Lisle 202 Board of Education Regular Board Meeting July 22, 2025 (LIVE)

001Okay, we're good. Okay. Good evening. It is July 22nd, 2025 at 7:30 p.m. and I would like to call to order the meeting of the Lyall Community Unit School District 202 Board of Education. If we could please have a roll call. Miss Sims. >> Okay. >> Um, Miss D. Dominico, >> present. >> Miss Foster, >> present. >> Mr. Helderly, >> present. >> Mr. Nikler, >> present. >> Miss Novousel, >> present. >> Miss Sims is present. And Miss Alman, >> present. Thank you. Uh, if we could please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Next is the Lyall 202 mission statement, which is to provide

002our learning community with the essential education, skills, and experiences for future success. And we'll keep those thoughts in mind as we meet this evening. Um, next is our public comment and uh, Miss Clark, if you would like to come down. It's Jillian Clark. >> Thank you. >> Yes. And we I don't know if you've spoken before, Jillian. Oh, we allow three minutes. Um, and you can present whatever. We're glad to listen. The board doesn't generally respond, but we're glad to hear your concerns. >> Thank you so much. Hello. Thank you all for um, hearing me speak. My name is Dr. Jillian Clark. I am a school psychologist. I was hired by the district to perform school psychological services in order to cover a leave. Unfortunately, I was not able to complete that leave um in

003its entirety, but I did complete four weeks and followed standard procedures um that were in my contract of how to get paid and continued to follow up and unfortunately have yet to be paid. So, I have a copy of my contract as well as time sheets um through half of the third week and then I have an estimate for the third and fourth week. Um but all of those invoices were submitted and followed up on repeatedly and unfortunately I have yet to be paid for those four weeks. So, I am here to submit that paperwork and >> Okay. I share this. >> I would ask that you would give Dr. Philippiac to your left. Um the paperwork and we'll make sure that that gets followed up on. >> Thank you for coming tonight. >> Y

004>> there were no other blue cards at this time. Uh were there any public comments uploaded? >> There were not. >> Okay. Brings us to item five, which is our consent agenda. And um before we go through the consent agenda, there was one uh question on item eight, which is our board determined free transportation. And Dr. Philippia, I think you had information on that. >> Uh I'll pass it over to Dr. Mr. Wilkinson. >> Yeah. So um in terms of free transportation, obviously extracurricular activities, things like that, that's all free and not reimbursed by the state. I think we're looking at what's reimbursed by the state which means we have to provide that transportation. Um and so the only other one I think it was mentioned in the question was uh Bennett driver's ed shuttle.

005And so we as the public school district are required to provide driver's education to any of the parochial students within our district that would like to take it through uh the district where Bennett is located. And that's us. And so we are required to provide driver's ed. Whether or not we're required to provide that shuttle to get the students from the high school back to Bennett um is kind of a gray area. And so um whether that's required, the law doesn't specifically say. Are we reimbursed by the state when we provide that transportation? Yes, we are because it's curriculum related. I don't know if that helps answer your question. And there's no other areas that are um where we're providing free transportation that is not required by law. >> Yeah, it does. Thank you. >>

006Okay. And before we um vote on on the action item or consent agenda rather, I was remiss in not mentioning that Miss D. Dominico and Mr. Naggler are both um participating remotely per per board policy 2 col 220. So they will also be able to vote remotely also. So with that, I will entertain a motion to approve consent agenda 5A 5A1 board meeting minutes. 5A2 payroll pay orders. 5 A3 vendor pay orders. 5A4 personnel. 5 A4A certified employment. 5 A4B certified resignations. 5 A4 C classified employment. 5 A4D classified resignation. 5 A4E extraduty employment. 5 A4F extraduty resignation. 5A5. Authorization to release closed minute meetings for public inspection and destruction of audio recordings. 586. Amended school year 2025 to 2026 classroom lease agreement with school association for special education in DuPage. SASID 587 annual review

007of safety hazard conditions 588 board determined free transportation. If there's no uh questions or comments on it, I'll entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda as it presented. >> So moved. Second. >> If we could please have a roll call. >> Sure. >> Mr. Helderly. >> I um >> Miss Foster. >> I. >> Miss Denico. >> I. >> Mr. Nagler. >> I. >> Miss Novousel. >> I. >> Miss Sims is an I. And Miss Alman. >> I. Thank you. Item six is our financial information. The board acknowledges receipt of the following reports. 6 A financial report. 6B treasury report. and 6C investment concentration and collateral report June 30th 2025. Are there any questions or comments on those? Okay, it brings us to item seven uh which is our discussion items and um with the

008board's consent I will entertain a motion to switch seven the order of 7A with 7B so that we are talking about the the tiff first. I think we have uh uh someone who would like to participate in that discussion. I I see our mayor in the audience and asked ahead of time I believe uh and and so we'd have that before the board policies. If I could have a motion. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> Okay. >> I >> Thank you. That brings us to 7A which is our proposed tax increment financing Lincoln Avenue Route 53 redevelopment project area. Dr. Philippiac and you can >> I do believe we have the mayor here tonight and so I thought uh you would have an opportunity maybe to give a quick

009overview of the board and uh spend a little bit of time as to how the but four is uh part of this larger project. >> Sure. Hi everyone. Um it's nice to see you all again. Um I swear after this meeting hopefully you'll stop seeing me here for a little while until we welcome. >> Yeah. Um, so this tiff is a quarter along Route 53. Goes from about the Hyatt down to the vacant property. Um, that's heavily flood plane south of the Hyatt on both sides of 53. So, um, a couple things I wanted to just kind of discuss that came out at the joint review board meeting that I think are really helpful for everyone to know and understand. Um, first is that Honda Alle um, is really one of the drivers for this.

010Um they are currently located on the east side of the street and are planning to relocate to that west side, the wooded area that is um currently vacant. Um and they explained that this was Honda corporate contacted them and said you need to have space to for I think it was 600 spaces for uh to hold cars. Um and they didn't really have a choice in the matter that you will find this or you will lose being a Honda dealer or you need to find somewhere to go that will suit that. So, they were good about coming to us and and saying, "We listen, we've kind of put together a plan that we would like to move across the street and then back fill the space where they are now with another smaller dealer um

011to kind of create a corridor of um like auto dealers through that area. Helps them all to have a little bit more um dealership in in a small area. Um and essentially the the risk is if we cannot accommodate them in some way. um and this pretty much the best feasible site that they have in terms of the space that they need that they will have to start looking elsewhere and um the public member of the joint review board um is former mayor Broda and he um explained to us that that has happened in the past with we lost a dealership um to another community who put a tiff in place to attract them. So the Honda dealership is really a big driver and again the district is a little bigger than just the immediate

012area that um Honda and Vinfast and the other smaller dealer will be occupying. Um I know there's a lot of question as to why the Hyatt is included. So a couple things there. Um first I want to make it make it clear because it actually was another thing that came up at the joint review board meeting that the Hyatt is not Hyatt owned. It is an independent operator owner that flies the Hyatt flag through a contract with Hyatt corporate. So, it's not like it's the Hyatt Corporation asking for help. Nobody at the Hyatt um has asked for help yet. They were part of it because that hotel does struggle. Um our other hotels in Lyall um have the benefit of being closer to Neapville and they get a lot of overflow from Neapville events and

013then they're also situated right next to Science and Spirituality which their events help fill them. The Hyatt is in between is off the highway which seems like a great thing but it's kind of in between that corridor of of business and then office buildings that originally could have supported it but sit half vacant now. So, it doesn't have the occupancy that it needs to be successful. Um, and it is in a state of deterioration in the area. The deterioration that we talk about with TIFFs doesn't mean that we're going to go in and fix that. It's just showing that throughout the district, we are ripe for incentivizing development because it's not an area that is attracting people and attracting attention for economic development right now. So, a it's not doing very well. Um, and we

014have um been working to set up a meeting with the owner to find out what his plans are. Um, he reached out to us through his lawyer um and wanting to just meet and talk about what their experiences has been. Um, does not mean that we're going to fund that person to do anything specific. It means that we're worried that there's going to be the need for redevelopment or a vacancy on that large plot of land and a hotel sitting vacant. And if that were to happen, we want the capability of having an incentive in place to help turn that over into something that's better suited for that area. Now, so that's really a big driver for why the H high is included. Um the again similar to the east Ogden tiff the the total

015limits of that also help drive the total incent that's a available to be offered as incentive. So the more properties that qualify the larger the incentive pool could possibly be if everything rises as you would expect it to when devel redevelopment starts happening. So I just really wanted to kind of hit those two points because it's something that came up at the JRB. It's something that that I found really helpful and it seemed to help a lot of people around the table when we were discussing it. Um, but I just wanted to throw those couple points out there. Um, let Dr. Fabbec do his thing and then just be available for questions. >> Okay. Do do you want to respond to questions now or or >> whenever I I don't know if Dr. Philippia if

