001good evening I would like to welcome people to the Atlanta Community School District uh School Board multiple meetings in a row uh we're gonna start out with the public hearing um on the proposed tax levy and then we're going to have a very brief special meeting and followed by our regular school board work session um during which we'll be hearing from from our um master plan uh Team from svpa so we're going to start out with the public hearing um can we have the roll call Jody Goodridge here Jenny Jordan yes Josh McLaren yes Laura mlan yes chrisy P yes I think um we need to approve the agenda for tonight and there's going to be an amendment to that agenda that was published we're only going to be having public comment regarding the proposed
002tax levy uh there will be no other items on the agenda for tonight so if I could have a motion to approve that agenda I still move second okay Jenny yes Josh yes Laura yes chy yes Jody yes okay so this public hearing is part of the district's certified budget process um there was a notice that was mailed out to all residents um showing the max maximum potential property taxes the district would adopt as part of our certified budget which will be adopted by April 30th um board secretary did we have any written comments we did not have any written comments okay at this time if anyone is here and would like to address the group regarding the proposed tax levy um I'd welcome you to the podium yes ready I didn't know if anybody
003else was well good evening my name is Barbara stened I am a property owner as well as a business owner as well as a resident of almost 36 years of the talent of Atlantic well it must be Groundhog's Day again last year your governing body held the same meeting just like today to increase our taxes I know I voted for a tax increase to make this building possible way back when it was being proposed I did support it so I just don't nayay everything I significantly protested last year as I'm doing again the same this year for the increase for our supposed proposed tax increase and I say that tongue and cheek because it'll probably go through um my property and other properties taxes have been escalating over the decades there are already too many
004taxes burdening the residents of Atlantic and Cass County we have to pay state sales tax on everything except raw groceries we pay local option sales tax there's a lodging tax there's a Department of Transportation tax there are fuel taxes there's utility taxes and here's a breakdown of some of the utility taxes that I have found there's local and state sales tax on the utilities that an individual uses or a family or whatever energy efficient programs charge that's a tax a franch franchise fee tax regulatory recovery fee tax there's a second local sales tax a second state St sales tax a local e 911 Tax and Iowa dual party relay tax a federal Universal service fund tax we also have a storm waterer tax that's escalating yes there's the employment taxes of federal and state income
005taxes there's the Social Security tax the Medicare cap tax the capital gains tax and then you've got death and inheritance taxes according to the United States Census Bureau the P the population of Atlantic has been steadily declining I've only been in town almost 36 years so I started in 1980s and according to the census the population in 1980 was 7,516 as of 2022 the population is now 6,770 people the state of Iowa has gained 23,7 people and that was from 2023 to 2024 our state's population as of 2022 was 3 million 20200 820 people the state's growing how come Atlantic is not growing why is Atlantic losing residents are we losing students as well if we are where's the where is the money being spent as of recently very recently there should be some money
006in your budget now that Dei has been outlawed you know I I just had a meeting not very long ago maybe an hour or two ago the way to solve spending problems is not to overburden current taxpayers with more taxes it is to do better economic Economic Development our leaders have to invite solid businesses with good paying jobs into our town increase the availability of housing at all levels starting at with affordable homes and going up the scale support our local existing businesses and support local tourism activ activities which invite more people to Atlantic property tax relief is being discussed at the state level but families and individuals face many challenges including the cost of living increasing the burdens of higher taxes should not be another obstacle to overcome the policy of tax and spend
007must be replaced with common sense approach of living within your means families people living on fixed incomes and businesses just to name a few have to observe this philosophy we are not April April Fools and once taxes are instituted they are never retired they're just increased thank you for your time thank you is there anyone else who would like to address the board on the issue of property tax ly what the property tax ly that's very short my name is laori I live out the country planning um the population in C County in 2024 was 13,24 people um just for instance um the a Western Community College for taxpayers that is $146 per taxpayer um our property tax is one at 27% where we live um uh I don't know who's doing I know if
008I'm allowed to ask a question or not um but who is doing the property um evaluations what compan with that Vanguard yeah and that's through the assessors assessor um I have not heard good things about van card State Street or Black Rock any of them um they own a lot kind of take over everything and that's my concern too thank you thank you is there anyone else who would like to speak on the issue of the property tax l hearing none I will take a motion toj move second public hearing ad JNS at 6:41 we need to vote okay right thank you to those of you who uh who SP okay at this point we will be convening um our Atlanta Community distri Community School District special meeting and this is just uh a special
009agenda for a a brief uh couple of items so I will take a roll call Thor mlan yes Christy felen yes Jody Goodridge yes Jenny Jordan yes Josh mlar yes um this agenda also needs to be amended uh we are going to be including a public comment session section uh right after we approve the agenda and before we move on to our action items and by the way those action items can be U moved by consent if if the motion or would like to do so so can I have a motion to approve that agenda appr the agenda as amended or I moved to approve the agenda as amended second okay Christie yes Jody yes Jenny yes Josh yes Laura yes um at this time we will have public comment uh are there any members
010of the community that wish to address the board on any matter yes my name is uh Frank sire I've been a resident in Atlantic for just shy of 30 years now had a couple kids graduate from the school here and I'm currently raising my grand son who is a freshman here in the high school and uh we had a and couple weeks ago I had a parent teacher conference with one of his teachers at 8:00 a.m. up here in the morning and I just I drove up parked out there in a visitor slot and needless to say I walked into the school there was no presence of any administration at the door I me know at 8:00 I understand everything locks up all the schools are locked after 8:00 you have to be buzzed in
011but I'm trying to point out that I walked into the school from at at 10 minutes to 8 there is there I think at this day in time we should have some kind of a police presence or Administration presence or something like that at the front door at this school and the middle school both and I understand there's a re St off officer coming on board but we had from an hour from here just a year ago they they had something at Perry High School that happened at 7:30 in the morning but they just walked in there was there was no presence of any police or anything in the area and after an incident like that I'm sure we had police presence up here for a couple months every morning and now all of a
012sudden it's been pushed off to the you know back burner as Everything is Everything is safe so that's my concern is you know that half hour in the morning I think we should have a police officer just sitting in his Cruiser or set out at the end of the street I mean the uh the dispatchers down there told me the they are very they're pretty busy with you know um issues down at Washington because of uh all the traffic concerns at Washington they're busy in the morning so he could set up here for four mornings you know three or four mornings nobody knows what his schedule is nobody know and and just show up set out here and just be a presence so you know anybody with any nefarious ideas will think twice you know
013that's my biggest concern is after everything that's happened around this country for the last 10 years or 20 years in school systems that we do not have some kind of some kind of uh deterrent at our front door right now you know it just it just blows me away that there's nothing there's nothing to stop somebody somebody with bad ideas thank you very much just trying to uh get this message out you know I feel it's that people need to know that we're not as a school system we should do better for our students thank you is there anyone else who would like to address the board thank you so um our action items for this evening are it looks like there's three certified pictures that have uh gone through the process and just require
014board approval of their hire I move we approve these hires as a consent agenda item okay Jody yes Jenny yes Josh yes Laura yes CHR yes thank you uh at this point I'll take the motion to adjourn so move all in favor I thank you um the school board special meeting is adjourned uh and uh take a moment to breathe as we move into our Atlanta Community School District Schoolboard work session uh can I have the roll call Christy bellet yes Jody Goodridge yes Jenny Jordan yes Josh McLaren yes La mlan yes okay so the agenda for this is really to um talk with uh sbpa their team is here and to go over some of the uh Master planning ideas that they've brought before this board so I'll take a motion to approve that
015agenda approve agenda okay Jody yes Jenny yes Josh yes Laura yes chrisy yes excellent okay we're now moving forward thank you good evening vus baring with svpa I think most of us have all met um also have Damien spilman he's a senior project architect with our firm as well and he's helping out on this you may get some duplicate information that's okay absolutely you guys want I'll stand over absolutely I do would you like them it's well there's all kinds of cords but none of them look like I hang out on the Riser get all right just kind of give a little overview of some of the activities we've been working on and then we get the all the technology dial in walk through some really high level master plan Concepts um we've defined a
016leadership committee it's mostly all of the principles administrators maintenance folks and we've met with them several times now um we started with some of the just the initial what's on your wish list and we brought that to this board uh two months ago to kind of go over here's here's what we're hearing from the team um we've had some follow-up meetings with them to start to hone in on some of those desired priorities for the master plan um and then we've also strategized when we met last we talked a little bit about potential funding streams for the project um potentially a general obligation Bond referendum is one funding source um and then as well as options for how you might use the sales tax that comes in in your P funding so we talked a
017little bit about um the fact that you may have some projects that fall in what I would call the bucket of routine maintenance ongoing P sales tax things that you can the district usually uses those funds for and then we would start to identify maybe other items that are more of a these are on the the higher end of the wish list these might be things that we start to get some po estimates and and do some prioritization um if you are interested in looking at a bond uh to fund some more of the significant project so we worked with the Estus team and Facilities group to kind of break out those maintenance that bucket of money so we'll walk through a spreadsheet on that and then we've identified a list um of potential projects
018that we're calling you know the bigger ideas and we've started to get some feedback on how those might rank in terms of hey that's a really top critical priority for us we really think we want to try to accomplish that goal or maybe that's a it's a wish list or a medium priority that you know if we have the money great if not that's maybe something that's not as high in our list so we will walk through I think we'll walk through some plan Concepts first and then we'll go over right we handed out this list that's been just kind of it's been an ongoing list of things that we've been developing through these series of meetings and then last item I want to talk about is kind of where we are in the process
019and what the timeline moving forward looks likeing some slight adjustments to that based on the the initial one that we handed out we still tracking along you know very well in terms of our our goals for getting through this master planning process we did so look like we are dialed in on technology y this big as you can see that okay and then we've got we've got PDFs of this too if you guys want those out so one of the things that we were struck by when we did our initial tours was the Washington Elementary um has some much over sections that you know they they were they they were noticeable that they you know got have larger class sizes coming in at those lower grade levels there's overcrowding construction at that that age wasn't
020anticipating the curriculum that you have today with different special programs and so forth so one of the ideas that that came through those planning meetings was looking at doing um a new addition or major renovation in Washington so what we've come up with is looking at a potential um building addition to the West I think be kind of challenged us at one of our meetings like don't don't just think about what's there today and not take full advantage of it so we we had some earlier Concepts that put things kind of back where they were and and really preserve that parking lot this idea I think has some Merit in that this would likely be a phase project so this West Edition would connect to the building at that that existing exterior door there and
