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9.22.2025 Transportation BOE Meeting - 200U

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2025-09-23
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Will County, IL
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001What is What is it? >> Okay. >> It is 4:58 p.m. on Monday, September 22nd, 2025. Calling the transportation committee meeting to order. Noting no public comment. We're moving on to our um we have to make a decision based on the bus proposal from Miss Fellaini to purchase buses. Um, so she has on there all of our options A through F. Then she has what the new cost is because these are all um slightly used buses and she has the mileage on there for you. We usually tend to buy slightly used buses because it saves us quite a bit of money. Um, and we've had a um a mechanic so we can usually keep them in service and we get more bang for our buck. Um, do you want to talk about your recommendation? >>

002Sure. Also, new buses leave times right now is probably >> Oh, yeah. That's always our problem. They're like a year or two away. >> Uh, small buses is like a year and a half at this point. And not that I'm uh proposing a small bus at this time, but a big bus is at least 6 to 8 months out. So, we wouldn't usually see that bus until next year, minimum. Um, as you can see, A through F are the buses that we have available to us. I I recommend not going with a Bluebird this year, just out of a couple of different things. Coolers tend to have a little bit more like picks and some things. Um they're a little more sensitive type of buses. Plus to get parts for those sometimes we have to

003get those out of Asiggo. So shipping takes a little bit longer or I have to drive up there and that takes half my day and then I'm out of the office longer than I I wish to be. Um our fleet is roughly half blueird half uh internationals. Um, I recommended the letter D mainly because that one, as you can see, approximately 8,500 miles to the 109. That 8,500 miles to about 9,000 mi bus is still available. Um, he is >> $2 more. Let's see. >> For a lot less miles. >> Correct. I mean, the bus is four years old. It is a 72 passenger bus. I'd love to have another 77 just to have an extra one for Career Center because Career Center does require a 77 passenger bus. We have two currently in our

004fleet. Um so looking at that saying that there's, you know, 9,000 miles on that bus. Um that's why I recommended letter D just because it has the least amount of miles on it. Um and if the question is why is there a four-y old bus with 9,000 miles when you do the mileage like what we have here in town, say our purple route, they're putting 16 miles a day on it. Well, when you add that up over four years, guess what? That's equivalent to our purple route without hardly any trips on it. So, it's not like that bus probably sat for four years. Yeah. >> And it was a least return bus. So, it was under warranty. If there was anything major with it, Midwest took it back, you know, whatever. I as far as

005mechanical records, we probably would not have that. Um, they would have that on file if there was something with that. Bus will not come with a warranty with it. If we wanted to choose to purchase mix and warranty, we could do so at that time. Um, this bus will have lap belts on it. Something that that school district must have, you know, asked for at that time when they ordered this bus. Um, it will not have a camera on it. We will have to put our cameras on it. We have removed our cameras from the buses that we are selling. So, we have those in the shop. It's just a matter of getting the time to put those cameras in along with our two-way radios. Um, so that is why my recommendation is for that

006option D and again that 9 85 to 9,000 mile bus is still available. >> Can you explain to me again why I read the thing but I have to refresh my memory about why you're needing a new bus. Is replacing one or addition to >> I would like to replace one. So we have a couple of the buses out there that are just about ready to sell. They've been out of service since last school year. Um, it should was just a matter of having the time to strip those down and get stuff out of there. They're pretty much ready to go now. Um, and I've got two guys getting out the door to try to get them buy them from us. So, selling them is not going to be a problem for sure. Um, we

007have three other 2010 International Max Horses. Um, they're getting older. The one we did purchase from Perser last year, that one has been fine. Um, that one I plan to keep at this point. that has lower miles compared to the two that we have owned since before I started. So, I'm not sure when Mara had purchased those. Um, the one we have to shut the battery off every night because it decides it glows in the dark. It has a wiring issue in it. We have replaced switches on it. We have found that it is the headlight switch. The headlight switch is $600 to replace. I am not interested in putting a $600 headlight switch in a bus that I don't want to keep. And I hope you appreciate the fact that I don't want to

