001e e e yep yep yep sorry just bringing it he's getting to the agenda in bringing it up all right uh I'm calling the governing board advisory committee to review policies on April 23d 2024 to order welcome uh first agenda item is is agenda item number two um so I I move that we approve the agenda as presented except um moving it item number five to occur before item number four all those in favor motion passes so uh can I get a motion to approve the modified agenda moving forward word I move to approve the modified agenda second all those in favor motion passes all right uh agenda item number three is a call to the audience do we have any calls to the audience I'm guessing not nope okay uh so next is agenda
002item now number four formally known as number five which is prepare a presentation for the governing board meeting and or Community Council um this is on Thursday so we're hoping you could give us an update on what you got okay um I don't know if I can send that oh I don't it's not a if you guys go into the um someone who has a iPad you share with okay because I don't sh I think it's looks like it's shared already there we go she's got back up so I got was able to get from Hilda the template that the district uses um and then I was like oh it's a pretty long name for us governing board advisory committee to review policies student conduct and discipline but does that look adequate correct okay cool
003um and then on the next slide I think that's the part where I would need a little more help as far as like the verbage and making sure like um so I I don't like the title long like that but um so what I think I went back to the August 1 meeting I think that's when Sophia first brought it up and so I was trying to like listen what to like what like her reasoning was and trying to put um put that in there so um to update outdated policies align with the we're doing now or that the board's doing now um and um make it consistency across all the district schools and kind of removing and I'm not sure what words would be best to use criminal justice or slash Correctional type language
004um so does anybody have any feedback on this slide you want wanted a shorter title yeah advisory committee purpose or are you like purpose of committee here we go oh are you doing it or yeah I'm sorry I thought I okay sorry I was like it doesn't matter because people are gonna see your edits too I was just thinking my mind okay yeah okay yeah I just can't it's called stream it um and then should I um what do you what do you think sounds better leave Criminal Justice or use Correctional I technically we're correct trying to correct carcer there you go that's word incarceron Inc carceral no I in it's like oh carero okay you do that is that a word carceral s like incarceration referring to the nature of a prison um I
005do want to clarify though it I mean we can't we are not removing all of that language because there are some places where legally we have to retain it so I think it I think In fairness we need to be fair with what our scope can include in describing our purpose we're allowed or we're able all right I can play around with the wording um um and on the second bullet it's actually it's aligning with work that both the board and the district are doing now oh okay perfect do you know when the last time the policy reviewed because update outdated policies it be nice to say policies last you know the the policies we're reviewing were updated at different times oh okay some of them say adoption of the manual or we could just
006put update policies instead of outdated outdated makes sense I thought it outdated makes a lot of sense because in some cases the policy has been updated like possibly within the last year okay what it was updated to do was reflect the change in statutory language but it's never been updated to reflect the change in Direction it's still updated because it doesn't allign work should we maybe put on here two reflect what was the word you said reflect direction or just you have it the true all right cool um I have more of a a cosmetic um friendly Amendment there um uh each bullet starts with like a verb update a line removing can we delete four and just say consistency across all our school create or create and yeah create just as long as it's
007all verbs yeah just do resume okay second you want to do introduce the first and then go through the purose um ining okay what do you guys think I think that's a good idea that's how most presentations start with so deal deal all right so let's go to that slide because I'm sorry I didn't know Megan's last name or Adams um and I wasn't sure how you know because I mean yes James you're assistant principal but you're so much you've been so much more than that in the district I don't know if we want to how much details we want put in there I'm sorry Alan I didn't know your title yeah I I don't know it seems a little showy um I I'm fine with assistant principal okay I think that would be okay
008that reminds me of those I get emails where they have like you know Joe Smith creator of this director of that there's like a whole laundry list of monikers that go beyond thatti um specify for Daniel and Megan middle school or I'm okay with just teacher Gateway oh wait she's not Gateway she's m WT M right and that makes me create an academy parent say that again oh valades okay thank you you are you sure just kidding oh no it's not common add at the end of mine and Schoolboard candidate please sign my petition put a little QR code off to the side there QR code scan this although I did um s Adriana and I had a chance to to talk about you know she was helping me with the slide and I was
009like ah you know as a parent sometimes the community council there's just a lot of things to like scan or forms or papers and I'm like let's try to avoid any of that if we can but um so yeah no QR code to my campaign actu funding page but but I mean that's something to discuss too do you guys think should we include on here like when we get to the part guess we could go to that part to the um to confir for him like what Our intention was um and so we had that conversation about like what information are we really getting and it felt countering this probably a you question it felt premature to start talking to them about like here's what we're thinking about changing because it should be going to
010the board first to like make sure that they're okay with it before we do that um and you about that question and so his thought about like in terms of what parents could talk about like what their conversation would be is like is there anything else they want to could see um be clearer in our policy so not so much like yes I don't want my kids suspended for 10 days without XYZ but I want to see more clarity on this policy or something like that a very Brad thing [Music] so that way they are not giving we're not asking for specific feedback on changes we have made nor are we asking for them to clarify what they want I imagine the conversation end up being like I want to know what the school's doing
011about bully I want to know that's the big one I'm kind of keying in on what you're saying Mr Man and um I wonder if maybe there should be a brief explanation about you know what is policy and what does it mean and how does it affect your family and your child because most people have no idea how profound of an effect policy has I mean even teachers nine times out of ten they have no idea how much it does affect their daily lives so should we add a slide about like a what is policy just like a brief little description I think definition the purpose of the committee and then the next slide would be like what what was the committee talking about and I could be around that so what is policy guys
012to is it polic oh so maybe before we we'll bring that slide up and then just kind of do a brief like you why what exactly is policy what does that mean why do you care these are these are basically the things that drive how we respond to yeah well you right I'm just gonna start putting in the order the things it could be even something you don't necessarily have to put it in a slide could be like in the speaker notes yeah so then whoever the speaker is can be uh have something ready to go there the two biggest complaints we get a lot of J not gonna be a problem with policy right not enough Evon he's so good at them one thing that froze me off maybe it's just I'm confused on
013there interpreter and I think sometimes the get add because doing English and Spanish when interet well he is The Interpreter can no he not we're trying to fix that The Interpreter should be in the of but all of the slides are supposed to didn't do we or I can it'll be hard to read but put it all on yeah both languages one SL I typically split this typically create problem otherwise yeah the um sorry that's the I noticed like I thought for some reason I thought he was The Interpreter maybe once he I saw him interpret okay maybe I just saw that one time inter right The Interpreter calls for some reason and I think he did it in both languages at the beginning because he couldn't stand back of the room and interpretation he
014was presenting so he was presenting and then the head okay all right so I made that note a good thing I know Spanish so I can um bying I this it'll also be another right I hate that guy make sure that's in the notes please got it down got it down oh there you go all right so does it as far on the slide we're on now the policies oh wait I'm looking at tell me which slide you went to there you go uh slide number five policies reviewed so far does that look like we got it I think that's well I do want to clarify that we are not finished with um jic and jikr we're still in the middle of that okay so we'll finish that tonight heard but um I don't think