021would allow you to build enough classrooms to accommodate all of the kindergarteners and the first graders so we've got um I believe it was six sections of each grade level um and this would be a little bit lighter touch on the building in terms of where it would need to connect so the idea would be is you create a construction zone and build that building first then you have a place for those kids when you want to come back in and do major remodel or replacement of those 1950s buildings sections of the building so this again is very high level it's Master planning so don't take it as this is you know the final design but it just as an idea of what it fit um we've created a little bit of variation in the
022plan so that there are some spaces that you might have small group meetings one of the things we heard it's nice to have a spot if you need to take four kids or six kids and go to a special program and not just have them go out and sit in the hall so the idea has each of these PODS of rooms has access whether it be from the corridor or internally from the classroom that you can say you can go out and have a breakout session and and do that we've also looked at the idea of maybe having some areas or Nooks that are open to the cordor that again you could have a Furniture solution that allows kids to go out and have a a small group discussion or parent or what so that's
023just a sets an idea and then we've accommodated some square footage that's beyond what you might have today in terms of just a a narrow hallway with classrooms on either side this also has some other support spaces some some square footage aligned for special ed or special programs you know Ela ELP if you have resource rooms that you need all those sorts of things and then it's got one larger Flex use room that could be for swing f as programs change over time that multi-purpose large room gives you some some flexibility the other thing that I think is a positive with this is it gives an opportunity to relocate the pl protected Zone in terms of exposure to the north winds Westerly winds and kind of sort of embraced by the building and little more
024protected so then the thought was after after this portion is up and there this would be uncomfortable for a year for sure there would need to be some temporary arrangements made but it would allow you to come in and take the the original tube wings of that the 1950s building potentially all the way down unless we could look at a very major remodel or just take them down and and replace them so this has a a secure entry that forces you into the reception before you get access to the building offes restrooms we like the idea of putting the the music room making that a little larger and making it adjacent to to the multi-purpose or gymnasium space then the other idea would be to have a separate separate the cafeteria from the gym um
025I think that's a challenge today is doing both of those programs trying to to do all the lunch periods and all the PE so this would give you a larger common cafeteria a we service kitchen that's off the receiving and then some other support spaces are and break you know teacher break room again some smaller um special ed type spaces the last item on here was and I I'm not sure where we'll land with the prek program you've got Spaceport now but there was some desire if there's room available could be master plan to have prek come over so we've got an addition there it's about 6,500 sare fet um there's enough space to accommodate five preschool rooms um so that's that may happen right off the bat it may happen as a future future
026option and so that would be an addition not a renovation that would that that's not existing um yeah our our thought is ideally you would take the both Wings the 1950s building completely down and re and rebuilding their place so this could this is somewhat close to where that footprint was it's a maybe you can kind of see it behind there there where they existing building okay so and then this would require moving the parking over to the to the east side um but I think we can replace and actually get you more than you have today this is showing an option of about I think it was pretty close to 197 stalls and again some ability to have a service Drive access to get back to the food deliveries or trash and services yeah
027this is show this is the best too right so you add entrance to the this is all of the stuff in white was the was it 19886 building the newer part of the building um some of the things we go over a lot of the complaints about some Ada code issues or lighting issues a lot of those were more prevalent for the older part of the building might have uh limited remodel necessary and the newer twostory part of that building so that's uh that's the latest thoughts on Washington which is probably the most significant part of this whole puzzle um there's a lot going on at the high school in terms of ideas as well but be curious to get your just initial reaction on where we're at with this and process behind it can
028you um tell me so what are we adding in terms of like how many classrooms or how much square footage or you know like what how much especially since like some of it's being taken down and then something else is being added yeah so the phase one piece of the the project that would be 20,700 square feet that would be all new square footage the replacement section would be just under 16,000 Square Fe that's fairly close to what that part of the build the old part of the building is so it's adding it's adding room for growth at those younger grade levels and when we what we heard is the concern is to make sure that those class sizes aren't pushing from 20 to 24 and it'd be nice to get those 20 or less
029um so I don't recall off the top of my head Beth you probably do those are get five rooms for each today yes and so we're we're expanding to six rooms for each um The Early Childhood or the prek again I think you have four over at that Early Learning Center this allows for five and we've had a lot of dialogue about you know where who's serving all the three and four year olds there's going to be some other opportunities with the new YMCA and so that feels like there's still some discussion to have on what's really the right number but this Le get you more than you have today and so when you talk about phases is the idea behind those phases that we're like fundraising like at each point and this is taking
030place over the course of years are you just saying it's phases in terms of practicality like while we're building here things have to shift here and you know more so the the latter little more in terms of um not having to find a place to house all of the kindergarteners and first grades for a whole year while we do the work yeah okay I my initial is it's hard for me to see us we just built that parking lot we just did that stuff then to come in with a bulldozer and get rid of it start all over that playground people would go the The Playground it yeah I that's just from I mean this is a great concept this is awesome if this was like a whole new building that kind of draws me
031back a little bit is the just the I I don't it's not a waste of money it's just it seems like a waste of money we just you know we and and I haven't heard I think that parking lot is working well I think it flows well I think the teachers are happier in the past and then I hate to just boom now we're gonna I don't yeah that's my initial you know it's a beautiful I appreciate the concept I appreciate the sequencing and I I do appreciate you have fresh eyes and not being married to anything like we are we look at it we go oh those were the only improvements we made to the building yeah my only thing is um I don't know if you guys have ever been lucky enough to
032watch drop off and pick up at Washington Elementary it's horrible and this is it's the same thing and I don't know if there's any way else to do it but that would be something I know the community would show a lot of interest in and it's looking is there some way we can improve the flow of pickup and drop off because it is bad it's so congested there and it's an improvement from what it was with the new driveways there I mean that would be a question I have it is changing the location of the parking lot you know does that impact anything there I don't know whether it does or not but and I don't depending on your um staff parking needs you know another study would be whether or not you you do
033some sort of a loop through you get cars in off the street do a loop through the parking lot um this is a very common I mean there's very few schools that don't have sort of a congestion issue morning and afternoon I know they I don't know that they've done it anymore and I don't want to speak for the the city guys but I I know when Dave Ericson was the chief he spent a lot of time up there watching and a lot of it is not a lot of it is the uh I get you have young kids you got to give them a hug off the school get your backpack and stuff like that so you have a car that sits for two minutes and they back everything up and I'm not saying
034you got to roll in hot and throw them out the door but a lot of that you know because just one person can just flow that baby all the way back to all of Street and then if you get one on all the street now you're back you know now you're back to 10th Street so I it is I know what you're saying but some of it is I don't want to say operator eror but but it will get backed up all the way to Olive and go past the four-way stop right there um fact of trying to drop kids off well and and part of that too that's the concerned with making an Attendance Center larger you know that I me we do some things in terms of Staffing as well and just um
035which you know is not um something we can't necessarily deal with but I'm interested like with preschool there and maybe they've got alternate times if they get out or something that you can kind of you know we could work around that would help alleviate that problem of having 600 kids in one Attendance Center you speak a little bit too I think you know some people might think oh so all you guys are doing you're going to tear up your new parking lot your new playground and all you're doing is adding a couple of classrooms could you talk about what would be some of the benefits of what we're gaining by having those spaces be newly constructed compared to like what we have right now yeah well couple of the priorities one of them was security
036the gentleman earlier was talking about security and that's a very important issue in today's school design so number one item I would say is it gets it gets you add your office space is woefully under sized for what we would design today in terms of your support staff so it gets you a properly sized um spot for administrators for parents to come in and check in to be forced to go into the office and check in before they're allowed to get into the school um the older part of the facility is very dated this the classrooms are they're reasonable size but they we would probably have them be a little bit larger than they are today I think what you what we heard from staff that was a big concern is a lack of space
037for special programs for resource rooms for special ed for tag you know all of those sorts of things that weren't as common in a school design back in the 1950s so we have whole series of spaces that aren't a lot of times we see storage rooms repurposed as a resource room so there's some of that going on here um we're also hearing some concern that the enrollment in the district is actually trending upward so um these are already very crowded and there's concern that you know at some point you're going to you know you're going to have class sizes of 24 kids to to squeeze into those rooms so getting to that sixth section I think is going to give you opportunity for future growth and for better instruction what's the um how was this
038design take what did our Washington people think of this design I know you don't I don't want you to speak for them but what was their overall well we actually we had we started with a concept that went over this way we thought well the parking lot parking lot's pretty new let's just stick with what we had um I think there was some positive suggestions and feedback about the importance of being able to do this logistically and try to get the building get some room to build um so long story short is that committee hasn't seen the plan as we haven't okay I just they're the ones that yeah I think the for us the big the big issue is you you're going to do this hopefully once and you've got a very limited site
039and yes is a you know did you put 300,000 I don't know what the number was did spent a few hundred, on some Paving and now you're going to do a $10 million long-term solution is it is it worth getting it where it might function a little better F us um can you kind of guess or project the the cost for us to for a year of schooling to offset location for uh the kindergarten wing of of students actually the kindergarten first grade so we might bring in Mobile classrooms something like that or yeah I don't know you know the cost of what that would be Temporaries for on mobiles classrooms or 12 dozen I mean certainly it's a possibility and and that I'm recollecting back to Cardinal Community School District and they they've been
040in Mobile's for 10 years at this point their their temporary solutions 10 years old there's some really functionable mobile units that that have some good learning environments in them I mean there's they range in a variety of costs obviously based on size but uh some of these are I wouldn't say just as good as any classroom from a brick and mortar standpoint but they're very functionable um so I think the learning environment could be very conducive for a short period of time for sure what's the cost uh I do not know the cost have you costed out a yeah we'll we'll look into the cost of those and see what those look like I mean I I know there's a variety of units out there uh from I've been up to Harland and they Ed
041in that classrooms out you know the uh mobile classrooms while they did their projects yeah it depends whether you have toilets in them whe you there's all and I would say too like you know something to consider since the the age of the students is so young the kindergarten and first the ones I'm thinking of in Cardinal those are fifth graders a little bit more mobile and a little bit more independent uh with the kindergarten and first graders I would certainly want to make sure that we secure the site around around the mobile units as well is you know appropriately so I know they for sidewalks they have to have uh water sewer um the longer you have of there they have have firearm Mobil a lot of going I think you be uh we'll
