001Okay, it is 6:31. I'm going to call the meeting to order. Could I please have a motion to adopt remote participation as written in the agenda, please? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Very good. Roll call vote. Pam. Pam >> Pam Nurin. Yes. >> Sarah Montigue Arlington. Yes. >> Linda Herbison Bolton. Yes. Dortner conquered. Yes. >> Marky Dover. Yes. >> Sharon MTO Lexington. Yes. >> Jeff Stom. Yes. >> Alukto. Yes. >> Very good. All right. We have a very very short agenda today. The agenda is continue discussion on the FY27 superintendent recommended budget. Let me remind you of some context. The context is that uh because all the town's budget depends on our budget, our budget information has to come in earlier than we would like. In fact, earlier than the governor's budget. So uh
002we have uh we have the administration has developed their budget uh uh in a very short period of time and we have a very short period of time between when we are law legally obligated to vote on the budget. Because of this compressed time frame we are having this kind of special meeting. The FINCOM members have had opportunities to look at uh the detailed numbers already, although I'm going to ask them for their questions first, but this is the opportunity for the school committee members to uh ask their questions about the details in the budget book prior to seeing it for the you know, we don't want you to see it for the first time in our February 5th meeting, which we have to vote on it. So, you get to see it uh today.
003It was sent to you last week. You had to ask whatever questions you want for the administration or the fincom uh tonight and uh there is going there will probably be some changes to it. We believe that there will be nonsubstantive changes due to the governor's budget. The FINCOM will look at that and and then in the February 5th meeting we will if there are no substantive changes we're not going to hold another meeting. If there are substantive changes that the school committee members as a whole need to look at, we will hold another meeting for you to do so. If there are just nonsubstantive changes and you'll we'll tell you what the differences are on the February 5th meeting and you'll vote on it then. And do we have any Nikki, do we have
004Nikki, Heidi, do we have any uh reason to believe they're going to be changes in the governor's budget which will be um substantive that we have to worry about at this time? No. there's been no political goings on. Okay. So, on that note, I'm going to even though the school the uh FINCOM members have had a chance to comment on this to Nikki prior, I'm going to ask them first the FINCOM members since this was originally supposed to be FINCOM meeting to ask any additional questions that they may have on the budget book as received last week. So, FINCOM members, let's go. Um, D. >> Yeah. The the only question I have is um can we modify the budget, say halfway through the year, and under what conditions would that be approved? meaning >> under
005under what circumstances have to arise in order for us to meet again to modify the budget possibly. >> Driscoll, would you like to respond to that one? >> Yes. Yes, I'm happy to respond. So, essentially, you're voting on the bottom line. Um, all the different areas that you see in the budget book. If there were a crisis like our roof needed replacing suddenly and we needed to pay XYZ, we would then request a transfer from other accounts to shift it to the thing that we need and that does go to the finance committee regularly. So you'll notice throughout the year um already quarterly you'll see transfers. So last year for example, we um had quite a big expense in substitute teachers. So we had to shift some money that had been planned for one thing
006to the substitute teacher line. Um so because we plan our budget so incredibly early, um that is something that happens throughout the year and that's also why Nikki gives us quarterly reports to make sure it's not just one big um shift at the end of the year. So if some emergency came up, you could make this shift, but you cannot change the bottom line. Is that correct? >> Yes. Yes. I mean, if we needed to, which I do not anticipate we would, Nikki, I'm sure you can explain more if I'm not doing well enough. Um, but if we needed more money, we can always go back to the towns. But we will never go back to the towns. That's not what we do at Minute Man. >> So, I I will jump in and just
007add that if there was ever, which we don't anticipate, um we would have to notify all of our member towns, give them a chance to hold a town meeting if they would so choose, um they would have 45 days um to hold a meeting or the for the select board to look at it and then either give us a a support or not support. and we would need twothirds um of our member towns to amend the budget. Um but we again don't anticipate that happening. >> Thank you. >> That has never happened. But uh I'll tell you D what has happened is >> also vote the assessments. >> And once we vote the assessments those are fixed. >> So let's say we vote the assessments and then we get bad news >> uh that something
008needs to be repaired or whatnot. We cannot change the assessment. So we have to eat any changes that occur that would impact the assessments because we cannot change them and that has happened. We have had uh unpleasant surprises occurred during the year in which we that it did impact the services we could give to our students >> because the assessments are fixed and if there's a change in the funds they have to come from somewhere else in the budget. >> Okay. So that is not we've never voted to change I don't believe we've voted to raise or we can always lower the assessments we just can't raise them. >> Uh Nikki >> and we'll just add into um we're waiting for the governor's budget which is the very first version of the budget that goes
