3.19.2025 Regular Board Meeting of the LJSD Board of Trustees

001order it's now 601 everyone please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge alance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all thank you please be seated I need a motion to approve tonight's agenda so move second we have a motion and a second all in favor say I I any opposed hearing none the motion carries for announcements um just another reminder that this is the board's meeting uh held in public this is not a public board meeting and uh we are here to conduct business um I'll move on to accolades uh congratulations uh on the idx challenge for Spirit Lake Elementary who took third place John Brown Elementary that took second place Betty kefir

002Elementary who took the judge's Choice Award um Lakeland Middle School who took first place in the senior Division and Timberlake Middle School who took second place so good job are there any other accolades um I will have ibob results at the next board meeting I popped over there before the meet the meeting tonight um because we're doing our Elementary District competition today and the gym over there is packed and a lot of parents and several teams from each of our elementary schools and the kids were so excited so great bring that next time okay so we'll move on to public input uh first up is Allison no connected okay for those of you who don't know me my name is Alison null and I'm a teacher at Lakeland High School I've been an employee of

003the district for 18 years teaching for the last 15 I've been a two-time recipient of the Lakeland High School teacher of the year award and also a two-time recipient of the secondary District level teacher of the year I am so proud of the work that I have done while at Lakeland but unfortunately this is my letter of resignation in my four years as student council adviser I orchestrated fundraisers totaling over $120,000 that went back to this community I started the broadcast journalism program at Lakeland and grew the numbers in the theater Department year after year I will always remember the students who not only became a part of my life but my children's as well playing cops and robbers with them after rehearsal or helping them with math homework that I didn't understand my experiences

004inside the four walls of my classroom have been amazing it's everything outside of that that has become the problem after much reflection I've come to the conclusion that I'm tired of having to fight for what I know is best for my students I'm tired of having my judgment questioned even though I'm one of the most conservative drama teachers in the area as to what I believe students should be reading and Performing I'm tired of teachers being ripped apart on social media for just doing our jobs I have loved my job for 13 years and on every intention to retire from here unfortunately I've been teaching here for 15 over the last 2 years instead of being treated like professionals like the experts in our field we've been treated more as a nuisance when we show

005up to meetings to share our experiences and be part of the solution the biggest problem this school board doesn't trust the teachers that they hired to do their jobs there is such a toxic environment of distrust every decision we make is questioned and scrutinized we can't hold a fundraiser for our programs or the community without going to a committee for approval we can't play anything over a 5minute video for our struggling Learners without it going to a committee for approval we can't even let our students read the calan Press our local newspaper because a committee of patrons decided it should be put on the not approved curriculum list my students have to wait weeks in limbo because I can't pick a play until I know exactly who will be in my class and the approval

006process could take up to a full two months wherein I'm not allowed to put anything else in front of them that's not already approved the fact that this process still exists shows that you have no idea how our classrooms work or how to adequately educate students you are tying our hands so that we're unable to do what's best for these kids as Educators our responsibility is to equip students with the skills they need to succeed in the real world this involves not only providing them with the knowledge but also teaching them how to apply it effectively however instead of focusing on this Mission we are having to devote all of our time to appeasing vocal taxpayers by doing things like removing books from our libraries and debating the legitimacy of classic literature we aren't preparing

007students to have civilized conversations with people who may believe differently than they do we are Sheltering students to believe that there is only one right way of thinking and that is so dangerous while all of these things have been problematic your lack of a plan B for the November 5th ly vote was unprofessional and quite frankly that was the last STW it only deepened the mistrust between the community and the board further dividing people instead of bringing them together in very public board meetings we heard things like teachers should just be happy that they have jobs no matter what the pay and teachers should really be doing more like emptying their own trash and acting as crossing guards we aren't doing enough what a slap in the face those are the perfect comments if your

008goal is to devalue the work that teachers do and erode any remaining trust between us this rhetoric doesn't just harm morale it creates an environment where teachers feel disrespected and unappreciated and it undermines the collaborative spirit that should exist between the board Educators and staff and the community this used to be a district that parents saw out and now I believe you're going to see a mass Exodus you could blame the taxpayers for not passing the levy or you could take ownership and ask yourself if you yourself not voting for The Levy could have played a role in it not passing if you not going to your constituents and explaining why this vote was so important has something to do with the state that we're in my question to you is what is your end

009game why did you run for this school board if your answer is to make Lakeland better you're failing in my 18 years in this District I never experienced such animosity and I can tell you that it is felt by all administrators teachers support staff parents and the most heartbreaking of all the students you need to support your teachers you need to stand up for your teachers or you will lose your teachers yes you need taxpayers but I would argue that you need quality teachers just as much whether or not the levy passes I'm afraid that the damage has already been done thank you thank you next up is Anita dbic Anita dupi Community member and I'm speaking to um the bills list it's page number five and it's it it's the second check on there

010um I don't think the district should be paying for a resource that supports Equity as a basis for grading and uses focus on implicit bias states that it's Justice centered and uses race as an equity tool two things came to mind I'm speaking about the book that's called um grading for equity I believe is what it's called two thoughts came to mind when I saw the book on this list yes it's only $25 um but we have to start containing costs somewhere but more importantly Dei and the woke agenda are alive and well in parts of Lakeland and our federal and state governments have both said that schools are no place for these ideologies if a teacher wants to purchase this kind of resource on their own that's their choice but if you ask the

011patrons of Lakeland if they want to pay for this Equitable resource explaining what this entails my thought is that it would be a resounding note thank you thank [Music] you uh next is Carrie [Music] pet my name is Carrie pette this is my eighth year as a College and Career adviser at Lakeland High School I know some of you have already heard me speak a few times ago but there were a couple board members who weren't here last time and since this is on the agenda again I'd like the opportunity to speak to all of the members of the board in 2015 the governor's task force identified proper College and Career advising as one of the key factors for Student Success stating students and parents are entitled to better information on these opportunities sub subsequently

012Ado code 33-12 112a was enacted and the legislator legislature provided specific State funding to districts to expand or develop new College and Career advising programs beginning in 2016 our district has had College and Career advisors at Timberlake and Lakeland since and receives this funding from the state each year based on enrollment the language in sections one and three of the legislation state that College and Career advising is essential and requires trained Personnel so students can be College and Career ready upon graduation while there is some flexibility in implementation the law does not suggest that this funding should be absorbed into General counseling services in section two of the legislation the inclusion of specific roles like College and Career advisors indicates that the legislature sees value in dedicated Personnel focused on this work section 4 states

013that schools are required to notify parents about the availability of College and Career Services further reinforcing that the state intended for these programs to exist and be actively utilized in the FAQs from the State Board of Education in 2016 it asks can the dollars be used to support existing College in career advising or mentoring programs the state board's response was quote the intent of the funding is to expand existing programs or establish new programs and is not to be used for supplanting resources that are currently supporting guidance counseling College and Career advising or mentoring programs Idaho continues to prioritize this dedicated advising in Governor Little's 2025 budget highlights he recommends to quote double the funding for College and Career advisors to strengthen advising for all high school students this prioritization and his Direct reference to

014College and Career advisors aligns with the intent of the legislation College and Career advisors in high schools are a common and accepted practice across the state and in region one from celan to Sandpoint Moscow Lakeland and postf Falls who all have a dedicated College and Career advisor in addition to counselors because these are not interchangeable roles the intent of the state funding was to expand or establish College and Career programs rather than to fund existing counseling positions counselors already exceeding the recommended 250 to1 ratio and managing full case loads themselves cannot also absorb the full-time State mandated work of a College and Career advisor without compromising their own essential work this role requires someone with dedicated expertise and training to ensure students receive the guidance and opportunities this funding was designed to provide and that

015Lakeland families have come to expect and rely on as an essential service thank you thank you is there anyone else uh that wishes to address the board for public input okay copies of everything that sh tonight okay um I believe Anita did um did Alison n give you what she read she gave me a copy of her resignation and I will provide that to the cour board perfect and then Carri yeah not no she's right there right would you mind providing uh a copy to the clerk of what you read to the board sure thank you okay moving on two reports we have the financial report um do any of the trustees care to have discussion on the financial report that was presented yeah I have a question okay what is the capital outlay in

016fund 231 that put us over budget in that fund it's $2,274 we only have a budget of $115,000 in that right so the tricky thing with fund 231 is we um estimate what we think is going to happen there um that's also where we run insurance claims through so sometimes we'll receive additional funding in there I'd have to pull a financial report I can get that to later this evening um I just off the top of my head I don't know cuz it wasn't a recent expenditure um but we do run insurance claims through there so I have a feeling it might be related to that but I will double check okay um that's one of the budgets that uh through a budget revision we'll work on getting those amounts cheed up with the activity

017um in the budget for this year [Music] does anyone else have any other questions with regard to what we were presented with uh not on the report that's all I have okay thank you moving on to the consent agenda we have minutes from of the previous meeting minutes of subcommittee meetings to be accepted HR items regular and special bills uh is there any conversation to have on the minutes of the previous meetings no okay any uh comments on the minutes of the subcommittee meetings to be accepted okay uh HR items we have the resignation board book mment applications do we have any comments or conversations on those I was wondering if we got any uh exit interview responses from any of these people or if they were given the exert interviews to fill out yeah

018they always have the option to request an exit interview so we don't give it to the it's yeah it's on their exit sheet that when they go out that they can request an exit interview with HR okay we were getting quarterly the um reports are we not doing that anymore I'm not really getting requests for accident interviews and so I've had I've had a couple but I haven't had I'm not getting requests so to clarify what trusty Gren said you don't hand it out unless they request right it's under exit sheet that says here are these items and then you can request an exit interview from HR okay um I do think uh there's a new hire uh Trenton Couer as listed as a head girls soccer coach at Timberlake high school he's the boys

019oh sorry it's okay don't know if that matters with anything you're doing but it's not correct on here so um that was my only comment on that um anything else on HR items okay so moving on to the regular and special bills if you would M can I Circle back to the on 231 item okay um it is for the installation of the video board that was donated by STCU um the funds for that ran through fund 231 and we were fully reimbursed for that have we not been have we not received the funds we have yeah it's in the revenue for just the this is just showing expenditures so it puts the expenditures over it video board for L High School okay thank our Revenue should be equally over yes um I am curious

020on the uh expenditure detail M um there are two transactions for laptop and card reader for jod Nelson one is $169.99 one is 16351 did we buy this person to laptops and two card readers it's for her CTE program okay so it's not for her it's forr program yes okay they was purchased using CTE funds and then what is funds for learning uh that's our eate program so uh we pay to be part of eate but they give us huge reimbursements for example our internet service that we have we the amount that we receed from them in reimbursement towards our cost for internet and then what we rece from the state basically makes it a net zero expense to us um and then the recent wireless access points RFP that we did um for the

021buildings um we're getting a 60% reimbursement it's a government program that we so it costs us 10,000 a year Well 11 yeah this year okay and that's an annual fee it's an annual fee to be part of eate in order to apply for governmental funds to help offset our expenses yes thank you [Music] any other questions by uh there's a bill here for Crisis Prevention Institute online course who who is that for uh each of our buildings has a a crisis team we are required to have um people trained in the building for deescalation and the proper restraint if a child um needs to restrain and so um those teams have to be retrained um every so often Kelsey can can speak um to this more but um so part of that is just the

022the renewal of training for Kelsey Badger director uh special programs um for the cost of that is to retrain our four trainers so myself um my Consulting teacher and my two bcbas are trained and then we do train the trainers so then we go so that this covers five people yeah and it allows them then to train sta so that we're not having to bring a trainer in does it cover five people or four people okay four four people yeah Oh I thought said four plus yourself I'm sorry that's with special or professional development funds from State what is uh Pine Grove Consulting Tech 36 Monon sofos extreme protection for $38,000 that is a software that it is using to help monitor um student usage of Chromebooks that's our antiviral program my apologize antivirus it

023also filters out it's supposed to filter out some inappropriate sizes as well I don't think it's working okay um any other questions for anyone from from anyone I was thinking I had one more you asked one of the ones that I had but okay I'm not seeing it right now there were did I see two bills on here for snow removal M two different two different contracts we have two contracts one that's um for down here and then one that covers our up north schools and apple and potentially gwood so we use two different companies for that well you know this is my pet peeve so are we looking at uh ways to dispense with that in the future uh facilities director Tim H will speak to that after want me now if you can

024Tim he facilities director yeah so some of the things we're looking at with snow removal is what I'm seeing these bills are extremely high and so some of the things we're looking at is what can we do locally in house and we're going to be short-handed this year anyway so we are looking at getting like a dispersal um ice melt for the back of one of the rigs that we can do local schools down here next year when we go to bid out for snow removal because there there is so much we can't do it all inhouse but we're going to put it out to bid definitely I I want to see more contractors involved in this because some of the prices that we're paying and I would say their their default is they trigger

025on 1 to 3 in I would rather see them trigger on 3 in plus because we can drive in an inch of snow we don't need to plow it and pay $130 an hour for removal if it's minor or on a weekend where it's going to melt before Monday so this is something that we're looking at for next year um luckily we had a light winner so we're under budget but I think we can do better next year for sure thank you jtim you bet I know that the city does a um three three Ines and actively snowing is what they go with so any other questions from anyone no I'll entertain a motion on the consent agenda move to appr Second have a motion in a second all in favor say I I any

026opposed hearing none the motion carries okay uh moving into Old business we have the superintendent followup um um just clarification um on the ihsaa guidelines you State girls can play girls Sports and boys can play boy sports but that girls cannot play football and boys cannot play volleyball I was just giving an example so foot um just you know it came up can girls play football and so the answer that is now okay thank you you're welcome I don't think that's a good idea I wanted to specifically answer trusty Jones question that's from Idaho High School Association yeah cuz we've always had girls play in lower levels of football I I yeah I I don't know their reason my guess is safety but that's a guess well usually they don't make it past freshman year

027so okay um you state you reached out to Target River moving forward all ads will say paid for by citizens for Quality education trustee gr at the last meeting asked if we could make sure that that's on there because patrons were concerned that maybe we had use the taxpayer dollars to pay for those so okay I I thought I guess I'm a little confused um cuz I learned at the town hall meeting at Garwood that the campaign with Target River isn't about uh raising awareness for the levy it's about building trust um but we the board was told that the funding for the levy um awareness campaign uh was coming from the Lakeland Education Foundation and now citizens for Quality education dollars sit within the Lakeland Education Foundation um account so that um and there