042look into what what some of those cost ranges would be and maybe somewhat of the code code so that might help kind of the board decide you know the parking lot or you know the cost of renting portables for yeah okay right we did a couple of projects in for Iowa City Schools they were converting their junior highs to middle school so they're bringing the sixth grade class in and they had they had a couple of 10 plexes and they kept having to move them as they sequence these projects and I want to say order of magnitude was like $400,000 to get the templex from one get it set up for that that site so that that obviously would vary depending on if you know you need a 12 wex or but order of magnitude
043it's not it's not $50,000 it's hundreds of thousands of dollars what's the time frame for like let's say that we said oh let's do this project if you wanted to do that K1 addition that way what's the time frame I'm gonna say that's I mean a building of that size is probably doable in a 12 to 15 month cycle so if you got a spring start you could probably be ready for a fall opening it's 20,000 square feet so you jump in and tell me if I'm no I think I think that's fair I mean just from a conceptual standpoint 12 to 15 months would be yeah I you probably have a six to n month design schedule to get get things ready to go you think that cafeteria would also be like a multi-purpose
044room we were Sarah Sarah was on she was in Mexico for spring break so she we came back said one thing I wondering about this plan would be be better to keep the cafeteria in the gym and do more of a multi-purpose or a new because I know the the teachers have talked you know when it's a snow day or it's rainy now do indoor recess for a day or series of days um kids need to get out run around or just have to play so be in your room for a day or more it's hard yeah I would I think there would be opportunity there and one of the challenges there is doing lunch and any PE required PE and then not having any flexible time around that so if you if you freed
045it up for lunch I think you've got it could be designed to be multiple morning or after use is that the same old gym or is that new that is the same old gym and the the old gym is part of the 1980s building Edition and then the art in the music room I noticed those are bigger spaces right now they are fit into just a regular classroom they got so much equipment and that music room is super tight and so as we're looking at newer facilities we're usually giving a little more space for music in our programs K classrooms have to be larger for square foot because of the requirements by state law not by state law I think it's more best practice okay we're usually and I don't recall exactly what we had
046on but we're usually 850 square feet to 900 for a general classroom and then in Garden classrooms sometimes we're pushing between 900 and 1,000 I like the playground on the South Side just because you know most of the school years is during the fall winter and spring it's the chilly months of our U seasons and so again just that protection from the north the West um and even security uh piece of it I mean we' fence it off um you'd have security at least three sides you know from people what uh one thing that I noticed that um and I'm curious if you had any conversations or ideas that that sloped area to the north of the building that is just there's not a kind way to deal with it I noticed you didn't build
047over it or do any it's still there in all it's glory what what can we do with that that's a big challenge because I mean this site doesn't have a lot of Elbow Room to consider different options because there is a there's a full story of drop in grade so you know I thought the idea of hey if if you're really trying to maximize what level ground you have and there's some flexibility on the tennis courts and I didn't realize how new the parking lot was we knew when we started like hey we like the parking lot someone El parking lot but it does it does give you it maximizes your opportunity to use the level ground that you have I don't think there's a great way I mean this is in the maintenance discussion
048of that re temper of retaining wall really needs to be addressed and then the grade really drops dramatically there so whether or not you looked at like hey let's go down and build down the lower level that's something we thought of but didn't you know it didn't seem as practical as trying to keep keep whatever we do up on the the more upper level level ground can you explain to me why I don't know anything about construction like why why is you said it wouldn't be as practical what would be some of the obstacles so what you have just just off the screen to the north there's a nice big flat area and we said that looks awesome let's we could do something down there that's where all of your geothermal Wells are that serve
049the whole campus now they're not under the some of them might be under the parking lot but it's it's a practice field right now so if you were to like hey let's do something down low then your access would need to be from the Middle School side and that parking I'm assuming is there you don't it's a nice siiz parking area but I'm assuming you wouldn't want to put all of the elementary traffic coming from the north side of the building rather than the South Side bus in the MD schol yeah it stays I mean it stays level to about right here and then it so I was glad that we were pushed to look at something more than just do what you did before and put it right back where it was I think
050there are some positives to it if we were to go to this plan um do you have to put the new parking lot in right away that's a good question um haven't thought through all of those Logistics just yet I mean there's going to be some substantial Logistics like how are you going to live with your office out of commission or your music room out of commission there's definitely still going to be some pain but it's not two full section the kids in classrooms it's more support functions parking could be at middle school for staff yes Park staff Middle School in which will be very popular I'm sure get that I do think we we need to really have you guys look at you know pick up drop off area because like everybody has had
051that experience with the cars and the buses that that's part of what that new parking lot and kind of just the the new traffic flow sought to alleviate and I I think it made it better it doesn't sound like it is entirely drop off got the teachers the teachers to par there I think if you did a loop there that might help a little bit even if you just put the the prek kits going one way from everybody else there's I mean one other scenario that I mean it's it seems like you've got you've got three lanes through that today and one's designated for buses and then you got parents that are you know you've got some Crossing traffic which isn't ideal you could potentially look at making the bus lane separate and really using
052everything from the curve back as parents can get in but they're not you know those other two lanes rather than Liv here down there right but you're your the none of that matters you can have 10 lanes there your problem is your pinch point because they can only come in one way on 14th Street so everybody's coming in one at a time so that's where it start it start it doesn't back up in those three lanes it starts to back up right on 14 Street when people are coming in and there's no way to how do you there's no way to eliminate that right you know it doesn't matter if you have a loop through every parking lot or you I mean we even looked at a road straight through number years ago you know
053straight through and down that Hill problems right in that bottom like I said earlier there this is a very common issue that's not always solved a lot of times the solution is how do we how do we train our parents to have the most efficient flow and how do we monitor it and are other ways to approve that here and even I mean vus is aware of everything to the west to the corner te up there to the West that's all School District property it just it just drops off like a rock here too goes right back up yeah and I don't know the hydrology but I feel like there's stor there's a lot of storm water management happening at the bottom of that Tri all right these are just these are these are ideas
054and they it's good to get your feedback and reaction and we'll push you to keep thinking about it group to keep thinking about it we'd like to get too our goal really is to just get to a master plan to give you options and prices whether or not that becomes the reality of what you decide to do it just gives you some ideas of how to address what some of the biggest concerns have been pointed out I really appreciate you talking about the limitations of the site because it helps me reset my expectations about you know what we're able to do because yeah it's a beautiful site but It's Tricky the Topography is really substantial yeah all right I'm going to take a little break and let Daman kind of walk through some of the
055stuff at Schuler in Middle School so at Scher not a not obvious not as much reconfiguration as we looked at at Washington we do have a there's a few rooms here um that we're kind of tased to look at from the committee uh the current wrestling room in this area and then the girls locker room so the intent or one of the one of the things we're looking at here is is really kind of maintaining that existing wrestling room but kind of taking out kind of actually expanding that a little bit into here and then you know taking that restroom out to give it more of a full rectangular feel so there's not Corners you know I know they put pads they got pads in there but um just kind of Li some so when
056we when we first started they said there's got to be a better use for those two locker rooms there only used once or twice a year recently one of them was repurposed for practice wrestling ER so if you haven't been in there it's they they went in and did a really nice job but it's wall to wall mats and pads and yeah that seemed to be sort of organically what those users said well this is what we would use more than some you know underutilized logarithms um that so then the girls Uh current girls locker room there was a need for maybe a larger meeting here area conference room so the option here was to kind of take that space and do a a kind of a larger meeting training room kind of right across
057from the uh main office there um and then I think with with every building kind of working in a mother's room into the buildings so there's an existing shower restroom here that's that was off of this office but there's a bunch of existing electrical panels in that room now um so the thought here was maybe Gra that space and put a door off the off the corridor there for mother's room um as well as you know the training room would have a couple doors off the corridor and then there was and then kind an asked to have another door for the wrestling room off the corridor um so that's kind of that space there uh one constraint here is just you know looking at uh you know walking through there you know from an accessibility
058standpoint that this current hallway is pretty much the door width so it doesn't really meet the 88 or accessibility you need a at least probably a minimum of five feet so there'd be some small reconfiguration there um and then we kind of took over this there's a current office there in a restroom um and we're kind of talking on the drive over here if they kind of moved an office down here but one thing with that restro you know if it's for the uh wrestling room there I mean there are there's a bank of restrooms right there as well so um we could either preserve that office in here and not maybe in the equipment where what's labeled equipment drying room here um and just kind of leave you know right we'll have to reconfigure
059it because we're taking moving a wall but um you know potentially that could stay just from an oper you know program standpoint from a you know you already have a bank at restom close to the rest of so and then part of the Sher there's been we me with the principal they kind of issues with the plumbing in there so we've got kind of slated for the you know kind of a I'd say major Renovations for both levels both every restroom lar just number one on I'll be happy I did not yeah and so overall when you guys looked at Scher it seemed like um like classroom space seemed sufficient you guys weren't you know clocking things that seem to be this is really needy or yeah they didn't really get I mean obviously the
060bathrooms are number one and then it was kind of looking at this space but they there wasn't a ton of I guess uh feedback or on the classroom size like they seem like to work for what they have um um we also it's kind of hard because it's in red but also reconfiguring the front lobby there from a secure entry so this is this one's pretty easy and straightforward because they're optimally located it's just getting the door where even though it has a north and a kind of a West entrance you'd be able to secure both of those I guess if that's right because you know you can come in right under the catwalk then you can come around you know I suppose it's probably I 5050 as to how many you oh really that
061many people use that I don't know I was asking I don't how many people go in each one but you know what I mean because you can go in the catwalk door or but I think during the school day I think you have to go to the other one to get busted I think that's they really try to no I I agree would be on access control and they'd be locked closed and after the school day starts and you'd have to go check in security flow over the Skywalk is a whole different in the Skywalk is another different discuss but hopefully you're secure by the time you're in getting access to that from either building right that's a good yeah I mean there's you'll see some other things for Schuler as far as well you
