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12/16/25 Flagler School Board Information Workshop

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001We'll call to order the December 16th 1 p.m. school board workshop. Let's stand for a moment of silence and the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Good morning. Okay, please be seated. We get roll call. >> Lauren Ramirez, present. Jamie Ro present. >> Christy Chong, >> Lakamore, >> and Mr. Furry will join us at 6 PM later tonight. Any Let's see. Let's move on to board member leazison updates. All right. All right. So, Belter Elementary, they continue to show strong family and community involvement through their PTO and sack activities, which was held last week at their campus. Recent fundraising successes through the family fall carnival. So, they

002raised nearly $3,900 and all of that will directly support the classrooms and our students at that campus. and Coin Wars, which they raised over $3,200, and that actually went towards the Christmas for Community Heroes, which was that shopping event that some board members participated in. Our superintendent, the school store, and holiday shop were well supported by families, and really just looking forward to the 5K and health fair coming up, spring dance, a lot of grade level activities, and still trying to build the SAC uh participation. So, I feel like next year it will um it will increase. So, we've been brainstorming a lot of ideas, but if anyone has more, just send them our way. Matanzis High School, they they have a huge strong support with their students and family engagement throughout several campus and

003activities this week. Uh and this month, they hosted their very first outdoor Grinch movie night. So, thanks to district for helping set up that huge movie theater setup. Uh breakfast with Santa. It was very well organized. Uh games, books, giveaways, pancakes, hot chocolate, Santa. So, thank you so much for all the support there and working really hard um academically. And um Matanzis, they continue to highlight their student opportunities. So, athletes, uh return of the dance program, which will actually be tomorrow or excuse me, December 18th, and uh several career focused learning experiences. And then our sheriff department, um they actually came and spoke with the criminal justice. So, thank you so much for that partnership. And SAC will be tomorrow at 6 p.m. So, if anyone is interested, we'd love to have you there. EPAC

004did not have a meeting this month, but just know that if you are a parent or family that has any type of student with any type of special needs, uh they work really great to collaborate and support families. They take ideas and make things happen with the district. So, Dr. Holidayiday is the one to reach out to for that. virtual teen hall we just had the other night. It was incredible. Our two school student school board members, they always lead that. And so this one was held by um Ava. She did amazing. It was budgeting, credit card taxes. Lots of middle school and high schoolers were there. So I highly encourage parents to, you know, if you can participate and get your student to register, they get uh lots of hours for that as well.

005Very student-led discussion and meaningful engagement. We have a focus on Flaggler Youth Coalition. They partner a lot with the virtual teen hall. So they have an event that is going to be Friday, December 9th, 19th, 6:00 to 8 at the Espanola Community Park in Benell. So families feel free to come and join the games and fun and of course our partnership with our pals for Florida Schoolboard Association. So, just a reminder, January 28th and 29th is the day in the legislature. Um, so board members, you know, if you're planning to attend, make sure let Ariel know. We will be focusing working with our representative Greco and Tom Leak to discuss some of our priorities right here in Flaggler County. And we're focusing a lot on secure rural schools program. So for those that aren't aware,

006Flaggler schools, we could potentially receive anywhere from 1.5 to$2.5 million right here in Flaggler County. So that's kind of what we're working towards and we're just working really hard behind the scenes for that. So fingers crossed. And then uh February 19th for all FSBA regional meeting from 1 to 4 in Putnham County. So if anyone is interested, schoolboard members, that is available and let Ariel know. And lastly with FSBA, we learned a lot about the governor's proposed budget. So you may have seen that in email on the news newspaper. So it is a proposed budget, but it includes $30.6 billion for Florida's K through2 public schools, including $16.6 billion in record state funding. My huge takeaway is potentially the $300 million for safe schools funding and $190 million for student mental health support. So hopefully