028are several different entities um within that so that uh the they get the people who donate get um the 50 it's a 501c3 so they get the tax um right off uh but the actual um account within the Leland found Education Foundation bank account there's a line item in there that says citizens for Quality Education Foundation is a vehicle for people to donate those funds as pass through yeah okay I had some are you done yeah I'm done if there's nothing discussion well I'm still concerned about the 100% graduation rate um because you can't find that anywhere I really feel like somewhere we need to make a disclaimer how we arrived at that number I mean I think our graduation rate numbers are fine I don't know why we have to come up with this

029I guess here's my thing is we say every child matters in every situation but yet we removed kids from the numbers so we could get to 100% I mean we didn't remove we didn't remove kids we remove the life skills from the that's what you said last you remove the life skill kids to get because they can stay beyond the 18 right to graduate and that's how you got to the hundreds so when they get to that 21 then that's when they're graduating so so that when they're 18 and we know they're staying till 21 we we don't count them in that class we count them in the class where they're actually going to graduate um I'm not trying to inflate numbers or all I want the community to know is that we account for

030as many of the people who move in those four years as we can but sometimes we can't get all of the documentation um but 100% of our kids are graduating on time and so that's the that's well they can't reconcile the numbers so I've had a few discussions at the federal level and at the state level the 100% doesn't exist anywhere for any of the high schools and the other thing being um well as my excuse me as my understanding the 100% applies to the uh senior class when they start the year and end the year 100% who started the year graduated yeah well you don't have to explain to me it's the public that wants to know they're asking me so what I'm saying is they go looking for the number and they come

031to me and I said well it's because we're looking at like a cohort of these kids that came in together all I'm saying is we need to explain that to the public because when they look for 100% they cannot find it and the other thing I'm being asked also is exactly where did we cut the $2 million and I thought well that would be a good thing to put on the levy page so people could see that way I can just direct them you know the the page and they can get all the information there cuz they were asking me for specifics and I told them I would have to I would ask tonight and then I would get back to them perfect um um and actually at the town hall meeting um that we

032did last week at Garwood that was uh one of the recommendations for me to put in my um I do a I start with just a short like five days s minute kind of overview and that was one of the things that somebody suggested I put in there so I will also include it in the but I will put it on the lety page I mean I think the more information we give and the more transparency I mean we have nothing to lose right I think we just lay it all out on the table and tell them here's where we cut here's how we how we got there here's I mean you know because like I said they you know how the numbers go yes Y and we will get those both of those things

033on yeah um the other thing is is who is uh how how is this these ads being targeted cuz I've talked to quite a few people outside my zone and none of them have seen the ad but yet in my zone the ad drives me crazy it like lives on YouTube so I'm curious is if there's a saturation based upon the way the community voted or not I would like to see those numbers back from them I can ask that question but when we met with them that's not how it was described to us so that they anybody within the districts they put the geofence around the district boundaries and anybody within the district boundaries who binge watch something on Netflix might see an ad for Lakeland or it might pop up on their phone

034um it would be nice to know a little bit more about that question yeah what their targeting is and and uh I mean are we doing CPM or I mean like what are what are they doing with this you know um and I know it's sort of you know it's it's paid for by somebody else but it's still the district right so the district is still given the permission to include all of its whomever is portrayed in the video students teachers all of that even though somebody you know what I'm saying it's sort of a they were asking me and I tax we had donations to pay for it but we we it's still a District initiative yeah so I'll will reach out and ask okay those questions um I think that I think that

035was it if there's something else if I miss something I'll just shoot you perfect I don't I don't have anything else moving on to the financial followup chair Thompson uh Char Boyd our nutrition services director is here tonight if you guys would like to meet him sure that would be greated hello hello come on up TR nice to meet you all nice to meet you welome to the district thank you um I started in the middle of January I'm coming from the yakma area Okay um got about 35 years of experience in food and beverage management um going into my third year with K through2 so I'm excited to be here and I'm at your service wel great thank you it's no longer the Palm Springs yeah not so much sunshine but it's coming I

036promise and some former director we had I think recommended you is that right possibly possibly Kevin y yeah he's a good guy he's been a tremendous support for me too he's still with Chartwells and I've got him on speed dial reach out to him quite often yeah thank you thank you Char's going to come to the April meeting when we bring our summer food service recommendation so you'll get to see him again um thank you for so we're not going to provide a summer base program no okay um unfortunately the numbers just aren't there we attempted to try it again last year um Post Falls is not offering one celine's going to offer a very minor one um it it seems as the community has found other resources there's just not enough to make a

037break even and I know that sounds awful because it's not always about money but that's supposed to be a self-sustaining program so I need it to break even so yeah unfortunate but like see if they're not using it we can't right make sure all so you provided uh for clarification for trusty Bane on the stem Charter Transportation billing um where I suppose it would be beneficial to know where are we transporting them to I mean we have trip numbers but that doesn't yeah this is this isn't exactly what I was requesting I was asking how like what their bills were what how they were build I would be happy to bring that backhead as a future media I was trying to be as concise as possible to show what we built um I will work

038at Chelsea has done the leg work with uh our transportation director Jessica um to get that information so I will make sure to update that and bring it at the next meeting apologize for not giving enough information we H we have it all when we just a little we were talking about this trying to figure out which piece of information you guys were wanting so it it just got too small instead of all the information you wereing um on the enrollment report I'm I'm just trying to clarify um the enrollment shows a total in yellow um accumulate a total of 4602 mhm okay but when you go to the attendance and you go to enrollment in the yellow it says 4564 so the yellow on that one is actually um that's the previous year the

0394564 the yellow total is the attendance for that snapshot in time so we had 400 or 4277 students right below it is the total room 4602 so they do match up um the yellow line on this one is just showing that the total attendance for that date and time was the 4277 SN no I understand the 4277 but right next to that column it says enroll you're telling me that that enroll is for last year not this year because those enrollment numbers match up on top I'm just trying to figure out why we have two different numbers I just lined up with the prev year I'm I'm wondering if sorry Chelsea Bley accounting specialist um I'm wondering if maybe my spreadsheet has lost um the uh formula so it might have not pulled in correctly

040okay so they are supposed to equal correct yeah enrollment should match what is up above yes that's what I thought but I was I think I think my my formula has not pull for some reason or another we'll double check that and make sure it's correct one for please all right thank you yes any other questions or conversations on the financial report no I don't have any no there's a there's an ad that's in the purchase services that should be in the publishing legal ad for 2425 concrete projects okay I will make sure it's moved that one I do think it's worth highlighting that our two comprehensive high schools have pretty high um attendance this last month 96 and 95.9% average daily attendance that's kind those are pretty high numbers especially at high school level

041and I'm curious why um and maybe you can help me understand with the the uh proposed budget uh proposed projects Etc when we've taken money away and allocated it towards something else but then we're not going with that we're going to go why we're not putting the money back where it was it takes board Direction um so that's a something I'm bringing to the board tonight to approve putting that money back into that line item so it's one of the agenda items for this evening okay so when you come to us and say we're not going to do this anymore in this direction we then need to tell you again we'll go ahead and put it back yeah so I I'm bringing you a whole re-budget on that for this evening for consideration okay um

042I just need board Direction because it is changing how we anticipate it spending the funds okay so I guess I just need permission to move it okay all right any further questions no okay thank you thank you moving on to the facilities update oh wait I did have one one more question not yet sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry um what are we oh those are never mind oh well there's an well there's like an Architects West bill that we just paid in February for Apple Elementary I thought we were done with so architect is still having to deal with the lawsuit with emmeric um and the bond payout and so we're getting built for the services related to them representing us on that front and it's it's both apple and spirit Le there should be

043a charge in both of them um what are you looking at the board approv projects or are you looking at plant facility Lobby uh the board facility projects yeah so the board facility projects is related to um the non-payment of Emer to the subs that did all the work um and so there's a lot going on behind the scenes with legal that Architects West has also had to put time into and so we're receiving a bill for their services for that work which in turn can be part of our claim on the bond okay are we get facilities okay so we'll move on to facilities have your glass do you want me to make iter do you have any questions or conversation we'd like to have on the facilities update Jim can you give us

044a bit more uh insight into the work you're doing with the Vista on changing out lights and so forth yes absolutely uh again Tim he facilities director so we have been working with an electrician B&H and I've been working with the Vista as well and actually kind of start a little bit with our Junior Tackle program they started looking into this for the middle school and when talking with the Vista they actually have a program to retrofit any lighting that we have that doesn't comply with what their current um Energy Efficiency model is they are flipping the bill 100% abolutely um we have they've gone through every school and these guys have been amazing because they did it last minute a thisa changed the program three or four times on us Uh Kevin with B&H

045has been Johnny on the spot with every single one of it he went through all of our schools he cataloged every single light and got everything ordered and again the is paying for everything so to give you an example some of these type lights with the bulbs got replaced a few years back with LED bulbs and the new program is replacing the entire fixture with an LED fixture uh which is going to be good because uh Timberlake about caught on fire last week two week two weeks ago with an LED bulb so they had two fires uh one was a motor that went out but the second one was an LED bulb in a wrong fixture that literally caught fire luckily it didn't spread it just smoldered burnt out and then I think it was

046the very next day that whole light picture got replaced anyway but going back to to the program as a whole they are doing all the schools they doing with the exception of the schools that are on CY electric Cy electric which are Garwood and apple and um they're also doing the stadium lights at the high schools we're going to be doing the stadium lights at the middle school and this is all included in the aista program it's at no cost to us no cost to us at all including installation including including installation b& is getting reimbursed by a vist for everything uh he's actually donating some of his time and and crew uh but he reassured me that they they are making enough money to make it worthwhile but um they're not charging what they

047would normally charge so ifys would say pay a percentage of the program and then the recipient would pay a percentage B&H is taking care of all that for us it would be a remiss if I didn't point out that our principal uh everin everin up at Timberlake High School also was the one that got us started in the schools Lakeland Junior Tackle wanted to do the football field lights here at the middle school um and Ryan was able to get them started kind of at Timberlake high school and then it spread from there spread and it spread quickly yeah which is fantastic to be able to take it um a part of these rebate programs and work with Community partner to get all of our schools flipped in the manner that we are to give

048you any uh data or information about what difference it will make in utility costs did so there there was a breakdown and each school was a little bit different but on average I I want to say it was 15 20% energy usage was savings for using the All LED program so it it it benefits them for us to use less energy because they're selling it to other people uh California probably um but we're recipients of a great program and it's it's amazing if you've been in Timberlake recently most of their lights are all done and their Stadium lights are done and they look they look great and we don't have the flickering fluorescent that gives correct so they don't have the flickering and then the new Bas it's an -1 system uh has a switch

049to change the actual color of the lighting so you can brighten it up or you can dim it down just by click of a switch so I know some of the teachers like a little dimmer classroom experience is this flick of a switch are are teachers able to access it or are they it's just on the outside so if they if they requested it we could do it for them okay I'm not asking teachers get up on chairs or anything that would be against you know ocean ocean regulations please don't get on chairs teach uh but they are adjustable to a certain degree okay perfect um the light so the the lights if the light fails is it a replacement of a bulb or the ENT ire unit the entire unit yeah it's basically it's

050LED strips in a unit right um but they're life expectancy is I don't have the exact numbers by Led is do we know how much those units run I think they're I want to say were 200 bucks I have a invoice on my desk from the initial purchase for Timberly high school I'd be happy to I was just curious yeah cuz I wasn't sure if they were the whole unit fails or if there was a b but in the long run it's going to save us quite a bit in energy usage and replacement bulbs right but there will be a point where we have to change one or two out for [Music] sure okay cool how are we going to get apple and Garwood done so I looked at coutney and right now they don't

051have any programs that match this can we call them and tell them that every other school in our district was done by a Vista and we have two schools that aren't we can definitely Kil trip them we can definitely attempt it we all pay and do the Roundup right your bill we will reach out to C you can ask you know um the cost wouldn't be that great if everybody got it done it's pretty surprising the cost that's associated with the whole building switch over um I will have to get a number from Kevin but I would probably say upwards of I think Timberlake High SCH itself was 300 400,000 yeah that's pretty close including the staum lights yeah so I mean I'm assume me close to a million but I I'm just conjecture I

052need to make sure I get the right number on it he was definitely over a million for what he's putting in all of that yeah you know what would be good I know everybody's got so much on their plate but tied to the levy page maybe a link or something you know what we've done in the last few years because I don't know we do have a lot of this on our community I'm sorry Trust to interrupt but um we do have a lot of this on our community page um so we make sure that this as the schools get done we'll add them um but linking it to the ly page would be great too yeah just so they know with a little blurb about what you know here's all the things and I

053think they did post the timberling photos recently as well but yeah the 11 page be good CU we have a huge population that is in the district but they don't have anybody attend or working in the district you know so they they're not in that Loop right yeah we um we bought two banners that that say um this project was completed uh using no taxpayer dollars thank you to our sponsors and we're we have two of them I think and so we're just kind of moving them around the district as new projects are being done so that um people are seeing that there are a lot of really great things that we have done and a lot of it was with no taxpayer dollars because you know it's fully funded by um community members and

054donations for example we have one on Lakeland Middle School's fence right now because of all the field work that was done by Lakeland junor tackle um that was an upwards of $200,000 project that they donated to the district so we currently have that on our fronts because we've gotten some questions on how that was paid for so and also over the bathroom the Rotary socer Field bathroom yes we are trying also to have something out visible for the community members to see as they drive by yeah so we can direct everybody go check it out it's all there and you put us in as to what happened to the fence over at the high school um Saturday morning in the snow Yeah so a um Community member Community member a local resident uh basically just

055slid on the snow into the fence um I've already been in touch with the insurance company I filed a claim and I have Idaho fence coming out Friday to do a bit on that so we can get a repair good y we're on it yep I knew you would be yeah that was a a shocker toight that's an obvious one yes we need some concrete down there no that would have been worse I would have feel so bad there's a car I know luckily he was okay and he had a minor with a minor with him and they both walked drove away so it was fine just let just lovely so lovely um can you kind of clue Us in on the working with trimco construction on aging and Grading roofs for future Replacements long

056range planning yes absolutely so tremco is a their worldwide company they do major buildings around the area they came to me a couple weeks ago um said that they do a grading system to help you long-term plan so they're actually in the process of doing that they were out today they'll be out tomorrow and what they're doing is they're scanning our roofs and looking for you know age you know any damage or anything like that while they were on Lakeland High School roof and they're just up there measuring this isn't a cost to us at all they're just doing that to scan everything and have a plan and help us predict uh long-term roof replacement while when they were up on Lakeland they actually found a bunch of holes in the TPL Roofing and while

