001okay it's 6:00 we're going to call the meeting to order um welcome everyone please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all be seated I do need a motion to approve tonight's agenda so move second there have a motion in a second all in favor say I I I any opposed hearing none the motion carries um we just like to congratulate the Timberlake high school girls basketball team for placing third at State um the Timberlake high school wrestling for going to State um Chad Parsons for being the IT director of the year in Idaho and then have some additional aades um I didn't I was using
002that as a note space and I didn't communicate that to our clerk so I I wasn't done yet don't you put that on there but um so uh Lakeland High School wrestling brought home fourth place uh at the state with two state champions and then uh Ln High School cheer and dance qualified for state and so this is their third state Trophy this year so they're pretty excited at Lakeland High School so both of our high schools representing us well nice we will move on to the consent agenda we have the minutes of the previous meeting minutes of subcommittee meetings to be accepted are there any comments on the minutes of the previous meeting okay um I do have a comment on the 227 policy committee meeting minutes um Lisa Arnold was not in attendance
003and Sheila po left right after the meeting started so please remove those two names okay um on that um is there any conversation we need to have on any of those any no okay um I'll take a entertain a motion on the consent agenda move to approve as presented with the noted changes second we have a motion in a second all in favor say I I I I any opposed hearing none the motion carries moving into old business we have the superintendent followup um I'm just curious why you think there was confusion on the 4 day school week just uh there was it seemed like there was a little bit of confusion as to why I was bringing it so I just kind of wanted to go back to the to the conversations that we
004had um and then I wanted to make I don't know if you guys have gotten emails from from parents about the survey but I I wanted you to know that I was and how I was responding to those I know I've gotten a few um okay so and then uh I also did hear back from our attorney about the um the bus for stem Charter but it her email um response came after our clerk had to post so I will um bring that and the mou back uh at the March 19th board meeting for the board to take final action as far as determining whether want to go move forward with it well I also in his statement said he'd be willing to look at it did you happen to let him look at it
005did he get feedback on it I haven't gotten it back from him yet so I will do that I'll I'll add both of those pieces once I have them okay does anybody have any other conversation or questions or comments for the superintendent no I don't remember my January 15th comment I mean I guess I could have said that but I don't remember that I have to go back and listen I know I did say the first one uh I did bring that up about the 4 day week but I don't remember maybe I was asking for clarification because I didn't see the 4-day week as part of the reduction of the levy other than his cost savings measure but maybe I was asking for clarification on it that's why I was wondering why it wasn't
006in the recommendation yeah you had just indicated that when the board did the work at the December 30th that that was part of what you guys had in the overall 9.5 and you were just wondering why it wasn't on the recommendation for the the running of the levy at a lesser am oh the little check boxes that they were doing on the spreadsheet or whatever it was and and at that meeting I had indicated to you that I was going to bring it but I I was trying to separate right okay right because it was part of the check box they using gotta any further discussion I have none okay moving on to new business we have board policies um policy 3410 7400 and 9100 um 3370 was brought forward um one to clean up
007the language and then we because the um school districts the high schools high school I should say Lakeland breathes Timberlake doesn't have a breathalyzer yet um but we don't have anything they do oh you do now okay you always have oh you always have you just have't always not at the spirit game if you remember we didn't do it at the Spirit but we do at dances okay at dances thank you for reminding me um so we don't have anything in policies that state that we breathalyze students so were we contacting parents did parents know we were doing that yes yes it's my understanding that at the start of the school year that we had a signed release for this to be breath alizing minors from all the parents I don't know of any uh
008waiver or form that we've signed before sorry go ahead the conversation that was was just concerning to me was that we were doing this and we did not have any policy that identified it um or uh offered us any form of protection in the fact that we're doing this without proper notification um it was my understanding that somehow parents are made aware of the fact that this is done and I believe it's in the student handbook um but I'm not positive on that where is it I don't recall you guys want to talk about how you communicate that to parents is that an option option again Josh a at Timber Lake High School again it's in the student handbook okay uh that during registration parents acknowledge that they've read through the student handbook and are
009okay with everything so it's in the student handbook I I believe so like dances we're talking about breathalyzers correct correct the fact that we do that I I believe so okay again not comfortable standing up and and speaking that point but I believe that's the case Okay should probably add the cross toown rivalry or whatever in there yeah Timber Lake High School doesn't because their Spirit day starts at 10:00 a.m. where lakel is night so they haven't done the breathalizer in the morning with with kids but um them does for the battle for the paddle well and in adding language for the breathalyzer onto this policy we've also added language onto the school sponsored activities because it wasn't identified there either um the biggest um caveat according to Legal because um legal was sought on
010the fact that we were doing this um and she stated that there's um case law on both sides of the fence that argue for it and that argue against it however when the school is doing something that's on its own property the school retains the right to have requirements for entrance such as breathalizer Etc and that we're not infringing as long as it's done to everyone and not just picking and choosing Who and the event is optional right not a requirement for them to attend it's prom and for Lakeland High School it's prom and it's um battle for the battles and then home and then and home the list is growing winter fall like it really is okay never never been and it's not a breathalyzer where they have to put anything in their mouths
011it's it's it's close enough they just kind of blow into it and it will um capture whether there's alcohol in the breath or not okay and do we do the same for adults at the dances and the games where we're doing this or is it just kids that are having to do it just kids got the dance yes Y what what we have found is that when with the breathalyzer it is a deterrent for kids to drink prior to going to these events and so that's that's the intention is just for them to come and have time and be safe what were you going to say oh I was just curious on the the students constitutional rights as applicable under the specific circumstances will be protected why do we have to have that as applicable