007that does go through. And then the small school district council consortium, I'm now part of that. So myself and Mr. Furry. So we attended um some of us at the Tampa uh in Tampa, our consortium meeting and we just kind of talked about legislative updates. So stay tuned for that. Lots of things going on. And that concludes my uh liaison updates. Thank you. >> Thanks. Yeah, it's certainly a busy time of year. Uh first uh just a shout out to Rimfire. They held an afterchool event uh holidays around the world which was delightful. They served food from all sorts of different cultures and shared different ways um different uh areas of the globe, celebrate their own holidays and recognized this time of year. So that was wonderful and we had numerous uh parents uh also

008FPC and Matanzis volunteers there and the uh rimfire chorus was adorable and sang several songs in different languages which was amazing. Uh I also attended the FTC uh advisory committee. So Flaggler Technical College and um they have uh developed in conjunction with other career and technical colleges in Florida their legislative uh platform. Um and uh they're looking primarily to amend the language in the Florida statute 10008.3A to include all graduates from Florida public high school. And those that complete a career certification program 450 hours or longer in length with satisfactory grades are considered post-secary and work ready basic skills exempt. Um and so uh that they have three other platform items. I won't go into those in detail, but that's one of the items that they're uh really uh working hard to progress. Uh we

009also have uh several updates uh from the legislative side. As a member of the uh legislative liaison piece, I've jotted down some notes to share with you all. Make sure I've got the right one up here. Um so as you may know that the governor has submitted uh his initial proposal for 2627 school year uh well legislative uh and fiscal year uh and so there uh in it I do commend the legislation in terms of increasing uh per student funding um which is always welcome and benefit beneficial, but caution that that includes uh the uh voucher. So, it's it's a little bit watered down and distilled across the different sectors uh of who needs to use that money. So, I'm hoping to see in greater detail how that's going to play out and how that

010um budget may be tweaked going forward. Um, in addition, uh, there's the property tax relief, uh, proposal, House Bill 209. uh obviously without a uh replacement for the millillage that the school districts receive. uh if that were to go through andor some mitigation uh in terms of how they implement the property tax relief. That could substantially impact a school district's ability in order to uh receive those state funds, which inevitably would uh cause us to have to seek local funds with different means. And uh so uh we'll keep an eye out for that. Uh additionally, there are several other uh items on the legislation that will uh be potentially uh have impact for us and I'll keep you all uh updated in terms of that. Um the other item is we part of the uh

011tobaccof free Florida. Mr. Finelli, Mr. Freeman uh attended. I was not able to make the November meeting, but I do have notes. Um, one of the initiatives that the group really wants to move forward on is uh creating a maximum distance that vendors who of tobacco and vaping products can u sell or build new establishments in terms of the distance from a public school. Uh and there were a couple of items related to um our involvement in terms of at each school there is a students against tobacco and there's uh typically a a school liaison uh we're trying to make sure we have that full participation and Mr. Finelli was uh going to make sure that we've got a contact a sponsor at each school. Um and then coming in January, FPC has a students

012against uh tobacco or SWAT um students working against tobacco, I believe is the acronym. Um and so they're very involved at FPC. I do enjoy seeing the students involved in those activities uh and and also taking an action uh towards those initiatives that we know really are are are uh healthy and the younger that we can keep students away from tobacco the better. Uh that's all like that. Great. I'll start with the Chamber of Commerce. Um last week, December 12th, they had a speed networking event. Uh this was held at Daytona State College campus. It was a great um chance to network with other local businesses. The chamber will also be holding a meet your neighbor at Sea Cruise this coming February with Royal Caribbean. That information is posted on their website for anyone interested.

