08/12/25 - Flagler School Board Agenda Workshop

001Good afternoon. We now call to order the Tuesday, August 12th, 2025, 3M school board workshop. Uh please rise uh for a moment of silence followed by the pledge of allegiance and the national anthem. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [Music] fresh stripes and bright stars through [Music] [Applause] the rock. [Applause] [Music] still [Music] [Applause] for You [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] may be seated. Thank you. >> Okay, so we'll move on to roll call. >> Lauren RmIrez, uh, present. >> Jamie Rodie, present. Uh Christy Chon present. >> Will Furry present. >> L Shakamura. Okay. >> And uh we will now um move down

002to um additions uh or changes to the agenda. Do we have any today? >> Yes, please. Um there was a an item that was added um 11.01 um to the agenda which is a job description. Um I do also ask that we um do a time certain for two items. Um item 10.02 first um after public comment followed by 12.01 um followed by that through your normal um printed agenda. So 10.02 after public comment followed by 10 12.01 01 and then the remainder of the um printed agenda. >> Okay. So, what did you want to do with 11.01? >> No, I I was just bringing the attention as a request that any um changes that were made. So, that was um added after we went live on Tuesday um on last Tuesday. >> So, that

003will just remain on normal. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. So, I'd like a motion to approve the uh agenda as modified. >> Move to approve. >> I have a motion by Miss Ruddy. >> Second by Miss Chan. >> Uh all in favor? >> I opposed. Hearing none, we'll move forward with today's agenda. Um so that brings us to public comment. Do we have anybody for public comment today? Okay, seeing none. No. Okay. So, uh we will close public comment and move to agenda item 10.02, life safety, uh casualty inspection with Mr. B. Welcome. >> Good afternoon, school board members, chair furry, and superintendent Moore. Um I come for you this afternoon um to inform you that we have completed all of our annual life safety inspections. Um as you're aware each year we partner with

004the city of Palm Coast Fire Department and Flagler County Emergency Services uh to conduct these inspections at each of our sites. Um all deficiencies that were notated have been corrected. So, it looks like there was quite a few atel. >> Yeah, there were um significant more at Banel this year than in years past and at um any of our other sites. Um the vast majority of those deficiencies were uh illuminations um not were were or failure for the illuminations on exit signs and emergency lights. Uh typically we're those are caught during monthly inspections of our plant services team. Um due to being short staff and change of staffed those regular regularly scheduled um maintenance inspections weren't completed. Um, that's something that we we understand is unacceptable and and we've addressed internally and and made adjustments

005to our SOP moving forward to make sure it doesn't happen. >> Okay. Good. Any other comments or questions on this report? >> So, that's separate from the fact that it was summer. you're saying that it was a staffing issue when uh so as part of that SOP when uh some some school is unmanned for those regular reviews that you'll have another team member pick that up if so how's that possible to do too within the same time period >> so the inspections start in the spring um but typically and I'll let Mr. Bush speak to how those are inspected. Um, but we have we have regularly scheduled internal inspections to make sure everything's working. That way we're not waiting for an official inspection to catch any deficiencies. >> And good afternoon. Um, we generally have

006a maintenance person at each facility. The high schools usually have two. And unfortunately, we had uh the person that was at Benell um he injured himself and he was out for almost a year. than the person that we pulled to put there. Shortly after that, he injured himself and he was out several months and then there was some just some lacks in that and we fell short um at Vendel and not keeping up with the other schools in that school as far as the in the monthly inspections. But we do a monthly inspection through um our master library that comes out and those are just not being done which we correct that internally. And so what was the what's the correction? Like uh my my question is if you have people out, how are we

007still getting this work done without putting it on another person? Is it being absorbed by the administrative staff of Benell? Is that something within their uh >> No, ma'am. That's on us whether we have to pull somebody from our grounds crew or from HVAC and depending on what it is and what the need and what the person Okay. what they can what they can do within our department. >> Okay. >> So, these reports that that are done regularly, they are they just logged and put in or are the are they supposed to be reported up to somewhere else? Because what what I'm seeing here is the reports weren't were done even if they were done uh when no there was no oversight in between whether they were done or not done. Right. So in in

008terms of in terms of the the exit signs and the emergency lights, they'll give out warnings when they're when the battery is about to go dead or something. So when we check those each month, we say, "Hey, the the lights aren't shining as bright." That that's an indicator that, you know, something needs address within that. So that's the purpose of the monthly inspections, not to wait till it fails. And it's, you know, it's to catch them as they're as they're wearing down so we can replace things as needed. >> But I think Mr. refer's point is if the individuals at that school are supposed to do those monthly uh inspections and they're not done because of certain circumstances, aren't there supposed to be a report or a paper trail that is then submitted to like

009a another supervisor and did that supervisor not notice that these reports were not being filled in in a timely manner? It would be the work order system, the work orders that come out and know they were not that was part of >> Does it have like an alert system? Because I imagine that's part of the problem, right? Otherwise, you'd have to actively go in there and look, did it get filed? >> Correct. Because they they get automatically assigned to the staff. Um, and in this case when it went through a couple different there was a lax in who it was going to and the supervisor needed to look at that and realize that they were sitting with the people that were out and didn't catch that they weren't being done until part of the inspection

010was done and we realized that they weren't being done at that particular school. >> Okay. >> Is that person responsible still working or have they been caught on leave? the both of the gentlemen that had been injured, they are currently back. One is still on limited duty, the other one is not. >> I think what we're I think what we're looking at here is that we there should be some sort of oversight in the in the middle. So, we're not waiting until this is an annual inspection. what we're doing. Yes, this is >> so essentially over that period of time there were 60 uh well I don't know how many of those were reflective of the lights but whatever the deficiencies were >> uh that accumulated. So I think we need to have some um

011procedure in there where that we have some sort of quarterly at least oversight or or even a midyear uh review of of of these safety items so that uh they're not stacking up all over the year. But that process is now in place. Prior to it was not. So the these um um they were going into an inbox per se into an inbox that was not being overseen by anyone above that level, but they've since addressed that once they realized what the issue was so that we're not in this position at any of our schools again. >> Okay. Are any of these fire extinguishers or is this was this all internal like lights? >> No, the total numbers you're seeing are for various reasons. The issues at at Banell specifically were the vast majority of

012those were for uh illuminations on on either the exit signs or the emergency lights. Um there are there are at times fire extinguishers that maybe um had to be updated. Um, and then there's some that are school related. Um, as far as managerial things as maybe the emergency exits were blocked with furniture, um, or there wasn't a clear a 12-in clearance from shelving to to ceiling tiles and things like that. >> That's a big one. >> Typically, when we get these inspections, what I do is um, Corey and I will have a discussion. What is a school-based, you know, issue that needs to be addressed? And then I'll work with schools to make sure, hey, we got to get with this teacher about furniture and whatnot. And then Corey will get with his team with

013what's a plant services issue. >> Do we have Oh, sorry. When do we have a company that checks the fire extinguishers, the tags that's like implemented and they come um I just want to make sure because those are things like that should always be checked and they're, you know, they punch them. I'm just wondering is that included in this type of summary report or is that a separate report and do we know I don't know if that's >> so part of our safety inspections that is captured in this? I'll let Corey speak to the company that comes and and >> so yes, we we do internally we do monthly inspections just like go around and make sure that it's in the green and that the tag is current. And then annually we have a company

014that comes in because they have to do their checks of what the um fire extinguisher when they reach five years and there's a different test that they have to do and turn them upside down and knock them and do things and then that's where you get the new tag. So fire extinguishers are not on this report. That's a whole separate category. >> No, it'd be captured in this report. >> If it if it say there was one that was not tagged properly, it was missed, it would it would end up on this report. Yes, ma'am. >> Do you feel the software system that you're using to log these and be able to alert you um to the regular reporting and upkeep is sufficient? Are you feeling like it it's working for you or um is

015there a possibility that there's software that would be a little bit more um sophisticated that would have maybe alerted folks that hey it's been 3 months since there's been an inspection report on this. >> Um I I I feel that master library currently it it wasn't a master library issue. It was more of a personnel issue with having a new supervisor, two people getting hurt, and then there was just some lacks of that that happening at that particular school cuz when we saw obviously you're looking at the numbers, you're like, that's great. And you see Benell, you're like, what happened? >> Yeah. Well, that's my concern is like the lacks and >> paying somebody to do a job because lights may not seem like a big deal. They could be devastating. >> Yeah. I mean,

016it's like thinkability. there was no emergency that happened prior because had there been and all these deficiencies in there then there would be a big price to pay at many levels. >> Um so we just got to make sure >> these new controls are going to take care of this problem. >> Yes sir. >> Then we have new leadership with risk and safety. So I'm sure like going forward things are can't go back in time but it looks like >> all right. Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay. So, we're going to move on now to uh 12.01 2025 legislative platform. We have uh Mr. Sarah and um is uh >> John's online. >> John Sarah online as well. >> Um we did print a copy for um you in the event that you needed that

017um Welcome. >> Thank you. >> So, quickly just to outline the process we're looking to implement. We're going to workshop this today. It's just a pure discussion. We've got two weeks then that we can work um one-on-one with me or with the superintendent to make sure that items you want to have considered or changed are considered. We intend to bring a a draft in two weeks to the workshop as a recommended draft. And if there are items that are desired by board members that aren't in the draft that's recommended, we'll have drafted motions where the language will be set up the way you want it individually and we'll have the discussion whether the board wants to include or not include the specific item. And so I need you to work with me over the course

018of the next two weeks to get that organized so that that workshop will be productive and and and efficient for you. Our intention then is to adopt at that same date. And the reason that's our intention is because the joint platform that the county included us in last year for the first time, their deadlines are essentially the 1st of September if we want to be included in that. If we're not ready to adopt, then we'll miss that deadline and that's okay. But the reason we're moving on this timeline is because we would like to be in that as ideal. It's more important that you guys that you are 100% in line with your own platform than it is that we make that deadline. But we would like to make that deadline if possible. So, um

019I'm going to review this. These are issues that um I've been aware of from my work, things that we collected from the cabinet or items that were from last year. My suggestion to you is that while we would adopt all of the items, both the local ones and the ones that are statewide issues, the ones that would get printed as your platform would only be the local issues. and the statewide issues, we would make sure that they were submitted either by your liaison to FSBA or by me or or however that they would get submitted appropriately on that timeline to get included in that platform. Um, if there is a statewide priority that you want included in your local platform, that can be done. But it's my recommendation that you do that sparingly, that if

020it's a statewide issue, that we push it to the to the FSBA platform and your lobbyists will know that this is still something that's important to you and we will help FSBA to to get these things addressed if possible. The legislature doesn't want each local board to have a dozen different priorities. They want you to have one or two >> in this plat in this draft. The first thing >> I go to the draft. I I just want to make sure to just be very clear um for the sake of the public when we're saying um for the board members to work with us individually. It is solely from the lens of us to be able to get your individual desires to be captured and then any addition any discussion will be the discussion that

021will be had at the table. So, I just want to make sure I'm very clear. Um, just for the public, what we will be doing is capturing anything individually a board member that we don't capture today. Anything individually a board member wants us to add onto the draft so that we can have a discussion with every board member having items represented if that if that is the desire um of that member. >> Correct. So in this draft, the rural renaissance proposal that the Senate President had last year has great opportunity for Flaggler schools. If it one of the educational proposals was that there would be a grant program for the 40 districts that are members of regional educational consortia and Flaggler is a member of NEC. And if that part of the proposal is adopted,