008spend that kind of money. I know it's only $600, but at the same time, it's a bus I don't want to keep. It's starting to have uh too much rust on the body. Uh safety lane is like every time I take it. So, that is a bus I would like to get it out of here, really. And honestly, is it something that I'm going to sell as soon as this bus comes? Probably not right away. I want to make sure that we are good and safe and have enough buses. Um but as soon as Safety Lane's like it's out for sure. How much do you get up to when you sell the buses? How much on average? >> Pretty much scrap prices, whatever is going for scrap prices in all honesty. >> Um, I'll be

009honest, by the time we're done with them, salt and gravel and everything else, we have well used our lifetime on these buses. Yeah. >> Where do you guys go for safety lane? >> Tom's truck repair over in Mon. >> Okay. about how many miles does a school bus have on it before you tell her? >> Um, the ones that, as a matter of fact, I can tell you right now, the bus that I tell you about with the headlight switch, she currently, as I called her, she she currently has only 133,000 on it, but my highest mileage bus that I have right now is about 154,000 on the big buses. Um, and then, uh, however, my little buses, they're all right around 130 to 150 because we put about 10,000 miles on our little buses

010every 3 months. >> Wow. That's why I wondered how much we put on here. >> So, my little buses, they they go through quite a bit of road just because of how far we drive. They specialize. >> Letter D, what engine did that letter D have in it? But all of these, every single bus on here is a 6.7 Cummings with nails and transmission. >> They all have death in them. >> Correct. >> No, it's it's a it's a scam. >> They all have death. They all have EGR. And if we delete them, we're in big trouble. >> Yeah. That's why I was asking where you go for your safety lane because >> Tom's a little strict, but that's okay. >> I Well, Tom's not there. It's Ed, you know, his son-in-law. Fight on. >>

011I went there one time with our truck. I was like, never again. >> Just for the record, Edie, thank you for your service. >> That buses arms did not go there. >> And all of these I think she I don't know if she made it. Anyone that you do buy comes RD safety. So, Midwest takes care of it for us and it's provided so we don't have to do anything to it. >> Yeah. This bus will come ready for the road, you know, when it is delivered. And then we are not looking at a little bus this year. This would be the only big bus purchase you want. I know we were looking at vans. You need a van. >> Correct. I would because we are down to one minivan currently. My um thought process

012was one big bus this year and if I can find two vans for the rest of the money allotted to me. >> Okay. >> That is what my thought process was. Now I did originally have a van proposal um in looking at that van. It is more like a mini white activity bus. I I >> No, you just want like a minivan like a normal minivan. >> Yeah, but like Yes, correct. >> Yeah, because they're not really usually you're not using them for lots of kids. It's just a couple, >> right? >> Hopefully. Yeah. Yep. >> So, something a little more fuel efficient. >> Well, fuel efficient and also a little more user friendly for the coaches and stuff and also for district staff because I would like to get their their van or a

013van back over here so they have one accessible to them, you know, on a regular basis since I How much is in our transportation fund right now? That's right. >> So you already we already put it as part of the budget the 170,000. >> But like what is it? I didn't know what was in there. Is that what how much is in there or what? >> I know. >> Oh the reserves. >> No. What's actually in it right now? Like that would we be taking out? I mean I know it's allocated but how much was it? >> What was the budget for this year? >> The budget. She wants to know what's in the like in the actual I >> probably have one of the board packages. It would be >> it's one of the

014magic numbers he reads. I believe it's I want to say I want to say 15. >> Okay. >> 1.5 million but I can >> so even what what so whatever what she's allocated with money and what's in that we're still good for all this kind of stuff. I'm trying to say. >> Yeah. So every year she has a budget and within that budget so she had budgeted a big bus and a little van or not a activity bus was what originally was it well she said I don't want the activity bus this year but the overall fund making sure we're cuz like I said I'm hearing a lot of high number buses and that's kind of like making me think >> we're going to need a few >> we're doing this I feel like in