013And the lead Flagler class will also be held this February. This is a diverse program that covers many programs that impact our community. So definitely something to check out. Um the Flaggler County Education Foundation on February 17th, Tuesday, they will have their Marty Gro ball and this will be held at Grand Haven. Okay. Lots of events for the Flaggler Auditorium. Let's see. This month they had their Navy they brought the Navy Southeast Band and over 2,000 free tickets were provided to the community. Um the chorus and band also had a holiday extravaganza on December 9th and the Bronx Wanderers brought a holiday show from Vegas. Um and our students PC and Matanis also got to be a part of that and I hear that they um did really amazing and um so great job to

014them. And then December 17th will be Christmas in Kani. Tickets are $5 for children under 12. Let's see. You can look forward to Irish traditions during the holidays with a Broadway style show coming up. coming up in January. They have several events also um posted on their website. Okay. For Banell Elementary, last Friday they had their winter festival which included food trucks, hot chocolate, DJ games, snow machine. Uh this week is holiday spirit week for them and they are also having lots of capturing kids hearts awards for positive behavior. So it's nice to see that. And for Wadssworth, December 9th, they had their arts night which included an art walk, um, gallery exhibition, young Arthurs, poetry, music work, workshops, crafts, and STEM activities. And this week they will also have every day will be holiday

015dressup day. And lastly, Flaggler Historical Society, they had some events, some Christmas events, which included their holiday openhouse potluck and their Christmas charity tea event. Okay, that's it for me. All right, moving on. Do we have any changes or additions to the agenda? >> We do not. >> Do we have any public comments? >> We do not. >> We move on to 6.01 school start times. Good afternoon board chair superintendent Moore. All right. So we are uh coming back before you with uh results from our stakeholder survey on school start times. Um as you may remember just some of the background on House Bill 733 is what required middle schools to start no earlier than uh 8 o'clock and high schools to start no earlier than 8:30. And then it was amended by Senate bill.

016Um so the the rule currently reflects that um schools are able to make a local decision and submit a report to the Department of Education by June 1st um if they are keeping with their current start times or not u moving forward with changing them. Uh one of the requirements of that report is that we communicate uh the benefits of later start times with our uh community and families um and gather public input. And so we are doing that through the stakeholder survey and then offering um time for our stakeholders to um give public comment. Um we had the uh survey publish um for the past month and we've had about 2,000 responses which I think is >> pretty good representation. Um and so you can see the large majority of those responses were from

017parents and guardians. um 25% of those respondents are uh Flaggler schools employees and then 46% of those employee respondents are also parents. So very large parent voice um that we uh received with the stakeholder survey and Louise is going to walk you through some of the results. So, we asked we added this question based on our conversation at the last meeting about how people would feel about students from different grade bands riding together on the same buses, which used to be part of our model before we went to having planning back in the day. Um, when we originally had students sharing buses, we were on a two-tier hybrid system, which meant that we had elementary was solely riding by themselves, but our middle and high school, there were some shared routes between them. So they

018might drop students off at Indian Trails and then continue the route forward with the students going to Matanzis or the Buddy Taylor and FPC route as well. So we add added this question and this question is probably the one that we had the most decisive response on when you go through the rest of the data and you were able to see that you know both employees and parents, guardians alike had over 40% preference that students ride only with others in their grade band. And then we further asked the question about if they would only support it for certain grade combinations because the reality is if we are to proceed with exploring changing school start times, we would likely have to have elementary riding with high school or elementary riding with middle school in order to

019accommodate the new school start times and go back to a two-tier hybrid system. So when you look at those two collectively, it looks we have about um 70% of employees are against having a combined route if it were to be elementary with high school or anything other than um 68 with 912 realistically and 67 or 68% of parents and guardians. So again, this was probably the most decisive piece of data that we're going to look at today. The next set of questions we asked parents um and employees and students what their feelings were about like if they agree neutral disagree or does not apply to them about whether or not they thought it'd be disruptive for dropping off students change uh disruptive to extracurriculars um cause complications for transportation um additional costs for family or

020a change in positions for our employees. And just by looking at the data, you can see that for most of these, with the exception of the changing jobs, people agree that this would the employees agree that it would be disruptive for drop pickup and drop off, disruptive for extracurric extracurricular activities, and disruptive um for transportation, and may uh cause families to incur additional costs for before and after school care. Um there were some free responses that also addressed concerns about what that might look like because currently some parents and we'll get to that when we get to the parent survey portion. Um but some parents with their current position and the start times of their of the school at which their child attends doesn't require for them to have after school or before school care,