015it matters if it's not done I think the purpose of the slide is should be these are the topics we're working on yeah which is fine I I'm just I well whatever if that's the purpose I just figured yeah because you'll see I just want to make sure that we're clear right okay because this the the title policies reviewed so far kind of gives a finality to the review process of them but that's okay again no I think as long as it's explained I think I think it can be explained presented cool and then so that looks like all of them I'm sorry um we still on flop five um so then let's go move on to six we're only on five because we think that that's correct but we're asking for a second I
016these are the ones that everybody remembers that we've reviewed or been working on thus far yeah and let's make sure there aren't any missing there aren't complet either um and then six but I think we should pause on this because there was a discussion you and I had yeah that will'll bring that up at the next on the next when we get to number four so then let's skip slide six because okay he did worth that might impact this slide okay all right and slide seven next steps um we're gonna have to skip back up to timeline I skip that one so next steps um I can so on the the governing board the May 7th governing board meeting we're all right we're doing a presentation about what our work has been um at some
017point there needs to be a first read and then a second read so we we not know when those are when we're planning do we not have a sense of when that's happening or to me the biggest missing casor I haven't seen and I missed last Mee so I I haven't seen fin policy ready the attorney we got a chunk of them to review today to finalize review today so unless we got butchered I was well I was gonna give them to her I thought just if there's a chunk that finished off even I make sure they some okay yes ma'am have on April 30th they rescheduled it and I see that that's on our next agenda also on the not from the our next next step [Music] do we need to reschedule ours or
018what's going on as special I don't join that committee but you you is that not one of yours so we should be fine yeah the but I mean I could probably ask one of continue this meting just let's talk with Yvonne because I wonder where the continuity should be and I feel like the continuity should be like the translation as as opposed to transcription but we'll talk to him and see interpretation so next steps does that also look good are anybody say anything needs to be added or removed no okay so let's go to okay so again so I asked about May 7th is just a presentation of the board of the work we've done but are we but we're not presenting for first read at that point or that's going to depend on when
019the attorney's finished revie I can almost gue so when I thought about there doesn't necessarily need to be the there for the first read correct so the presentation just next steps of the work so the presentation that we in discussion about this and how we're going to use it as also like a foundation for our governing board presentation um we were not anticipating a first read but what we were instead thinking is on the slides five well basically Slide Five as opposed to just being a list of what's been reviewed it would be like the title would be students rights responsibility um and then we'd have maybe like two columns that would be like thing like either things that were taken out or like things that we brought in so they it's not going to
020be taken out like that that just feel that feels like a very bulky presentation so the Bullet would be removal of Statute things that were added restorative practice verbage like that's as much as it was going to be we're not going to go detail at all it would just be like this is a big chunk or like rights and responsibilities redefined rights and responsibilities um and so then it's just going to be a cut and paste of this basically so maybe the word finished the problem present policy um should we just say present progress policy progress committee progress okay yeah because I wasn't sure I was like know is that like our due date or what's like we talked at one time about doing first 7th and second grade may but we do also have
021two board meetings so given yeah given the pace and sort of where we're at my advice would be it would be better to be and have the adoption take place in June and try to rush it for S and then have people look at it and go this is M I mentioned at the last meeting that we may not yeah that's the other thing too there may be a point at which it's like we're only able to get through this for this year and that doesn't mean that the work has to stop it just means that's all that will be improved go I don't remember if it's a conversation I had with you when we were looking at the reviews you made or if it was conversation we had here but I thought the idea
022that instead of being like this was changed to this it was going to be like here's the old policy and here's the new policy and there wouldn't be discussion okay typically tradition what's provided to be provided is they typically provide what's called theform where it shows whatever's been removed is crossed out and shows whatever's added okay instruction c t but that's tradition okay so who prepares that that's question and may something and I can ask it may something attorney I part of I don't know that all of that's done manually there is a feature that is built into word put in there so us time the feature is a comparison feature Mar changes yeah that's why that was added was to allow I used to do Consulting okay so so I think able when they're
023doing what we have to send them is the original policy suggest CH CR that's all left and it's to attorney okay thank you Katie that feels like that's a lot of work appreciate that so that's what we were saying would be next steps do you want us to add I know we added the attorney review we changed present committee progress um I don't I don't know this these ones are technically they per they're these two are most pertinent to the governing board so I don't know if we want to hold those until we have the governing board meeting um because like the teach the parents don't necessarily need to know that we're like we'd like to through I was even wondering do we need any of those sub bullets okay on the slide because it's
024just it's more text to Mudd just muddy up the message oh but I think you wanted to keep the slide just not the bullets oh how did I do that sorry good contr yes ma'am and then I'm just gonna put the subs you wrote in the notes okay so that was it this was just going to be very quick these are the policy feels very align the only thing the only other thing that no we didn't look at slide four timeline but I'm not sure so so that was you know like those because I don't have the dates of like when the committee was formed I don't know if we want to put do we want want this slide like um you know the dates that we did meet I don't know if we need
025that I think we saw the first meeting was September 8th and maybe we could just say September 8th I always get this confused by monthly because it's twice a month or is it by weekly every other week I could probably go back actually by monthly because bi-weekly sometimes and could include three times in a month depending how the weekfall the week fall so winess T reason no no I mean I know from having sat in some meetings and when they put the timeline On's so okay yeah no one's going to check the calendar and be like actually I see was by [Music] monthly especially given that we've taken that extra step to be able to work outside of the meeting links well Nicole has a slide eight too um this is like the only part
026that's really like would this is are we giving them opportunity to discuss which was yvon's recommendation but we could put the little QR code here so it's like look at the policies and give us a public comment oh yeah sorry I had that that was my question about slay how would they I mean I the email part to Hilda that makes sense but the in-person part is that would that mean at that point in the community council people would stand up and talk no oh you know what it's not clear but I can clarify it because at our 4:30 meeting at the April 30 if you read the line above on the slide it's public comment at the 4:30 committee meeting and then she's giving you sub bullets a two ways to give that oh
027so I can put public comment can't be and I totally misunderstood that I I assumed that because I guess Ivonne was talking about a QR code for a Sur did I misunderstand that he was asking about a QR code for a survey at Community Council he was not he was saying that would be good to have discussion with the families and so giving them an opportunity to talk about what we just said and then like give us like their General thoughts but we never discussed that together so I kind of like bringing that to the board but what Mr Man was saying in terms of a QR code is it'd be nice to provide them the QR code to view our cleaned up files probably and then they could give comment about what they've seen
028to our meeting committees so that's so this 430 committee meeting is is that the governing board or is that us your meeting I I feel like that should be more clear because I'm like what meeting is that how do we put April 30th governing board advisory committee yeah that'd be great and they could submit it through however they want in person okay that makes sense so then we should include a QR code with the link to the view only modified but well so we need be thought because what they have access to now is like our messy stuff right and and at this point in the game if if I were a Community member I I wouldn't be able to process any of the messy stuff right now the cleaned up stuff lives in the