057they were there they just fix them so what they do is they set us up and say okay here's each one of your schools here's the roofs here's the kind of roofing here's the square footage here's this addition that addition if they were done separately and here's what we think your longevity is so they're in for kind of a long Hall with the roof so if it say this roof looks like it's got 10 years life left they would essentially come back in 7 8 n years and reassess it and see where we're at so they can give us a long-term plan to help us you know one budget and two you know what's failing faster than something else now granted through this program they're obviously going to want us to use them for the

058roofing um however Jimmy's Roofing who's been doing a lot of roofing for us is actually part of the program so they've been in contact about the edges of the roofs any of damage that they've found they've been talking to Jimmy's Roofing um and then they're going to present us a report that we can share with you as well okay but we're not locked into any kind of contracts with them we're not paying them for the service at all well I would be very interested in looking at their report in comparison to when the roof was actually redone because we just went and re roofed dist so correct um that would be very interesting to see the comparison on that and we have had some issues with the roofs over this last winter little ones some

059ice DS and like I said they found a couple holes in 2po but the more we can keep on top of it now the longer they're going to last and so you're saying that the S contract we have is a good contract um we do not currently have a sensy contract correct so I know this has been uh brought up before my time and I'll just tell you what I found since since I've been talking to them and talking with the facilities um the uh activities directors and principles of the schools So Christine in our office she had done a full report on what it would cost to actually buy the materials and then get the equipment set up to be able to apply the materials the problem with a lot of the materials that

060they use on the field it's liquid and you have to have an applicator license and a separate insurance policy for that well kind of kind of similar to the deiser I found that we can um have get it from somebody else a little bit cheaper so in this case I guess that doesn't make sense the the uh we can do broadcast of granular materials but the broad leaf and the things like that to kill the dandelion and keep the grass looking green stuff like that needs the actual spray so that it actually attacks the broadleaf and kills it and then to properly treat the grass and what they do is the their ation uh the detatching and we're actually doing some of the patching ourselves the cost to do excuse me the cost to do

061two treatments a year was 26,000 I believe and that was cheaper than what we could actually spin up for plus Manpower they came back and said they could do four treatments because they hadn't been treating enough in the past and I know there were a lot of complaints from some of the schools with the way the fields looked for example the baseball field wasn't even on a schedule to do until May well baseball's over by that time I mean they're playing baseball right now and what we found is that the dandel the bloom and everything happens in March vers to April nothing was getting done until May and it was there were a lot of complaints so when I talked to siny and I know they had got another um they had looked at another

062company as well and these guys were the most coste effective and I've got um Junior Tackle program here that is actually going to kick in to pay for the Middle School field part of Betty keeper and I think part of John Brown as well so they are going to uh kick back some money for that and then I talked to the baseball program up north in Timberlake and they're actually taking care of the infield so we just have to focus on the Outfield so we're able to pair back some of it and do it inhouse and I know over here these guys their baseball team uh two weeks ago they had the whole team out there working on the field they had the kids out there the coaches uh Matt NE was out there they

063were all raking shoveling fixing up their infield and then um with the sensy contract we can get on top of the issues that we have with the dandel lines because they're so prevalent and be able to treat it four times a year for essentially the same price that we would be doing it for the two times a year so that's more cost effective it is more cost effective and they have the license the insurance the liability the equipment and the equipment orbs are going to kill them all L Deads that's their first FR it is and they're annual so I mean the crop you get is the crop they came but anyways um Loop and Lane in Silver Meadows looks tremendous we have that corner lot out there it looks so good I couldn't believe

064how great it looks I don't know when that got done but yeah so the guys spend a lot of time up there clearing that off and and getting it yeah trees were Tri beautiful an apple clarify yes um and we um we got a a so herk rental um has been helping us out with equipment at a very very very reduced price they brought over a massive wood chipper and I mean something that takes 12 in yeah it looks great I couldn't believe I I I didn't even realize we had that many trees on that lot Have You Been by if you guys get a chance it's right at the corner of old 95 in l l right where you go into silver okay they looks so good yes uh our it's on our Facebook

065page as well um our soci media has a post on it as well with a couple of the guys that were working on the project although many more worked on it but pictured yeah I kep wanting to bring it up and was like okay that's there's also work being done uh Mountain View Property yeah so I talked to a homeowner that borders our property out here behind Mountain View and him and I walk the property and there's some some dead trees that are are leaning that are a little scary and then a lot of underbrush and things that are down laying on the ground so um what we're going to do is have send some of the guys out there to bring down those snags so that they don't you know wind Gus knock them

066down I know a lot of people walk back there it's posted no trespassing but I know people do it anyway and so if we can take down the hazard I'd feel a lot better about it absolutely yeah can I Circle back to sensy is that something the board would like to entertain or would you like me to bring a separate item for that what do you mean we do not currently have a sensy contract um that's something that was part of the budget reduction last year um we left some money in the budget to potentially purchase equipment cuz at the time the thought would be that we could do it in house based on a recommendation we had received um with Christine and Tim's research all all of that um they've determined that that's not

067the most cost- effective method so I guess I'm seeking are you all right if we work with sunsky to have them spray our Fields so did did we have a contract with them before we before we do not this fiscal year but considering the amount of Mone that's involved we probably should have it would be a contract and it would go out for a bid just to make sure we're getting the most Equitable price we would that for that dollar amount it would be three written or three requested quotes for it um just to make sure that we're being fair and Equitable um do you need that to come back to the board for approval well yes if it's a contract yes you need to approve it so we'll work on that for the next

068board meeting thank you perfect you're welcome thank you for such a great report and all the work you're doing it's fabulous thank you so much I appreciate it absolutely yeah I can't take credit for the report Jessica does that but thank give for the information the team did a great job all right moving on to new business that we have the supplemental curriculum wow really short people I'm sorry Lyn we all can't be tall my KN um I just have a couple of comments so there was a um a written uh comment about some of the material that there wasn't a digital copy um I did provide the board that digital copy I didn't feel comfortable copying it CU it is there's definitely copyrighting issues and it's not my program and we haven't purchased it

069this is something that we have used prior that our high schools are asking to come back to uh is parent permission and it's in lie of a fine if you for a student getting caught vaping um the other piece is if you go um I'm just reminder that all of these books on here are just books that we've been using for a long time I'm just continuing with the list to go back and get approval for those things that were you know grandfathered in um so we do get parent permission on all these books there were some disparaging comments um about our teachers listed in some of the comments and I'm just going to remind everybody this is a really hard time to teach a lot of these Concepts um I can't even imagine how

070our government economic teachers cover some of the current events with in light of everything that's happening in our country and our teachers work really really hard to be neutral and to provide both sides and give that perspective we have a policy around that so our teachers are doing an amazing job and um again I don't necessarily think this is the platform everybody's allowed with their opinion but this is about giving comments about books but just felt like I need to defend our teachers because every single day they're putting themselves out there in light of everything that's going on and trying to give both perspectives and still teach our history and teach all the concepts and so um you know I I just feel like I needed to defend them so those comments that you're talking

071about are those viewable by the public oh okay CU they're not on our what we got so I don't know what oh you have them you can pull them up if you go to the previous version it will give you the supplemental list and has all the books with all the comments if somebody scrolling through the PDF which is what's provided to us in the public and they're not there it's just the name of the school the name of the book and then you know the little bulleted right that's if you go down to the comments there's comments in there that talk about in a negative way about our teachers so the public can view it I don't censor any of the comments um because again everybody's right to their opinion but I still feel

072like I needed to publicly defend our teachers it's it's they're doing an amazing job again we do not have parents offing out of these these books um and uh they're dealing especially at our high school with some really hard topics and doing the best they can to be neutral and to provide our students with both perspectives [Music] and the other last comment um and then I'll stop talking um I don't know if it was the last board meeting or the board meeting before um one of the board members requested if there is a cost to something so even though there is no cost to any of this um to the district um I just if there was like a teacher pay teacher or something where there could potentially be a cost I just wanted to

073be transparent about that this is what it would be we aren't there is no cost to us because this was donated but um even if it's donated we still bring it to the board for permission so just being transparent if somebody were to pull this up I'll shorten this for you I down thanks can you see the comments there is one that's pretty discouraging um it's an opinion based comment on uh the one on the a pair of silk stockings yeah that one was pretty Compu um which oh so in the concerns it's not a comment section it's a concerns section right I was looking for comments I don't have it okay so in the concern the bulleted points are what you're cor to gotcha okay do we have any conversation that we want to

074have about any of these books or curriculum I am I guess just cautioned on it looks the C the supplemental curriculum that's being requested is online correct it's not looks okay with the exception of these programs that are right here okay these are the same ones that we had before AR They isn't this the same one um a while back I had asked to see from the pan okay y yep okay and they're asking to use it they haven't been using it they're asking to bring it back because there is I think it's a $75 fee um and so if they go through this class I think it's five days it's in lie like five sessions it's in lie of that so um and it is a train the trainer like our counselors have to

075be trained in doing it but it's just trying to save the parents and then I mean obviously it's just trying to Pro you know it's more preventative in nature we had we had brought theou with Panhandle Health District to continue to teach that class and um the board had asked us if we had formally approved the curriculum um we we couldn't find anywhere where we had so we yeah I remembered something like that okay so we wanted to bring it to okay I thought we had looked at it before I trust our teachers and I trust our superint our our assistant superintendent so I'm Mo to approve our supplemental curriculum as presented sh we have a first in a section second is there any more conversation on the supplemental curriculum um just the the uh

076I mean there's more but the AI the magic AI M if you look at their data retention and there some of their I there's quite a few concerning things about it I don't know how we came across this particular program um but as far as data collection retention who has access who are they selling it to we don't know who they're selling it to um anyways there there's just it's a pretty generic copy paste uh privacy rights for the for the students and the parents have absolutely no access unless I guess a school can give them access um yeah there were quite a few things about the AI um program and it's just and it's pretty old without getting into it it looked pretty rudimentary and outdated but whatever it's not good it's not safe

077it's not safe with the kids's data I I don't know what the what the advantage of it is but I I just bring it up we have a motion in a second all in favor say I I those opposed nay hearing that the motion fails I would like to move uh to approve the supplemental library books that were offered um for approval and the in-depth Panhandle curriculum the KN on Tobacco curriculum these these two things I am specifically excluding the online curriculums also that Mo we have a motion in a second all in favor say I I I any opposed me three in favor one opposed motion carries can I just have one more thing sure um Anita would you mind just come up and talking about your book that I'm bringing a supplemental curriculum

078oh um next next time just so I can give them the heads up so we have a author that is it's a pro police officer book yeah there is not a digital copy I do have it in my possession so we're going to bring it to I'm going to ask you if I can scan it and then send it to so you can look at it so um I'm a volunteer with a nonprofit in town called um bold for blue Idaho and it is an organization that kind of develops a relationship between First Responders and law enforcement and the community and um we have a local author and if I'm not mistaken her husband might is a deputy and he might have worked at guard he's um he lives right here the K through2 and

079so it's just a book that introduced so it's called depti squash and it's Squatch be um and it's just a book that just kind of introduces this Deputy Squatch he looks like a Sasquatch um and it just um kind of tells them it's something to be read to kids from K to 2 and it just says this this is who I am this is what law enforcement is is this is what do these are some of the things we do in the community for kids um these these are the things that we carry on our uniform you're welcome to talk to us about him and so it's just kind of an interaction between it's so it would be a uniformed Deputy or officer that would come on campus to read these books and it's for

080K2 and so we're just asking if there was um we would just like to have it looked at to see if if the board would approve that and then I could approach the principles and see if anybody's interested in it I read it it's great book is great but I do not have a digital copy so if we get one gra I just wanted to preface that so we would have one available here but again I feel like I can copy it gotcha thank you thank you thank you thank you I think we're always open to anything like that I know we have quite a few authors in our community that write specifically for children it's it's a great it's great her Sasquatch does look a little bit like her husband yeah okay all right

081moving on to the LMS bleacher quote do we have any conversations or questions we'd like to talk about on that quote or on the request that was divided yes it appears that um the recommendation is to approve Vibe Tech Specialties for 875 for bleachers for Lakeland middle school and that it is a co-op [Music] purchase was this wasn't this a project we had anticipated did we set money aside for this yes there was $105,000 set aside for it trusty Grom um so this will come in under budget um which just because it's a contract I needed to bring it to you for your approval um the reason I had the co-op on there there is because all of the bidding requirements even though this doesn't have to go to a full bid that's met through

082the co-op so okay great and I did get a second bid through third or third yeah through the vendor on the co-op site as well and they came in at $1 15,650 so this would replace the existing bleachers all the way around that horseshoe all the way around um with uh manual pull out plastic bleachers um they look pretty to the similar to the high school but not motorized and not motorized and we're going to save some money on it as we're going to do the demolition ourselves they want another $8,000 for the demo like we can and this does include a payment performance bond the price when you say similar to the high school because we already have some from the high school in there right no that's all the wooden lovely bleachers that

083I feel like are a giant liability every time someone sits on them those are in storage because is we um we couldn't do the bleachers last summer because uh they we couldn't get on a schedule and so we did the painting and then this summer we're doing the floor and so we didn't want to put the bleachers in before we did the floor so we're doing um the My question is be use those and we're not planning on using them what are we going to do them with the board's permission Surplus them but iing is there another school that can use them they face the wrong way is what I've been told oh even for the elementary schools cuz I think apples are pretty bad too they open in Reverse in Reverse cuz they were

084up in the high school map room oh Goa and they opened up a different way so we did store them U but we still have them in storage yes we still have them but we couldn't even use them in Mountain View because of the way they open and we're positive they won't work in any of the other elementary schools that need them just because the way they open what what's the warranty on these ones purchasing open they sit up against a glass wall and they open out so you can look down over okay there's nothing that's behind them it is a 5year warranty on the bleachers parts and not labor probably not that's why we went with the manual less to break down right move to approve the bid of 96 350 is that it

085it's a little bit more um on the first page just because of the yeah but the payment performance bond those are important yes 98758 and. 75 yes second we have a motion in a second all in paper say I I I any opposed hearing none the motion carries moving to pfl re-budget and projects lovey all right um the sighting project change order for $107,000 that um I believe you brought to us to set that money aside why do we no longer need it um never came through as a bill and it's not showing owed so um all we owe right now on that project is $89,000 and that's for Emer and that's for Emer it'll go to the bond company um we will not payme directly okay not going to run them over there for