021but a change in start times would certainly drive that. Um, we had we didn't have as many people um say that a change in start times may cause them to change schools or jobs because, you know, they're their work time may not be that far off because their contracted time doesn't necessarily align with what the school student start times are. Um, when we go to the stakeholder group for the parents and guardians, again, very similar questions and there were some additional ones. Uh the last one I'd like to point out is that a change in start times may cause you to consider other educational options for your students. And we had roughly 20% of respondents say that they agree with that statement that a change in start times may cause them to have to explore

022additional options. Um the rest of the time it seemed that parents really did feel parents and guardians did feel that a change in start times might allow for their child to get additional sleep on school nights. However, when we get to the student feedback, they did not agree with that statement. the students themselves seemed overwhelming not to agree with that. So, it almost seems like they're they're going to stay up no matter what. Um or they're going to sleep in no matter what. So, uh again, this the data was ambiguous at best that we got back. It doesn't seem that people are overly jumping to make this great change or or wholeheartedly against it. Um, so if we jump to the student stakeholder feedback, I do want to point out that the last uh bar

023graph should actually be addressing extracurricular activities. My apologies. Uh, when we transfer the slides over, there was a pasting issue. So my apologies, that third one is supposed to be addressing extracurriculars like work, sports, um, and all of those areas. But again, >> oh, I see. So instead of home life twice for student stakeholders. Okay, thank you. >> Absolutely. Sorry about that. Um so again we're seeing that you know 43% of students when they were addressing if that this will allow them to get enough sleep on school nights they were neutral on it. Um and the amount that agreed the a similar amount disagreed. So it was kind of a wash there. Um they don't really feel like it would be disrupt a change would be disruptive to their home life and they don't really

024feel it'd be disruptive to um their extracurriculars. So the data again, the biggest piece of data that I think gave us the most overwhelming response was related to transportation. >> And so I think if if we had to proceed and continue with these are the options of start times, I think the data may be different because when people saw what the changes could potentially be, it might cause them to think that there would be disruptions that we haven't captured with the not knowing what those times might be. We did uh analyze uh the open-ended comments that um our stakeholders responded to. Um and you can see up here, you know, kind of what we found. Some folks said that there would be a conflict with their work schedule, particularly in the morning. um high school

025students who have after school jobs or participate in extracurricular activities. That was um noted as an impact uh more for the parents and employees than the students said. Um some uh said that the middle school start time is too early and even suggested swapping um middle and high school. Um there were some concerns about the elementary start time and then looking at child care. Um so the early mornings for elementary but then looking at what they would do in the afternoon in terms of child care. Um and then there were a few uh folks that that again how I recommend or how I mentioned uh swapping start times for middle and high school. Um there were certainly some comments about bus overcrowding and safety of mixing the grade levels on buses which we saw reflected

026in the earlier data. Um so you know at at this point um we we've brought this back to you. Um, you know, our our plan really is based on this data to continue with um, you know, preparing that report for the Department of Education and unless uh, we we hear otherwise. Um, so if there are any questions, we're happy to entertain those. >> We've always thought about the transportation and start times really around the grade bands. I wonder if we analyzed it for feeder schools instead, which would almost make it easier for families because if all their students across multiple grade bands were on the same schedule, uh for example, let's say Matanzis, uh Indian Trails, and uh uh Belter, what if they were on, you know, an A schedule starting at 8 a.m. And

027then FPC, Buddy Taylor and the now Old Kings, for example, whatever those feeder schools are were on, you know, the later schedule or what, whichever. But that way all of their children from elementary, middle, and high are all on the same schedule. And then I'm wondering if it would allow us to reduce uh and not have that third transportation route that is pushing us to require that middle school start time of being so early. So years ago, we did have the elementaryaries, we had three different sets of start times across the five schools, and it was it was closely aligned to the feeder patterns that like certain schools that were on the same feeder pattern, they actually had that differentiated time for the elementary level, but our middles and highs have always had the same