029folder that that's not inside that folder so I don't think they have the direct access it's in our main fold yeah it's like this so we need to figure out what folder we're giving them access to because we can give Marita only access to the folder I created that has all the cleaned up stuff in it I was about to make a QR code to that folder so that would be my vote is we just rechange it from Alan yeah you yes we can rename it from my mine I just need to be able to find my folder now is that any kind of like I don't know open meeting law violation type of thing it so you're working in it without others outside of the meeting without so this perfect so looks good is
030that is the QR code made or needs to be made Adan is making it right now um all right and the entire world is watching you do it on YouTube right now I'll do it okay so I think we got all the names correct we got purpose I'm GNA go ahead and make make this dual language bilingual was there what was there a date when like the committee was like formed or like approved or I asked I had asked Hilda and she said at the August 15th meeting but I didn't see an August 15th meeting on YouTube so I don't know if that was just like an executive session or was a meeting I remember when sop brought it up the agendas because I found the meeting August 1st when Sophia first and then the
031foll I oh okay is there anything else we need you need us to review on this so it's just is there any feedback that You' like like edited or are we good with that and then do we want to go as far as like identifying ing speakers per slide how would you like to do that how do we want as everybody take turns talk in or just leave it to a couple people I do think that in these kinds of forums having too many different speakers becomes jarring and and interrupts the flow of of the message okay and I mean since I've made it I don't I don't mind talking in front of a group so I'm happy to do it um I don't know if we want to tag team up with two of
032us or just one I don't I think I mean Optics wise I think it would be good to have a parent be one of the speakers so I I think that's a great idea yes it's definitely OB okay it not only has the item but it actually has it shows okay so formed 2023 do you want to present and then I can answer questions for you with you sure okay and the sorry just to clarify so the first committee meeting was September 28th is that no I think it's September 1st I can look I don't know if I should look at my calendar when it's so I'll give you the date when I can look at calendar [Music] I'm seeing September 26th as the first committee meeting that sounds y do I need to include
033the the year on community council and governing board meeting date consistency yeah I was goingon to say I don't know if we need the year one way or the other because it's all within the same school year but yeah it needs to be consistent okay all right I think we're done then you're welcome all right cool okay uh we ready to move on to the next agenda item so next agenda item is uh item number four which is the discussion of the policies and um before we worked on jic um but we did not finish it and then also uh Allan and Adriana were going to be cleaning up policies that we have currently finished well not finished but got to a good place so I um be I'd like to align to the cleanup
034work I'd like to um if um talk through a document that's in the community folder um which is called the completed policies checklist so at as I was as we were working on the cleanup stuff I I made a table of all the Pol related policies including ones we've never mentioned um and kind of like have are we done are we not done have we not even looked at it and U and so what is pulled pulled means we've pulled it as something to review but we're not done we're not done looking at it and completed means we're done and the cleanup is done um and um Mo so you can see the ones we've that are clean and we can look at those tonight if we have time to do that which would help
035with Jay getting stuff to the attorney um but I do did also want to point out that there's two policies JKD student suspension and jke expulsion of students um which we've not actually ever talked about when are we going to get around to talking about and but we but they are tightly aligned with JK um because JK talks about suspension and expulsion and I my concern is have I I want to make sure that we've reviewed those two I would suggest that we review those two policies before we um before anything else because otherwise we could I I'm concerned that we could end up with contradictory policies if we get JK approved and then these two policies don't align with the recommendations on JK that yeah I think uhuh and then I think you and
036I also discussed and it's more important to get those question at but also um rechecking when we do make our recommendations or if we do move on to another policy what we'd want to do things in so for instance acknowledging that gang activity is was like kind of especially um I think when uh Sophia was discussing she really wanted to make sure that wasn't a priority but it's far less of an issue like day-to-day and thankfully um in our schools than like the student ear um inter interrogation search and arrests so even though there is a good purpose to review it it might be we might want to prioritize other ones yes uh do you want me to where do you want me to go for the viewing audience we gonna go to finish JK
037JK D and JK right are the ones well yeah and I recommend after we finish our J our work on J jic um if we if we think we're gonna be able to do all that tonight because we're in the middle of jic oh and the other oh so I'll save my the next call because until we actually start looking at jic okay I'm opening that one then jic right I have a something real quick so I see on here like jic dating abuse and I it's not on the slides so or oh let me remind you the color coding so the green we did it we're done we're good okay the yellow we said we were going to look at this so are we doing it or not and the red is we never
038mentioned it so if it's in red you wouldn't put it on any of the slides because it's never been mentioned in this committee okay okay clear the only reason they're on this list is because they do relate to all all the policies we have been looking at someday probably do need okay so I'll just I'll cross reference my slides and just make sure I don't have I got it okay j i c and k sorry j i k and j i c KR letters when you mix them up in these combinations so if we're just finishing this up I Revis the top comment um for the agenda and so this is everything we said we still needed to do um but if I think we're going along with the Allan's thinking we probably want to
039skip to two and then three and then one this is how we had them when we left last also I'm going to be listening but I already created a jkb and since it's really statue have the thank you I appreciate it are we good with starting on the page four with revisions [Music] so we're picking up more than where it says 423 yeah um of course the first thing is Katie's question mark on discipline will be administered in item five I think I was just like what does that it sounds very like you're um question it's legal like not right there it says the principal shall investigate all reports like um so is that I mean I don't I don't know if that's being done right now but is it also maybe on like the
040vice or system principle like do we need a speci fight has to be the Principal because then like all of a sudden the principal has to investigate all that when it could be the assistant principal could be Andor design Andor principal vice principal or yeah typically the person in a lot ofes principal shall have investigated or I think what we the option would be um we go with what kind of seems like the usual thing that happens which it's just like you just put principal and then the principal will make sure someone does it and it happens like implicitly the principal does it because they made somebody do it or we can go with the option that I think James just said which is the principal or the principal design me yeah I'm different yeah
041again like as a parent reading it then I would be like well no you didn't look into this I I think wording I think better wording would would actually be the Principal shall ensure all reports there go I like intimidation are investigated and then it's up to the principal to make sure that that happens I'll I'll clean that up very good and then from this point on WE nobody I my understanding from last time is we didn't have anybody had done comments yet um except for Katie and so we might want to do like a five minute break to get to a certain point so that people can have time to make comments so I think the comment thing and this is just for jic K but not R right or yeah so I'm GNA
042make this comment about R the reg J ckr is exactly phrase for phrase although sometimes in slightly different orders the policy there is absolutely no need for this the reg for jic KR to even exist Adrian and I were were like okay no that says this I'm like yeah I've got that two paragraphs later like okay wait what about that like it's it's it's a it's it's identical verbage so is your suggestion to delete my my recommendation would be to delete jic KR because it's completely redundant I I would agree only because there's the it's delineated out later in the other policies with like the suspension policy and the expulsion policy um because those are nearly identical to that too so if you get rid of jic KR I feel pretty confident that you wouldn't