022it would be worth between 1 and a.5 and 2 and a/4 million for the district. And while that is a grant that you have to spend on one of about eight different priority areas, many of those priority areas are things like improving student performance on the state accountability system tests or increasing the number of advanced courses that are completed or career and technical education things that are completed. I would suggest to you that the that the items are so broad that in essence it allows you to address some one or two or more of your actual priorities um in a flexible manner. And so that that's a huge opportunity. It's almost as good as a local project which would only be a single year. The rural renaissance is intended in the to be uh recurring

023dollars. Now, it was also intended to be passed last year, and we thought it would be funded for at least three. It's not clear whether since it didn't happen last year, it will only get funded for two years or or more. But it's still two years of a significant amount of funding uh more than we would likely be able to get from a local project. And if we ask for a local project, would have to come up with half of the money out of your budget anyway. So, that's one of the items that I believe is a clean win for this board and for the students and citizens and taxpayers of Flagrook County and an opportunity to bring state dollars home, so to speak. Um, and that is certainly something that I think is a

024clean win. The second item that's in the draft is carry forward of um an item that was in the proposal last year that was addressed partially in the new issue about co-locating um schools of hope charter schools that would be actually in uh one of our schools and recognizing that prek within that formula that those students are really in those seats and that those those schools aren't mostly empty when these VPK students really are there. Um, but this is really about the funding formulas or really the sharing formulas for sharing local tax dollars with charters and a request that all of the students that the district served get recognized in those formulas. it would make about a 2% difference in how much you would share from the various tax sources that um the the 1.5

025mills and the half penny uh make about a 2% difference in how much you would retain and how much you would share to recognize all of your students as counting. Um, that's a carry forward from an item you adopted last year and I I suggest that's something that we probably still would be a clean win uh if it was adopted. The third is a placeholder for a local project. And I've I've talked with most of you at this point individually and I also was able to meet with the cabinet last week. And while I have a placeholder and if you have a suggestion that you want considered, we'll certainly listen to it. But I'd almost suggest to you that we focus on the rural Renaissance as though that were our local project because that is

026of the size that um we would it's probably more than we would ask for anyway and we don't have to come up with the local match and so we end up with two local issues plus whatever items you propose. The other items that are on here are the statewide issues and I again I recommend that we adopt them but they won't appear on your platform. We will submit them to FSBA. Um the first is about the way public schools are funded. And since House Bill One passed two years ago, the vouchers are actually funded slightly higher than what the district is funding. And the proposal is simply fund us the same way. So you create the formula, you run the formula, and either our students get the average funding if they're regular ed or they

027get the actual funding if they're ESSE because that's what they would get if they took the voucher. It would mean about two or three percent more for the traditional public schools before the vouchers got an increase, which would mean if they want the vouchers to increase by 2% next year, they'd have to increase the funding for the tradition traditional public schools by more like five. And there's no good explanation why a regular ed student that takes a voucher gets more money than they generate in the public schools. and the public schools even has to spend money on things that the voucher doesn't have to like transportation and all kinds of instructional materials and all kinds of other things that the voucher doesn't even have to do. So there's no reason why the traditional public schools

028should get deleted. Um so that's that's that item. And then um item number five is also statewide. It also deals with the vouchers. Since House Bill one passed, the decision was made to fund the vouchers above the line. All that means is that the vouchers appear in what the district's total potential is, both for what the current year's budget is and what the next year's budget is proposed. And in that way, it hides what's really happening with the district's budget. and the legislature could very easily move the vouchers below the line and have a policy on what they're funding each individual district at which would show enrollment trends and other things that are going on. There are legislators that don't actually didn't know that their districts were getting less money year-over-year. That's not the case

029for us, but there were districts that received significantly less money year-over-year because of declining enrollment. And this would make it transparent to the public and transparent even for the legislators that are making this policy that they're adopting this policy and that they own it. >> Last year, the governor supported that, the commissioner supported it, the state board of education supported it, the senate supported it, and it still didn't happen. So it's not we we are still swimming up a stream, but the governor included funding the vouchers below the line in his proposed budget. So this is not this should not be offensive to anyone except for maybe the house, but shouldn't be offensive. >> It's really just a matter of transparency. >> Matter of transparency. >> It's where it's being reported. It's the same. It's

030going to work out the same. >> The vouchers would still get the same exact amount of money that they get now. They just get pulled down at the bottom. And you don't have to have last year's FEFP and this year's FEFP to know what their policy is for a district and do some adding and subtracting on each in order to figure that out. It would be laid out in black and white by the legislature what their funding policy is for the districts. The item six is an item it's it's not even really legislative. It's really administrative. AA the law says that that the state is supposed to make school Medicaid reimbursement as easy and efficient as possible. That we are supposed to get the most money back from the federal government that we can. But

031AA is still using a fee schedule that was created in 2000. It's a 25y old schedule. We are collecting something in the neighborhood of uh $130 million and we believe we should be collecting more like $330 million. It's $200 million a year that we've been missing for the last several years. AA is in the process of updating this for July 1 of 2026. If they do it earlier, we can start collecting the money earlier. It's about $15 million statewide that's being left on the table. Um, and this money, the money for the health care and mental health services are already provided. The districts fund those upfront and get reimbursed for what's supposed to be 55% of the of that cost is the federal share. So, when the money comes back, it actually goes into your

032general fund. This is actually instructional dollars that we're spending on health care and we should be getting the money back from the federal government to to refund our instructional services. So, um this is an item that it it recently got attention in the um St. Pete Times um and some other papers picked up on it as well. And then uh finally, I I'm sure you're all aware that in the final FEFP payment of the year, there was a proration of $47 million. Um and the impact uh to Flaggler schools was about a h 100,000. Um this happened with with no warning. the fourth calculation that normally comes out on the 1 of April. Um I'm still not aware of it having been published at this point. Um um we the state has a student reserve.

033Apparently they they decided that this couldn't substitute for this problem, but a budget amendment could be adopted by the legislative budget commission and they could address that that loss. The irony is that the wealthy districts had already received all their state funding. So they didn't get a proration and the vouchers, their funding had already been paid out as well. So the only ones that lost were the traditional school districts and the ones that rely more on state funding than they do on local funds. Those are the items that we brought forward for the draft. And having had some conversations with members individually, I had two different members that talked about trying to have um some kind of an incentive fund for recruiting or retaining teachers. And I will be working with the with the cabinet

034and the superintendent to see if we can operationalize that into an idea whether that becomes a local priority or something that we submit to the state platform. um some of the that you can you have the authority to do. It's about having the money to do it with and if the state provided a 5% increase um then you would be able to do some of those things whether you you can address any part of the salary schedule that you want through your labor relations. there's a there is a requirement that we cannot increase uh salary for using longevity uh without also increasing for those with performance pay. And so what happens is that means you're giving it to everybody anyway when the first uh you know starting teachers have had substantive salary changes over the

035past five years, right? whereas those working in 10 years and longer have not. So that's the proposal is, you know, for us, a school district like Flaggler where um our neighboring counties are now paying um more, especially if you count what our health care premiums cost. We're being greatly affected by not being able to have the local um discretion and control to adjust for those economics within our salary schedule. >> Um and so we we're we'll talk about trying to operationalize this idea and and you I I now understand a little more about what what your proposal was. Um um so I appreciate that. I I just >> sure it clicked a little bit where where your where where your rub is. >> Um I intend to bring something back in that regard. Whether it

036comes as a statewide priority or whether it's the local priority, we'll I'll work with the superintendent and cabinet as far as the recommendation. I'll also work with each of you individually if you will call and spend the time on your concerns. Um that's what we have for discussion. I don't know what the members have as far as feedback. >> I have a a question about the local priorities number one. So that one point the grant the 1.5 the 2.25 25 million. Um would is it is it that based on the size of the district or it do you have to you said there were different categories that that could be used for? Do you have to pre-specified or or is it saying hey we're going to um give you this funding and you can use

037it on any of these items or do you have to pre get a pre-approved per se on what you're going what your project is or what you're going to >> Okay, there was a lot in that question. So if they adopt the $25 million, >> NEC will receive about $11 million, >> but NEC will not keep that money, nor will they charge an administrative fee on it. What'll happen is the board of directors of NEC will then decide how to distribute it to its members. >> Okay? >> Part of the money is generated based on a per district amount and part the rest of it is on a per student amount. But NEC could distribute it on a different manner. And our superintendent was on the committee that was negotiating how to do that distribution

038until the point that it wasn't going to pass anymore. They will that's why I can't give you an exact amount, but it will be somewhere in that range. And even at the $1.5 million range, that's more than 1% of your general revenue budget. And while it has to go to one of those eight things, those are eight things that you want to do and it frees up money in your general fund in essence. But you they want us to hit this one of those items or more than one of those items and hit it in a way that we can show the progress that is made so that they can then justify continuing the funding after the the the two-year period. And so we want whether we address student advancement or or CTE or or

039whatever it is that we want to address. We want to show that we've done it >> and then that becomes the basis of of arguing that the money should stay recurring. >> But we don't have to in advance say this is what it is. Um the way that it was being worked on prior to it not passing was that we would have to inform the areas that we would be addressing. Um and the range is there really because when we look at the size we are the largest in um NEIC. So if we were to go by just straight per FTE then it may be closer to the 2.25. However, if we go per in amount for each district as well as per FTE um it would go somewhere between the 1.5 and the 2.25.

040The the idea and the purpose of it is to be able to work together as a consortium in order to do something significant for the students in that um in that consortium um to be able to do something cons uh u considerable to um impact achievement in those areas. So, >> sorry, just one more question. This already uh the the uh when when we I wanted a clarification on the reoccurring because I I heard two different things that didn't quite click. I heard two years I heard reoccurring. So, is the idea this would be reoccurring just for two years or would this be something that would be in uh put into effect recur recurring beyond that? So the the plan last year from the Senate's perspective was that there would be a commitment for three

041years of funding. It would actually go into the statute that this 25 million was recurring and in order to stop it, the legislature would typically either have to repeal that law or they would have an implementing bill that would repeal that law for the one year. But all of the planning of the state by the executive branch, whether it's by the commissioner of education, the department of education, the state board of education, and even the governor would be based upon the law that says that this gets funded. So that's what it means to be recurring is that you know that that they intend for it to recur. I don't know whether the deal would just be that it would that they would guarantee two years and then we would see after that. There really is

042no guarantee with recurring money. What it means when they say it's recurring is it will recur in the base budget, but they can then cut it if they want to. Non-recurring means that when the base budget is created for the following year, it automatically drops out and if they want to refund it, they have to refund it. So, it's really it's it's more of a staff and administrative kind of thing, but um it's it's going into the statute as recurring money. And the belief is that the the legislature through its budget process would at least fund it two years and then we would see what would happen after that. And that's that's I mean I one legislature can't bind another legislature to a budget. So this is the most you could possibly get. But it's

043more than a local project which you know is pretty much one year of funding. just um yeah, it's just always when to you know, as I've come to learn in the time I've been in office is that, you know, whenever we have dollars that are offsetting a general fund and then we get uh we we start a program or we offset a cost and we get comfortable with that, the minute those become uh nonreoccurring, it it comes back to the to our our general fund. So, we just got to be cautious with what we use that for that it it that it's not a ticking time bomb for later or we may have to be have a program that we're willing to to pull the funding um you know goes away. So, that that's just