028start and end times. Um, we can certainly take that back to transportation to ask them, but I think one of the issues is we don't have Indian Belair Indian Trails. Matanis is a pure feeder pattern. Um, but we do have some of our elementary schools that will eventually feed it to into both. So, we would almost go back to having >> elementary schools have all different start times depending. Is that kind of the proposal or would it be to perhaps have middle schools at different times and high schools at different times? I I'm I'm thinking that maybe there is a uh emerging of eventually if we've got to uh tweak enrollments at certain schools that we think about or we do the research now to determine if we created clear feeder patterns, would it allow

029us to mix the start times for the mixed uh grade bands, which would ease things for parents. It's something that I've heard some other districts do, which actually was some feedback from the community in those districts. I think St. John's was one. Um, in order to try to retain more uh students in their schools as opposed to going to maybe a charter school that had a more ideal start time where they could have all their children, you know, in a particular um schedule. Wouldn't they be on the same bus though then if that >> not I would like to get some insight on to see what those numbers would look like to traditionally two elementary kids ride uh the buses more frequently than let's say high school who there's a lot of driving. So to

030me really it's the elementary to middle and uh if if we would be okay with middle and high that's possibly I think something that could potentially work and make things easier for families and when getting that information um we would need to get have um transportation identify what that would look like for number of routes because um just sitting thinking of it right now in our time um supporting transportation, I think it will cause us to have to add some additional routes, but we can definitely do that research to find out what that will look like um additional um routes. And I I do appreciate that you added that question, the transportation one, just because when I was reviewing it, I I mean, and then, you know, when you think about it as a parent,

031you know, or a child, you know, so I think that question was really great to add. So, thank you because I think it just kind of just shows just a little bit of like what the parents are thinking, you know, the guardians. And I do want to add I I truly believe in the science of more sleep, but I also just researching and talking with parents and our, you know, families and even teachers, but children too, talking to them, the way uh Flaggler County is set up at least now like our infrastructure and then the safety it, you know, you have to think of safety is always always going to be number one and science is there. I I love it. Sleep is great. I love sleep. I think everyone does, but I feel that

032our infrastructure is it may not be built for it, at least not yet. So, I like that you guys did all of this research because I think it helps from the outside to kind of like see like could it happen, could it not, but are we built for this? Like we're not like other counties. U we're different, but um I don't know. I really like this data that you pulled up. So, thank you. >> Thank you. And I appreciate we we had a large number of respondents. I'm glad that we've heard from >> a lot. >> I do see though it seems that the employees versus parents and guardians, there's a little bit of a split there in terms of their feelings. So, um, which I can understand. Changing your personal schedule is always difficult.

033Um, >> yeah. >> And I think to parents and teachers and children, it's not the end. like if you have more information to add, you can always email uh email your information like if you missed this this uh email that was sent out to put your input in. But definitely uh I do appreciate that we got had a lot of input. I think it's um as we look at this acknowledging the science and and you know all of us you know valuing what it is that the science says also looking at our ability to to do it um and not cause a disruption to our community. which is why the legislators went back and said, uh, here's what the science says and we need to make sure we inform families of what the science says,

034but also as a community, we have to identify what is possible for us um as far as get being able to get those schedules aligned and our community. This is not a new discussion to our community. Uh so um our our community they've voiced over the years that there is not a desire at this time to make the swap to have elementary starting earlier. We do often uh get back from families around the middle school time. Um, however, when we really look at it across some of the changes that would need to be made in order to accommodate a a swap in middle school, I don't think that the pros um really outweigh the cons when you survey the the stakeholders. And we've seen that over over the last few years in their responses. >>

035Any other comments? Thank you both for your hard work on this and I'm glad we got a lot of responses on this. >> So at this time, what what are the next steps? Um Dr. O'Brien, >> so um this this was our next step to review that stakeholder feedback and uh there were some updates there during the rule making on what is included in the required report. Um but based on based on the feedback that we got, we're planning to prepare uh the report for the Department of Education at this point >> and then we'll follow up with the board with the information around the transit the transportation um >> data. Perfect. >> Thank you Ryan and then Dr. Sing for 6.02 02 special calendar. >> Good afternoon, chair, board, superintendent. >> Nice to see

