001Order, the facilities and operations subcommittee meeting of April 6th, 2026. Let's call the roll. Mr. Aguiar. Yes, here. Mr. Dias. Here. Mr. Moniz. Here. All right, salute the flag, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you so much. Pursuant to the open meeting law, any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium. Attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are being made, whether perceived or unperceived by those present, and are deemed acknowledged and permissible. Citizen input time. I think we have one person, Jeff Cart, and Adam Superczynski. You can come up. Hi. I am a
002resident who lives near the Stone School, and on weekends, there are many lights always left on. I know it would be save some money for the schools if they were shut off on the weekend. Same situation at Durfee. When you drive by, there are always a lot of classroom lights left on. I know there is a remote way way to shut them off, but the position is currently vacant. Who is in charge of the lights? I have attached the picture of Stone School. I don't have a picture of Durfee, but could get one if needed. Best regards. Thank you. Mr. Pacheco, do you want to just answer that just so for the clarification of the public? >> Sure. So, um most of the buildings, um for instance, in that particular picture, uh the hallways stairwells,
003they're always lit. Um most of that is public safety reasons. If they need to enter the building at night, um there are not many lights that would stay on. Uh classrooms, if there's a classroom light on, that should have been off, but um not necessarily anything other than that. So, main hallways, atriums, um it's def- definitely uh stairwells uh should always be lit for public safety reasons. So, we everything else should shut should go on and off. Um almost all of our buildings have daylight harvesting, but they also have um a uh uh occupancy uh sensors, so they should be off in the classroom. If they're on, >> [clears throat] >> that's a mechanical issue that we need to take care of. And somebody, I'm sure, must check that to let you know if there's
004>> We do. periodically if a bunch of classrooms are on, we'll get to it. We do. Yes. Thank you so much. Sure. Mr. Dias. Um just very quickly, um and I know um I brought up the Durfee situation before, and um I don't know if there is um there's like a code or just um just best practices to leave the lights on if um if if someone comes in, I don't know if we're turning them off like after like if there's a night shift for custodian and security if they're Right. So, second shift second shift custodians, so someone's coming by the building, especially in the wintertime after 5:00, it's already dark outside, the the rooms would be dark unless a custodian is in and out doing their particular duty in those classrooms. We also at
005Durfee High School have a third shift custodians, so again, those individual classrooms, if they're picking up um maybe for an absence of a second shift person going in to cover an area, that may be on um and then areas like the gym would normally be done on second shift unless there's sporting events, which could go into a third shift, and then those those areas would be lit. In this particular picture, I see that one classroom that may may be a classroom space. I would have to look closer at the building that may have been left on inadvertently because that building does not have it has automatics as far as occupancies, but if someone overrode overrode that with a switch, then we would have to check on that. And that one I can take a look
006at, but those hallways, those corners are hallway lights on that building. Thank you. Um last um point, and again, not we can get an update on this uh just to keep the meeting going, but um I know we have the facilities manager position in the budget, it only doesn't I know that position's specifically for Durfee. Yes. Um maybe there could be a conversation of um and I know it's unfilled currently, but maybe expanding those duties in the future so it covers um if we keep that position, it it don't even cover um situations such as this in other schools. Mr. Dias, on that point, um that in that facility manager's um it does say that at the at the request of of myself um and now Josh, if they need that person to go out
007and look at a, you know, another facility, um to have a sec- second set of you know, second set of eyes, um that that would be okay. So, it's in the job description already to do things that you just mentioned. We just sent out Is there any applicants? Have we We have about a dozen applicants, and um we would like to fill that before the end of this school year. Um Josh has been filling in for quite some time at Durfee since it became vacant, and um we've been fortunate that it's it's worked, um but it is a lot of extra work. Durfee, the plant itself is a big building to keep, you know, running. Um The plan is not not to fill it again. No, no, I I mean Yes. This has been taking