043be losing anything from the documents gotta okay this one does not so it's um 10 to six why don't we do um 10 minutes to review all of page five and then the few paragraphs that are on page six and the last paragraph on page four and then we can start with suggesting for hi J thank you have a great night see you [Music] are we putting comments like directly in or are we still doing it off to the side I would do it off to the side that we can all see what it originally said compare it to the comment okay I was doing it under suggesting mode so you can be just oh or you can do it that way make it under suggesting mode it's automatically doing both for for yes oh
044there's plugs on the floorp support oh way over there see I want to these policies what we're doing I saw that's how we're gonna be able to afford the build students to their seats except as designated by the super you for what in no for for I'll never stop the teacher and be I'm like 45 degrees when you're done that was always a I told kids when it was time to start talking youall ready okay so going through taking out the principal determines that bullying so Nicole you're thinking you just want to do if um bullying or harassment has occurred I'm f with that I agree with that sorry no no you're good you wanted to delete at the very beginning of bottom of four beginning of the bottom in paragraph five in par yes
045uh you wanted to delete the principal determines and just how it say if bullying occurs right yeah okay I think we said we all agree good any suggestions for instead of discipline will be administered I think it's fine me what leads into that I'm sorry um I believe this is just when things are reported and so now it's like we got to the ahead I just say we got to the point that it's reported and so this five paragraph five is the steps that are taken so I it really is just being like okay consequences were given right is it the tone of the language is that the issue or is it the content itself think we try to get away from I think we've been trying to get away from things being done to
046get the kids oh I see what's JK JKD and JK are the ones we need to review yeah and then JK is we just I think it's I think mostly it's it's no we didn't this is the this is the one we renamed because we reordered the so it's real all this is all this is saying is that if a kid is bullying someone that they will be given discipline yes which is important to say because not every violation of rules is G I think it's just making sure that discipline is a consistent word throughout the different polic related policies and that H that that's something I I can look forward and clean up I just think it's a little I understand that being consist I just think regular people are like do that um
047even though um so do you just want it to be like I don't know I'm just putting it disciplinary policies consequences will follow disciplinary procedures pursuant to JK blah blah blah will be I mean if we just change discipline the consequences like James said I yeah whatever you all think is appropriate I want to quickly hop back up to four because right there there's the word principal um at the time of a student alleged reports The Bullying blah blah blah the principal shall provide the student but if we got down here the I think I think that I think that first one should stay because that is the responsibility of the principal to ensure that all of them are investigated the second one I felt weird about is because like the principle could just be
048like theoretically obviously reference well I didn't think that was bullying so I like the idea that there's like an objective understanding of bullying harassment intimidation what I'm saying is up at number four the principal shall provide a copy of student rights but I mean technically the vice principal could do I think it goes back to that first thing we were talking about the principal sh sure we're going to use the that comes after number four is I don't know yeah think if we decide principal and four okay then we don't need the designate because it's like the principal is going to figure out a way to make it happen and that might be being like assistant principal make this happen yeah or I mean if you order it the student shall be provided with anyways
049I don't want complicated I think we should keep principle and not include designate okay you were you were talking about who gives the copy or were you trying to talk about the copy what the copy is because it says for at the time of student reports alleged bullying harassment or intimidation the principle shall provide to the student who has allegedly been bullied harass or intimidated a written copy of student rights protections so if it's at the time that they reported it they don't report it to the principal I mean whoever they report it to should be yeah the one to to give it instead of like oh sorry I got to check down principal they have to give you this oh I see um so I mean if we changed it to at the time
050the student reports blah blah blah they shall be provided with I think but a written copy of student rights I see your point and here's my wondering are we gonna be watering down the process if it suddenly everybody is doing a different step of the process instead of keeping it really centralized so my vote would be keep it keep it centralized even if that means the student gets it 24 hours after reporting supposed to write away so it says at the time student reports what physically is it again sorry uh page four number four well this so this says technically this would be whatever the policy is for our student rights and responsibility would be getting that and then Support Services they'd be getting like a form for Southwest Behavioral if they're getting anything at
051the time they reported yeah that's pretty instantaneous okay yeah yeah it says written copy of student rights protections and support what if this was after consequences and things are determined well and more importantly if the student who's reporting it is not the is not the target of the bullying harass like they don't need any of that I think maybe I think maybe we makes sense to move that down that it's that that probably is the wrong spot to have it right because like you're saying they might not have been they might not have the kid you talked to but when the when the principal so in number five it does say the student has allegedly been bullied is getting these things sorry it isn't it says at the time a student reports the principal shall
052provide to the student who has allegedly been bullied harassed or intimidated I kind of cop so actually that does work this if we if we uh going with getting rid of it in four and putting it down where it says in five regardless of the outcome of the investigation the principal or design will meet with the involved students to review findings investigation and possibly or provide because you're already having like a let's address the harm and like figure it out if I'm saying you actually weren't bullied it was a misunderstanding on your part it's still this kid still has misunderstanding still has frustration where they would need that support and and I'll speak I'll speak just for myself but I think when we're investigating figuring out like what we're providing the kids does happen doesn't
053happen as soon as they walk in I'm being bullied I like hand them a Southwest Behavioral form I like talk through a bunch of things with kids and then I'm like okay this is where we're at talk with the parent about the rights and stuff so I do think it's a bit misplaced also maybe if we just maybe just remove at the time student reports alleged blah blah blah and just make good principal sh shall principal shall ensure student receives like this um the pr oops the principal shall provide to the student who has allegedly been bullied harassed or intimidated or read a copy of their student right or shall ensure student is provided because then they can either give it to them themselves or have Vice assistant principal give it to them students are
054provided with a written copy and I mean wait hold on I'm just split the shall Ure students it's in order to do this correctly it's going to be in rewrite of sentence realizing that as I go I don't know I'm not sure if I'm misinterpreting this but I mean I can't tell you how many times I've had a conversation with a kid who was reporting bullying and it turned out that kid was the one who was doing the bullying so I'm a little uncomfortable I'm a little uncomfortable with it with like passing out I I I would feel more comfortable upon the completion of the investigation that's that's kind of my vote is just take out four completely but put the copy of Rights and stuff will be given to wa I I super disagree
055with this because it could take a week or two weeks or three weeks to investigate bullying right so if a kid gets oh hey here are all your rights after we've already done the investigation why are you even getting into the other piece of this that we've not talked about at all is that it also um requires communication with the parents of the um I thought that was earlier supect no keep reading keep reading that sentence and and shall notify the student students parents/guardians of the suspected incident of harassment intimidation or bullying like we're not even into investigation and we're already informing parent your child may have been which I think is what should be happening your kid came to the office and reported their buling if you heard anything at home that's usually that's