036you again. We are returning today to answer questions from last week. And if you have any additional questions for us ahead of the um decision tonight, we are more than hopefully ready to answer those questions. Um the the one main question that came up last week was what does um professional learning look like for surrounding districts? Um we did send some more specific information, but to answer for the public, we are um pretty comparable to surrounding districts with us um having 24 hours total a year of called in um professional learning time on those four days. um with the other surrounding counties being like 19 required, 19 possible, 28 required. Um and then uh even some other counties with just six required hours, but then based on uh schools different um hours for what that

037looks like as well. A lot of um the surrounding counties use their early release days for professional learning communities, which certainly have professional learning embedded in them, but they are not a district initiated um professional learning time. They're more of a teacher-led time. >> Well, it depends on how it's structured. uh you know so there I've seen where other districts even here uh that there are required elements for those PLC meetings. I guess uh with St. John's here they they've spelled out specifically their PL days. When we look at what's provided from us you've rolled in pre-planning which not all of those days can be used for PL right I think it's even in the contract. Yep. >> Right. So, um, two, so two of those are dedicated to PL >> and then two additional

038days throughout the school year. >> And then we have the separate teacher introduction. Yes. >> And then the weekly PLC's. But that's what is difficult because to do those PLC's, we're taking away the teachers planning. And I know we say, well, you're planning with your group, but there's it's still not allowing you to return those emails, um, return the phone calls for parents, grade, all of that. And so that's where I'm concerned and would like to be able to provide more space for that especially when we continue to have um out of more and more out of field individuals. Um and if we really want to move the needle on many of our school improvement plans, it comes down to um professional learning and uh instruction. So, uh I would like us to see next

039year entertain or explore the ability of how do we find and carve out that time uh separate from the teachers required uh planning time >> for clarification next year as in >> right because we can't 27 28 correct okay yes >> um I think it it will be very important for us to get common language to when we we identify we're going to do some type of early release. Um what will be the purpose of that time? Is that time professional learning? Is that time professional learning communities? is that time time for um teacher work like what that looks like and be very much common language across um so that when someone hears we're doing an early release of any sort for professional learning they can think of it from the lens of you know

040it's going to have the elements of professional learning in it be it it's going to be led by the school by a teacher whomever it's going to be led by or is the purpose of it to be professional learning community which is going to be more so center around the four questions and preparation for what instruction looks like in their their classroom in the near future. >> I think uh that is something I would appreciate insight from teaching and learning in terms of what's working. So those schools or grades or teachers that are um really putting that uh PLC community uh to work in its best practice if those if those strategies are working you know then we can include that if we feel like we have uh school specific PL that you know needs

041to be met for those areas or even break them up. These teachers are newer teachers. we need them to attend this kind of pee. Um I think also around that is expectations for not using it to schedule your half day or whatever it may be. I don't want to see an increase of absences uh around that. But I do feel um to me what we're trying to do is provide that focused PL time uh increase the ability to preserve the planning time um and set some expectations though if we're going to do this we can't it can't be a loss of um instructional time when teachers are going to maybe leave early right they've got to be there and participating in it. >> And I think also like preserving what the number our instructional um

042time that we currently have. So what is our our current instructional minutes for the school year? How do we do that and add in some form of early release into that? Defining what that time will look like and what the flexibility will be in that. Um, and I think that if we're saying we are considering this because of the amount of um, individuals that are working that are not coming from a teacher preparation program, then we may need to get their voice as well and say, you know, what is it that you need if we were to consider this time? Um, so that they have an opportunity to express the needs that they have. And and that's what I was going to ask in request potentially. I think it's important to hear from the teachers