009to the house and the senate um and they finally vote normally you know toward the end of July early I mean end of June early July is when we find out. So there still may be changes in the state aid um based on the versions and how it goes through um but we update it based on kind of the very first um >> iteration >> look yeah iteration of the governor's budget because that's the best estimate um that we can go on when we are you know have to um vote on the budget. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Uh, other FINCOM members, Sarah, chair of the fincom, do you have any other comments to add to that or any other questions on the budget? >> I do not have any other questions or comments
010at this time. Thanks. >> Okay. And Mark Healey, any additional comments or questions on the budget book. >> Thank you, but none at this time. >> Okay, then let's open it up to any school committee member. There are a lot of pages in that book. Do you have any questions on those numbers, figures, charts? PM Pam. >> Yep. Sorry, I was taking myself off mute. Um, I have three questions and a comment. So, you can decide if you want me to ask them all now or take >> all now. >> Okay. First, on the comment on page four where you talk about the percentage of um students on IEPs and say it's well above the state average. I think it's well above our sending school average and I would just suggest making that point clear.
011>> Thank you, Pam. Um, we actually give an individual breakout for each town when we visit them. Now, it started with Arlington last year um because they had a misperception that we were sending back special ed students and had very few special ed students. Um, so that is something that we share and we did share at our town manager breakfast. Um, it's special education, lowincome and high needs are all substantially higher than all of our sending districts. Thank you. >> Yep. Great. I just thought we needed to get that message out. Thank you. >> Um, I had um two questions about um uh well, one about the additional position. I know at one point there was talk of outsourcing our maintenance work. Is that off the table now? >> We actually do outsource our cleaning
012work. So right now we have maintenance staff and one custodian and uh it is not enough for our building and our maintenance staff. Those are supposed to be the people who are our plumbers, electricians, they fix things. um they are doing double duty as a custodian and a maintenance person. Um which is not we're not doing the best we can do for our school. Um so the additional maintenance person is for during the day. So for example, there's a spill in the hallway. We need a maintenance person literally in our cafeteria for the duration of all lunches. Um we can't have someone come after. Um those are just little normal things um that we need to have um happen, >> right? >> Yep. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you. >> Um >>
013you got another one. Good. >> I got two more. >> Good. Excellent. >> Um the other is I So I am all for us paying our teacher aids, our paraprofessionals. you know, I know they're often the most underpaid. And when you say that you're doing a market adjustment, I'm just curious like is this a significant adjustment for them? >> That's that's a good question. Um, so right now, um, we have seven paraprofessionals, Nikki, seven, correct? >> Yep. I was just >> Okay, thank you. Yep. Um, and currently our paraprofessionals for the year make $35,000 a year. We have had um tremendous trouble uh maintaining staff that we can continue employment with. Um, so we are changing the salary by $10,000 to be $45,000, which is still not quite a living wage. Um but it is
014uh our first step in um the market adjustment for all of the paraprofessionals and some of the par if you are a licensed par profofessional through um the department of early ed um so you are a preschool teacher they have a little bit of a different scale but it's still in the same ballpark. >> Okay. Thank you. And I'm all for bringing them up to a living wage. I know we didn't get to the number you you requested, Pam. We didn't, but maybe we'll we'll inch towards that. >> Yeah. Um, and then my final question, I think I had one more, but I I don't remember it right now. So, my final question for right now, is what is the impact of Leslie no longer being a partner on our fields and the fine money
015we were expecting from um that rental? Well, we still are receiving the same money because they're still renting from us. So, that was a part of the issue. Um, immediately when this was uh a concept, Leslie got top priority for all of our fields after Minute Man without Minute Man getting a financial benefit or a a concrete benefit at all. So they were enjoying um priority usage, bumping out other towns, other organizations um without committing to us. Um so right now the money has not changed because they are still renting. Um and we have a backlog of renters. Uh Michelle Rosendis is doing a great job with our rentals. Um, right now, um, we are coming out with an RFP, I think within a week. Uh we just looked at the last draft of it
