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Sex Education Committee Hearing - Public Meeting (Final) September 19 2022 @ 5:00 pm

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YouTube / Blue Ridge Unified School District #32
Date
2022-09-20
Location
Navajo County, AZ
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5,497 words · about 31 min
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2026-06-05

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001you ready to go I would like to call this meeting to order this is a public hearing all it is is uh there won't be any presentations we're hoping people have come prepared and they would like to just take a few minutes if you wouldn't mind and tell us if you'd like to support the presentations or if you'd like to just say don't do it at all and uh well if you come to the podium take a microphone and and uh give your name so Mary can record this since this is a polite public meeting we appreciate that so we're welcome we're I mean and personally this is this is for the board to get information so that we can help make a better uh better informed decision so we would like people to come

002up and just Express their opinions about what they would like to see either with that program the there are two programs presented and whether the option would be none at all and we'd ask people to take maybe three minutes on the long side because we've had a lot of people Express well I don't know if we've had a lot of people Express opinions we've had a lot of opinions by a few people so we would like to hear more but if you could just take a few minutes so everybody would have an opportunity to do that and personally I'd like to hear from the staff [Laughter] okay this is a public hearing so that we can get input there won't be any vote on this for at least 60 days so it'll be probably what

003December before we vote on this and a presentation and a presentation but a recommendation from the administration will give it be given to the board and we'll have the opportunity to vote on that recommendation so this is a opportunity for you to express your opinion so that a recommendation can be swayed maybe one way or another and Dr Wright would you like to just explain the two programs that are being presented whether they can be combined into one program or nothing at all sure and and the two different programs are the first one to be brief choices is the one which is a little more abstinence based both of the programs promote um students making good choices and both programs including the county which is a little more comprehensive encourages students to make good decisions

004and equip them to make good decisions about their behavior and they educate them as to what those good decisions are and how to go about that it doesn't neither program promotes a certain perspective with regard to moral stands I would say one as I said though choices is more abstinence-based and the county is a little more comprehensive those differences and the third option would be we just want to teach it at all and and we some have voiced that opinion on the the administration side if you could withhold your recommendation but just speak your piece on both sides that would be helpful to me because I think we're going to meet after this and then be able to have a more comprehensive and a more comprehensive setting with our Administration team to talk about which

005of the two if we choose to move forward with those what they would be but if you have at least feelings on both programs I want to share those with the board that would be helpful and if we could like Mr Merrill said keep it to two three minutes max that'd be helpful thank you So currently we actually have the choices is six through eight is what we're doing and then the comprehensive what we are currently doing for our school correct that's what I thought that's not accurate we're doing both and we haven't done anything for almost three years okay but we've done both in the past for great bands 6 through 12. okay okay so as as a stand just so this is for the board and the comments should be addressed to the

006board instead of Dr Wright so you can get uh information if that's at all possible and uh so the two programs we haven't done for the last three years we haven't taught any sex education for the past two years three years and the law has changed it's not mandatory that we teach sex education it's mandatory that if we put a program into position to be taught as part of the curriculum then that we have to go through this process to approve the to that curriculum to be added to to the regular elementary junior high and High School curriculum and then we'll vote on that that's what we'll be voting on so if we all just want the status quo that's just fine if if not then then everybody feels like there's a need for that

007then fine we'll we'll take that into consideration and I think the process if you can address the board what you'd like and how and what why you feel that way take two or three minutes really appreciate it and then in the next 60 days the board will probably do some of our own research into the programs and see you know what they are so that when the recommendation comes we're fully up to speed on it so all right time first person we'd like you to come take the microphone and come to the stand and address the board if you wouldn't mind so I'll give a brief history on what the high school's been doing so uh has was mentioned we haven't had anybody come into the high school since covid and prior to that we

008had a combination of where it was shared what semester we had Azu partnership come in and the other semester we had had the county come in and do the presentation typically those presentations were done in freshman Foundation class and then also an mepe weightlifting class and they would do it either two weeks at a time where they go in every day and then the other option would be where it was one day a week for nine weeks I think and I'm not sure which which one was done but that's that was the format of how the lessons were presented um so the let me interrupt okay in the past for a child to participate it was just across the board everybody did participate but they had to have permission from the parents in the future