012under the circumstance shouldn't it just be that their constitutional rights will be protected period without having that quantifier in the middle of that sentence yeah I agree change just to provide Clarity I have not been able under dances and under this exact policy there is no language around breathalizer the hand I didn't think it was there but I wanted to double check thank you okay so we need to make that correction um taking out the as applicable under the in between the commons just get that away and remove the commment do you think we can draft something that goes specific so that everybody knows I mean I know we hav't in the policy but we could create a form in the registration portal that parents have to sign CU you want to make sure the
013parents are aware this is occurring yep we did say that this particular policy we talked about this would be one of the policies that you have to check off and read um through the registration to ensure like so Chad already knows it's coming and um as soon as it gets approved he's going to add it to the registration packet so it's not a passive you actually have to like similar to the technology you have to you have to read it and sign it y okay so I mean if you guys want something different but we did talk about that in policy that would make this one of those that you have to all parents have to actively um sign off yay or nay I guess is it both 3370 and 3410 or is 3410 already
014part of it we talked about just 3370 but we could add 3370 and 3410 when we talked about this originally we weren't 3410 wasn't on the table initially um because we were remember we were trying to figure out where to place it in the policy and not feeling like it fit really well and then the school sponsored fit better so I mean I can have both of them be part of the registration they do go hand in hand and you mean we could actually have both of them on the same and then you're just I think it would be beneficial I mean the more informed parents are the better I think thoughts on that trusty person I'm not in favor of either one of them I think the search and seizure is extremely invasive and
015way over the top I mean to be able to have a dog alert number one we're dealing with minors and nowhere in here are we saying when we're contacting the parent or whoever's in charge of them and then we're going through this whole rigar another thing is we are saying we have the right to uh search anything at any time and don't have to have their consent no else in the real world could that happen why are we doing it to Children you the whole thing is just ridiculous you know that I mean are we running a prison or are we running an education facility what are we running here because this sounds like something that I'd have to sign off on at the sheriff station you know where anytime these kids you know you
016say oh yeah you you have your right well what if they deny something then they're automatically boot it out it's almost like they have to follow suit you don't really have a right because if you do exercise your right you're penalized for it I just I don't like it at all it's ridiculous I mean they were're trying to run an education system here any other conversation on you would say with probable cause or don't maybe the the the legal term for schools is reasonable suspicion and law enforcement the is probable cause right so um and there's there is a lot of case law um around this and the intention is to um to give the school tools to be able to deal with um drugs if they're on property or or weapons and the reality
017is the sro's are the ones um the one that gentleman that came to the policy committee meeting way back when when we first started this um he was struggling with the fact that when he's an SRO while he's still a sheriff he's not wearing the sheriff sh hat he's wearing the SRO hat but when he finds something that may Merit needing then he has to go from Reasonable Suspicion to probable cause so he's got boundaries he has to live with him because of the job that he actually holds yeah so and badly assistant superintendent when we initially talked about this a lot of the conversation was around this was an elective extracurricular it's after school hours the school sponsored event it's supposed to be fun so it's not something that kids have to participate in
018to my knowledge with both high schools we've never had any parents complain we're pretty transparent about that process but the idea is it's really just promoting our drug free safe schools and so really trying to ensure that if it like we have a like when you know a l that put on their deal and Sandpoint was coming that all of the kids that parents are expecting that their kids are in the gym for 3 hours that we're doing everything we can to make sure everybody is safe so they're you know we there aren't things coming in and they're just trying to be above and you know make sure that kids are safe so that was really the conversation we haven't had any parents complain about it and it is just when you come in here
019you know the kids know coming in that there's going to they're going to be breathalizer in school hours it really is extracurricular and after hours but the goal was really to ensure safety for everybody involved well the the the policy is all-encompassing it's not just that because the whole May inspect in search as well as personal effects you know without notice or consent of the student blah blah blah I mean that's that's the search and seizure one but the breathalyzer one specific to 3410 was really just about school sponsored event and it was brought through the lens of just ensuring that while kids after hours while parents are expecting their kids to be safe they're at a school function how do the adults ensure that that safety is intact and so this is a this
020is just in this stain age is what is why it was it's even been a topic of discussion would you guys add anything to that so when you the parents sign off on it I mean right they don't sign off but we're going no we're going to create a form that says they will sign right and it again it is extracurricular so if kids don't want to participate but um you know and now we'll have parent permission and again the idea the goal was all about safety it wasn't about being intrusive through 3410 so New Jersey New Jersey versus T is the Supreme Court um case law that all of all of well there's a lot of law but that doesn't mean it's morally right and it doesn't mean that you have to do every
021single thing that the law says to do my you know my only thing was that I I mean if they've been doing it they've been doing it I mean you're going to continue to do it I was just objecting to the whole thing I I'm still always taking a back how nobody sees issue with it you know every I mean it's so far from one world to the other and if we really have this much alcohol drugs delinquency in the district then we need to be doing something else if we really have to have this heavy of a hand because our community kids is so out of control there's something else going on I don't think we have a lot of kids who are violating um the law it just um allows us when we
022do have a kiddo who who brings um alcohol in their vehicle and then they're Distributing it in the parking lot it g it does give us an ability to well that's that's clearly illegal I mean you wouldn't even need this for that that's clearly illegal they're not old enough to drink everything we're talking about is is for this is is about being illegal it's the drugs it's the alcohol and it's weapons um we're not we don't we're not don't like the non-consent thing and I don't like the idea that no parent at any time in these policies is does it say we're going to contact the parent Here There and especially with the two laws that just recently passed I think a parent needs to be contacted before their student is you know taken through