044when I hear those those those words, you know, and it's only for it's nice that there's at least gives you some horizon, you know, to at least two years or at least three. So as we're coming up on it, we can start planning to say, hey, are they going to renew this for another three years, right? So at least that's helpful for predictions. But okay, thanks for that clarification. That was all I had. >> Um, with that rural renaissance, um, this is something where we have to attach our star to others because this is a several eight county thing, right? So uh, or 11 counties, 11 counties. And so you have knowledge that these folks are also putting that on their local portion of their legislative agendas and we're not the uh in the minority

045of that. >> It's actually 40 districts. I don't know whether all 40 will include it or not, but we are one of the larger ones of the 40. And so, you know, most of these districts are not looking at a a 1.5 to two two and a quarter million opportunity. Um, I I know that in some of the original proposals of the Senate, they were looking at different distribution methodologies where Flaggler wouldn't have been included at all. Right. >> So, I kind of think making sure that our delegation knows that this is really important to you so that they don't pass rural renaissance and don't include some of the the bigger districts or or or or >> so what does the timing alignment look like on this from uh you know because when they resurrect

046this or if they do that language could undergo substantive changes and yet when we submit this if we're advocating for a program that maybe has changed to not align with our interests what is our flexibility to move if that were to occur in anything you put the things can change. I will be on the ground pushing for the making sure they don't amend it. That's against your interest and making sure that our delegation and all of the leadership know what our interests are and what we believe is the right way. I know that we've already done that work with the Senate President's staff because that's why we're in in the first place. Um, and so we would continue that on something like this that is being proposed by the by the top leadership, whether it

047was the governor or the speaker or the president, you kind of have to rely on them to some degree to advocate for their own proposal because this is his proposal at this point. It's not it's not ours specifically. Um, but I know that his staff knows why this is important to us and how and what needs to happen in order to keep us a certain way. >> And um, you know, everything in the legislative process is a negotiation on every issue all the time. This issue got lost last year between when the agreement was made to have two and a half billion dollars of tax cuts and when it when the governor said that that was DOA upon, you know, dead on arrival. Um, we went from this was going to happen to this was

048definitely not going to happen. That's just >> and as a member of the board of directors for NEG um you know I if this becomes a part of your platform I will push at our meeting that's coming up um next week to have this included in the NEC u platform but more importantly um to encourage the other members to propose it to uh their boards as well. as you know the the the this platform is a platform of the board and so they would be making a proposal to the board that it be included like like we are as well. I will add that last year um all of the consortium um they were in agreement that um they did not want districts pursed out you know because we're a little bit less rule than

049this or a little bit bigger than this group. Um so I can I can confidently say when it comes to um NEC especially is that we look at this as this is for our entire consortium and all of us um are included and impacted when it relates to rural renaissance. >> Okay. Um, with regard to the BPK item, one of my concerns there is that the way that we're asking for this is um money essentially which expands schools, right? Capital expansion, increasing student headcount. That's how it could be read by those maybe who are trying to have more control over that. And so I was thinking that it might be um advantageous to word it in such a way that highlights that even though we're not necessarily asking for expansion of property, but including them

050highlights the use and wear and tear of the facilities because VPK and adult ed, they may occur uh during offseason, summer, or evening hours, but there's still that wear and tear on the buildings. Um whereas the charter schools to your point in in the legislative uh uh platform don't have that and are uh funded at the same 100% right but we have these extra students. So that's just my concern in the way that it's framed uh in that hey we're asking for money which could lead to expanded numbers of schools and I thinking placing the argument in a different light to increase the chances of it. >> I I'll talk with you again offline about this. We're not actually expanding the amount of money that's available. And the money that we're spending is is the

051money that the school board has raised either through your 1.5 mills or through the half penny that the the citizens voted for. It's really just how many students count for sharing purposes. It doesn't expand the source. It doesn't it doesn't entitle us to more state funding. It just in the mix of how much do you have to share with the charter? we would have a slightly more slightly greater number of students that would be in our numerator and the denominator for >> but wouldn't it be included in the capacity calculations to determine if a school if an additional school needs to be purchased that's the lens that I'm worried that they will block >> um >> I think we if we can go back and kind of play around with the the um the wording

052on on that from the lens of the actual use of the building, the use of the the the funding that we use even when you speak to the half cent because those individuals are not excluded from us. We're servicing them, but we're not we're ser we're not getting the credit for how we go about um servicing them. So we can I I have a better understanding of what your your position is related to this and we can definitely bring back some some language that we see about kind of capturing that. And um I know that you sent some information. We can also if you if you as of each of you as you're going through this, if there is particular wording that you would like for us to include in the next draft, you can

053also send that to us um to ensure that we're capturing what it is that your thought is related to the platform. Okay. Um, so we will >> Should we then now discuss as a board what our options are for number three if people have proposals? >> Well, that's what you were going to uh to call us individually for. Is that what we were talking? >> No, you can definitely absolutely hear. Yeah. >> Do we want to start and backtrack on the first one just to keep it all bundled in case because I had a couple things. I just didn't know if we want to keep it organized because I know we >> I just didn't know how much time we had allocated for this section um for the for today. I I have no problem

054with I just >> No, I was just trying to keep it organized so we weren't bouncing off. >> We can if we want to talk about some more options here. We can just go ahead. So >> yeah, I mean it would be my proposal that you know the workshop is where we this is informational. So, what I would like to hear is, you know, just what are your issues with these items and then we can dig in deeper, but then I'm really eager to hear what everybody's proposal is for this number three placement because otherwise we're going to be at the workshop and then at the heels of needing to have something approved with very little time to to consider or another opportunity to have a discussion. >> I think it's time well spent. And

055for the workshop, are we saying for the next workshop or in the additional one that potentially being added? >> Oh, we're saying for the next Okay. >> workshop. >> All right. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, um, Miss Ry, did you have a list there? Did you want to start? >> Well, I had two options for number three. >> Well, before we go to the number three, I think Miss what Miss um Ramirez was asking is can't she wants to address number. >> I just wanted to just um and just really short sweet and we can workshop it more. Um I know and for the public to know this was the the rural renaissance was what we went to Tallahassee for uh like when we first got on board and we were really positive and pumped

056about it and unfortunately it didn't get passed. Um so that's it's basically you know potentially we could run for this or try to get this again and Mr. you brought up really good points because you know grant money and we could invest and then it kind of can go away. But what I'm thinking, and this is what I was thinking when we went to Tallahassee, if we got this money, this grant money, one and done, whatever it may be, but we should we could potentially focus on, you know, the ESSE. So, you know, we want to be an a district ESSE was something we could potentially use that to invest in the strategies for professional learning. So, it's it's long-term. So, that would be a chunk one and done. That's very expensive for any professional

057learning long-term that would help with our ESSE platform that Miss Mort talks about, all of our schools talk about get us out of that uh what are we in? There's something >> federal index watch list. >> We're trying to get out of this index watch, which is really not good to be in. And so I feel like it is really good a great idea in my opinion and then we could strategically use it knowing it's one and done but dump it into something that could really make us an A and then obviously help ESSE and then the strategies for the teachers to move it forward those that are here you know they like to keep continuing you know so I wanted to add that because that was a good point >> and I just want

058to point just because you mentioned it um I I'm not opposed to the >> Oh I know But I just wanted to emphasize that whatever we're using those dollars for we have to be mindful of that. That's all. >> Oh, for No, for sure. But I was trying to think like if we did if we were able to get this big bucket if like we thought we were going to get it. So that's what I was thinking. Let's use it potentially for something that are a big goal of ours is to be back in a >> So um so yeah, that's what I wanted to and I've heard other districts talking about the Renaissance actually a lot. So, so what we hear right now is that um for the proposal going forward is that we

059will keep number one as an option on the draft going forward. Any are you guys opposed to us keeping that as an option >> for the draft? My only non-negotiables were that it is not based upon decreasing um populations of the community, which is what uh some of that bill had language about in the past, and that it has explicit information or funding uh able to be used for public schools. And number three is that whichever is the administrative bo body or organization that they do not take an administrative cut or portion of that money which I my understanding is that because this is state grant. They're not allowed to unless it's included in the bill. So that's right. I I know that defect has no intention to take a an administrative cut and that

060the Senate President did not want an administrative cut out of out of that $25 million grant. >> In my life, if I haven't seen it in writing, then it it's going to I'm confident in all maybe a little over cautious >> as far as being in the proposal. >> So, we will keep that with some um maybe some additional um information added to it. >> I feel good about it, I think. Right. Do you guys agree? Right. item number. >> All right, we're going to bring back some language um some additional language for number two to talk about more so the wear and tear and the use of um the resources. So, we will do that um if you guys want to move to number three and then any um additional ones that you have

061that are not addressed. >> All right. So, on this one here um who wants to start? You all have a list of things that are ideas. >> I have an I mean did you want to go or I mean I had >> Go ahead. >> I have two options for consideration to just throw out there. Um again thinking about local impact uh the regionalization of the um career and technical programs greatly impacted um the amount of funding that we've received when we grouped as well-intentioned as this is and they've made some progress in those other areas. Flagler County has the highest unemployment rate between Valuchia and uh um Broward but or Bvard, but we're receiving a disproportionately lower amount of those funds. Um and so it's impacting our ability to service our community in the

062career and technical education. And so the the recommendation would be to change the allocation formula to essentially be both populationbased and um need-based. Uh I I sent some ideas. I'm not you know again I'm sure some some people will come up with some other better options as well as uh a little bit of a reward base where what are your outcomes? You get some money based upon that. And I know that it's the governor's wish to really expand this program. Um I it's well intentioned. I've seen great outcomes with some of it. It's just that a community like Flaggler in our particular regionalization has been left out. So that would be one option for the board to consider. And my second was um that keeping in line with the idea that what we request we

063must also fund at 50%. We've also already uh approved a an additional headcount to our staff in order to help better guide our families and students in choosing um programs within Flaggler schools as well as providing education uh should they inquire about PEP or voucher programs. Um, but what was really needed is for students in those transitioning grade levels, say fifth to 6th and 8th to 9th, to be able to have some uh a dedicated uh conference with a representative from our school district that can put them on a career or college ready path. And so if we've already upfront spending the money on the guidance counselors and now this additional headcount as well as the team in the student services, we would ask for like kind money so that we could expand that at

064the local at the school level. Does that make any sense? staffing for counseling in transition grade levels to get a dedicated conference for setting college or career track >> right so that everybody because students in fifth grade don't think that the choices that they make will matter and parents don't know the number of parents that I say if I had known I wouldn't have waited to high school if they don't take the right math by fifth or sixth grade they're procluded from let's say IB if they are disenfranchised with the academic programs in middle grades where that's when males start to really drop in their academic performance and if they don't see that there are career preparation programs then they lose that interest in school and their performance suffers that's where you get the dropout

065rate so having those counseling and tracks created in a formalized plan with a student at those particular junctures in their career I think could ensure that every student not only graduates but graduates with that diploma plus whether it's that uh AP IBA dual enrollment or an industry certification acceptance into apprenticeship things of that that nature. >> Miss ready are so are you suggesting I just want to make sure I understand this. So almost like um so number three could be our project uh like that role for like across the board um in between fifth six and then priority into high school. So >> they set they set a plan then they review it going into high school and they ensure that the parents and the students right like a career >> things are so just

066I know we're not workshopping now but that is a valid point. Things are changing and u like I was at the dentist and that dentist like you know I know your school board and these are things I have kids that went through Flaggler schools and now they're here and there but if we knew such and such and you know here's some advice and you know because I know you have children. So almost like preparing them to be prepared. So those that really want >> making the right choices for what they want to. >> So like a program you're creating a program that has that way, right? program and staffing that would be able to have those com conferences with uh students and and families which essentially is an extension of the student services counseling and

067the um I I'm sorry I don't remember >> what's the name of the position that was approved >> um >> the student uh services or the student choice coordinator I don't >> choice specialist I'm like okay choice >> we've essentially already contributed an amount of money if we're asking We take all of that headcount utilization say we would like the other half of that and to embed these programs uh you know that's >> like a career liaison team >> I think we would have to definitely kind of dig into what the wording would be because the meeting with students individual meeting with students um around college career class choices is already a part of um the requirements of um school counselors. Um and there was some language that I know that there was some new

068language just added to that specifically. So, we'll have to dig into that a little bit more to kind of identify >> what is it that we're really asking for that is outside of what the requirement already is for them to do that. The issue is that our school counselors aren't equipped to have these necessarily like long-term planning because of the programs and they're also right they're dealing with mental health. They're dealing with um positive behavior interventions, IEPs, other uh wellness issues that a student has and do not have the capacity. If you think about it, right, what do we have at um let's say uh Rimfire Elementary School? What is there 800 students there now? >> No. Um, 1100 students there and what do we have three guidance counselors there? >> Two school counselors there.