009the way the law states and now for them to participate they have to opt into it I mean they have to say we want to take this class it's not just so everybody has has a class and then they opt out of the class it's an opt-in right okay we would still at that point have to have a permit like that was our own standard before even the state we would have the um the presenters would actually work with that PE teachers the different classes that they were sending in to capture those permission slips and even before they would be able to sit in the class they would have to have verbal permission from the parent if the kid forgot it sometimes I don't think sometimes I'll do forget but then they'll make the phone

010calls in order to be in there to make sure that they're okay to participate in the in the lessons we send out information ahead of time so the parents knew what would what they would be teaching it's not as in-depth as if when they were here coming in and looking through the curriculum so before that we did have it presented so the board years and years ago the board did approve the both curriculum so we were just going with that until the point where at least at the high school where we had covet then we just kind of put the brakes on those presentations the kids came away with a positive message they I I didn't hear anything from kids saying holy smokes that was crazy um they appreciated having that dialogue the conversation even

011if it made a difference in one kid it was a difference that was worth making so we appreciated having the presenters who were qualified in in giving that information and they were in there with a certified teacher in the class so it was a it was good having that the two different options as well so that that was just kind of in a nutshell how the experience at the high school was thank you all right good afternoon at the junior high level we were mostly connected with azyp we would have in the past we had azuip would come in during physical education classes students would have to again they'd have to have permission slips to participate um we would have a few students each time that did not participate and they had other activities that

012they were doing while the other students were in classes it went this the through azyp and actually I think I may need to have Crystal correct me on this but it seems like we went two weeks Crystal okay so two weeks that the students would have that every day in the class um and and again same thing that Mr Webb just said I didn't hear of anything that was concerning to students they were positive messages it was information on making healthy choices you know as far as the as far as any concerns I had I did have last year I did have a parent that asked prior to prior to the students going through the class if she could look through the curriculum and we had it out for the parent and she looked through

013it and and didn't have any issues with you know what we were teaching but I just had the one parent that had requested information on it but as far as the classes went they were more just based on making positive healthy choices thank you anyone else like to Express an opinion as to year and air or which one they like the best hello again my name is antenna me and my husband have been here for the past few meetings and our goal is just to inform the board and to inform the teachers that are here and the parents the truth that we have found in what is going on in our society today and that that's our one main goal is because our our world is coming to a point where it's just so corrupt

014and so that that is the reason why me and my husband have have been here um it's to express our concerned and our concern on these curriculums have additional material which could easily be viewed they couldn't easily be viewed the videos couldn't easily easily be viewed the PowerPoint slides and then just discussions that can come up some of which when evaluated were very inappropriate our biggest concern is that these curriculums appear to have some of the comprehensive sex ed material that is very dangerous to our children and we want to encourage everyone here to look into the history and background and agenda of comprehensive sex education again there's a documentary that was put out called the mind polluters um and that is the mind polluters which we encourage everybody to look up and watch you

015can watch the trailer you might be able to find the full documentary online if anybody is interested we do have that video if you want to view it um and then again comprehensive sex sexuality.org there's also a 10 to 10 minute trailer and 35 minute trailer on how it's been radically pushed into the schools and the and in this country and other countries around the world and then Dr Alfred Kinsey the demented doctor that abused children and also used sex offenders and rapists for his um to author his comprehensive sex education once people find out what kind of graphic and inappropriate and explicit material is included most everybody quickly and completely rejects it therefore we encourage the school board and everyone here to look up comprehensive sex education and the dangers of how it attempts

016to normalize sex and sexualize our children and groom them for predators and get them sexually active and get them to question um gender or whatever else it may be their sexuality therefore our vote is for no sexual education curriculum for this go around I just we just feel that we could do we could do better and we can find something that's better and um just thank you for your time thank you I appreciate Mrs Santana yeah I looked up those things you did and it scares you to death doesn't it so thank you next hi my name is Pam Williams I have two children here at Blue Ridge High School um I'm a Conservative Christian I have these conversations with my children however many children don't get the chance to have these conversations with their

017parents they don't have engaged parents um I received a letter from actually a Blue Ridge student the other day I'm going to read just a little piece of it and leave out the names in this letter it says hello I'm a student at Blue Ridge High School in Lakeside Arizona we've had some problems that are not being fixed in our school and it's putting students in an uproar at our school this person will call him Bob is an 18 year old male and keeps sexually harassing tons of minors including inappropriate non-consented touching that death threats for nudes enforcing minors to do other related things and the only and I'm just going to leave off at that part of the letter this letter goes on and the reason I bring this up is the curriculum we're