016you have anything else you wanted to present to them. I can do it now or after for further presentation, whatever works for you all. Sometimes it's very clear when something appears to be a meet the butt for test. Meaning if there isn't a tiff, we really don't think the development's going to happen. And so when you look at the area across the street from the car dealer, it's been vacant for a very long time. It has some challenges in terms of flooding and things that need to happen there, probably above and beyond what would be an ideal location. And so, um, the standard typically is would a typical person look and say, well, but for a tiff, you probably won't see development there. And so, that part of the tiff seems pretty straightforward. But when

017you look at the Hyatt, at least from my perspective, there's just not enough details yet to show that. But for this tiff, they're going to financially fail. uh when you look at DuPage County the three I think it's three it could be four uh hotels they have the lion shares of uh people staying uh during the night when you look at their occupancy rates percentage it's low but the number is higher than anybody else in DuPage County and so part of the problem in my opinion without having a lot of the details is the height is just too big so whether or not that is tiff eligible I don't know but it is a very beautiful building. It's located nice. It's fully developed. Of course, you could always renovate, but at least in my opinion,

018not having more information, it doesn't meet the but for public subsidies, it will not be successful. You would have to see the financial statements. You'd have to understand what actually needs to be used in public funds to show that. But for the tiff, that area wouldn't be developed. But it's already developed. Is there anybody I have a couple questions, but did anybody want to start? Kate, you have Okay. I I was just wondering I I you know, I've talked with some people in those in the along Warrenville, so that would be further east along Warrenville and I think just this was just a restaurant owner within the buildings and he said he's gone to total catering now because um with co they uh people work are working remote. So I think that might have impacted

019him. But I think they do get the Hayatt does get business just looking at at the remarks on the on uh the website um from the arboritum for weddings and such. But one of the concerns I had is looking at the comments like the Google comments or Yelp or whatever. some of the concerns I don't know that a tiff could rectify that would increase their business and that with the the number of you know their occupancy their number of rooms occupied is still is still higher and I think as we develop more activities in Lyall they'll you know that would help too one question um can you give an example of what money what tiff money would be used could be used for at the high >> sure so We would a the way a

020TIFF works is that the next step would be redevelopment plan and only specific actions can meet the um qualifications to be reimbured under TIFF and that includes um I believe demolition is in in there, purchase of the property is in there um and new building remodeling. We're not looking to help the Hyatt remodel. That's I don't think that's even a qualifying expense under TIFF. What we're more staging is the ability to redevelop that parcel if it becomes necessary. And the information we've been provided without getting into detail that's more probably a personal private business matter is that they're losing money monthly. And it would not be surprising and it was brought up to um the former village manager when this started that they may close the doors. And it's more so that if that happens,

021we are prepared to redevelop that property. Otherwise, we're coming back in for a sightspecific tiff if we have a project develop. And that's a much larger um area together can help all boats float up. When you're doing a bunch of potholes, a sightsp specific, you're really just leaning on whatever that specific property can generate. So, we're just trying to, I guess, take a more balanced approach knowing that that property is at risk. We're not going to fix the Hyatt. We're going to provide an incentive if somebody has a redevelopment plan to have a more suitable use there or a different use entirely because the Hyatt no longer exists. >> Or they could sell to another hotel chain. >> They could. Yeah. That they could fly a different flag and they might save themselves. Yeah. Um

022because my understanding is that sorry um my understanding is that the way the contract works with Hyatt um to fly their flag they they have a much different structure in their contract than Sheridan and Hilton do then it's not very advantageous for the owner. Um so maybe they could just change the flag, do some work themselves and it'll be better off. Um but right now it's not in good financial shape as an individual property and the owner may look to offload it. He owns several hotels in the area including the Sheridan. Um and he's been um pretty happy with how the Sheridan is doing because they get a lot more occupancy. Um it's not that the Hyatt has bad numbers, they just are losing money because of the way the everything is structured. And and

023I think um remodeling might I mean that was one of the comments that and and um cleanliness and courtesy you know those are some of the comments that a tiff wouldn't help. So >> I think those go sometimes handinhand with >> a business that's starting to not a a business or a location that's starting to fall off. Those are the things that fall off first and then it just kind of becomes that downward spiral. >> And and again to Dr. Philipp's point. We don't we don't know that they're we don't see the books to know. We don't we don't have that information to know that kind of a way losing money. Okay. >> Right. >> All right. Kate, I think you had a question. Actually, that conversation answered it. I just kind of what the

024likelihood of this is and just sounds like it's trending in an unfavorable direction, >> right? And it may turn around. Maybe they'll change things. Maybe they'll they'll change their flag. They'll re renovate. will do something and that will save them. We're not looking to save them. We're just looking to have a back stop for economic development in that area, especially with Honda moving and that trying to redevelop that that piece. If then we just end up with a big vacant hotel sitting there, that just hurts the the dealerships now next to them. >> But going through the steps, should that happen, uh what what would I mean, we you'd go back for a tiff again. All right. to go through the process and >> well if if it was not included in this tiff that's

025correct but as long as it's included in this in this overall district that we're creating then it would just require a redevelopment agreement and it would be the next step in the process of similar to what we had just done with clarity and Collins in the last couple of years for uh family square where they come in with a proposal here's how much money we would need here's what we're looking at um and we negotiate what their public benefit is what their um their investment is and what our investment is and then metrics for that project to move forward. So I mean to Hyatt being included in the overall district doesn't mean we're targeting the Hyatt. It just means that it's available as an option for redevelopment >> and they have not come and asked.

026>> They have not. They just are interested right now in meeting us >> and kind of explaining what's going on with them and especially having the two hotels within Lyall, the differences that they're seeing and what they're what they're experiencing. It's just been hard to get on his calendar. >> I have a question. Um, you mentioned Honda wanted to move across the street to that area. Is that a done deal if the tip goes through or is it just maybe if it works out we'll move there if we don't find something better? Like >> they have an engineer in place. They have concept plans and they're they're working through engineering right now. So it is um most likely going to happen. Um they do need um a tiff incentive to make it totally feasible along

027with other alternatives. Um, so sales tax sharing, we'll probably have to do that in addition to the tiff with them to be able to uh accommodate all of the needs that they have. Um, and we're still working through that financial piece with them and trying to understand what they need. Um, they've thrown out some stuff. They they've had several meetings with the village manager. Um, kind of going over the concept plan. Um, and it's kind of a nice phased plan of them moving across the street, being fully built out, moving in, and then the next and then the their existing location, being uh demolished and rebuilt for the next use. Um, so it's in process, but it is completely dependent on the availability of incentive funds um because that property is largely flood plane and

028they will have to mitigate that. And there is also an emerging wetland that was identified during uh their preliminary engineering and wetlands in DuPage County are a thing. So it's going to take some time and effort and resources to mitigate that wetland. >> But you would if if the tiff were not it was not favorable that the tiff be included. You would come back or you know re-evaluate whe the tiff on 53 without the hyatt. is that >> so if we if the if we weren't able to move forward with the Hyatt included then yes we would probably start the process over expend additional taxpayer funds to redo the study redo this whole process um to exclude the Hyatt property but we're asking for that inclusion because it's it's a serious enough a serious enough

029risk that it impacts a lot of our bottom lines from property taxes and it's definitely an impact from sales tax and hotel motel tax. Hotel motel tax has been going down. We actually got a financial report last night at our board meeting about that and the loss of a hotel um will be substantial and we'll need to be able to react quickly to that to get something else developed in place um and be as agile as possible because that that loss will be very meaningful um for the village for sure and from a property tax standpoint for all of us. >> Why why would you need another study if it's all there and the Hyatt is included? because you have to redo the boundary. So, a lot of the field work would be done, but

030they still have to redo all of the reports, all of the process. And a lot of this comes down to process. You know, the fieldwork is a piece of it, but it's the the board time, the meetings, the JRB, the the public hearings, and this whole process is something that our contractor support go through all the effort with us. And then there's a lot of staff time involved as well. With with this tiff though, you were talking about the hotel motel tax. We if we include the Hyatt, it's gone, right? >> Hotel motel tax. No, >> no, it'll still be there even if we do the tiff. >> But for us, >> right, that's really just a village. Okay. For us, it's >> Yeah, that's something that we >> It's for the village, but no.