086based on the number of lawsuits with that one I thought we had already paid that you we're waiting for the bond company they there were so many claims um for bonds related to this company uh Z had to hire a third party adjuster to handle the influx of claims um for unpaid vendors related to this construction company so we're waiting for them to do their are processed so that we can write them a check so that they can pay out all the subcontractors um I'm curious on the fencing at LMS and LHS to comply with the 6ot parameter parameter yeah um I thought we had just done that so unfortunately some of it uh with the the fencing money that we had received from the state it covered everything that was done when you did

087a walk through on the Lakeland Middle School event it's actually only 4 and 1/2 ft tall on the roads side so that's the side that we need to fix um and then at the Lakeland High School that fencing was which one so Lakeland High School the fencing that runs along the highway that just got damaged uh needs a top post because it's kind of saggy saggy uh and it looks very distracting or distracts from the look of the school it's not aesthetically thank you Aesthetics Aesthetics um so it's a combination of things so it's down through here across the middle school fix the middle school at the bus entrance the other side of the road which is the high school fixing that tenture route that goes across and then a couple repairs along the way

088so why did we not know that the Middle School fencing I mean because it should have qualified for that program so the program was a flat 220 which we received the full amount we ended up paying we ended up using all that and a little bit of plant facility ly funds to do what we did um I just believe they counted the as I like to call it prison yard bar wire post as meeting the 6 foot requirement and it does not okay um so we'll get rid of those lovely additions along that fence line so that it looks like a school not of prison yard [Music] fence does need to be replaced it does yeah it's old so you want to buy another vehicle yes so what that is with I know we're going

089to have a um a meeting with the board and go over some of the the 18 million and things like that I also want to bring up show the vehicles that we have currently we have two parked out back that are heavy duty but don't run one of them does run but it's got so many holes in floorboard that that emits exhaust into the cab so it's not a safe vehicle to drive at this time so we need a on ton flatbed basically be able to haul some of the heavier equipment that we have we can't get equipment up Timber Lake we're renting up there but the other part of that was going back to some of the deing because I can put a hopper on the back of that and be able to hit

090some of these local schools so essentially saving money from our plowing contracts and being able to provide facilities with the vehicle that's going to be able to haul the equipment as we need uh that's the cost of a used used along with the sprayer equipment that the request is for and that's that's an estimate based on um just a lot of the one ton pickups that I've that were you know 40 50,000 Mi right in that range that you know still have a lot of life left in them that's not going to cost 50 60,000 off a lot um our facilities director has done a great job of compiling our Fleet um where we're at with our Fleet we as the board we know um a lot of our vehicles within our facilities Fleet are

091aging um and it's not something other unless we have plant facility money or we've set aside money that we have money to purchase anything for so that's where this request is coming from to kind of help lip along the the productivity over there and help save us some money on rentals and things like that um and with the B so that's where this request is coming from so the money that we got from the state the 18 million or whatever none of this can be covered in that okay so then do we have the personnel with the knowledge and the capability to do this that needs to be done yes okay so when you bring this you say we're going to have a conversation when you bring this can you bring us like what did

092you look at what is it look like you know what is the savings here's what we're spending here's what we'll save you all that so we really get an idea of what yeah I I would definitely hear you part of this was just asking for the permission to reallocate so that we could do the leg work to get the quotes so that we can get permission when we BR you the quotes to make the purchase essentially um that's over the threshold all of these projects will be over the threshold that will require board approval purchase so that's we're just wanting to make sure that the line item is designated in the budget to do the work it's not worth our time unfortunately to do the lake work if it's not going to be something to

093that we're pre-approved for which makes it really tough with vehicles because we can get the right vehicle that we want but then it may not be there when we go to buy it talk to me talk to us about uh why we're replacing a boiler system in our newest school so Timber Lake or uh Twin Lakes I do this every time Twin Lakes Elementary Twin Twin Lakes Elementary has a five boiler array that Services the entire School one's already down the second one is limping along right now these boilers where's K oh there is he can probably talk to this better but correct me if I'm wrong and Shane's here as well so these systems that were installed were at a date when they were installed to begin with they were Antiquated they were past

094their they weren't the newest models so I'm guessing whoever did the install in the contract found a cheaper model and just stuck it in because it does not keep up with what it's supposed to be doing on top of that they're rated for residential so we're burning through them very quickly uh each one of these five arrays each one of those boilers is 15,000 to replace so the entire array itself would be 755,000 as we're replacing we could just replace the one now and it might get us along for another couple years that's you know always an option or we can replace it with a system that's actually meant to be in the building for 65,000 a one-time cost now it's going to save us over time it's going to give us that long warranty

095it's going to give us that longer life uh what are they R for 20 years 20 years 20 years for a new one Ken Harvest fa sorry K Harvest HB for maintenance um can I speak one more note on the old the boilers that are existing are aluminum heat exchangers and when they were installed they were not compatible with the glycol that they installed yes that ate some of our heat exchange for them we have replaced some of them in the past but they're no longer available circuit boards aren't available my my my issue with all of this is to me it's a reflection on the Architects because had they been doing their job properly we'd have had inspections to not allow that kind of equipment to be installed they happens to some of the

096best companies but I agree I think that the lead whoever the journeyman who was on the job should have could have caught it but it gets lost in those are those are some really unique situations where the glycols don't match aluminum and now since then I replaced the glycol we're trying to limp those along as long as we can I I I hear what you're saying but my point is if we had equipment that's installed in a brand new building it's the job of the engineering team that's part of the architectural team to make sure that whatever is installed is exactly what they specified now if they specified something that's not appropriate it still falls back on them if they didn't catch the fact that something was at allall that wasn't supposed to be it

097falls back on them so I I have a real concern about our work with Architects West in that regard so do you think it's some these were rated for residential when they were installed or do you think that just as time went along they've now become residential rated no no they they they knew what they were putting in okay uh I've seen this in a couple other buildings as well and it's it's cost savings you find something that is cheaper for you to purchase to install it works at the time and then you get a year or two down the road and you start having issues and the glycol took time to eat through before anyone even noticed that it was not um you said that you've noticed it in other building other buildings of

098ours no just in my experience okay sure okay so we would be taking the 215 or the 107 so uh our recommendation is to put 215 back into the line item for carpet continuation that we have initially took it from for Apple gwood Lakeland High School sprit Lake we're not 100% sure we may not need to do anything at Lakeland High School but the money would be sufficient to complete the projects at Applewood and Spirit Lake um so putting 215,000 back into that original $220,000 line item um and then um using 107 plus um some of the building and emergency repair funds that we have to be able to complete the other projects that were requested so that's your boilers at T um the fencing at Lakeland High School Lakeland Middle School uh purchasing some

099C custodial equipment so carpet extractors and cleaning equipment and then that fleet vehicle so that we are able to haul our own equipment and do dicing within um the local radius local radius so why don't we need the carpet projects continuing Apple Garwood the high school and Spirit Lake why why don't we need I'm asking to put money back into that line item oh to put it back for the carpet to do the carpet and take it from the sighting projects the sighting it's from um unused line items so uh the carpet abatement ended up costing us less we had quite a bit budgeted for that it's going to be what 45,000 I think Tim correct for so we had budgeted I think 210 we had at 210 for the carpet abatement at Lakeland Middle

100School we're only going to need to use about 45 of that so that allows us to put money back into the carpet continuation in addition to the sighting project change order and the tennis court project that we're not moving forward on because the quote from the company was not sufficient um for what needs to be done there so that we're basically asking to put money back into the original latem and then a permission to move forward with these other projects and the tile at Garwood Betty keeper we can use um as long as it meets IRS standards um we can use the 18 million to do that project so that other line item that's crossed out there um we're able to use uh we were notified when we were at a training at the beginning

101of this month when I missed the last board meeting um that the $18 million because it is Bond proceeds is uh subject to IRS audit to ensure we're using the funds appropriately um so I'm researching to make sure that what our understanding of useful life matches the IRS standard of useful life for a commercial so they have a list they can they do y but we techn we we tend to be a little bit more lengthy in our deferred maintenance than um the IRS will well so we're working on making sure when we come to for if uh the workshop that have all of that information available and of course that list is going to be 8,000 pages long so it's going to be hard to find what exactly what you need and we've outlined

102um based on what we had submitted to the state we've outlined some projects that we think will fully use that 18 million that should be the top priority so that's going to be our recommendation at that obviously it's at the board's discretion but we're trying to bring fully baked projects to you to kind of pick and choose from based on what what we know needs to be done as a priority in the buildings I'm trying to follow your math and I think I've lost $10,000 um so if the abatement [Music] project wait a minute these numbers are just okay what I'm trying to understand is number one why we wouldn't be putting the you want to put 215,000 back for what we allocated 220,000 mhm we do not want to put back the 40,000 that

103we allocated for the VCT Tile for Garwood and Betty keer why because we're able to accomplish that with the 18 million wouldn't we be able to accomplish that with the carpet as well we would yes okay yes I it's just um all right looking for we're trying to get quotes so we can get a lot of this work done this summer so that's why not having the facil uh School modernization Workshop done yet we're trying to get our ducks in a row so that we're efficiently getting projects completed the Summer where students are out of the building right and I understand that but um with the plant facility dollars those have to go to plant facilities correct uh Building Maintenance yes okay or fleet vehicles it's equipment Le vehicles or different maintenance okay we and

104that's where some of this requests cannot be the items that we had listed above there's a portion of them that cannot be used for the 18 what ones can't be used for um the fencing and the um fleet vehicle we have to take care of our buildings first before we can do like parking lots and fencing and sidewalks the actual building before you can we can do siding windows and doors I just can't do parking lots and stuff because we have so much work that needs to be done on Interiors to get the buildings to good or perfect as the state standard requires so undefined standard yeah they they feel very defied so how did we how did we miss the fence when we did the other fencing um again I believe what happened I

105wasn't on the walk through on that um it was done gosh last two last Bish um the work was done last spring what happened the fening on the Lakeland middle school has those like barb wire right um I believe they count it that in to the height of the fence um there's no barb wire in it so it doesn't technically meet the 6 foot and I don't recommend putting barb wire on it so that's that's where that was missed well does it technically count I mean even if you put straight wire in it doesn't count instead of I really would prefer our schools not to look like prisons I it's just aish thing of mine uh well the reason I'm asking is because I see a lot of things happening right here and I'm worried

106about everything up north and uh some of the other stuff that we had talked about like with I think it was Betty kefir that uh was it Betty kefir or John Brown that we kept waiting for is it floor sighing or one of those things so John Brown is sighing which is a project that we're going to bring to with the school modernization funds that's something that if we can get approval for that we feel confident that we would be able to get a bit out and get going on that if we can do it quickly um we've got a lot of the stuff ready to go just because we've done three buildings now so it be very easy for us to to work to get that done um there's there's a lot of projects

107in play with that 18 million that will address our Northern schools as well um it was just to comply with the fencing we're compant everywhere else that's why the request was for that specific portion of the fencing [Music] so we have a six foot fence around the football field here right no no not all the way around so this section that runs along Washington is 6ot but the one that runs along 41 is not is not it is not I can actually see over it I'm so excited it used to have like post that came up and then there was bar Wire yeah I know yeah and so when they when that isn't there we're not supposed to count that so the actual fence is like 4 and A2 ft we we went and measured

108it I promise we did take a picture next time okay I'll go stand next to it so you can see that it's not 6 fet or I can stand you can stand yes might be a little more obvious yeah [Music] to approve the recommendations from the CFO on the transfer of funds second let the motion indicate the dollar amounts that are being transferred we have a motion in a second I don't quite understand the motion so it's to do what the recommendation is 50,000 for the fence 65,000 for the boiler at tle 50,000 for the custodial equipment and 75,000 for fleet vehicle or just to transfer the so does a motion include all all inclusive all incl okay and then the 215 for the moving that back to the L yeah for the carpet so

109we have a motion in a second all in favor say I I opposed May motion failed I think my thing is I want to really be uh make sure that these all of these things get done and the reason I'm uh because we so many times in the past when we've said okay we're going to go do this or go do that and we turn around it doesn't get done and then the movies Money's been put here or there or or wherever so trust you gu I might hear you on that um since I've been in this role with Tim um over facilities projects are getting completed quickly and on time um so I have no doubt we had a lot of conversations on is this doable is this doable this summer um I've been

110tracking this these line items specifically for two years based on board approval and so it comes to every month so you can see exactly where the progress is with it so I hear your concern and we're doing everything to mitigate that and complete the work so I I I do have full faith that this will get done in an appropriate amount of time I actually have losing my voice actually I've scheduled um at least three if not more flooring companies to be able to walk through the schools during spring break so they can get us appropriate bids as well well I personally would like the Monies to go back to what we had initially allocated the 220 for uh AAL gwood Lakeland High School and Spirit Lake and the 40,000 uh for VCT Tile with

111Garwood and Betty kefir I don't see any problem with putting the monies back there um that then leaves you with a balance of $62,000 not which would not accomplish all of the four projects listed up the top um but that being said I would think that putting the money back where we initially had it then we're going to do another facilities Workshop to address the um$ 18 million upon projects at that time I think it would behoove us to reflect on where we have money allocated that is apparently not encumbered and do we need to modify what we had previously done in that Workshop I I think it's it's just challenging because um it happens it has happened a lot in the past I'm not saying with you I'm not saying with him I'm saying

112from experience where concrete was this group this true my concrete we're still waiting on it's going to B on April 7th the frustration is we say let's go in this direction we go in this direction and then something says no we have to go in that direction and then oh no we're not going in that we're going over here so I think it would behoove us to put the money back where it came from and we can schedule that facil um Workshop post paste and discuss it all at that time and that would still be enough to do the fencing at least the 62,000 two separate there's actually group of money quite a bit of money there if you look at the emergency repair funds and the building funds which is what we were getting

113to with if you take the 107 plus um so there was 62,000 left from what uh chair Thompson just said and you have on this that you gave us the projected amount of 50,000 MH right so um I apologize if I didn't put this out there clearly within the line items below we have money left in the emergency repair funds um there's two line items for that there's about 117 118,000 there and the in the building budgets there's money left in the building budgets as well that we could utilize toward these purchases we're just asking to change those line items to reflect the line items that we're requesting above so when you take all of it into account yes we 1,000% could put the 220 back and the 45 back I would request that we

114do approve the boiler system so we can get moving on that because that is an issue that we're having that is emergent um the rest of it can wait absolutely um and we can start working on the quotes for the carpet and stuff like that it's just we were bringing you our recommendation related to the plant facility Levy funds um based on their current line item budgets that we have been adhering to based on board permission so wouldn't the boiler be covered in the 18 million that wouldn't be covered in the 18 million it could but it's not a priority based on what we submitted to the state um really it's the fire suppression systems the electrical systems um sighting and H and H it is hbac and yes we could do it in there

