001I just finished basketball in there. reflect that uh all uh board members are present. Uh at this time we'll ask for public comments on uh agenda items only. If you didn't uh there's copies of the agenda be the time to ask any questions you may have about that. I'll take that as no questions. Um, and then next will be the approval of the agenda. I know we have a couple additions. They're non- voting items, but we do. So, new items under new business. None of them require a vote. Um, all three are reflected in blue on your sheet. And, uh, the first one we've added is item C, presentation of the optimist appreciation to the board. The second added item is D, an invitation to the board. Um, and finally, we've and that's from Westwood.
002And finally, we're approving batch number 10, but Joel Harvey revised policy number B 100 for us by request. So, we pulled that out of batch 10, and that will appear. Um, and batch 10 is a is a final reading. So, we're approving all of those policies. Since we pulled that one out and it's been amended, we'll resubmit it tonight as a first reading and approve it in in March. So that would be the third um addition and that would be policy D 100 um added to item 3H. >> Make a motion to approve the agenda as amended. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Uh next we'll have the uh approval of the minutes from the last uh last month's regular session. Uh we were provided those minutes in our packets. Does anybody have any
003questions uh or amendments to those? >> I move that we approve the minutes as amend as presented. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> uh next we'll move on to item two. Uh that's the communications routine consent items. Uh reoccurring reports. Uh we have provided these uh in our packets. Does anybody have any questions? This will have be a personel report. >> Uh yeah, I will obtain or do we need to pull that out? >> Pull that whole pull that one out. Yeah, >> I'll pull I'll pull out the uh myself in the uh softball >> the whole Let's pull out the whole softball for me. >> Okay. >> So, we will pull out the uh softball positions. for the middle school. >> Yeah, for the middle school. >> So, I move we
004approve the routine consent items with the amended personnel report. >> Do I have a second? >> Second. >> I'm going to abstain from the personnel report as a whole. >> Okay. Um, so we will need uh all in favor be between Jamie, Nan, and Jackie. >> I Are you asking? >> Yes. >> Okay. I >> That'll pass three to zero. >> The next one will be uh the softball positions. And if we have a motion to approve those softball additions. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Once again, I'll abstain from those as well. All in favor? >> I >> that'll be a three as well. >> The next is the submission of monthly corporation extracurricular receipts and dispersements. Um, this is not a an approval item, but what it is, uh, it's a chance for
005us to ask any questions we may have on those expenses or things that Megan's prepared for us. Does anybody have any further? >> All right. Well, we'll move on then. New business. Uh, retiree recognition. None tonight. All right. Uh now we get into the good stuff here. We got a spotlight and I'll let Dr. Shoemaker take that one over as well. >> Thank you. So um every once in a while we have a student or a teacher um or a staff member that um achieves a great accomplishment and we have a Trojan award of excellence and tonight it's our honor and our privilege to recognize Aubrey Lab. So um wait hold on I got a lot of stuff to say about >> so so I'm going to ice you just for a little bit. I
006I want to read this. And and Aubrey is the second out of the three last three years that we've had a Lily award winner uh from Newcastle schools. So, we're very very very proud of that. Aubrey will graduate on May 31st with an exceptional weighted cumulative GPA of 4.8, almost rounded up to 4.8. She plans to attend Purdue University to pursue a 4-year degree in biomed engineering. She completed a paid summer research internship uh in physics at Indiana University Indianapolis, dedicating 30 hours per week to hands-on scientific research. She's served as the president of Junior Optimist International, treasurer of the National Honor Society, and a member of the math academic team. She's a varsity swim captain and recipient of the mental attitude award. She's also served as captain of the varsity golf team and earning
007the most improved player not once but twice. In addition to to that, she gives back to our younger students uh through swim lessons uh as an instructor at the Trojan Aquatic Club. Looking ahead, Aubria hopes to complete an MD PhD in medical scientist uh training program combining engineering and medicine to lead the future advancements in biomedical research and clinical practice. The Lily Endowment Scholarship recognizes not only academic achievement but leadership, character, and promise. Aubrey exemplifies all of these qualities. She represents the very best of Newcastle High School and our Trojan community. Aubrey, we're very incredibly proud of you. Your resilience, your drive, and your commitment to excellence inspire all of us. Congratulations on this well-deserved honor as Henry Countyy's Lily Award Scholar Scholar. Plus, I think um you were Debbie's brag one time and I
