Mahomet-Seymour Board of Education March 24th 2025 at 7pm

001I know. It's it's it's uh that is so much fun. Yeah. And then come back. What's the still showing me. Uh, the regular meeting of the Mohamd Sigmore Board of Education is called to order. It is 7:02 p.m. Monday, March 24th. At this time, I'd like to remind everyone to please sign in and silence their cell phones. I'd also like to remind our visitors that in order to facilitate an effective meeting, we ask those who wish to make comments to the board, read the visitor guidelines, which are found on the table right outside the door, and complete the attached public participation form and take those over to Sarah. Public participation is only allowed during the public participation portions of the meeting other than those times. Board meetings are not interactive with those in agendas. Roll

002call, please. Bannister here. Gordon here. Ham here. Mcome Rock here. Severs here. McMurray here. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. We have some students to lead us in that. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Great job. Um, all right. Our building spotlight tonight is MP tutoring. So, Mr. Martin, are you going to lead us on? You guys stand in front of me. You guys don't have to talk. All right. Good evening board. Before I begin, I must give 100% credit to Mrs. Beecher for this amazing group of students in front of me as well as Mrs. Benedict. Um those two have come up with a solution to a problem we've

003been seeking for many years. Um and that is a peer tutoring program. Um we're starting small but we're starting strong and the these group of kids have done a phenomenal job. Um so basically the problems is we want full participation you know with our strategic plan we have all bulldogs entiti that well that we take that very seriously at Middletown Prairie for all Bulldogs to be successful and we run a reading incentive through the PTO where reading shapes are sent home and not all students participate in that but we really encourage for all students and sometimes that's just hard for families to do that at home. So, we came up with a solution of second graders helping out some of those younger students who might not have the opportunities at home to read and that's

004generated into more than just reading. It's turned into some math as well. Um, learning letters and numbers and some phonics. So, uh, with Mrs. Benedict and Mrs. Beecher's help, these students have really taken pride in that and taken it very seriously. Um, we are growing and we have had super u positive interactions with the younger kids and I think by the smiles on the faces you see here, they enjoy and take their job very seriously. Here are a few pictures of them in action with their students they work with. Um, and instead of us having them talk about what they're going to do, they are going to demonstrate. So, we are going to have them introduce themselves, but after they introduce, their job is to find a board member or Dr. Lee, and they're not

005going to tell us what they do. They're going to show us what they do. So, let's start over here and introduce ourselves. Tate, my name is Tate and I work at Mrs. Disc and Mrs. Pel's class. My name is Dylan and I work at Mr. Nash's class and Mrs. Pel's class. I'm Grace and I work at Mrs. Pagels, Mrs. Roloff's, and Mrs. Disc class. My name is Maverick and I work at Mrs. Mitchell's class and Mrs. Waits. My name is Jake and I work at Mrs. Fernandez and Mrs. Crumbley's. My name is Clay and I work at L Mrs. Lan and Mrs. Wade. My name is Jenny and I work at with Miss Paggel, Miss Roberts, Miss Wade, and Moff. My name is Calvin and I work with Mrs. Goth, Mrs. Crumbly, and Mrs. Mitchell.

006My name is Kenlay and I work with Mrs. Snow and Mrs. Goth. All right, we don't have time for a full tutoring lesson, but we're going to give you two minutes of action and then we'll bring them back and you can have a Q&A with the kids when they're done. So guys, go find a board member if you would like. If you if you're too nervous, you can stay with me. This is Mr. Link together. Okay. Mr. He's going to show me what you do. Maverick supposed to say that dad. Yeah. You know Mr. Lamb. Yeah. How they all What if that's what? Okay. Tell me if you do it for me. Like what? Okay. So you get to do it just how you did. So let's just say you want to try one. Okay.

007Okay. Okay. I want to count one and one. Okay. A little star. Okay. Sure. One, two, three. And how many are there? Is that right? No, it's not right. All right. Give me another pile. Sweet. while I stand in order. All right, let's do some numbers now. Is that right? Yeah, so you can practice. All right, second graders, go ahead and wrap up the one that you're on and make your way back up this your classmates. Thank you for showing me how this works. You're really good at this. Gosh, I don't even know. school. Yeah, that's temporary. Sometimes we have to be Yeah, that's what I said. I got it right. Yes. I got it right, too. Hey, this is the hard one. Be smarter than a do you know do you know the shape

008of this trapezo? Okay, I got it right. I guess diamond. She is doing an amazing job over there. Awesome. All right. So, this is a small taste of what the kids do every day. And you can see that it has grown beyond just reading. It's it's working with grouping of numbers and um shapes and colors and all things of the of skill levels that our students uh love helping the younger students here at Middletown. I think they're doing a great job being being leaders of the Bulldog Pack here. So, if you like to take some time to ask them the questions, I'm sure they would love to answer some. What's your favorite part of doing this? I asked you. You can answer if you want. Um the shapes. That was fun actually when we did

009it. That was my favorite part too. Challenging. Good. Me and my sister class. So you get to work with your sister then, too. Awesome. You don't get sick of her. You're at home and at school. That's awesome. Got to work with my kindergarten teacher. You did it? That's fun. What about you? Um, just teaching little kids. Do you think you might want to be teachers when they We still got time. Do you like doing math stuff more or like the letters and and sound stuff? Math. Math. Really? School. I like doing math more, but I like doing uh the like letters and stuff like the younger ones. Okay. Okay. Why do you think that is? Have you guys learned anything by doing this? Uh that sometimes they won't be ready to like talk because I've

010had ones that just do what I tell them. Do this and they won't like answer the questions that I give them. And then one day they will get used to something, but it might take a while. Yeah. Got to keep encouraging them. Awesome. I'll make you do it. We're really proud of you. Does anybody have any other questions? Yeah, you guys are doing an awesome thing. Keep up the good work. Okay. Yeah, you're doing great. Good job, you guys. Free to go. You guys don't need to stay for the meeting. Stay for the meeting. Thank you guys. We move. Okay. Uh item five is approval of the agenda. You've had a chance to review the agenda. Um, are there any questions or discussion? Okay. Is there a motion to approve the agenda as presented? So

011moved. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. This is a voice vote. Is there any discussion before we voice vote? Okay. All those in favor of approving the agenda say I. I. All those opposed. Okay. That passes. Um, consent agenda items include minutes for the February 18th uh, 2025 meeting, both open and close session, minutes for the March 3rd, 2025 special meeting, both open and close session, bills as presented, treasurer's report as presented, personnel changes as presented, overnight out of state trips, creation of an activity account at MSHS for girls flag football, and the 2025 2026 IHSA membership renewal. Um, is there a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented? Moved. Second. Second. Thank you. Is there any discussion on the consent agenda? Uh, just to all of you aware, I am going to

012abstain from voting on this because Henry is being paid in this consent agenda and I don't want to be for his work on Bulldog TV. So I don't want to any conflict. Okay, let's do a voice. Roll call vote. Sorry, Sarah. Jordan, yes. Lamb, yes. Mcome Rock, yes. Severs, yes. McMurray, yes. Banister, yes. Okay. And let's go to item seven, donations. Dr. Lee. Uh, yes, we have several donations. Um, again this month we have a donation from the Cox Property Group to our girls soccer activity fund. Um, we have a donation from an anonymous donor to the theater and drama activity fund in the amount of $1,000. The donation from the Cox Property Group was $1,200. Uh, Perry Patricia and Larry Ascu um donated to the theater and drama activity fund for $500. A Renee

013Taylor to the theater and drama activity fund for $1,000 as well as Candace McGregor to the theater and drama activity fund for $1,000. Um, drama boosters donated $1,000 to the theater activity fund for purchase of a piano. And our Mohamd Seymour Athletic Boosters had four different donations. Um, one to boys activity fund for purchase of starting blocks for a th00and, boys golf activity fund for reimbursement for $600. uh the baseball activity fund uh to offset a pitching machine purchase of $2,000 and softball activity fund to offset some safety screens in the amount of $2,355 for a total donations this month of $11,655. That's incredible. Um any discussion? Thank you. Amazing. Um the superintendent recommends the approval of the donations and present. Do I have a salute? Thank you. We have a second. Second. Thank you.

014Any further discussion? Okay. Roll call vote. Lamb. Yes. Rock. Yes. Evan, yes. McMurray, yes. Banister, yes. Jordan, yes. Okay. Item eight is communication. Uh, anybody from PTO here? MSEA. uh foundation. Justin, uh just a quick reminder, the Bulldog Bash is coming up on April 4th, so get your tickets now. Not going to want to miss this event with the band that's going to be there, and it's going to be a good time. Uh and we have two um public participation forms. Anybody else? Okay. Um the timer, Sarah? Yes, sir. Okay. I wasn't sure where you drove. All right, Sarah Ragnowski, she I was like, you were just here. Uh Sarah, come on up. And then you know how this works. Three minutes before starting away from Okay, cool. I can I can do that. Okay.

015Um, okay. Three minutes. Got it. Okay. Thank you. That's what I That's what I wanted to ask before. I didn't start one. Uh, good evening. My name is Sarah Raknowski. I was Champagne County's volunteer of the year last year. It was an honor to represent Champagne County and my hometown of Muhammad. As a public figure, we we are held to a higher standard and we are expected to make an impact like raising awareness and advocating for causes, engaging with the community, and inspiring action. Because we are the public's eye, our actions can be our downfall. At the beginning of this month, I found out a situation that had occurred and it made me question whether or not someone was the right fit. We we teach our students that drugs are bad, bullying is wrong, and

016that drinking and driving is unsafe. So, what do we do now? Do we say that this is okay for one time or do we put down and show everybody that this is not okay? that what we teach our students is what we should be upholding as a board in life. We learn that someone who has made mistakes and misjudgments that you still need to be respectful and I want to say that I have the utmost respect for everybody in the board member and that I forgive everybody for their mistakes. However, I feel like that certain members do not meet the criteria of what we want as a board. So, I would like to kind of suggest that we kind of come together and we just figure out what kind of where we go from here

017um resulting in what happened on March 3rd. And that is all I have to say. Thanks, sir. You're welcome. Uh, Mark Thompson. Good evening. Is that camera actually working? It is. Congratulations. We have made headway. I asked for a camera up here and sat at our back for three years. That took probably an hour. Thank you though. I appreciate it. I also on the way here I drove by Sangaman school and I remembered what a beautiful school that was that we gave away for $750,000 that would have fulfilled every need this school district had or has. It's infuriating. I know there's people working to get another referendum done. 150 $160 million. That's a lot. That's real money. I look at these schools and I look at all the space around them. It's tight, but there's

018space. I have a very good friend who's a retired professor of architecture at the U of I, and I speak to him often about this, and he flat says, "Any contractor architect would tell you it's far less expensive to renovate a building, as long as it's structurally sound, than it is to wipe one out and start over. So, I'm here to urge you in the name of Doge, Department of Government Efficiency. You guys fall into that efficiency. Not just say we can get the money out of the community and make them pay for it for the rest of their lives, but why not do it efficiently, which is additions at the schools you need them at? Take it easy on us taxpayers. It's it's so easy to do. It's a logical thing to do. It's

019the efficient, effective thing to do. Just like putting up that camera was easy. Anyway, I'm actually very happy to see the Department of Education being dismantled. We're ranked 40 in the country. We used to be ranked number one. That's what's happened since the Department of Education came to bear and influenced school with things like, well, you go way back, but about a minute mark. Recently, Common Core, CRT, this new sex ed crap in the classroom, this training crap, I mean, this wokeness, it's got to go. And that's kind of what you guys are here to do and make sure. So, we have this sea change happening throughout the country, not in Illinois because we have Pritsker, but he's sick. You know how much money he and his family are making off trans sex surgeries? They're

020heavily vested. Heavily vested in it. You've got a lot to deal with. I know that. Just bear in mind the world does not like what's happening. This country does not like what's happening when it comes to being ranked 40th for a reason. Maybe you guys ought to be forward thinking and say, you know what, we know this is wrong and therefore not do certain things like spend 150 $160 million on schools you don't need. All right. Next item is uh boards. You may want to start going forward. I don't have anything to report. Yeah, I mean I thing I have is this is we're in the home stretch but this I I you see the light don't want to go to school. Make them go to school and you too. It's hard. Um but we

021can do this. So and I hope everybody had a really good spring break and was relaxed, rejuvenated, motivated to to finish strong. Well said. I I echo your sentiments. Uh I do want to address a couple things that we just heard. Um Sarah, I'm not sure she left. She left. Okay. It almost sounded like she was referring to a drinking and driving incident and that was not the situation. So not really sure what that is about. And Mark, I don't know where you're getting information that we're running a $150 million referendum. There's 112 and then four years down the road had add another 40 plus million that's no plans for running a referendum. There is no referendum running. There are no there are no plans for a referendum. I I am telling you directly from