031>> Yeah. The school district doesn't benefit from hotel motel tax. Yeah. >> Okay. >> How many How many hotels are in Lyall? There's three major hotels. >> I'm trying to think if there's any anything small. >> So, within the three major is the high >> There's a couple of the Sorry, my bad. Um, there's a couple of the ones next to the office buildings that are the extended stays. >> Okay. Focusing on just the three majors. Is the Hayatt the only one that's financially struggling, do you know? >> Um, as far as I understand, yes. And that has more to do with this location compared to the others um and where they get their business from. And so you've told us a little bit about what you can't excuse me do with TIFF dollars. Do

032you have any idea what you would do with TIFF dollars to help support the Hyatt? >> It wouldn't be directly supporting the Hyatt. >> Okay. >> It's really for that economic redevelopment. It's it's risk mitigation. >> So So if it if it goes under, it's part it would be part of the tiff already. So you wouldn't have to rework anything. And that would incentivize them to come in to demolish it to build something else that's more feasible for that location. Is that the thought process? >> Yeah. If they want to change the flag and remodel, that's not a tiff expense and that's not not something I would ever entertain a redevelopment agreement for. >> So it's included in this boundary of the tiff >> with the expectation that if it fails, you have a tiff

033there to demolish it and redevelop it. >> Yeah. It just makes it easier for a developer to plan a project knowing that the village is on board with it and and working with them on it. >> What about the scenario where they sell it and another hoteler comes in to do something? Does TIF money go towards that new owner? >> Potentially, but only for TIFF eligible expenses. Um >> Okay. So, that's still he we're not going to be paying for drapes and beds and Okay. >> No. >> Great. Is there a possibility with the tiff and the surrounding area um I'm not saying including or not excluding the Hyatt but if it gets redeveloped well that'll help that Hyatt. >> I think that's possible. Um, so clearly a set of uh car dealers isn't necessarily

034going to provide, you know, occupancy for the hotel, but I think as that entire area starts to kind of come up again, there's more traffic, there's more stuff going on, people going there uh to the dealerships, maybe they see the Hyatt as an opportunity to host an event or do something there that we there's at least a little bit of like carryover that could help them. Um and frankly it's all ships rise. >> So if that area is becoming more successful, the Hyatt hopefully has more incentive to to improve itself. Um attracts more people, there's more visibility and eyes on it. Um, it's not as wonderful as if we were doing something that was already bringing people in and they needed hotels there. Like, like I said, science of spirituality, all of the events that

035they bring in, you know, people from all over the world to meditate and take yoga classes and all sorts of stuff. They can fill the Sheridan with one of their events. Um, Hyatt doesn't have anything right there to grab on to like that. Clearly there's the arburitum, but I don't think a lot of the arburedum weddings are necessarily drawing a lots of people from all over. They're a lot more local weddings and they're smaller. So if Hyatt were to get more business because they're hosting meetings, they're hosting events there. That's one potential I think. Um and then just the visibility of it with a lot more traffic um going to the dealerships. Would the development around the Ogden corridor we spoke of last month help you know if there's a large project on lock former

036potentially that's some hotel revenue? >> Yeah, absolutely. And I think a lot of larger developers and people looking for larger spaces >> if Yeah. >> get notice when somebody is moving forward with projects >> and we've been historically not um with a great reputation with development. So if it people see stuff moving forward, I think that also helps other developers feel confident that they can come in and do good things here too. and and I I I understand, you know, that that it would be a great opportunity for the Hyatt to do, but I'm just struggling with the but for clause how it meets a tiff because it seems like the Hyatt needs an incentive for them, you know, just to develop it themselves and have some ideas and, you know, marketing and there a

037whole lot of things that they could do. But I that's where I struggle is does it meet the but for um >> so the Hyatt Hayatt's own financial issues are one thing and we're not looking to use the tiff to help them deal with their their own issues. It would be a larger project. um regardless of what's happening and what choices they make and their financial status as a village, we have a responsibility to make sure we just don't have empty vacant buildings sitting there for years. Again, not something we've been excellent at in the past, but this is our chance to try and fix what we've done in the past and say, "We know this is a risk. If we include it here, we have the ability to be agile if something does happen.

038It's not a guarantee that it's going to stay. is not a guarantee that it's going to go, but it's enough of a risk that we want to be able to be swift and have it redeveloped in some way if Hyatt no longer exists there. >> How long has How long has the Hyatt been there? >> More than 10 years. >> Oh yes, definitely. I'm going to >> more than 20 years because if it's writing was >> if it's been there for 20 years, I don't know how much data would show that it's going to suddenly close. >> I think >> no businesses slowly close. All businesses suddenly close >> without seeing their financials. All we're doing is going off of a comment an attorney made. And so >> it's more than that. >> Okay. And

039so in my opinion, the height is too big when you look at that that building compared to what I'd consider to be its comps in Dwage County. So they're never going to get the capacity, but they're drawing more at night people in beds than anywhere else in Dwage County. And so if they've mitigated uh their structure in a way that they're only using certain floors and have staff to clean those certain floors, they should be able to turn it around. What would really make a difference there is if instead of having car dealers, you had restaurants. So then it's like, "Oh, let's go to that hotel. We can walk to all those restaurants." TGI Fridays is right there. Also, if you had an exit eastbound on 88, if you're driving, you go, "Oh, that Hyatt,

040it looks gorgeous. I bet they have a bunch of rooms." You you can't get to the Hyatt. You have to go all the way down to Ogden and come back or you had to have thought about it before you saw it and get off at Neighborville Boulevard. So, it's difficult to get to. It's too large of a building. Putting a car dealer next door is not going to increase the number of people sleeping in beds. People don't go car shopping and say, "I'm tired. Let's go take a nap. Let's go to that hotel." And again, this is just my opinion, but I feel like the area is developed and it's premature to say, "But for a tiff, that area wouldn't be successful." Now, if they shuttered their doors, they were vacant for a few years.

041It's like, boy, we need to get a tiff in there to be able to knock it down and maybe get somebody to actually want to do something there. But if they have found success for decades and now we're fearful that something's changed and they're not, I just don't think we have the details to say the butt for has been met. >> The office corridor was a big business for them and that no longer exists. I used to work there and my former engineering firm had taken over two full floors and now they're down to half of a floor and they have no intention of ever bringing everyone back because they had people die from catching COVID in the office. Those buildings are in trouble and that segment of highest business is gone. >> So if

042on the butt for if they were shutter would it pass a butt for test? Absolutely. Because that's not an attractive enormous thing to have to demolish. Demolished demolition of is they went out of business, shuttered, they and that property be redeveloped, it would fall under the butt for test, >> right? If >> and I think that's what we're talking. We're not talking about helping the high at all, >> right? or they're successful or they need to redesign their rooms or floors they use, it's include it now so that you save some money not having to append that area with one more property. As long I I'm fine with >> you can't append it. It would be a totally different door to it and that doesn't draw at all from the funds and take advantage of

043the funds of the adjacent properties. >> So you're just trying to save some time here going let's just include it now. I mean I'm fine with as long as no money goes to help their business. I'm fine with that. >> But it seems legally it has to meet >> the district has to meet the but four. >> Yeah. >> And the district does meet the but four. >> And as to one of Dr. Flipiac's point, I'm not willing as mayor to sit back and wait for something to be vacant and and demol and sit. We've seen that too often in Lyall. Not willing to let that happen for years before we take action. This is what this board is going to be about is that we need to be agile and we need to make

044things happen and this is an opportunity just to be ready if that happens. If not, excellent. Then Hyatt recovers and everything is great. But I don't think waiting years is the answer anymore. >> Okay. Um, >> I was going to say, do you have an idea? I know it's I didn't even think that you would be here. I didn't realize and I would have come up with this question, but um do you have any idea how much money the Honda dealership brings in in like taxes or >> I don't have the property taxes off off the top of my head. I know that it's been about a 3% increase on the Hyatt year toyear. Um the car dealerships are helpful for property taxes. They are also one of our largest sales tax generators. They're in

045that top 10 that produce 60% of our or 58% of our sales tax revenue. That's a large loss if we lose the Honda. And that's that's that absolutely is at risk if we don't get this passed and moving in a timely manner for them. Now, I don't think that they are going to walk away after a month or anything, but they are under the gun from Honda Corporate. Heather, did you have any questions? Um Paula Oh, I'm I'm just checking with them. >> I I don't know if this is a statement or a question, but I just I guess on this point wanted the group's thoughts. I I mean, yes, we're talking about all the financial things. I'm just thinking the safety of our community if a building of that size with that many rooms

046closes. I just I have a safety concern with what vacant hotel is not um it's attractive to the wrong sorts of things that we would not want in our community. I think that's fair. >> Well, it's an if, you know, but I I I see your point. Paula, did you have anything that you >> uh or Greg, are you still there? >> Apparently not. as a as a filler as you're waiting for them. Wasn't there a great success story in one of the other hotels locally that the owner sold or went bankrupt and somebody came in and then turned it around? >> I feel like we had the top 10 dinner there that had new signage. >> Oh, >> yeah. Over at >> Marriott. >> Yeah, Marriott. >> Headed at the Marriott. >> Yeah, that