069>> Two school counselors. >> That's an impossible case load. So they're dealing with the the the issue the the the issues that become uh emergency right uh whereas this is planning for the future and we desperately I feel need to do this in order to help folks navigate uh these choices for their children. Um, >> I've got it down. We what we'll need to do because if we're when we're talking about a local project, we're talking about asking the legislature for money one time and we have to match with the other half of the money and then that happens one time and in the future years we have to be able to sustain whatever it is on our own. So, we have to, you know, we're going to have to work with the cabinet and

070finance in order to find the right mix. >> Um, >> but I I have your idea down and we'll we'll discuss and and certainly I'm hoping that each of you will contact me and the superintendent about your priorities so that we can make sure that there's that it gets considered appropriately. um one that you know we talked about and you you gave me really great feedback and information. So I'm not quite sure it will work on a local level potentially the state level but I if there is a way and I know it's not impossible but h somehow adding uh statewide um increasing our student mental health and safety the funding because we know it's based off of the formula that was created in the 80s. Um we are a safe county where but it's

071hurting us but the increases for resource officers they you know they get raises just like anyone else so we need to match that and if we can't afford it so then we can't pay them and then same thing with mental health counselors but yet we're not getting the money to us and I know we only have the two that we out of but if there is a way >> we can add another item to the statewide issues as far as far as this was the first year since Marjorie Stman Douglas that mental student mental health that was created that year and safe schools which was created back in the 80s but ever since Marjorie Stoneman Douglas both of those items received an increase every year and this last budget was the first time that that

072did not happen. So we could e very easily adopt a new statewide issue that both of those items need an increase that's in line with workload and inflation and forward those to FSBA and the superintendent can can advocate for that within the superintendent's platform as appropriate. But particularly for your platform, the items would go to FSBA and um and advocate for that portion of it. Changing the formula is a statewide issue, but there are as many, you know, that's the changing the formula. There's winners and losers. So, it's probably not appropriate for FSBA's platform, and it's probably not something that our two delegation members could fix for us in isolation. >> And um and I just want to to your point, M. as um the sheriff was here, he did indicate that his willingness to

073um partner and work on um a proposal for how to address um the formula. Um I know that last session um that there was language that included reviewing that formula. Nothing has been done with that. So, I think some of that, be it is included in your platform or not, is really just us getting together and actually working with the um sheriff's office on what our proposal will be because we can ask them to address it, but what are we asking them to address it to that is going to be specifically beneficial to us here in Flaggler County? Because to uh Bob's point, there there are some people that they don't want it to change because they're 100% funded. And then there are people like us that say we understand that though we live in

074a safe community um we still have a requirement to provide an SRD at each of our our school or um equivalent um through the guardian program and you know the funding does not allow for us to be able to do that. >> So yeah. >> Yeah. I ju just that that was going to be one of my statewide requests. I actually called uh Senator Leak and Representative Greco and and and dropped that in their ear and one of them wasn't even aware that that was a factor. Um so I think it's just about bringing awareness uh to this here so that at least that I mean we're in the world of unfunded mandates, right? But when when it comes down to this here where other schools are getting the full funding and we we're mandated

075the same that at least we're we're getting the funding for the minimum requirements for this safe schools. And it's because it's not a it's a matter of you know when you say uh it's a safe it's a safer community so we're going to give you less dollars. Well, you know I I'm pretty sure Parkland has pretty low crime rate, right? And so it I don't know where the correlation draws in there >> to increase with I mean if if you're getting a raise you know when it's not it shouldn't just be about the safety I mean people at yearly or you know if they're going to be >> but the current model is that is what is used it is used >> to be re-evaluated I guess and again a state level and then we

076saw Senator Leak um last week and I brought it up and as a question and um it it really just wasn't I don't think they understood. >> I think part of it is though, we have to spend that money wisely. And when we're paying for SRD officers, there's 100% of their salary. When they work 180 days, that's where they're going to come back and say, "Are you spending that money wisely? >> 180 days of the school year. >> They work during summer. We now have three positions that we fund 100% of their salary, but they do not work two the 256 odd available like a full-time. >> The ones that we fund work with us and they cover the entire time. The ones that we do not, they don't. And that's always when we think

077about it, um the county is putting in 50% towards it. And so those individuals then go and work um work road service during that time. So I I agree that there is an issue that we need to address here as a community because if the county did not go in with us, we absolutely could not afford to meet the requirement in the way that it is outlined um and potentially not even meet it with uh even with some of the other options that are available through um safe schools. So, >> so that was just something either state probably not local but um >> and and we have a large legislative body and there are a lot of issues on the table and not they're not going to know the incremental uh nuances to each one.

078It's but you know just like you said you you it's for us to advocate the community to advocate for these things so they it's it comes to their attention >> and then they it moves up to the top of the stack you know and I think that's you know this is a start right um so >> all right >> okay >> thank you all >> well thank you >> so get back on track here. Okay, this is going to be financial consent. Miss Warmarmac, welcome. Thank you. Good afternoon, J3 board members and superintendent more. I'm here to answer any questions you have regarding finance consent items. >> Just a note. Um, as these items represent June, there are no agenda items for financials for the charter school or the district as those will be presented

079after the audit report is finalized in September. >> Okay. So, we'll start with 7.01 requests for u proof of purchase orders over 10,000. Is there uh any questions or comments regarding these items listed? Um what is JSC systems annual service for care systems? >> It's our intercom system but >> that again. >> Uh yes that is correct. That's our intercom system. Intercom system districtwide. Um, and that last year was our first year using this contract. And that is a parts and labor all-inclusive contract districtwide for a year. >> Just wasn't sure. >> Miss Warick, can you remind me the 1.5 mil fund, does that fund um include the contribution for safe schools and such? >> No. safe schools comes through our general fund through our regular FFP. >> So, there was some hardening of the

080um youth center >> and >> can you tell me what page you're on, please? >> Uh, sure. Let me find it again. I'm sorry. I should do that. You think I've learned my lesson? >> I got it. Uh it is page number five. >> Uh de Scorpio. >> So that one says it's the um 296,000 is coming from the 1.5 million. I was wondering why why that difference in this case. >> Sure. So those the safe schools allocation that we get from the state solely goes for our um SRD contract. Okay. >> So, it uses up the entire allocation. Um, a few years ago, um, prior to Corey Bush coming on, um, myself and Dave Freeman and and senior management along with Corey later on, um, decided that we needed to put a separate allocation

081in the 1.5 mills for safety projects. We do have a separate annual um, grant allocated to us for school hardening. The problem is those funds have been steadily decreasing every year. So there are a lot of safety projects that need to be done and we don't have the funds to do it. So we allocated a few hundred,000 in the 1.5 mil every year to make sure that we keep on track. >> I mean maybe that's a consideration then if we have to finish some of these hardening projects. Um uh would you be able to follow up on the outstanding hardening projects that are out there that we don't have funding for then? Um just so for myformational purposes. Yeah, that would have to be >> that. Yeah, we can definitely >> We can get that

082to to them. Yes. >> I also have a question for you, Mr. Bush. I'm sorry. I see that there are um the lease payments on the modular uh buildings. And so there are some uh discrepancies in terms of when I say discrepancy I don't mean um >> there are differences between uh the different buildings on here on these line items and how much they're costing per year. Is that because is there like an amortization going on there? Uh you know >> scaling amount like is the first year the most expensive the second year >> size and size and age right? that some of they're different depending on if we call them a wet portable which means has a bathroom in it or dry that doesn't mean that that the style they are different types so

083there's different variances based on the particular portable >> okay and some of these people would not normally think are portables right because they they're I think what was it you call them concretables >> so they're concretables >> and they last 20 years >> yes that's that's the average that the the state or DOE he says that they're supposed to. >> So, how can I um tell the difference when we're um spending money on these um semi-mporary fixtures? Uh which ones are more of that shorter term portable versus a longer term concretable or do we use the concretable now exclusively? >> Um no, not exclusively. It depends on the the portable the ones with the wheels underneath them. We don't usually get them any longer. Um, but I would I could get that from mobile modular

084because there's different types. Um, you know, and if it's an office, it may it doesn't have to be built as in a classroom would need to be because we've got to meet certain >> different standards. That's correct. Code. So, there's different varically. >> Yes, ma'am. Different levels because obviously the office we can get them a little less expensive than a classroom that has to be rated, fire rated, and all those different things. And none of these were new purchases. These are existing leases that it's just the next year's installment. >> That's correct. We we did not purchase any new ones. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Um I did see at Banel all the new work being done. It says waterproofing. I'm just curious was was there leaks happening or like >> what

085made that come about? that is part of um plant services when we're we're assessing buildings and going through through the entire district that we have to to maintain the structure. Um you do have where they start wearing down from the sun and there's joints around the windows and all there's a lot of different issues that happen that they do start having leaks. Um you can patch them but eventually those patches also wear out. So we strategically have been working like we did rimfire a couple years ago. We did that facility and then banell we did the concretable because we were having a lot of issues with that one and then we wanted to finish up Benell and that's where we budgeted that to finish that that facility. And I just want to be clear the

086reason why it's waterproofing and coating is it's not just being painted. We are removing down spouts, all the um and they're removing all the joints around the windows and they're truly actually waterproofing that and the coating the mill thickness is if you were to paint that structure three times. >> Oh, yeah. >> That one that that particular time. >> I mean I it definitely was a big project. I could see that. >> Yes, ma'am. >> And just for clarification, this has been on your fiveyear >> That is correct. >> Plan that you all will see when he presents it when Mr. Bush presents it later on. Um the canopy coverage um was is that the cost after submitting insurance or is that damage too small to submit to insurance? This is dur due to hurricane.

087>> As far as in we always whether it goes through our insurance or it's through FEMA which some of that is we're paying for everything upfront and then it's but basically >> reimbursed if you will depending on um the insurance. If they only give you so much then FEMA will then hopefully it's a long process. And what I mean by that, Ian, we literally just finished up with FEMA this past week to go to the state to hopefully get a check. And I'm still not clear on the process. So that was in 22. >> So to let you know when I mean, you know, but all of the damages or whatever obviously we've had to repair, we had to fix back in 22. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um >> so Miss Warmarmac how do we see

088those um insurance dispersements when they come retroactive after the payment of the damage is that how does that typically show up in the financial >> it is it is deposited back into the 1.5 mil >> but do we see that as an adjustment like in the financial records? You wouldn't be able to see it on the district financials because it is >> like any other cash receipt we get on a daily basis, but the coding is trackable in the 1.5 mil because we code it back to the hurricane that it belongs to. So if I were to pull a revenue report for the 1.5 mil by code strip for the hurricanes that all start with 97, you would be able to see it. >> Okay. Thank you for that. >> Okay. Thank you, M. Bush.