015the next few years we're going to be d not draining it but it sounds like we're going to be needing a new bus every year. It sounds >> we usually do at least one. placing at least one every year >> where everything's on a cycle. So we do about two buses a year either two big buses, one big bus, one activity in her budget that's already allocated every year. This is just what she's saying this year. >> So on the lookout we're still okay with getting this for the next and then next year doing the two vans. We're still >> Yeah, this is something that Mr. Cox kind of started when he was back on to kind of put a cycle with Mara instead of coming and saying, "Oh, we have five buses that are

016breaking down and we don't have enough on the road." He said, "Well, let's start where these are on a cycle and we're just constantly budgeting for it every year." And it's just in there >> 1.22 million. >> Okay. >> And very happy to say transportation department in the five years I've been here has never been uh over budget. They've always >> they've always come in under budget. So, >> and there's been years we too they've been like she's come to us and she's I think it was like three years ago. I'm actually really good. I don't think I need anything this year. But then there was a year the next year where she's like >> it went bad. I need two buses when we realize new one. So it it evens out. >> So the

017two would cost it would be >> it would be >> Well, she doesn't have a van yet, >> correct? >> Right. She budgeted for her to purchase. >> Yeah. Yeah. She'll do it within her budget, but you she was hoping to have one. >> You budgeted 170 >> and >> you didn't necessarily budget one and one or one, >> right? She's using 90,000. That's >> But she doesn't like these aren't good enough deals. So that's what she's telling. She's found these, but she doesn't like them. She wants to find better deals. So she'll come to us later with better deals. >> Right. >> So we're not even gonna show you the vans today. The top buses. >> That's what she found. She decided, "Nope, I don't like the >> big one big bus. >> When

018would DB delivered? If they now that again, no action today. If if they decide to move forward and and propose to the full board on October 8, when would you have it? It's um it will be ready anytime in October whenever we were able to provide check. >> Oh, so once we pay once it's paid for it's on site. >> Yes, the bus is at in KP ready basically waiting for cigars. >> So it's either C or D. >> Yeah. >> Correct. I mean D if you want D if it's still there and that is one of those things if we're um >> if this is what we're proposing to the board >> D I know for sure is still there with the 900 >> but that's what I'm saying are they going to our

019board meetings in October is it still going to be there in October because you'll say okay that's why I figured >> if you hold it >> okay >> so if you guys give me permission to hold that bus I can I can >> I mean if there's no real reason to do the other one other I mean the only difference is a 77 passenger thing but if you've got a KCC bus and a backup bus for that and they're fine, then yeah, might as well go with the one with less miles. >> Yeah, that was my question between C and D is how >> it's it's the size and you need a backup. You need your KCC bus and you have to have a backup because if something happens to it, you got to get

020those kids there. And if we already have that, then we don't need it right now. >> I have two 77s and then in the future at some point I'll go back to buy an extra 77. >> Okay. So then through maybe next year you would need a 77 but we'd be okay not getting one after because next year I'm going to come to you for little buses. >> Yeah because you said you need a 277. That's why I'm trying to figure out the order of which >> so is it will it be the recommendation of the >> of the trans. Okay. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> All right. So I will >> this was interesting. >> Now your bus GPS programming now we I know you want we've talked about this. We talked about it

021before the referendum. >> Yep. >> Um got kicked down kept getting kicked down the road because of the cost. >> Right. It's a combination of both Kelly and I. So Kelly originally when Kelly brought it to me precoid and it was more of hey it's a routing software. It's going to help us find the most efficient route things like that. >> Scott was still Yeah, it was not. So, in the last year or so, we've had a a significant influx in parents who want cell phone numbers of our bus drivers and our monitors so they can be on call at all time to find out where my bus is. And to me, a it's a terrible idea giving personal cell phones to people. And b, there's programs out there that you can actually monitor the