047was incredible. I thought that they were financially struggling similar to the Hyatt either went bankrupt or sold it and then the new owners came in and were able to turn it around so it wasn't a vacant building. In fact, it's gorgeous compared to what it was before and it was an incredible experience and I think they have found success. So, that's another option, too. It isn't as though if taxpayers don't subsidize that hotel that for some reason it would be empty. >> But we're not subsidizing the hotel at all. This is only >> if they >> funds that would be available if the increment is becomes available because there is redevelopment occurring and there is growth in EAV. If nothing happens or turns itself around and it's not producing much more than it is today

048great it stays but it also isn't that impactful. It's tiffs are can be complex little animals and the idea that taxpayers are somehow subsidizing is overstated. >> So if let's say that area turns around the Honda dealership gets bu uh built across the street all this the value of that land is going to go up right as economic uh activity goes up. If there's no development on that hotel property and they start to become successful, are their taxes still frozen or will their property value go up and therefore they would pay more taxes because their property value goes up? >> So their EAV if it rises it'll be frozen just like all all the rest of the the tiff areas. But this is um we're also um have said and it was part of the

049um the motion that the JRB made and then tabled is that the 2% uh that we discussed for East Ogden for places like the Shell and the Hyatt were willing to do the same thing and offer like increase year-over-year of 2% um on those developed properties so that you're not losing out on the on the fact that there is growth. So if there's growth, you see at least some of it um and then the rest of it goes into the the tiff itself to uh be used as incentive. >> And Mary Joe, that or mayor Mayor Mullen, I'm sorry. Um the that 2% is divided by all the groups, right? All the inter. So it's not it's not just 2% for Lyle school district, >> but it be it's 2% over the EAV and then

050everyone gets their percentage share that you would just like when we do um surplus. >> Yeah. So right now they're they're getting they're less than 3% growth. >> I think it was just like slightly over three for the last three years. >> So what we're talking about is that when EV goes up, if it happens to go up 4%, we're still going to get that 2% growth. at least they're going to pay that taxes on that 2% and therefore the tax burden isn't shifting as greatly to properties outside the tiff and that's one of the problems not problem the realities of a tiff is the tax we don't lose money we're still going to raise our levies as we do by CPI the thing is it's the tax burden shifts to outside the tiff area

051right and so but these are frozen >> only for the increment though too the increment because you still are getting that baseline If it was worth $1,000, they're going to be still taxed on $1,000. But what we have with the 2% is now they can be taxed on $1,020 and $1,040 something dollars the following year because there's still 2% growth there. >> Right. >> Unless the county assessor comes in and says you only have a 1% growth and >> Right. But so we're we're that's not a cap. That's a a minimum that the growth that we that's taxable. I had two other questions about this. I just zoomed in on the picture a little more and just wanted to clarify. I didn't catch this earlier. Are there residential properties on here? >> Yeah, there's a

052small handful that are in the flood plane on the south. Um, we've already had questions and concerns of people saying, "Are you taking my house?" And that's not what they're in there for. This is similar to East OG and also that there's no re no residential redevelopment planned. This is more those properties a are in the flood plane and in our comprehensive plan, you know, our long-term look of of what we'd like to see for zoning in these areas. They're not intended to be residential in the far future. So, if somebody were to come in and want to redevelop like buy those up and redevelop them, we would be working with them to do something commercial. >> Okay. So, long-term plan is if people were to voluntarily those could become commercial. And then the other

053one was uh just west of the hotel. There's two ponds, lakes, I'm not sure what to call them. Looks like little bodies of water. Are those even developable portions of the property or are they just in there because it kind of just fits. >> I just >> I don't have it in front of me to remember exactly what. But yeah, I mean if they're if they are separate lots, yeah, it's probably just part of they're probably separate parcels within that overall Hyatt. >> Okay. >> property because I know like that that little swath is all Hyatt and then the parking lot actually they lease back from the owner cuz that was all a big subdivision including the the the place that um Honda is looking at. Um and it's it was it was kind of

054pieced off. We even talked about a little bit this morning. It was kind of pieced off over time. The part that I think you're talking about though, that's kind of an overflow for the river, or at least it has been for the last however 20 years. They're working on it right now. So, I don't know if it they're mitigating it or whatever, but that's right where they're doing the bridge construction and they tore all that up and stuff. So, um I don't think that that is develop. The hill is I know cuz they've been trying to sell that, but um the base is not to my knowledge. I think that's just flood zone for the river. Okay, that's what I was thinking. So, all that over there is kind of a wash. >> Yeah, that's

055my understanding on it, >> so to speak. >> Yeah. Is is there any availability make that the exits and entrance on 88? >> I thought you were going to say a water park. Um, >> well, it would be an off-ramp. It could be steep, but I was wondering is there have there been any discussions to make that a fully, you know, you can get off westbound, get on westbound? >> I don't think there's been that discussion. And I think part of it is the arboritum property makes that very difficult. >> Yep. >> And it's really not the vill's purview. >> You know, it's highway tollway. None of that ownership is ours. >> Yeah. I don't I know the ownership isn't ours and there would have to be some conversations with the surrounding area with the

056uh ID do >> I do and um it just it's I'm wondering if there's any studies that said if this would have been fully you know exits and entrances both east and westbound if that could change the viability of that area. I can go back and find out if there's if Idots done any studies on it because I mean it's it's hard not it's hard to have a state route that isn't fully accessible to a major highway like it's always been weird >> but I think that's always been because they were you know where they put it is right up against the arburetum and it just makes it so much more difficult to construct anything there. You'd almost have to be flying over Ogden to get around it to get over >> which would be

057like a slide a slide >> and then it is like a water park, right? >> Yeah. zipline >> just saying the thing we're developing this and we're looking at this I would imagine that has been a limiting factor in the area >> probably has but I don't I'm not aware of any studies of it >> continue to be and >> I not engineer so >> okay um Dr. Flipiac, do you have any thing you'd like to add? >> I do not. I appreciate you coming here tonight. Um, >> thank you for answering our question. >> I hope you understand that we all love Lyall. We want Lyall to grow. Um, >> I still like you anyway, Keith. It's fine. >> Um, I really appreciate a couple of things. Number one, when you did the downtown

058TIF, you looked at the areas that really needed to be developed and you didn't circle the whole downtown saying we might do something in the future. That felt good. Um it we appreciate your willingness to understand that this will cause a shift in tax burden to the rest of the community and your willingness to then not and the East Ogden and also on this 53 development to say we can appreciate that we are going to rebate um up to 2% of the EAV growth if there is any. So I think that's supportive of the community. Um I think parts of these tiffs are incredible and will make a difference in those areas. I think speaking for myself, I'm just struggling with including the Hyatt because the Hyatt someday may fail and we need to use

059TIFF funds to knock that building down perhaps. And so, um, a lot of great things here, but just because there's a piece that, um, in my mind doesn't meet the butt for doesn't mean it's not a great project. So, thank you. >> Thanks. And I'm sorry about the heat in here. We've noticed yesterday that it's very warm and we're working on >> it's comfortable. No, we're fine. It's okay. All of us last night were sitting around sweating at the at our board meeting. So, it's very, >> but we're sitting above our >> Thank you again. Thanks. >> Okay, we're having a little um uh audio uh difficulties. So, they're going to try to unmute again for any further discussion or else they'll text what their comments are on it. So, do you need uh to

060know from us just generally where we're >> um so I serve on the joint review board. Our meeting is tomorrow and so I'll need to know whether or not you want us to vote yes or vote no. >> Okay. Let's um I'm going to ask Paul and Greg to both try to unmute uh if you can and we'll at least attempt that and then we can kind of go around. Um, Kate, your thoughts on >> I I mean, leaving a hotel of that size in our community makes me real nervous for reasons beyond the tiff. And I I know that I'm not sure where that falls with the butt for clause, but um having the ability to do something to prevent that to me is might be worth >> you you wouldn't be preventing it.