089All right. So, we'll move on to vendor. >> I just had Sorry. >> Oh, you did. I apologize. >> I'm okay. So, I'm good with Mr. Bush. So, he answered a lot of my questions earlier. Uh, for the Sarah Consulting Group, is that the annual fee that we is it just annual for? >> That is our annual contract with Sarah Consulting is paid quarterly. >> Oh, they're paid quarterly. >> They are paid quarterly. >> Okay. So, what we see here >> is for the whole year. >> That's for the whole year. Okay. And I know um Okay, I think I'm good. All right. Yes. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Is that all, Mr. Murice? >> Yes. Thanks. >> So, we'll move on to uh vendor payment 7.02. Any question or comments on this agenda

090item? Okay. Hearing none, we'll move on. 7.03 uh approval for deletion of inventory. Small list. The guidance. [Music] All right. Uh if there aren't any other comments, we'll move on to uh approval for uh finance budget amendments. Okay. So, I believe that that concludes our finance consent. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> We'll move on to academic services 9.01 core ELA instruction material adoption and we have three. >> Good afternoon. uh today before you a few items. Our first one is the ELA adoption and this is opening up our public review process. Um we've got the timeline there for you to kind of see where we're at as far as this process. We did make a slight adjustment because the YMCA was here in our last meeting to make sure we had plenty of time.

091So >> you see the reflection of that and that shift and change for us, but we have allowed oursel plenty of time for that to take place and work through that process. So we'll be advertising this on Facebook and our other location so parents know they have access to that. It is available on our website and we set up our teaching and learning office for anybody want to come in and physically look at the materials. >> Is there um a way So when you say you're setting up to put on Facebook, you're saying to promote parents and stuff. Um, is there a way to have because I've I've been a parent to come and you know and you have it here, correct? Like every year or >> is there a way to have it or

092split it up somehow? I'm just trying to think to get more parents involved because I know every time I've gone I think one time I was the only parent and maybe one time there were two to have them at a different location like maybe at a campus where we may get more input from parents coming to a campus. I'm just trying to brainstorm how can we >> we can look at that. We do offer it online as well. So they can they can go online so they're not tied to a physical location. Um there are copyright issues that we have to deal with and so we have to guard that piece of information which is why we have it anchored at the teaching learning office but they can go online and review those information as

093well and provide feedback. >> Yeah. I'm just wondering if if they came in person they may do it more but >> yeah so they can come in here um once the materials once we get the materials for um for the actual campuses when the teachers and um things begin the teachers begin to review it um we could potentially open it up for additional parent review during that time once the materials are actually there on campus for them. >> Yeah. Yes. So, we've gone through that that process of selection. We've got our input from our teachers and staff and we're now at the public review process for thatformational part of that. And then there'll public comments as well at our school board meeting on uh September 23rd. Uh at that point, then we have our district

094committees which encompasses parents. >> So, right now the two options for families are you can come here to the district office to review or you can review it at on online. Correct. At your leisure. >> Correct. Okay. >> And we do have parents involved in our district committees that review the materials again when we make our final selections. >> I think that's what Miss Ramirez is referencing when she's been a part of the district committee to come in. >> Maybe that is Yeah, maybe I'm miss I'm just wondering like having it at campuses like events like this that the input is important and you want more feedback if you have potentially at a campus we may get more parents. But when the parents when the parents are coming for that district review, you're coming in

095as a representation of parents for that grade level across the district. >> So we, you know, we we could have it at a campus, but it would just be at a campus. It would not be at the home campus for all of our parents. >> But don't we have I'm just like when we have literacy night and it's at Buddy Taylor, we have so many families come and show up because they're more familiar. I'm just thinking a more familiar location we may get more input like having it how we have literacy night and just I'm just trying to think of ideas just to help >> certainly when we consider other adoptions we can consider that and then our for our district committee is just a reminder that >> parents are selected and picked ahead of

096time to be a part of that process to make sure that we have parental uh representation across from our campuses plural. So they've agreed to be a part of that process for review to make sure that we're getting a good balance of input from our >> and maybe what we'll do is just when we start to promote this out we just encourage or make sure that we inform families that it is available virtual because you don't have to come here to do it. We do have families that do come to review it but you could do it at home and review it at home. So we will promote that and push that. Yeah, I know you've said it's been on like social media even though somehow I never see it, but um if we could

097send it by email or something. >> You can send out through email. I wrote down parent square as well. >> That's what I just wrote down. Parent Square. >> Okay. So, we'll move on to 9.02. Emry Riddle Aeronautical University and Flagger Schools dual enrollment agreement. >> Yes, it's up for renewal. This is our 25 2025 through 2028 articulation agreement that we've have with uh Emeryville University and this is our standard agreement and information for you on that as well as our statement of work and budget on page 10 which kind of breaks down our costs and kind of gives you how we're moving forward this just a reminder that um last year we did step back from the Kansas high school we were offering uh homeland security courses there and this year uh to put

098that back into place, we brought in uh it's AS120, which is principles of flight, and AS220, which is uncrrewed flight. And so, we're giving our students on the northern campus the opportunity to take these courses, and that's the first time it's being offered this year. Any questions there hearing? Now, we'll move on to 9.03, Professional Learning Catalog. >> Thank you, sir. This is our annual requirement to bring before you and then once it's completed we'll send this to DOE but we have a great relationship and partnership with new effect and they provide us these services uh throughout the year and for a number of years provide us information like ASD endorsement Esau reading literacy clined which helps our staff and our teachers as well as special programs for early learning they've added to this this

099year the math matrix microcredentiing and some new components for teaching students with disabilities and that's what's attached for you there. But they also help us with leadership with FEL's training, school leadership networks, uh principal internships and coaching codies as well as helping our staff renew their certifications. Okay, then uh that wraps that up. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> All right, so now we'll move on to operational services 10.01. 01 the five-year plan presenter Mr. Bush. Welcome back. >> Good afternoon, chair. Yes, >> another guy today. >> Board member, superintendent more. Um, today I'm presenting the tenative 2526 5-year capital plan. This plan not only outlines our strategic priorities for the upcoming year, but also serves as a foundational component of the official 5-year work plan that we will submit to the Department

100of Education later in the year. For the 2526 fiscal year, our proposed capital budget totals 13,180,000 and that's across three key areas. new construction or major projects um which you see here in front of you on the 2526 which is um a little over $8 million. Then we have our building repairs and small projects is 4,450,000 and then our service and annual contracts and that's totals $650,000. Uh this budget reflects continued focus on safe, efficient, and future ready learning environments while also addressing essential maintenance and operational needs districtwide. What questions do you all have for me? Uh can you provide some clarity on the role of the principles in directing some of the uh fiveyear capital plans uh relative to the needs of their school and the interests of their uh community members that they

101serve at their particular campus. >> So we have a there's a couple different scenarios or options that they have. We have monthly facility um meetings that at that time they meet with plant services and other operational teams that discuss the needs or wants that they may have at their facility. Um we also have a project request form that um they can fill out on the internet to where if there's a project that they're wanting to bring forth that they would fill that out that comes to my department and then based on that we meet with them senior team depending on what the needs are and move forward depending on what the needs are dollar amount what that looks like. And we have a change in leadership at a school, right? You've had outgoing uh leaders

102have a certain vision or items that they want accomplished and then you have an incoming leader. How do you work to reconcile that? Do you sometimes on the items that are not I'm sure that there and a lot of this is hey these are required elements that we have to keep up going for maintenance and others maybe a a particular interest or uh program that they want to ensure has the correct space and facilities and uh environment. So how do you reconcile that changing vision with the incoming leadership? So we will share whatever the vision of the previous administration would be to say that you know this is some of the things that they may want and they would either sometimes you know what that's not as important to them and they would like to

103see something else and then again it would go into if it was something that they wanted I would say well we need to fill out a project request because then it time date stamps and then we would move forward doing the same thing and then also on the project form that we have, we would if they decided that they didn't want to do whatever may have been on there and and captured in the five-year plan in year six or further, then we would make notes that that was no longer needed or wanted um as far as something by the school. >> Okay. I know with the schools it's it's impossible and it would be irresponsible actually to say hey everybody gets the same amount of money because then you're going to have certain maintenance things

104that cannot be finished or like Matanis you would never build an extension right so um however there has to be an eye for some sort of parody in terms of u this this spending right um especially as our new schools aren't so new anymore um that's correct How do you strategically uh uh keep track and or consider that in this five-year plan? >> So, for plant services, there's some key elements that we look at. We look at the building envelope, which we were talking about earlier, health and wellness, HVAC, and then emergencies. Um, oftent times for us, the things that we're looking at, you all don't see. People do not see them. They're not they're behind the scenes of things. Um as such as in I showed uh Mr. Furry, we took a tour over

105at FPC and showed him the chiller and all of those things which that's a $6.5 million project over three years. Matanzis, we're starting that that project and that's uh a little over 7.5 million. Again, a three-year project. So looking at those, but there's a lot of factors that go into that. the work orders, what kind of work orders are we getting based on failures or um having to fix those? The age of the facility, how is the facility holding up? Um so there's different factors that plant services we look at routinely to see what how that works into our five-year plan. And then when there's emergencies, the emergencies we come come to us, we get with senior cabinet if we need to. If we don't have the funds and figure out how do we get

106an emergency done to handle that, something may need to slide to the right, which meaning it may be budgeted right now for this year and that may have to go to 26 and 27 because an emergency came up and it and it may have been on the five-year plan. We just may have had it. We had three or four years or even six years and it didn't uh unfortunately last where we thought it would. So then it would take the place of that. >> Well, now I think there's a better tracking system or will be starting right for projects where administration would be. >> So I I think you're um talking a little bit about what we've also learned and improved since um having a conversation around what the different responsibilities are. You when you

107heard what Mr. Bush is listing um about the envelope, the the ceiling, the HVAC, all of those things, those things that people don't see, but there are those things that individuals uh see and look at as well. And so, um one of the um areas, and you can talk a little bit about this, Corey, is there are some maintenance things that are the requirement of the school, and then there are some maintenance things that are um or plant service type things that are the responsibility of the district. And then how do those things intersect to identify, you know, what is the oversight that the district has to those things that fall within the school level. If you want to talk a little bit about what we've kind of learned and um are implementing moving forward.