022location of the bus itself. Um, Potone has it >> or Shavana has Shavinaw has it. My kids have it. I mean, a lot of school districts around here. It's a GPS system that's it's on your phone. It's an app. So, I pull up the app and it says right there where the bus is at. >> So, I know if I'm a parent and I'm waiting for the bus to at 10:05. 10:05 is a terrible time. Uh 6 6:35 is my pickup time. And I look at, oh, it's 6:35. They're not here yet. I can pull up my app and realize, oh, they're two blocks down. I can see them right there. or um you know more importantly is for the sped department because those are the ones that are have a lot more um span

023on when it comes to picking up kids. If you're in town route, you you pretty much know every single day at the same time. With sped routes, sometimes it takes a little bit longer for a kid to get on bus or it takes a little bit longer for um us to get the distance we have to get to because it's not it's not from here to there to there to there. It's here to there. Yeah. Well, it could be I mean in country it could be beneficial because there were times >> literally I didn't know if they'd come yet because sometimes it'll be 10 15 minutes off and when I have to take the kids I go I'm like >> I don't see her down the road. I'm guessing we missed it and we get

024halfway to the road and I see those kids. I'm like oh no we didn't miss it but I'm already on the way. >> You already have this? >> Yeah, I think we have yours. I tell you what. So, Kelly reached out to and found two companies that basically do the the GPSing. And I made sure the one caveat I said, "Don't give me GPSing for routing software. I want GPS for routing software, but I need to have this parent community, this parent app available." So, the two companies that responded were uh right there. And I can give you the full I actually believe I made you guys um >> you actually have the whole thing. >> Yeah, we have everything. I tell you what, Katie Gers, >> she's on it. Um, >> so it's Transfinder

025and then Tyler Traversa is parent company is called Tyler Tech. >> It's easier just to call them Tyler, but the actual software is called Traversa, >> right? So, digging through um I did my best to try to make it as simple as I can to tell you what the two different prices are. >> Um, so one of one of the transfinders is for just six vehicles. >> The other one is for all 18, which is our full fleet. >> Oh, okay. And then within Tyler, it's the same charge base if you do six or 18. And then there's a difference on per year because of the the volume of buses that you have. So for six buses, uh the Tyler company at the end of the year, this is not a one year, so it's

026not a $25,000 uh vendor program. But at the end of end of year three with Tyler, you'd be spending 342 and with Transfinder, you're at 237. If you just do our sped buses, >> if you expand it to all of our fleet, you're then over a 3ear span looking at 50 59,000 or 36,000. Now again, if I break it down, I gave you the full threeyear, but if you just look at a yearbyear, um, Tyler charges you a base rate of 15,000 to get it done. Now, Transfinder actually incorporates it into their yearly cost. So, that's why their yearly costs are a little bit more, the 133 versus um, I'm sorry, like the 10 9 versus 76, 115 versus 7,600 or the top 7,000 versus 2,000 because they're including they're they're breaking that base cost

027over the over the course of three years. That's why I would make sure I gave that to you. >> And the cost to this comes out of the transportation. >> It would be part of the transportation budget. Yep. >> Is it a year-by-year contract or would it be multi-year contract? >> So, I believe it is a three-year contract. >> Uh after the end of the three years, that third year would be basically your year after every year after that because it would be an annual type subscription on your software. That software includes your updated uh like mapping anytime you add a subdivision or new road bridges >> they do would they do all the updates and would they do all the fixing >> automatic automatically updated in the software so it automatically comes to my

028uh you know my software on my computer it um both companies also work with powers that I found though is that um transfinder does nightly automated uh automated updates a school with P school. So if I have a new student that comes in and I have their transportation information in P school, it automatically updates and puts into the routing software and puts them on a route that night and then sends me a in the morning. I will have an email or however I have it set up that pop up and show me, hey, new student on the route, you know, even though I probably already knew about it anyway because every the school is telling me new students coming, but it automatically will put them onto a route for you. Tyler's a little more I