016um last week. Um looking for a partner um for our Tmont Street building um to turn that into some sort of a veterinarian and health science location um both for um a live veterinary clinic and space for our students in health and vet. And then following that, we're going to put out another RFP for pieces of the phase 2 instead of the whole thing at once. Um, so we're looking at modular um builds. We we don't need a a snack shack with a an industrial smoker. We don't need that. We we just need the basic things um for our kids. And once we get the RFP with the veterinary clinic going, those are the pieces that we'll come forward with. And we do have partners um who have come forward to ask um uh like
017uh Summer's Edge um the Bolts, the soccer team. There's there's lots of people who are interested in Lexington public schools honestly um who are interested in different types of partnerships. But we need to go slow and steady so that we're not in a situation that's not beneficial to we are not losing any revenue or um feeling that at all right now. >> Great. Thank you. And and I remembered my last question and it is and I'm said these just issue an issue I've lost track of the north building. I know we were >> renovating north building to increase capacity. Is that still in the works? >> It is. It's actually It's due to open around Valentine's Day, that's actually on my agenda, uh or on my superintendence report for the next school committee meeting. Um
018fun fact, um the last tour that I took of it, um you know, I don't see what kids do every single day, but they gave me a tour of the North Building. The machinery that we're moving is just monstrous and wild. And the day before I came, the students had gotten to go into the manholes to pull fiber optic wires from our main Minute Man building underground to the north building. And I I was like, "Oh my gosh, I'm glad you didn't tell me there were kids in manholes yesterday because I might I don't know what I would have said, but um but they they it was fine that they said that's what you do." And I and it was uh they're having a a wonderful wonderful um experience with that. And the town has
019been we're working with Lincoln and Lexington on different parts of it because you know they each control different pieces for us. But it's it's been awesome for the kids. >> Great. Thank you. You're welcome. >> Thank you. Other school committee members and any any other additional questions on the budget book? Yes, Sharon. >> Um, so this is a silly one. Um, but on page seven when it's talking about all the different schools that are 2025 kids have gone to, is there any particular reason why Cornell is bold and the rest of them are not? >> It's Ivy League. >> So, we are trying our best and we will do this on our um website as well. Um you you will you will know Sharon um the word on the street is if you go to
020Minute Man you cannot go to an Ivy League school. That's just not true. Um every year we have kids go to Ivy League schools. So we need to do a better job at making sure people understand yes you can go into the military, you can go into the workforce, you could go to Cornell. It's actually more options not limited options. >> Beautiful. And then on page 20, I was just curious as to is it like are we expecting on the theater revenue, are we expecting that to go significantly higher for the remainder of the year? It just seems like it's a huge drop off from previous years. >> I'm going to share my screen um just so everyone can kind of see as we're looking. So, this is conservative um projections. Uh Michelle did have
021uh one group that um is interested in renting the theater. They haven't committed yet. So, it's just uh something that if it's we we don't have an invoice yet. It's not in our system. I can't, you know, in good faith in a budget book throw that in there. Um but, you know, there there are people that are interested in renting out the theater. We had a group um that rented it every Sunday um the whole year, more of a church group. Um so that has unfortunately dropped off, but we do anticipate that number to go up. I just didn't feel comfortable um you know know kind of projecting higher um without having those kind of concrete um commitments from from those. We have you know gymnastics or dance competitions um that go on. So I
022do anticipate that number to go up. Thank you. And one more question, and I I know I've asked this before, but can you just explain a little bit in a little more detail kind of I know that the the assessments to the towns are based on the 4-year average, but then you also said that it's something to do with like the um the housing market or the cost of living in those towns or something. Can you just explain that to me one more time? Cuz I see that we have four of our nine are being assessed more this year because their numbers have gone up and I'm assuming it also has to do with the cost of living and then the other nine are less than previous years. So I just want to get a
023clearer understanding. >> Yes. So let me So this is the page you we'd kind of want to look at. Um and so part of our um regional agreement is how that's broken out, but you can see here all of our member towns and then we estimate uh a minimum required contribution that these numbers will be updated when the governor's budget comes out. Um specifically for Lexington, that number increased about 20% this year. I specifically looked at that one. So um that's kind of where our baseline starts. Um, and there's also um a breakout of the transportation, but in our regional agreement, it says that our operating budget is based on the 4-year rolling average. So, um, in our PowerPoint slide, which I can pull up, um, I do a correlation because, you know, even though