056usually the first thing before the investigate usually call the parent and say an incident happened this is what's going on we're going to do an investigation that's I think maybe by suggesting I think we're implicitly assuming that the children will not read student rights protections and Sport services available which is understandable but you know in the case that they actually want to make use of these things I think they should be provided them before an investigation takes place there's like a notice isue yeah I'm not disagreeing with that I just like I said I I I can't tell how many times I've seen it's the that's the wrong person to be providing the literature to is what I'm saying they don't have those rights even if they're the wrong person right like so they can
057be notice of those person apply to in this instance because they're gonna apply to them they're student of the district so I don't hurs that the wrong person gets it as long as when we do figure it out then that person gets it as as soon as you catch on or something the purpose is more educational is what you're saying notice and education I would air on the side of giving people lots of notice so that you don't have to go back and redo things what if they could say they didn't have do process they weren't what if like the principal shall ensure that all students involved in alleged bullying harassment or intimidation cases are provided with written copies because then like you said after you investigated it could have been the roles had been
058reverse and if you only gave the one the rights and you gave it to the wrong kid and this one should have had it I will say the only the only thing about that I would not be comfortable with is that if a student says Hey so and so is bullying me and then so and so gets called down and given a bunch of notification about their rights then it's like oh I'm being investigated for bullying whereas depending on the nature of the investigation the AP or principal might want to weigh a day see what they do in class right see see what happens ask the teachers to look into it before letting the kid know that like oh someone made a report against them right or if the report's anonymous right they don't want
059it to be too obvious like oh okay oh I just and and and the purpose of this step is to ensure that a potential victim is being taken care of right like that's what the purpose of this is and I think that we need to keep that Focus because so I just changed it different keeping it in the same spot the principal shall assure a student who been allegedly B that has been allegedly bullied harassed or intimidated provide a written copy of student rights protections and support services available to the student and and I think I'm G to take that make this complete yeah basically take out the at the time of student reports yeah and the principal shall notify the students parents or Guardians of the suspected incident of harass and intimidation bullying oops
060okay then it brings us down to the one so we're taking out the design though because we're just going with the principal umbrella yes please does this counter six explain what that means are you talking about fura and the findings of the investigation oh we my comment uh yeah so I guess I the I I started out with like does this need to be defined more but then it just as I was reading through it it was saying well you uh you have to go and make sure that uh the involved students to also be informed but then you spend the next two paragraphs well at least the next six paragraph they're essentially saying all the things you cannot say so it was kind of confusing to me um because I it's like you know
061it's right like reading a top secret government report where 90% of the stuff is blanked out um and I I don't know it it it was just more of a what section we on I'm sorry five and six I like that L because I mean it's important that parents are obviously being told hey we investigated this is you know the events that occurred um students students involved have been provided with some kind of consequence you know whatever right I think six is referring to the fact that like you know they don't want people to you know make a Wall of Shame of everyone who's been suspended right they don't want people to publicize you know XYZ thing that's like different than I think five is what you're saying you got to tell everybody but you
062got to make sure you follow their rights I'm looking at six and I think six is more about like who we're giving to outside of the parents well it says yeah restrictions establ by on disclosure person yeah oh I assumed it was about no they're they're talking about two different audiences one five is the audience of the parent and those involved and then six is the like storing of documents in the school community and the school officials and law enforcement yeah exactly so I don't think they contradict because I think that they're addressing two separate things yeah okay um I did put um oh I don't I see your comment Nicole and I feel like almost I would assume that we wouldn't like pass them off to District they would stay at the school but
063I thought District was an umbrella I wasn't sure I was like well why would you want to go to your own system and find it inste of call District yeah it should be the district the district the one that's suppos to correct my um oh is that your comment or my comment um did we both comment on the same thing yeah we did okay uh let's answer your comment because it directly matches aligned to mine yeah so um and Katie we may need to help with this one so it says documentation related to reported baying harassment or intimidation and subsequent investigation shall be maintained by the district for not less than six years and my question is is that like I don't know where that number came from yeah because and my question was is
064this align to Legal expectations for maintaining documents um because it doesn't even align to the federal requirement for keeping special ed records when a kid leaves the district yeah which is now only years to the aella requirements yeah it just seems very like a random number and I had said could we and mine was what's the purpose of this slash do we want to consider a modified timeline like one year after the students involved it might have it might have had to do with the statute of limitations yeah I was going to say I think but felonies is seven years and then I see sexual harassment is 300 days see so six is just feels like a random number something wrong but thing is like um yeah I don't because I think you're able to
065like create your own retention schedule for like C certain kinds of check policy and see what else is six years is yeah I mean we have state requires us to keep permanent the permanent whatever put card for in perpetuity yeah like forever required Student Records it looks like six years this is the only policy that requires us to keep documents for six even special ed records are only five years after the child leaves the district I don't think it no that doesn't make sense I was I wonder if they were doing like loose math it's like well if you keep them for six years they would have been like off our campus by then but that doesn't really make sense then my question is why why these records is supposed to in the other disciplinary
066records well and yeah I think you have a lot of we have a lot of this stuff online as well so like this like Synergy keeps student recommend like required yes thank you um so it's kind of unnecessary because I when I'm reading this I'm thinking of we have binders with every single student statement like stapled with a cover sheet and we're we've been keeping the past three years because I've been there for three years but like I don't even know where you would store six years I mean I'm just gonna say they don't binders binders and binders of statements already well and and we don't require this for any other disciplinary records why are these records like so special that they that were required to keep them for a specific period of time I
067feel like one year Beyond when the student is enrolled is probably that's what I was thinking maximum that would be reasonable kid goes to high school give it for a year just in case anything weird happens after that the high school has had a year to establish anything yeah my hunch would be because of the transientness of our district like if they're a fourth grader and then they leave and then they come back in sixth grade oh yeah actually that's yeah I just think but if you do like one year or two years after the incident occurred then that would be very easy for like the I'm again I'm assuming people are doing similarly to how we're doing it at monov Vista but that would be very easy to be like these are my binders
068from 2017 toss um you know what I mean I just I feel like at what point is it no longer necessary to keep two years after the in the invest the incident the investigation records yeah I don't know six just seems like a lot um yeah it does I essentially that would mean that the kid be still in the school or she that it would have been in second grade that they did something six years ago so why don't we do this well she looks for that do we want to I just I'm for well I'm going to do a comment do you want to give like a quick what would be your vote for this and then we'll see I I think two years after the incident yeah I think two years is fine