115so yes absolutely we could yeah the the um some of the other items that they have up on the top we can't use the 18 million I think that's what understand that but going back to what chair Thompson was saying we could do that it would just be you know at least get the fining done um with that and then just when we have our other meeting to go over all of these things and take into account the boiler and the uh all of these other things um and look at the vehicles too since you're going to bring that to us I mean it might be more than one that we need to purchase you know maybe but we can't we can't use the 18 million I get that I understand that I would amend

116my recommendation for I think my next line actually two two items two budget or the J5 um we could make it a plant facility Levy and school mization funds Workshop um and it at that point in time um at the board's discretion so move your next to that we're on here to those I'm just saying we can compy that to the workshop so if the board does wants to consider it in whole the remainder of this budget plus the $1 million we can do that in one Workshop if that's the board's discretion we are just trying to get moving on some projects for the summer so in utilizing so we've not had any emergency repairs for this school year we uh we used we had we didn't hardly touch the emergency repairs fund um from

117last fiscal year so the FY 24 line item the majority of that was used this year so we had set 100,000 aside we up the FY l so there 17,000 left there so that leaves us 100,000 that we didn't have to touch this year um so that's where some of the Salvage is coming from same with the building budgets we haven't had to make sess purchases part of that is because we were able to do we've been very efficient I would say um and really looking at what we had in storage um looking what we could do in house to save some money that kind of stuff we have definitely done things um the rooftop units can see the whole list respectfully um if we put the money back where it was supposed to be

118in the first place um that we moved to accomplish something that we found out is going to cost us left based on my calculations of going back into those emergency funds Etc it appears that you would be $ 55,8 74 short and accomplishing everything by putting the money back and then you would be $55,000 short on your estimated projects so for me that would mean either the custodial equipment would need to wait or the fencing which I don't think the fencing should wait but um it would get you the other items unless you wanted to maybe you know you could do the boiler and maybe the fleet vehicle weights or you could I mean that would give you room to figure out from your four line items um what you might be willing to hold

119off on until we can all sit down with all of the projects that need to come for us to reprioritize but we're putting money back where it came from that that's my thing I would like to see it go back to where it came from okay so does that make sense what I'm saying is did the math equal up um or am I off CU that's always a possibility I wasn't clear on the pulling of emergency funds adding into all these other numbers so that's what kind of threw me off in the first place [Music] by my calculations we would be left if we put all the line items back exactly as they were and then did the four purchases above we would have 45,000 left um in the plant facility funds that would either

120be left in building budgets or emergency repairs I'm looking specifically at line item um FY 24 building budgets the remaining funds there is $5,185 FY 24 emergency repair funds the remaining balance is 17874 um if you look at uh the emergency repairs and building budgets for FY 25 there's 200,000 there and then the 107 for the pro the sighting um change orders so we can do it all yeah we can do it all and have money left over okay then I would make a motion to reallocate back into fiscal year 25 the Apple Elementary Garwood Elementary LHS SLE continuation of $220,000 to the that money back um to put back the $40,000 to the BCT tile Garwood Elementary BK and cafeteria and then through the utilization of the remaining uh emergency repair funds for fiscal

121year 24 and the emergency repair funds for fiscal year 25 utilizing those to accomplish whatever projects the district feels that it can accomplish that's listed on their list second so we have a motion and a second do we need any further discussion I I just have one question if we utilize if I understanding your motion I'm not sure I do uh but if we utilize emergency repair funds for FY and we only have 7 ,000 remaining for fy4 then that gives us $177,000 to finish out this year in terms of emergencies so with the emergency funds and the building budgets there would be $45,000 left based on my motion Bob no because their recommendation is to utilize all of those monies that was when you made your motion it was to accept their recommendation the

122recommendation was to utilize the 20 fiscal year 24 emergency plan and the fiscal year 25 emergency funds um and my mouth calculation didn't include that but in essence I am agreeing with that they want to utilize the funds to accomplish their four projects up here what I hear CFO Grandam stating is she will also need to pull from the building budgets um which I am not including that in my motion I am simply including the emergency repair funds in my motion all all of the emergency repair funds that's what the district has asked for so that's I if that's how they want to utilize the money um to accomplish these missions they can but I base this motion on the fact that I know we're going to be coming to the table here right quick

123and if we need to revamp fiscal year 25's allocations we can at that time okay okay I'm not saying we will but we can look at everything to see if we need to so we have a motion in a second yes I forgot where we were right we have a motion in a second all in favor say I I I any oppos hearing none the motion carries thank you you're welcome okay moving on to the bus food Thompson I have two fun things for you in this Oney um so we did go out to bid for gas buses um one of the vendors no longer uh manufactures gas buses so they provided a diesel bid so we requested diesel bids as well um those are the top um bids you see here um the recommendation

124is to go with harlos as they're able to deliver uh four diesel buses pretty quickly um based on their production schedule to the district this is a change we currently do not have well we have a couple diesel we have diesels we just haven't been purchasing them sorry Transportation directors um so and the the repair facility for that is fairly close we use RWC quite a bit out of Spokan um the the other part of this is the conversation around activity buses we've been doing a lot of Lake work to see what we could find um because we do have money still in uh the board approved projects for the purchase of um those activity buses since uh who was it har har canceled the order um so harlos now currently has two of them

125on their lot that we could purchase there's a company um Northwest Bus Sales that also has two that are cheaper or they actually have three their lot and then Jess did get a quote for a used one that I did not have the information to bring to the board she received it today so I did not have it to put into the packet so I have kind of two separate requests here one is the approval to purchase for diesel buses from haros using the bus depreciation fund which there are plenty of funds in there um they will be able to deliver them this calendar year which is fantastic for our Fleet um and then the second would be to um request approval of two activity buses um so that we're able to transport um our

126Athletics and co-curriculars using our own vehicles and not having to rely on the big yellow buses or the um Charters wasn't it harlos that increased the price on us and wouldn't allow us to harow did provide a bid bond this time so and it was Bryson that increased the price on y so um the last time we went out to a bus bed I would like to remind the board that nobody would provide a bid Bond and we only had one V respond um I do feel that now that they're able to manufacture better they're um all of the companies responded with a bid Bond and they were they're all able to and we had more people respond this time last time we literally had one company respond to our request for proposals for buses

127so it's great to see more competition I guess in that Arena so they're not the people that uh well we had sort of two incidences one they raised the cost on us and then another one saying they were going to deliver going to deliver going to and then there was it but that was so who was that so har that and that was for activity buses not school buses so it's kind of a separate thing those are a little I wouldn't say a niche vehicle but they're not a vehicle that is right well they kept telling us they were going to deliver and they never came and then they never came through but behold they have some on their lock that and the reason that they couldn't deliver on that contract is because the manufacturer

128that they were contracted with went out of business is what they told us so do we know um if there [Music] is what there would be uh in Savings in going to diesels as opposed to having gasoline um you like mileage wise or maintenance cost yeah I don't know that mileage wise we would save anything but uh fuel expense maintenance Etc is there it's pretty similar um our mechanics like the gasoline buses better because they don't have all the um sensors on them the sensors are pretty expensive to replace um however with looking at how far out the gasoline um buses would get delivered their recommendation is to go with diesels for this one time yeah because they pleaded with us not to order any more diesels because the cost was prohibitive the additive was

129prohibitive they were constantly breaking down even when they replac the sensors half of the the sensors didn't I mean there was a lot of issue that's why they asked us not to so I'm sort of surprised that now they want us to go back right the cost of diesel which I guess it's right about same as gasoline and part of that recommendation is Brayson no longer has a local um service Bay um we would have to take the buses to pman which puts them out of Fleet for quite a bit of time versus Western Mountain which would be at in Hayden um or harlos which is out of Spokane so that was part of our consideration um not looking at I have it down there in the notes of why we are recommending not taking

130the lowest bid on this is because we were looking at multiple factors one the delivery timeline to where the service center is for warranty work um and then the cost is pretty comparable really when you look at it it's not it's not super far off for any of these vendors specific to the school buses and where would we take this money from uh the for the school buses themselves from the bus depreciation fund so that is fund uh 424 um currently there's uh once we make the there's more I need to fix that number once we make the transfer we'll have plenty of money to purchase the um okay yeah so you say 421 give me one second yeah 498,000 and that's oh that's the activity buses yeah so the it's it's only going to

131be 498 533 um for no that's the board I need a math so I guess I it's the money's there we already set it aside for this purpose it's specific to those purposes yeah okay right that's why still hav concerned about the diesel thing because they it was costing a lot of money and the sensors we were having issues with even the sensors that were being replaced were bad I mean the manufacturing with the additive and all I mean it was sort of a nightmare we're actually starting to see a lot of issues with the gasoline buses too um Post Falls they've recently got some Bluebird buses and they had some major issues with them and some of their new buses were down for a couple months why they were waiting to get into the

132warranty center to get fixed so another reason why you know lesser of the two evils for right now right well that's what they think I'm just curious of what the cost is going to be um for the four buses it's $588,500 schedule so then how many buses would that give us in our Fleet are we replacing or are we just adding two or what are we so we have currently three buses with blown Motors that need about $30,000 worth work so um I think our current Fleet is sitting right at like 45 buses I believe so but with the ones that with the with them okay so 41 and this would put us up to 45 I believe yeah not the exact but so that's the first part of this request so I'm just trying

133to follow your uh language for uh funding of these you say the amount due to be paid to close out window sighting door projects is roughly $889,000 what does that mean it says oh I that's on the activity buses correct um so for fun 421 the current Endy balance of that is a little short of $500,000 um we have $ 89,000 that we have to pay out on the bond um to pay the subcontractors for Emer because that's part of that fund So currently in that fund the projects that are authorized were the window sighting and doors for Lakeland Middle School Apple Spirit Lake and then these activity bu those are the the four approved projects out of that fund currently um so there's half a million roughly in there if you take out the

13489,000 and you take out the purchase of these two activity buses there would still be about $200,000 left in that fund for board discretion and our athletic directors would really really appreciate these buses cuz they would not have a cost um for driving these buses with the coach is driving them because non CDL so then and they're compliant with eye crimp that's always a fantastic thing um so we're able to take our kids in the smaller ones for our smaller groups and not have to take a big yellow bus with us so the four that you're recommending which vendor the vendor would be harlos for that um they would be able to deliver one in April or May of this year and the rest would be in October okay um and what's the body manufacturer

135um let me scroll down um I can tell you not blir not Bluebird it's the International International International sorry I'm not a mechanic International Western mountain is Thomas yeah Bryson is Bluebird Western mountain is Thomas and harlos is international yes okay from Harlow's diesel engine mhm International body MH how many buses do we have that have international body we have quite a few most of our diesels are found yeah so they they don't rattle apart they hold together no they're actually my favorite buses today all right where you um the activity buses are kind of a separate request um just hearing from our activity directors as just that it was a failed purchase in the past so we were bringing forward some Solutions on that now that again they seem to be more readily available

136um like I said harlos has two on their lot that's available um Northwest Bus Sales which a lot of uh districts in the state use they have three available that we could go pick up tomorrow if we wanted to um and they're quite a bit cheaper um about $12,000 cheaper than harlos on that purchase um for those and then um the quote that we got today was just for one used bus but it was used on a 2017 yes it had just under 10,000 miles on it that's and how much for that I I'd have to look at my let me see what year was it 2017 they have a 2019 and a 2020 uh diesel both of them um one the 2020 has 30,000 uh and cumins and the 2019 has 46,000 also a

137cumin diesel the one the 2020 is a 47 passenger the 2019 is a 72 and uh they're both one 685 and other one is 695 so we could go with all use that we didn't bring that information for um we just happened to get the use quote today are those yellow buses yeah so the uh uh yes there the buses yep so I found the 2017 uh Bluebird 295 yeah it's only a 14 passenger one it's the yeah that's not this one um we wouldn't be able to do the Ford because it's not the mfsab um we we are required by I crimp um and currently it's Idaho Statute to have M MFS designation for activity buses um so what yeah oh I knew you were going to ask me cuz you know I hate

138acon so that's why don't either I kept asking Jessica today I'm like am I saying that right it's the multifunction school activity bus so there's a specific designation that's a safety thing on the insurance will cover it because it has that designation so one of the ones that's on um Bryson's har with Bryson's site it does not have that designation so we're not able to purchase that at this time so okay that so multifunction school activity bus thank you for that you're very welcome I appreciate it so the two activity buses that you're recommending are the the designation of MSB and they're um brand new and they're $112,000 from Northwest Bus norest each each yes so we would still have about $200,000 left in the board approv projects fund after that purchase and you're saying

139purchase two of them yes please unless you want to buy the used one too and then we can have [Laughter] three well we each well we were originally talking about doing four of them two for each High School um price gone up but I think getting getting two of them is start it it's finally you know something that a get them tomorrow if you want me to I'll be happy to you you that'll be fun legally drive it yeah yeah you don't need a c we just that's why I volunteered we just had a situation where we had Lakeland and Timberlake were going to share a bus and they were going was it golf can't remember what the tournament no the one that that it broke down last minute and they were scrambling to find

140a way to get kids to the tournament and they were looking at like a 12 passenger B which I was told us they will not cover and so um I had to ask them to find Min that they could transport the kids in and so to have the these activity buses will be um helpful the charter bus the charter bus book down not our bus right no it's Charter yeah just it was not our bus the last minute and um the transportation department um scrambled were scrambling so yeah I would move to approve the two four buses from Harlow's and the two activity buses from Northwest Bus Sales I'll second we have a motion in a second all in favor say I I I any oh yes yeah thank you so much you thank you

141thank you so much our director appreciate you they're going to really appreciate you one for up north and one for down here why don't they let us use those funds to buy the multifunction I mean it's still um so the state the transportation reimbursement does not allow us to um claim the viage teral is that Dave it might be it might want to go to the front door the door's locked oh the front door lock you just scared um so the multifunction school activity buses are not part of we can't fill it to Transportation so if they will fully live within the in Scholastic activities budget all of the repairs maintenance the drivers for that will all live within the school activities budget um not at the school level but at at at our level