108>> And primarily it it has to do with athletics. um typically plant services we um and part of the process what we're learning is although we're in charge of facilities that would generally be on the school. So if the school we understood that if they wanted something needed something when it had to do with athletics they would come to us whether it be in a a meeting an email to be able to have those conversations. And what we learned is we still have a responsibility plant services that we still need to be looking at those and bringing that even to the school's attention to say um I'm going to use the goalposts to say you know your goalposts are you know are not looking like they're being kept up. What are we doing? How can

109we make sure that we are moving forward the way Flaggler intends to have the facility look? So that's one instance that we've learned through this process. And I think going back to Miss Ruddy's um question um about the transition of um administrators and what we've done on our leadership is when there is a transition we now have an onboarding of that administrator that principal specifically that includes a walking of the building the entire facility with key people because what has happened in the past is there may be walks but all the the people that should be a part of the walk isn't there and making sure that we have that as one of the initial things that are done. So upfront we can identify what the priorities are. Look at the facilities not just from

110the lens of the responsibility of plant services and what we are aware of but also what are those things that the school has been responsible for keeping up with. What how does those how do those things look? what do we need how do we need to intervene because there is a standard that we want to uphold as an organization but that may not be at the level of plant services because it's not a part of their normal um maintenance and so those are some of the things that we have learned and we have um adjusted um since um our leadership and we did that with um uh Mr. Poster debt and he came on and balancing out the vision of making sure that the vision of the uh of a principal does not preclude other

111areas, right? And so you may look a principal may come in and maybe their focus is on X. And so that's what they see, that's what they lean towards, but maybe they don't see why. Maybe they don't see, you know, some of the arts and those programs that still cost money and and and we still have to make sure we're keeping up with at the same level. >> When you say athletics is on the school, can like where does the school get those funds? Where would that be line item in in their particular budget? >> Well, it I mean depending on what you're talking about. I mean if it was a goalpost for instance they have their FFN which is their furniture fixer and equipment depending on their aotment if you know and again sometimes

112if they knew that let's say three years ago they knew that they wanted to replace those goalposts I would imagine no different than what we have to do with our budget. Okay, well it's going to cost this much amount of money. We don't have that this year. We may and that's a priority or something they want to do. Then I would suspect that they should save some of their FFN until they get that money or they would come to plant services and say, "Hey, we only have half and this is what it's going to cost." would you be able to have, you know, come up with the difference and depending what our, you know, what our financial situation was and then if not we could go to senior cabinet and say we're needing this. So

113there's there's opportunities and options. It's just um communicating better back to what Miss Moore said, not just well that's on them, we don't hear anything. We need to be better engaged with okay, we're seeing this as well. How can we make this happen? >> Okay. Sounds like you guys did a lot of self-reflection or retrospection for the better. So, that's amazing. >> So, specifically, we know that uh in the Matanis community, their issue is the bleachers, right? It's a it's a relatively small bleacher set that was placed there to get them up and running. Um, and you know, FPC has this giant concretable stadium, which is probably not feasible, not modern how we'd want to build it. So from your perspective and if you need time to kind of like research this uh have you

114ever been to Bartum Trails? >> No. >> So you maybe go online. I can send you something. But they always hold the band competitions there. That's why I'm there. I'm not running up there for the football. So you know, not that I don't enjoy it, but uh that's how I became familiar. And to me, the setup of the bleachers allowed for um more comfortable seating, uh expanded uh it's rather large, uh you know, to the point that they're holding these band competitions and everything for multiple districts around there and but it looked also done in a way that's modern and economical. And so, um I'm wondering, you know, as Mr. Raldi takes the helm at Matanzis. Uh that there's some if there isn't already some discussion around what what is the the cost, what is

115the feasibility, what's the style, and do some long-term planning around that. Uh you know, we're going to have the potato bowl coming up how uh hosted by Matanzis and so we'll all get an uplose and personal view uh of of how that seating is. But I do um you know from participating in different events it it definitely is an issue there. >> And and I was going to all I was going to say is you know I've had the pleasure of being here for 20 years. >> So you know in Kansas when it was built it didn't have any athletics. um you know when it was much smaller and and again with a lot of things it's grown >> and unfortunately with the growth that that has so quickly we haven't been able to you

116know to build maybe the infrastructure of on the athletic side that's where the addition that we just the 23 million addition came from because of the growth that we have there so I mean we're aware of of that and it it's about you know How do we fit that in with >> with the other things? Um I mean I believe the addition probably trumped having >> Oh, absolutely. You got to have the classroom and the academics first. Now that that's expanded, you know, let's kind of sit down and see well what is this? What does it take? What is the cost? >> And I think that that is that is a big question when we look at um what does the future of um Kansas look like? And we've had some really productive meetings with

117um Mr. Raldi, Mr. Ding, uh Mr. Bush, as well as their athletic director, um their their football coach. We've had some really productive conversations around what does the path forward look like because um what I what I wanted to say is that um especially when you look at the two high schools that we have, >> it is we can't look at comparison and cost at all. And that is not I mean you just cannot look at comparison and cost, right? People look at the wonderful stadium um that they have at Flag Palm Coast High School and they may see dollars being put into that stadium year over year, but those dollars are not to beautify it at all. It is to keep it structurally sound. Right? And if we had to do it again, I'm

118sure Mr. um Bush would say we're not doing it that way again. Um, and so there are so many different pieces. You know, there's been conversation about parts of their facility that just been just recently were were redone. It's like it is not to beautify, but when you're looking at we got to put fresh air in it, we got to change a roof and we now have water damage and so now three4s of the bu the wall is going to be down is to say what is what do what do we do to address this and be fiscally responsible. And so I think that is the thing that we've been talking about a lot with the leadership team is not necessarily about what does it cost them money because we're renovating an older facility versus

119a newer facility but making sure that when we look at their facility when we're experiencing events at that that facility at Matanis that we have the experience that is what we want to see happen here in Flaggler. Right? For instance, I'll give you an example. We talked about sound and there uh Matanza's leadership was saying that they were having an issue with their sound. Easy fix. We want to make sure you can hear. That is not something that that is very difficult. Absolutely. We can make sure that that happens. That represents the standard that we want to see. However, we can't give you the stadium that's there, right? Because of a lot of different reasons. And so we're we've we've had I think we've come a very long way from the leadership team. Um I

120think some people are not necessarily happy or satisfied with some of the the um information that we've provided but I've tried to be very clear with the leadership team as well as with indiv um the community of Matanzas is that myself nor this board we're not influenced by by who is reaching out to us but we are influenced by what is best for our kids and there are some things that were overlooked um because of a breakdown down in communication that I think that if you were to speak to the leadership team, those things have been resolved once they were brought to to our attention. But I think for some people, they felt it took parents emailing us to get to that place. And I know that I speak comfortably for you as a board

121when I say >> it's not because of parent. it was just because of a lack of communication to the right people and that we are moved by what is best for our students first, not necessarily based on um who's sending the email. If a teacher sending the email or employees sending the email versus a parent is sending the email. If it's what's best for our students, we want to make sure that we can do that and provide that. So, we provide we have come a long way. But when we look at this five-year plan, you will often see the bulk of the dollars going into those high school facilities, right? And this is the conversation that we even have with our elementary when we go to saving of dollars. You know, I remember being a

122principal and wanting to upgrade my um BPK um uh playground area >> to slides for kids. >> Yes. Yes. And I remember saying, "I don't have the dollars." And and and them saying to me, "Well, okay. So, you're going to not be able to get it right now. let's save the dollars up. Um, and so we did that and the district does consistently come in and and and help and provide support so that we can do those um do those things that are needed within the the the um campus. And so we have improved I think our process as far as the walking of the facilities the u we've changed some of even administratively at our monthly meetings um making sure we have a shared document that we've been doing that for years. We kind

123of went away from that but that we can clearly go back and say on this day we discuss this making sure everyone understands that that's where the information goes. If there is a request, please put in a project request fund so that Mr. Bush can identify if there is uh dollars within the five-year plan to be able to do that. If not, how do we prioritize um what is what is next? >> Okay, great. And with that said, if anybody's particularly passionate about football in the Kansas or Pirates, we would love to accept a donation to help build the stadium and put that business's name right in the middle. >> Welcome that with open arms. >> That was a good plug. I don't know. We may have some community members might that might be interested

124in you don't have >> and and I think that's important to just share is that we are playing a bit of a catch up. Um because when the when the building was that it's not very old 20 years ago is not a very long time ago though sometimes it may feel like that but when that building was opened it was started without the thought of having athletics at all. And so now you only not only have athletics but you have a robust athletic program. The growth in the student um population. And so there are a lot of pieces of their facilities that are they have outgrown and or are quickly outgrowing that we have to develop a plan to address and we acknowledge that and we definitely um will do everything that we can to

125ensure that they have the facilities that they need >> for that stadium. I mean like that'd be great if someone's like, "Hey, I'll go." But uh but in the real world, you know, obviously they're eventually going to need it. So what is the route for that? Like it would be discussed with leadership, plant services, this is how much it could potentially cost and then would it be something that would go on a plan like this potentially for the future? >> We we've already captured it. I I this is five years. We have um I call it six or more um beyond >> five years, however. And that totals about $87 million for the all of what we have on there. So, it's captured on there because Miss Boseman, before she left, she did put a

126project request in for that. Um in April, I believe it was. So, there's some conversations that that we need to have with Mr. Riggnney when we sit down with him. um Raldi, excuse me. Um about that. What does that look like and how do we um because to add on you're you're probably looking at somewhere close to three to $500,000 project. So, >> and I'm just asking because you know as parents you know they have questions and our role like we want to try to answer what we can, what we know, what we don't know. So just you know kind of >> so we have it captured now. We just have not identified the dollars to be able to do that. But we have had two meetings with their leadership team already. And what we

127don't want to do is just say let's prioritize that one sport, right? Because there are other items as well that are also a priority. And we've um we've already started that conversation of around what facility upgrades are needed for them. Um, we have a list of some small things that we can do quickly and that we've already started. Uh, but we are already having those conversations. Right now, it is not on the five-year plan because we do not have dollars assigned for it. Um, but we are working towards being able to slide it left as quickly as we can once that um, we identify how we can fund that. >> Nice. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? All right. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. Okay. So, we will uh

128move on to 11 point uh human resource services and that's 11.01 uh salary matrix. Dr. O'Brien, Mr. >> Good afternoon, board chairmore. We are uh looking to make an update to the salary lanes for our school nurses and uh district uh registered nurse positions. Um the current salary lane for our um district registered nurse um is really not reflective of the required qualifications of the position um which is um having being a registered nurse master's degree preferred three years of experience and also um the position would be required to supervise our other school nurses across our district and kind of be the lead on um you know policy and procedure development. So the request is to shift that salary lane um from P AAB to P A3. Um P AAAB starts at 37,000 and PAL3

129starts at 55,000. The other shift would be that it would go from a uh a school calendar uh to a 12-month calendar as we do have a need to have a a nurse um present in the summer. Um we we need a nurse to verify documents during reg student enrollment and annual registration. And we have to bring someone in to do that um part-time over the summer as it currently stands >> as well as for our summer programs. as well as for our summer programs. We do have a need for our nurses. We've also experienced this year um we no longer are able to receive um nurses that uh we call them SNAP nurses. That's a nursing agency, but we received uh funding from the Department of Health that has dried up. Um and we've

130had those nurses supporting our schools and our summer programs for the past few years. And so, um, as we right now have, um, you know, a vacancy or, um, you know, we have, uh, nurses that need to call off or take leave, um, we're having to fill that with, uh, substitute nursing, um, you know, company. And so, by having this district nurse, we would also have the ability to have someone to cover down and kind of lead in those, uh, cases where we have someone out. >> Did you say masters preferred? >> Yeah. I don't think that's really necessary. I mean, if they're coming with the experience, you know, >> it that's just the qualifications in the job. Um, and so so what we're saying here is that the the salary starting at um 30

13137 uh,000 is not reflective of those qualifications currently on it. >> So you want to change it to 55. >> That would be the starting. >> And also changing the school ESC nurse, >> that's correct. to the PAAB lane. >> Yep. >> So, what's the overall budget impact to this? And is this an impetus because we could not find positions here? You know, because on the offset, you know, this kind of work is much less demanding, let's say, than what's an emergency room. I I I would leave Miss Chung to kind of weigh in on that. um and could be, you know, accepted by people who necessarily can't keep up with that kind of, you know, u demand, right? And we have the same issues, right, with the education staff that we're not able to