069I I just think that unless we're doing that for all disciplinary investigations I still don't understand why we're doing something special for these my only thing in terms of recordkeeping so help me understand why that's important I think because bullying requires a pattern of behavior oh yeah and so if a student for example let's say a student is is really seriously bullying someone they get suspended or whatever they stop and then in a year or two they pick it up on that same person you'd want those documents available to demonstrate oh they have actually been bullying this person on and off for years if if that stuff's properly documented in the adjudication stuff within Synergy in the discipline stuff in Synergy it would all be there that would it be my thing about keeping it
070is um we have had times where um we've had a high schooler like continue to harass the same student when they were in high school and then they've the families have reached out and have asked like do you have that information and well we did one time have the police reach out about do you have anything about these two kids struggling so that's the only time that I've actually like seen in practice that we needed the statements themselves because that's what we don't put in there we don't scan every noted statement um yeah I was going to say because all the actual docu like the student reports are not going to be in Synergy like basically only is going to be Synergy is bullying suspension actually it won't even say who the victim would be
071poten it does it just won't on their discipline record when you pull it down but we do collect that data when you put it in because you have to put the victims so okay I'm gonna put two years or not at all and then we move on how's that I'm anything makes it seem like so for seven I just wanted to know what information are we it's not very clear what we're disseminating are we disseminating says governing board policies inant reporting support services and student rights okay so if that is well that's just the procedure of giving those things out but then in C it says be posted in each classroom and like we can't possibly we'd be wallpapering classrooms so I've seen School I've seen school districts actually follow their policy that do this
072where they have in each classroom they have a poster which basically outlines the reporting um policy they don't they don't have like just the governing board policies printed out usually might say per policy XYZ the reporting like protocol um numbers with Support Services like often see like here's a help line you can call like a suicide help line or something similar right for students who are being harassed right and here are your rights as a student regarding ping and it's just all in one nice little poster kind like stuff that they have breakthough yep well because the common areas Mak sense to me in the classrooms I just and it's just white noise at that point I I strongly disagree because I think that I mean it's whatever teachers do with it right I mean
073I have stuff in my classroom like I don't know my most used poster in my classroom is probably the schedule right kids take their because relevant to their lives every single day but it's relevant to their life every single day yeah but I if I per like if teachers make an effort to say hey if bullying is an issue right let's refer to the poster let's look at this it doesn't have to be like it can literally be something like so an example I can site from the last one I saw like a high school I did a training at um it was like a picture of like a sad child and it was like if you're being bullied per policy XYZ go to the principal's office at XYZ times to report the instances of
074bullying and included like some phone numbers you can call for emotional it's like and I think they also have them in the bathrooms um I don't have a problem with the common areas I think I do I was like posted in the classroom with all the stuff the teacher already putting in it feels like it's just going to end up being like a trashed poster after like a week um so that was my only thing I don't care if you want it in every classroom I'm fine with that um I just wanted to make sure like what does that actually mean because if it's governing board policies that feels like to me we're not clarifying that it's only jic that sounds like all of them if it's incident reporting that's going to be like that's
075another I it just seems it seems like a lot like and proactive and reactive services like what can our first graders access that's something should be in their classroom every day that's all I was saying so it might be the pragmatics of it that doesn't need to be discussed here but as a principal or an assistant principal or even a classroom teacher I think this needs to be much clearer about what people have in their rooms well first I would change the word will to may may because that way we can leave it up to the superintendent and whoever is working on it on his behalf to figure out the details of what that information is and I will also say that to me this is no different than we have map emergency evacuation maps
076in every room like I meany how big wait there's nothing about how big this poster like one teeny page fine but then that's not you know what I mean like the emergency map I think also is like if you're not familiar with the I don't know I just feel like I feel like that's an excessive amount of things to have in the classroom when and you know because schools have like their own their own expectation posters that they have their own voice volumes their the content we require them to have on there yeah Y and students might be afraid of seeking out that information in a public space yeah I think again it's like it's one of those things where it's like I think bullying is a pretty big like cultural issue in our schools
077like I think a lot of our schools have a culture kids are pretty mean they're pretty they tend to bully each other like the policy is much more serious and and um strict than how I think things are implemented in our schools um and I think it would make perfect sense to me to have some stuff up in classrooms yeah and I could see from like a students's perspective if you're sitting there and you're in class and you've been you know you're scared because you know there's the bully and like looking around you're not paying attention and you see the poster like the bully post they're like oh okay that's something they could do me think about that like realistically that's that is probably where students are going to see and and take in that
078information rather than comment different if it's like a bullying and like go see the principal at this time I think that makes more sense when I'm reading this and I maybe I'm reading it incorrectly I'm thinking that we literally telling people to print this out and put it in your classrooms and I'm saying that's not like if it's some way like may include or like something like that I we change will to May that's fine sh or yeah so it's not so they're defin so he's definitely going to establish procedures but we don't necessarily know what all that information might be and like what Support Services proactive and reactive besides Southwest Behavioral does that comes to your mind I mean that is a support service that I mean people we want students to be aware
079it's like they have access to and then this same with sorry I'm nitpicking I don't actually care this feels like a lot let's wait till we decide what it's supposed to look pragmatically and we want to leave that big because over the years contct yeah okay um so back to posting in each classroom wait hold my what am I trying to get you question marked it were you question marking my comment or you another comment no it was probably that I got a question mark there by the superintendent shall establish but I'm like wait is should it be numbered should it be that it was confused why it's just hanging out there by itself after d between DNA is that supposed to be oh I think it's because it's it's the two different audiences so
080they shall establish procedures for the dissemination of information to students pars and Guardians and then but we can certainly number it for clarification purposes not a big deal so change that to Aid and then change yeah those numbers should probably have periods after is [Music] this okay when you format this just know Alan that they're not actually bullets they're just literally numbers people wrote in trying to do like the bullet numbering yeah it's okay yeah don't I I'll clean it up okay so this is actually eight it's like jumping around shift tab thank you it's okay that's nice okay it's okay I'll I'll reum it when I clean it up thank you James next one for nine or new nine or first nine um so it's just a question information will be provided to staff
081me members at the beginning of each instructional year is that essentially professional development or is that just like in the form of like a those modules that everybody takes at the beginning of the year yeah that was kind of mine like information regarding what well I think that this this statement is actually continuation of what's now number eight so in terms in terms of content Nial and then uh I I mean currently it's whatever those modules it's part of those modules but and if it's not then I don't know let the superintendent figure out how it gets presented but so maybe combine that sentence with what says up at but I believe it's meant to be like the modules or before the modules when Susan Lugo would do her tour right I was gonna say