018talking about with Navajo County teaches about consent prevention of teen Dating Violence I really feel like this education would help our children be safe and then I just had a question am I allowed to ask a question okay okay so just very importantly I'm going to ask this because I feel like it's um something that a lot of people are kind of skirting around so does your curriculum teach um anything like gay sex or abortion um so I can answer that first for Navajo County Public Health um for your first question no we don't talk about that in our curriculum the only thing we mention is that no matter your sexuality if you do have sex you're at risk for STIs or pregnancy and then no legally in the state of Arizona we are not

019allowed to present abortion as an option or talk about abortion okay hello yes um I'll speak with Arizona Youth partnership for choosing the best and no gay sex is not mentioned in the curriculum and again we are not able to talk about abortion with the Arizona laws okay okay so um you were my son's sex ed teacher and I just wanted to say uh thank you I appreciate your leadership with our youth all of you guys I really do appreciate you um me and my son were able to talk after me and my daughter as well it opened up some really good conversations for us so I am for this curriculum and I would choose the Navajo County curriculum and thank you thank you appreciate your input she said why is she get your situation

020no no thank you hi my name is Danielle and I have a son who does not attend school yet but he will one day and I did hear a lot about the concerns about the Navajo County Public Health curriculum which really surprised me I'm familiar with the curriculum and I was shocked that a community would have such an issue with an abstinence-based sex education and healthy relationship curriculum for an opt-in class so I decided to dig in a bit more and see if I was missing something I am a politically conservative Evangelical Christian mother who has a Biblical worldview when it comes to sex marriage love and relationships I believe that parents are the number one Educators in a child's life and should have the authority to choose what their child learns in a public-funded

021school I believe this is an extremely important topic and parents should be the Frontline Educators with the top with these topics with that being said I believe this curriculum should stay in the classroom specifically in Navajo County Public Health many children do not have parents who discuss these topics they may provide a basic anatomy lesson but they do not educate their children about the consequences of pornography premarital sex teen pregnancy and relationship abuse this curriculum provides us I believe you can be an Evangelical Christian and politically conservative person and still teach from this curriculum I do understand the Panic though I follow many social media accounts highlighting the attack on children's sexuality in schools I watch videos of teachers and School staff encouraging gender reassignment studies hiding personal information from parents and even defending pedophilia

022I understand how children are being preyed upon and groomed in this in our society but this is not that type of curriculum it is the opposite they do not encourage or teach gender non-conformity or alternative sexual activities they do include basic information like STDs can be spread through hetero and homosexual activities because some kids truly do not understand that this is an abstinence-based opt-in class I personally am glad that one day I can have these conversations with my children and it will be reinforced in the classroom we should be not we should not be against education that will reduce STDs relationship abuse and pornography addiction once again just because you may believe your kid does not need this education it does not mean that other kids will not benefit from it not every child has

023a parent who will answer these questions or teach these topics reducing negative Health outcomes will create a stronger more resilient Community for our children I believe we should continue to allow navo County Public Health curriculum in the school thank you appreciate your being prepared silence is a killer president Merrill board members and staff thank you for your time today choice I think that's exactly what it comes down to here you've got a choice to choose one the other or none I like the way the system is where there's both because that allows if you choose that you allow parents then to choose the parent has the option to choose to send their student through the curriculum a parent that doesn't want to do anything or doesn't want to talk or somebody doesn't want to talk

024only has to do nothing and their choice is heard you can't make the kid take the program if you choose to say no program then you're determining that no parent has a choice to put them through the program for that reason I think it's easy to understand that offering the choice to parents allowing parents to make the decision for their students I believe is the best way to go thank you I have a question um both programs so apparent wants their child to take the class and they get him started in the class and then they think well I've made a mistake is it difficult to have them removed from that just they can just come out anytime they want to and if they're if they don't want to even have any information given to

025their child until you tell they're a senior in high school they can avoid all of these classes and that or they could take one as a freshman and then maybe one again as a senior or maybe one in a junior high and one is a junior so in high school so they get a different Viewpoint for a different age that's not that's not any problem is it um no so if a parent wanted to take their child out of the class that's perfectly fine just you know sending a note with the student or calling the school ahead of time so that we're aware not to allow the student in that class um and then yes they could take it at any time so you know if they didn't want to take it as a freshman

026and you allowed them to think it as a junior senior that's not a problem thank you how much parental involvement do you encourage other than I mean other than after you go home discuss this with your parents is there any uh pre notification this is what we'll be talking about today do parents have a a an outline with what each child will be going through every day and their child take the class we can use their information to the parents information to send them more about the direct outlines that each student will be taking so we have day by day you know outlines for each of our sessions so that's something that was mentioned last meeting that Navajo County is going to implement is apparent outline so that it can give them advance notice the