023whatever they deem necessary I agree with that just the parents seem to be aware um you know if there's issue they need to be like the other policies we wrote they need to be notified say Hey you know blah blah blah whatever happened and and they they are notified if it if the language is not as in the policy we can that can be fixed we can add that and then we're going to add it to the portal for them to sign so that they are crystal clear but um they are absolutely notified so can we table this till next meeting just to get that verbage into this policy yeah absolutely I would move to table this one to um just to add that verbage that parent of of exactly when parents are notified um
024are you just ding 3370 yes okay I'll second that we have a motion in a second all in favor say I I I I any opposed hearing none the motion carries who's on the beach he do we have any other conversation that needs to be had on 3410 um I just was curious why it says all student organizations must be approved by the administration when we actually have policy on student clubs that so wouldn't it be by the board instead of by the administration yes yeah well yes I believe the way the process is is it needs to be brought to the administrator and the administrator needs to say yes it can keep moving forward down the road this implies that it stops at the administrator right so we can table that and put corrected
025language in there usually the um the number four the added School privilege uh item there on uh this that we 3410 I noticed to the insertion of it is the intention of the Board of Trustees blah blah blah we usually we all that fluffy stuff's been taken out this is the only one I noticed it was purposely put in was there a reason for that or what was added was the entire paragraph of school of privilege so um the words can be modified that yeah where the intention of I was just curious what the conversation was and why the ation was how how should we word the paragraph okay so um but we can table this one as well for more clarification I have an additional question on 3410 yeah go ahead Bob uh number
026three extra activities where it says the board direct Administration to open all sports to all students enrolled in the district with an equal opportunity for participation does a broad interpretation of that allow for boys to participate in volleyball or girls to participate in football well if we have a girls football team and a boys volleyball team they can are you specifically asking if we're going to let boys play on girls Sports and girls play on boys sports [Music] it reads it it looks like a tra for me okay so we can clean up that language so it's specific yeah needs to be gender specific okay although you would know better than I Dave about IHS s thank you um don't they have some requirements in there do you recall for girls playing as boys for
027girls being on boys team and boys being on girls teams because I think there was at one point in time you think we've had girls play on football teams in the state before I mean before we had we had girls in our Varsity line op know I'm we I've never seen it the other way never seen it the other way what my question is though isn't there specific language in the ihsaa handbook about that I don't recall okay I think we'll need to get clarification on that but we can um now that they sanctioned I know girls wrestling it's different than it was so right but there's never I've never seen a girl in high school football so and did did we not just have a do we have aild pass an Idaho that says
028boys can't play girl well it's federal law too yeah both so okay I I I will um I'll bring the ihsa guidelines okay so we'll get that in line have we you also have a recent Federal uh mandate from the president about that yes sir so I'll move to table 3410 until we get um those specific items reworded second we have a motion in a second all in favor say I I I any opposed hearing none the motion carries moving on to 7400 um and 9100 7,400 got brought back because 9100 was brought forward and there was the language of uh the personal property value of $25,000 so we did add into the policy um the exception language that states that in the event a purchase must be made prior to board approval the superintendent
029sh the authority to make acquisition purchases without advanced approval when the purchase exceeds $25,000 and is necessary to protect the interests of the district or the health and safety of staff and students I I think that's kind of super Broad in the sense that um you know I didn't put in their emergency language which I think should be the caveat that it's not just um you know the purchase of a van could have been considered um for the district's benefit that was needed at that time because of the sale I mean I just that's not an emergency that should have still come before for the board is where I was thinking about you know that's pretty broad spectrum but I don't know what everyone else's opinion is on that I agree and the uh there
030was a couple other um references that should have been on there I know there was 67 uh 2805 I think but 67 2803 and a couple of the others um could have been referenced on there also and they weren't um because they specifically say you know blah blah blah blah blah after they give the limits and all that and then it says um you know that the board is basically that information comes to the board right and that was I didn't see that in these but I didn't know if that was discussion you guys had I wasn't at those meetings so um I do think it needs to be updated with that language also okay um but I code 672801 net sequence is listed so it's encompassing the yeah it's encompassing the ti entire CH
031oh there it is okay so which one oh so that's on 9100 so maybe it's the other 74 7400 yeah it's not referenced on there uh 2805 on is but maybe we get back up and make it equal match um I also don't agree with the language um if the purchasing thresholds identified below or no longer aligned with Idaho code the district will adhere to the updated threshold in Idaho code until policy is revised I think that we should adhere to the policy and if the policy then is um if we need to get it straighted out as soon as we can so to speak I think the policy needs to govern um well and typically what happens is is that threshold gets raised in Idaho code but we can still have we can have
032tighter yes we can so I agree so to leave it as is until um until we have an opportunity to revise our policy I think I don't think that that I agree that okay in short I agree okay um and then my other concern was um the statute what was stated um the micro purchases that was increased and then the thresholds from 10,000 to 75,000 was increased Etc and I was it was stated that that's following statute I can't find any statute anywhere that identifies anywhere from 10,000 to 75,000 however the statute does spe specify 75,000 to 150 um and so I just want to make sure that the board is in agreement under the bids and contracts with the language that's set there because um we did not go back over 7,400 so I
033was a little um surprised with some of the adjustments on the figures so I just need to make sure the Bo's in alignment with it I don't I think the other was fine the way it was I mean we seem to have been operating with that just fine um um well the statute did raise the threshold like you stated from to 75 to 150 our policy was 50 to 100 um just trying to keep a little closer control on it so I don't know if we want to go back to that I don't know if we're comfortable expanding it and aligning with the statute 100% let's go 50 to 150 well the 75 to 150 has to do with the bidding requirements so are we wanting bids on 50,000 doesn't matter to me okay okay
034still have to approve the bid right well if it's under 75,000 we don't have to have a bid yeah but if we're going to spend more than 25,000 and it's the board has to approve it so yeah I think baby just taking time to make sure that they more mesh with each other okay and the statute is referred to on both of them being that they're both related to each other um yeah that's saying the the prior amounts I mean other than it going up in statute the micro purchases um the 10,00 from 3,000 raised to 10,000 so are we wanting to keep that and then the 10,000 to 75,000 that's on page one of 7400 the bids and contracts so basically anything under 50,000 if if we make them align anything under 50,000 the