061The tiff is developed so if it does happen, you have the funds to knock it down. there's nothing in this tiff that will be used to save that hotel >> or to knock it down immediately so there's not 200 plus vacant rooms in a a vacant property. It just >> that does give me a little pause on that with the safety concerns that come with a vacant property of that size. >> There's no vacant property. In fact, that has probably the most beds filled on any given night. So, we haven't seen the financial statements to know whether they're not financially strong. We know based on the number of hotel motel tax that the village collects that they're one of the highest in DuPage County. So I think maybe that's a scenario, but we have no

062data to support the likelihood of that happening in the near future or long term. >> All right. Well, I just, you know, after what the mayor shared, I I do feel like I hear that it's a a possibility and there's potential there. the car dealer. I think expanding and moving longterm means more sales. Um, and it this wouldn't change for those residential areas. Would that change their their property taxes or that would not be a part of it? TIFF is complicated, but in short, what would have been paid by that area from the day the tiff's put in moving forward gets shifted to the rest of the community. And so I shared on the east agent um the village was wonderful in saying we're going to give you 2% you can abate it back to

063those people so they don't see a financial impact. So I believe there's a way to make the financial impact negligible to the rest of the community. >> Okay. I mean, I'm I'm leaning towards yes on this one, but I I do think maybe a little bit more like seeing those studies would help me make a final decision. That hotel, like I said, just gives me pause. >> Can I just ask in in with that um I don't think we're going to see those figures, right? The joint review board is meeting and >> No. uh tomorrow there'll be uh a vote and then if the majority votes yes then um the village will get a clear message and they need fewer people to vote yes uh at the village level to pass it versus if the

064joint review board majority said no I think you need a super majority in order to pass it at the village level. >> Okay. All right. Still thinking Dan your thoughts? >> Yeah. Um, I lean towards a yes. I think the the 2% for both this tiff and the octon tiff is I think that softens some of the tax burden shift to the rest of the district, rest of the taxing district. I think it's a kind of a compromise so that we get some development in this town. I look at the Hyatt being in there really it's they're saving money so they don't have to if should it fail hopefully not they don't have to go through this whole process again for that one property so as long and so as long as there's no money

065going to the Hyatt which has been said to for drapes and whatever improvements they need to do I'm good with it the business will succeed if they can succeed by changing their business model whatever they do they you know they can do that so I'm for Randy, your thoughts. >> All righty. We're trying. >> Maybe >> it must be whatever the light is on for them. >> Yeah. I don't know. Okay. So, um I was going to say, oh my even um without the Hyatt issue or not meeting or whatever, I'm actually leaning towards yes on that. I think it would be good to see that property area developed or have the option of it and I think it would give them more options for that probably. Um and I do like Dan said um

066the 2% to kind of help mitigate a little bit of the cost of >> and and I just want to be clear, we all want the Hyatt develop. We all want that area to develop. It's just will it develop but for these property taxes. And so when you look at the Hyatt, will the Hyatt be developed without these property taxes? >> I'm not talking about the Hyatt. I'm talking about that area of land next to the Hyatt that hasn't done anything for >> That's definitely a no-brainer in terms of being tiff eligible. I think most of the questions are whether or not the Hyatt would be able to be developed without property taxes being used for it. That that's how we're being asked to analyze. It's not whether or not growth is good, whether we

067think it'll fail. >> Right. So when you go tomorrow, are you voting whether or not to include the Hyatt or are you voting whether or not to do the TIFF at all? >> It's the entire TIFF as >> Yeah, the whole tiff. Right. >> Right. So that's included. So that's why I'm saying I'm looking at the land next to the hotel that really needs to be developed and where the dealerships are currently now needs to be redeveloped. So that's why I'm in favor of it. I'm not saying the Hyatt needs help or anything. I just think it would be good to have the extra funds if something did happen, but I don't think that's the case. I I don't know. I mean, I know that guy owns the hotel at the Sheridan. He owns I

068think the Double Tree also. Um >> to in Oakbrook. >> Okay. In Oakbrook. Okay. So, I mean, he probably has an idea of hotels and what they're doing. So, I don't know. I am for it, though. I think that's the way I'm leaning for. Um, I do have a quick question that came to mind while Kate was sharing her concerns about the vacant hotel. Um, if if the Hyatt went out of business and was vacant, we would still require a developer to come in with a development plan to do something with that property. The village cannot just come in and say, "We're using this these tiff funds to demolish that property." We would still need a developer to decide they want to do something with that property. Is that correct? >> So, that would be

069the most likely scenario. I think we do have the ability to demolish it if it made it more attractive to uh develop um as part of it. We could use tiff fun tiff funds to do um that if we owned it, right? >> So it's if it goes under, we don't own it. Um it's it's to it's going to sit there. We're not looking for the ability to demolish it. We're looking for a new development to come in and take over that space in whatever manner that makes sense when that happens. >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Mhm. >> Um, so I will say I don't think the Hiatt makes sense to me, but it is also pretty apparent to me that it would be a complete waste of village resources to go back and adjust

070the TIFF at this point. It sounds to me like the TIFF is includes the Hyatt if we say we are all for it except for the Hyatt. We have to go back and redo all of this. Um, which is unfortunate I think. Um, and I guess I also think I made a comment last time and I'll make the same one. the turnaround time on the information to decision is not ideal. Um, but I guess uh given all of that, I would lean towards yes. >> Would it be okay if I may respond to that? >> So, just so you know, both East Ogden and Route 53 started at the same time before I took office in this capacity. Um the village manager and I have talked and if we were to pursue another tiff, this

071would go much much differently. We wouldn't be at a JRB and having that be the really the first time people find out about what exactly the tips included. There'll be sitdown meetings with everybody individually. >> But you did say you probably won't be coming back to us about this soon, right? I think you said that earlier. >> I said hopefully not for a while. We probably will when Family Square needs to be redeveloped have to put in a project specific tiff at that site, but that will also look a lot different to some of the points Dr. Flipc has made that we will have a lot more financial data because it'll be just about that project only and we'll be able to come to to everyone with here's the real real development plan. So >>

072so I do apologize for how fast this has felt. Um there was a lot of work behind the scenes and then suddenly it became you know on your guys's radar and that should have happened much much earlier. >> Thank you >> Mayor Mullen. There we did get a Paula asked a question. Miss Domano asked a question. If the Hayatt does not fail, what happens to the tiff? >> So if they everything goes along, they're just still under the tiff for >> they're under 23 years. >> Under the tiff. Um >> and 23 years is the max. It can close sooner. the one over um I know it's not in your jurisdiction, but UTI were closing after a much smaller time because all of the incentive was used, they've grown much faster than anticipated. Um and

073now we're at a place where we're just going to shut it down and all of that goes back to the taxing bodies. So, um if it's not used, you'll continue to get the 2%. um we won't expend any funds there and we'll um give back surplus as that's available also to all the governing bodies um if only the Honda and the other dealerships are what's happening they may not hit like the um incentive they may sweep it all up all at the beginning you know that's one thing too high it may not even matter um down the road if Honda needs all of the incentive to make this work and that's an investment that we find to be worthy because of the the large property tax area and for the village the sales tax revenues.

074>> Hope that hope that helped. >> Yeah. >> So So there's great success in the Ogden tiff and this tiff. It's not the full 23 years. >> No, I think if if things move forward with Ogden as they're supposed to. If the the primary interest in Lock former moves forward, I think we're looking at much shorter. >> Thank you. Okay. Um, I'm going to ask Mr. Negler if if he can try to unmute and if not if you can uh let me know. Um, Miss D. Dominico is leaning yes because of the Honda uh dealership. So, I think at this point you have the majority of the board. If Mr. Negler can try uh um Mr. Negler, are you trying? Okay. This is Yeah, we're not going to do this again, I tell you. Um,

075okay. Just Okay. Well, at this point, without his, I think you have the majority of the board. >> Yes. Thank you so much. And thank you, Mrs. Mayor, for coming tonight and explaining everything to us. >> Thank you guys. >> Thank you. >> Yes. Thank you very much. Um, Mr. Nichler also supports the tiff, so Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you very much both of you. Um, a lot of work put into on everybody involved in the in the committee and in the background. So, I appreciate all that. All right. The next item then is 7 uh B, which is our first reading of board policies. >> Press 19 119. >> Our next exciting topic. Feel free to stay, Mayor Mullen. All right. Let's get set up here. All right. Starting with uh is

076already got the sheet up. Let's give a moment. Great. Okay. So, starting with policy board member oath and conduct. Uh which suggest there was a discussion. Have we adopted the policy to include the optional sentence shown above is press plus one. Um, do we want to include that sentence which is bring it up? Where is that? It's the it reads, "A board member who fails to abide by the oath of office or the code may be subject to action by the board including but not limited to formal censure and referral to the regional superintendent for removal of the office under the board policy 260 board member removal from office. Do we want to include that sentence thoughts?" And I think there's also a question whether uh our lawyer John Fester has provided comments or on