029I'm still a little uh confused as to see how they add new students. It seems more like it's a manual thing that I would have to go and manually add new students and stuff. they just to work with P school, Skyward, all their your major um softwares that schools use, but it seemed like transfinder was a lot more user friendly, a lot more um one man show kind of friendly as well where Tyler was integrated like a bigger school district with multiple uh users there. >> Now, does this also map for the drivers? So, like if you have a substitute bus driver that comes in, will they automatically see the map and the stops of the do? Okay. >> So, if we had tablets, which is a false, which I did not want to do

030cuz I was trying to keep cost down as much as possible. >> Yes. Um, >> but would it work if they had like an app on their phone? >> They can't use their phones on the bus. >> So, it can't be like mounted. Okay. >> That's why I was curious about, you know, have you before we had it in our cars, we just mounted our phone and have it on there. So, that's why I was curious. So, however, but it comes out in a turn by turn similar thing where I print it out and hand them their directions and stuff. >> The one nice thing about the routing software is then I'm not scrambling at the beginning of the school year where registration is running until literally the night before school starts and I'm still

031making routes whereas instead I push buttons and print papers and it's it's done. You know, granted, is there going to be some hups? Of course, there is. I mean, let's face it, technology is always great. You can use it and it works. You know what I mean? However, I think it's going to make things a lot easier, especially with parent app where parents can send messages into that app. I will get those messages. I will have an app with my phone that I can do stuff. Again, if I'm driving, that's going to make it a little bit tighter, but um in theory, when I'm not driving, then I can be able to get on the radio and send message, you know, get the cost of that, you know, so and so's not riding today and

032>> so did you say the cost after year three is just like the update cost? Is that all it is then? >> It's the update. It's also being for me to be able to get a hold of tech and problems that I have. >> So, just is it like a is it like a yearly fee after that then? >> It's like a subscription fee. >> Okay. Do you know how much that is then or >> it's that year three cost? >> Oh, it's the year I'm sorry. Okay. So, that's for that. It keeps going. Okay. >> Yes. They they said your annual year is year three. Now, Tyler, I believe it would be roughly the same. Okay. >> But again, their numbers were a little bit more confusing for me to follow. is Tyler um

033I don't know is it the same thing like I used Tyler before for >> So Tyler Tech is a very huge company and again Traversa is actually the name of the software that we would be using so Tyler Tech again it's a parent company they have their hand in a whole bunch of different things we use them for a few years if it's the same thing and >> it was only a very short few years for certain reasons. >> So I don't know if it's the same thing like >> yeah not a great experience if it's the same thing. >> So there's a school district that I'm friends with that I went down and looked at their software and I was very confused. >> It's more expensive to have a transfinder but my recommendation is

034a transfinder. Shabana's uh school district their transportation supervisor came down. We had our computers side by side. I taught him a bunch of stuff at P school that he had never seen before and the transportation pages and he taught me all a bunch of stuff with his transfinder other than what demos I had seen. So I got to see it live action. It was so much easier than when I went to my friend's school that has uh traversals for tire. Um >> well and if you're doing all of them it's not more expensive. It's quite a bit cheaper >> if you're doing the whole fleet. Well, and then that was the other thing when you did comparison it made more sense to go with transfinder with the whole fleet because I did it just for

035giggles even though Dr. Dean's like just do six and I'm like >> sweet 18 for five and then I saw the quices and I went and like don't be mad but I quoted them all too. >> Um so I mean and then again it's up to you guys which route you would like to do. Uh special ed for sure. Um but again it's this belt knows because I was um for kids driver for a long time. Um and this country route in the winter for sure those roads get slippery and we get >> and when your driveway is quarter mile half a mile long them kids waiting out in the cold. They hated it. >> But that's too you also hate to be stopped on Eagle Lake and you're waiting for these kids to be

036running cuz there'd be times I'd be behind the desk and they cuz they'd want to wait where it was warm. So you're once again the roads are slick and icy and you're stopped and parked on a 55 mph road. I mean >> yeah your driveway is for sure because it is not a good location at all. >> Now could you send messages that gave me an idea if there is like a bus breaks down? Could you send a message out to the parents on that route just like say yell and be like your bus is delayed 30 minutes due to an accident? >> Correct. And also not only with that, if I've already picked up their kids, I will only send messages to your kids and beyond so they don't get confused as what do