062know some updated finishes would be nice but they're really the the Food Service situation sharing with the middle school and the restrooms and better use of these really were kind of the top top ideas their needs that were there think one thing that I think the athletic direct he was looking into that in terms of just U football games like visitor locker rooms and things like that I think he was maybe gon to do a little homework on that in terms of if they figure out a way for both teams to use the Middle School loot rooms which we have slated as we we get to that but kind of um a little bit of renovation in there as well I think it was just trying to keep the team separated obiously it you know
063half time but so we got bused down there though I mean we got dressed here and rode a bus down there yeah I think like half like if they go in there at halftime well true I guess well then we would go in there at halftime and the other visiting team can just meet out on the field yeah I think our our thought was repurposing that uh West locker room for I mean the comment was we probably don't need that large of a meeting training room so maybe there's some other small group of support offices that brought brought up the discussion well maybe we need to preserve half of it for the shower changing um so there's going to be some discussion maybe that makes more sense at the middle school we don't P half
064of that space for those very few times at I think I'll Su that floor up jump the second floor it's not mucher just kind of highlighted again I took it out oh you took it out I did I put a note all three floors okay on all levels uh so the basement of the Middle School um it's quite quite a bit of discussion on that that spread room at the end that has the the exterior doors there um try to secure those and uh well actually in this scenario it's just probably just coming up with a better access control for that door I think there's also some concern about The Homeschool program and maybe that door gets left open or people are coming and going more frequently so between both of those doors there was
065a concern from the security standpoint that they're not quite as tight as a main entry point would be yes where look where the current home school is I think we've got that uh moving out of there so I think now the teacher comes out and has to go around and open the door for kids that school so so out it's kind of open and Clos quite a bit so and then adding a there's aest single inside of that as well so it's more you know contained inside of that space inste going out they do have you know right across the hall but all the middle schools had it's been renovated and updated so I mean a lot of the the beautiful building and it's been very well renovated so there's been more recent scope there
066and that's it probably won't need as much attention in this next round and the um again from a secure entry um it's a little messy but I mean we just kind of marked over the top of what's there but the idea is that they could again come into that main kind of vesu and then pass through into the the office and then come out with the elevator and again having a secure door here on access control so it's either as card readers and then usually we see it's on a timer you know some sort of time schedule so it's un locked at a certain time it automatically locks at you know 8 8:00 85 whatever schedule you set up that the only way to act get through there is with the card reader then I
067kind of mentioned that the locker rooms so these ones as well just from the accessibility I you can see how narrow that that hallway is doors require certain clearance around them that to come up to and you know engage the door or Engage The the handle to it so um we have just kind of boxed out we haven't really gotten in and maybe seen how those could lay out but I mean just in general there's on both of the the girls in the boys locker room just some accessibility things I think we're C looking at the you know overall the restrooms and showers things like that inside of those spaces again you have to figure out again from a football standpoint that happens four times a year how to separate it half time I mean
068this does have an exterior door so it's just a way to how you keep separated but um also what the girls lock room I think there was some existing storage cages that need to be re worked but pretty much just fed I think I think the lockers cover up one side of them so you can Ence you know move a locker or something and get inside the storage area but not a not a huge thing but just from a Storage security standpoint it's things lacking of so so one of the other concerns of both Schuler and middle school was the lunch program being a Sher and being pretty crowded and so there there was some discussion about we it would be great if we could have a nice big cafeteria Commons type space and you
069know the the kitchen there still is sized to be able to do all the production that you need um we did a little bit of studying and concepting of would would you fill in that courtyard with some big sort of Commons area um one of the concerns there is the buildings on the National Historic register and you know something in there is going to be a little bit awkward in terms of how I mean all four sides of that building and have that historic character to them so to drop like a glass box and that might serve a functional functional use but might might not um enhance or or support the character of the building so the daman's G to show another idea but the the magic button of let's just find a nice big
070cafeteria in that existing historic building was one that's more challenging yeah this in this space yeah when we did our ouro that was the concept yeah I had to look back and ask because there was some discrepancy or discussion about whether it was really on the National Historic reg yeah Dam did some research on you know sort of the guidelines there and we felt like there was there was enough there that maybe that's not the best path for us yeah and all and all sides of it are historical so I mean there's wording in there like if it's not a I don't know what the wording is an essential like doesn't add to the building then it's not as strict but every especially even for that courtyard I mean it's it's got great historical properties
071to it to go on there and try to fit something you can do it but it's just a little more you know challenging it's got a tie it's got a tie to the existing storic as but yeah I did find the actual application or the I read through it so thank you but so one option from a cafeteria standpoint we there's already work that needs to be done to the existing Skywalk just mostly from a mechanical standpoint Windows things like that so we we looking at that is potential is you know keeping that Skywalk connection but actually just widening it out and then providing a space almost for cafeteria Commons space so C if lunch is not going on they could you know it's more of a flex con social space so you can kind
072of see the dash I mean this is you know kind of the existing where the existing Skywalk is and then we're just kind of bumping uh down there to the South but you know obviously from a know existing kitchen serving area you know if they get their food they can either go out this door and get to there or potentially there are you know we may be able to do something here there already kind of some circulation space here where potentially that you could have a path there as well that would not be the accessible path but you're you're providing accessible path to it so um you know there's just maybe a couple options there to to do that and then they could also you know access well they could access it here too coming
073up the existing stairs but you know they came up the stairs they could get it to there as well so yeah this one's it's about 40,000 sare F feet so we're about you know 40 feet 4000 40 oh wow it's 40 feet deep yes 4,000 square feet had said one time semi kind of hit that that was something we were nervous about because that drive goes up a little bit we weren't sure we're driving semis under that or not I think if we did that that I'm worried we would if if they're not hitting today they would be more likely to hit the farther up the hill we go with that expansion we could make them go back out the west side yeah I just don't think people would think that they're semi obvious I
074think they normally would but I think because of the downgrade they were yeah I mean they would need some more study there might be a potential to you know you got what what is the purpose that we have regular R do we have food deliveries or things with the main Kitchens on the back side is youer well I understand but does it have to come in assembly or is other just don't know I've heard just a story that at one time yeah no I I school buses would fit okay their clearance is lower consider this was like like a wild like hey what if we just made a really cool comments bridge I think it sounds cool I do too the team the team really liked it and it will deserve some further study but
075it it could fit I don't know if you did the seating C there's like 248 tops there so it would it would provide kind of a fun space to be in and give you more overflow off of that so it's really close wouldn't even think about going make a 10 foot signs where you just don't even semi back in that think well sometimes you I mean you can put up a a warning device that's not like if you didn't get under the little bar that's sitting four feet in front of it you're not going to get under that so you're going to hit the warning device before you get it I know um Schuler had talked again Schuler is the elementary for five grades they don't have any access to the gym because of they
076so you're serving five grades of loction it takes over to that gym yeah I would think at a bare minimum it would give you at least the other half of the gym like if you could use half of the gym in this so I think they don't they wind up using both halves of the gym yeah that's huge yeah they put the curtain down for um sh Scher has lunch on one side and middle school has lunch on the other side and then when sh's done eating then they have PE on their side but still Middle School it just would get the middle school kids to a place to gather and congregate the morning because that's always been kind of a challenge right now they go to the old Auditorium and they uh waiting for
077well we'll we'll keep studying it hopefully we can find some old Graphics that would give us an idea if we're talking one foot of fall or three foot of fall in that 40 ft [Music] guess have too much too much topography around here all right so there's a lot of different thoughts going on at the high school um one of the things that we talked about with this group last time was there's a real desire to have some indoor practice Fieldhouse and expand the ability for different practices and you know tournaments and events that might go on so we've studied um three different options for a Fieldhouse so we had our first me meeting and we have the here Mr architect this is exactly what we want this is our dream we want an indoor
078track we want three courts we want wrestling a new fitness room so this this was a little closer to the wish I going to call it the wish list I mean it's a great list of things to prioritize and want to do but it may be a little bigger than your budget and this is more I would say sized towards a Collegiate type of Fieldhouse but again it's got a it's got an indoor six Lane crack surface um three ports the thought would be that um at least one of those courts would be Maple and be able to serve for JB games or other competitions the other the other two might be more of a multi-purpose or multi-use type of a surface so it could be you wouldn't have to be so careful not to
079mess up the wood floor if you wanted to do um indoor things that would normally not um we were looking at a connection off of the 200 Corridor there this is practice field it's one of the larger level it's not quite as much topography here but it's relative to where the geothermal wellfields are and where level ground was for something of this scale that's we felt like that was the place to do it now it's a little bit awkward because it's all the way on the west side of the building and you'd have have to go all the way down the 200 Corridor to get there but it could have its own separate entrance you know if you have events going on in a weekend like a tournament or something you wouldn't have to go
080in through the school to get there so it had some locker rooms some support spaces um all all together it totaled up to about 73,000 square feet so that's a pretty sizable so we we looked at some other press studies there's a there's kind of a neat facility up in Clear Lake that was added onto their high school that's a field housee and it's got a combination of wood floor and Alternative Floor and the and the the idea here was to take the two pts rotate them 90 90 degrees these by the way there was also request that these be more Collegiate sized for so 94t length instead of a typical high school for what you have in your current gym is 84 ft so these are larger ports wood surface and then we played
081with the idea of a lot of schools we're seeing want artificial turf space for other act indoor activities and practice activities so this is kind of half half for hard surface Port half for bur efficient Turf activities so band practice and other sporties group activities the turf's pretty flexible for that and then we looked at having um some track surfacing for spread practices so it's not giving you a full indoor track to practice on but it would give you opportunity in Implement weather or early season track to go in and do Sprint practices how long is that I don't know I think I'm gonna guess that it's pushing 100 yards I know the one and the other smaller one is like 60 to 70 yards this one was longer than it could you do something
082that uh like is like get elevated yeah sub type of walk I mean that give you more space yeah I think I mean we we've worked on several ym actually YMCA facilities a elev but that's more for a little bit more for people wanting to have a walking Service as opposed to Doo track practice the turns are sharp they're hard yeah so I have to ask because I'm Duff probably won't be happy what I just have a question because I'm a b guy I see the wrestling room if what's what would would we still have the wrestling room out here and a wrestling room here I mean we have the you know well I think there was there was some question of well now we have girls wrestling program do we need more space that's