035board wouldn't know or 25,000 whatever that number was so I guess that's a question is when does the board want to know before the money is spent as opposed to just a notification afterwards I think that remaining at 25,000 is appropriate okay we just have to make sure that they align that way okay yeah that would be my suggestion I I agree with Randy okay so I'll move to table 7400 and 9100 until we make sure that we have numbers that that J and those changes as discussed second we have a motion in a second all in favor say I hi hi any opposed hearing none the motion carries moving on to the LHS Key Club travel Mo to approve second we have a motion in a second do we need to have any conversation
036no sounds like a fun time all right so we have a motion in a second all in favor say I any post bearing them the motion carries moving on to the wireless access points this was brought to the last meeting but we weren't given all of the bids um and so we've been provided with all of the bids who was on the committee that uh made the selection I knew you were I was reading through Jessica's notes and I was the wondering the very same thing she didn't provide that to me and so I don't know who was on that Comm and then my question would be once we chose one what is the um we choose one of these guys is there any uh backlash you know from that like when we changed phone
037systems it wasn't you know compatible with this by blah blah like what would what will be the domino effect um ednetics is actually the that we're using for all of those things so it all talks to each other right so um because CFO Grantham couldn't be here tonight um she did give me some notes um she said the committee write the atics proposal the highest and we'd like to award the contract to them the recommended contract amount is comprised of line two which is Wi-Fi 6E high performance for $1,800 $1,820 77 lines four line four the 5year licensing for 29592 plus lines 5 and six services for 26116 this totals the requested amount of $167,500 of the cost which leaves an estimated 67,000 to be covered by fund 245 which is the technology State Technology
038fund and that was the recommendation just to stay with e etics i I would have to agree with that because my fear is that if we switch there's well it's what just a few thousand dollar difference what happens afterwards when things aren't compatible might cost a whole lot of money right Y and then and she did say that um if it all possible um it's important to approve it tonight so that we can close out the application for you great so we're waiting on this information that would be my recommendation just to accept their recommendation of the ednetics for $167,500 I guess um where my question is is when I looked at the items that are identified it looks like it's we're comparing Apples to Apples it's a same thing what I noticed about serum
039is they're willing to give us a 15% discount so if we have a 65% off of the one and we're getting a 15% discount on top of I mean on the overall whole package I don't know I think it's not I I mean I agree I know what you're I get what you're saying there about the dollars but I think the domino effect we it's too much of an unknown I know but we've had problems with athetics in the past of getting equipment and I mean there's always lag times Etc and I don't know when I read in the one um quote for um serum seemed like their it appears based on their language that they're more um service oriented not saying it it is yeah that could be true but my fear is okay
040right now we have something that works and unless we're willing to add another 30% on top cuz that's probably minimum what you know little thing here little thing there that would be uh and it's really not that much of a difference okay and I know we have had things with them but I don't know it was just the door um cards was that was uh just took a long time for them to catch up after Co because all those parts came from other places so we're not having those same issues at this point have we made a large purchase from them since the co purchase not a large purchase okay so you can't really say other than we haven't purchased large from them right but when we are purchasing we're not yeah but yeah we
041have okay so does anybody want to bring forth a motion I oh you did yeah I said I okay you yeah got it yeah right so we have a motion on the table I'll second it so we have a motion in a second all in favor say I I I I I have one comment before we leave this okay go ahead uh it's perfectly legitimate to accept uh a bid that's not the lest responsive B but I do believe that it's important that you provide adequate justification for that uh that could have been done if uh you know we had more information from this committee whoever that committee is and in the future uh if this comes up I would recommend that they be more careful in spilling out the discrepancy uh of the uh
042of the better that's not proved okay I am making a note thank you you're welcome he opposed hearing then the motion carries all right that moves us into discussion items um first item under discussion is curriculum I asked for this to be brought uh up for discussion because I had um one of my neighbors come to me with books that her grandchildren had received um from school and her frustration in the fact that we spend money for curriculum and the book is Barely Used and we send this home to parents and the math book you know is not not used and her frustration in talking with me was just that we need money we need money for curriculum but then we buy curriculum and then we're not using it um and you know how do
043you answer that it's like yeah I hear what you're saying so I guess um it's kind of twofold why are we sending unused materials Home With Children um especially when it's almost an entire workbook that we're telling parents so we're teaching kiddo here's you know I just I don't understand that and it's very challenging when it's a legitimate complaint I mean my tax dollars are going to buy curriculum that we're not even using so it was very disheartening and challenging I mean because we want to give teachers autonomy to teach in their classroom and then we're constantly buying online um supplemental stuff and they're not using the curriculum anybody so they are using the curriculum but remember that that book is also digital and um and often times there are a lot of a lot
044of practice opportunities in the that's that's the like the workbook um and so there are units where the kids don't need as much practice opportunity because they're demonstrating to the teacher that we we have this so we're moving on um our teachers also use use whiteboards in their classrooms for kids to show their work on so that they can hold it up and the teacher can see it and get feedback uh as they're learning um and then uh it's it's a a lot of it is about engagement so we're not worksheet driven where handson Cooperative learning um active cognitive engagement with discourse between the kids where they're talking about their thinking and they're sharing how they think about math and I understand all that and I I respect that I do but if parents don't
045know that because we're sending home unused or Barely Used workbooks what is a parent to think I mean there's no um disclaimer going home saying you know I taught your kid but here's the book that we just you know we we used our whiteboards for I mean parents aren't being told that and we are trying to be transparent with them and now we're sending home workbooks that aren't used and she I mean her point was valid why are my tax dollars going to pay for curriculum that's coming home that's not being worked on but I mean I understand what you're saying and I'm not my assumption isn't well nobody's teaching these kids cuz I know they are are but I don't think that it's very prudent to send empty workbooks home to parents showing them