027subject matters for each lesson and they can kind of engage their student if their student is and engage them okay thank you I have a quick question um if if we choose to be able to have one versus other curriculums or whatever if a parent opts out what type of activities would the kids be doing and will it seem more like a punishment because you're sitting there having to write essays versus a you know like a leadership class or something so is that they're a positive outcome for kids that opt out we don't have that figured out yet that would be the application of it but I'm confident the principals will do something meaningful won't devolve into a study hall go in there be quiet field trips to McDonald's or something the Dairy Queen field

028trip but the specifics weren't able to offer those now then it will be a meaningful academic program in which they participate it won't be just sit down and be quiet because you're not in that it won't be punitive and it won't hurt their grade we'll just have to we're it'll take some time to develop that but the good news is we have time perfect all right any other input or questions hello president superintendent and the rest of the board and staff I'm Allison Heffner graduate blue ridge98 just saying alumni here um I am a patriot and a conservative in the community and I just want to say that thank you for taking the leadership and actually doing the steps to make sure that you can create an atmosphere where sex education is a possibility in

029Blue Ridge not a lot of the schools are stepping up like you guys did and it shows true leadership and I truly from the bottom of my heart appreciate that it's not easy superintendent Dr Wright what you've done with your staff doing this you did not take the easy Road you have a lot of information coming to you and some is correct about the curriculum and a lot of it is stuff that you find on the internet that really terrifies you mean you've said it seen it yourself I've seen it myself it's terrifying what's out there but to to put that aside and say we're going to do this for our kids she really shows how much Blue Ridge cares for their children and I really appreciate that um with the curriculum I'm extremely familiar

030with the Navajo County comprehensive program I did a keeping Kids Safe tour in 2016. I knew the person who actually picked out the curriculum she's we would call her the Bible thumping Baptist she was extremely conservative and went down to Phoenix to make sure that she was picking a curriculum that our community would accept and that's why it doesn't have the Riff Raff that you're seeing California push on their people the other thing that we don't have that these other urban areas have or the other thing we have that these other urban areas don't have is we have community and we have people that are in these positions in your school and in in our community that are smart intelligent conservative individuals that would never put any child in danger and I want you to

031know that I completely trust what your decision is I'm encouraging you to um though I like uh I I would vote if it was just one I would vote for the Navajo County comprehensive education I think comprehensive education has shown through and through how strong it is in reducing STDs and being number one and number two in Navajo County between Apache County and Navajo County we're actually number one for STDs chlamydia and gonorrhea we go back and forth with Apache County and usually the zip codes with the highest numbers don't have this type of education I do know that this education was in Holbrook for a very long time and they had the lowest teen pregnancy rate in all of Navajo County because they had the curriculums since I think it was two thousand or

032six or eight Amy could probably answer that don't quote me anyway um I do like the fact that you do have both curriculum I like the fact that the azyp is in the younger generation I think that the high school is definitely suited to um take that next step and really understanding how to keep themselves safe in the community safe in relationships hygiene keep themselves in a good place mentally and emotionally I mean High School is not an easy thing I have a 14 year old right now and it's it's definitely um it's definitely not the easiest thing to come into yourself so having a resource like that that encourages that support that parent guidance those parent values their value neutral both programs are value neutral they will not tell your child how to they

033should value something or where their Christianity or anything religious or anything they just tell them the facts and two if you need to put values with it you need to have these discussions with your parents it's incredible how much effort they put into bridging that gap between parents and child there are parents out there that educate their kids on sex but even in the world today that's hard to do do you see the things that you see on TV how to block your kids from that information it's terrifying how to figure out how do I talk to my kids about the different genders how do I talk my to my kids about this that I'm seeing on on Marvel so it really allows us the opportunity to learn from these courses they provide parent courses

034as well I personally think it's a no-brainer you allow the parent a choice how how perfect is that you give them a choice to choose what they want to do with their child and like my husband said previously if they don't do anything their child doesn't get it don't take parent choice away don't take sex education away we as a county need it so bad in our communities and I really really want to commend you guys for taking this route even though it's a little bumpy you guys are doing a great job so thank you thank you Allison you know I appreciate everybody not being long-winded that way more people get to express their opinions good evening to all thank you uh Mr Merrill for asking me to be on the committee I only got