083designated um Nam and I are have the opinion that you could continue to use the wrestling area that you have and maybe there's maybe it's not a whole another 4,000 foot room designated just wrestling but there's a space to I'm not opposed to it I just didn't I was thought well maybe maybe coach would want to be there because the wait room's there and they'd want to move their stuff there and then they would you know yeah so this this had uh additional wrestling space a weight room we when we talk about the high school we thought about adding some classrooms to free up some space in the tech EG Wing um restrooms and Locker space community room storage um this this version gets you from 73,000 Ft down to 52,000 ft and that doesn't
084have any external access it has external access right this is the so if you zoom out it it would have good access to this you know there would be obviously some sidewalks and a entry pluse to get you from that public parking to I knew one of the questions would be you know if we were hosting a tournament volleyball basketball wrestling from one gym or even to the common to this new uh Fieldhouse you know that long quarter yeah remember being asking that I do yeah it was that Dimension was that 100 that string went from well from our first option which would be pretty similar to this option but down that hallway was that 34 45 so more than the length of the football field again so once again we were cafeteria for the
085comments to that we were encouraged to think about other opportunities and think Beyond box because we figured the east side I mean it's pretty tight so the other option that we this is the most recent option that we've studied is all right if that makes the most sense of where it needs to be to be you know next to other athletic activities we would need to relocate the music programs so this this is me right now band inquir sit right here so the idea would be that you would build a new band inquire that would be off to the north side of the auditorium and then we would construct a more economical sized Fieldhouse so this this version is quite a bit smaller it's 27,000 so we've gone from 73,000 Square this is this is
086just what I would call a pre-engineered metal box or whatever um so this this fits you two standard High School ports they'd be the same and even for scale you mean you zoom up you can see how big this box is relative to your current competition gym it's still a big space so the idea here you could have one or two um pts designated for wood volleyball basketball type activities so these could switch back and forth as to whether not one wood and two multi-purpose flooring system options but this this area here again it could be striped for another practice ball practice basketball court volleyball court pickle ball courts it could be a space what we've shown is you could have the opportunity to maybe have some wrestling mat TS and when you need a
087designated girls wrestling space bring them down from the ceiling and you could have two more fullsize mats in this Fieldhouse it's much tighter on support space so there's a couple of smaller uh restrooms some changing rooms or locker rooms just for there's a group there that needs to go in and have a team room or changing room um some coach space and storage space so how big are those what about weight room it doesn't any it doesn't so we have another idea for that okay so how big are those locker rooms just to give me a sense for I want to say they're 4 500 square feet so they're they're not tiny but yeah yeah I mean that's like a 15 to 20 by 20 room I know they're smaller than they should be but
088again there's given take do you do we look at an option that gives you two courts instead of three and we give you more support space it's about 200 by 136 R and it fits it kind of fits obviously if you kind of it's pixelated but it gets you up into the parking lot so there would be some cost obviously associated with getting the drive moved and replacing some parking if you you know if you're short or need every parking stall you have we probably look going up in here and either having just head installed or a whole another double lane of parking up there to make that work so for the wait room we did not have enough room for that but we do have adequate room uh just to the south of that
089existing wrestling space and it's it's in a spot it's not a bad location relative to the other athletic programs and me right now that weight room lives up on top of those locker rooms so from a circulation standpoint it's close to the locker rooms close to the other athletic activities it's about little 5,300 Square fet so this scenario when you add you add the music you add the the wait room you pan up I wanted to say it was little over 40,000 square fet so we're going from 73,000 square foot version to a 53,000 foot version to a 41,000 version so obviously the same question why in the heck would you just music room's pretty nice why would we go a new now what's the long-term best layout for the facility does it make more
090sense to have that additional athletic Fieldhouse space adjacent to all the rest of the athletic space the building so both the elementary and the high school we were challenged by your team keep thinking of other options and so that that's really where this one came from where do you get into that that one from this one yeah so right now there's a hallway that takes you down here and there's a hall that takes you to those music rooms so this this Hall would get you I mean it's a little bit of a track to get to the band room more so than it is today but it still puts these functions whether you do band on one side or choir that's all you know could be determined but it it still keeps them adjacent to
091the auditorium which is a nice function to have those those programs next because a lot of times you know it's a musical performance that's going to happen in theing and then there would be a again a public entrance and you know whether there's some secure point to where hey we're having Community activity and we're opening up the Fieldhouse it could be completely separate and it's got its own entrance right up the par I I would question and just ask I would ask the question if we're touching some of that space adjacent to the auditorium if it makes sense to look at bumping out and making that Auditorium either wider or deeper you know if there's some and maybe that just gets into too much too many structural type things but that historically that our Auditorium
092has been undersized now maybe it maybe it's functioning well now but yeah the resizing of the auditorium it's not impossible but it's significantly more challenging just structural spans Acoustics yeah so some of the other things we can come back to the Fieldhouse one of the other big issues here if we go down to the low AER is the the concern there needs to be some separating of the welding program from the other Woods type trades you understand you've got a great Aviation program that not a lot of schools have and so the thought was to do some renovation keep all those programs here but take over some space to make some separation between welding activities and wood activities so that would displace a couple of classrooms um so one of our thoughts again this fourplex
093was to to replace those elsewhere and this could be for standard classrooms what we were showing was replacing it with two standard classrooms and then giving one that might be a larger there's some talk about what's education going to be in 20 or 30 years and what's the flexibility for different programs so this this is looking at more of a large group flex and then a little smaller sized special ed Flex type space the other idea that came out was it would be nice to have some more more social spaces for students or break up the corridors a little bit so we thought you know there's some internal classrooms here that if we wanted to we could create some some Gathering nodes at those intersections and make them a little more inviting so this this
094has two small group rooms and then give this would try to open that up as much that you could have a spot for students to to do activities or or whatnot the other side we had a medium conference room and the mother's room and then there was also request for a family style single use restroom it could be for staff or it could be if somebody's at a basketball game and has you know an elderly parent that needs assistant in the restroom or kid that needs changing so the mother's room and the single use restroom with adequate changing space were important things that they wanted to accomplish secure entry is another high priority this would might look at trying to create a small addition where you would have the ability to come from that existing
095bestest fuel directly into the office you know add another office area and have that check-in Zone just to force that that path of travel to get you into the office before you get into the building well just thinking through that area I mean one option I know that the maybe like the Gathering space for the auditorium right the queuing and everything everything I mean we that look at it but you know you can still get a secure entry maybe there's a way to create a more of a Lobby maybe in front of that Auditorium but if we're already kind of proposing to you know we need to take care of the secure entry but maybe there's a a way to create more space outside of the auditorium doors versus just a know 10 foot 12T
096Hall then you could put seating in that lobby area and then the last item that there was some discussion about was sounds like there's a desire to move the alternative school program and try to get it on this campus somewhere um so we looked at the option of doing an addition down here again this would we need that further discussion we we're looking at a similar Concept in another school and that program was around three to 4,000 square F feet had a couple of classrooms some some common space some office and support spaces so that was a thought that it's near parking it could have its own entrance but then if those students want to pick other horse opportunities they're they're at high school so it's kind of independent yet connected what does that when
097you're putting that Fieldhouse on that front portion there what's the construction material or have the well that's a good question I mean I'm assuming we would want to have this blend in with the school I mean it's I don't know I found it a little bit humorous this is a metal building and it just put a brick facade up on the side that faces the parking lot so whether this is a metal building with the decorated front facade as sort of the bare minimum or you want to look at doing something more substantial like a pre-cast you know like a pre-cast concrete structure that would have a more of a permanent durable look and could blend in school I would like to pre-cast look if I get the V but well and that's that's kind
098of why I'm asking I think the group that approached us was thinking oh we're putting a Fieldhouse we putting it out the back and it just looks like a a metal building a Fieldhouse it doesn't have to be terribly aesthetic because you don't see it until you drive up to it where if we're putting a Fieldhouse front and center that that definitely does yeah that's a great that's a great question and then it affects the cost too in terms of what you could do you you you gain aesthetic and and lose face so what going on with high school initial reactions questions or thoughts there well I told Josh before you guys came in that uh I was just sort of thought of the field houses yeah like a big sort of ugly metal box
099where sportsy things happen but looking at the pictures I'm like oh yeah no we need this like we we really especially the big one like the really big one so that's where I'm starting but I do appreciate the challenges and you know we'll want to think more about how that's going to impact things and how we can make it I mean isn't it true you guys that like there's like a desire in the community for there to be more gy spaced so I really I I like the idea of our Fieldhouse us really designing it in terms of how is this going to be accessible to the community to use while still keeping like our school building secure and I mean they will always say like the one thing you never big build big enough
100is your garage or your gym space you know and so I and I say that I with really appreciating the the thought of the flow and what if trying to rec created it as if you were just creating the building from the start now and making sure that make things make sense but I would be curious to balance that see what does it cost to do all of these additions everywhere versus one big utilitarian space sort of I think these guys have just started sort of dollar square foot numbers and that's where we're going to go next is if I mean if you tell us hey you guys are completely on the WR track start over then we'll do that before we have them spend time putting numbers to these if you're generally liking the
101ideas that have been presented we'll get the budget numbers and we've got we could talk orders of magnitude tonight but that next step is to refine these a little bit give them give us some time to all right this this is one scenario or what's the cost of just a music the fieldhouse in the weight room we've got some initial thoughts on what that might run you I think this option is actually going to be less expensive than this option just because it's 40,000 square feet instead of 70,000 square F feet um a little more fussy maybe needs to be a little higher quality but I think that I I don't like the Northeast one as much as I like the other two options off to the west and and I having me two kids
102still in high school and one that just graduated the the 300 50 foot or whatever and the separation and I I can probably speak for any of the I can't speak for the females but the any of my boys's friends or anything if they got one of those two facilities on the other side of the school they're not going to care they got to walk 350 feet to get in there you know probably more I'm thinking like grandparents and things and you're switching with mulle activity and that's I mean granted right now we get in a farm drive to another facility and and you know and if it's a off it's a weend you know you have the access there from that opposite parking lot you know it's well it doesn't hurt to look at