022wonderful that that's really wonderful. There there are no plans for a referendum. So if you hear that information, you are welcome to reach out to me and ask, but that's just not true information. Wonderful news. Um, I also want to congratulate our archery team. Um, fantastic job. And, um, I also want to just say a big thank you to I reached out to our building administrators this morning. The building reports that we get in our board packet are phenomenal. Like, it is so helpful for us as a board to know what our strategic plan is and what our in our strategic plan and then to turn around and see in writing what's happening in the buildings every month. that's getting us toward that strategic plan. Just it makes my heart happy like watching all these

023cool things that are happening and the data that shows like our attendance is in a great spot right now and kids are doing well with like reading shapes at Middletown. Like just things that are happening in our building. So thank you to our administrative teams who are doing those reports. They're they're awesome and they are read and they are appreciated because I know they take time. So thank you for that. All right. Next, Heather. Is Heather here? You are back there, Heather. All right. Your financial report was in your back packet. Any questions for Heather? Hang out in the corner back there. Yeah. All right. Um, Christine's report. I uh, next item is Christine's report. That was also in your packet. Christine, do you have anything you want to highlight? Not. Sunny, I did have

024one question for Heather. Oh, sorry. There are there any updates on potential investment opportunities? I feel like it's been maybe a month and a half since we last talked about it. Yeah. And cash on hand is still pretty good, which is great. But yes, um I still talk to people. Right now, I can't find anything above what we currently have. So, I could continue to look into that. I have a couple notes to call back some people within a, you know, a short time frame. So, okay. Thank you. Any questions for Christine? Okay. Um, next item is Dr. Bag's report. Anybody? Do you want to highlight anything? Anybody have questions for highlighting just the upcoming testing season? Love it. and Dr. Lee. Uh, yes. I bit put off that you didn't mention how much you

025enjoy reading my report about six policies that I covered in my my monthly report. Just a reminder that the uh statement of economic interest is due on May 1st. So, um, if you guys need help, um, getting that in, um, just email it to Sarah or I can swing by, uh, your place of business or residence and pick it up and we'll get those turned in for you. Whatever's easiest for you. Any questions for Dr. Lee? Pictures would help, but you can include cute kids in your I'll work. Um, all right. Item 10, regular business. We have some unfinished business around employee contracts. Uh, Dr. Uh yes. Um as we discussed at um our March 3rd already meeting um is that it is that time of year again um so we do want to renew

026uh administrative and non-bargaining unit member contracts. So, these are all spelled out for you uh with the the numbers in there um that and then also if they're one year, if they're three-year um and then all of our non-certified um employees as well that are on here. So, you can see as you go through, we've got our one-year administrators and then we've got our three-year administrators uh contracts who are are up for uh reapproval. Um, and then under the non-certified, you can see that we have our technology department, um, our director of of building and grounds, our director of grounds, human resources, payroll, administrative assistants here in the the district office. And then we do have our our district licensed physical therapist, um, occupational therapist, and our therapy assistants as well. Any questions on these?

027Say no. I'll be abstaining. Thank you. All right. Um, Dr. Lee, the superintendent recommends the board of education approve the attached administrative and non-bargaining unit district contracts as presented. Do I have a motion? So moved. Thank you. I have a second. Second. Thank you. Um, any further discussion? Please. Rock, yes. Sevens, yes. McMurray, yes. Yes. Gordon, yes. Lamb, I abstain. All right. Item two, consideration and possible approval of fiscal year 26 administrative employee salaries. Uh, yes. So, we do have um four administrators who are in the middle of a three-year contract. So, they are not up for renewal. Uh, but we are recommending uh salary increases for them uh for next school year for their contract that we'll review that um at every year. So, um for Dr. Bagby, Mr. Pat Bailey, Miss Megan Hunter,

028and Mr. Ryan Martin were recommending uh the salaries as presented. You have any questions on the salaries? Okay. All right. Um, superintendent recommends the board of education approve 26 administrative employee salaries as presented. Do I have a motion? Moved. Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. Any further discussion? Okay, let's do a roll call, please. Yes. Yes. Jordan, yes. Lamb, yes. Yes. Okay. The next item is for um approval of contract with the superintendent. We had discussed last time about um adjusting the length of the contract to make it a five-year term. and then in turn then adjusting the evaluation timeline as well. Um so our board attorney has taken a look at that and made those adjustments for us. Um any questions or concerns or comments or discussion? May I make a quick

029comment? I guess. Um, so the the only changes from the last contract that we approved in the the spring of 23 would be the the years under term from July 1st, 2025 and ending um July 30th, 2030. Um, the salary increase that you guys provided with me. And then also, if you'll turn to page three of the contract under evaluation, this now allows us the flexibility to begin talking about goals for next year um, this spring. and then the evaluation just needs to be completed no later than June 30th. Now, Adam, as you know, is your attorney and not mine. So, you'll see at the bottom of this um you can see that in order to protect you, however, in the final year of this contract, the board shall conduct uh an evaluation of the

030superintendent's achievement no later than than February 1st. And then it also continues with the board may terminate or non-renew this contract even if the evaluation requirements of this contract have not been satisfied. So then um that offers you up a little bit um more teeth with this evaluation piece but gives us the flexibility to make sure that that it's aligning with our strategic goals um as well moving forward. I I was just going to note that um you know if you're in attendance or you're watching at home and it seems like we're moving through this pretty quickly like we did have pretty lengthy discussion about whether this is the second time we're looking at we've spent many many uh our meeting last time went to our me last meeting went to uh also um Dr.

031's uh evaluation went really in depth with that um and talks amongst ourselves. So like it's not just off the cuff that we're extending his contract and bumping it on his pay. So thank you. Um with Let me finish. Oh, I'm sorry. It hit me like we're lucky to be able to have you for another five years. So yes, an additional feel very thankful to work with you and and to be here. So I appreciate the sentiment. Thank you. I'm done. Any other discussion? Okay. With that being said, um the board president recommends the board of education approved the five-year contract with Kenneth Lee to serve as superintendent of Muhammad Seymour CUSD number three as presented. Do I have a motion? Moved. Oh, I heard Jeff first. I'll second Jeff. Um, and then any further

032discussion? Okay, let's do a roll call vote. McMurray, yes. Banister, yes. Jordan, yes. Lamb, yes. Rock, yes. Sus, yes. Okay. Item four, strategic plan update. Yes. So we'll as as we provide you with the living the strategic plan the actual document um as part of my evaluation actually we just we discuss maybe having a a monthly just snippet as well um and then that way you aren't quite taking the drink from the fire hose you know a couple times a year. So, um, just a couple of updates with regard to academics and achievement communication and then our our facilities piece of that and and as you know when I provide updates on safety here in a month or two, we'll do that in in close session dealing with with student safety if it's deems appropriate.

033So, with regard to academics and achievement, um I'd just like to start off by saying that um in a few moments um the members of our our vertical literacy team will be presenting a new literacy curriculum for your consideration. And uh I'm not going to steal any of of Dr. Bagby and and the team's thunder uh with regard to all of the work um that has gone into this, whether it be long time ago or the presentation. But um on behalf of our district and our students, I just wanted to from from the bottom of my heart, thank you for all the time that went into this and u certainly appreciate all the efforts and um you know, I see you guys coming in and out of here. Um and I hear you and and

034uh um and then was had the opportunity to attend the the uh the reveal party, which is a little bit out of my comfort zone, but certainly appreciated the invitation. So just on behalf of of all of us um thank all of you so much. Um also we uh have the star benchmark assessment pilot program. Uh we've got teachers, interventionists, school psychologists and administrators been piloting a potential new benchmark assessment to see if it better meets our needs in comparison to our fast bridge assessment. So those are a couple of the main things going through our our goal one right now. With regard to goal two, communication, we've been working handinhand with our tech department um as well as as our principles and our central office administration to explore more efficient and effective ways to

035communicate with our stakeholders. Uh we've received demonstration of products to replace our Skyler uh which is how you guys receive the the mass emails from me. Besides being more efficient and effective, moving to a different product will allow us to assist in being compliant with a portion of our our multil- language learner audit, which we're very excited about as well. And uh we've been working throughout the the bidding process after the recent issue of our health life safety bonds and the approval of the tax levy. Uh we're excited to be in the process of of our HLS work and uh secured entry project project and our playground improvements this summer and most of them uh have them complete by the beginning of the 2526 school year and several of those items are up for approval

036um a little bit later in the agenda. So, we've got some some playground improvements uh that have been paid for uh mainly by outside sources uh other than than district dollars. And then our secured entrance bids came in um to say lower than what we expected was was awesome. Um so, Mr. Mills and Miss Smith and I were very excited to to see that um right before spring break when we left. So, um continuing to move through through those things. We'll have a monthly update uh from now on as on top of the living the strategic plan. Any questions on that? Uh, no question, just comment. Um, you know, we set out to be more transparent as a board and putting that document together and having these updates, I think says a lot to our

037community. It helps us know what's going on, but it helps our community also know like here's our goals, here's our steps, here's the action plans. I just think like as a board that is our goal to be transparent and I think it's a great idea to add that every month. So, thank you. Thank you. You bet. Appreciate small bites. I've heard that before. High level small bites. Any other questions? Kevin. All right. Fantastic. Now we get to another part of the meeting. Not that it hasn't been great. It's been great. Um Dr. Bagby. Hi. we talk about favorite days of the year for board meetings. This is one of my favorite ones tonight. Thank you, Dr. Lee, for the kind words um on behalf of the entire vertical team. That's very much appreciated. So, all

038right. So, we are excited to share with you tonight um what we've been working on for what the past year and a half. Um so, this is this has been not the share button, present button. Here we go. Um so, I'm excited tonight to be able to share with you along with our elementary literacy vertical team and we will Yep. trying to find the right button. Thank you, Mrs. McMurray. All right. Um, so the objectives for tonight, so what you're going to kind of hear, um, and we're going to work through is learning a little bit about the journey that our elementary literacy vertical team has been on, um, and the impact of teacher voice throughout this this journey. Um, some different highlights of different research, evidence, and data that we utilize throughout the process.

039Just a snapshot. Um, provide some rationale for the recommendation that we're bringing forward to you for consideration tonight for new curricular materials. um and then share some information on those recommended materials. Okay. All right. So, it's been a journey. So, let's talk about this journey. Um so, some guiding principles that we use throughout um our journey here. Um as we just heard about alignment to the Mohamd Seymour strategic plan. Um that was that that is still and will be an ongoing action item um throughout um this process. Um what's best for all Bulldogs. Um that was seen and you can see it on some of the strategic plan items throughout this room. Um that is definitely some language um that was used within the strategic plan. Uh making sure that we brought something forth um

040that was research and evidence-based um that was inclusive of teacher voice and team consensus um grounded in the science of reading. You'll learn a little bit more about that this evening from Miss Jill Logger. Um supported by ongoing professional learning as well. So this group went through a ton of professional learning. We'll kind of get to that in a little bit. Um so here's the alignment to the Mohamd Seymour strategic plan. um just to kind of outline you really what we're highlighting for you tonight um is action step 1.4 and 1.5 um and the measures of success. So the vertical team was identified they're here this is a portion of them um and you'll see some of these other action items um that we we delivered on throughout this process. Okay. Um so the journey

041so to just kind of give you a little bit of a road map. So we identified the team last year um sometime what February Marchish we identified the the vertical team and they began working um towards the end of last school year um over the summer um an amazing amount of time this year especially lately um it's been a lot of work and they have been here as Dr. ly after school hours putting in so so much time. I'm incredibly grateful. Um we did quite a few a lot of needs analysis, needs assessment, looking at our current data, where we're at, looking at some research, just kind of figuring out like what do we want to see in our new literacy curriculum. We did a lot of different um activities to kind of go through

042that um background. We spent six days, full days in this room together. Um there's about 40 of us on this team. Um and we spent six full days. Um you approved um last year what was called a core literacy training. Um that really went into each day went into a different component of um the the structure of literacy um and the progression of of what it takes. So starting out from our our prek learners and different uh things that they need to know about like how to hold a book and different pictures and how to turn pages all the way up to, you know, comprehension strategies and things like that and everything in between. Um then we did a lot of reflections. We'll go through some of those activities we did with them. Um some

043digesting of what we learned um and what we wanted to see in our curriculum here in the district. Um and we created a vision. We'll go through that in a little bit too. Uh based on this vision for what we would like um elementary literacy to look like in this district, we created different two different rubrics that we use to evaluate um the curriculums against. They did all this. It's a lot. Um we met with different curriculum companies and reviewed different curriculums kind of in the background um that met um the the vision um that the team had set forth for us. Um and then we had to narrow it down. Um and we narrowed it down twice. Um and eventually we got to two two curriculums. Um once we got to those two curriculums,

044we did two different site visits so we could see these curriculums in action. So we went to Dunlap School District, spent a whole day there. um got to see um the curriculum in each of the different classrooms, got to spend time asking questions, all those sorts of things. Um and then we did the same thing for the Washington School District number 52. Um so again, those are two more days that this team spent out of the classroom preparing sub plans, doing all those sorts of things. Um so incredibly grateful for the time. Also incredibly grateful to these two school districts and their staff to put together these days for us and to allow us into their schools is not something they had to do. Um, and so we are incredibly grateful for them and their

045staff and the time that they gave us uh for us to learn from their experiences, their pain points, their positive points, all of that. Um, there wasn't a question they weren't willing to answer for us. So, it was incredibly You might hear about that a little bit more in a little bit. Um, and then we did some fi some final reflections, a final rubric um to kind of get to where we are today. Um, and then we did a little magical reveal which you'll get to see in a little bit. So that's been our journey. Told you it was a journey. So here we go. Um so we're going to hear a bit from our teachers here um that served on the the team. And these are just some co components. Um teacher voice matters.