077this adding this sentence. >> So uh I think since this the first read I think we were interested in seeing what the decision of the board is. If there's interest in adding that optional sentence then we could certainly add this to the list of items from this press policy that we can talk with uh John about uh after the meeting. So, >> uh, if it's the will of the board to explore that sentence and understand what that what that would look like, then we'll certainly add that to our next conversation with, uh, Mr. Fester. Okay. >> Anybody have thoughts on whether to include the sentence or not? >> Anybody have And this is I mean, do other districts have that? I think it would be like standard verbiage, >> you know. I think it's I

078I didn't check. I don't know, Dan, if you looked into other districts, but I think it is this is the first time it's being I mean, this is the first time we've seen it. So, I >> I I think if they belong to press, we don't know yet what they're what they're going to do. >> So, I I looked from the perspective and I read down the the oath. I shall respect, I shall encourage, I shall recognize, I shall abide, etc. I look at each one of those points going can we like how do you would you center somebody on that like I mean it would be how egregious would it be if somebody said I well I didn't strive to ensure continuous assessment of student achieve you know I think it's >> you know

079like what would I have to do to break one of these >> you' have censure so I almost like well is what weight does that carry if the points here are bit hard to quantify should it happen. >> Yeah, I think Dan, you make a really strong point because it's like the one you just read. I you know, that's you could look at it two, you know, people could look at it different ways and >> Mhm. >> you know, person one and person two might have different standards for that. So, you're right. There is a little bit of a gray >> or a lot a bit of a gray area. >> When we look at our board norms, they are more specific like, you know, not sharing things are close session, etc., etc., you know.

080So these I just find it hard to >> well our board norms are are with the code of conduct. So I mean that that's >> we you know that's that's the way ours are written. But um I think it's just whether it's enforceable and do we want to put it in there if it's not enforceable. So I I think we functioned well without it. I guess I'm not sure that it's necessary. That's my failing on it. Yeah, Pam, I agree. I think it there's I think we're doing well without it. >> I mean, just because it's written in it it it doesn't we could still pursue um >> Yeah. >> you know, options and and actions if we if we chose to do so without it being there. >> Yeah. I agree with that. I

081don't I don't think we need to add that. Any other thoughts? So, accept changes. Uh, anything from Greg and Paula? >> I, you know, I'm I'm not going to go through the text. Paula agrees. >> Okay. >> Great. All right. Uh Greg gives a thumbs up. All right. >> All right. Well, let's >> you know what? I think one of our uh board norms or board cord that we won't be using cell phones during a board meeting. So, this is >> I think this is an exception. I hope >> it's it's exception. Yes. All right. Moving on to um board policy 2 col 120 uh E2 exhibit web site listing the development and training completed by the board members. Um as we can read here I think um rather than the template the following is

082at the bottom of the meet the board page on the district's website. There's a comment from Pam. You'd indicated this. Um I think we had five members say accept changes as presented. So I'm not sure. Um Paula, I know this is difficult if um you had some suggestions to discuss including the statement or did I >> I you know it's so small I can't >> No, that's a copy paste from a >> Yeah, >> there you go. Let me fix that. So Pam, you had an additional comment on there >> and Dan, are you on page which page? Um you if you can't read it, it just says that she was saying um that we have it on our website and that um it tells that all the board members have successfully completed the training

083requirements of the school code and then um from administration they thought that that met the requirements. >> Right. I and and that's the way that we've handled that in the past is that we just put a um the statement on there. Um at this point Marilyn updates that when we do the and and I I think personally I think that's sufficient without actually listing the training because that would be cumbersome to keep updating each time. So >> well cuz we follow up on it too. Like that's >> Yeah, definitely. >> It would be different if that wasn't something that was followed up on. I think >> and we added that uh previously under the board one of the you know when we looked at this in the past we just added the generic statement. So

084>> okay so accept changes as any other discussion accept changes. Great. Thank you. Make a note of that. Okay. Um, moving on to 2 col 13 board superintendent relationship at six me board members uh say accept changes presented. Any discussion? Um and actually just go expedit the next uh four the similar the 71 140 search and seizure 7 300 extracurricular athletics 7 through 315 restrictions on publications high school all of these we had six board members accept changes as presented any any discussion on any of those >> I would just long form yeah I think that's good >> great um also Also 8 col 80 gift gives to the district with six members board members uh say accept changes presented any discussion >> okay >> I think Paula mentioned something did she >> she wanted

085to know that you're talking about 21 120 if 180 I missed that in my last read out >> oh okay >> but now se segueing to 21 120 E1 exhibit guidelines for serving as a mentor to a new board member board of education member Um Paul asked, "Will the exhibit be housed in the board policy? I have the same questions for all the exhibits presented." >> It it already is. >> Okay. >> If you if you look in on uh board books, I mean, I'm sorry, not on board books, but if you look on the website, um the exhibit is there. >> Okay. Any further discussion? Um anything from Greg or Gregor Paula? >> No, not that I Yeah. Okay, moving on to 2 col 220 E4 exhibit open meeting minutes and four five board

086members accept changes presented. Pam, you had a question on page 20 open meeting. Does the board feel it is necessary to add the name of the person taking the minutes? >> It's it's in the exhibit. Um, I will say that I don't think it's necessary because it's either going to be the board secretary or the board president, but I I I just brought it up for discussion because it is in that exhibit. So, in case anyone else felt differently. >> Okay, everyone good? >> I don't think it's needed like you said. >> Okay, we want to >> actually one more thing. I think in the past if someone else other than the secretary took the notes I think it's actually in the notes of the meeting. >> Um so it's not like something you have

087to list separately I don't think. >> Right. Mr. Naggler feels it's not needed. >> Okay. Excellent. All right. Move uh moving on to policy 2 col 220 E9 exhibit requirements for no physical presence of the quorum and participation by audio or video during disaster declaration. Got six board members. An indic accept changes present. Any discussion? Okay. All right. Moving on to the rewritten ones. There's two exhibits here. 2 col 240 E1 exhibit press issue updates. Um board members accept changes presented, but I think Pam you indicated where the language uh incl to add and designate and designate after superintendent on pages 28 and 29. Um and then additionally on page 29 uh suggest adding if requested after school official >> right um the end designate in on page 28 and then also I suggested replacing

088superintendent secretary with designigny um because I don't >> okay I see where you're talking about on the side >> right >> okay >> and then also on page 29 the top sentence suggest adding if requested after school official. >> I mean if we want to be consistent with the rest of our manual then I think yeah that makes sense. >> Yep. >> Some point in five within the five years we'll have that and designate as we were. >> All right. We want to uh any other discussion? >> No. Good. Okay. So accept changes as presented with the suggested changes. Yes. Um, moving on to 21 240 E2 exhibit develop a local policy. Uh, same thing. Uh, we have some suggestions to add an end designate on page 31 and two spots. Three spots really. So,

089we're good with something changes with the suggested changes. Good. Okay. Great. >> Yes. >> Moving right along. Um the policy 1 col 10 school district legal status with six board members say accept changes presented. Any discussion on that? Okay. And then um moving on to policy one col 120 district organization operations and cooperative agreements. Um Pam here the press site includes the sentence the district participates in the following joint programs environmental agreements and calls for a list. Is this something we want to include in our policy? If so, how detailed should the list be? >> That was actually >> that was Paula. >> I'm sorry Paula. >> I believe it's under the business I >> Yeah, correct. Uh so we keep those joint agreements under business services and then there's a subheading called other documents

090and there's a link uh that you can access there that then updated when those agreements are updated. >> So it's under the finance information on the website. >> Correct. >> Mhm. >> I think that's a good way to do it instead of having to re-update our policy every time an agreement changes. like it's better to have like a link going to the thing that you just update in one spot. It's my thought. >> Yeah, good call. >> So, it's already there. It's already there. >> Agreed. That's a good call, Randy. >> All right. So, we'll uh accept changes as as presented then. Okay. Just make the update. Okay. Uh we moving on to policy 1 col 30, school district philosophy. Um I think Pam you had suggested adding on page 37 number two adding and

091administrative staff after superintendent and on page 37 also adding uh districts uh and the word districts before continuous and replacing plan with framework >> because it's it's actually called the um >> continuous framework. Yeah, >> the district continuous. Yeah. >> Yep. It's very specific to us. So, I'm good with that. Anybody other? >> Yeah, I'm good with that. >> Okay. Following Greg, >> they'll they'll pipe in. I guess they'll pipe in. Okay. >> You know, I think they also have an opportunity before second reading to another thumbs up. That's >> I don't want to make them feel excluded. So, all right. Excellent. Okay. Uh moving on to policy 210 school district governance. I think we six board members indicate accept changes as presented. Any discussion on that? Okay. Hearing none, moving on to 2 col

092240 board policy development um adding u and does Pam has suggested on page 39 adding um and says he needs after superintendent. So are we any discussion? I'm good with adding that. >> I'm good with that. >> All right. Moving on to policy 330, chain of command. Um there a couple questions about where our organizational chart is. I think um we haven't publicized it at all, but there's there's two things. There's the chain of command and there's an organizational chart. Um neither of which are on our website. So, excuse me, allergies for summer. What we're doing is we're updating the chain of command. We've got a lot of new employees right now and so we want to be able to look at who reports to Jason, who reports to me, so on and so forth.