037you mean your bus is? >> I thought you already picked up my kid's already on the bus. Correct. >> How about something like mine goes to daycare two days a week? If we have child care providers that we put into powers school for you guys, would they get the message or would it only go to the parent or guardian? I I would have to check with that, but there might be a way to be able to like put in additional phone numbers in with that. I'm not, but I would have to check on that >> just because I know some kids go to home daycare or whatever. And >> the third one is >> is this for 180 days or would this cover like kids who get do kids have like extended school year here?

038Would they go in the summer? So this would be for those kids in extended school year they would get it too because one of them I was looking at this Tyler one and it said 180 days and I was like if it's for there are students who receive extended school year accommodations like >> transfer I know is all all year round. >> Okay. Maybe he was just quoting different prices. >> It said maybe I missed it on >> I don't know. Yeah, this was Yeah, the very last page of the email, the bottom quote said, "Estimated total per vehicle per day for 180 days of school that was on the email that was attached from Tyler." So, I'm thinking if we have kids with extended school year, >> right? Or that might be it. >>

039Would they charge what would be the extra >> the other one for full year? >> That would be a question I would have to ask my kids. I mean, my thing is always it's in your budget. If you want it and you're making it work within your budget. >> Yeah, this is 12 months. >> So, I have a question. So, this is so we've been talking about I assume routes for pickup, drop off, um, normal school day. So, this GPS finder, is that something that can be utilized by like sports parents too? >> That was like a third question. Yeah, because like if a you know if I have a car you know we our kids travel far for school and then it's like you can be like okay we know they got there or

040you know >> but those are estimate different time >> those would only be within the counties we are allowed one county for free and technically and they are both companies allowed me a second county for free normally they would pay so only counties that I elected to opt in with this would be Will and Handy so because in theory if you're within my those two. >> So could you see once they've entered those counties? >> I would think so. >> Yeah. Cuz I mean I just like as you know as a parent when you're you know when you're >> kids at a game or something like that and they're traveling home and you're trying to estimate like when are they going to be here you know if they stop for you know dinner and then

041you're just you know I mean well >> but then again most kids can most parents can track their kids anyway. I was going to say everybody y >> Yeah, it looks like transf transfinder is for the full 12 months. >> Yes, transfinder for sure I know is all year round. >> Um because that was what um he has said that um if we were to go with them, he would be able to get us up and running probably between April and May. And then that way a summer school and a CSY would be our like trial run. That we're not going blind into next school year. That's a good idea. >> I mean, it sounds like it's a a far away, but it's all the training. It's getting the software in. It's to make sure

042everything there's no bugs getting our school to integrate with it and fully set instead of just here you go blah blah blah and then all the training and hours with me as well. I I think it's a good idea because I mean I understand the parent concern especially if they're going to Sheen or Pink Key in the winter, >> but a driver should not need to be giving out their own cell phone numbers or worrying about texting a parent when their responsibility has to be to the safe. I mean, not that they're not, but like that'll be on the back of mind is, oh, I should tell the parents besides walkie-talking you all. >> Just so you know, we don't give out. It's it's illegal. We don't do it. >> Okay. So, you know, they

043use they're not allowed to call. Yes, but still they shouldn't >> 100% agree with that, >> you know. >> And so you can message them as a parent through them too saying my daughter's not coming to school today and >> you can message her. >> Oh, you go through the platform, right? And she would radio in front. >> It's kind of like using Remind and all those for the teacher >> and and these two counties will cover all of our special eds and all our regular routes minus one. >> So and that one student on that route. So >> I had a question for you. So when the bus drivers have to do pre-trip inspections every morning, >> correct? >> Okay. So how do they do it? Paper or electronic? >> We have we have