008a long time based on whatever Trying to find the right fit. Um you know, having having the skill set. Um And and there's a variety of applicants um that have one or two pieces of that skill set, so um we're just being a little picky right now. All right, sounds good. Chris, let us know. Uh 2.01 is an update on the school resource officer. So, we have carried this forward uh from prior meetings, so we do have a the old MOU, we have a new MOU, but I'd like to just get into the um Before we start with those two, just about the finances of the current um SROs and the sergeant. Uh pleased to welcome Chief Harwood, Chief. Welcome. Thank you. Um you wanted to just uh maybe just run down how that works,
009maybe the timing on our budgets run from July 1 to June 30th. Yep. So, when we know how much everybody's going to get, what is the information, and then we have some questions on the hours and [snorts] that type of thing. So, as far as budget's concerned, obviously we run the same with the municipal schedule as we do with you guys. So, uh as far as the numbers are concerned, um we did have uh one of the SROs just got promoted to sergeant, so he was transferred out of the unit. He was then quickly replaced with another officer. Um but if you're asking for the basically the lines of each salary that they're getting, so right now it looks like there is four officers at approximately 88,684. Uh there's one officer at 82,853. >> [cough
010and clears throat] >> There's one officer at 71,260. There's one officer at 93,098. And the sergeant is at 104,754, I believe. That's all in the fiscal 26 budget that's posted on the the website. >> So, that would be their salaries starting July 1. Correct. That's their annual salary. >> we would know how much we're going to be paying. >> salary, correct. Including everything. >> [clears throat] >> So, after the we had just discussed some things about traffic, actually, Mhm. and it came up to wonder how much are we paying uh the sergeant. That was something we added a couple years ago because the sergeant does pretty much They're the sergeant for that for those seven people. >> Correct. So, made sense for us to pay that. Sure. But um it came to our attention that
011there was overtime automatic overtime. So, This is the start of the year, so I'm trying to figure out where How does that fit into the um So, the overtime is not factored into the figures I just kind of roughly gave you there. Um but based on the MOU that we've been working with, there's basically 10-hour days that every SRO is working, and that's been going on since I was before I was the SRO sergeant back in 2017. Um so, that practice, I don't know when it started, but it's a 10-hour day, so there's a built-in 2 hours of overtime each day for those officers. So, each officer gets 10 hours of perpetual overtime based on those extended days. And what exactly do they do? I'm in favor of the SROs. I don't want to make
012sugarcoat it, but at the end of the day, the overtime that I understand from the being here, that Superintendent has to approve the overtime. [snorts] Okay. Which would be on the our sheets and talk about it, but if when it's built in, it it starts to really What what Why are we doing that? And when I just look at a 7-hour day, just, you know, 7-hour school day, 8-hour work day, 10 hours like we had mentioned this to the vice superintendent, but and she said they work 6:30 to 4:30 or something They do. thing. So, what What exactly is happening? Take us like the day of So, they have an initial roll call, so all of the SROs get together for roll call at the station. They're obviously doing any type of information sharing or
013any directors or safety bulletins that come out, so there could be things that have happened overnight that they should be concerned with in proximity to the schools or maybe involving potential school students so that they're aware. Um and then they they deploy to their schools. They complete their day. They stay until after the school is done, uh making sure all the students are off of the premises, and if anything is being disclosed or what have you, they they basically are there for the security and um communication piece. They return to the station. They have a debrief and then they're done. That's these that's basically where it's at. I think when I was the SRO sergeant, there were things with extended days and it was just easy to put everybody on the same schedule so that
014they would start and finish all together and keep everyone on the same page. If you're wanting to adjust that, I understand your concern. I mean, we're willing to to adjust that. I think the schools would just have to understand that there's going to be less coverage based on the hours that we can spell out in the MOU. I mean, we're flexible. >> So 6:30 is a roll call? Is that the correct? And then It just begs the question of 6:30 is a roll call, they get in at 6:45, we have schools that start at all different times. We have some traffic issues, so I I think there might be some room for um some overtime when it's targeted towards certain things, but quite honestly, I just think that's an additional expense that we don't necessarily