046Um and that is my that was probably the number one um underpinning of this whole process. Um process matter. So you just heard about the whole journey and process we went through. Um and having our teachers along the way with us. They are going to have to be the ones teaching this with kids in the classroom every day. I'm not I'm not going to have to be doing that. They're going to have to be doing that. Um and so to have something that they feel meets our needs built around our vision that we worked as a team to create that matters. Um and so there's just some different components up here um that we heard throughout the process or that that were very very important. Okay. All right. Right. So, without further ado, I'm going

047to turn it over to our K2 friends who are going to come on up and they're going to share a little bit about their journey through this process. I think I think the previous one, right? Oh, you're on this one. You're good. Oh, okay. Let's just You got this, girl. Say our things and then we'll highlight one. Well, first of all, I'm Amy Snow and I am a first grade teacher. And I'm Emily McIll and I'm a second grade teacher. Okay. This whole process for us we have felt has been so empowering and it has really motivate motivated us to find the best curriculum for our students. Um so we were all given in the beginning the Illinois literacy plan which is a new plan and then we began a very deep dive into data.

048Um, and that was very eye opening. Um, and all the data basically just highlighted for us that we have a big need for a very explicit evidence-based instruction. So, we began our core training. Um, and then that focused on the seven components of literacy. Um, and anyways, all of this work has led us to making an educated decision as a whole team, which Emily's going to talk a little more about us as a team. Yes. And um, as Amy and I were preparing the wrong side, we were joking um about how this public speaking gig is like not at the top of our favorite things. And um we we got got I think no but um but passion so far right yeah um but I was thinking about I was like you know when Dr.

049Bagby was like you know if there's just a few of you that might want to speak about your experience and I was like oh maybe I will and then I was like why did I do that and and the word was passion and I've got to tell you this woman Dr. Ragby. She ignited so much passion in our team. Um she was incredible. Um so we have a lot of passion and we're here to talk about the group that we were a part of. Um it was really special that um our admin valued our time spent with colleagues um not just our grade levels but um vertically. So, we were prek through sixth grade and our admin intentionally placed us um together with different colleagues of different backgrounds and um so we'd arrive and we'd

050never know where we were going to sit. Um and then when there's too much side chatter, you know, they'd never put us again. We noticed that. Um but we had so much fun and so we just wanted to say thank you for the process um for the team um so that we could be cheerleaders here for um for CKLA and we um just really appreciate your time and your consideration. Thank you. Amazing. Hi. All right. From Lincoln Trail, come on up. Miss Rouso, Miss Dodge. I'm going to make me go first. So, it's these points where I realize that talking in front of 25 10 year olds and 11 year olds is super easy and talking in front of the equal amount of adults is terrifying. Um, but here we are. Um, I wanted to

051speak to I know Dr. Bagby already brought it up and Amy brought up the core part of the training. I have been a 15-year educator. Um, but all of my years have been spent in fourth and fifth grade, mostly fifth. So, I had a very narrow view. Um, in coming into this process, I was like, "Yes, I know exactly what I'm looking for in a curriculum. I know what's important to me, um, and what's important to my team of fifth grade teachers." Um, but going through the core training, those extra six days that we had gave me a much broader view, um, from prek all the way up to talking to some of my sixth grade colleagues, what is going to be best to prepare them for the next level as well. Um, and I

052was so thankful to hear from about Orisy. didn't know what it was. Didn't really know what it meant other than probably reading about it 20 years ago in college or not. I don't know. Um but that just gave me a lot of confidence when we got down to our two final um curriculums to look through. Um what I was looking for, what we were looking for, and as a team was going to make the most sense from the youngest people in our district all the way up through our fifth and sixth graders. So, I feel really confident in where we are. Um, and the process that we use to get from point A to what feels like point Z. Um, and so I hope you guys feel the same as you look at what we've

053got and see that it is a great opportunity to get everybody involved. And we know that this investment in this team is not only time, but it's also money. And so, we appreciate the permission to be part of this process throughout. And we know that a lot of districts do not do that. that they'll hand you the curriculum and say figure it out and then the roll out is dysfunctional. And I think this committee has embolded this room of 40 teachers to go in as literacy leaders within our grade level. We know we have horizontal alignment. We look at the perspective of like, hey, everyone at my grade level is probably be okay with that, but that of vertical alignment is so key, especially for our atypical learners that need that repetition. So seeing that

054things that are being done in kindergarten will spiral up to the upper grade levels is going to be important for our kids that do struggle to be able to have grade level conversations and to make that learning accessible to them. It was amazing to go to site visits. I could not point out who was in there to be supported even though the staff was present. And that makes me very excited for the future that hopefully the CKLA will roll will out in our classrooms that we will be able to have students that have that level of participation in our classrooms. And it's so hopeful especially with everyone in this room making sure that we're all doing our part to have consistent horizontal alignment so each year it continues to build and that it's going to

055be even more exciting to see that investment was worthwhile in a few years. And I'm very confident that our test data, whether it's STAR or whether it's FastBridge, is going to be reflective of that. So, we really appreciate that even though you you might not see in the classrooms like we will straight away. So, thank you very much. You guys got me a little emotional there just as much. Um, all right. So, I want to at this point just say thank you. This is everyone who served on the vertical team. Um, you will see representation from our youngest learners, pre-K, kindergarten, first, second, third, fourth, fifth, um, sixth grade, of who we are sending our students to. They wanted to learn. They're the ones that asked. I didn't even ask them. They're like, "Can we

056be a part of it?" They wanted to, which I think is great. We had building um, administrators, our special education teachers, our interventionists, um, multilingual teachers, instructional coaches. So, um, this this group, I don't even know how many hours they put in, um, outside of the school day investing in our kids and our our future for our literacy curriculum. So, thank you to all of you. Uh, point out an error on your slide, and the reason why it's not up there is because the person who made the slide left it out. Um, but several people have already alluded to it this evening. Um, and we should thank you. You need to thank yourself. Um um but I've been I've been a part of a lot of curriculum adoptions in 20 years in education and it

057is so easy to lose sight of that vision. Um, and so for the person that was really like helping keeping everything going, we never lost sight. I felt like, and I hope I'm not speaking for the entire team, but but I am, I guess, because I'm standing here. Um, I felt like we never lost that teacher voice. We never lost sight of that vision that you guys were crucial in developing. Um, and that and that's so easy to do, right? Um but it really I mean just the investment that you guys allowed us to put in the core literacy team the the people up here of doing that so that whatever it was very clear when those curriculum companies came in and we kind of have our had our must-have list um whether or not

058they aligned and whether they met up with it which made that decision. It's never an easy decision but it made it a lot clearer and made it a lot easier knowing that we had put the time and the investment into that vision. So I'm I'm sure it was it was a lot it was a lot on you. was a lot on all of you. So, thank you for all the work that you've done. But, um I would be remiss if I if I didn't point out Dr. Bagby's leadership. Carry on. Let's carry on. All right. So, um to highlight, I have a couple other friends up here with us this evening who I could not have done this without. Um and one of them is the one who just surprised me. Um but um I'm

059going to have Miss Jill Logger. She's going to be coming up first. She's going to talk to you a lot about the research um and some of the evidence involved um throughout this process. Um and then I'm going to have Miss Hunter. She's going to work us through some of our data um has been instrumental in leading that as you see like through the building reports and everything she does at Lincoln Trail. Um and then Caitlyn is going to give us the reveal um at the end. And so these three ladies have been um right along this journey right alongside me. and I could not have done it without them. So, I'm going to turn it over to Miss Jill Logger. And a huge I I think we missed someone too. Sarah like the whole

060time we had all of those long meetings set up the room for us, helped us set up helped us with everything. Thank you Sarah for behind the scenes. All right. Um, so we're I'm going to talk here to talk about what the science of reading is. But before I start, um, I want to like clear up some misconceptions in case you in the media or have heard of it before. Um, it's kind of a a buzzword type of thing. It's not a buzz word, but it's um, been going around. I'm sure that you might have um, heard of it before. So, one thing it is not um, it is not a fad. It's not a new trend. Um, in education, we talk about the pendulum swing. Oh, we're doing this and then 10 years later,

061oh, there it is again. But we have to change everything. It's not that um it's not a single specific component of instruction. It's not just phonics. It's not just comprehension. Um it's not a program or intervention that you can buy. Um programs do are based in the science of reading, but you cannot buy just the science of reading. It's not a company. Um and it's not complete. Um just as in any science, there's technology coming out and um so more study needs to be done. Is this the computer? Yep. Um so what is the science of reading? Um it is important at every grade level. We have vertically aligned. We had uh prek through sixth grade and we found out that it is very important um at every grade level. Um it's a collection of

062research that has been done over decades before I was born. Um some of the research um that is culminated in evidence on how to um develop proficient readers and writers um it helps us to understand why some readers have difficulty and how some writer why some writers have difficulty and how we can most effectively assess um and improve those student outcomes. So overall it's answers the question of how kids best learn to read. Um our brains are not wired to read. Um it's one of the things that the research came out and so we have to be explicitly taught to read so our brains can be rewired. So that's another big part of the science of reading. Um it's based in the big five ideas awareness, phonics, fluency, vocabulary and comprehension. And it's ever evolving.

063All right. So if you were to like Google the science of reading, you might like and just hit images, two of these things might pop up. One is the simple view of reading and one is scar's reading rope which are just two different ways to to look at the um how we get to a skilled reader from prek to fifth grade. Um, so there's two main components, word recognition and language comprehension. And I used to teach fourth grade for the last 11 years and now I'm an instructional coach. And one of the things when over the summer I got my certificate in the science of reading that was like aha moment for me was like the multiplication. I know we're in reading, but there's a little like math equation at the top. So um, a

064skilled reader needs both word recognition and language comprehension to be able to understand what they're reading. So, for example, if I um I'm a pretty skilled reader. I think I'm pretty fluent. I can decode words. Um but if you gave me a text on like general surgery, I have not much background knowledge on that. So, my langu my language comprehension is probably like if I was probably like a tenth or something. So, 0.1. So, I have I have one time 0.1, I'm not going to be able to understand what I'm reading, right? it's my um reading comprehension is going to equal a one/10enth. So um that is kind of like aha for me when we give kids books. Um if they understand if they have great background knowledge on something but they can't decode, they're

065not going to be able to read. Um so both of those that's the simple view of reading. And if you look at Scaro's reading rope, you have the um language comprehension work at word recognition. And whenever kids kids are skilled in all of those, all of those ropes will weave to become a skilled reader, which is our goal for all of our students. So that is a little bit about the science of reading. Just a little bit. Yeah. So why now, right? Why why are we hearing about this now? Um, and I'm I'm not going to read all of those statistics to you because you've likely already uh read them in the in the board packet, but just to kind of highlight a couple of things is it's not just us. I guess we're seeing

066this across the the nation. It's why Illinois has adopted an Illinois literacy plan. They saw that there was a need there to address areas of literacy. So um NAPE which is the national assessment of educational process put or progress I'm sorry put together um different statistics um so we actually had some fourth graders that were selected in 2022 to participate in the NATE so we are included in that data from 2022 so more than a third of students were described as below basic in reading and only 33% of fourth graders are at or above proficient which they would fall in that and I'll show you another slide momentarily that would fall in that did not or partially met on AR. So that means they didn't pass is kind of how we we look at those