103multiple ideas and it's you I mean I think we've got I think we looked at enough options that these are pretty straightforward to start getting some budgets on and well and I really appreciate that you've given us options with like three basketball courts with a full track or you know having the the turf because I'm really hoping to hear feedback from people who are like yeah that's the thing that we would get the best use out of or that's the thing that we really like are lacking I mean and then I assume I'll just use the top left one for example you could you could keep that design with the track and and do good you do two basketball courts and the the third is Turf you know or some you know I mean that's
104yeah I want to hear from people about you know what do they think is is what we really need in that the biggest challenge with the track is the turning radius I mean if it really needs to be for track practice there's there's a lot of real estate here for those six Lanes I mean it's usable you could put some multisurface or some Turf in the in the D but it's it makes you're wasting some space it makes the footprint requirement substantially larger but then why six Go I mean you know those are we're not it's practice it be the one one comment came up you have two really awesome track facilities do you do you need to spend that much more money have that's the priority but there's a premium for it yeah thanks
105is there anything that remind us where the um geothermal fields are at so we kind from what I understand they're down in here okay all right we will keep moving along so the Early Learning Center um we don't have we haven't gotten drawings to put that in our Revit backgrounds but this this is a floor plan of the existing um daycare center that's adjacent to it I know there's been some dialogue back and forth of will that Attendance Center stay there for prek or is there some know as the Y builds their new facility and new daycare facilities is that something it's on school ground it's it's leas to the Y there's some Dynamics there that I think there should be some discussion about one one question was well if the school um acquires that
106facility and wants to use it to expand the prek or other Early Childhood programs is it is it a usable space it's set up for square footage is more so for daycare type activities different you know between toddlers one and two-y olds but there's an existing wall here that if that were removed it would give you 950 foot room which would be a nice size room for adding another 3K room to that campus um the other larger space that's there today is 750 you know I don't know if that it's big enough to do a TK program you guys call it TK or transitional kindergarten or Junior kindergarten Junior there's so many different names for um some and sometimes I don't know if those you you still have 20 20 transitional kindergarteners and when out
107more for 15 or so but that that 750 foot is a pretty nice size room and then these are smaller spaces they're just about 500 square foot each but that's still something that could be used as a flexible type space so I think you know we've got a scenario that looks at could you move K up to Washington that may be an night you know something that the principal would like long term to have everybody together it may push sort of what's doable on that site from a S or circulation parking traffic flow we've got a scenario that shows you could do it um those 3K classrooms are pretty nice I mean it's an older building but it's they're it's nice space and I I don't think that it's hey this is something we need
108to just definitely looking moving out of it continue to invest in updated news so that's that piece I'm not sure I'm F when you say are you talking about the old Lincoln building the Early Childhood those okay yeah thank you I wasn't sure whether you would we're still talking about the day right now those prek programs there's four rooms they're coming in prechool program yeah okay by so the do you know how large those rooms are because they're about the right size at the Early Learning Center the pre preschool classroom I don't but just from walking the building I'm guessing they're 850 to 950 they're they're nice rooms they have nice daylighting yeah yeah I'm just looking at you know the the current Wickman if we put those at 750 950 520 and 480 they're
109really under sized is there anything else we could do this I guess this is just a very restructuring I think would be substantial there's a there's a second level mezzanine and I haven't studied exactly where the structural supports are but I I think you're going to be far more limited you might be able to take some of this out but I I think the idea would be it's it's not optimal for you to have two or three or four more 900 foot pre rooms it's that's it doesn't fit that me it would give you a fifth option for a nice siiz room and then three other smaller spaces that you I'm not sure you would find the right use for but maybe you would is it maybe like a school type potential or another type
110of program or a central office there was some discussion about that it probably could fit central office and I think it could also it's I don't recall how large it is but it's probably in the right order of magnitude for an alternative school program I don't know if you want the alternative school in the 3K all hanging out at the same know is next program continues to interesting know it's just they feel good like for sped or small programs once again you separate them out of the building and and you have to almost look at something that needs to be separate right so then I think the last slide has question about the achievement Center um and we'll kind of transition over to theist PRI LED but one of the big things is what's the
111that building was a a great purchase in terms of in a lot of space but it's always kind of just been a what needs to be moved at any given time because we're out of space there's been some question you know it serves okay for central office it's not the optimal location for central office um I think there was some discussion about wanting to try to move the alternative school out of that space um it can be used for some flex and swing space I know you had to move kids in there when you had some construction going on at the middle schools so it was used as a to give you some Flex temporary solutions um so not a whole lot in our mind in terms of things that have to go on there
112I mean we could Al ultimately look at bringing the home school program over from the Middle School that might be a good fit if you if you are vacating the area for the alternative school this was the behavioral area and we thought that might remain as is got some pretty nice space um in the back that could be used for multi-purpose it could be you know one of the other options is what other sort of vocational training programs specialized programs might there be uh that might make sense in that building as well that was the purpose of purchasing the building you know we just have not because of Staffing just other things we've never got to it yeah it's a good idea to use this opportunity though to come back and think about that though
113if in an Ideal World if all the parts lined up and construction and however we go with our plan could you if you did move the alternative kids out there could you put your A1 there while you're building your you're building on at Washington so you don't have to spend $400,000 on Portables I mean I know it's could be an inconvenience any anyway but I know I'm just thinking if we move something out if we have room and we're trying to figure you know maybe I'm crazy I know when you had the Middle School fire and you got put some of the Middle School classes out there the Fire Marshall allow she said it was a one time thing you'd have to sprinkle the building and fire not we were kind of in an emergency
114situation a couple days before school started was like you know H and get it done I don't think they would have Grant it unless you really up traded and put ceilings and walls because then you're locking down your building you know then you're making more of permanent sture as far as so I'm GNA go through this a little bit quicker because you kind of got all the meat and potatoes with what was in the plans um but this is just a kind of a spreadsheet we're tracking and if there are things that you saw today that you think are a higher you know that's that must have we we've been through this once with the leadership Committee in terms of what might be considered considered of critical you know this is a really high priority
115for US versus just a high priority or medium priority um so at Washington I think you guys all have this but I think Damen can bring it up major renovation of replacement of the older area that's the the whole concept of this classroom Edition or taking down some of the older parts of the building that was a critical item secure secure entry and safety improvements and then additional space for larger class sizes and specials that are coming in so in our opinion the educational needs of Washington and the growth in the current space is a critical item to address um some restroom Renovations ada8 code upgrades new lighting were in the the yellow category a lot of these that are here if you replace the older part of the building are going to be mostly
116addressed so they may become less of an issue if you do the the scheme or some version of the scheme we talked about um refresh Interiors again I think that's probably more towards the older part of the building and then a fire sprinkler system um so I'm gonna go against my wisdom and throw out borders of magnitude highly help pull some numbers together uh today off of some of these Concepts so this is I know it's being recorded so I shouldn't do this but I just big picture like we're thinking that Elementary project is in the order of magnitude of$ 15 to20 million for the you know to do the new the new work and I have a feeling like as as we've met with the committee the two things that feel like they've big
117picture ideas that have risen a little bit above the others is addressing Washington and there's a big desire to get that Fieldhouse added at the high school and those are the two biggest ticket items on the the table so far schoer Elementary there was the secure entry Improvement that's going to be very straightforward at Schuler based on how it was built originally the bathrooms was the major priority bathrooms have a little bit higher cost to go in and do you know get the plumbing right and do a major refresh but that's I think three Banks of of restroom so it's not a it's not a 15 to 2020 million Endeavor there by any means um refresh the interior finishes was also yellow and then in the green were some of the Ada code upgrades playground
118improvements um fire sprinkler and new lighting was listed in the original assessment that esus did and I think it's a great idea if you have the funds to come in and sprinkle some of these buildings this one's not getting near as much renovation to it and so that's a you know that might be a you know order magnitude on trying to do the the lighting and the sprinklers might be1 to2 million if you because you want to do them together if you take all the ceilings down to get the sprinkler in that's when you have to put new ceilings in and you might as well do the lighting middle school again I think it's in pretty good shape based on a lot of the recent remodels there critical it I had listed was the secure
119entry improvements and addressing that basement level secure entry so the items at the middle school are really related to building security locker room Renovations the design for some cafeteria common study hall space and some other ada8 code upgrades those were listed as high priorities um and then a new weight room was listed as a medium priority jumping down to the high school the critical items were the Alternative High School relocation plan and I don't I was kind of under the impression there was going on about trying to do that soon like that was a an Endeavor that was underway that whether that's true or not we we just heard that that for some reason that was something you might be proceeding forri with and it was going to happen so that's why it was listed
120as critical uh secure entry and safety improvements was also a critical item then the high priority items we had um the Career Tech and boag improvements expand improve the fitness weight room uh single use restroom changing and mother's room that we talked about a little bit about some of those social and flex spaces and then refresh the interior finishes um you know I look back at the original um facility assessment was the order of magnitude on the the interior I know you brought that up last time but that interior remodel was pretty critical order magnitude there I think was in the mhood of three and a half to4 million it's a fairly large facility we're going to go do all the the finishes throughout and again as we moov down the the list the auditorium
121improvements shop door overhead some additional storage and then there was also some thought about we want to try to get the whole building sprinkled and and lights upgraded as well so those again those you know we're going to do the sprinkler and the lighting that kind of takes care of new new ceiling finishes here that's probably a two to three million doll ticket if you combine them both you know so high school stick High School the Fieldhouse costs I think those larger options like hey we want to have a track the 70 that's probably putting closer to $20 million um so between those two opt those bigger options and again I know this is being recorded but this is just to give you very rough idea scale you know those bigger options were probably in
122a 15 to20 million range smaller option you might be more in the 12 to5 million range so the sort of I think you could you could do a Fieldhouse for a very economical Fieldhouse for 10 million you could spend 20 million that gets us the achievements Early Learning big item at the Early Learning setting is is getting those restrooms remodeled getting the media compliant and some security upgrades there's um I know there's probably not a there's not a full-time office for somebody to buzz in and go in but at least some video surveillance in a better secure entry process there would be a high priority um there was and we mentioned it here there was some discussion is there a good potential future use for the daycare building and then the fire sprinkler system ad