008you were my brag at Optimus. So, so that's good. I don't know that anybody else has had two brags. There you go. >> So, um well, I want to have you come up, but do you want to say anything or or >> you don't you don't have to. You can just you can just receive this and be brilliant. >> That's right. Good job. >> Where do you want to go, Kim? >> Right here. >> Great. >> Good job. >> If you if you were here for just that. >> I know. >> You're free to leave. Yeah, you are. That's That's That's awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks. >> You don't have to. I mean, I don't want to get my op. >> Who's coming back? Did you say >> Kelly? Sorry, I thought
009she might win the fish. >> Okay, >> she'll be right back then. >> Uh, next week, next what we'll do is we'll move on to uh the Optimus uh with Rex and Kathy Crabtree. At this time, you guys have the floor. On behalf of the Newcastle Indianapolis Club and the YMCA, we have a plaque we'd like to present to Dr. Shoemaker and the school board. Tomorrow night we will have our championship game starting 6 615 the fieldhouse. The boys will play first, the girls second. This is 61st girl 61st year for the boys and 60 and 27th year for the girls. >> Wow. >> Um we will give almost $2,000 worth of of uh awards tomorrow night. And the ones we're most proud of, we have out of our 87 86 kids, I think we
010said we have 60 kids that are going to get scholarship awards, 22 for all A's and 38 for all A's and B's. So, we're very happy with that and we're just uh >> we know without school corporation support we couldn't have the league >> and we just want to let you let you know how much we appreciate you. >> Well, thank you. Thanks for all you do. >> You want to borrow the camera? >> I've got for you. behind me, but you can't hear anything. >> Thank you. >> Very good. Thank you so much. >> And thank you for I you know I I went to an away game, girls away game, and you're in the in the stands. So, thank you for your participation and all the support you provide to our kids and
011programs. And Gail's son and grandson will be participating in that. Nick Nick is one of my teammates at high school. >> My grandkids do too. >> Yes. >> So, hey, crab trees. Thank you so much. Without your guys' support, we do what we do >> in symbiotic. I mean, we couldn't it. Yes. >> It takes a village. >> Indeed, it does. Thank you. Thanks so much. Yeah, >> thank you. >> Uh, next we'll we'll move on to uh the Westwood crew and the leader in me. >> Awesome. >> All right, come on up, guys. Um, I'm Kelly Cox. I have the privilege of being the principal at Westwood Elementary. I'm in my seventh year and we are on our fourth year of our leader inme journey. And I have some excellent students here who are
012going to introduce themselves. Well, three of them are. I've got a Theo and a Hank on the end who are our busy boys here in a minute. Um, but we have a special invitation to many of you here. And so you three, well, all of you turn around. Face the people you're going to talk to. >> There you go. Now you're backwards. We've got a one, two, three. Do you two need to switch? >> Probably. You get the order right there. Okay. All right. Go right there. And you guys start. >> Good evening members of the school board. My name is Benson. >> My name is Harper. >> And my name is Cooper. We are We are students at Westwood Elementary. >> We are excited to invite you to our leader in me leadership day
013>> on March 20th. >> This day is special because students are the leaders. The leader in me teaches us that everyone can be a leader. It helps us take responsibility for our learning and our actions. We learn how to set goals and make good choices. >> On leadership day, students will lead the school. >> We will give tours to our guests. We will share our work and our goals. >> We will also show how we use the habits every day >> like working together and respecting others. These habits help us in the classroom, on the playground, >> and in our community. We are proud of our school and our leadership. >> We hope you can come and celebrate with us >> and see leadership in action. Thank you for your time and support. We hope
014to see you on March 20th. >> That was very fluid. You practiced that. That was nice. That was very good. >> I don't know. There were a lot of oatmeal cream pie crunch. Maybe a cosmic brownie. Really good chicken legs. >> Very fluid. Well done. Well done. >> Okay. So then we have some special invitations written to you by some of our very own. Oh, you take that to Mrs. Okay, next you get this for the week. Thank you. >> Where's your name? >> Oh, wait. Yeah. Do you want to give some if you want the fancy invitation, too? Yeah. Dr. Okay, now hang on a second. We're not done. >> So, Theo and Cooper, >> have to share it. >> Okay, tell them the deal. What are we doing? >> We'll make a deal
015with you. If you can name all the seven habits, we'll give you five bucks. >> I got one. Synergy last year. >> Can anybody else get one? Synergy. >> Synergy. That's a good one. >> Give me five books in here. You can name all the habits. >> You know, I've got them all in my mind, but I'm one short five. So, >> can you can you tell me what they are? Can you work together and tell me what they are? Um, >> habit one, >> often. >> Habit two, >> begin at the end. Habit three. >> Habit four. >> Habit five understand. >> Habit seven. >> And for those of you who don't know, there is a habit eight, which is >> it's your mom's favorite. Find your find your voice >> and inspire others.