067levels. Um most recently in 2024, no state seen reading gains in our fourth graders or our eighth graders as compared to 2022. So, while I normally love data, I don't know that I love this data, but it's also one that we can we can't turn a blind eye to and we can't um just push it to the side and say we can't ignore the problem, I guess, is is what I'm trying to say. The other the other part of why we bring this to your attention is that we're not just making change for the sake of making change. I actually hate when um sometimes that occurs in education. It's like, oh, let's just change some stuff. Well, but why? Um clearly here's here's a need for why and we see that reflected in our our

068own data as well. So this shows the percentage of students that are achieving performance based on IR which is the Illinois assessment of readiness which we're getting ready to give starting next week. And so that shows you um just looking horizontally that's the did not meet partially met approaching met exceeded. So those that would quote unquote pass the IR would be those that are met or exceeded. Those that did not pass would fall in that approaching partially met or did not meet. Um so green is good. Um yellow, orange, red not so much. And so you can see how our third graders measure against the state, how our fourth graders measure against the state, fifth graders, and so on down towards our towards our eighth graders. So, um, we increase our pass rate as our

069students get older. Um, but we're recognizing that we start off slow in terms of our pass rate with third grade because we're seeing some definite issues in our tier one curriculum. So, you've probably noticed in our school improvement plans that both Mr. Martin and I have those goals of 80% or more of students being above the 20th percentile. That's kind of our tier one check is if we have 80% of our students that are above the 20th percentile that 80% of our kids responding to that tier one curriculum. That's a good sign. We've noticed over the years that we don't have that. And so that's that's not a reflection of our teaching staff. That's not a reflection of our kids. That's a reflection of our curriculum not meeting the needs of our kids and no

070longer allowing them to have um those those core five pieces that we spent many days learning about. I think it was definitely an aha moment for me too to recognize just how short the you know former curriculum that shall not be named um did not measure up to that and did not meet those things. I think since we've gone back to our classrooms and and continued with that curriculum since that's what we've had has just kind of highlighted some of those deficit areas within that curriculum. So, I think we're excited to see what this next step will be and that this won't always be what our case is. I think it's not the best reflection of our kids and certainly not the reflection of the effort and the dedication that our teachers put into our

071students. So, I'm excited to see where um once we have that fully comprehensive literacy curriculum starting in kindergarten, how that reflects in our third, fourth, fifth, through eighth graders. So, okay. This you the reveal. We're getting there. Well, we've been on this journey for a year and a half and what started as maybe a daunting first meeting between the two of us. So, what is this going to look like? Has turned into a neon glow party with cheers. So, I say we've made it. Um, we have been all over the map. Um, everything we did, we kind of highlighted some of the great things we've done on here, but it's all been very intentional to try to get us to this point. We've learned a lot. We've accomplished a lot. We've grown together. Had a

072lot of coming together moments. Um, we just made sure that everything we did had a purpose. So you can kind of see some of those things up here. Every time we did an activity, we tried to do a reflection piece to it to try and help us track kind of where our thinking was at at that moment, where it was going, where we've come from. Um, some of our favorites we threw up here. We did this question deep dive where we really dove into some of that data that Mrs. Hunter just talked about and we even had bulldog emojis. There was some crying bulldogs. There were some happy bulldogs, some um not to mention what they were thinking Bulldogs. So, there's just been a lot of great moments where we've got to come together and

073we've got to see, okay, we've got room to grow, but we've also done a lot of great things. How can we take those great things we've done and make them even better? Um, one of the great things we did is we dove into the Illinois literacy plan and we took some time to learn about each of the seven components and we then taught each other about those seven components and we became experts in those areas. Um, during the core training, every time we did one of those, we did a compass activity and that's where we really talked about, okay, let's take what we've learned, let's talk about our next steps, let's talk about where they're where we're at currently, let's talk about what we're worried about, let's talk about what we're excited about. Um, and

074then probably my personal favorite is we had this poster over here quite a few times and it was I used to think but now I think. And it's a simple activity but it's a spot for you to track your thinking of okay this is where I was at right as a former hardly or very trained guided reading teacher. Right? This is where I'm at. I'm not there anymore. Here's where I'm at currently. So it was really cool. Thank you Sarah for tracking all of our ideas. She took all of our chicken scratch post-it notes and turned them into beautiful documents that then we were able to turn into this beautiful vision. So, we took all of our ideas, we tracked them all. Um, and then we looked at kind of themes that we saw and

075we used that to create a vision of what we would love in a perfect world literacy to look like at Mohamd Seymour. And this is a labor of love. Um, this is our third final draft. We went through two drafts. the team edited them. They gave lots of grammar police um comments as teachers do. Um and it's turned into this beautiful document that then we used to really judge all of the curriculums that we saw. We use this um vision and we turn it into rubrics to take these curriculums and really dive in and figure out, okay, if this is what we want literacy to look like at Muhammad Seymour, how does this curriculum that we have measure up to that? Um, and so then all of that led us to, and I should say

076you have those visions in your packets, um, if you want to look at them. Our teachers have them. We're planning to give them to all the teachers outside of our literacy team and those will be displayed in classrooms. But all that led to this very moment. 6 5 4 3 2 1 [Laughter] [Music] Yeah, bag asked me, but I couldn't fit. You can't see it, but Dr. Lee is up front and center. So, this was in true teacher fashion, we had to throw a neon party to celebrate um all the moments that led to this. Um thank you, Jill Logger, for all your neon supplies. Uh, but it was it was such a successful moment of cheers and happiness and just that moment I think all of us were tearing up in the room of

077we made it. We're excited about it. Um, and everybody really seems on board with it. So, turn it over to Dr. Backne. So, CKLA um that is our curriculum that we are recommended recommending. So, we're going to go a little bit into it and how it aligns with everything you you kind of just heard this evening. So you saw scarbor's rope earlier here. Um here is kind of how that fits in those language comprehension pieces. That is where we're recommending for K5 uh amplify CKLA. Um how we are going to address the word recognition pieces. Um you've heard about this, you've seen videos on it, you've seen um some different things about it. You fly um that is going to be how we address the word recognition piece. So we've been piloting that. Our teachers

078have been trying it out. Um, and we have seen some great success at the K2 level with that. Um, and so we could have adopted what's called the skills portion of Amplify, but instead, um, all the work and time and investment our teachers have done with that, we would like to continue with UFI for that. Okay. So, that's kind of how it all fits together. Um, so kindergarten through second grade, again, we would have the knowledge portion of what's amplify CKLA. You have someformational items um in in your um packets and things like that. um these links here in the board packet, the curriculum maps, anyone in the community, you guys um can review the curriculum maps for K1, two, I'm not going to go through them all. They are pages and pages, but anyone

079with the standard alignment and everything um completely transparent. Anyone is welcome to review them. Um and if they have any questions, they can feel free to reach out to me. Uh third through fifth grade, um as we get into our older grade levels, um we would be getting the entire package with Amplify. um they do not break it out into like a knowledge and a skills strand. It's all integrated um is what they call it at that point. And again, the third grade, fourth grade, and fifth grade curriculum maps are also linked there. Um so making connections, I see some of you are going through the choice units um overview document. Um so we did our reveal and then we got right back to work. Um literally they had to choose um and do some

080homework and research into what some of the choice units they wanted to do. So they dove into um the standards with it, some of the different themes, how it connected with the different grade levels. Um third grade we spent an overnight um they they read one of the books up there. We all kind of talked about it, got some feedback, decided to go with one versus the other. Um so we had some choice in that. Um and they put a lot of time and energy into that. So this just shows you kind of the alignment of language arts, science, social studies, kind of how those are interwoven. Um and you can see the connections in the different modules or themes. um through each of the units at each of the grades. Okay, change outcomes. Not

081going to read all this to you. Um there's a lot of research that is a a QR code where you can go to more and more research studies um for CKLA. Um but this I just wanted to highlight some of the research behind this. Um the biggest thing especially with Amplify CLA is the amount of background knowledge. You heard about background knowledge from our teachers. The amount of background knowledge and vocabulary development and content knowledge. um is is very rich in that that is something that came through in the vision um that our teachers wanted. We also did a lot of reading and research on integration with science and social studies um and how that matters um and so those are some of the strong data points that you will really see there. Um if

082you want to dive in further or want to talk about it more happy to do so at any time. Um so what is CKLA? This is a quick threeminute video. Um for the sake of time I'm not going to show it to this evening. If you want to watch it on your own at some point it's just some of the changes. this is one of the key authors and things like that. Um and she kind of goes through like some of the changes they've made through some of the additions and really um what they are going to be introing for the third edition. We would be adopting the third edition. It's not out for print yet or anything like that, but it would be their latest edition. Okay. Um so just some background like I

083kind of mentioned um integrated writing, science, and social studies. Those were some major themes um that came through as we kind of wrap this up. Making sure it's evidence and researchbased. it hits that. Um the research that we did looking at multiple sources to try and find um what are some um reading curriculums that have met the standard and either other districts, other states um that different um research organizations like what works clearing house, ed reports, the reading league um have endorsed um and doing a lot of different research on those. Some states mandate certain curriculums or tell you these are the only curriculums you can can utilize. Illinois is not one of those states. That is a local decision um every single time. Um that is not the case in all states, right? Um

084as I mentioned before, there's some adjustments from the second to third edition. I'll be honest with you, if you Google some things, you'll find some controversial things out there. You will. um they have done a lot of work to make some adjustments between the first edition, second edition, third edition in a fairly short amount of time for curriculum companies. Um we also did um quite a few calls and did some pushing. Um, we got to talk with the VP of um, communications who's handled um, all of their curriculum concerns, anything, so that she could tell me like exactly what have they changed, maybe what they haven't and what you need to watch out for so that we could be very well-versed um, in making sure that meets the needs of our community. Um, and that's

085that's very very important. So, we had those kind of conversations. Um, a conversation that you have to have with any literacy, social studies, or science curriculum, um, is making sure that it meets the needs of your local community. Um, and so we I just want to point that out. That was a big part of our process. Um, I'm in this. Okay. So, that's that. So, let's talk next steps. Um, so what do we all get to do next? Um, pending board approval on April 22nd. Um, they don't know this yet. Um but we do have six days aligned um for some PD. So each grade level will have a day of PD before the summer. Um that has been a huge ask and an ask that I think is a very great idea. Um just

086wasn't sure if we could make it happen and as of this morning it's going to happen. So um they'll be getting an email at some point and hearing more about that. Um but um so they will get some PD so that before the summer um they have had some PD and access to their material so that they can start planning and working on some of those things. Um any instructional coaches, administrators are going to go through some more training over the summer. Um and then those are just all the other opportunities throughout the 2526 school year that we will utilize to to um make sure we have professional learning for all of our teachers um when it comes to literacy. So final slide here. Um we are recommending at the April 22nd board meeting um

087bringing forth um this proposal for CKLA as our K5 um elementary curriculum with UFly at the K2 level. Um this will be on display um if anyone wants to come check out there's resources here this evening. Um if anyone wants to take a look at any resources all the curriculum maps are linked in this presentation per board policy 6210 and school code. Um, if anyone wants to come look at them at central office, we can do online access, log you into a Chromebook or a laptop. You can look at materials. Anyone is welcome. Um, just call 217-5862161. We'll set up an appointment for you to have a conference room available to do so. Um, parents of K5 students will receive an email from me tomorrow um, just with information, some of the curriculum maps, the

088process for review, um, and a little Google form if they want to give any feedback and things like that just so we could have that information. um and that we are meeting school code and board policy. Right. So without that any questions? How did you select those 40 and what was your process? Yeah. No, great question. So we had a job posting um with like what the commitment, what the expectations would be and things like that. And then we sent that out to teachers. They there was a Google form with some different questions that they had to answer um what grade level they would be representing, all those things. So they all had to fill that out um what their interest, why they're interested, what they're going to do as part of being a representative

089on this team. Um and then we were able or we also told them we would like to see at least one person from each small pack or small PLC. So each grade level has two or three smaller groups and we wanted to have at least one representative from each of those um so that they could go back and share information and support their team through this process. Um, and so they followed through on that. Um, and we were able to get all of those representatives um, that they that they wanted to be involved. Um, I did not have to turn anyone away. Also, um, I didn't want to have to turn anyone away um, from the standpoint if they wanted to be involved in our our literacy initiative, then I wanted them there. Um, their