142um we can't charge them to transportation we will receive no additional reimbursement from them okay so right thank you thank you I I'm just staying up here all night you guys she actually asked if she could just sit next to me the facil work session request f okay so this isn't necessarily an action item we just need to SL just a request to do it to set a date okay I just do have your C I do okay pick a eight and this is one we'd like to move quickly on just so we could get projects done this summer tomorrow sure I'd love to we've got policy counsil tomorrow but maybe we can do it before I don't think that's enough time to notice it though we're not canceling policy to do for that next

143Wednesday we have Town Hall at how fire department next Wednesday 530 with Tuesday the 2th Monday or Tuesday I have to be at B ke on Tuesday night football on Monday why you think a stop schedu oh I can I can miss that I have other coaches out there it doesn't look like you have anything on Monday Lisa um no I'm I'll be traveling back from on Monday but I should be back in time for 6:00 okay what day are we talking Monday March 24th okay Monday the 24th at 6: p.m MH you don't care to choke you thank you for your time on that one Monday 24th then we have the College and Career advisor date [Music] funding for [Music] respectfully what I had asked at the meeting was um to understand why if

144we have a specific line item for College and Career advisers are we just putting that in the general fund can I finish okay thanks why we are just using that as discretionary money and putting it in the fund Etc um it was uh Chelsea that said that you know she wanted she she felt that what you meant was and I don't like to go that route so I just wanted to hear from you why if we have a line item for College and Career funding are we utilizing that for something other than College and Career funding we are not using it for anything but college and Cur funding um in the FY 25 budget impact paragraph um we use reutilize the College and Career advisor special distribution from the state to uset the cost of

145our two classified College and Career advisors this is one full position at each High School um the total salaries and benefits budgeted for those two positions for this fiscal year was $134,400 our anticipated um distribution from State funds we've received 80% of those so far is 125,340 from the state to cover the rest um the shortfall because there is a shortfall so yes we are 100% absolutely using the College and Career adviser distribution to pay for the College and Career advisor positions where this came from as far as the discretionary comment um when we were talking about budget reductions in November December January um we could based on the way State Statute is written utilize those funds to pay for guidance counselors um our guidance counselors are not fully funded by the state um we

146actually have more than we technically need so they could assume these duties not more than we need more St more than the state provides I apologize we need our guidance counselors I don't want anybody to ever interpret that I did I said that way but um we could utilize it okay I'm GNA I just want to stop you right there um my struggle is when what was brought to us by the superintendent was to eliminate the college and career visor and I don't understand why we would be eliminating a position that we receive funding on and then the motion got made that we would put the funding for the College and Career on the backs of the two high schools I don't agree with that and I wanted some understanding as to how did we

147determine that we were going to take a line item for positions that we are funded for and we're just going to say we don't don't need them anymore so Idaho codee 3312a um part two um States specifically that we can use the funding for either a non-certificated stuff which is what we currently do or the alternative form of advising would be um a to counselor teacher parent professional as an adviser and Mentor so that is our interpretation as far as we could make the cut for the two classified positions and use our certificated staff that are counselors and use this funding to help offset the cost of those positions as those positions are not fully funded from the state so that is where that how is that with all of the other counselors that we

148have within our district we have two College and Career advisers that we receive a line item funding for we receive funding for all the other counselors so that's salary based apportionment and we don't receive the full cost of those additions have we ever considered going back to those buildings and asking them to fund their counselors in some capacity cuz we felt it okay to go back to the high schools and say fund these two counselors have we ever considered that that wasn't our motion or our recommendation well your recommendation was to cut the two College and Career advising positions I don't think they should be cut whatsoever and we do receive funding for it so I believe that funding should go for those positions it does that's not a current cut that was approved so

149that's not part of the 2 million was my motion added them back right to on the backs of the high schools that you the motion was that each High School figure out how to cut 85,000 from their budget for to to keep the College and Career advisers no it was and the the trash or what the there was one other service garbage services because it was my understanding that the high schools wanted to make that decision on what positions they that would be cut it wasn't just slapping this on their backs that's not at all what I did that was not at all my intention okay which I respect that I just get it's very frustrating knowing that all the reductions that we keep going that we that the district keeps trying to provide appear

150to fall on the backs of the high schools and when we are getting funding for College and Career advisors I think those positions should receive the funding that they're getting allocated for and I put them back in based so I don't understand what the argument is they were put back in in in my motion so why why do we keep revisiting this and why is it that the high schools need to fund the College and Career advisors when we receive them they don't we have the money for it okay so how are we funding the College and Career advisors we're using College and Career funding from the state okay so then why are we do why are we reducing the high school budgets um asking them to cut another 85,000 out of their that is

151at their discretion on how they choose to do that and we're not asking them to cut that position that is up to them on how they would like to do that so they have to cut other positions to come up for that $85,000 is that correct a little short at $85,000 or through attrition or through attrition it doesn't have to be Personnel yeah okay where did the $85,000 it's actually 81 um basically when you factored back in the cost of the garbage service um there was $161,500 per building um at their discretion on how they would like to cut that and I would say we in our recommendations we are trying to be as Equitable as you can be when you're cutting to2 million dollars every single Department in this district is feeling the impact

152of this our elementary schools are losing building lab text and school clerical um and not I'm not trying to downplay what we're asking our high schools to do by any stretch of the imagination I'm just saying that every single Department in this district is being impacted by the $2 million dollars in Cuts yeah I think understand a lot of them don't understand what actually we're legally obligated to have like a lot of people have talked about music or some of the Arts or whatever well we have to supply that that's not up for cutting just like getting just like the College and Career advisors there's no debate on whether they go or stay they have to Idaho code does allow us to use that money for certificated counselors which is where the conversation came from

153in the cut so if Idaho code 33 1212a part two section A Part Two specifically states that we can use it as a high contact program using a counselor teacher par professional as advisor or Mentor so that was where the recommendation was coming from because we do not receive full funding from those positions from the state we could utilize the College andc advisor money because it's allowed by State Statute to fund those positions but that issue is not mov it's a non-issue it's now mov because we've already remedied Okay so this was just a follow up just immediate trying yeah just trying to have some understanding I think so no action needs to be taken on that thank you um moving on to the fa's job descript now we're all under the understanding that we

154approve these job descriptions it doesn't mean that you just get to go out and hire one of each of one of these so the goal well actually we we are planning on on posting the positions because the job descriptions have changed and so um to be fair um and because some of the positions that are currently held are not going to be a position position anymore we're getting rid of all the lead positions in the in the department so we had that conversation that we would rewrite the job descriptions for the for the positions that we need in our facilities department and then our current facilities staff can apply for whichever ones will fit their qualifications and then but this wouldn't be until next school year correct it starts next school year so we that's

155what I'm saying we're not just going to go out and hire six new positions this year and then oh we have extra the point of this to the restructure is to allow us to um handle the attrition that's part of the $2 million in budget cuts as well who put the job descriptions together um our facilities director Tim um HR and myself did look them over just to make sure that they were grammatically correct um and that they met the requirement that HR needed but Tim did The Lion Share of the work on this rhr department put in the correct format okay what's the very last item on each job description other duties as assigned yes yes thank you we're all wear it we all we all wear that hat yes so the just so

156you know uh trusty Bane to your question about timeline um uh we will post these positions um in April in April um do the pro go through the process and um the interview process and identify which of our people will hold which of these jobs and those new these new titles will start on Janu or July 1 it'll be open to the public as well July so they the positions will be open to the public as well um we do not currently have a license electrician on staff or hope is to be able to hire and then we do have we do have to have um the one the loss of the um we have one person who's retiring but then we also have another loss that we need to kind of work out and

157so we wanted to do this early enough that they'll continue to work through June 30th but if um if they don't have this job then they have opportunity to go find a job we also have some head custodians who are resigning and so it's possible that somebody from facilities um can fill M the attention too is to have the process done in time so that the budget is built appropriately um the only position that we would anticipate in hiring more than one would be the facilities mainten maintenance technician all of the other positions that are listed would be just one F and with that said what would the total be total number of positions currently we have 13 and we need to cut to 11 it's going to be 11 so a is one per

158building essentially he he gets to stay too maybe move to approve the job descriptions just presented second we have a motion in a second the only thing that I would like like to add is in the past we've talked about um putting a date on the app the job description so that we know when we last reviewed them you believe at the bottom there is a date at the very bottom that says um the date the board was approved and the date revised it should be at the bottom if it's not we'll make sure it's there and reflect reflect tonight's um date if it's so I am looking I am looking at facilities maintenance technician so it's not on the HB oh on the H it uh went over to the top of page uh

159four okay that's where it is we'll just correct form yeah okay we'll make sure it reflects appropriately perfect oh yeah but you're right the other one does not have it and that is uh the H does not we will put those on there for sure all right so we have a motion in a second all in favor say I any opposed hearing none the motion carries thank you mov thank you moving on to the stem Charter mou I have one I have one question about this so we have these six positions which obviously the salaries and benefits and all that but yet we have all this stuff laid out on the levy of teachers that we can't afford so how is it that we reconcile these six positions opposed to the teachers or whomever might

160get cut if the levy doesn't pass so these we would still be able to hire these six but we wouldn't be able to keep the teachers these are not these are not new people we're we're we're right now we have 13 we're going down to 11 but we have we're restructuring okay so that we are being more efficient okay all right so we're not hiring six new position this was okay I just want that yes and there more than one technician um we didn't want to call it a facilities maintenance worker so um so um so anybody who doesn't have the other title would have to be a technician okay that's fine thank you y so do we need to have conversation on the uhou for stem Charter Academy yeah I based on input from

161iamp and from our attorney if our bus drivers are driving and they're on our buses um it's our liability so I think Megan had said you know you could rent the bus and allow them to drive which makes me super uncomfortable so um I know we try to be good neighbors and help out but um and Cal just going to get the money cuz they're already doing it well we where C Lane rest their buses right now corane rents their buses out to stem yeah they rent buses out to groups oh um well I didn't I didn't know that Scott was doing that he didn't tell me that he um they've been working with us to may you just ask them what they're doing for the liability part of it going to be the same

162if it's our if our if it's our bus and we allow somebody else to drive it it's still our insurance poliy that it's the same thing as if you're transporting students in a private vehicle the owner of that private vehicle stands theci so if we're going to absorb or at least recognize that the liability lies with us I would much rather have our people driving our housses than to rent them out to somebody we don't know they I would agree with that you know if that necessitates an adjustment in what we're charging them and so be it how often do we I know we went to this before but it was minimal was like five times a year maybe more than me give me one you believe it's less I yeah I don't I don't

163think it's very often is it true that we've been doing it for 14 years uh since Dr R was here there was a handshake and an agreement but nobody put it in writing and uh our transportation director didn't know that we didn't know because that's what she inherited so she there was no reason for her to talk to us about it so it wasn't until we all inherited it right so it wasn't until the bus uh tried to turn and fog and I centered itself on a on a hill that we learned that so superintendent Arnold yes um we they used us seven times in fiscal year 24 and only three times so far this year how many times in 24 seven and they paid for what when they used them they paid all of

164the mileage uh they paid the just the mileage not what about the cost of the driver that's what we're correcting with us mou oh they just paid for the mileage that's how we were charging all the trips then I see and what were what were they paying for the mileage then it was dependent on our state reimbursement okay okay yeah these dates are weird though it's hard to I was just wondering if the the dates are out of order I just realized on my it really out of order Maria is really upset with me that was a late night I apologize we have to get we're trying to get used to the two yeah board meeting dates because we feel like we're constantly pring for the next board meeting so they keep sneaking in on

165us and the $46 came from that's our state reimbursement rate year okay so basically the same thing we're just saying right oh and and the salary and benefit cost for the driver got and then to trusty Jones point if we're the ones who will be liable if there's s of an accident if you wanted to add right some kind ofil I think they'll understand that uh he said that he does you know they'll pay whatever we feel is fair they they want to make sure they're paying their full well they're not going to get into the business of training drivers and doing all that kind stuff you know that I'm just surprised that whatever Insurance they're carrying wouldn't I mean it's fine we use our drivers but I'm just surprised that whatever Insurance they're carrying

166would not transfer you know that the coverage that they had wouldn't be transferable depending on what vehicle they're driving this is odd for business right yeah but okay so this is for our driver our bus is $46 a mile plus whatever that cost is and for them to have the liability of the $2 million page which I would think they already have some or we would just need a writer on their policy well their Pol according to I their policy it would be our insurance policy that will pay because it's our bus so right but are we going to require them to carry some kind of liability or no cuz we're going to just because the liability is ours but I think because it'll be our liability I think uh trusty Jones is suggesting that

167we we increase what we're charging compensate compensate could we potentially Chelsea brought a great Point could we potentially put in there that if there is a insurance payout that they're responsible for that liability um I don't know that you can legally do that okay I just throw that out there because their insurance company's not going P I wouldn't do that without consulting what I care right the other thing is just our deductible portion of it whatever our liability is so we have to pay $25,000 because the bus was in an accident that they would be responsible for that cost because it's their trip um shouldn't we actually calculate a flat rate based upon our burden and overhead all encompassing instead that's part of the $46 that um really cheap for a person in Insurance the

168person will be charged separately so the the transportation it'll be their salary and benefits for that specific trip okay um and we should do it that way I think we should do it differently well looking at what entertain build I mean either these people aren't going very far um like around the block maybe I don't know I mean $862 to use a big bus so the thing with it previous two now is we were only charging the state reimbursement rate they were not being charged for the drivers um so we're fixing that with this okay yeah the day that they high centered they were picking the kids up to take them to Leon is that what the the $1,100 for so we charged them $1,100 to drive to Leon yes at the $46 reimbursement rate

169huh [Music] okay you're still waiting replied from I crimp on the M yeah I sent him and I um I sent him a nudge too just check him back in I haven't heard from him so I don't he's usually really fast at responding so he may be on vacation but I have not heard back from him we're still not under a time constraint with s they're just waiting um he did reach out and ask if there if we if where we were in the process because I think they've got a trip that they'd like to be able to reach out to us and and uh utilize our buses but until the is there anything I mean are we waiting on something back from I crimp or oh we are so we can't approve it anyways

170so I so we did a motion to table is that where we're at yeah U the uh the board had asked me to U because Chad in his response to me had said I'm happy to look at theou if you want me to so I sent it to him but I haven't heard back from him so okay I make a motion to table the student Charter mou until we hear back and then we can schedule it in the in the meeting yeah okay second we have a motion in a second all in favor say I any opposed hearing none the motion carries moving on to Chromebooks um myself so um as the board is aware we have had a little um bit of an issue over at um Lakeland Middle School specifically with regard to