024we say our budget is only increasing 2.99%. And our assessments are only increasing 2.89%. um you know there is some you know you hate to say kind of push back when assessments are going up higher than that. So we try to like to show the towns it makes a little bit more sense when your you know assessment is going up because your enrollment is going up. Um the piece that is a little bit trickier is on the capital. So like the debt and the capital assessments here um the breakout is different. So, the capital breakout, which I can show you here, is it's uh 50% uh enrollment or the 4-year rolling average, it's 41% of this combined effort. So, if you actually look here, there's different percentages. Um, so we actually go to each of
025the towns here and we grab the foundation enrollment, the combined effort yield, and then we take the percentage and it it, you know, we're getting really into the weeds here, but the combined effort capital assessment chair, that is the um property values, kind of the wealth of the town, what they can afford. So that's 41%. And then I'm going to scroll back up. Um then we have a 1% per community. So um even you know even though do has a smaller portion than Arlington everyone is assessed at capital um 1%. And this calculation um is completed in um in agreement or however the regional agreement dictates it to be. So these p these slides kind of here or these pages really show how that calculation works. Um we did talk to Carolyn Cosnoff, the assistant
026town manager uh for Lexington and she recommended that we meet um with Eric Michaelelsson and the Lexington I believe it's either warrant or finance committee prior. Um, so we're gonna have a special kind of meeting for Lexington because of that big increase this year to just make sure that all of the questions are answered um and everyone is um very clear about um what the assessment is looking like in particular because of the the um the school building um being voted this year as well. Okay, Sharon, I am going to give you some sound bites because I don't think what all the detail you just all heard is something that's repeatable necessarily. Um, so basically the assessments are based on the 4-year rolling average and the standard elements that are in our regional agreement period.
027The fluctuating elements are those things that Nikki mentioned like ability to pay, home value. Is it average um income in the town also? Nikki, >> can you can we pull >> I would love to pull those out so Sharon could just have that piece >> because I think the question is about the why, not necessarily about the equation. And you know what? Oh, Sharon, you're on mute. >> Sorry. Like, I mean, we were up 16 students. Like, of the four towns that were up last year, Conquer was up one, Lancaster was up four, Needam was up five, Lexington was up 16. Like, it makes sense. And I think it's great that we have more students that are accessing the the, you know, amazing things that we have to offer at Minute Man. I just I
028want to be prepared when either going to town meeting or talking to select board members like I just want to make sure that I understand kind of why we're you know hey it's up 3% but we're up 16%. So, >> oh, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. The combined effort yield, the definition or how I explain it is the measure of a community's ability to pay for education using property values and household incomes to the percent of each community's students enrolled at Minute Man. So, that's why it takes the foundation enrollment of the whole town. It kind of breaks it up. >> Thank you, Nikki. And you know what? We will follow up with a little blurb. Can you make a note, Nikki, that we'll send a little email to Sharon with those bullets? >>
029Alice has a comment. >> Just quickly, Heidi and Nikki, like if when you guys meet with Eric, like I'm happy to join you if you want me to. Like I don't know when that will be, but it if that is helpful at all. >> Thank you, Alice. >> My comment was that in the past it has been valuable to remind people that we don't define the combined effort yield stuff. We don't actually determine the ability to pay that that's done by the state and it's very complicated and very few people in the state understand how they do it. So we we don't do it. We can we can try to understand it but I never try to explain how that's done because I don't understand it and it's not us who do it. We don't
030do it. It's the state. I just point at the state and say that's we get that from elsewhere. >> Yeah. So all of these numbers are pulled directly as Alice mentioned from the the Desi state website. >> Yeah. And they're a mystery, >> right? And and Sharon, I have I have never uh attempted uh to explain any of these spreadsheets in all my 27 years here. So four-year rolling average is the part that I'm most interested in. That explains most of it. For the rest of it, I call the superintendent. you want to know more about it, superintendent and the business manager is the one you speak to and I'm not going to even attempt to answer it. >> Yeah. >> Thank you, Jeff. >> And to be fair, Jeff, like Eric has been involved