016>> Cooper, I want to thank you for allowing me to the opportunity to earn my $5 back. >> The best part was Theo actually wrote your um invitation there, Dr. Shoemaker. >> And he said he really hoped he could just put Dr. Shoemaker, give me $5 >> one day. One day. Did everybody up here actually get a real one? >> Thank you. >> And then I do have some wonderful members of my staff also. Crabree, she's our counselor. Michael, Megan, and Kaylee Oats. And they are all members of our staff leadership team. And so they they really run the show. So that's all and good things to them. >> Thank you. Put a chair up here. >> Theo, you can just sit right here, buddy. >> Well done. >> Good job, Thank you. >> Wow,
017the crowd's going to >> It is. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Well, next we'll move on to item E and that's Senate enrolled act one and update on Dr. So, um, we've got this as a placeholder and and when we've got an agenda that that avails itself, it's good to always talk about, you know, the things that are going to be impacted. And I think it came to the forefront when we're looking at a couple of corporations within the state that have recognized the fact that they need to make drastic cuts um, and have that's been in the press the last couple of days. So we we put this back on the agenda and it's been on there several times and you know we've we've already done some things proactively so that we don't
018have to um go down that path but we've already we've already made those cuts. Uh one of the things that we did and we're still adjusting to it. Um and that is uh custodians. We our night custodians we reduced um the numbers. We did not uh terminate anybody as a result of this reduction, but just through a cushion, we moved a lot of people to the daytime. We are hiring a a float um at night because we do recognize that some of the schools uh need a little bit more attention uh at night. So, especially some of our elementary schools and I believe we've got um two at the high school and one at the middle school. So, that will help us out a little bit. Uh but um and then the other thing is
019is and we've reduced some other positions. We reduced one year at the central office and uh one at maintenance as well. So as we have um vacancies, we're we're determining do we can we fill it? Can we fill it in a different way? Can we combine uh efforts so that we can save money. So it's it's a process and that way um we don't have to come in and say people are going to lose their their jobs. Um, the other thing that we're doing is is and and I'm I would we're looking at our facilities u for naming rights and I think it's good to get that out there. So if we're and we're evaluating that the board's evaluating that and and maybe some of the opportunities that lie within that um or sponsorships of
020some of our um future projects so through donations. So, we're we're aggressively looking at those things. And I think it would be good to be reflected in the minutes uh that that we're um you know, our facilities we're looking at for sponsorships. Uh and we're also looking at advertising um in in a in a couple of new ways and that would increase uh revenues to support our programs. So, that's pretty much it. I'm entertaining questions, but I think we've we've covered a lot of it in our one-on-one. So, this is really more for the public than it is for for the board. So, >> well, the the uh tables and the scoreboards in the fieldhouse look incredible. >> Well, good. I'm glad. >> Saturday at the game when this when the player went into them
021and it kind of fell apart, my husband about had a heart attack. >> So do I. >> But they look really good, >> they were fixed yesterday. I'm glad you like >> Yeah, it was just a housing. Uh they they pop off their like one by one uh one foot by one foot uh squares and they piece together and the housing that supports it got bent. >> Um so it sounds like they were able to pop those off real quick, pull it back out and >> get where it needs to. >> Do they need to have some kind of a barrier? >> We probably need to look at scooting them back probably a foot. That way it reduces the force of the impact and gives the players a chance to hit the floor first before
022the >> It's not going to be perfect probably, but You don't there's not much more room you can do about it. I mean that's just part of having that stuff. >> Yeah, sure. >> They're pretty durable though because smoked it and so the other kid >> smoked it by meaning hit it hard. I got you. I got you. >> Controversy. >> Yeah. >> Um next we'll move on to the update from Dr. Shoemaker on the HIKA or the Hooser Youth Challenge Academy. So, it was announced uh recently that that will be closing June 30th. Uh and that's after 19 years of operation. The Who's Your Challenge Academy is a a 22- week residential program for atrisisk youth uh for students all across Indiana and even some in Ohio. We generally take one to three students
023um uh from time to time uh from Ohio from from Western Ohio. So uh we currently have 95 students there and uh 35 34 more students are on our online programming uh for specifically for HIKA students that that um metriculate through the the the program. Um so there is a petition to keep the program going. It's been uh forwarded by a parent. I've not seen it um and um people are are you know welcome to participate in that. Uh we are um communicating with the National Guard. It is a very valuable program. It's one that's near and dear to all of us, I think. And so, I did speak with Senator Ross this morning and he was very receptive um to helping us and and work out possible alternate arrangements to keep the program going.