044paper. >> Um if we had tablets, we could do electronics. But again, >> this three times now. >> Y. >> So she's planting the seed. So they would do all of the tech like if something breaks all of the fees would cover them to fix >> what do you mean? >> Well it's just software >> the software like if there's issues with the software they take care >> software then I call right into the tech and everything else and we work that over the phone and I call them broken as they sit next to me before I break it. Yeah, if she had a tablet, >> we're going to be getting a tablet request in Do we cycle out old >> tablets? Why why why I guess why wouldn't we just issue tablets if it

045was easier? >> So, the tablets that they would they're a little bit different. They one we would have to have all the mounting hardware for all the buses. There's another cost. Um and then we there I don't think we can just use any old tablet. I think we have we'd have to see and um I didn't get into those type of >> areas because I didn't want to get into that cost. Um but I am not sure we can just use an Apple tablet or a Samsung tablet. I they're pretty rugged. They also have card readers on them. Uh then we get into a whole another area of what what do we do with our IDs because then there's scanners and then we're scanning kids on and off the bus and now we're taking even

046more time getting kids on and off the bus and and there's like a whole another conversation around that and I know I'm not sure we are all ready to have that conversation. >> That might be a two or three >> and cost. Yes. >> Well, that we may find the software and like you know it's not worth it for everyone. Maybe we really just want it for sped. Yeah. I mean, you never know. >> A huge school district. Sure. When you've got thousands and thousands and thousands of kids, sure. >> We're a little bit smaller school district. We're a little bit more of a personal school district. We get to know our kids a lot better one-on-one. I mean, I'm a subbus driver and like three4s of our kids I have routes. I can call

047by name. One, I've been here long enough to be able to do that and I drove the routes enough to do that. Um, but I think that we have a little bit better handle on our students that way rather than those schools that are thousands and thousands and thousands of kids busting all over and then one person gets missed then you know chaos ensues you know. >> Now with this would there be the potential which might not even be a thought for you or whatever but I know in the subdivisions like a lot of your stops are like house house if not anymore. Okay. When my when we lived in town, my kid was it literally made three stops for three neighbors like because we we got away we used to have bus stops and

048then we went to where it was just houses. I was like well with this we could kind of go back to bus stops because parents could see when the bus needed to be there. That would save a lot of time because I remember just when we lived in town watching the bus go through the neighborhood. It took 15 minutes to go a block because it was stopping stopping stopping stopping because it had to drop them off at their house. >> That's because there's no sidewalk. So, we were at >> Well, no, we just got away cuz they had to be dropped at their house, which I just I didn't know with this that could be a potential maybe saving some time. >> Absolutely. We We've tried a lot of the town um tried to get

049some of my more mom like drivers to not cater to that as much. Try to do a quarter, maybe a big and then quarter. The only ones that I have allotted and allowed are my little kitties. >> And make sure that they get in the door. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Cuz I know some of them like our old subdivision, we didn't have Like, so we I was like, "No, you have to pick up at my house." Because my kid can't walk through like >> we had where I was. We had But it was I was just like >> I would always tell my kids go walk down there to that house. Like they don't need to stop here. You're big. >> That's we actually consolidated our subdivision because they were supposed to stop twice

050and we just all agreed to meet at once. >> So So it is >> you can add this within your budget and be fine this year. So it is the what you recommendation if she can do this within her budget because if she says yes then that it would be my recommendation to the board. >> I I mean I would love to >> I would I would say that >> if it's within our budget it's it would be a but not specifically. I don't know. You may have to give something else up instead. >> Yes it will be within our budget in our budget. I would >> I think this is a good thing for all of our students and all of our parents to have it's it's one >> um and you know when

051we like when we brought that other um that other program on board you know if there's if there's things that we can do to >> ease burden on our staff make things easier for our our our staff that is also a benefit to our community I mean I think we we should definitely think about >> six or 18 that's that measure I would say 18. >> 18 for sure. Okay. >> If it fits within our budget. So >> recommend. So this is a who said April May thing. >> We have to approve this now cuz like we're in September. I'm like super nerv like approving things to get like done like this that maybe are not a necessity. I'm like nervous about doing it so early in the school year. Like not when nothing breaks