046look we didn't use the workbook does that make sense no I hear what you're saying okay um uh you know when we went through the process um we talked a lot about the the desire to put the book in in kids hands um one of this has always been kind of an issue even when I was in the classroom and we had our our consumable workbooks uh for math I didn't use I I didn't use all of the pages in there and and I but I didn't send a whole book home I would out the pages we we didn't use for that and send it home and just say to the parents if you if your if your child wants to play school at home or wants to do some additional practice they've mastered this
047but it's good sometimes to have these things in the summertime for them to kind of practice with um all of those all of those sheets are on the on the digital um interface and so teachers could can also print them and so um one of the so when we bought them we paid up front and so there is no additional dollars for t for taxpayers but we're we are getting these we get the books when each year so Lynn actually has been talking to both amplify and I ready and talking about which um which books um we need and because uh some grade levels have more than one so it's just a lot of worksheets and we don't we typically don't do a a lot of worksheets so we are actually asking them not to
048send for next year we're only asking for what we actually found useful and helpful for the kids well if we're switching because I do think it is important to put pen to paper not 247 I mean these are some little people and not all kids can learn that way and I respect that but F motor skill development doesn't no they're definitely putting pen to paper but they just don't need 20 pages of the same thing to to do so my question was if we just use the digital format and we don't get the workbook but we're printing them off the worksheets off I mean we still have the cost there has anyone ever looked at that yeah um as far as like uh cost differential um I think it cost 33 cents or .03 cents
049it's a very tiny amount of money for us to print on our cop for every single teacher in every grade band with all of the students right okay but each page I'm just saying each page yeah and we haven't actually calculated that out and and uh we can certainly do that because what what we don't want to do is um we want to be very frugal this is what came with the program and we are communicating with the program we don't need this workbook we also have um in um amplify there are some stories as we've through them that we are not comfortable right having our kids use because there as we've read through them we are realizing there's some not nice stuff not yeah and so so we're choose so we're also being very
050uh careful and cognizant about what we are using with kids um recogniz well I would really pray that if we're choosing not to do the we're not sending yeah we're not sending it home right that's exactly right do you know uh ktech uses old books and have them rebound old material a lot cheaper and they have the highest grades in the state to they use math science you're talking about stem not or St yeah sorry stem something to look at I I would tell you I don't know that I mean we've had we that's what we had before was older textbooks we went years without buying new ones um and and as long as things haven't significantly changed you know um history books at some point have to change because we have to teach current
051history like our history but or you add a little supplement to it so um but I the reason that that's going home is because the um the kids were demonstrating understanding and they didn't need all of the additional practice pages that went along with it I was going to say there's actually if you look at the book there actually quite a few pages gone in fact there's 60 pages in between one area so I think sometimes I mean I understand the whole we should be using what we have I agree and I do think we spend too much on teacher pay teachers and all this we should utilize what we have however at the same time I think a lot of people don't understand that the entire time their students here like they're not getting
0526 hours of instruction right right like every by the time you get the kids in from Recess everybody gets calmed down and they sit at their seat and I mean you're you're trying to just whip through the day just to get you know 30 minutes into something right before it's time to move on so I think sometimes they they don't understand it's it's been my experience in public education they never finish Page by Page by Page by Page by Page they trying to hit the concept get the concept move on to the you know so I understand the Optics of it and I do agree partially but at the same time there's a lot of pages used out of this math book yeah there just a lot of pages in the math book yeah there's
053well there's uh work pages themselves there's and 62 um so that's double school year plus all the little repeat and review and and all of that um yeah Optics probably aren't good but there there is quite a bit used out of the out of the book so we doing then we just send the book home with the student when we're done with the when they're done with the subject that's what we that's what we have um done in the past and when I know when I taught I always sent a note home to my parents and let them know that we used all of the practice Pages out of this book that we needed for the kids to really solidify their learning however when you're home over the summer it's sometimes good to pull out
054those pages and just do a little review so I'm sending this home well this was from the first trimester so we've got two more trimesters of right so to Ramona's point we have 172 days in our school calendar and 360 or how many 362 in one book so there's no way you can do all of the pages I understand but again with the Optics with the desire to advocate for the levy and then I'm having to negot well I don't know why we s almost unused book but so I just wanted to bring that out so that maybe we could look at ways to um be more effective L Dr pasley's already started that process awesome all right policy 3050 is attendance that was brought to the policy committee um the struggle is the attendance
055policy see um there are those that wonder why we even have to have an attendance policy um because it's very hard to put uh teeth into the attendance policy on top of the fact the way it's worded um our principal assistants especially at the high school level spend the majority of the Year chasing kids down making sure that they're getting all their forms in so that they can get their credits because of the way everything's written um there is language in here that doesn't fall in line with statute anymore such as the 90% of time um students must be in attendance 90% of the time when classes in session we cannot find that anywhere in statute where previously it was apparently in statute it is no longer there so I'm bringing it before the board
056before the policy committee does whatever it wants to do with this um to find out the board's perspective about our attendance policy do we need to have it it does Define it it's the uh foreground for treny um we need to put better if we're keeping with the attendance policy we need to put better parameters in there for elementary and we need to have some it needs to have some Grace because building principles know if their students I mean if they've got a student that's holding an A but miss 50% because they're a self-directed learner but they're not in that program you know why are why are we penalizing them why are we penalizing our staff saying go you know go on this mass of hunt to make sure these kids get these credits and