024So, want to thank him for his availability and uh um willing to to support our programming. So, um I'll keep you posted on it. And um we currently have two students from New High School that attend uh the program. So and and I would say it's it usually ranges between one and two uh every cohort. So you've got a um a fall cohort and a um a winter cohort. So any questions? >> Thank you. Uh next we'll move on to item G and that is the uh final reading of final reading of the uh new school board policies batch number 10 that's been provided to us. I should have said you know minus in in I should have adjusted it and just said minus um D 100. So I would ask that that is reflected
025in the minutes. I I apologize. >> Make a motion to approve as amended. >> Second. >> All in favor? I >> I >> uh next we will go over the part uh part H of the first reading for D 100. So we worked with Joel Harvey on adjusting the um the wording and if you've got a copy of it, it's in yellow. And so if there's any questions, then you can talk about that within the month before we look at any approval of B 100. The uh strikeout above it is what was hidden out in replaced by the highlighted part. >> No, no vote is needed. >> All right, any discussion or any questions on that? All right, we'll move on to uh legislative uh update and I'll turn it over to uh Mrs. P.
026>> Thank you, Mr. Lee. Um there's several bills that um well there's still 36 I think bills according to the ISBA that affect let um school boards um some that I would like to call attention to. The first one is Senate Bill 76. This bill will directly impact schools, bringing significant risk and cost to all Hoosiers by mandating that ICE and Border Patrol agents have access to our public schools, universities, and local government agencies or be sued for $10,000 per violation. Um, it doesn't really put any limit on what that access is. So, that's kind of a it's very broad. Um, that's Senate Bill 76. Uh, Senate Bill 239 um allows multiple school conversions under one charter, allows multiple charter schools under one authorizer, and would allow governies to convert all of its schools into
027charters with no local accountability. There are several of these that do away with um democratically elected local school boards and um expand um the availability of charters. So that's Senate Bill 239. Um Senate Bill 204, you're writing these down. Um allows charter licensed teachers easier access to state license. Any individual with a bachelor's degree and a 3.0 GPA now has a pathway to becoming a licensed teacher without additional training or education. So that's again um lowers the bar a bit. Um, Senate Bill 88. Um, this allows um, let's see, public curriculum including instruction on the Ten Commandments and restrict restricts discussions about racism, sexism, and classism. Um, so actually some of that bill was removed, but they're thinking that it might be putting back in amendments. And we just think that um just things to
028be aware of if we favor one class of people over another class of people, it's a slippery slope. So, um this one I want to pay particular attention to. It's House Bill 1423. Um, and this specifically is the one that changes IPS, our largest school system in the Well, I think it's one of the largest. There's another one that's almost as large, but um to being an appointed board um it creates a newly elected corporation and it is an appointed board and gives it authority over public school funding and referenda. Um, so it takes away local control and local accountability. And they had another bill for South Bend that was did not get out of committee. Um, and they also did a similar thing last year to union and they put the bill into the
029budget rather than having it going through the committee process. So, the idea of doing away with locally Democratic elected school boards is out there and it's growing and um the House Education um chair actually said that this could be used to help consolidation in the future. So there's some yeah some things going on that could be problematic. There's one more and I can't somebody may be able to help me where with schoolboard elections now it says that it may be partisan but they are arranging the way that they um the um deleg the people are going to be elected. help me out there. >> Candidates, thank you very much. Um that those that are running under party will be first, >> those that are um independent will be second, >> those that are nonpartisan will