132just move that over. So, what is it that is the is it a law that it has to be an RN? Could it be uh what is the are the other options like an LPN? No, I would say it needs to be an RN. >> Our school nurses can be an LPN. Uh we're really looking with there are increasing demands on our nurses with the the medical situations that they're they're handling for our students um and also with uh legislation. And so we are we're really looking for someone too who can provide some supervision and oversight uh for for that position. But our school nurses are required to be an LPN or an RN. And I would say if you look at the job descriptions, there's there's a documentation component that actually um you know

133is at a level as far as reimbursements through Medicaid uh that would be of you know of significance if they were not done correctly. As far as that is a funding source that helps self-fund part of this. Um, in the short time that I've been um, down in HR, I know that it has been very challenging to fill nursing positions um, at the rate of pay where we have because the market just is it's I mean we run into a similar issue with some of our other professionals in the instructional lanes. Um, so uh, this doesn't totally alleviate, you know, the market pressure. Um, but it brings it closer to being able to, you know, hire folks um, uh, that would compete with the private sector. Um, yeah, and you're right. I mean, if you

134look at the ESC school lane, um, as far as the nurse, it it mimics the the school year. So, if you know, there's somebody that, uh, wants the holidays and to stay home with their family, there is the added benefit for that. Um but um that's that still doesn't overcome some of the compensation issues we have. And as far as the the district RN a big the big piece on that is when we started looking at okay if we start filling our substit um when our nurses are out throughout the year without the snap nurses now uh we're going to incur significant cost and substitute staffing companies for these nurses and so you know um pay Peter pay Paul one way or the other we're going to have to pay for it. So this is

135just this this uh salary because then on top of that, right, we have to do the social security kick in and um do they have retirement benefits through us? Is there >> they're a full employee, >> right? >> Um so what is the total like uh budget uh projection impact on this? >> This the salary cost for the shift with our current school nurses would be about $20,000 plus benefits. I don't know if you go ball >> per headcount per No, that would all all in for all of our employees. Yeah. So, it would be um around $2,000 in salary per employee for the school nurse shift >> per year. >> For per year. Yep. For the district uh nurse position. Um you know, kind of depending on where they land on the lane, that

136would be an an increase of $20,000 in in the starting. Um but again, as Mr. outlined we are paying um a high hourly rate for sub nurses as it stands right now. >> So I'm confused. So you're saying so we only have one district RN nurse because you're saying the impact would be 20,000. >> So what's Oh, that's separate. The ESC nurses are separate. That's your standard school nurse >> or >> and that's not part of this request because I saw that adjustment in the salary schedule too. >> That is within the 20,000. That's within the 20,000. Yes, that is part of the request. But what um yes, that's part of the request that we we shift the lane for our school and ESSE nurses, which we have a >> But if the if the

137budget offset for the RN is 20,000, >> so that's a to two different 20,000 that she >> No, we have two different positions. And yes, there is only one uh district nurse position that has never been able to be filled. We have posted for it multiple times. We've interviewed some applicants. No one has ever accepted it. Do and they have cited cited the >> Yeah, we've had multiple people back out at this hour. >> Yeah, I'll say I've I've actually heard that just you know people see it, they the pay for for that role. So, uh my question is okay, so the district nurse that that's a position that no one is working it yet, but we're trying to find someone. So you guys are trying to change the salary. We have nurses at every

138school that we know, an RN or an LPN. You mentioned that if someone called out instead of using the staffing agency, which I know is very expensive for any medical clinic, um this district nurse, are they a floater then as well? So I'm just trying to is that what they are or are they there to do administrative work? >> That's not their primary. being a floater would not be their primary. But >> but if someone called out at Benel, does that mean oh now they have to go oh tomorrow someone calls at Belair? So I'm just worried what if they become a floater nurse is that what which is fine. I'm just wondering I'm confused if it's >> it's part of the job. It's it would be absolutely part of the job. Um you know

139and uh uh let's say you know I were the floater nurse and I have to cover. I would use that as an opportunity to also I don't know maybe audit um their their um um you know Medicaid documents um as well as you know cover the school. So that's the justification for the higher salary band is that in addition to providing this coverage there are supervising training you yeah >> record checks all of those things they would be doing >> and it becomes more of an issue now because we have had support through the SNAP nor the SNAP nurses that we had health assistance in there with the nurses but now that's no longer >> we do not have that um funding anymore. more. Nor could we afford at our current um our current salary

140to bring those individuals on because their pay through that grant was higher than what our salary would would allow for. And so for us, we want to be able to one budget appropriately as well. And so this district nurse, a part of their role would also be able to as as necessary and as um available cover for any um uh absences that are at nurses at the different schools. That would allow for them to continue to do their work because they could continue to do the audit checks and things that are um necessary for them to do at the sites. Anyways, >> is the salary based off of union? Um, okay. Professional. They're not inse Okay. I'm just wondering if there's opportunity for a more for that role. I'm just I I mean that's a

141medical profession. I I don't know. I'm just for and then in floating in administrative and how does that >> Well, we we have very large schools as compared to the rest of the the state. Um I mean I've seen schools 600. We are schools that have thou. So that's a lot of a lot of ice packs, a lot of traffic flow on the low end. And then what you also said is in our on on our high usage, we have we have procedures that have to be done daily. And then um you know uh students with diabetes. >> We're not the we're not the clinic that we recall when we went through school. >> Absolutely. Like med they're providing medication. And we do have students that are on um med plans. So, it's definitely not

142equivalent to being on the floor, but we definitely like on a um you know, hospital floor. Uh but they are just not giving out band-aids. >> That that is correct. We have a lot of students that require tube feedings, catheter. >> No. And I'm saying more of more of an increase. That's what I'm saying. >> And we are seeing >> this more students with medical needs >> applicants. >> I think this is a start. Um I I want to just kind of bring back up something that I don't think the board was um necessarily interested in at the time is this. There are many different areas where this is an issue. Um which is why we made the recommendation around a salary study as an organization to identify where are all of our holes and

143what are what um what are our paths forward um in order to make sure that we are competitive. when we look around us in our different surrounding areas um uh for our salaries where individuals are within these lanes. So, this is a start. Should could it be more? Should it be more? I think you would agree and say yes, we would like to do that for all of our employees. Um but this is a start for us to be able to um do that. >> The position's been open for how long? >> The district position. >> We've pulled it from posting, but it's been open for about almost three years. I like I don't think it's study to be done for a nursing role like that. >> No, it doesn't for a nursing role, but

144when you keep digging into all of these, you'll see that it's for the nursing role and then it's for, you know, a director role and it's for a coordinator position. Uh, so it's a starting place. It is a starting place. >> Sorry for all the questions. I just >> No, no, this is the time. This is why why it's for >> I just had Yeah. I want to see the the experienced ER nurse, you know, who's going to know what to do and and to have that person, they have to be paid well. So, I hope we can do that for sure. >> Listen, if we will put we'll put it wherever you guys want it to be. >> I'm just saying there are >> I've heard several people talk about a nursing role, a

145district role, and it sounded really great, but now I know why I didn't hear anything more. You know, >> this is a start, >> okay? And if this start isn't where we need to be, we will be back. >> Okay. All right. So, we'll move on. 11.02. >> Okay. We got the board approval for personnel items. >> It is um first week of school. So, um we uh have uh and we will continue to add our personnel actions. But, um, I am I am very proud of of my staff and I'm proud of the hiring managers throughout the district at all the different levels. Um, I mean, uh, non-instructional, we've hired, uh, since June, 48 folks. Instructional, we've hired, you know, um, 68 folks. Uh, we still have, uh, some more work to do. Um,

146you know, as far as, um, classroom teachers, uh, we have eight. And if you've seen it across the weeks, it's not the same eight. every time we think we get close to full staff, somebody um you know lets us know that they've decided to move to Iowa uh and they were just waiting um to tell us. >> So um I would say that overall where we are with the hiring place is the best that it has been um post pandemic. >> So >> on these uh lists when you say new that's a new headcount because then it's having a budget impact. >> Yes. So um one of the previous discussions was that we are hiring based upon you know the butts and the seats and we're on day two. So um how did we essentially

147discover these numbers so quickly or did it come from I think we've instituted some annual registration process where you know it's not just one one and done it's you're doing it every year so we're getting a better sense of who's going to be present >> and and by the time it gets to you this is a lagging indicator right okay so for uh for example the coordinator VSSE has been in process while you see the budget impact now it has been in process beginning of summer >> right we approve that separate what you're not seeing what you're not seeing right now is you're not seeing new second grade teacher with budget impact okay because um that's a function of the staffing committee right now we're in the midst of of getting from the warm body

148count >> what we on the day one count where they actually go count heads on into seats and then um right through to the 10day count that range in there. We have a staffing committee where we do monitor each school and then so we're not adding um uh anyone in in that time frame or the couple weeks before unless you know there are issues like IEPs and prescribed numbers that happen in students with disability classrooms that would require us uh you know by different mandates and statutes to go ahead and have those positions. >> But that's why I'm asking the question. And I do see some teacher roles that say new um on >> for instance at Banell Elementary School there's a new yes >> and then we have some computer proctors um so that

149are new. So uh I I would be interested to know more about the addition of computer proctors at schools and what the capacity is of their role. But first, yeah, but now we've got two new that have uh budget impact. Um I'm aware of the student services. I'm aware of the ESC coordinator. And then there's a headcount for I Flagler with budget impact. >> I see the new I Flagler. I'm missing the new >> It's on the first page. The uh uh >> Oh, non instructional. I'm sorry. No, these are um >> appointment instructional chur Michelle Danell teacher 842025 new $49,451. >> These are self-contained teachers that were allocated based on incoming numbers um at the 2526 staffing allocation. >> Typically, aren't those listed as um like ASD teacher or ESC self-contain or something? We

150could I just went to the position control to confirm, but it is um they're self-contained teachers likely for >> our listed as new if the >> for a new student. >> These are new um to the 2526 staffing allocation. They were not on our 2425 allocation. So, it is a new it's it is a new allocation, but it's how we started the 2526 uh school year. >> Okay. So I I'm sorry I'm confused. We if we had students for these teachers, why are these considered new? But you're saying that these are ESC teachers. So are they additional ASD or ESC classrooms that weren't there before? But then how do we know we need them if we don't know the enrollment numbers for sure? >> We do have the enrollment numbers. These are new. They're new

151to the 2526 staffing allocation. They were not in place as self-contained needing these self-contained teachers um in 2425 school year and so they are new to that uh to bees position control >> and that's why I say it's a lagging indicator. So for example, it was allocated earlier but until it gets we advertise it and hire it and so until the actual you know new person shows up, you don't see it. So that could be a function of where we were with our budget for it at how when we set the initial budget at the end of the year. >> Also think of from this lens here of um some of these students um where they may be falling maybe students that um if they are um at any of our schools that were there

152already last year that we did not feel for based on when they became eligible, when they came into us. And so those those positions we did not add them in the 2425 school year but they were added based on the students because they were here with us. >> These are not individual paras. This is even a self-contained teacher has a self-contained class of smaller but you know students. So are we saying we've quadrupled the or you know >> doubled the number of self-contained classrooms the now in one year. Did that migrate from another school? Because that doesn't make sense to me that over over one school year, we would twofold have the number of self-contained. And if they were transferred from another school, why did that teacher not follow through to Benell to fill them?