090voice mattered, so it worked out quite well. Um, how did you decide? So, you had it down to two. Mhm. What were some what were some of your deciding factors between the two? Between those two. Okay. So, your literacy vision I would say would be in front of you. So, we took different components from each of those um and they had to evaluate them on um each of those components. So, a lot of like the key bullet points and things like that in your your literacy vision. Um so, like student- centered learning, knowledge, intentional lessons, making sure there's explicit and structured instruction. Um there was some items that were very close between the two curriculums. Um but they had to rank each of those for each of them and CKLA is the one that had

091the highest scores for each of these. Yeah. So then I'm going to assume there are some folks who are wanting the other. How did you bring them along? What was that bridge like? Yeah. So we had a lot of conversation. We've spent so much time together. They have built such a strong like collegial community with each other. Um, they mentioned how like we moved them throughout the room and things like that and noticed that intentionally, but that was also so that they would build that community and get to know each other and get to know the different struggles at each grade level and things like that. So, from the beginning, we did a lot of like team building and things like that to make sure we were feeling comfortable. We didn't have to do as

092much of that as we went on over time. They had built such a strong connection and community with each other. Um, so we got to the point towards the end we talked a lot about consensus. We're not voting. We're building consensus. And so the idea of building consensus is you're right, there were some people that were that picked the other curriculum. Um very small amount. Um there was four people who picked the other curriculum. Um and the rest picked CKLA. Um but we talked about in that moment, that's why I didn't even share it tonight because that doesn't in our in my mind with consensus anymore. This is the we talked about we may not have agreed. This might not have been what we wanted, but we agree that as an elementary literacy vertical team,

093this is what we believe is the ne next best step for our students at Muhammad Seymour. So, we have determined like as a team consensus wise, this is what we're moving forward with. So, we had a lot of conversation about that um and that we wanted to go out as like a unified front um so that we're not like pitting people against each other and well, I didn't choose that or something like that. So, last question. Yep. Um, and I don't know if Mrs. Hunter picked up on this, but when she said it happens to you, like you're just going to make a change to make a change. That's the furthest thing from what you did with this and the ownership that you gave. Uh, certainly will help the climate and will help culture. I

094think will help performance. Um, so I I commend your leadership for that. I She patted you on the back for that. Do you want to highlight the budgetary piece of that? Yes. So, also in your Dang. That's a sir. Okay. So, in your bud in your packet, there are I just want to pop the balloon on the fast. Okay. So, all of this has been budgeted for. Mrs. Smith and I have had conversations. This is all budgeted for. Um, so it's it is unfortunately not all free. Um, but it is budgeted for um in the uh 24-25 budget. Um, so her Heather and I spoke uh last year as part of our strategic plan. She met with all of the goal leaders to make sure that they had what they needed um and that we

095were budgeting accordingly. So kudos to Mrs. Smith for her work on that and making sure that we were all living within our means um but also had what we needed. So, as you can see in your packet, you will see that overall there's a there's a pretty hefty penny to this. Um, this would be over the course of six years. And of course, my mouse is up there and not coming. It's not. Yeah, it's I forget what it is off the top of my head. Did I put it in my report? 30 something dollars a student. Um, so when you break it up per student every year, what this costs at the end of the day, it's a big number. Um, overall, but on a year-to-year per student basis, it that's what we'd be spending

096on literacy. It's about that $34. Did we go back to them after the first number you got? Oh, yeah. This is our third draft. Yes. Caitlyn can attest to my negotiating. So, um, yeah. So, book Never Split the Middle, right? I have not read that one. It's in my nasty Um, but no, that is that is definitely not and they uh they they had to sharpen their pencils a few times and and they did for us and um that is reflected in this price. You had mentioned like you're on their third edition. What if like two years from now it changes? Do they get that free the changes or No, that's like when a new car comes out with a an upgraded model, you can't just go back. What's the time frame from the admissions?

097Do you know? Um I do not I do not know. Um they've got about I think four and a half years between their second and third edition right now. Um so it just depends. Some companies they'll go 10 years. It it just depends um based on their needs. I mean the topics like that but it could be long term. You know what I mean? Yeah. I would agree. Do we have a curriculum package right now? So, right now we currently use Wonders. Um, and we've had that for over 2000 I was going to say over 10 years. Yeah. Um, and yeah, that's what we currently have. Okay. What's the cost associated with Wonders? So, that was paid for upfront. Okay. However many moons ago that that was adopted. So, I'm not sure what the cost

098on that was um to be honest with you. And not working anymore. Yeah. I mean, what do we what do we get for that money? Is it the materials? Is it does a liaison come with it? Yeah. Um, yeah. What's what are we paying for? You're paying for all the teacher materials. So, all the teachers will receive a kit for all the teaching materials um of like their like their lessons, their plans, all of that. Um, and then they will also receive like the student consumables. So, students will have different workbooks and things like that that go with that. There's different readers so kids can have some physical books in their hands. There's some online access for teachers and for students if need be. Um things like that. So you're really paying for the the

099pieces that they need every year, which is the individual student components that they use every year. And then can you talk about the implementation of this package? How long will it take? How tedious will it be? Will it be a shock to the system? Yeah, it it will be a shock to the system. Um I'm not going to sugar coat that and they know that. Um so I would say and it's written this way in the strategic plan of uh in my based off of research and everything either I have implemented or done or read about um it's usually about three years for an implementation of anything fully in terms of a curriculum world. The first year everything's new everything's hard every you're learning it as the kids are learning it because it's it's new

100every day for you as a teacher. Um and we experienced that when we went on the different site visits as well. they were very real with us and about hey three years we're finally hitting our stride. Um and so that would be my estimation of about three years is really where we start to see those gains. Um and start to feel really solid in what we're doing. It's not phased in over three years. It's three years until we are effective totally effective with it. It's not to say we won't be more effective as we go, but when you're looking at like peak efficiency of it. Yeah. Yep. No, great questions. Have you thought of any measures you could look at to decide where you're at in that implementation process? Absolutely. How are you behind and

101then what's the tail to it? Like Yeah. So I would say that goes along with what Dr. Lee shared earlier with our STAR benchmark assessment that we are currently piloting. Currently right now with FastBridge, we're not able to really dr not at all drill down to the standards and how we are doing in comparison to how we will do on the AR assessment. Um, and so that's why we've been piloting STAR, um, is so that we can drill down and see exactly like, hey, how did we start the year? And then be able to see the growth on those different standards and skills in our students throughout the year or, hey, what's really working well for us and what do we maybe need to hit a little bit more um, and being able to really

102target and pinpoint that, that's the exciting part about that. So to answer your question long and short, it's really the STAR assessments that we're really wanting to see. And then, as Mrs. Hunter shared those AR assessments. Um, we have some areas where Caitlyn mentioned the crying bulldog emoji stickers. That was a lot of some of our data in comparison to state that the whole team was not happy with. Um, and we we want to do something um that's going to improve those scores with our AR. Yeah, absolutely. That's the tale. I really want to see um those state assessments make that improvement and then that eventually is the ACT then moving forward. Yeah. No, great question. Is this K through five or K through six? It's going to be K through five. Through five. Okay.

103K through five. And then you had mentioned on average probably three years before you really start to feel like things are moving forward. Are you at all concerned about let's say for like the incoming third graders next year how they're going to will they be effective in a or I I like will they have a negative impact on it? You know what I mean? Because it's their first one. Yeah. So I would say teachers you probably don't even know. I mean, it's Well, I mean, there's some things we can anticipate, right? It's a fair question. So, from the standpoint of we currently have an MTSS system in place, so we're able to support kids during like what we call what I need time. So, kids who maybe need a little extra support to be able

104to access this curriculum, we have a we have a system in place and we're going to continue that. Um, and then I would say some of the instructional routines and practices are going to take more time in this first year until the students start and the teachers start to get comfortable with using them. So, we we will probably be going a little slower. Um, and we are going to take some time to make sure we learn those instructional practices and routines and things like that. Example, some of these say like 18 days, maybe it might take 21 days. Correct. That's okay. That's okay. Yep. Go slow to go fast. Yeah. I think the other piece is that we've already seen benefit in our third graders with what they're doing here at Middletown because we had

105some students that came through that had received instruction with UFly. And so we are finding this year that that's going much faster um like I know there were things that Mrs. Martin didn't have to teach um this year because they just already knew it. So those um those practices that have already started at Middletown which will continue with you. So now I'm excited actually for the that I'm always excited for new group of third graders, but excited for a new group of third graders to come in that will have had a full year of you fly. I mean, they'll just be coming in in a very different place than what kids have come in before. And I think that's been a little bit of uh the third grade teaching staff's frustration just with that curriculum

106is um just some of those lagging skills that that core tier one curriculum hasn't really solidified. Um, and Middletown staff probably been a little frustrated with that too of just some of those things that aren't, you know, super um, I guess mastered yet and haven't been explicitly taught for our kids. So, just want to reiterate that the three-year plan might some of those portions might be a little bit faster at Middletown because we are keeping you fly. So, we'll be on year two building Y. Plus, we're actually going to have some PD for our prek program receiving some Youly. So we might possibly here in the future be getting three, four and five year olds with you flying into the kindergarten. We might not need it eventually in second grade. Okay, which would be a

107great situation how to Yeah. Yep. Wait, we're not done. I've got like a whole lot of time. I knew she did. That's why I looked at her earlier. Getting boost or MCAST? No. Okay. So, do you have any online um because I know with the third edition they upgraded to add like online teacher data and all of that. Is there a way to gather student assessment data from you speaking English or something recognition is low Mr. Get that man a number of Buckley teacher's pet right here. So, I'm wondering if there is a way to take advantage of in the third edition, it comes with an online teacher data gathering tool, right? Where are they going to pull that data from? Because I was thinking it came from either booster or mclass, which are pro

108online programs that come with CLA for an additional cost online programs for the student. So the student then is it's similar to kind of what they're doing with in the curriculum with a teacher and then they go online independently and work on it to get extra right at home. Is this during the day? It could be during the day like while a teacher's pulling a small group or it's usually just like supplement supplement. Yes. But we don't have that. We don't have that. So with the online data is that going to pull because I know some assessments now are online as well. So that data is going to pull from those online assessments if we choose to use them. We can also do paper pencil if we wanted to. But yes, I'm just going to

109suggest use the online. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um so that that answered that question. Thank you. Um the rest of everything I want to say is this is phenomenal. Like how many times as an educator have you like been handed a curriculum and been like, "Yeah, I didn't really want this, but this is what they adopted, so good luck." like it happens all the time. And so the fact that there were so many pieces that you said that really stood out to me. Number one, the fact that everybody was trained in what kids need from early on all the way up through middle school to be strong readers. Even if you're a pre-K teacher or you're a fifth grade teacher, to understand what's happening before and after was is crucial. and the fact that like this

110alignment and this team and you drove all of that to make this unified belief in what we need to do for kids. And so, um, I think it was Mrs. Dodge who said, I walked in and I'm like, I know what I need for for for me as a fifth grade teacher and I know what I need for my fifth grade team. And then to hear everybody be like, okay, wait, but what do our kids need? and like to pull it back to the data and pull it back to here's what they needed before they got to me and here's what they need after they leave. Like that's amazing. So kudos to all of you and kudos to you. And on that note, um I think you should like present this at uh annual conference

111because like this is I'm not kidding. Like this is something that other school districts need to like you did everything that I'm like this is a dream. I mean I'm not kidding. like she needs to put in a proposal. One of those do. I'm serious. Maybe we could co-present. I'm not to go to a conference. I will cheer you on. But I mean other other districts need to hear about all of this because this like the steps that you took the the involvement that you had the buy in the fact that you went into this with a consensus model like we're not looking for 51%. We're we're looking for as much buy in as we can get because at the end of the day these are the people who have to go out and do

112it. And as many people as we see, yeah, this looks great if there's not buy in from that side, there's there's no point because then they're just going to put it right back on the shelf and just do what has worked or not worked for the last however many years. So I I really think you need to submit some maybe if you co-present. Ryan, lots of administrators in this room. Thank you. So, you did a great great job you guys. Thank you again. We appreciate it very much. Thank you. Thank you. Do we need a quick comfort break? Yes. Uh we are back. We are back. Okay. Fantastic. Um we are moving on to item number two under new business. Consideration and possible approval of career lights change proposal. Dr. Oh, there's back. Um, so

113this is um a proposal out of the high school essentially to make the test prep um and the career life planning course to have the same um basically expectations. Um and so you'll see those expectations are outlined there. Um but that's the proposal that the high school would like to move forward with. Just they've been experimenting and trying some different things um and piloting uh some different things Mr. Benedict and his team. Um and so this is the proposal that they would like to move forward with. Um is having those same expectations for kids in test prep versus those in career life planning. So any questions? So is this kind of like for kids who maybe want to go the trade route? Yes. I think this is awesome. So they have two different pathways. Kids

114can choose, parents can choose. Um and just making sure that they have those same expectations. We're not taking away any courses or options or anything like that. Just making sure it's the same expectations no matter which one you choose. I think that's like it just makes sense. Yeah, like doing this. Okay. Superintendent recommends that the board of education approve the change as presented in the grading and credit structure for career life planning effective starting with the 2526 school year. I have a motion for that. So moved. You have a second. Second. Discussion. Okay. Republic, please. Banister, yes. Yes. Lamb, yes. Rock, yes. Severs, yes. McMurray, yes. Um, okay, that passes. Consideration and possible approval of Illinois State University Pulse Program, MO. So, this is um something that Mrs. Northrup and I have been collaborating on.