030be last. So, it really is being differential to those that are declaring a party because if you're last listed, >> you're less apt to be chosen. It's just >> right >> the way it goes >> rather than alphabetical >> because now it's alphabetical. >> So >> objective. >> Um that's all I got. >> Well, thank you for that update. Uh as she said that stuff is uh important to know about and you know that's something that I not pay a lot of attention to. Um but that's why that's that's you know the first strengths uh on this on this board is keeping us more informed because what happens is now we go dig into that and get to form our own opinions and and what we think. So uh very important to know what's going
031on and we appreciate that update. >> Um so next we'll move on to Mr. McDaniel with the transportation grounds and all the other fun stuff. >> Fun stuff. Yeah. the uh the buses are running and uh we made it through the uh the month of January. Um we we stumbled through in some ways uh through January, but we made it through. So uh thankful for all of the work that was done, especially by our maintenance department, our custodians worked tirelessly to prepare our buildings for students to return uh after that big snow. Thankful for all the work that they did. Um for uh maintenance projects or operations projects, we have the career center roof will actually begin in March. Uh we were able to get them moved up to March. That's one of those pieces
032that after we saw what happens uh when I sits on that roof too long, especially as much as we had, it makes sense to get them in there as quick as we possibly can. The restroom project over uh by the football field is moving along really well. Uh drywall is up. Uh they are actually working on tying in electrical uh in the next week. So excited about that update that we'll have in that case. Bless you. And then um the high school restroom project, still waiting on those additional doors to come in uh for the other side of the restrooms, but otherwise the punch list is being completed in that project. And uh other than that, that's all for me. >> All right. Next, we'll move on to the superintendent report. >> So Raymond has
033a lot of pictures for us here. So, um, you've been taking a lot of pictures, so I'm going to go fairly quickly. So, the first the first, uh, picture is of the, uh, junior varsity and varsity, uh, team and at the Rose Bowl. I want to thank the Rose Bowl. They're always great supporters for us and, um, great work on coach with coach loose and the team. Um, oh, I guess >> there it is. >> Okay. Uh, having some fun uh, bowling there. Uh, so >> where am I aiming here? >> Just aim towards the screen. >> There you go. >> I'll just click for you. >> Oh, he's looking. >> You're doing it. >> I checked the battery earlier. Fine. >> All right. Uh, instrumental instrumental solo and ensemble. We had 40 gold and
034silver 12 silver awards. That's more than the whole Olympics. So, good for good for that. Uh, seven students advancing to the state. Congratulations to Mr. Edwards, Mrs. Juan, and students. >> Did you do that or did I? >> I was just gonna lay it down. >> Sorry. >> So, that's all right. Vocal solo and ensemble. Um, next we've got um and this is from the Isma Middle School and High School. 31 gold ratings, eight silver ratings, five perfect scores led by Mr. Hutchinson and Mr. Strain. Congratulations. >> Wow. Red Hot Blues that was in uh wait I'm I'm looking for there's Dynamics. Okay. All right. Good. I got the picture. Um so uh Dynamics that was uh at Anderson and it was called The Showdown. Uh they got outstanding performer Ros Gibson. Best uh Univoice
035vocals, best overall vocals, best stage crew, and first runner up under the red hot blues. We got outstanding performer uh Maya Chambba and second runner up. And next we've got winter percussion. Well, they're looking good there. Um and that's uh that was at the Northview competition junior high festival silver uh junior high school festival. We got silver 74 points open class 71 points strong opening scores in the 70s. is a big improvement over past season. They directed by Becca Wand student recognition. Uh the following people uh got were recognized. A Aiden Strain, Dana Deep, Ethan Casease were all recognized by their students for their creativity. Alice in Wonderland, we had 38 middle school students performed and participated. It's a growing drama program uh in Bundy and it was directed by Lindseay Taylor headed to semi-state.