057they jump through the hoops and they fill out the forms um so I personally wanted guidance from the board for the committee um with respect because things that were discussed is the fact that if we don't have an attendance policy then how much work are we putting on the teachers and in addition to because they're having to make sure those kids are you know caught up Etc um I was kind of shocked when I learned how much uh money the district loses when children are not in their seats um CFO Grandam calculated it out that this I believe it was last year we lost $2.1 million 2.7 million for students that were not on campus learning because they were out ill or on average $15,000 per day if you take our 92.4% attendance last year
058and just average it out the so it's the same every day was 15,000 and that's significant so attendance is significant I have a I have a question about that though isn't our funding Ada and isn't that only one time a year it um we're we we get part of our money based on the first but we only given them numbers one time a year to calculate that no the first 10 weeks and then after that it's our best 28 weeks and they look at the entire school year so our funding is based on attendance in those two ways okay and so that's how we get the total and then if you look at what we could have gotten with based on 4600 kids in school and everybody attending every single day it was $2.7 million
059less that we got as a result of the attendance did we have so I know we had enrolled that many but did we actually have that many showing up at some point like every student that was enrolled actually showed up at one day or the other y yeah I got an email from somebody and it says uh my students I 114 students accumulated 140 absences in the first two weeks of the semester what say in the first two weeks of the semester alone my 114 students accumulated 140 absences thought you said from a parent that's from a staff member equating to 12 2 a% of my students being absent each day so I thought we had when they went over nine days I thought they had to petition the board they do and that's what
060uh board chair Thompson's talking about so what's happening is we have a lot of kids who are participating in a lot of outside activities that take them out of school so we have we have gymnasts who have to travel for matches and we have um kids who are playing on a teams and so um those take them out out of school and it's hard to for our assistant principls to look at some of our kids who are getting straight A or have all A's and B's and they've missed 10 11 12 days and now they have to petition to keep their A's and their bees that's a really hard conversation and there they that's a struggle and and then if we know that they're not actually skipping but what they're doing is worthwhile but it
061keeps happening so so they have to keep petitioning at some point the petition doesn't mean anything anymore so that's the other part of it um often times when you have kids who are missing a lot of school their grades reflect that however Dustin at Lakeland High School brought us some data to show that um you have to miss a lot of school before you start to see a significant decline in the greates and so that was it was just the question we know attend is important because it's more than just making up the homework it's participating in the conversations and other kids getting to benefit from how you think about things and participating in those conversations um but the the the teeth is hard we um you know when you're at the elementary level it's
062not the kids it's the parents and so um and it's a lot um there's a lot more put on the elementary teachers to make up that learning because if they've missed out on a week of phonics instruction as a first grader that's a hole in their ability to learn to read that somebody's got to go and fill in so that means teachers are ping kids during recess time and so we just had a lot of conversations about some of the differences of the different um grade bands and what's the best way to do it and we do have the self-directed learner and if we just start encouraging parents and kids to go that route then they count as in as in in attendance every day regardless of whether they're there or not so the petition
063and all of that goes away and as long as their grades are at the level that our policy says they have to be and they're proficient or um Advanced on their state assessments um they get to continue uh as a self-directed learner which helps us with our funding um helps with the families who where kids are actually doing the work but they're also putting a lot of work into other outside um activities so we just we struggled and and so somebody who was attending policy Committee just asked if we could bring it to the board and find out how how important does the board think the attendance policy is the way that it's written now and and before we start laboring over it we struggl so that's why it's here so it sounds more like
064it's grade driven right not attendance because like you're saying some students seem to be every day you know until they get it and then there's others that just do fine yeah they don't have to yep so maybe we need to look at that I mean elementary I think that's probably a little bit harder because they really need to be there especially like you're saying those primary you know first through Third Kind of grades um so maybe that would be the way to do it is for the older grades you know do it more of a maintaining a certain I they have to have the seat hours education in educating the parents to know about the directed learner um so maybe they maybe they're just unaware they don't really understand PR just this year started using
065it so we don't have very many people inrolled yet so yeah we could do a better job of absolutely getting that word out yeah and then maybe for the older grades would just look do it by a grade more you have to maintain and you have to have maybe we just look more at like the requirements you have to have these many hours you have to maintain this GPA or letter whatever you wanted to say well the reality that was also brought out is that um for secondary students to become a a self-directed learner the bar set pretty high I mean you have to have a GPA of 3.3 um and at least a b grade in each subject area um or minimum Cula is that statute or is that our policy that is our
066policy oh we got to set the criteria yeah so we may need to reconsider that look back at that too in combination with yeah correct yeah there were some things in statute that you had to have things in conjunction so you in addition to whatever the GPA and the board sets they have to be proficient or Advanced on the last state test that they took so for high school that's 8th grade until you get to your junior year um because we don't do isets in ninth and 10th grade so um that part is in statute um at fifth grade you have to have Mastery of your basic math effect multiplication division addition subtraction um and I think we added a couple of things layers to that one too um I think having an attendance policy
067is important so I mean if that's if that's the question posed for this evening and I like Ramona's um thought that you know adding some other layers or some other would the board be opposed to Breaking the attendance policy in half so that there is specific guidelines for elementary and spe specific guidelines for secondary because um currently there was just here's Elementary but you know it couldn't even align because it was nine days and they're on trimesters not semesters and so I was like we have to very be very specific but I'm actually wondering if the detail that needs to go into the policy so that it doesn't come along and convoluted if there's an elementary policy and then there's a secondary policy because secondary has more um consequence there is more consequence because kids