035to go to one meeting a lot of great people there and it was not divisive people talk back and forth it wasn't real heated and that people were warm after the meeting I thought you know I mean some people were passionate um I I as I told you last time I've taught a Biblical base that said and I implemented a a curriculum parent request and most of them are Roman Catholic uh parents and they couldn't take their kids to Xavier Brophy or those types of schools they couldn't afford that and we made our own and it took about two years and we just used the uh really if you want to know the truth we use the state standards and uh when when after them in detail Reproductive Rights it eventually we added a thing

036on contraception and um we it worked out for us and it was you had to opt in and the nice thing about it was is we had math and reading uh you know these were sixth graders and we had math and reading and we put you in that uh because most of those kids had had lower scores than those in those in one of the areas and so that worked out well for us uh Dr Wright told us we couldn't uh you know like divisor on curriculum Blue Ridge couldn't and he told us the reason why and I hadn't studied the law and I've had a chance to examine it and I think the state has been very wise in making it difficult for districts to to just not willy-nilly add sex ed curriculums and

037once you approve it you can't change it you know easily you have to go through the process again and and I think they're wise yeah we live in an age suddenly where where terms don't mean the same thing they used to in the English language was under attack Choice means one thing to some people it means entirely different thing to another gender means one thing and I seems our Supreme Court Justices can't Define what a female with gosh I knew that about fourth grade I could Define that I say these things not to embarrass one side or the other uh gosh I'm 67 years old so I'm I'm not I'm not with it like a lot of young people but I can tell you one thing that if you allow something to get its foot

038in the in the door and I did see lgtp Q maybe I should say two-spirit LG tbq I plus uh doll I think is now one of the yeah you know I I I'm not I'm not into that and I want my children to be in it I don't want them to be schooled in it and I would opt out um I came because I was asked to by my minister to come here he knew I used to work for Blue Ridge and been in education and I came for that reason and um my opinion is just as good as the next guys I I would say after looking at the at both curriculums I came up and I looked at both of them and I don't know hour hour and a half looking at

039them and then I studied them at home of the two I liked I'm having trouble with the name I like the other one that was not the sex notes I I was not into that one and I probably looked at it at the hardest but I did like the other one of the two have if I had my choice I would I would pick none and uh I want to thank you for extending the opportunity to express my opinion and thank you all for what you're doing uh Blue Ridge is well served by your efforts thank you and I respect your opinion thank you takes it carries a lot of weight in my mind thank you very much in next hi I'm Poppy um so I also would not choose any of these curriculums the

040two that are here um I think they are based and in a troubled area maybe like a as it says for Correctional places or troubled youths possibly this is possibly may be okay for them I don't know but I think we could do better for our kids here that are not in a troubled environment I thought Public Schools were healthy kids but this is geared towards problematic kids and is that how we're going to treat our public school kids as problematic that's an issue for me so I say no to both we could do better than this I'm not saying not to have any structure but this is problematic it's there's so many things I've I've talked about it quite a bit in the last meeting um so I won't do that but I believe

041these kids will do well with a structure but not this this may be geared towards somebody who already has problems and that can invite problems through loopholes things we don't understand and I understand that this is a new thing kind of especially for Blue Ridge is that correct this these curriculums anyhow I that's what I understood no these aren't new you know we haven't taught any sex ed for three years and personally I think whatever decision we go with will probably stay in there for the next three maybe four years so if we choose no if we wouldn't have anything for the next couple of years if we chose to choose one of these programs and it would probably be there for three years the process to change is pretty extensive and the research is

042pretty extensive and you know it takes nine to 12 months to insert a new curriculum so that's kind of where I think the direction will have to go either no or yes and I think the savior in my opinion here is you don't have to do it I mean it's there and you can you can not let your kids go but I understand you're problematic I really do especially with kids some week kids are weak and any kind of idea and my one of my real concerns is that this not a this is not a recruitment for something and I think that's what your concern is as you're trying to say so appreciate that very much sure okay thank you you're welcome next anybody else like to say something hi I'm Stephanie burgo thanks for

043having us again I just want to Echo what has been said before about um if we adopt I am in favor of adopting both of these parents have the choice whether or not to participate if we don't adopt them parents don't have a choice so um that resounds strongly to me that we have the option of whether or not to have our kids participate in this and if they're not accepted then we won't have that option so that's I wonder say yay I agree with that thank you Stephanie I don't know if everybody knows Stephanie she dances she moved here from Alaska and she took a tour group I don't know all around the United States dancing so you know thank you for your interesting kids it shows next anybody else like to say something