171Chromebooks it sounds like um one of our students was taught how to go around our um firewall and security system through a proxy called proxy proxy and um so once you put that into the your address bar and you go there and I am not a technology person but it allows you to go to sites um that our firewall wouldn't allow and then um it when it when there's a history search it doesn't show that our kids were places they shouldn't have been so it's been very hard to track um in meeting we met with two sets of parents um uh one of the the um things that came up was there is a there there are software programs that we can use in conjunction with our firewall which as soon as a kiddo puts

172a certain word into the search bar um if it's a word that is problematic there's an alert that goes to the principal and to the teacher so they can right away um get on the computer see what's what it's being used for um croxy proxy would be one of those things because we know that that's how they're getting around our firewall um the other issue that we just found out that we are having is um our kids are very technologically savvy and so even though they don't have their cell phones out when they're at school they're in their backpacks or they're in their pockets but they have their personal hotspot on and so the other thing that they're doing is going to the Chromebook uh Wi-Fi setting and they are changing from this District's Wi-Fi

173to their hot spot and now there is no Fireball they can do whatever they want at that point so um some of the things we talked about um over at Lakeland Middle School is um if the kids are on their Chromebooks the classwise display is on the Whiteboard for everybody kind of to see um which might keep the kids in check a little bit but then it allows the teacher to be moving around and still be able to look up and see one of the um one of the misunderstandings we had to clear up is um when the kids go outside of our firewall and go to a site that that they're no longer on our system their SC their screen goes gray in classwise and um teachers just assumed that the the the program

174was not working properly on the computer because they had no idea the kids could get to where they were going so um we've had to do a little bit of um also staff education about um some of these things and um it's hard I feel like right now we're having a hard time in it and this is I checked with um our two High School principles the two Comprehensive High School principles and the Timberlake Middle School principal they are um they are not aware of or um having issues like this um and so probably not aware right so um but there's a little more maturity at the high school level to they they but anyway yeah you're right it's what do we know right but it is hard to always stay on top of this

175because I think the kids in a lot of ways are a lot smarter about technology than the adults in the room and they have figured out ways to kind of get ahead of us and so um when we met with the parents I did let them know that because they had reached out to the board that I was going to add this as an agenda item to get some direction from the board um above and beyond what we're already doing and then um we would get back to the uh let the parents know kind of what this conversation was I did invite them to come to tonight's board meeting also so to begin with I don't think isolating it to a school is um it's just right now that's where we're getting the information and

176like I said it it's but the information's been around for years I mean I say you shut down the internet until you figure out what's going on well the thing is is is number one I find it very very very very hard to believe knowing what little bit I know about these machines that they issue to everybody that they can't tell where somebody's been regardless of the internet connection number two you're never going to it's not a person's fault it's not anything it's technology doesn't matter what you do you're never going to stop them from bypassing the network period it will that just will never happen it's impossible right that's why everything's hacked continuously um yeah you can educ at the teachers a little bit and they can look and say oh your screen shouldn't

177be gray or whatever but it's it's the cost of putting technology into kids' hands and here's the other thing is not only that but some of the things that we think are safe for kids to be in whether it's curriculum whether it's games learning games whatever they are so full of pedophiles it is ridiculous and they they wait in there for children and they pose themselves as children and I don't care if you're in a school you're at home you're sitting at you know the fast food place whatever it's as soon as you put technology in a child's hand you have opened them up to that world so there's nobody to quote blame yeah we could look yeah we could say I mean I just it's impossible that they can I mean they know where

178the machine's at they know what what the machine is at access they know where if they don't then you need a whole new technology department if they can't tell by the profile of every single person that logs on where they've been and what they're doing on a piece of equipment you own because here's the other thing is there's a lot of fishing that goes on and there's also a lot of of inhouse stuff that goes on and I and I can think of off the top of my head the hacking but what they do is they create a social engineering hacking they create a relation reltionship with the person inside right and the next thing you know you're siphoned for millions of dollars or whatever else personal information credit card information because they got one

179of these kids to be one of their friends so as soon as you put technology into their hands that's just the world you've opened them up to um and there and there's a couple of people there's a guy out there zero day he used to be a bad hacker now he's a white hat hacker um but he does all those things for free you know and he'll look your network and tell you exactly where all of it and his number one thing is is hunting down these pedophiles but doesn't matter what school it's at that's all irrelevant whether they learned it or not I mean it's not a matter of learning the these proxies like hide my ass or whatever you're out there using they've always been around I mean that's technology 101 our guys

180I'm sure know that they have to know that um and you once they go around our Network there's nothing we can do about it right and that's just the nature of the Beast it's unfortunate that these kids who have that knowledge we can't harness to funnel it in the right direction right well so I don't think there's anybody to blame the only way you're going to get rid of it and I know the parents are all up in arms over it and stuff but kids are going to do everything you tell them not to do right and when you tell them they can't break it they're going to break it so that's that's where we're at unless you remove um the technology out of their hands and it becomes more controlled at a computer lab

181or something like that there's this is just the nature of the Beast it will never go away it's always going to be there and you know the the world is just so people just do not understand that that world on a on a daily basis it is really really really really really bad you know really bad and as soon as we put I mean might as well hand him a firearm in some instances it's the same thing so and then we want to get II curriculum and give it to them like we can't do that but anyways that's the that's the bottom line unless you remove the Chromebook it's just that's the world that we're in so are you familiar at all with um some of the software programs that that you can use that

182like Gaggle is the one that I can think of off the top of my head where if a student types in um naked that it sends an alert immediately to the administrator and the teacher so that they can get to the the student before um you can get all that for free you don't even have to buy it I mean hacking 101 you can put a key logger and know every single little key that's pressed on the machine and who it belong to I mean that's what I'm saying this is rudimentary technology 101 and for us not to have habit is crazy but I mean I been you know I feel like the broken record I've been saying it since I've been sitting here and everybody you know just keeps telling me how great it

183all is well didn't we uh discuss when we going through the bill list a bill that we just paid for security computer security SOS yeah it's the anti virus that's all it does the sosis antivirus the thing is is that we can only control what's in our house and these guys are taking our equipment and going outside of our house while they're in our house there's no way to stop them from doing that unless you remove total control of the computer from them I don't care like I said what software you put on what I mean you can put a key logger on and know everywhere they're going but I I just find it hard to believe that we don't have something that tells us I mean I know we were tracking people to California

184by IP address so for them tell me that we don't know where they've been and what they're doing I just I buy yeah they what they told me was they can go in and and and see the normal sites that they're actually like when they're sitting in our classroom if they're on our website they can see that but if they go to so that what I was told and I am not a technology person is that people have created these proxy sites specifically for that's correct for people to be able to hide the where they're going okay but back up okay right okay but they already went through the door they already logged onto your machine before they went to the next door so why can't they tell us who logged on that machine and

185then you know where they I mean there again it's so Elementary I I just I the the what they what I I asked that question and what I was told was the IP address that comes up when they do the search on the computer is is a a fake IP address that's correct that's correct but you need to back up they've already logged on okay that IP address it's after they've logged on and they've said I'm you know John Macintosh at Lakeland Elementary or whatever I've already logged on now I'm going to go to wherever and get my little proxy IP well I'm already on the machine mhm so we should know who was on the machine who deviated I mean they that's what I'm saying under that person's profile they suck everything there is

186or they were off of these Chromebooks that's why I kept you quit using them they track every single little thing for so I'm so not understanding why they can't tell us that I mean I scrolled for like 2 minutes in one meeting showing everybody everything they trapped so anyways even if we even if we went to the person found the person said hey you John Macintosh you're doing this that and the other thing they're not doing it behind our firewall they're not doing it we're not the only key we're giving them to do this thing is the is the lap is the Chromebook so it doesn't matter how many things we try to put in their way they're not using that they're going outside and and they're they're just taking themselves off of our Network

187and putting themselves on the their Hotpot exactly so the only way to get rid of it is take away the Chromebook that's the only way otherwise we might as well just move on and there's no sense in buying more software or trying to I mean I think that we should have some kind of actual thirdparty penetration testing I mean most of them will do it for free especially when there's kids involved so that we do know who is talking to our kids who is befriending our kids where are they going I mean I can send you some of that information yeah third party what you call penetration testing okay those are the you know but they're again until you take the Chromebook away it's just life it's the way it is it's just it's just

188hard because you know safety is our number one priority and I it's hard to to tell look parents in the eyes and say we're doing our the best we can to keep your child safe but they they are ccum yeah they're very Savvy um and parents like we've got one little boy right now who's not attending class cu the parents don't want him in a classroom where they're using a Chromebook so he's he's missing out on the dialogue in the yeah but how much but what is he really missing out on because you have to equate in the detriment of having access to the thing so really what does he messing out even like Roblox this real great gaming system for I mean there's a black there's a black web Market on roadblocks you can

189buy everything you can think of Under the Sun on a kid's game you're not supposed to be over 13 years old on there that they we're just too uneducated we should just take them away go back to computer lab and call it good it's it's really become very dangerous you know or you just have to I don't know do what I don't know how you do it cuz there's no way to stop them from taking the equipment and going around everything that we put in and that that was one thing I was trying to get across to somebody it's well they're not doing it through us right they are not doing it through us I mean I just tried to go to a couple of proxies here and I can't get to them it tells

190me you you're not allowed to go there you know blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right because we're doing what we're supposed to be doing in that instance Chromebook should have a setting on them where you can't get on any other network but ours is that right I mean all my computer experience is like I can't I can't get on any other network except this one oh you can yeah if you have a hot if you have a hot spot on your phone you can certainly get you just have to turn it on yeah you you can I mean and you could you could probably you know come up with some register entries or something and lock it down which pretty much their profiles are locked down anyways that's why you have to give

191your name when you log on so it knows what to serve you for security But there again here here again that's just another challenge I mean people make hundreds of millions of dollars doing nothing but hacking and that's all they do all day long is hack the craft on everything so the only way to not do it is to remove the Chromebook it's the only way otherwise we're just wasting time we're wasting money I know the parents are freaking out and irritated and all that but kids are going to be kids you know I mean adults make dumb decisions too adults make decisions every day we know we shouldn't be making so you know that that's just the nature of the Beast it's not a safe arena for kids why do you think all those

192people who created all this don't give it to their kids none of them till they're about 16 or 17 years old no access why can't we go back to having computer labs at least in elementary and at the middle school I get your little note here that says that it makes it challenging and very lengthy for um computer labs but we did it for many years we did um but that was before so at the elementary level um that was when the only testing that happened in the lab was ISAT testing and now the entire iri is on a computer and it's monthly and it's K3 and um and then there there's a new version of it coming where there are there is some um ability for kids to practice fluency for example um uh

193where they read into the microphone and immediately um they get the corrections um so we could do that but then it it just they're not getting their technology time because they're they're at least once a month they're taking their monthly assessment so um and then the other part of that is it literally at Betty kefir when I was there and we had 550 kids at that point in time but it took us six full weeks to do ISAT testing and with everybody having a Chromebook they can test an entire grade level all on the same day in the same subject area and so so we're able to teach longer and test less or take less time for testing but so could they just use a Chromebook cart so that everything's locked up literally locked up

194and nobody has access until it's time to have access and then it's immediately locked up cuz the other thing I heard is these they're taking these home so that's another thing there's no accountability they're sneaking them home yeah well whatever way if there's supposed to be 35 Chromebooks on my cart I should have enough sense to start checking kids' backpacks if there's not 34 Chrome 35 Chromebooks yes so you know that that's the only I mean and you're still not going to get away around it you're still you're just not you know you're going to you you can minimize it more by doing that which basically comes to a rolling computer lab you know and then when kids have to type an essay or whatever you can pull the Chromebook out they and type their

195essay and put it back in um they could take the they can take the internet access away from them they can do that so that they cannot access the internet they can only access our Network right you know so if they do that that doesn't that doesn't prevent the Hotpot though does it there a set yeah if you if you turn it off or it doesn't have well here's a no you can't I mean yes and no no because they would have to have that uh Wireless to get on our Network right if it was wired I'd say yeah but not wireless no because once they have wireless we can turn it off or take it away but they can always turn it back on and find the way around it you know um if

196they didn't have to have access to our Network you know because that's where everything would have to live then you know but there's you could restrict the amount of time allowed on the internet but there again doesn't take away the hot spot you know there's no way to get around them circumventing you know there's just uh well there's no really compelling reason for elementary students to be on the internet just for their uh for elementary a primary kids for their testing for their testing so if we limited access in the elementary to learning keyboarding and as necessary and the time that they use for testing then that that would take care so I just I don't know I'm going to ask because I don't know um our math Pro program mhm has a big component

197of that is the individualized pathway to fill in learning gaps and that's where we're actually seeing kids making a lot of gains and we've got kids who are making their stretch goals two years in a row and getting from below proficient to proficient um does that require an internet to be able to do that pathway or is that if once it's on the I would imagine they're they're connecting to their servers that's what I would just say that's exactly what trusty Jones is talking about like there was assessment tools it doesn't have to just be the iri but if you limit it to assessment tools you just toine what those are on given time and if they don't have the internet if they don't have Chromebook they can't have an right and the minimum amount

198of time that they have and making sure they're locked up in the car and accounted for you know um and I think that we should somebody should be responsible reading some reports of what these kids are doing with this technology we're giving them they the the computers have the ability to give you a print out of who logged on and where did they go even if they circumvent you um and for us not to have that I mean you know but yeah I mean you can minimize it by doing that you know I don't think the most of your offenders are at the elementary level though they're going to be that junior high but you I think you can extend that K K8 yep um and and basically say the same thing so in M

199they going to do their pathway um they would have access to it um they have their nwaa um assessment that we would that we do one of the I think one of the problems we have correct me if I'm wrong but uh there's a tendency on the part of teachers sometimes to use the Chromebook as a reward for students who finish work early or you know a way to occupy them while they're trying to work with somebody else that that sort of thing and that's where some of these problems are coming from I think yeah um well it's just the world we live in it's just you know kids have phones at a really young age they you know they're all exposed to all kinds of tech I mean it's just their world you know

200they go to the fast food in their order on a computer they go I mean their whole world is like that so we have to they really don't need that's why I say even like this magic AI software is so I mean 90% of our population already knows all that cuz it's their life they're not they're they don't know any world outside of that you know they know all about the computer they know how to type things out and how to get around and I mean you got kids as young as 6 and 8 years old that have their own YouTube channel breaking in millions of dollars you have you know websites where kids are already I mean the technology Gap is ginormous between education and the technology world I wish we had the way