082I don't think those are in the modules things that we click through like with like I know blood hazards those sorts of things I don't think it's in there so I just I took away the nine and put the information listed above will be provided to the staff members at the beginning of each instructional year and on the first day of employment and I imagin how the information is disseminated whether it's a training or a handbook it's been like intentionally left B probably make more sense just to fill that sentence up the problem is well yeah the reason I didn't do that is because you see how it says but not limited to that's just indicating that this is a list so you'd be basically putting this information in between the sentence and its own
083list but I could you could do the information superintendent doeses anyone have any suggestions about where you would like to put where where are we at now uh just confirming her sentiment on eight and the last sentence of eight if it's placing the rights see this Mak the superintendent shall establish comma and provide to the staff at the beginning of each instructional year or at the first of Department employees comma the semination of information can I share share with you how I'm reading it and see if we're on the same one yeah so I see the superintendent shall establish procedures for the dissemination of information to our employees including a b c d and e the information listed above ABCDE will be provided to the staff members at the beginning of each year instructional year
084and at the first day of employment for new employees yeah yeah yeah I think just I think when it was broken up like we had a nine there and it didn't make much sense yeah okay how do you feel now oh the the writer in me wants to keep playing with it so I figure it out but no all right um you're the next comment too on the next one so here yeah so establish procedures protect the health blah blah blah should it do we need to specify on campus as a result of bullying it because if a a kid gets beat up after school we need to have procedures that say what what or School sponsored activities like on a field trip like that's not on campus like so and our discipline policy is
085already broadly specified that all that our discipline stuff incompasses all those different types of school related environments okay um Katie why did you want something less harsh for false reporting sorry j right yeah paragraph numbered 11 I mean I agree proba should be exposion I mean I think I mean I I just I crossed out up to an including suspension or expulsion in response to Katie's comment who we find something less harsher basically all it says is if you're filing false reports could be could result in disciplinary action which we've already defined as a part of of harassment anyway so it's just it's repetitive at that point okay so take this out wiing out I would it might be easier for Alan if you leave or whoever's doing this I wouldn't delete things ever I
086would probably just draw lines through them like that yeah it's F yeah easier but especially if I'm end up doing track changes leave L it's not like where did it yeah it's going to be a mess doing that because how this is because we've been doing this yeah I know so never mind it's fine um my question on number 12 is um oh so I was going to say for 12 Allan to your question like when would bullying ever be a violation of the law so I mean an example I'll give you is like sexual harassment is very common like pulling someone's pants down in public or touching them inappropriately as a form of sexual harassment might be done in the vein of at school in the vein of bullying um but in terms of
087like the law would just be considered like straight up sexual harassment sexual assult this is more this requires more than any than the law requires right so like this policy says law enforcement authorities shall be notified anytime the district officials has a have a reasonable belief that an incidence of bullying is violation of law the law doesn't require that it allows you in these instances unless it's one of the unless the bullying involved one of the mandatory reporting criminal offenses then there's no reason that it should be sha so I don't think we should have sha is really kind of my concern can we change that to May yeah and then I was wondering and it might be a Katy question if maybe as we talked about this being like under the umbrella of harassment
088if we want to change the bullying to harassment I think that also kind of clarifies it I kind of remember that conversation but my brain is bullying harassment or intimidation we just make it that instead of just bullying yeah because I think you're right they don't have like a bullying law but there definitely is laws regarding harass and that's my point there is no bullying law so if we put bullying ever sexual harassment of your bullying is that you're threatening someone in a way that like involves a weapon or you know I mean all these things well right and then it's a different right it becomes a different thing still coming from the bully it's I think I think that the the spirit of this is saying that well just because this is bullying doesn't
089mean that it's not also a separate thing that is against the law right but that's but that's not what it's not what it says because it says the bullying is a violation of the law yeah which that was my problem with so whatever they did as the bullying yeah like like for example if you sexually harass someone as a way of bullying them it's saying that's they're not just going to be punished for bullying right they're saying that hey you did something super illegal and we may need to know yeah I I I understand that the wording here doesn't say that it it it's it it the way this is worded is the B the act of bullying itself it becomes it's it's a violation of I think the word the incidence is what is
090saying so the incidence involves whatever action was the bullying bullying isn't an action right it's some specific conduct so the incidence is the conduct and so what I'm saying is the conduct could be things that aren't required by law to be reported to law enforcement and that's why I didn't like sh because all the other thing that's a weird concern here is if somebody's like under the age of them even willing to prosecute in delinquency Court I mean are you gonna this would require you to like report a 5-year-old to law enforcement like that's not they're going to be like what okay um I would I would normally suggest removing this but I feel like it's I think it would be nice to have in for principal I've often heard principes or school officials just
091in my life also just be like well you know we aren't really allowed to notify the police you're welcome to go call the police or whatever so it would be nice to have something in school Poli be like hey this student actually violated the law i' really prefer you you you know took that up for them assaulting my child obviously the list of mandatory reporting things are a little extreme if those were the types of bullying conduct like our sin or like something homicide is also in our Synergy system I mean you'd be surprised that's true so I just had a I just had a question that's kind of related to that uh in terms of like because maybe notified how um because we're always talking about standardization right I I I the first thing
092that came to my mind is what are the qualifications and things that this would be something that we would notify or not because it's it it's already kind of a tenuous conversation to begin with I think this is something that would be played out in the behavior Matrix right so for example in the AP Behavior Matrix I mean it would be the case that let's say arson as an act of bullying right is you know something that all the aps across all the schools should feel comfortable calling law enforcement about or whatever at that's just a silly example but I think that is up to like implementation to figure out how to standardize it's impossible and policy though that specifically addresses or just talk about man there was I'll think there was something I would
093just appreciate guidance on that because sometimes it's I think the issue is it's not black it's not black or white it's going to be so nuanced on the aggravating and mitigating factors that I don't think that there is anything beyond what the AP Matrix is and even still they won't be exactly the same and some parents are very passionate about that stuff and I would not I would feel uncomfortable about having a conversation with somebody if they came to me this with this policy and and lobbied for it and I didn't have guidance in terms of well this is when you do it this is when you don't do it I think there's extreme situations like like what he's referring to but I I think a chunk of them are nuanced so like the only
094super black and white are like what I'm talking about which is the so and that's spelled out in the originaly that one just explicitly says when law enforcement shall be notified of other than that that's where the I don't know if there's like a right there's not really a right answer it also EV and flow based on who's the superintendent who's on the board what everybody's expectations are yeah but I do agree with Daniel that I think that keeping something about at some point law enforcement will be unnotified um when it meets that threshold should be in there because there have been a lot of times where we've had a lot of times where parents want us to call and it does not rise to that level and just to be clear definitely times where