115Um, this allows us to have anou with ISU um to allow some of our current paraprofessionals and our special education classrooms to be able to continue working with us and obtain um their bachelors in special education as long as they meet all the requirements through ISU. Um, so they've become a lot more flexible on the student teaching aspect and some of the um other aspects that that teachers need to become certified to be a certified special education teacher. Um, and so we would have to have thisou signed with them to be able to do that. Um, it doesn't, it's a five-year contract. If we want out early or anything, we could. Um, but it just allows us to have those conversations and allow some of our current pair of professionals to enroll in their program

116and continue their student teaching experiences with us. You have pair of professionals who are interested in that. We have one right now who's waiting uh on this for us to be able to approve them. um because ISU asks us like, hey, is this a good fit? Kind of gets our recommendations as a district. Um but we have to have this in place first. And I think this is critical because right now we have three and one coming on in the fall. Um former PAR professionals who are now certified teachers and teaching special education in our district. I mean, it's the number one reason we've been able to kind of tread water um with this process. So, I think it's critical that we be able to continue to do that if we want to staff our

117special education. That's a great idea. I think so, too. Any questions? Okay. Um, wait, we haven't Oh, you can say the superintendent recommends the board of education approve theou with Illinois State University Pulse program as presented. Do I have a motion? So, move. Who said that? Okay. Uh, do I have a second? Second. Justin. Any further discussion? Okay. Roll call vote. Jordan, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. McMurray, yes. Okay, that passes. Let's get some more special ed teachers. Um, item four, consideration and possible approval of food service fees. This is Heather. I really feel boring right now. Okay. Um, they continually look at our lunch prices every year to compare them to the USDA. We have consider been considerably low for a long time, but the the uh requirement is to at least increase our

118prices by 10 cents a year. So, that's what I'm recommending this, you know, for this year as well to increase those. That's what we did last year, too. Yes. Um, any questions? How am that on an annual basis that 10 cent equal? I'd have to look to figure that out, but I I can quickly and send that to you guys. It it doesn't have to be tonight. Later this week is fine. Just more curious, but certainly has increased over because our usership has certainly went up since we shifted to Quest. Are we still getting really positive reviews from Quest? Yes. Everything I have heard I have not heard and usually you know usually you hear the squeaky wheel and I have not heard anything. Do you guys get any feedback doing a good job? Positive.

119Great. Great. Uh the superintendent recommends that the board of education approve the meal rate increase as presented. Do I have a motion on that? So moved. Thank you. Do I have a second? I was going to say I'll second. Uh any other discussion? Okay, roll call vote. Lamb, yes. Yes. Surn, yes. Banister, yes. Jordan, yes. Marty, yes. Okay. The food service fees pass. Uh, item five, consideration and possible approval of playground improvements at Lincoln Trail. Yes. This is kind of Yeah, that's this is exciting, especially because we have so many great um contributors to this. We have 67,000 coming out of the LT account which was through the PTO dogwalk. Another 20k from PTO and uh the foundation's donating up to 15,000 and there was a 25,000 donation,000 donation. Right at this point, we are

120not actually paying for anything. Um what she's wanting to do eventually is put turf in like Middletown Prairie. Um but right now it's a crazy number. So we're going to wait and do that at a later time. There'll be turf after the after it's installed or like later you mean years down the road. What I think she'd like to have is a a spot where there isn't playground so the kids can still play when it's bad out. Yeah. Okay. But the total amount is 114 715 covered by other sources. Awesome. Wow. Can you speak a little bit more about the cooperating pricing? Like what does that mean? Yes, we have a contract um sort of with the roofing that we talked about before, the Omnia is co-op pricing. They actually bid it um statewide national,

121you know, they they bid it for bigger groups. So, we get a little better. So, and last time we did bid it out ourselves and we did only have the one vendor which is the same one through Omnia. So, I believe this salesman's out of St. Joe, right? is the um other donation is that we approved that at the uh December board meeting. Yeah, it was anonymous. It's amazing. Like the fact that we're looking at a new playground with donations that's just unheard of. tells a lot about the community. Yeah, it does. Um, okay. The superintendent recommendsation approve the plan for improvements and installation at Lincoln Trail Elementary as presented. Do I have a motion? Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you. Any further discussion? Okay, yes. Sever. Yes. Bannister, yes. Jordan,

122yes. Liam, yes. McMurray, yes. New playground. All right. Item six. Um, new playground. Yes. More of those improvement sessions. More of the same. 190,000 from mostly from the dog walk, 15,000 from foundation, and 20,000 would be from tort. So that is for the portion of the uh the turf which obviously his was a lot lower than what um we were looking at for Lincoln Trail. So that is a total of $225,000. The bulk of this is coming from the dog walk. Um I was just curious. I I clicked on each of the links and that added up to 25 or $30,000. Correct me if I'm wrong. Um, is the rest of that is the balance of that money turf the or maybe that's not all inclusive. the 225 that is the 190 um plus the

12315,000 right but how much is that is equipment and how much of it's turf that's what I think okay thank you roughly that I have a I have that broken out I've given you in a different format that's probably not in here but off top of my head it's probably around 115 is the turf is turf most of it is um equipment okay plus I'm sure plus the installation installation. Yeah, there's probably not tax, but um yeah, that's not included. Um I was just wondering like where's the rest of this money? That's a lot of turf. Turf is is by far the most expensive portion of that installation of it. So, we did uh I shouldn't say we the foundation donated money last school year, the school year before for playground improvements that included turf.

124There must be more even more turf uh than what we installed last. Yeah. So, so there's actually I was hoping for all my perimeter after the first quote came back. I had to scale back a bit that came out. So phase three two years down the road whatever that it looks like uh we'll look to get that last section but um this would be all the perimeter which is very very muddy and the feedback from the three sections that first phase provided has been tremendous on how much is being used and utilized and it's not buddy spreads the kids out kids love it um but the equipment has been really heavily focused on being inclusive with all kids um there's two very specific called inclusive worlds right in. Um, so I'm excited for that. And

125the prek has not had a very beneficial from the first phase. So they had a really nice improvement in their section this summer, too. Cool. Thank you. No turf on the prek, but that the turf is just on the outside of the perimeter of the first and second. Thanks. Okay. Uh, superintendent recommends the board of education approve the playground improvements and installation at Middletown Prairie Elementary as presented for that. So move second. Thank you. Any further? Okay. Evans, yes. Yes. Jordan, yes. Lamb, yes. Rock, yes. McMurray, yes. Can I interject real quick? just um last month at the foundation meeting um we we brought to them a pro projects for um the high school um some some video board that that present in commons area. So we've got another place in the district to to

126utilize that. Um and then the two playground projects at um the two elementary schools and then um Mr. Mills uh and I had had discussions on on what's something that he could junior high and with the hopefully the the the bid gets approved for the secured entrance at the junior high and that's going to take away some of the the leisure spots in the morning where all the kids stand and things like that. So Nathan's got a really nice idea of of pouring some concrete and putting some benches and things like that. So that was what we brought foundation that didn't quite align with the foundation's overall mission statement. So, what they did was they increased LTS and MPEs by $5,000 and then the district when we bring Nathan's project um forward will just be

127paid for district money too. So, we appreciate the foundation saying, "Hey, I didn't quite fit in here, but we want to increase to make sure that we're we're doing our mission and spending um the money that we raise for kids." How amazing is it that we have these organizations who are just pouring into like and the foundation and just people who are constantly donating to those organizations that are then turning around and actually it's amazing to me. Okay. Do we have a motion? We did. We did. I got it crossed off, but I'm like maybe I crossed it too. All right. consideration and possible approval of driver education card. Currently, we have a 2007 Sebring and two 2015 Corollas for our driver's ed cars. And we found find it beneficial to actually do a 36-month

128lease so that we can have vehicles for our students to drive in. Um, this is what a lot of districts do on the state. Um, so we put it out to bid. I actually went to dealers and just passed out our our bid forms because I don't know, you know, if they're going to be looking at the paper or not. So, we did get uh three bids um for the driver's ed cars. And the one that won was Sarah Champagne for the Accords. So, it' be three Accords um and with a lease payment of $35024 a month. Just have a question. Sure. says 12,000 miles per month each. Oh, I should have said perh Yeah, we're per year. Per year. Sorry. We're not driving that much. We're fine. No, sorry about that. 12,000 per year.

129We won't come. Will we come close to 12,000 per year? Will we come close to 12,000 years? 36,000 miles in driving. I I I can't imagine on driver's I don't know what drivers is. Yeah. Not on that or no. Yes. Yeah. I mean I don't now you'll see on the next one we actually raised it and it was not a month. Um the 15,000 for the SUV because it has been used a lot more only. What is the I have a son who's going through driver's ed right now. His birthday is in April. He's a sophomore. Um the backlog of student drivers is like he wasn't going to be for a long time. So we had to pay out of pocket so he could get his driver's license in a reasonable time frame. How many

130cars do we have right now? We have three. We have three right now. Um have his class is pretty large. Have you looked at the classes behind and said, "Hey, do we need four to get folks through? Is there enough teachers for for driver's ed? That's a possibly thought. Well, and at this price, um he has assured that Mr. Burton has said that we can get as many as we want, you know, based off of this price. So, if we wanted more, then we can get more. I I do know that's it's been a backlog for a long time. It has been since it's Yeah. for years. Well, I think I don't think it was because it was it was before anyway question. Yeah. Does this lease agreement include any uh maintenance uh to the

131vehicles through the dealership or it's a 36,000 milei warranty through a year. So, no like oil changes or tire rotations? Uh, I don't I don't think so, but just the regular maintenance standard lease, but they'll put a a break on it. Yes. Uh, any more questions? Superintendent recommends the board of education approved as presented. Do I have a moved? Have a second. Thank you. Any further discussion? I might have one more question. Um, so we talked about or it says in here about um putting up those older vehicles uh in a closed bid process to purchase that's to the community or whoever. Um are we voting on that as well or just the least? No, I'll bring that to you next month with a whole list of what we're going to surplus. That's just to

132let you guys know that's what we're planning on doing. But we've got um we've got, you know, the old band vehicle and we've got something that's we've got something that's sitting over at uh Come on. Um we've got somebody that's um there's something that's sitting over transportation department as well. So, we're going to we're going to have a list of things to surplus that we'll go through the bid process on. Question. Okay, we've got a motion and a second. Any other questions? Okay, let's go ahead and do a roll call vote. Banister, yes. Jordan, yes. Lamb, yes. Rock, yes. Bevers, yes. McMurray, yes. Okay, that passes some cars. Now, let's talk about SUV. SUV, um, that Abid came in low for Sullivan Parkill Suburban, which is actually who we had the Suburban with us last

133time. So, we'll just be doing the trade and that is 15,000 miles per year. Uh, but 1,190 per month, which did go up quite a bit. Um, but I did uh increase the miles just because we have we went over this last time, so didn't want to pay those extra miles. Um, and then obviously cars are costing a little bit more than they were three years ago. So, if we get to a point where we're getting close on a mile, can we just say can't use it? Figure out something else. We have not done that in the past. We don't have buses or bus drivers. So, like the reason that this is then so helpful is because you got coaches who can think or something. I don't know. I just don't know what these are.

134I don't I don't And it's used for PD as well. So, it's used for several different items. Um, not not to beat anybody up over this, but when we did the um the um the activity buses, so this is in addition to that. Obviously, are we at a point where we added two buses? Would like a third bus in lie of this or we always going to need something a little bit smaller bridge the gap? I think I think that we always need something a little bit smaller for the PD and for small groups to go. Yeah. And then the other thing is that um staff are more much more comfortable driving this as opposed to an activity bus and saving on that. That's it. Money a month. Great. Have you ever priced our rental?