043at the schools. So just like we just did a stakeholder survey for transportation and changing school times, the teachers need to express what they need and want because I know a lot of people in here have been in the classroom, but you're not in the classroom now, right? So let's see what will work for them. And then also I wanted to share and I know I sent in to email but um a lot of districts they do something similar. So whether it's an hour release on Mondays early um or half day you know so let's see what might work or could work and maybe it won't work but one one district said you know pros for having an hour release and it's strategic every Monday teachers get real meaningful time to plan and meet and

044problem solve. So obviously that's how their district set it up. Better instructional alignment across all grade levels. Uh less burnout since professional development isn't always after hours. Uh predictable for families. So it's very consistent. So all the families know on Monday. This is what happens. They're not going to be taking retakes for tests or getting tutoring on that specific time frame. And it's just everyone knows. They did, you know, there's cons for everything. So child care for some could be a concern. Um, so that would be something stakeholders, you know, if it's an hour, you know, an hour may not be too bad. Um, or half day, maybe that's better. Who knows? Uh, if professional development isn't well organized, then it's wasted. So, we obviously would want to make sure it's completely organized. And you

045know, I think just um like what Miss Moore said, like see what our teachers what will help them because at the end of the day, it's if there's something we're not doing or doing right, we want to continue it. But I think changing it now because you guys worked really really hard on that calendar. And um I feel like it's a great idea for potentially the next calendar year and then only just move forward because I know right now it looks great and I don't I didn't have any other feedback good or bad from parents or families. So but I think looking into it for the future >> also go ahead. >> Sorry. uh taking a look at schools that did implement um school districts that did implement uh maybe an earlier release, what changes

046occurred in their data, right? Did this have the intended effect? So, is there a school district that has done this for maybe three years? Give to, you know, a little time to breathe. And what does that what do the outcomes look like um compared to prior uh the start of the early release? >> Um if we do some early release days, don't we have to make up that time somewhere else? >> We would need to look at our instructional minutes >> as well as our our instructional and our contractual minutes. I think my only concern because I know Milia does this is just the interruption in the normal day like oh it's Wednesday I got I gota get my child earlier you know um so just something to think about for parents as you were

047saying work and those kind of things >> and I'm I'm glad that Miss Fer brought up the um contra the contract because right now we're focused we're thinking about the benefits that it could bring to our instructional staff but we also have to look at the support staff as well. What does this look like for support staff? Does this now mean that our transportation department and our pair professionals are going to reduce by one hour each week? Are we going to have those individuals working but not with student contact? So, it's more than just looking at the benefits from the instructional piece of it. We also have to look at that the support side because there are um staff members that we have that are only present when students are present. And so what does

048that look like for them over um the course of the the year as well? And uh in my mind those um support facilitators paras uh they're they're asking for more training. Even the transportation department is asking for training in ter terms of student management. I mean, if you have to take the kids to school, you have to take them back. Uh so I don't see how the bus route time would change. Um but you know, we're hearing more and more that there's a need for training even outside of the traditional teacher role. So this is a way that could benefit many many of those folks. >> And absolutely and that's what I'm saying. We cannot think about it just from the lens of the teacher. that's in the classroom because we have to look at

049it from the lens of the the entire organization and what that will um what impact that will have on the entire organization. >> Looking forward, I do have a shell of the 2728 um calendar prepared so that we can begin these conversations um fairly shortly so we can get all of this >> figured out. Any other questions? Thank you. >> Thank you. >> The um 2627 instructional calendar is coming before you tonight for we are requesting approval for um the 2627 instructional calendar that is presented. >> Okay. 12.01. Do we have any public comments? >> No, we do not. >> 13.01 01 board member requests. >> Nothing new for me. >> Okay, we'll move on to closing comments. >> Yep. I just want to thank everyone, especially with the calendar. I know that had to

050have been challenging. So, thank you and for listening. And then the school teams, all the work for supporting our campuses, especially this last month, all the the fun free activities or affordable ones at all of our campuses. And we'll see you all tonight. So, thank you so much. >> Yeah, just reserve my comments for this evening. >> Thank you. We will see you at 6 p.m. >> We will see you at 6 pm. Happy 84th. Day is golden. All right. This meeting is adjourned.

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