093And so Jenna and I are working on a document to make it clear and we'll put it on our website. Uh that's the org chart chain of command. When I looked at other school districts, what they have, start with your teacher, then move on to your principal, so on and so forth. And I think we have that listed on who you can contact, but I think I'm going to have a combination of both an organization chart and then chain of command. and then we'll have it on our website for anybody who wants to find it but was surprised when I wanted to look at um examples at other organizations um I couldn't find organization charts so um at policy references and so I'll update it um and make sure we get it on our website

094it exists but it was a long time ago we created it >> I was looking at a couple of the neighboring districts also and I couldn't find anything and under search but that would be good to have >> it does have chain of command because I think our policy talks about that that you should need to follow the chain of command if you're a parent and you have questions about your student. Start with your teacher and then move on to your principal and then move on so on and so forth. And so we'll get both of those documents on our website. It >> it's one thing to have it. It's another thing to actually have it easily accessible. And so we'll make sure that not only will we update it, but we'll have it on

095our website for anybody who might want to Google it and find it. >> It's probably easier than policy. So good. >> Yeah. So, I think with that um and it accept changes as >> presented. >> Yeah, I think they're good. I just I think it would help too to have it on the website because then because I think everyone just knows their teacher, their principal, and then and then it all goes to the superintendent. So, there's a lot of people. Have you if you're going to add one just a quick side note, have you considered a a grid with responsibilities? I just I'm not sure everyone knows what everybody does just so they would know who to >> so Jenna did a really good job on our website under the find it fast as to

096who to call. So I don't think if you see something that we didn't include but um there definitely is a nice document there that if you have a question you want to know who to call if you want to registration you call to this person if you want to find out about so you know fill in the blank it's it's all there but please take a look at it and if you feel like we've missed something we'd be glad to add it. I feel the who to call covers a whole lot of it. >> Yeah, it does. >> Yeah. >> So, I think that was Heather, that was your question and and Paula is I believe also one. So, good. >> All right. Moving on to the next three. >> I'm so sorry. When When

097do you guys think you'll have that on the website? >> Two weeks. Okay. >> No, that's good. Um the next three policies 4 col 50 payment procedures 4 490 student activity and fiduciary funds 41 180 pandemic preparedness management and recovery for each of these six board members said except changes presented. Any discussion on any of those three all those three accept changes as presented. Great. For 520 ex e exhibit resolution of prohibited sexual harassment new to district. Um I think Paula you indicated will this be included on our online board policy? >> It it already is. >> It is it if if you go in through the website I don't know the other but if you just scroll past the uh 520 the exhibit is already there. Great. And then um any other discussion? We'll

098accept changes presented. Okay. Great. Moving on to 5 colon 270. Employment at will compensation and assignment. We had six board members indicate accept changes as presented. Any discussion? Okay. Moving on to policy 740. non-public school students including parochial and homeschooled students. We had four board members accept changes presented but we had some questions uh from Pam. Do the building principles agree with the language in this policy? >> I just wondered if I just wondered if the uh the policy is the practice was basically. >> Yeah, it's a great question. So I talked with all three building principles. Primarily these activities as you can imagine take place at the high school. Uh so Tom Markham really handles a lion share of that conversation with all of our coaches and sponsors at the high school at the

099junior high and elementary. There's much less uh but I talked to both the principles about making sure any of those staff members that are responsible uh make sure that they've had that policy reviewed. So okay so yep everyone agreed with the policy and the practice um and making sure that that is consistent. >> Awesome. Right. Thanks. >> Okay. And then Heather, you had a question on how many part-time students were enrolled in the district previous school year grade placement course crediting for nonrecognized school. Does this apply to homeschooled students? And uh administration replied that they're still working on reviewing this our student enrollment data but believes that there's very small number of students perhaps less than five that would be enrolled under this policy. So yes, this would be typically applied to homeschooled students. Okay.

100So with that, do we accept changes as presented? Any further discussion? Okay. >> Is that good? >> Excellent. Right. Home stretch. Um policy 7 col 90 released during school hours. Um Paula indicated that the online press offers optional section regarding voting for high school students. It reads the superintendent where designation shall specify the hours during which students are entitled to vote in a primary. She's quoted the text there. Um, if the board agrees to add this to semicolon 90, voting or attendance at a civic event might also be listed in policy 770 as a valid cause for absence. The high school handbook addendum would also need to be updated to reflect the policy changes of occurs. Um trying to understand Paula what unfortunately um >> yeah I it it might be best to >> I

101think for if we go to second reading Paul can talk to Yeah. So >> we'll kind of table that for second reading >> uh so Paul can fully articulate. I'm I'm not sure the online press reflects what we have in press and I don't know that's that's what I'm seeing with some of the comments. The online press seems to be different than the press that's presented to us. So I think it would be worth the conversation first and >> Okay. So Jason will talk about that. >> Excellent. Um Pam, you suggested adding a cross reference >> just about attendance and and you know truency. It just seems like it should be um that would be a good idea. >> Okay. So we'll table this one. We'll we'll come back a second reading for 790 and

102have a fuller discussion on it. All right. The next one uh policy 7130 student rights and responsibilities. I think we six board members say accept changes presented. Any discussion? >> Okay. >> No. >> Uh policy 7 325 student fundraising activities. Um I think we had I board members accept change of presented. I think uh Pam you had a question on uh are the directors in this policy shared annually with all school sponsored student organizations and parent organizations? administration has replied that at the high school where majority of this sort of activity takes place Tom covers this policy with all coaches and sponsors elementary junior high will make sure it is covered with key sponsors. >> I apologize when I gave my response earlier I was on the wrong row >> so I realized that previous

103policy when you were asking about the principles was about the uh the other schools or other students receiving credit the the non-public students so they were all in agreement with that policy. Okay. >> My answer previous was about this one. >> Oh, that's okay. >> I apologize. >> No worries. >> And I just wondered like the booster organizations and um HSO and you know some of those and that's he meets with or he discusses it. I'm is what you're saying? >> Correct. >> Okay. All right. So any further discussion except changes as presented. >> All right. Our last one, policy 8.1 110 suggest public suggestions and concerns. Uh Paula had considered including the line as found in press online as the opening uh sentence to a col 110. The school board is interested in receiving

104suggestions and concerns from members of the community. And >> again, it's it's I think I think that's coming from press online, but um I mean, we could add the sentence, but I I just >> think it's [Music] >> So, we'll we'll look at both of this one and the other one to see what there's difference in the online version versus the printed version. Right. >> Yeah. Because we we review the printed version, so we're not normally looking at that. >> Y >> um >> All right. So, we'll come back to those two at second reading. >> And I mine was just it capitalized board if we're going to be consistent within that policy. So, you know, we love uh symmetry and we love consistency. So, >> catch all for the capital B. >> All right.

105>> Thank you all. >> Great. Thank you, Dan. Excellent. >> And uh Mr. Marky, I've updated the spre the spreadsheet. >> Okay. Good first job there on. Okay. Uh item brings us to item seven C which is the board of education planning calendar. Did um you know it's almost seems like it's updated each board meeting but uh which it is actually but anybody have any questions or concern about the pol or the calendar as presented? >> I'm good. I do appreciate that this gets updated very much right when we make the decision. >> So >> Okay. >> Thank you. And next is 7D, freedom of information requests, and those are included in in uh uh the report. U no questions on it. 7E did had no public comment for followup. Um I we did have

106a public comment, but it was just a thank you, so there was no polic or followup necessary on that. Um 7F was the superintendent report. I'll turn it over. It's rather short this time of year, but um we've outlined what summer school participation was uh at the three different buildings. We did have a question about why it appeared fewer students participated in the reading uh at as part of I Ready, you have opportunities if you want in the summer to participate in some online work. And so we saw a big drop, but we don't really know, you know, vacations, hanging out of the pool. I mean, this is kind of self-directed and so we don't know why it might go up or go down from one year, but we were excited about the number of

107students who actually did participate. Outlined is the junior high 3-week program that we had with the 18 students, which we're excited about. Um, the high school is usually where we see a lot of the credit recovery. I think the thing we're most excited about though is on um the college credit course opportunity. There was a grant put in place that allowed students who live in the area code 60503 to be able to get some hands-on experience. I think from having now had girls that have gone through high school and college, I have a whole new appreciation for what it's like to try and choose a career uh if you don't have a friend of the family who can talk to you about it or if your family doesn't uh necessarily work in the industry you're