135No, I have not. I mean, corporations used to do this. Now they just do car rental. Okay. So, just a thought, you know, if that's anything you'd ever need. Yeah. Like through enterprise or something like for a day instead of Did you know you could do that? Yeah. Well, like they have an expensive amount of money. Like I I mean, yeah, rental cars are I don't I find rental cars very expensive right now. Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just rental cars are the places I go to. I don't know. Sounded to me though like we're are we using this almost every day? Well, if we had to increase the mileage, well, there's that. But did I see somewhere in here where I mean, are we taking kids to and from school on some circumstances

136or they have in the past? I don't know if we're still are we still doing that. Where my question is coming from the professional development. Is that a spot where we should be renting a vehicle as opposed to or is that on? The other thing we could do for professional development, we can just pay mileage to go do something like that and encourage that. This is like for instance for the site visits. For instance, Dr. Maggie was taking a group of people somewhere. But if we've just got teachers that are going to a conference or something like that, the typical thing is it so if we keep it to 12,000, which I know that we went over, but if we kind of change how we do things, is that is that the $857 a month?

137So it would be less. No, it'll be a little bit more than that still um just because of the difference in price between now and three years ago. So that was the price of the previous lease. Yes. And and certainly 12,000 miles. Sure. And certainly um suburbans are expensive. I know. Yeah. And when it says here like maybe a VCR in the lights. So it says polls trailer to Kabota and equipment football games. Are those away games? Yes. Yes. Yeah. They take an enclosed trailer to away football games. All the shoulder pads, helmets, and all that on the bus components like this side by side. But I don't think uh Suburban big enough to have all those pads and stuff either. Trailer. Okay. Sorry. that just come out. I'm just cheap. I am when it

138comes to I appreciate that. I'm okay with that. Economically intelligent. Yeah. When it comes to stuff like this and I appreciate that we're like trying to think outside the box, but I want something that's reliable, too. Last thing I want is for something to break down. Yeah. And then and it's obviously being used. So I think that's super the board of education approve the lease bid as presented. Is there a motion? So thank you. Is there a second? Second. Uh any further discussion or questions? Okay. Mr. Roa Jordan. Yes. Lamb. Yes. Rock. Yes. Severs. Yes. Banister. Yes. McMurray. Yes. Uh that passes. Okay. Consideration and possible approval of bid results for the secured entry project. Yeah. This is exciting. Um the bar we had uh let me see here. How many two bids um March

13913th um the low bid was Barbara Datley. Um, it actually came in $139,000 less than expected. So, that was a good surprise at $75,900. And I believe that $75 includes the $80,000. We have a $80,000 contingency. Okay. So, it could even be less if that is not used. So, the majority of this will come out of the tort p plan. Um I when you approved the tour plan I had a list of expenditures in there. This was one of them that makes it we are able to use this money because we had it in our program to use it. So and we have plenty of money in that in that fund at this point. Any questions on that? Why such a significant amount? Yeah. Why why was the estimate compared to the bid so different?

140Well, in talking to Damian, um it's that the bids have been coming in really low. So, yeah, I think Hungry Federers good market. Um this wasn't the first that I've had come in kind of like this this spring. Essentially had a $8 million project come in about 10% under, had another come in about this level. So, um I think it's just the type of project. Um, it also was kind of at that threshold where some smaller local shops were able to to do it. So, that's exactly where my mind I'm like just and this plans until now that amount of money, right? I mean, if we got hungry biders, well, we would not be bidding. I'll refer right now. Um, okay. Other questions? How many companies showed up? Um, not to bid, but wasn't there

141like anformational meeting? Yeah, we had a pre- bid. Yeah, I mean, there was, I don't know, 15 people there, maybe 20 people. a lot of honestly until the morning of I expected four bids, right? Uh there's two biders I expected that that didn't show up but two and they're under budget so and then when they submit their bids they don't know how many other bids there are. So the only knowledge they have is from that walkthrough meeting I assume. Yeah. Yeah. So they think there's a lot of competition. So that's helpful. Yeah. Yeah. For us. Yeah. They'll show up at the uh next lots of boards. very pleased at the at the end of the walk through and the amount of interest. So, yeah, Miss Barbara Datley, it's good references. Yes. And I actually spoke

142to them this morning just to make sure that schedule was never brought up as a concern through the bidding. Um, and I actually called them this morning just to make sure that wasn't and yeah, they feel comfortable with completion over the summer too. So, it's also good. They've worked in our district before. Have they? They also I think included the bid tabs in there. Um a lot of local firms too doing the sub work so you can see who's doing electrical and the finish works in if you guys want to see. That's just good to know. Use local. That's great. Okay. Any other questions? Okay. Superintendent recommends the board of education approve the bid from Barbara Dietley for the secured entry project at Muhammad Seymour Junior High as presented. Do I have a motion? Move.

143Thank you. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you. Further discussion. Okay. Roll. Lamb. Yes. Yes. Veterans. Yes. Banister. Yes. Jordan. Yes. McMurray. Yes. Okay. We're going to get a secured entrance at the junior high. All right. Item 10, consideration and possible approval of resolution to intervene before KAB. So, we've been included um as you mentioned a resolution in here um that would administrator that would allow um our administrators to go ahead and work with legal counsel in the event that as a group we decide uh that we want to intervene uh when we're when we've got a property tax appeal. So, as opposed to having a new resolution for each time, as we see this occurring more and more, um the legal council suggested, hey, you know, you can pass this once and then

144we would never be in a situation where the timing didn't work out that we needed to have a special meeting or something of that nature. Certainly, as you know, when we have issues with property tax appeals, I'll throw those in a weekly memo just to keep you updated on that. And then as a as a taxing body group, Heather normally runs um a group email with Hornbell and the public library and and the other taxing bodies to see what we think about as far as how far we want to go with the appeals and things like that. So, we would certainly continue to keep you in the loop, but this just gives us a little flexibility of not having to take every resolution to you in the event that that the the timing just didn't

145work that we needed to get something in prior to questions or thoughts on that. I wish we had the historical like why haven't we done this before? Do you know? Well, I I think you're probably seeing them more and more than than what you did. I mean, This is probably the first time that we've seen two or three residentials um that are wanting to reduce their EAV uh by over $100,000 because that's what throws up the flag that we get is in $100,000. Any questions? Okay. The superintendent recommends the board of education approve the resolution authorizing interventions before the Illinois Property Tax Appeal Board as presented. Do I have a motion for that? Oh boy. Yes, I got it. So, who got the motion? Mr. L. I'll second it. Okay. Um, any further discussion? Okay.

146Mr. Ro, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. McQuary. Yes. All right. Consideration uh and possible uh oh, sorry, that was the wrong page. Consideration and possible approval of an intergovernmental agreement with the Mana Public Library. Uh yes. So, in the fall of 21, um the board and Dr. Hall approved intergovernmental agreement with the Muhammad Public Library. And this was very popular um around that year. Um, a lot of districts did it. Um, it was an opportunity for the the local public library to offer a free library card to all students of the district that weren't served by a library district. Um, so if uh if you live outside of city limits, you can still get a free library card if there's an agreement with the the the school district. So um as you know there needs to

147be some some some things in kind done between the two organizations in order for all of this to to make it work. Two the two things that that the district agreed to is that um we allow them facilities which we allow our public bodies to use facilities as we expect to use theirs. Um so they do do a couple of events here to where they'll offer some child care down in the classrooms. the prek classrooms are a little bit more conducive for child care than the rooms at the the library and then they'll use the boardroom for the programs that they're having. The other thing is that um they asked that they be um able to speak with our director of facilities and and maintenance if they have questions on something so they could bounce

148an idea if they've got an HVAC question or something like that. um to tell you how much that's been utilized. Uh John thought that it was still Steve Curtis that was our our director of facilities. So um clearly that hasn't come into play. One thing that is in this intergovernmental agreement that I do want to make sure you you know is is that if if a kid checks out a bunch of books and doesn't return them and John can't collect them, then we are on the hook for that. At the end of the day, that has not been an issue in the three years. Uh, but I just feel like if we're going to approve it that I I need to, you know, be transferred. It's for those kids that live out of district. Yes.

149Yes. Yes. For the for the kid that lives in district and has 10 books that they can't get that's on us, right? No, it's for the students that are outside of the the district. And if that's an issue, then uh but it has not occurred thus far. So, it's your guys' kids. You show over there. My kids books back. My kids won't go to the library anymore. Well, well, they do not one, but so it's on you. There are more than book, just so you know. They got great puzzles, games. You can check out games. They even have um streaming devices. So, like if you want to watch a show on Apple TV and you aren't paying for Apple TV like the McMurray, you can get a streaming device from the library. There you go.

150There we go. There's our inkind. Uh yes. And then one other thing is is that we will send a sky alert a couple times a year for them. Awesome. Okay. Uh any other discussion? I don't like the uh on the hook for something we're not in control of, but it's not been an issue. I'm not going to raise it. Yeah. Yeah. Last chance to raise a stink. I'm giving you I'm not I'm just making my superintendent recommends the board of education approve the intergovernmental agreement with the Mohammed Public Library as presented. I have a motion. So moved. Thank you. I have a second. Second. Thank you. Further discussion. Awesome. Roll call vote. Evans. Yes. Yes. Jordan, yes. Lamb, yes. Rock, yes. McMurray, yes. Okay, that is approved. um technology support discussions. Uh yes. So this

151was meant for our March 3rd board of education meeting and um as you know it ran past 11. So we moved a few things um for our discussion items for for the next March meeting. And at that meeting um we were asking to um add a support specialist uh which is mainly working with our Chromebooks and things like that as we continue to have more more devices with that. Um and then we also um with the the resignation of Maxica have changed some of the the duties with regard to our district data specialist and we've we've begun to screen out and actually Kyle has interviewed a little bit for that as well. So with that regard as as a U central office and and our with our directors Kyle, we've talked about what our needs

152still are in the technology department and we need someone with some more technical support um with regard to um educational technology and then just another another mind as far as working on um all things technology from the higher level thing. So um Jared Lynn is our former director of technology and um certainly did a fine job for us. And he is out on his own now and uh does a consulting business where he offers uh director um support a couple days a week. It'd be uh less expensive than um than a full-time person without paying benefits and things like that. Um and and um Dr. Bagby and I have met a couple different times with Jared. Um Dr. Bagby and I have met with Kyle to discuss that as as a possibility and and right

153now uh we're not recommending it right now. Uh but we are open to that and and Jared's here this evening. Kyle's here this evening. Dr. B's here this evening. So um just wanted to to bounce that off of you and and see um as we continue to discuss it a little bit more um if there were questions or things like that. um pricewise, uh what that looks like service-wise, you know, who's at the end of the day, um just things like that. Um as we look and continue to to consider that is bringing it forth uh maybe next month. So, we're down a person in the technology department. No, no. So remember on on March 3rd we added um what we call more of a Chromebook technician. That's right. Um so they work with the

154the you know our Chromebooks mainly at at the building level. Max Senica was our district data specialist. Um that's going to be uh more Skyward-based as opposed to he is skyward based but then also helps with a lot of networks and technical things and such. this will be more full-time skyward and working with our our registars and things like that. So, what we'd like to do is get Kyle some more support um and Jared's company as an option to to do so. Um, and then obviously Jared's um, more experienced in the educational technology piece and and Kyle is also Kyle's been doing a great job for us and and we had this conversation with Kyle about how can we get him the more support as well because Kyle's background was medical fields in the county.