036Congratulations coach Black and Aiden Flowers, Tylen Thrine, Nate Schaffer, Trent Superer and Darren Reynolds. They are going to semi-tate. Semi-state's going to be here in Newcastle on Saturday. Congratulations to all of them. the next slide. >> Did we get the It was the one added. >> Okay. So, uh this is the uh middle school uh 2024 middle school review champions. First out of 16 teams with 184 points. Way to go middle school team. >> That's That's fantastic. >> A lot. >> No. All right. Well, I'm gonna add in there he had a picture, but um Carter Marsh was a middle school student that um won state. >> So, fantastic for him. Congratulations. We've got a lot to look forward to. We do have a picture someplace, but maybe we'll get it on next time. Well,
037thank you. >> And we've got a tours. Uh so, students explored full feed productions at Keystone Legacy Feed. They learned about grain, swine, animal nutrition, energy, aronomy, and thanks to Sarah Mohouse, Caitlyn Lacy, and Colt Rudolph. Next, we've got 101 days of school celebrated with Dalmatian theme. Oh, that's really cute. And that is at Riley Elementary. At Parker Elementary, we've got a principal for the day. Ren Gil Gil raised $1,000 for a fundraiser. Wow, that's fantastic. served popcorn and posit positive leaders and conducted classroom observations. Wow. Congratulations to Ren, future principal in the making. Um, ASL deb blind. Didn't see that one. Surprise, surprise. So, that was that was fun. I just kind of stumbled on it in uh the uh high school. And good job uh Rama for for always bringing activities to life.
038Um, it was a three-day empathy challenges simulating death blind experiences. Student completed daily task with uh without sight or sound. Um, so a lot of laughs and giggles there >> Roa and Arte. Okay. Yeah. >> All right. >> We've read something. Spanish one students minor creative fa fashion design Spanish 4 uh glazed ceiling tiles leaving their legacy in their mark. Very cool. >> Yeah, >> you can tell I didn't take the class. So, limbo physics. Um that's at Westwood Elementary. Students explored center of mass and velocity while skating led by PE teacher Stephanie Irwin. Physics and motion. AH um AHC student art show. Uh and that is at the high school. 25 uh Newcastle High School students were honored. Annie Joplin was best of show. Multiple first, second, and awards of distinction winners. Draven Hendricks
039recognized at the award ceremony. And next slide, graduates give back or a graduate gives back. Um career center alum Tom Farmer spoke to students about his journey to become an electric lineman. >> Very cool. Uh, so I that's that's it I think. Yeah, >> I'm bringing up that slide of the state champion. Okay, McDaniel got it added in. >> So, next we'll have Carter Marsh. Carter's an eighth grader. >> While he's doing that, I wanted to thank and and I should have taken this opportunity at the time. Um, well, we'll we'll give Carter his due here. >> That's impressive. >> Cool. >> And in the picture, he kind of looks like he was like, I knew it. >> This is like class. No surprises here. >> Yeah, told you. >> I don't know him that
040well, but you know, no surprises. Next year. Next year. Um, but what I was going to say was, um, Aubrey's family, um, the Morris family has donated a nice donation to the physics department. Um, and that's I should have mentioned that when they were here. Um, but it's it's one of those things where it's always nice to get donations and support from the community. And um, shout out to to her and the family for donating to our physics department. I also want to um acknowledge um like Mr. McDaniel the uh the the staff members that that participated on the snow team um and that was snow removal team. It's not as glamorous as the snow sliding down the hill kind of a stuff but necessary and I really want to thank them because um they
041make it possible for us to get to school and to be safe. So um thanks for their hard work. That's it. >> All right. So, next we will move on to our budget and that is the transfer from the education fund uh to the operations fund. I'll turn that over to Megan. >> And real quick before I do that, um just to notify the board to this morning was um the last item I submitted for our corporation audit, we do a bannual audit every two years. Um we're in the the midst of that and um the last item that I submitted for review has been acknowledged. So within the next two to three uh weeks, we'll probably do an exit conference and get that feedback from them and any findings and so forth. So we'll
042report that back to you guys once we hear more. Moving on to the transfer. So for the month of January, uh the transfer from the education funded operations fund came out to $330,000. I move to approve the transfer of $330,000 from the educational fund to the operations fund as presented. >> Second. >> All in favor? I >> uh next we have public questions or comments. >> Thank you for moving the board meeting tonight. If you have nothing to do, we got two middle school girls games going on tonight. >> All right. Well, meeting adjourned. I don't know how shorts.