031in the Minute Man budget for such a long time that he normally like goes through the whole thing with a fine tooth comb and is like, "It looks great. I just wanted to have a >> No, absolutely right. But it's your it's not your uh job >> to even attempt to point at these spreadsheets and explain the weeds. 40% >> happily I'll happily pass along pass >> beyond the 40% rolling average that's the part that's under our purview to some extent otherwise you you want to know the details don't even pretend to point to these spreadsheets just hand it over to the superintendent I think that Pam had a comment on this as well >> yeah and and it basically for many many for many years actton was the one who was so far up
032above anyone else and as um Nikki knows I've been very nervous going into all of our meetings with them. And it was exactly what Jeff said. I concentrated on the fact of isn't it wonderful so many more kids from Actton are choosing Minute Man. And if they wanted to know, and they seldom went a whole lot deeper than that, but if they did, like, you know, Nikki and the superintendent are the ones to take that. And I would just keep focusing on how wonderful it is that more kids from Actton are accessing Minute Man. >> Thanks everybody. Just just to update all of you um separately it looks like act and boxboro I'm getting all the everybody's closing tomorrow Arlington so we will also be um calling it for tomorrow just so you know that'll
033be coming out shortly >> Charlene >> uh I guess I'm in the same boat as um my friend from Lexington so um and I think I have the added complication that um folks in my town look at the debt divided by the number of students and say what um which is obviously not you know not good math but I think I would like to have a meeting outside of the of this uh meeting with the superintendent and the business office to um see where we stand with Lancaster >> the Lancaster town manager. >> We do. They came to our um our breakfast >> um and he seemed like he was in good shape. Lexington definitely wanted to follow up. Um Arlington is concerned, but they said we're the least of their worries. Any other any
034other comments from that group, Nikki? >> No. when I I did have a um you know an introductory uh conversation with the Lancaster town manager. I told him you know there hasn't been a consistent one. The needs of the town have varied. Um so I said please reach out to us. We'd be happy to um attend any meetings um as needed. Um yeah, I mean I think Arlington actually is a decrease this year. So even though they're what they're going to be going for the biggest override in state history, um Minute Man is not on their um >> radar. Yes, radar. >> Right. So just as a general comment uh and this comes up of course all the time when uh a town uh assessment increases because they have more students going to the school.
035I never apologize. I'm never s the the least bit sympathetic because that's the way it is. And by the way, doing it as a 4year rolling average is the intelligent way to do it because it it it reduces dramatic changes to your budget. So, I never back off. I never apologize for those things. You have more students coming to the school, that's great. they're getting an experience that may be life-changing in a positive way for them. Uh, as far as uh the overall budget goes, we can discuss that. I have no trouble discussing that. Sometimes our we have a larger increase than they want. Um, uh, the other argument that comes up frequently is, well, this is a very hard year for our town. So, for this year, don't you think you should be more
036conservative in your budget? And my answer to that is that every year is a hard year for one of our member towns. So we really cannot look at that. We do look at the overall environment, the overall challenge to our towns every year, but we really can't take into account each individual town or we would always have a uh a dangerously low budget increase. Now, the other things I'm sympathetic to, there are lots of things that are out of our control. Obviously, inflation and um the state formulas that are uh are mind-boggling. Uh and I just pass that on to the administration and argue the things that um that I'm comfortable with, which is the four-year rolling average. I'm very comfortable with that. and the fact that uh we do take into account uh what
037economic conditions every single year. We have a lot of discussions about that but we really do not take on um the fact that an individual town even though we're sympathetic may be having a challenging year because otherwise we would never have a good year for our budget because there's always somebody who's for their internal reasons having a challenge. So that's just that's how I've kind of handled those things and the hard questions I just give to the smart people. Alice and then back to Sharon. >> Um I just wanted to say that this the cases that are made have not changed over the past 30 years. All these arguments are the same arguments every single year. There's always, you know, over 60% of the town's budget is schools. Well, that's not changed at all. It's
038always the same. um nothing has changed and they always try to well not everybody but somebody's going to try to add the capital project they build a 30-year debt and then divide that by the number of students who are currently in the school and then and think that's a meaningful number which it isn't. And um they never do that with a fire station, right? They don't say, "Well, we're going to add the fire station debt to the to the total budget of the fire station this year. we're going to divide it by like how many fires were there in the town. Like they don't do that. So, it's really a school thing. And you really just have to stick to the regional agreement is for the four-year rolling average. We did it to help you.