201to get rid of well no I not but these kids that have this inkling to do these things guide them and know you know take that thing and make it better we don't have those bodies we don't have those well we have that in all all the aspects of the world too not just computers so at the middle school aside from State testing requirements what else are you stating that they need these Chromebooks for um in English they they have to write five uh write essays that's part of their um their grade but they don't need internet access to do that right well why can't they write it on a piece of paper I mean they don't know how to write what did you I know heaven forbid we go back how many statements we've

202had to read of their handwriting you imagine having to read we might get back into fine motor skill development who knows but couldn't that be done on with and paper no because part of um the uh part of the standards is that the kids understand and can write an MLA format and so they have to have access and ability to practice that with the the way they cite the so are they searching MLA format when they're doing these essays or do they have a piece of paper that shows them that well they've got the teacher has they have it on the board they the teacher is showing them that yes but they have to be able to type it in that format so um and I don't know I mean we went away from Microsoft

203Office because it's expensive to put a license on all of our computers and Google is free but and you can set Google up to work offline right remember so we could type in the Google and be offline I mean there's two other huge office uh Suites out there also which I'm sure the tech guys know about like Libre and um Brainard I can't think of the other one but they know they're and they they Microsoft mimics them you have Microsoft came those guys all existed before Mr Gates Mr Gates took their stuff and made money with it but um you can get all of those for free and it's everything it's it's uh like Excel and PowerPoint and word and it's everything and it's free it cost you absolutely nothing and I mean there's whole

204curriculums that are free in the open source source world but um that guy I was telling me about I'd have to look up his name is Ryan Montgomery um and he has a couple of companies um I don't remember what the name of the one is uh I'll find I'll find it and give it to you um what would you like from us about this I just wanted to have a discussion and get a sense of you know where the board is and what they would like to see I think it would be problematic at the middle school to say there's absolutely no internet um access because there are lessons and projects and things that we do with kids that require that um I I agree with Ramona that we we definitely need to do

205a better job of um accounting for the Chromebooks and having a system um in my mind um chromework shouldn't be going home at the middle school there's no reason for them to leave the classroom right so um so we they're they they need to dial in the system they're using to make sure that at the end of every class the teacher can account for the Chromebooks that if they were used they're all back where they belong and nobody's got one in their backpack um because that was a big part of the conversation that we had with the parents was they didn't realize that their son was checking the Chromebook out and bringing it home um and so um they didn't know the watch for it so that um if we were going to he wasn't

206showing it no and if so if we were going to allow kids to check out a Chromebook and I I can't think of a reason that we would do that at the middle school um but maybe there is um there in my mind then there needs to be an email home to the parents letting them know that or a text or that talking to them through the app on the phone that they have that um your child's bringing a Chromebook home to tonight to work on this um so that parents can I don't think there's any wrong yeah with them using a pencil of the paper either because you can't read their writing I don't even know if half of them know how to properly create the letter they're so removed from this right well

207there's new legislation um so we're required to teach cursive in third grade or at least starting at third grade or by third grade by third grade and then in fifth grade now they have to demonstrate proficiency with cursive and the state's going to come up with some way to measure that we haven't seen it yet um but that's coming so um our legislators are concerned that cursive writing is kind of becoming a lost art form be because of the computers um you know but none of us turn in a report that's had written they're all through the they're all done on online right but your brain's already developed right right and this the way this is developing being the brain is a whole another discussion unfortunately that starts I so the state's going backwards right

208but we don't need we should do that yeah we don't need to enforce it though we need to get away from taking the easy way out oh I got it from Teachers Pay Teachers oh I got I mean you might as well go to to Pinterest or to ig and download it we need to go back to the thing that creates healthy brains and healthy kids his his company is called pin tester that's um right ran mgy yeah and what what does what does that do cyber security services penetration testing oh that was the one you were talking about okay that's the penetration testing yeah but they do everything full risk assessment and all that but his number one Focus now I mean he's outside of being the world reown hacker he's a white hat

209hacker now but uh is you know this relationship between these weirdos and children because the school is a hot spot I mean you can they you hear all the time on the news you know the guy hooked up from Ohio hooked up with the little girl whose dad was a cop in California he came out they snuffed the whole family and she got in the car and left with him he was a grown man she was 13 he was 32 through the school internet the school network I'm sorry um so I mean it's and that's happening continuously all the time that's why parents are concerned yeah and by us saying you got to have it you got to have it you got to have it I mean we should be looking at the very minimal

210thing we have to meet and you know work their little brains because anyways I mean who knows how bad it really is we don't even know you know there's a um well we need have long discussion but anyways there's just so much stuff out there it's unreal okay thank you that discussion all right well I guess just for Giggles um because this is an action item I'd like to make a motion um to remove Chromebook from K through 8 with the exception uh of their usage for State mandated testing and testing skill development I'll second so we have a motion in a second all in favor say I I I any opposed three for two against motion carries so does that mean they can't use the computers to do their write their papers if it's

211testing skill development which from what you shared with me is when they do their Ela portion of the State Testing they have to type in their essays so if they need to type in their essays for testing development skill development that that's what I was trying to include okay you so they also need it for their Pathways for mathematics so right moving on to discussion items first item is the April 2nd board meeting which would be our next board meeting that um we are um apparently the district will be on spring break so the request is not to hold the meeting okay do we have any quals about that so what is that what is that just one meeting that month or move the meeting itself to when when is spring break over um spring

212break is over on I think we come back on April 7 Monday oh the following week so I think if we moved it bumped it a week we would run into the problem of no one having time [Applause] so um the I believe the request is just to uh vacate that meeting yeah I don't have any problem with that other than if something was to happen I me we need to have a meeting I don't want to have to wait all the way till the end of the month if there's an issue yeah right that would be my only thing but I'm fine with that it's the 31st four it's a week later than did add it on theard calendar he's not looking at the board calar so you know it's on the board calendar

213just for date purposes right let's move on to the transportation billing followup is I have just one question right off right off the bat I don't understand why on the new plan the nonre reimbursable would be charged at $1 per mild driven instead of the four instead of the four four instead of the because that we just it in the $1 was an easier way to type it out than the math that I had done to make it make sense to me um so in my mind we needed to pay for and not in just my mind when I in having discussions with all of the other districts and how they were billing out we were vastly different in overcharging our our schools for um uh athletic or non-reimbursable trips so I did put $1

214but it because I thought of six miles uh they're getting roughly six miles per gallon and then charging them back about $6 per Gall per $6 per so um I mean it would equ to a dollar a mile so basically if we were if we're supposed to charge them four we were charging them five is that what you're saying so that's why it's a dollar no so what we were doing is charging them what the state reimbursement rate was was $46 per mile driven which is a lot a lot it's because it's it's for the wear and tear on the bus it's for a whole that's just how the state has come up with that amount which is overcharging our schools for this trip so I wanted to get more of what it costs per

215gallon to get them there a little bit over obviously to try to make up for that wear and tear that does happen on those buses while you're driving these big bong trips but it's not nearly that $46 a mile that we were charging them so um for example um postf School District charges um $7 per gallon and I move that us to $6 per gallon because Post Falls was kind of on the higher end um calan is we're right between postf Falls and calan I think caline is more of like uh $4.50 per gallon is what they're charging their athletic department so per G per gallon or mile per gallon so they're dividing it they're they're taking their mileage dividing it by six and then charge or multiplying that by a gallon rate interesting way

216to do that yeah so we're going to charge our schools less if it's a non-reimbursable trip than if it's a reimbursable trip so yes because we're charging them what the cost what the actual cost is for that trip we're not going to get reimbursed for him by the state because it's sorry it's late and I'm trying to figure out not related to education yes academics so it's we're just not charging them what are what the reimbursable rate is because it's not a reimbursable trip we're we're getting reimbursed by the state at $46 a mile which is just an astronomical charge for our athletic departments to pay for when you're taking a trip down to Leon and it's costing them $1,500 to go down there and back but we're not getting reimbursed that money so so

217we're trying to charge them what it actually cost to take the trip down there so how long is it oh sorry when you say actual cost you're talking about fuel cost fuel cost and cost of the driver and Driver cost okay with a little bit of cushion for wear and tear on the bus and that's what that's calculated in based on that formula that you used average mileage is six miles Gall that's what the other schools were charging yes yes 6 miles per gallon that's what the mechanic said 6 to8 diesel that's between Diesel and gas they won't get the same R so no that's why it's 6 to 8 so we were overcharging our schools yes in my opinion yes but it's it's what it's it's what we inherited nobody really knew we just

218all spent the time but how long has that been going on that we've been overcharging well overcharging is an opinion because here's the other thing is that actually your tax dollars pay for all the other things and it's moving from the general fund to the general fund yeah so the idea they were overcharged is just because of the formula that was used so they're doing a non- tax funded thing with a tax funded thing and we're trying to get the cost in there so I guess my question would be why is it the $4 and six cents why why is that that's um what the state reimburses and that's covers everything but doesn't cover the driver and all that other stuff yes so it's a Min and in some cases not all of they're very

219very few of them but in some cases is actually is less expensive to charge that $46 per mile then to charge the that plus the driver so it's it's a few cases in there that have especially if you look at Lakeland middle school for some reason there there's almost lines out perfectly on how much they've save um because for some reason their calculation is very very close to the $46 to this what we're doing here but if you look at the high school level they're saving almost $10,000 over the when I say saving like you said it's it's um but almost $10,000 each over the course from August until now till the end of February but that comes out of the sports budget right comes out of the sports budget yep um but like I

220said it's moving from general fund to general fund to cover the costs so miles driven times a dollar plus the driver's hourly mhm times 27 are we just flat rating a driver's cost or is it depending on who the driver is I flat rated it yeah have it's an average yeah somewhere less somewhere more and I we compared this to I think seven different districts and everybody does something so vast like everybody is so different some don't charge at all for the Athletics and they put it directly that budget they put it directly into the transportation budget so the schools don't get build for it it just comes out of Transportation but it's taking Levy dollars and taking Levy dollars and putting into the transportation budget as opposed to the athletic budget yeah I don't

221have any questions well I'm glad to see that we're not um charging as much as we were for something that we want our Sports programs to do um it's disapp pointing that we've been that no one's ever looked into this to figure out are we doing it correctly yeah and I even called the state and asked if they had any recommendations and they said that they keep their hands out of it cuz I was hoping they could be like well here's a here's what we recommend schools do but they are they've said we don't want to give any recommendation yeah so the total adjustment figure that you have here for each School are the dollars that will be returned yeah so what I what I do is a journal entry to move the funds from

222their athletic budget into the transportation Revenue area and so I've done a couple of those throughout the year already I reversed those and then made a correction so that's their savings so it was Return to them and then I rebuild them accurately or using this new method which which will help them um they'll hopefully stay within their their budget for transportation for athletics this year um because we only um had 1.3 million in the levy for the last two years for athletics and so um you know we went to the80s this year and said this is what we have and we have to try to figure out where we can cut so we can stay within this budget and not go over and they were really stressed about what it was going to look like

223for spring sports with transportation and so this will help significantly so they felt much better okay so we were charging the schools what we were being reimbursed adding the reimbursement rate not what we were actually getting reimbursed for the reimbursement rate of 4.06 which is what we would receive correct not for would receive anything okay that's somebody somebody landed on that whatever uh as a way to back charge the schools for transportation as just using the that the state indicates that we would get for normal yellow bus transportation right just doesn't make sense no I understand that but to charg our buildings that way yeah but plus we're charging yeah that's a lot of dollars so I guess if we're if we're and maybe I'm not looking at this from the right angle which is

224very probable um how is it that if we're using our own money to pay for I mean other than I mean the athletic budgets at the schools I believe they have monies in there that are not taxpayer dollars that they're from concessions or they're from gate field yes so if if they have that money and they're paying for this and it's going over into the transportation world how are we still so out of balance in transportation that we needed to ask for another million dollars to cover them so that money um is not the money that they're paying us paying us for the transportation does not come from their buildings it does not come from their concessions it doesn't come from anything like that that is their levied amount budgeted that are moving from the

225general fund to another piece of the general fund so from a a general fund expense account to a general fund revenue account it is not from their buildings it's not their fundraised dollars it is levied dollars that 1.3 million okay and the the the 500,000 now that's on the the ballot for the levy is really related to the fact that when the state does reimburse us they only reimburse us up to 85% for our two and from school from based on last year's so it's 85% of what we spent last year so it doesn't account for any increased costs or any of that so there's always going to be a gap between what we get from the state and what we pay because they start off right off the bat 15% under the 100% And

226it's not this year since last year's reasoning for that I mean what is the rationale behind you rale that's the whole legislature well I don't know the legislature do a lot of things when you call the state the state says it's you know discretionary but when the legislators are voting on of there said no we didn't want it to be discretionary so I don't know who but some needs to write down the 15% I'm curious I have to look it's really closer to when yeah and our reimburse it's closer to an average of 65% when you look at it cuz it's anywhere from 50 to 85 is what they're reimbursing and I when I looked at it what the expense for what we were actually receiving is closer to a 65% reimbursement rate from what

227we spent to what we're actually getting from the state so that's where the that's where that Gap is coming yeah more buses and hire drivers and we'll just Farm them out to everybody we'll take over we'll take over their routes get our get our percentage up all right so on that note thank you J thank you um we don't have any possible action items uh we do have some dates to remember policy committee town hall meeting at Hower Lake um policy committee and spring break it's right there on the agenda um do we have any input for future agenda items my dad would like to figure out how we're going to move forward with that Veteran Memorial okay and how we're going to lease it or whatever okay so something to think about sorry can

228you note that down the better Memorial okay I would like to talk about um how we're going to how Staffing um specifically classified or certified Staffing is going to look regardless of whether we have the not lovey or not I think that we need to have a plan because I think there's a lot of teachers that are getting scared and they're potentially unnecessarily um leaving our district unfortunately so okay anything else yeah I was to say along that what Randy was saying I was just thinking the same thing not only that but we do to uh and I know we have to wait for some money but I think we need to start thinking about these budget you know and if we have to do two different budgets or I mean I don't know how

229how all that's going to look wait till after to Levy I guess or I'm not sure well it's my understanding we can't wait till after the ly because of the time frame so we have to have the budget prepared before the levy so we have to have two budgets prepared which would be one with and one right y great so on that note we'll go ahead and end the regular session um I would like motion to enter into executive session pursuant to Idaho code 74261 a motion a second we need a roll call vote trusty Jones trusty Banes chair Thompson trusty quby Vice chair yes that we take a 5 minute recess to the back coming out of executive session there are no post executive action items at this time and we'll go ahead and

230injn the meeting it's 10:59 microphone