123accessibility refresh interior new lighting those are all kind of similar to the other areas we talked about and the achievement Center uh again there's I don't know that we have a clear picture of exactly how you want to use that space um but there was some discussion like what what's the best long-term intentional use of that if it was for alternative um you know educational type programs so we've got some ideas there you know Define you know does the central office ultimately want to get back closer to the other attendance centers what's the needs for the alternative school are there specialized Career Academy programs that would make sense out there and then there was also some discussion about better space whether it be there or sprinkled throughout the other buildings for meeting rooms training rooms
124staff development and then I think we talked about the uh already talked about the yeah the Fieldhouse I mean I think the you know one option is if you do the wait room just as it's as its own addition it's not part of the Fieldhouse like in that other option you know I think that's in the order of a million and a half point6 million so it would be attached though like it would it would be a new construction add-on or well there was like when we did our tour there was concern that the weight room that's up on the upper level above the locker rooms was way too tight so ideally you built this beautiful new Fieldhouse and you've got your wa room this part of it if that's if you want to look
125at a second option of hey we can we can build a new weight room and we can put it right off of those locker rooms that was that was in that third concept and you could do that regardless of where you put the Fieldhouse so then the the last set of items um that are on here we broke out more of the maintenance ongoing maintenance cost issues um I don't think unless you want me to go through all of these time permitting um these were items that were on the list of things we discussed that really want to move to a a routine maintenance program I think bestus had talked about helping the district with as part of their know facility assessment process of helping you guys develop a 10-year maintenance plan so these items
126don't all necessarily have to happen some of them we know like replacing the roof at the high school it's already in your plant to do that um so at any rate these were the list of items and then again whether they're more shortterm three to five year five to 10 year time frame in the order of magnitude on costs so at at Washington we have about $1.3 Million worth of items Schuler and I don't know if I I don't know if I made a mistake when I this number jumped out of me and I thought maybe I forgot a couple zeros on it I'll double check that there's about 1 million um Middle School tuck point pointing some Auditorium stairwell plaster cage areas in the locker rooms A lot of these items were pretty pretty
127straightforward it was about 630,000 um High School I think it had it had the roof replacement which the budget estimate there was about 1.5 million and again I think that's that's one that's already in your planning for your your peple um we looked at you know if you did want to do the sprinkler system and lighting you can see that those those two together are about that in that $2 to3 million range that 2 and5 million Early Learning Center critical item there was getting those those restrooms remodeled and and accessible um trying to get some security improvements and then the other you know miscellaneous items for um accessibility door window upgrades refresh interiors that added up to about 924 th000 and then the achievement Center the list of possible items there was it was about
128um a million dollar can someone speak to the that's the first time hearing internet wireless access issues is that just at the achievement Center um someone had brought that up and just at times it's kind of glitchy the achievement Center I think some of the kids that were in some of those classes internet Sheed out daily our internet goes out and when it goes out then the phone since we're the main switchboard then we have to wait for everything to reboot and so phones are down at times security cameras go off and so then everything reboots and that's at least once a day some we don't know if it's just our corner of the building if there's not he's put some other wireless access in question or maybe I'm not sure on this where does
129our um access point come in for that fiber optics is it at the achievement Center first and then it goes to the other buildings where does it come in first don't know the that thank you I just not aware so I think that might be some of what we need to find out from Roger F Optics come in and you know where does it start from the adaa maybe that's where we're having struggling moments y because then it affects all the other buildings um and then the last item down at the next page was the Athletics there's some miscellaneous items for some hoops that will need to be replaced and some bleachers that would need to be replaced at some point and then at some point down the line again these are further down the
130road five 10 year time frame at some point we think the the wood floor um at the high school that again that's probably even more than 10 years I'm not sure how many times it's been sanded yet but that gives you some ideas on some of those standard replacement costs there at 600,000 so all of those items and again I don't think all of them need to be done but they're on the list of things that we discussed add up to about $1 million that's over a 10year period so I'd have to look back at our financing notes but I think from your pbal budget and your saate budget you know a million dollars a year is not something that's you would know off the top of your head is not something totally crazy if
131I could just note uh those figures that are in the uh three to five year and then uh five to 10 year that that does include uh inflationary cost expected inflationary cost uh and then would be inclusive of you know design fees and and permitting and things like that as a comprehensive package so some of those figures look a little high for today's numbers but going out seven to 10 years that's an estimated cost so we're trying we're trying to be conservative and and show what a what a maximum price might look like obviously anything less than that would be beneficial from a budgeting standpoint for the district so that I think I'd be happy to open it up for some any questions you have again I think our what our and we'll talk about
132it in the in the timeline our goal would be to try to take any feedback you have tonight or over the next week or so um and then try to make some any revisions we need to these high level documents that Estus is using to give give and give Kylie more than a day to do it um to to come back at the next step to say okay here's here's a list and you might have you might have $50 million worth of wish lists and we've talked about you know if if you are interested in doing a bond referendum there was some early on discussion at our last meeting with Travis about what's what's doable from trying not to have taxes go up too much and to preserve quite a bit of your your saved
133money and your P money I think the consensus of that hypothetical discussion was that $30 million range would still preserve a lot of your p and save money and so if that's the order of magnitude I mean it could be 20 million it could be 40 million but that's the ballpark that I think we've discussed so far so I think it would be very helpful to have numbers to this list of items and say all right if we picked our top five items we're 30 million and that's what we want to do or we we really really want seven items and it's 35 million so how is that doable or not doable so my hope again was to get your initial read on on sort of the feedback that's been given a lot of the
134things that are on here we talked about in this District I think has been talking about for several years is ideas that have been cooking but if you saw anything tonight that you're like hey I'm out let's let's rethink that or like last time hey you guys forgot about interor like you know if there's something you see that's missing please let us know move forward apologize if I talk too much well you had a lot of things to say um so I guess I start with just asking the board this is your chance to ask you know the the experts in the room if you had any questions from what we saw or the things they went over or any observations that you think they really need to know to take away with them I
135we need to determine if we're going to move prek or not because that makes a big difference in where our focus is I think don't you then all of a sudden that whole Space is open for something else yeah I was a little bit surprised um it sounded to me like you were saying our current um prek space at the Early Learning Center once we get those bathrooms renovated you thought they're actually pretty decent spaces the problem comes in if we need to add classrooms if we go to full day preschool for Rees and fours right or at least for fours and um and the the Ann Wickman space if we go into that that seemed like we could get one classroom out of it and the other ones would be small is that what
136you were saying yeah I think so I mean I think that the size and the quality and character of those rooms is nice it's a obviously a much older building and it you know is that a building that you want to continue to put new windows in and update systems and and maintain over the next you know is it is it going to be a good solution for you for the next five to 10 years and then your vision is to ultimately get the prek into a newer facility um versus hey if we can swing it let's try to get that moved sooner than later and try to get it over at Washington c and I think that I think the dollars and cents at the end of the day will help you guys make
137an informed decision of is that something we plan for five years down the road or 10 years down the road or is that something we're doing it let's do it now and do it right and do it at Washington can I ask and this can be an anybody question but is Schuler really fit two grades like it can't fit three grades okay it's really that's my opinion well you're there more more than anybody else well and there there were there was previous discussions and there's drawings for a two-story Edition you know on the end of that so that you could add a third you third grade over that was all that different but not in the current space we wouldn't be yeah we kind of toyed with that early on our discussions of do you
138add on to the East End of feler twostory Edition and that was discussed but not didn't kind of further further progress as a priv I mean one of the reasons why we talked about moving Early Learning over to Washington is just the fact that it's that there's the same leader over all those grades and all those programs and it would be really nice to have that Consolidated but I really took to heart the point about the bigger the Learning Center is the more we have problems with traffic you know having to worry about security and coordination of all kinds of things and like you put that much more pressure on I they're not eating lunch but they need you know recess spes a lot might be there all day yeah and then you you know
139you're putting more pressure on yeah right and you basically adding another full grade to that Washington SP yeah that seems like a lot but I liked Lisa why did you jump in and talk about putting um Administration into that space um didn't you say something about that like you were thinking of it would get you guys closer to the Learning Centers which feels like not directly involved with students yeah but the space that we're in could be maybe good space for CTE programs or other opportunities so it felt like and we are far removed from the rest of the campus and the new superintendent Johnson director Schmidt up at the school a lot um so we just need access to good internet and a computer for central office for the business side of the district
140so we just felt like if if if the Early Learning Center was an area that was underutilized if there was space there that we could be because we would be then closer to the rest of the campus and then our space that was created for us because of the fire um it was supposed to be a temporary kind of placement and we've we are making it work I mean by no means is it it doesn't work it's just it's a welding building feel on the outside and you walk up and you don't feel like you just reached the Atlantic district offices you um it's not good Landscaping there's not good signage there's it was never meant I think for us to be there permanently or that maybe was the original plan and maybe somewhere along
141the way it changed so if we were ever going to move us this seemed to be a time like you mentioned this is the time to do it I want to go back to preschool yeah I I agree with the whole idea of adding more classrooms to Washington is puts pressure on that building um I am concerned uh for the current preschool or our Lake building or the ELC whatever we call it it just it lacks we don't have any health program there we don't have any office no no princial no support no no support Fe them in the future how are you going to do that yeah so they in security there um you've got four teachers and that's it I I I and they're great teachers it's it's not that it's just they're
142their a building which as a school administrator I worry about just the safety I feel like I I would like them to be connected to to a building yeah it it's a very good point and it's also to me it it it brings to light the same type of thing if we move that central office out of the achievement center it's in my opinion it's the same concept of you don't have an on-site administrator there which to some degree the superintendent can kind of function as that now so it it's a similar situation that you've got the high school principal or whoever is overseeing those programs that are out there um so you know I don't know if that's a goal that this board wants to look at is how do we prevent having Islands
143out you know other places or what programs maybe we need to think the other way what programs function best as an island you know are we comfortable with an achievement or an alternative school being in that role or a home school or some sort of program separately functioning because um we're gonna have to find out what we're going to do with that space then if we don't have preschool there can you guys look at flow and drop off and pick up in that Washington building more that's a fair question I would also like to know if we did put preschool there and then take it up to 600 650 in your larger elementaries it's somewhere what's what how large is too large you know when when when does it become too much yeah I I