039We actually did that was done to help the towns. Um it was kind of novel at the time. You know, not many districts had done it and we did it to smooth it out and and we're helping them and and a lot of them recognize it. So, just stick to the positive and don't get um sucked into this stuff because it's the same every year. >> And I'd say two years ago, I think the big question that came up too was just asking about how many of the students from town who had applied were accepted. And then I'm accurate that the last two years it was everybody that applied, correct? I mean, at least the last two, probably beyond that. >> Yes. >> Beautiful. anticipate we'll do that again this year. >> That makes them
040happy, too. >> So, let me just point out uh to the administration that none of these questions are because the budget book was not clear and transparent. The budget book is a very well-ritten, very clear, very transparent document that allows us to ask these questions, most of which has been on strategies of communicating to our member towns. So I just want to point that out that that is the type of questions we're getting not this was unclear this was unclear at all which is uh I think a very big benefit of how the administration has proceeded on this and I hope the comments from um the fincom Pam I just wanted to I agree with everything that's Being said, I also want to point out that um Actton is one of those towns that has
041been in a special situation for a number of years now and continues to be in a you know special budget crunch situation. um that Heidi got major brownie points last year from our finance committee because she didn't come in and say, "Hey, this is the way it is. You need to accept it." But really listened to them. We didn't change anything, but really, you know, came across as someone who was willing to listen, took their concerns seriously, and I think it made an enormous difference. So, I just wanted to um point that out. >> And if any school community member uh is nervous about interacting with their town in this issue, um Heidi and Nikki are available and they will support you so you're not alone in this, right? >> Yeah. >> And and I'm
042sorry. And Nikki provided such clear information, like just clear factual information they couldn't argue with. So, I just want to like it's it was a incredible team for a town that is like counting every penny. >> Thank you, Pam. >> She's trying to have us forget that we were there until 11:15 at night at town meeting, but I do remember still. Pam, it's okay. >> I see no I see no additional hands going up, so I think that we are uh D. Yep. Go ahead. >> That hand went up. Yep. Thank you. U just a couple of quick questions and um I'm wondering I'm reading my notes here. Um do you anticipate possible changes to course offerings at this time for next year? >> That's not a budget question. So that's not appropriate for this
043meeting. >> That's not a budget question. Okay. Um well this is tangential to a budget question. How can we expand visibility or is that um not >> that's also not a budget question. We actually have a committee that is >> looking at that. Okay. >> Then I have no further questions. >> Great. >> Or none. >> Okay. So uh Sarah headed the chair of the fincom, you have the last word. Do you have any final comments or words for wisdom for this school committee moving forward on um the budget process? >> No, just want to um echo the thanks to Heidi, Nikki, and the administration for their work they did in all the different iterations. Appreciate your help. >> Okay. Well, I hope that um we're going to have the the budget from the governor
044soon. I hope there are no substantive changes. If they're not, you will not have to attend an extra meeting. Uh we will continue with this process and and February 5th is currently our scheduled day to present this to the public and to take our actual votes on it, the ones that count, the ones that fix the budget and the assessments. And that's coming up fast. And I thank um Heidi and Nikki and other administration officials who've been working on creating a document that is uh very easy for us to work with other than the crazy numbers that are that the that the state puts together somehow which are magic. So on that note, I would like a motion to adjurnn. Please move. >> Second. >> Very good. Uh Pam >> Pam Nuros Sackton yes. >>
045Sarah Matscu Arlington yes. >> Linda Herbison Bolton yes. >> Dorter conquered yes. >> Maruy Dover yes. >> Carling Lancaster yes. >> Sharon Mos Lexington yes. >> Jeff Dulan. Yes. Alice is on mute. >> Ducas Joe. Yes. >> Great. So thank you all. I hope those of you who are not feeling well will feel better soon. Um uh I guess you got another day off there, Heidi. A day off for you, >> right? When the students aren't here. Yeah. >> I'm talking to superintendent right now. All >> Yes. >> Okay. >> All right. >> So, thank you all for coming to this kind of extra meeting and uh have a great night and finish off. >> Thank you everybody. Good night. >> Thank you. Thank you. Keep warm. Keep safe. >> Feel better. Palace.