052down like well it wouldn't be paid for until it's implemented which is now. Are we is that >> right? So this would be once it but now this is a separate budget item. So this is a different bucket. So the transportation is complete. If our boilers break down no transportation like a bus breaks down like if we if we like I don't >> that's that's why >> I'm just it's so early in the year spending money on stuff that's not a necessity makes me nervous. Like I'd rather do it towards the end of the year and we know okay we're good. Let's you know what I mean? I just didn't know when this money will be taken out just in case. I mean, I'm I'm sure you I'm sure they're going to be great, but

053I'm just saying as a whole, >> you know, when >> that's mostly as a board, most of our decisions should be forward next year. We shouldn't be >> That's saying what the money taken out. >> Yeah. But we should be making decisions for things. >> It would only be So, I assume we're I shouldn't assume. I'm sorry. >> My thought is listening to you all, you're looking at transfinder for the 13 for 18 buses. >> Okay. So then that that it would just be the 1339 once it the once the year it the job is completed and then annually. So I would assume you're going to pay the 1339 in Octoberish when or whenever it happens to get done and then July once the new fiscal year starts you do the the 1099. >> Okay.

054>> And we pay for it. >> So you're paying for it but you can't use it until April. >> No no no. the the the 133 would be paid in April when it was taken care of and then for next >> You said October. >> I said October. >> You said October. That's why I was like once you was on your road once you approve it in October they have to get the work done. Yes. You get paid >> when it work is done probably April May and then July one you'd pay the next next. >> So sorry I apologize. >> And then you can >> but we're right we're allocating it. We're putting it into our budget. We know that this is a cost that that we're going to increase. >> And I'm also

055able to because when you do the levy, I've not done the levy for the next year. So that first levy money, I can levy for two cents more in the transportation department just to make sure that there's coverage in there. Um I levied for less this past year finance. Um because they've always been really good about being under budget. So I actually pulled back from transportation this past year. So I can always put some more um I'll put some more money back into that. I think it's a safety. >> I was just going to say safety issue. Yeah, that's that's convenience, you know, like Yeah. Lots. >> They don't normally ask for a lot, but you found out if you usually if you ask the board for something and it's legit and it's within the

056budget, we don't really say no. >> You just say transportation doesn't ask for a lot. >> They don't. We have the bus cycle. They came and asked for cameras years ago. That was kind of a big purchase, but that was something that was ne necessary. We talked about this then, too, and we're like, "No, you get cameras. That's all you get right now." >> The problem is is when we do ask >> Yeah. But >> but I think when the bus is on a cycle keeps the the budget consistent where these little extras don't make a huge dent. >> Okay. Where are we at? >> Other Do we have any other >> noted tablets? Superintendent said not yet. >> I'll be that guy. Oh, okay. >> Will we do we have a rough idea for

057vans or >> is that something where it's like time is of the essence of Yes. You've already spoke to us and you want bands and you have a budget. Is that something where we're going to have to >> next year? Next year. >> She said next year. >> No. >> Next year big. Is that something where we're going to have to approve not to exceed what you have left or whatever? >> There's not there's not that big of an emergency for it. It's just we want to maintain a cycle. >> I just didn't want to get >> because lots of those with their deals, they're kind of time is of the essence, >> you know. Yeah. Yeah, the problem is just finding what we are legally allowed to drive within our licensing and coach's licensings

058and um not finding something over mileage and you know in good shape. So >> try to find that unicorn. >> Well, I know that's why I'm saying would that would that be more beneficial when we have the new saying not to exceed a certain amount so when she does find it she can get it. >> No. Okay. >> So let's rain Kelly Finia. >> Well, we've done that before. That's not abnormal because like you said when you're looking for a uniform when you find it half the time oh by the time a board meeting come you know >> it's not there it's not >> like give her like a range of prices like hey if you can find one at this price right >> well I mean she's got her budget so we just always

059say not to exceed >> what she's looking yeah excuse me but okay no more public comments so we are journing the transportation meeting at

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