144mean the number that's in my head is get over 800 and it starts getting a little too large but that's just what's in my head where are we at then well we're at 550 575 right now at Washington school and have many kids are preschool so where it's gonna be there I mean a lot of that too relates to like specials I mean how do you get a thousand kids through ART music lunch you know all those sometimes you once you start to get that big you start to double up some of those special functions for the little the playground space playground space and yeah and how do you maybe it feels okay if it's kind of their own separate building attached you know or some sort of feel or separate and I don't know
145maybe that doesn't help it but if you have a separate entrance or driveway for preschool and other things but it's convenient for the administrator that she can be there or me you know very quickly you spent a lot of time talking about sort of what does the the three to four year old group look like and what's the right solution and it feels like there's challenges there there's opportunities there I think you know the wi is building new space for some of those programs and and to me it feels like some more discussion of sort of what's the big Community Vision for how how you serve those kids that have opportunities at some different locations to make sure those kids are getting the best solution and the best options available is there some collaboration that
146would better serve them or is it you you know you guys need five or six of your own pre care rooms and there's other three and four year old programming happening at other you know other locations in those decisions may have already been made but for as an outsider if we came in and said well seems like it would be good to just have some dialogue about what's what's the big combined picture for the community look like for serving three and foury old kids do you have Insight from other communities that you've worked with you know in terms of how they and maybe you see all you see everything you see separate buildings you see some of them that are part of Elementary buildings or is there a direction that you know more districts are
147moving towards well I think the I mean as part of the governor's this year's legislative um goals one of the things that was discussed early on in session was trying to get better collaboration between daycare programs Early Childhood programs and preschool programs so if somebody's got somebody that's in kindergarten or a half day preschool and the other half of the day they need to go to a daycare center they're not necessarily having to get on a bus and go across town and and have a separate daycare provider so we've we've seen we've worked on a couple of projects where there's been collaboration between an early childhood daycare provider Washington Iowa was one where they had an elementary school they wanted to add six prek rooms they had a daycare program in the local Y and
148they figured out how to do both build all of that together so the daycare center is connected to the preschool rooms there's separate functionality but it brings kids in it toddler an infant age and they're they're they're coming into the program and then they're they're going on through um osala was the same same scenario we built up a new YMCA facility but it was a it was a 280 partnership with the school district and I forget how many we I think we probably built a dozen preschool you know kindergarten pre- rooms and it was in its own Wing the what the fitness center was was its own area then there was you know a dozen rooms that the school district had a 2080 agreement to be in the building and use those and then there
149was a wing that was the daycare side so those preschoolers would just walk around to wraparound care as part of the daycare they'd have before and after programs or if they had a four-year-old had some three-year-old four-year-old Grooms as part of the daycare center but it was all it was all together and it was a collaboration that was at one one site so we're seeing a little bit of a trend towards are opportunity unities to have collaborations between thly childhood programs and the kindergarten 3K programs we're doing we're working with Mount Pleasant and that's one of their goals it's it's in the planning phase but it's the exact same discussion they want to work with the local daycare provider to say hey how can we build space to serve both our needs and have a
150collaboration thoughts thought some of the other can I get a Vibe check from the board on having a Fieldhouse that's um on that northeast corner but that's small and then and no weight room the weight room can't fit right vus we we showed the weight room coming in off the locker cor yeah it has to be a separate yeah that small field you could c a weit room but maybe you only have two parts okay okay so a small Fieldhouse but close to the rest of the facilities versus like a larger one but it's off to the West that's what's the I guess that would be my third choice but I know that there's a need for it so if I would have to sacrifice to be my third choice I think I would be
151fine to that if that was the way the cards play out uh but you you'd prefer a bigger one that has enough space to stretch out out to the West yeah Jenny you have any well my thought was is there any way that the big one with the big track can slip down and where the where this middle siiz one is it it is that I was just that's just a clip of the same thing so it would be an exact same location it wouldn't and I apologize if this is confusing oh I these classrooms are these classroom so this was just a try to get it all on one she oh okay I should have explained I'm sorry okay so yeah the big one will fit on that field but it's okay it's going
152to take all of that space I like that one better also I liked that we were able to add a couple of classrooms over there too as as part of that project I don't think we need another full size tra personally I know um I like the second option best the one with the turf yeah I would like to get inut from the people that are actually using it though what we would use the turf for and what that's going to be utilized as um if there's spaces for people to sit and watch like if we're holding tournaments what's if they can be utilized for I'm assuming volleyball not just basketball unot but you guys think it would be okay to have the Fieldhouse be off to the west side and separated from the other
153I mean it's not ideal but I don't really like I don't know yeah yeah I'm just I'm just getting I think that gets kind of messy with been music and band and then you have a weird long hallway and I don't know yeah yeah there's tradeoffs I don't know I know I remember when people would have been half it with just an extra gym oh I know I know well I mean but you were you were the one who said you can never build a big enough gym and so I'm I'm feeling a little bit like if we're doing it like the town definitely wants gym space so however we get gym space is what we need and I'm just looking at that I mean you you know the pressure in spring when the weather
154like we have a beautiful spring right now so it's great everybody's able to be outside on the pts and on the hes and you on the track and things but when all that gets pushed inside there's G to be a lot of pressure for that green space um I love the idea of having some sort of running space um I I kind of agree I don't think you probably need a full yeah you certainly don't need a six Lane track um because I we're not you not s to not going to be doing that kind of stuff if we had it would we host some indoor absolutely little pre-season meats and things but right but is that where we want to put half of our bond money onto that absolutely last item I ended is
155just an update on the timeline um and we're we're at the March 26th meeting our um our intent would be to to to get the documents that you saw tonight any feedback over the course of the next week um try to get those to Estus by the uh 4th of April and I haven't talked to you guys about this so I apologize but um I plugged in about a two we period to do some more detailed cost that tomorrow so that would get us to Mid April I thought it might be good for us to have another Zoom conference coordination call with your leadership team after we get those numbers but before your April board work session and then maybe have a hopefully a we won't have to go over all the scope because we've
156got a pretty detailed run through of it tonight but at least of here's the list of those scope items here's where the budgets are here's where they all add up let's let's go through that have some discussion about you know which items you might want to continue thinking about for maintenance scope versus a potential Bond scope ultimately the goal would be to try to have this this part of the whole process wrapped up by the first part of June um and then then the board can decide you know that gives you time if you do want to plan for um some sort of a referendum November of this year I think that gives you time to you have the summer to start going through that process with getting the right committees in place that might
157help promote it and doing the petitions and all that I mean for November election you really need to have your ducks in an in order by the end of August first part of September to start having contact with the auditor and that gives you time to run an actual campaign late summer through the fall part our next board meeting is April 9th will you need the board to do anything at that board meeting or have discussion on anything I don't think so okay I mean we're going to keep the process moving forward so if you lose sleep tonight and say hey you know what that we're not we're not building an addition on the west side of Washington like let's take a little time out and let's look more at the East side I mean
158that would be helpful for us to if we a lot of it's just scope what's the how much s feet do you need to get what you need whether it's exactly here or exactly there that's not super critical at this point in time but it's it's helpful as we continue to flush out design ideas to get those numbers closer done because your projection cost that you'll get from IAT Estus is just square footage for a specific program classroom square foot is what cost it is ky Mark kind of talk about how they their approach to that at this ear you know at a master plan phase as opposed to having design development Dr that they can go and do some actual quantity takeoffs on yeah so you keep it more high level feel fre to
159correct I'm wrong um where we give more like this is the typic that's in it there's kind of square foot cost for that area so science would be more correct then just a general classroom without all the science correct and like your C spes would most likely be less because there's not much to just a stop so you you'll be able to see all that so you know like at for if you clip the eight or 15 classrooms wherever that the cost is going to be comparably the same yeah your Square footages might vary a little but you can get a general idea of where fall yeah I mean my my advice to you would be if if this is the right year to do it that's what it's the board's objective that um the
160biggest items that you're going to go present to the community that there be some Buy in from the board that is that you're gonna if you're G to go build a 1520 million Elementary Center they're going to want to see what it looks like and where how does all the questions you guys asked tonight they're going to ask the same question so at that point between this spring and next fall we can't be saying well we're just going to do a 30,000 foot addition that might be on this side or that side that would be a little harder to have a successful Communications campaign same with the Fieldhouse it should probably be we generally think it needs to be on the west side or the east side it could be could have some options if
161it's you know option A is a little bigger than option b but that those two big ticket items you probably want to start to get a little more focused definitely before you try to do presentations and and drawings to share with the community to build their support for it um you know probably most surprising or impressive option tonight was that walkway between jeler and MD I just real so I don't know if there's more exploration of that that can be done I just think it solves some problems for us if it could be done and it creates some U some of that Flex space or that open space for collaboration and things to happen just for teachers to bring up break from either building kids out there and I appreciate it again for me it
162helps to understand what are the limitations and you guys talking about how the Middle School historical registry means that you know we have more limits in terms of what we can do but that's a space which is connected to the middle school which that is already it needs to be addressed anyway yeah thank you I think we're all getting a little tired so we'll we'll probably leave it at that but I'm gonna really strongly encourage the board to um look over all of this and really kind of reflect and if you have any bandwidth or time to you know go walk around outside the buildings so you know cement it in your mind you know what we're talking about and the spaces we're talking about and stuff and then we can just give you like
163email you guys feedback call me me whatever works best for you and then Beth I'm assuming you'll share the PDFs that so they'll have electronic copy they can look at and study yeah all right well thank you again apologize for running so long oh what we'll let you keep those those are just know okay I just want to wrap up our meeting and um just thank you to svpa all you guys for coming out here we really appreciate it um upcoming dates we have a regular board meeting on April 9th that's going to be held here um Josh is going to be chairing I apologize in advance I have a work thing so I won't be here everybody else will be here though right want make sure we're good yeah okay and then um uh
164Dr Johnson has passed out a version of the school dist calendar um we will do will it be on April 9th that we'll do a hearing on that okay we'll do a hearing on it so um if the the board must take a chance to look that over so I will take a motion to all in favor hi hi we are thank you so much your computer that you have as a board member D on you I talk to