068won't graduate and we I I don't like the fact that we have employees that could be utilizing their time better but they're running around helping these kids make sure they get the credits to graduate because we've got nine days and if they don't have nine days I mean if they've missed uh nine days then or 10 days then you know you know we've got petitions and forms and all this other sort of stuff and if you have to do it once that's kind of like a scary thing but by the time you're doing your 12th one you're kind of like eh whatever so there's no importance to it anymore it's just hoop jumping and I just can't stand that so I don't know the biggest question that came from the committee was how many days
069would we consider before we would consider a student actually walking that line of treny well the sad thing about that when we do that is we really change the culture of our area and I have heard complaints about that um because families who for Generations are gone for a week to El camp or what nobody can do that anymore now or they're in trouble they get this automatic nasty letter right so that's the other thing we have to look at too is that and we have we have families who take extended vacations and I think there's a lot of learning that happens when kids get to leave this area and see a different culture different you know different part of the world um that's a learning opportunity and and you hate to penalize families for
070being able to do that right yeah I agree 100% so I think it's more I think it's more about the being able to maintain the grade and for the younger students I mean I don't know i' have to get input from the elementary teachers you know how you know they again it's still student specific but you have to find a mean somewhere correct you know I do think if we can get more parents to get on board with the self-directed learner a lot of what we're talking about will go away and the people that the kids that are assistant principles at the high school level are dealing with are kids who are struggling to keep to maintain their grades who need um additional time at school I think you're correct about that Lisa you know
071I look at it from the perspective of a classroom teacher I spent any number of years in a classroom and I always had class participation as is a part of my greeting plan and uh if kid's not in class he's not participating in discussions and other kinds of things and therefore he's going to lose out on that part of his credit now a lot of teachers don't approach it that way I think that's unfortunate but uh there are teachers who do and and you know I I firmly believe that it's important for a kid to be in class uh I understand there are other reasons for them to do other things but they need to guard those days very carefully so that uh you know if you take a week's vacation to go hunting and
072then later you have a long-term illness you know you just put yourself onb as far as I'm concerned so if we sent this well it's going back to the committee but um with the input from Administration and teachers Etc is the board comfortable getting the committee the ability to kind of figure out what might be a middle ground for absences yeah yeah okay and two policies I think are appropriate okay perfect that way they each will govern their own world and perfect definitely make sure that they cross cross reference each other yeah yeah okay all right moving on to the levy update we've got um um any discussion we want to have on the levy update no this is very thorough it's not even complete yet there's more that we're adding to it but we
073see you got Elite basketball on here the Lakeland elite team and then the Ido back volleyball and we one little um wrestling um Matt Matt met with the wrestling club Matt met with um um Junior Tackle Junior Tackle thank you and uh they they actually wrote a really nice letter in favor of um the school district and all of their logos were on there um the uh up north in April they're doing a like a huge almost like a jamere kind of a thing with all their little leag baseball teams um at one of the parks up there and uh Lynn gets to throw out the first pitch and um we have an opportunity to uh talk to all of those parents and answer questions that they might have about the L so we're trying
074to get in front of as many different groups as we can identify um we were at Al city council last night and um just bayew chamber is on our calendar and then Bay Council I think is also on our calendar so if there are other groups that you know of that we don't have on there and you have a contact for us if you let us know we'll reach out and see if who can get front of them the BFW or the we've been trying we have been trying to get they won't return our calls so Rebecca keeps calling at some point we might just need to go knock on their door um I did put the five town hall meetings I sent invites to all of you for those and then I also sent
075those to Maria so she put them on your board calendar will you please just plan on posting quum notices just in case I was going to say the same thing just just in case we don't all get back to you and maybe I wasn't going to go but now I can make it to this VI right I thank you you're yeah just post the Corum notice the uh the town hall meeting at Apple Elementary is the only one that has a different start end time because they have um their Judo class up there and um so we reached out to Jennifer boder to see Kim is there an opportunity we could talk to your Judo parents and so she said well if you're going to do a town hall meeting at Apple I'll just start
076Judo a little bit later and invite my parents to come and so that's why the time is off a little bit so they'll still have the opportunity for their practice and U but we'll parents will have an opportunity to talk to us if they want to so who's doing the um the media the uh like the ads uh electronic ads and things like Target river that was the $20,000 in donations that we got okay cuz I'm not sure that that's clear it looks like the district's paying for it and there was a couple of things have you seen it the one that shows up on YouTube um yeah so it says you know um come join Lakeland like they're signing up for a uh gym membership uh the other thing is is it it looks
077like the district's paying for it it's not clear that somebody else paid for the ad so we'll make sure that um we can reach out to the company and just um put uh PA paid for by uh with um donations through citizens for Quality education is where it came from so yeah whoever just name the person um and then the other thing is um because I had questions about that too myself how did we arrive at a 100% graduation rate so what I said at the um state of the community um is I talked about how the state does our grad rate for comparing us to everybody else on that four-year cohort and I talked to them about how Lakeland High School's not uh rate is always going to be le less than timberlakes because
078Lakeland High School has life skills class and those kids can be in school until they're 21 and if they don't graduate when they're 18 they automatically count against Lakeland High School U for their graduation rate but but that's okay because that's good for them so what we talk so there's the fouryear cohort rate and then there's our actual graduation rate last year so at all three of our schools last year 100% of our seniors at each of our schools graduated excluding the life skills stud excluding those yeah I think we need to be clear about that because it it's a little misleading because we don't have 100% graduation rate if they go look it up they're not going to find that and it's not clear it's very bold in the video but it's yeah it's