155So what would that look like? Would it be uh like an hourly base? it'd essentially be two days a two days a week um is where we would have sole um support um from Jared, but then also at the end of the day um he's got to answer. And in all fairness, Jared has answered our phone calls since he left. So like on call, like if you had an emergency yes and and that is and and and I want to be abundantly clear, we're getting that service right now for free. Yeah. We keep that like some point that's got to stop point. But we've um I I don't remember the exact numbers. I I believe it was somewhere between 60 and 70,000 for that service for for the year. and we've worked with Heather on

156that and the technology budget and then looked at what a salary and and benefits and retirement on on top of that and it it makes sense to us but we just want to continue to flush out to make sure that that it it works for all involved Jared Kyle Dr. Bagby and myself is that a calendar year school year it'd be it'd be from July 1. But with Mack turning in his um resignation earlier than that, we may want to look at at starting that a little bit sooner, too. And we've also talked to the principles about it as well since they worked with Kyle um and our and and Jared before that. So when they have issues, so mull it over. If you have questions because you know this wasn't real detailed because it

157was going to be for discussion. So if you have questions, just reach out to me and and u if I don't have the answer and I need to touch base with Kyle or Dr. Baggy, I'll get back to you right away. I think one thing that would help me visualize it is like what duties would fall where, what would be your big areas and kind of how would you break down? Yeah. And we've got that we've got that sketched out, but we're not ready to bring it to you. Fantastic. Maybe how you utilize in Jared now. Sure. Some of the questions. Sure. Yeah. What are we getting for free? What are we getting for free? Just out of the kindness of my heart. So, yes, I know. Just couldn't get away, could you? It just

158sucks everybody right back. It does. Yeah. This is along the lines of your question, but like I'm assuming, let's pick a day. Uh, Tuesday, Thursday, your two days. So it's like all these things that come up on Monday, all these tickets, you come in on Tuesday, work through them. Wednesday, all those things that build up Thursday, work through them. Or is that like schedule maintenance on the server Tuesday? I mean, h like how can we use you during those times? Like depending on how it it looks. Um districts do it differently. Um, some districts just use me for doing those support tickets that I'm there. Some districts utilize me for that long-term vision planning. So, on the days that I'm there, I'm solely doing like the five and 10 year planning. Um, and I'm not

159doing those support tickets, right? Uh, it just depends on what the district's needs are, right? And so, on let's say Tuesdays and Thursdays, right? Um, it could be me solely meeting with building administrators to discuss what does it look like for the technology in the classroom, right? Where where I have that expertise of education technology, I can fill in those gaps, right? That is not necessarily me doing tickets and me fixing problems, but me long-term strategizing. That's not necessarily a problem that occurred on Monday, right? It's just me getting in those time slots that I'm I'm in the district. Does that make sense? Mhm. And and then from that perspective, I'm just there for that eight hours doing the job that is necessary. Got you. Does that make sense? It does. I I just don't

160necessarily wrap my mind around like how long that process would take versus like these other process. Right. So, we're we're adding another guy that'll do the tickets and the everyday stuff like like that. So, we're looking at more of with Kyle being a director and and Jared being a former director at the the bigger picture stuff and then the more technical things as far as servers and and redundancy and and cabling and stuff like that. Thank you. So if you have questions move it forward. Thank you. Okay. Space utilization. Dr. Lee. Yes. That was just I threw on here uh in light of the discussion our last meeting regarding uh portables and and Nathan happens to be here this evening and our space restraints and we've talked about you know what is being utilized and

161what isn't here at MPE. So Ryan can speak to that as well. It just uh actually works pretty nice. Um and I know that that um you know Mr. Mcome isn't here this evening but that he wanted to to discuss that. So um yes maybe um one of the things that first of all thank you for being here Mr. Ross. Um one of the things that we've talked as a board about is portables for extra space so that we can make sure that we've got portable spaces for for kids. we're adding on to the front of the junior high to add that secured entry space. Um, when we think about portables at Lincoln Trail, the concern becomes there isn't space to put portables. So, if you're going to put a portable, you're going to take

162parking lot space. There's already not enough spaces to park. Or you're going to take playground space, which is going to become a safety issue because you have so many kids there and less room for them to have recess. So what we need to be thinking about is what needs to and and when I say we I don't mean we I mean we need to be thinking about is what do we need to do to make sure that kids learning needs are met um in a way that does not then cause unintended consequences to our kids. Um, so you know, Max isn't here tonight, but he has been very vocal uh being um against portable classrooms and in a case of moving trail. I wish Mo was still here. Um I I have to agree with

163that. I don't think that's the best idea to to consider. Um you know, Dr. Lee and our administrators work so well as a team. It was one of those things that I also saw with these teachers, like the way everybody just kind of came together and united around a common vision. Um, and I love the way that Dr. Lee works with the administrators and they all talk together about what can we do as a whole team to support each other rather than just support my building. Um, and so one of the things that that might need to happen is that Encore teachers go ontos. They lose their classroom spaces. Those rooms become classrooms. And then those teachers, so art, music, um PE, uh STEM, ABL, here it's ABL, here it's ABL, Lincoln Trail is steam

164and five, li. Okay, library is part of the rotation. So art, music, and steam would go on carts. Those spaces would open up as classrooms. So then what would happen is when teachers have those specials, those teachers go into the classroom teachers to teach that class. So this is similar to what we already have happening at the junior high. We have teachers sharing spaces at the junior high where they don't have their own classroom. They're rotating through on carts. We have one teacher at the high school, right? Is that the code? There may be a couple on at the high school. There's one at the junior high for sure that's on a on a card. And really if you wanted to add more on a car there's the room utilization doesn't allow for such correct

165how much square and just simply brainstorming. Can't our libraries go to all digital like a Kindle? We already have Chromebooks. There's got to be a relationship with Kindle at some point. I mean I would think that that would free up a ton of space. You mean like use Kindle on a Chromebook in lie of having all the books physical books? I get the idea. I'm just not seeing the practicality of it. You eliminate the library. I'm not as a reader. I'm not seeing the practicality of it. Like when I read on this instead of a book that's not a Chromebook. I like books. You can read on a Chromebook. It's digital. What I'm saying? Do you read books? Yeah. Okay. So like I'm imagining sitting in bed at night with my Chromebook on my lap

166to read a book. Never split the middle, right? Never never split a difference. He's he's turned me on to three or four books. He reads books all the time. That I think I you know what I think you are an amazing person and I love the way you think outside the box. I don't like that idea at all. You want a kid in a space or do you want a kid in a trailer? Uh well I think we can find a compromise. Like maybe we convert the library in. How about we convert the library into classrooms and we take those books and put them into a storage space and kids can submit electronic requests for the books and then they can actually get a book. Why wouldn't you just have a digital and have it

167all because who's reading on a Chromebook? This is not this is not productive. Can I get speech on a Chromebook? They read uh not necessarily. No. Go get one of the readers over here. I'm going to show you what they're going to read. looking at. They're great. Here you go. This is what they're reading. They're great. They're not reading on a Chromebook. They're reading a book. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. So, here's what I here's what I would say. I am nothing against nothing against the digital. I just think that's not going to be the solution now. So, in in what you just described, why wouldn't we look at having how many other 35 Kindles and put the entire library on a Kindle? Well, I thought you were saying use the Chromebooks. You can,

168but you or if in your imaginary world when you you can read a book. Yeah. Your your kids read on every single kid person is using this. Why don't we put our library on this? Can we just do a show of hands? I don't want to. I You're talking about space. I am lit. Literally, none of my children are sitting on Kindles and reading. None of my children have Kindles. You are talking about space. Yes. Do you Do you want to talk about space or do you want to talk about books? I'm talking I want to talk what's best for kids. So, if we're talking about what's best for kids, I think we're thinking that's too shortsighted to say that we are going to put books on Kindles. I think we can come up with

169a better solution if we want to use the libraries. I have no problem with converting. How many? My question is how many square feet of Do you know how many would you guess how many yours are? Be a complete guess, but probably 1,800 something like that. Okay. Yeah. How many what what's the classroom size then? So we could put three lampers is 480. Right. Right. So you could probably put three three classrooms and all. So the hard part is no because you you have points of egress, but our library is unique in the sense you have the elevator to go up and you have upstairs, right? So you can't really use that space because that's next to Mrs. Iverson's room, right? And then you have another special ed room that you have to access through

170a door that used to be a library office. So like we could do it, but you're gonna like I'll give you an example. The resting room, they bid it to to convert to two classrooms and two offices. I don't know three years ago. It was this spring spring of 2022. Okay. And it was $350,000 to convert that space. So what would the library be? because there's a lot more moving parts just to keep access points to the other part like so I I don't disagree but I think in the grand scheme of things that's a lot of money to get two classrooms if you get two classrooms. So, and again, if there's a bigger picture, right, and if spaces that is Yes. Yeah. I kind of thought your your idea though about like books are

171kept over here and I'm thinking like you said like store Well, we don't we're using our boiler room for what space you need to create. I mean, I would rather have books in a portable than kids in a portable. Like, the other piece too to think about is the only place that we have large enough to have a meeting and kid our staff to sit on the floor is a library. So, I we can't even have a meeting, right, other than the library. So, there there's something to think about that it's not just a library. It's a space where we do we did IR trainings before and after school for our staff, get it prepping, right? We have other meetings, whether that's our retired teachers that come in. I We don't have a space big

172enough in the school. That's a good point. To to utilize staff meetings, too, right? 100%. All of our staff meetings are in there. I I would use the cafeteria, but it's not heating. It's not cooled. So, in August when we come back, it's 90 degrees in there, right? Um I so I guess there's there's a lot more if we're just talking pure space it's a great idea but the big picture is I want and we learned this from co we want as many flexible spaces that are big that can be utilized in lots of different ways not just breaking them all into small spaces because then it really ties our hands of what we can use that space for. So, it almost seems like at the junior high the only option is going to be

173to increase class size because we don't have anywhere else to put these. I don't think that's I'll be honest. I mean, we got the biggest class sizes in the district up there. I don't know that that's even possible. I mean, we're we're 28 29. I've got some that are over 30. I mean, so overall, that's the average. That's not I mean, and when you look at the school report card, Lincoln Trail in the junior high and probably Lincoln Trail in the junior high. Largest class sizes on average by far. No more space for a portable after goes in, right? We can keep going. I mean, we've designed Well, I'm not saying it's a great idea, but we can keep going down the lane where like where the ditch would be. Talk about the actual lane

174like uh the Circle Drive. We've designed it to just keep going south. That next one will be adjacent to the circle drive and just keep moving. Now there'll be power concerns because we only have enough power to bring to this next one. When we did the previous one, we planned for that down the f. The conversations were so but it just I mean I I hear you and I get what you're saying, but you got to think those spaces are tradeoffs. Yep. And it does. Well, and that's why like why I said this is not a conversation for the seven board members. This is a conversation greater beyond this room because we are not living the dayto-day. These guys are living the dayto-day. And dad and how many sessions are how many sections are you

175away from specials going on carts? We have been lucky this past two years of our kindergarten not being as big. Our second grade is really really large that we're moving on. The current current kindergarten and first grade is not nearly as large. So I think we'll be okay. Um for you never know what kindergarten's going to bring. Um but last year every year I look at those enrollments and I haven't I have a plan in mind for one room right now that if I have to do that we can make it work um without I'd have to move rooms at. So I have to move I would move a classroom into what health is currently but I moved health into special ed room and we have two spaces that our special ed teachers can go

176that's a smaller space but they are still able to use utilize those. So are we saying there was not enough room in Lincoln Trail for the incoming because the second grade class is so large are we for sure? So we need to figure out something. So, we're fine. We're fine for now. What we need to be thinking about is long term because we just failed three referendums and the community has been pretty clear that they're not. I mean, is there this going to look pretty, but is there space front of Lincoln Trail if needed potentially? There is. Yeah. You already get there, but I think that we probably need to look at some some people on carts going that direction. What about there was some conversation about uh some legislation uh in the House and

177in Illinois about how those funds can be spent. There any change updates on that? Forget that. I It was about a prek. Oh, no. There's a Yeah, you can you can build a prek building. Um they have more prekk building, but it's only prekk at the moment. Well, but I feel like the conversation was I feel like there was another prek. What was it? Oh, Damian is here. Previously the rule I feel I was trying to remember who I had that conversation with. Previously the rule was to build a new building like a new standalone facility had to get a referendum no matter if you had the funding or not. The law is that you can build a new building without referendum if you're increasing the number of kindergarten and pre-k rooms. That's just permission

178to build it. Funding still is under the same rules. You can't just go raise taxes to build that. You just have the permission to build the boat. So doesn't change our situation at all. No. What it changes is for districts that either had cash on hand or other types of funding avenues, they could invested into prek as a standalone building. 130% adequacy and have been saving money over the years. You can just go build a building. This building's different because it's sales tax money. So that applied to this building. But I'm sure taxpayers would have issue if you're just reading it for fun. That's what it is. I was thinking maybe we could build a prek building that's attached to a junior high and that way we can just make that happen. Check what kids

179are in the room. It would work out just fine. So anyway, so I know that you're having conversations with our administrators about all of this. Um, but it's just something that we need to know going forward that this is going to it's going to be an issue and we're going to have um really hard decisions to make. On that note, we ready for a close session? Yeah. Real quick. Um, all right. A close session tonight. Close session is necessary tonight for the appointment, employment, compensation, discipline, performance, dismissal, performance or dismissal of specific employees. Is there a motion to go through session? Thank you. Is there a second? I was to say no one has to go. Um, we do need a roll call vote to go into close session. Yes. Rock. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

180Uh we don't anticipate any business following close session. So we will um turn off YouTube and um take a quick break and then return back for close session.