153>> We did transfer an allocation from another school to Benell for self-contained and there was one additional one added. They did not. So Benell Elementary School did not previously have a self-contained setting and they do now. Um in addition to that under Benell is the prek um ESE student allocations and we have a significant increase in the number of those preK students and we did add additional um uh self-contained teachers >> and if they were at full staffing let's say at the end of the year um and um the allocation had gone from you know rimfire to panel um the position goes but it's still a new position. addition to the um and obviously if you look at the number of hires we've done um if I am a teacher currently at Rimfire I'm going

154to want to stay there and we have openings which we did then you'll stay in one of the different openings there and so it become a vacancy at panel >> but we've had transfers that we don't call it a new allocation so I'm not following that kind of logic in why this is considered new to the budget impact I mean if this This is just a me issue. I will these numbers do not what's the end result? What are we looking to to try? >> My end result is number one ensuring that um do we definitely have the student numbers. Number two, if we did have these student numbers and these were transfers essentially, what happened to those uh team members? Why did they not transfer with that program or students? Like if you if

155if why would you if this is self-contained, why would you have a triplicate of the number of self-contained classrooms in one in one school year unless you've moved a program? And then if you've moved that program, why are these new hires, new staffing uh folks as opposed to trans transferring the people from where they came? Let's grab the data from the staffing committee. Just the staffing committee has all the data to identify what has been added new based on and based on what and what is to make sure that what says new is new and why those things are new and we can provide that to you guys. Yeah, we can definitely provide that. We have all of that information. >> And and we don't have hardly any instances of of the unit moving and

156the personnel moving just because we have the attrition we have. Um, so you know the folks, >> but that's where I don't understand. If you have a a >> I'm certified. >> So Mr. Jones teaches in the 2024 five school year. We don't we don't allocate Mr. Jones. We allocate that teaching position. Mr. Jones leaves and then we get a replacement. That's not a new budget impact. That's a replacement. However, if you have Mr. Jones and now Mrs. Smith now for 2526 school year comes in that is a new allocation for which you have a budget impact that's the way I interpret this data if that's not correct then that's my my misunderstanding >> and I guess the only place I would go with this is is the position control is by school okay so

157I have Mr. Jones here and he's teaching ASD at Rimfire. They lose this unit. Okay, it goes off of their position control. They have lost a unit, but now has gained a new position. Now, in in our mind, okay, this isn't really a new position. It just came from rifire, but it is a new position, but Mr. Jones um actually went to support facilitation uh here. So he didn't follow that that >> then I request an adjustment to our if it is in agreement with the rest of the board that this reporting then is not telling us what we as a board should not be focused on the microscopic elements of those transfers. What we're looking for is the health and balance sheet of the overall budget. So when I look at budget impact what

158I expect to see is what is the net delta? What's the change in the overall HR budget? Not from what did Banell increase or decrease. When I see these bit bug budget impact numbers, that to me spells we're now spending this amount more than last year. So my question is, if we don't have those students and our enrollment was down from last year, how are we balancing the two? Why am I adding now here uh $500,000 worth of new staffing? >> So, do you have enough information to pro to answer these questions? Send us all answers? >> Absolutely. You can definitely send that out to the entire board. >> And what is um teacher special assignment again? Is that can you remind me? teacher on special assignment is a yeah >> it's a special assignment

159teacher anywhere from a dean to a testing coordinator to you know um any teacher above the level of uh classroom teacher or a sport facilitation it's a teacher on an assignment >> they don't have a roster classroom okay >> all right so thank you very much that uh completes our work for today and uh that will lead us Now to um public comment. >> No public comment. >> Okay. So we'll close public comment and uh that'll lead us to board member requests. >> Board member request. >> Uh just one quick and I spoke to Mr. Moore about this. I had someone email um so I can't take the credit but a wonderful idea about a meet and greet with your bus drivers specifically potentially uh ESE drivers or aids uh to assist with bus drivers

160to get to know the families the children um similar to when meet and greet with your teacher. So I know it can't happen right away but somehow to workshop u like >> so that's not to workshop right that is for us >> for the back end like the district staff to see if this could be a possibility uh >> so that is an idea for us for our implementation >> I would just appreciate on this area this is this area of board member request is is an area where each board member if there's an item they want to bring back at a future date uh to add to that list >> for a future workshop. Um, you know, obviously you've already expressed that with superintendent. You can also use your public I mean your your

161closing comment to share these uh this time this specific one. We just want to focus it so that the board the the uh the district >> workshop only items. >> Yeah. If we don't have any then we don't have any. We always move on. Yeah. >> Nope. No requests then. >> I actually do have something to just just to think about. Um I don't know when Mr. where ours is leaving us. And I know Guardian is in the future. Um, but I'm sure that's something we want to pull forward for. So, >> we have that on the list, don't we? >> Yes, we we do. Yes, we we do have that. And it was the in transparency, we're supposed to have that conversation um today. Um that has been shifted to September. >> I wish

162it was sooner, but um you know, we may >> we will prioritize. Did we we have uh some there originally was some scheduling conflicts the sheriff >> and we've been in communication with the um sheriff about a a date for for September. Okay. >> Yes. >> All right. So, I'll work through that there. Um so, then that we'll move on to uh closing comments. >> I do have one request. Um I'm interested in exploring with our technology department um essentially a chatbot leveraging essentially like AI where we can preload it in order to give our community members answers to questions about student progression recommendation. So essentially you can go on if we loaded it with all the information about graduation requirements those things it would lessen the load on individuals um and uh provide an

163outlet where our uh students and parents can get accurate information um about their passing requirements, electives, progression plans, options, what do you need to do before you get in to get into ACE program or whatever. whatever it might be and uh make that student services uh department um a little bit more scalable. And so I would like to kind of have a discovery session where we look at what would is that something we can manage inhouse. Is that something that we would need to outsource for? >> Okay, >> got that. >> All right. Y very good. All right. And may may I ask a clarifying question for for that workshop? You your um what you would like to happen is for the board to discuss obviously the question that you were just asking, but you

164as a board will identify here are some things we would like for it to be able to do, >> but also is the board interested in spending the money it would require potentially if we were to outsource a consultant in order to set that up for us? All right. Uh, now closing comments. Mr. Mayor, any closing comments today? >> Yep. Wonderful first day of school. It was really great to have the board and superintendent and district staff at every campus yesterday. So, um, and I did want to just say Mr. Bush, uh, you know, with the carpets. So, I know we've spent a lot of money on carpets and I know public do not understand, you know, they see that that number, but I was at Belair Elementary for meet and greet. It is very

165noticeable of how wonderful and beautiful they look. Uh the money is going to really great products. Uh it brand new. So, thank you so much. I just wanted to give plant services and let the community know like this uh maintenance program that they're doing. The projects are great. Uh also uh transportation. I know we've had, you know, we're always going to have questions. You know, one day is school down. Today is number two. So, I just encourage community member or parents, any questions you have or you think may have happened or didn't happen, you know, we're here to assist and direct you. But just send an email and, you know, we can hopefully get you with the right person or ask the teacher uh directly. Um, you know, just we're all on the same team

166and everyone's just going to get better every day. So, just communicate wisely and so we can help you and assist you. So, thank you all. Have a wonderful first week. >> Yeah. Um the energy and uh was palpable on the first day. Um I wasn't able to attend every uh walkth through, but I'm uh planning on joining a couple additional schools later in the week as well. But Indian Trails, I'm sorry, not Indian Trails, Buddy Taylor and FPC. It was really great. Students uh while they may not admit it, I think they were a little happy and excited about coming back. Uh but uh beyond that, I do appreciate the community members as well. Um the service at uh Methodist Church was um had some very uh appropriate messaging in terms of students, take this

167opportunity to make your mark, take advantage, set the set the um example of what you're going to be proud to to be in five and 10 years. and as well with the kickoff uh for our staff and faculty that we had at um FPC led by uh Miss Moore and her administrative team. Not only did it celebrate uh the coming back together as our Flaggler family uh and uh really revved everybody up for a new year, um she strategically shared why our mission and vision matter, how we exemplify our mission and vision, and to break down those 25 points to get to the A for an attainable two points per uh team member that it it really makes it feasible and setting that expectation uh uh of of the year. So I thought it was

168well done and uh well received um by everybody. So I appreciate that. Thank you. >> Um yeah, great first day. I just want to thank um staff and teachers um just it's always so great to see the community come together and get everybody off on the first day. It's just such a fun event and that's part of the fun of getting to be on the board and see all that happening. Um, and also just a thank you to to Mr. Foley and Miss Henderson. They were working very hard yesterday >> getting the messaging out. Um, I'm just glad to see that that we create our own narrative. Um, getting our own message out there. So, it was a really nice day. Thanks. >> Yes. And I echo uh the comments of my colleagues here. It

169was a great day. I'm grateful for uh everybody on the organ organization and our leadership team that was out to to cheer everybody on on the first day and and uh also for this board. I will tell the public, you know, we have a very engaged board and uh not only in the welcome back uh and um yesterday the first day of school, we all have also busy schedules outside of our school board work, but everybody tried to make a way to get here and and be part of that. And uh just uh very proud of all of our um building leaders and faculty and staff. it, you know, everything every school we went to, I'm sure in their minds everything could always be better, but from an outsider looking in, it looked like things

170were root were going smooth, right? So, kudos to them on on getting everybody uh launched for the 25 26 school year. >> One more. >> Sure. And >> um and and thank you to Banell uh Police Department also because I know they don't really have to be out there, but they are. So, also just again community effort, everybody out there. >> Yeah. And if you saw my early morning video at the bus depot, uh Don Foley uh did that as well, and he gave me a new nickname. It was one take will. I got that one one take. One take. >> No editing there. >> All right. And that's um Superintendent Moore. >> Um welcome back to our students. Welcome back to our faculty and staff. I agree last week was extremely exciting with our

171welcome back kickoff for our instructional staff. Um what I also love is that that message that we gave to our instructional staff. Um we will in the next couple weeks have given it to our entire organization. And so if you're in plant services, they heard the same message. Transportation, everybody heard the same message because we want to ensure that everyone knows we're all working towards the same goal. And it does not matter where you are within the organization, what your role is within the organization. All of it is critical for us to get to um what our vision and our mission says as well as our guiding principles, the behaviors that we exe exhibit. But if we want to hit those 25 points, we need everybody in the organization really uh moving forward with that.

172So just want to say welcome back. I want to say to um our families um our community as well, transportation, we get lots of calls from people saying I was late to work because traffic was backed up and the first week um sometimes the first two weeks is going to be busy. Lots of cars, lots of our students on the road um as well as our transportation. Um but be patient with us. If there's something that's a safety concern or something you want us to consider, please contact us. um you can go on to our website and under contact us and it will send it to the appropriate department if there is an area that you want us to address. It was a great day one. Um today was also a great day two and

173I know great day three will be even better. I am so excited to um just be back and I want to just say in my in my last few seconds is uh I sent out a message to our staff around um um the starfish story if you've ever heard the starfish story. But really what that spoke to me as for our guiding principles is really around commitment to individual needs. There are 13,000 plus students, but they're all individuals, and I want to ensure that we are working with them as individuals to ensure that they're all able to reach their maximum potential. It's going to be a great year here with Flaggler schools, and we look forward to seeing you guys out and about in schools and in the community. >> All right, this uh meeting

174is adjourned.