079I think it's I think doesn't it say that 100% of the seniors last spring graduated I thought that was a language that uh yeah it might have it's still it's still a little misleading it's I mean or if we just have a place to point people to the website and say oh right here is the explanation the explanation for right cuz I didn't know what it was I you know yeah I didn't go to the uh community of D and I wasn't able to make that I will put that on there any more conversation on the levy upate nope thank you nope yes thank you moving on to fall Sports and spring practice I've just had a I've had a lot of people reach out and parents who are concerned that if it looks like
080it's business as usual that we are kind of just assuming that this is going to pass and they are worried about kids getting started and then and then us having to kind of pull back the rins so um this is obviously completely up to the board but um I do think we need to be a little bit careful so that the community doesn't feel like we're completely dismissing the more than 50% of the people who voted in November who said no and that's what it kind of feels like and so if we could just push pause on the spring practices until we get till the we get to the L election and we know that we have the money and we can move forward um it's just a suggestion for the board to consider I
081feel like it feels like Court Lane I'm try yeah that's why I wrote it the way I did because that's not the intention I'm not trying I I don't want to threaten people I don't want to scare people um but we also did have a very large voter turnout in November and we had a lot of people who came out and said no and what I don't want to do is is say to them we're just disregarding to say so I'm trying to be careful I guess um I mean they're already they already start all the clubs are starting all the high school the eighth graders are already meeting with the football coaches I mean they're already getting excited when do fall Sports practices start official practices for the season don't start until August but
082typically in the spring I don't know what the spring part I don't know the spring start time is but I do know in the spring um they the coaches will start doing um open gym and conditions and seven on seven well I don't think we should stop it because it in essence would not be affected of whether the levy passed or not because we've already had Community people come forward right and told us they would fund it so really the sports would go forward anyways there might be a little hiccup in it but I don't think we should stop it you know I think it should just you know if the funding comes a different way than the levy then it happens if not if the levy funds it then the levy funds it but
083we already had commitment from the community members before um for the $2 million it cost yeah whatever it was they said that they would give whoever it was that told you that you shared it with us I think it was uh I don't remember that conversation yeah I think it was um no real life ministri real life I think was one well they just said if we had to do pay for pay to play that they would try to help with some scholarships I haven't talked to anybody who's willing to fund it yeah there was there was something I don't remember who it was but either way I think we just keep going with the sports thing talk to the ads about this at all the ads or say anything um they they're concerned yeah
084they're concerned about the [Music] perception and they didn't share with you when this actually starts the fall fall prep because it's obviously not fall practice is starting just prep VA prep and I think it's different for each sport it's really dependent on the um the varsity coach and when they want to get started I don't think there's like a specific time in the spring when everybody starts doing that I usually start in March with volleyball yep we already started wrestling football started wrestling just finished this week and we started yesterday wow so if everybody's already started I think it would be more of a more disruptive disruption and I don't think we're going to stop for putting the breaks on the sports aren't going to make all those people who voted no feel like obligated
085to say they're being ignored because they already feel that way just the whole idea of the levy being ran again makes them feel that way so this I think is problems yeah exactly it's just leave it be and let the kids continue and um that our community even if the levy didn't pass our community is not going to let these kids go without Sports I guarantee you it would just I I don't see that happening at all because there's I've never heard anybody complain or have a derogatory comment or concern about the sports it's never that's never been the community's issue if they've ever had issue with the district it's hasn't been with sports so I I don't think that they would lose that the kids would lose the uh participation you know that the
086community would just leave it that way I don't I don't see that happening especially if everybody was already started now would just be really that would be terrible yeah that would not go well so we'll just keep moving forward step by step that's all we can do okay all right um we have nothing to take action on we have dates to remember board member input for future agenda items um I would like to talk about um transportation funding I think that needs to be up um it's my understanding we've been having some uh discrepancies on what we've been charging in high schools and yeah we were supposed to be getting those numbers I had requested them at our last meeting so Chelsea's working assume that that's coming next for the fin all right well with
087respect to that I'd really like to have some insight on transportation's budget as to the fact that if they were receiving all of this money because they were overcharging the schools what was it spent on given that we were told we were a million over budget or yeah over budget but we needed another million dollars to fund the transportation department so I'd really like to have some clarity and understanding what is going on with the finances with respect to the transportation department and I'm not asking that because I think it's one person's uh fallacies here I think it's we have been just doing what we do and now that we're actually looking at various things we're learning that we've not been doing things correctly so we need to understand I want to know where that
088money went y um because it's it's not good so if we can get that on the next agenda do you think Chelsea will have those numbers by the next agenda um when we met Monday she has all of the numbers um that she needs with the exception of some uh bus driver hours so um Jessica derner is pulling all of those for her and then Chelsea's got the spreadsheet ready to go so the they their intention is it will be uh brought to the board on the 19th with all the other Financial great so that was the only thing I would like to have a little deeper dive into anybody else no that was and then the the buses that we ordered that didn't come through where' that money go it's still sitting in the
089uh board approved projects okay fund the buses or the Vans activ activity buses well and I'd like to know if the carpet that was moved the carpet monies that were moved for the abatement at LMS that we not doing like to know that that money has gone back into the carpets I think you made that pretty clear we can double check wasn't on the financials it was still lined out that it's not there so I'd like to know where that money went so L anything else nope I have nothing all right let need a motion to enter into executive session pursuant to Idaho code 7420 61b second we have a motion in a second we need a roll call those trusty Bane yes chair Thompson yes trusty Quimby yes Vice chair CHR yes trusty Jones
090trusty Jones Thank you you're welcome he's being quiet so all right so on that note 7:26 uh we'll go into executive session to run all right so we've come out of executive session there is no action that needs to be taken and on that note we'll Adin the meeting it's 8:49