044their last chance to say something no here we go I'm gonna start staring people down so you could come up and talk thank you good evening president members of the board and faculty I am a nurse and I live and work in this community my political and my religious beliefs are very conservative however I work with youth and I work with young adults and it frightens me the level of misinformation that they come in with and the things that they're putting themselves exposing themselves to risk wise largely because they're misinformed and I feel like when we teach children about their bodies about making wise choices about how to say no how to set healthy boundaries how to talk to their children or their parents about the questions they have and the things they're experiencing that

045that's really important but I see tremendously High rates of sexually transmitted infections I see tons of young girls coming in not realizing that they can say say no that they can have healthy dating relationships and set healthy boundaries and I think we live in a day and age where we're doing our children a disservice if we don't let them know the risks that are out there and how to protect themselves and because of that and what I see in the work that I do I would recommend that you consider the Navajo County program that is more comprehensive but also very conservative thank you appreciate your input I was just kidding about staring people down but we really would like all of your input hello my name is Alex Harris and I am the program manager

046with the Youth and Family Division of Arizona Youth partnership and I want to say thank you to the board and superintendent and president for allowing us to present all of the curriculums that we have here even with the the county and I want to come up here and also say thank you to all the parents for their input and thoughts on both of the curriculum I want to say that choosing the best the curriculum the Arizona partnership is offering we are excited for whatever decision you have to offer for this community and that this curriculum is sexual risk avoidance abstinence-based we appreciate your time and the energy that it takes to hold these meetings and your deliberation and I just want to say from a biased Viewpoint that I believe we should have this curriculum

047in the school district but we respect and appreciate any decision that you do make thank you again bored you any questions Jennifer can I just as a parent have a comment is that cool or do you want me to go down there okay so I'm speaking more of as a physical therapist so my specialty area in physical therapy is Women's Health and um and also I work in a religious standpoint with youth and then I also have a kids camp and I'm shocked at the misinformation with kids it really makes me sad I wish that we didn't have to have this discussion I wish that parents were more actively involved in their kids lives um as a physical therapist I had a a child that was experiencing sexual abuse but didn't know it she was

048told by her adult boyfriend that if she just laid there doing during intercourse that she was not sexually active and that she actually did become pregnant um I have had women that I work specifically with pelvic pain and I would say unless it was a botched surgery or issues with childbirth that the only other reason why they came in for pelvic pain was not because of a physical ailment it's because of trauma that happened and they were all sexually abused so I would say I've seen hundreds of women that are professionals that were sexually abused because of a lack of understanding especially when they were younger in their sexual relationships so for me if we could do a community rally and parents start teaching their kids really early I think that's what's most important right

049now in our community and I've heard it by probably about a dozen kids they're talking about and I'm going to get a little graphic the anal sex is not sex and so you can still be a virgin and get married and I have had to report multiple things with police because these are adult males or females I'm sexually abusing young children and it is scary and if we need to have these conversations with our kids no matter what I would prefer it always to be in the house and parents to talk but if we're not going to do that we need to create this like Revolution because we do not need to have any more of these questions where young children are being sexually manipulated and abused not understanding appropriate definitions and it would be

050nice if I didn't have a job it would be nice if I wasn't called because I have another 65 year old woman that finally is willing to talk about her sexual abuse that happened when she was younger and so it's something that's close to my heart I cry every day when I go to work and it's very emotional and it's because of lack of information so best case scenario in the home and I really have to contemplate and figure out what's the best best case scenario but it is rampant and it is tragic and kids need to know and not be manipulated and so that's um that's my standpoint so I take this very seriously because I'm also extremely conservative and I have children that have been diagnosed with learning disabilities so I've had some

051of my kids that I opted out where other my kids I've opted in or they opted in later and so that's just what as we as a board are trying to decide I'm not going to speak for the board but as a parent and a and a physical therapist and Community leader and a counselor for we had 1400 kids this last year that went through we need some help and I and I don't know what the best answer is yet we'll we'll have two months to figure it out so thank you for letting me talk about it Jennifer appreciate that information any other comments going once going twice it's been your last chance to speak up I do believe that any member of the board is open to a phone call or an email you

052know expressing your opinions that way and our emails are directly on the on the school side so you can contact any one of us that way so appreciate that we'll call this meeting to order I appreciate all those comments were given to us today you have one more nope we have heard from everybody that's going to speak I guess well

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