108interested in. And so, um, we've had a big push to try and get students in the medical field, but things have changed, uh, in recent years that medical, uh, facilities really for insurance purposes and HIPPA don't want to have students, you know, having exposure to, but through uh, college at a page and working with Kids Matter uh, springboard program, uh, we had 11 of our high school students be able to go and get some exposure uh, in the medical field. And so, uh, we haven't heard yet back from those students, but we're hoping in near future that for at least some of them, it resonated and they thought, I could see myself doing that after high school. And so, um, that is one of those firsthand uh, experiences that gives someone opportunity to see what

109they love and don't love and want to do next. Plus, they were able to get college credit through it. So, it was a great partnership. We hope it continues uh, beyond just this year, but really excited to have uh, 11 of our students participate. And that was just the zip code 60532. Is that >> 605? 60532. Yeah. >> All right. >> Mhm. >> Great. Thanks. >> And then finally, we're just at that sciental push and trying to get all the buildings ready. So that fresh coat of wax, giving the deep clean in all the classrooms, the junior high, we're at the final stages of putting the HVAC work in the commons area there. And then also, uh, the lockers are painted blue at this point. So, if you have a high school or junior high

110student and get a chance to look, I think you'll um probably not miss the yellow and the greens that were there before, but chipping away at that project. And so, uh hopefully in the next few years, we'll get to that junior high to look exactly like we want relative to the wonderful buildings we have at the high school and the elementary. Any questions? Anything to add? >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. >> Item eight is our committee reports. uh facility master planning did not meet. Finance uh did not meet this month. Uh 8C is policy and um >> well we we went through 28 policies tonight if you were counting and um >> first reading >> on first reading. So second reading we'll revisit a couple of them. >> Okay. Excellent. 8D is

111a vision to um uh the report is in there and anything to add to the report? No, I I think that uh it was great to have I think we said 106 community members participate. Jenna did a good job of taking all of the feedback from all of the tables and trying to pick out the top three. It's not to say there weren't five or more, but these are the ones that appear to be the major themes. And so, you'll hear more about that as we trying to integrate some of this into our school improvement plans. And then Jenna uh and I are working really closely to have that October newsletter that goes out to all community members talk about this feedback. but the things that they said they'd like to learn more about to

112make sure that we start to push that type of information and all that is enlisted in the summary in your board materials. I think one question came up about um uh STEM and um about you know how how many groups was that included and I think it was uh mentioned by three groups and so it didn't get into the top ones but I believe that STEM at at the elementary will still be addressed um at during their school improvement. >> Yeah, most definitely. And that we've got a great STEM program at the elementary but it's three through five. And so I think some of the parents who probably had uh younger kids said that would be great if we could get it all the way down to kindergarten. So um we'll have to look how

113we might be able to do that. It may not look like the STEM program we actually have currently at the elementary, but um I think the areas of science in particular really excites students if we can have something hands-on that they learn from. >> Okay. The one I think uh one comment was need more extracurricular uh which included both art, chess and and STEM. So, it was kind of a part of that also. So, >> and so we've already started working with the park district. We met with them. Um, was that last week? >> Just last week. Uh, knowing that that might be a great opportunity for another partnership in terms of if we have the buildings available, you know, what might the partnership or the park district be able to do as an afterchool

114program, extracurricular curricular um, athletic at the elementary level. And so we're working with them to kind of come up with a list of things that even if they can't do it, we might be able to outsource to be able to send a survey out to parents and say, "We've been told you have an interest in some afterchool events. Here's some options. Help us narrow it down um and see if that's something the partners or the park district could do. See if it's something that maybe our teachers are willing to do. See if uh there's a third party company. But we're trying to just get some feedback as to what parents would like uh and what might currently already be available through the park district, but maybe they want to participate right at LI Elementary after

115school. So, we'll be sharing more of that information, too. >> That could also include the K through two enrichment which was mentioned. So, thank you. Thanks for looking. All right. Um brings us to um 9A which is our home and school organization did not meet. Uh the board representative reports ISB was 9B did not meet. Intergovernmental met this morning and I think that report is is that in your >> Yeah, it is. >> Okay. That's that was up uploaded. We just met at 8 this morning so it was >> uh hot off the press as they say. that for the ISB. >> Uh that's intergovernmental for intergovernmental is the report has been uploaded. >> Yeah, it's sitting there. >> Yeah. And 9D is uh LEN did not meet. Uh Lyall Education Foundation did not meet.

116Sassa did not meet. Sounds like it's summer. Um agenda topics for future board meetings is any back of the ISAB delegate. >> Oh, I'm so sorry, Dan. Yes. >> Yes. Go ahead. >> Pam have been working on our >> How could we forget? I can fit this working on the school board governance recognition application. So I think we're very close to uh uh submitting it uh in the next week. It's due August 1st. So we till end of next week, but I think we're we're pretty close. >> A lot of work. So thank you. We've uh >> I think we we are very it was a cenial agreement right there. The um agenda topics for future board meetings. Anybody have any? >> Okay, that brings us to item 11. >> Oh, real quick, Pam. Did

117we August, are they going to do We talked about athletics at the last meeting. Are they come We talked about that at a future meeting. Did we schedule that yet or >> I just want to make sure I got direction. I thought that some board members said they didn't need it, some said they did. Was it the majority of the board that said you wanted a presentation in August? >> I think we were going to send questions to Kate if we had any additional. That's where I remember from our minutes from the last meeting if we had any questions because we needed to know what questions we would be asking of him. >> Okay. So, we would need to send those to Keith. And is there still an option to have that? >> I I

118talked to Tom Markham right after the board meeting and he said, "Yeah, I'd love to showcase everything we're doing. I just need to know what they want to learn about. I don't want to put together this big presentation if they have some very focused areas of what they would like to learn." So, as soon as you can give me a list of things that, you know, you would like him to address, he'd be glad to come to a board meeting if it fits within the game schedule. But I'm sure it does. >> And one of those things I think Dan, you sent in maybe separately was on um options for band now that march for marching bands. So, >> didn't we get a response though to you about that? I thought we had some questions

119and then Tom answered them. So, >> yeah. Okay. >> You want to >> So, I don't have to do and I'll make sure he does it again. >> Okay. I but I guess to circle back on that does if anybody has any questions we should send them into you then instead >> and I will forward them to Tom. So okay um >> send me questions. Is there a particular month I should ask Tom to come and answer those questions? >> Is next month the I just we just looked at the schedule. Is it next month or September that is the elementary and junior high? That's going to be a long night. I'm just saying not that month. I mean, does he come with the high school anyway? Would that just make sense to pair the

120two? >> We could very much pair. I The feedback I thought the board gave us last time was you very much enjoyed having the elementary and junior high do it together. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> So, I envisioned that to be September and then the high school would be in October and then maybe that would be a component of the actual presentation and that would give you a little bit more time to have your questions. I'm sure he could answer any question you have, but that would allow him to be very focused in what you're looking for hearing more about. >> If I recall, I think the high school presentation had a couple slides on activities. >> Mhm. >> I probably did. I just don't remember him. >> He's watching this. It would be embarrassing, but

121I don't remember him physically being here, but maybe he was. >> Yeah. >> I Yeah, I was just I like the junior high and elementary um together. I just was saying it should be separate. That's just a long presentation. And I think putting anything else in that meeting is just it's just information overload. So >> So you think she's saying just like she didn't want Tom that night, right? >> Yeah. I don't want anything else on that night. That's a good combined presentation. Leave it just there. Don't add anything. >> All right. So what month do you want Tom and how soon can you give him the questions? >> It might make sense to have him with the high school >> in October >> school improvement plan. It would >> not You just said don't

122add to that. She was saying, "No, don't come on the junior high elementary night cuz that's really long and it doesn't really apply." >> Sorry, I misspoke. I meant in October when the high school is here that Tom could talk as part of that. So, thank you for the clarification. >> That would be great. October. That's That's a short answer. Okay. >> Right. >> All right. Um, see where now I've lost my place. Oh, no. There are there any other items for future agenda? Let me just check. Um, Mr. Naggler agrees with that. Uh, just okay. If not, then I will entertain a um motion to adjourn to close session for discussion of the appointment, performance, discipline, compensation, or dismissal of employees. May I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Second. We have a

123roll call, please. Miss Foster I >> Mr. Helderly >> I >> Miss Novascel >> I >> Miss Dmenico I think that's an I >> yes yes for yes for Miss D >> and Mr. Mgler. >> Uh he is also a yes. >> Okay. And Miss Sims is a yes. And Miss Alman. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. It is 9:08 and we will adjourn to close session. Thank you.