095I'm like we we need a yeah and just to be clear I don't disagree with it I would just like some guidance on parameters I think that's something to bring up when is there a regulation on those of this or no well we were just talking about how this particular policy the regulation below is exact copies that's right you were saying yeah so no there's not that's the only thing I could think of if there was something in regulation that then directed the superintendent but a lot of that's already in I me it talked about with super so I'm also recommending some word changing in there that you may see that instead of it's saying an incidence of bullying that says the behavior resulting in bullying so that we know what we're actually talking about
096because an incidence of bullying is an event yeah yeah it's not the actual behavior and so I would feel more comfortable with that we at least have a sense of what it's not the bullying itself it's the behavior that resulted that we're caps encapsulating under bullying okay I'm good with what you changed and then to Katie's original comment why don't we make that part of our governing board presentation that um here when does the governing board think that that should be an issue and that could be kind of because you're sorry your comment is really going off of like what's the board's sentiment towards that so really I think the best thing for us to do is just to like Point them in the direction of this and say what is your sentiment here exactly
097now about the hanging stuff you all did see this one the EV the what so jic K is the actual to be displayed in school buildings and student handbooks so it's like an actual thing we haven't done any of the I know you haven't done that but maybe it would answer that's the right yes that is actually very helpful thank you so can you repeat that there's jic k- is like the actual document that they're saying should be displayed and it's just because it's falling below okay yeah okay that makes more sense clarify that okay thank you all right so I'm just gonna check mark everybody's below ktie I gotta do and then I think we're done no y we never talked about the opening paragraphs for J CK either just saying I can't find
098j i c k e d is that what you said EB oh EB okay ultimately the top paragraph is like pretty it's really just like a synopsis of well you see it in the comment can we volunteer can some can we just take a volunteer to go ahead and give their first stab at writing that and like doing comments and then we come back and we look at it as opposed to like a paragraph by paragraph check that be okay with everybody only because it's really not changing and it's not changing anything it's basically just summarizing like now picking someone to do the paragraphs and then we call it unless everything else talk about yeah I think do you want even want to do that outside of here or like right now no no let's
099do it side of here um but just having one person do it like since Alan you're already cleaning them up if you want I can do these ones send it to you you can do it well I mean you and are cleaning doing clean up together so we can work on all that together okay we if everybody's okay with us considering a part of cleanup and then because we all have to go all the clean up stuff anyway what are the what are you cleaning up the top page the very first page the paragraphs before definitions that kind of share what the vibe of the district is ultimately we're going to try to make sure that it best matches what we've gone through as a team oh Goa which we yeah which we never went
100back to got it is that also gonna include we can't have three of us working on oh is that also going to include the first uh the parts that we up at the top that you put up there the parts that are we going to do that as a group too I'm talking about just those four paragraphs so the only parts that are left that we are not saying we would work on is including hate speech speech in the section got it I'm happy to discuss that with Alan and give you guys the best stab but it does seem like a broader conversation because it's like the creation of something yeah so I assumed we would not do that um just a comment I did upload JK and JKD went highlighted stuff so was like
101green was you can do something or red is like one thing say shall or something and then I put a couple comments most part it's like super just is what it is the statute so basically there's not a lot we can do with JKD and that's okay yeah it's just good to know okay the only thing I put in there was JK e and maybe even on the JK D like I was hoping that there could be something that's like um which looking at com there like I would like ex members just like theion thing I don't know put it's like loading very very slowly you put it in the first paragraph about your statements You' like Yeah Yeah just something about I I don't want to be redundant but more like uh let's just
102like use this sparing expelling okay people in kindergarten through fourth grade well I mean the revised statutes spell all of that out well I mean like because it's still shall though right so it's like must comply so even if you did all this it's May right May out of school suspend or expel right corre so what I'm saying is I want a paragraph before that that even says like even like we should only well I would even argue that the statement that says a recommendation to expel shall be by the superintendent should not be the opening paragraph yeah oh yeah and I also it should actually this should be this should there should be more of a process flow yeah so maybe just like here's the considerations under which it could be done and then
103if it need to be done yeah I just like to compliment you Ellen this I love this little checklist this is really cool thank you for doing that sure sorry a little off task but I was looking at I was like that's really neat do I got sick and I had something to do or something or something hope you're feeling better so yes the K4 stuff all changed and we did address the K4 stuff did change and we did address that in the in the in whichever one is the other in JK um and and we need to make sure that it's all aligned in these in these in both expulsion and suspension see this is why but I we needed to talk about this more before we started making in this one there's some
104of these weird ones where I'm wondering like the option were they supposed to pick one thought the same thing so there's a couple sections like that where I'm like oh lot slpp stuff can I make a recommendation for the meeting to wrap up but also no no you're good so Alan Allan and I are gonna take a stab at fixing up J jik so that would be something we would need to do the hate speech thing is still on the agenda agenda and then for the next agenda it would be JK and JK D the suspension exposion ones that she's been working on but my Wonder is do you want to go and align those first and then people see what's left because if they if any of us and then clean it up so
105we don't have to re rehash discussions we already had think so yeah that that will work um because we're gonna need to go over all the all the rewrites anyway clean up anyway at our next meeting so that we so there'll be nothing to send the attorney in the morning but yeah next Tuesday whatever so then so we have another meeting on the 30th no here you're just an ex officio you no power so the meeting um so the next meeting is on the 30th we focus on the cleanup we review the vibe paragraphs for for jic by the 30th do you think you'd have JK JKD and JK aligned so that people could review it after that maybe I don't know I will do my best to have it done I feel like asking
106you to do it before that though that's very unreasonable so well before that it's next Tuesday I know that's why I was trying to be nice L of time so long story short nobody look at JK the exposion and suspension specific ones because we don't know when he'll get to it but when you do get to it can you send that out yes he created that amazing checklist Allan can do no wrong and then so don't look at it don't look at it until you get like an email from My Eyes Are CL Alan or Hilda maybe yeah thank thank you Daniel yes you'll get an email from Hilda to look at those ones that he has ready to go so nobody really has any homework other than come to community council Katie does what
107is it oh that one question thing he asked you about okay commity Council I don't remember hold on can you write that down can you put that Daniel won't be I sent you um something on jic do you know um I don't know if uh well does anybody know when this presentation is in community council is it at the beginning the middle the end I don't know that yet because there's a good chance I might be coming late next Tuesday no no no for Thursday because they have the softball games and football games they're supposed to end at 5:30 but they're supposed to end at 5:30 but they usually don't where is Community Council no the Empire does and in fact that's been kind of a point of convention sometimes because some Empires and so
108you'll come to this one Empires will kind of Wiggle some more time out of it and it's caused tension yeah people take that stuff real seriously if I was the coach and I was winning it' be like James 5:30 it's you know yeah no no one said that I would do it if somebody told me that like yeah it's 5:30 let's go but no one is actually said that you know coach G he's real like diplomatic about stuff okay so can but he's the one that told me afterwards he's like that guy went a little bit trying so hard jened sorry sorry I got distracted I don't know if you do it or I do it uh no I I can do it okay go why do you need a motion from us a motion
109to adjourn yes I would like to entertain a motion to adjourn from somebody please motion to adjourn Mee oh I can do that oh okay all right all those in favor hi motion passes meeting adjourned thank