015um Because if we pay the expense for that, and then we need something extra to pay for that. >> of the past practices that was there is that anything that goes beyond as it relates to investigative or if there's an arrest at the end of the day, once that 10-hour period is exhausted, we would assume it in our budget. So if there's a continued investigation, let's say there was a crime committed and we needed to do interviews or what have you and the SRO was wrapped up in that, the overtime would come out of our budget. So there is a stop gap there where it isn't an unlimited amount of overtime that you would have, you know, uptick there. So that's something that is not enumerated in the MOU, but that's something that I know
016over the last 7-plus years that we've we've done that where they would take the overtime from our budget. Any questions? Mr. Diaz. Thank you. The SRO supervisor positions, I went through the um both MOUs the proposed and um the the one we're working with now. The SROs are supposed to report to the building principal. The SRO sergeant, who would they who would be their point of contact? The superintendent doesn't meet with the police chief or So you talk about span of control in any organization and the photo police is tall. So the reason why we have an SRO supervisor is they're the coordinator. So those officers do answer to the principal, but they're always looping in that sergeant and sometimes the principals calling the sergeant because there might be something that requires resources to be
017moved from schools. You know, we've had incidents happen, you know, Durfee we wanted to bulk up the manpower there for the presence for the security of the students or if there's a special event or so what have you. So a lot of that gets relayed through the sergeant. I know Mr. Pacheco is in direct contact with that SRO sergeant if there's ever a concern district-wide. So he's the coordinator. I understand how the MOU works and that is correct in the sense of day-to-day, they're going to answer to the principal, but that sergeant is always looped in on any decision-making. Okay. Um and I asked this um through the administration if we can just get Does a copy of all the job descriptions and I understand it falls under the police department as it should, but
018since we're just paying for it, just seeing if um just get a copy of not just for the supervisor, but just for all um the um actual SRO position as well. You want their job description as we have it laid out in policy as far as police officers' expected tasks? Or do you want cuz essentially when we take this MOU, we adopt that as kind of the policy as it relates to SROs cuz this is additional responsibilities above and beyond a normal patrol officer. So I can give you the patrol officer duties and responsibilities job description and then this would just be enumerated on top of that. Oh, so there isn't a like um I guess the way I know it's different from education to police, like for all positions we have an actual job
019description for what your for what your duties and responsibilities are? Um so that doesn't exist like in terms of >> No, that's not what I said. There's a There's a foundational um job description for every police officer in the building. This MOU gets adopted as the school resource policy, which then outlines additional duties and responsibilities. So if you take those two slices of bread, there's the sandwich for what an SRO is. Okay. I think when you see it visually, it'll make sense. >> Yeah, I like I know what you're saying. It's generic like a teacher has a duty. If you're a chemistry teacher, you might have some specific things or There's some similarities to what you're saying, but I think when I send you the duties and responsibilities of an actual police officer and then
020you put this cuz there's some I wouldn't say restrictions, but there's some guardrails in this MOU language that kind of points more towards diversion and you know, lower impact stuff than you know, a regular police officer responding on the street would act differently based on their duties and responsibilities. Okay. And um I'm I'm I'm just The SROs that we have currently, has it been like pretty steady or like do they get like switched out from time to time? >> No, it's been it's been steady. We do have one right now that's out on leave that should be returning at the end of the month, but it's been the same cadre of people for the last 3 years, I believe. Thank you. Um In terms of I know we talked about briefly if the start times
021are being staggered and that goes from school to school. If there is a um so they're going to roll call at 6:30 and we're paying for how how many hours of overtime in the morning? Is it 1 or 2? It's 1 hour in the 1 in the morning, 1 in the afternoon. So it's 2 hours a day. To 8:30, if the start time for a school and I don't have that in front of me, but if it's before 8:30 so how most of that time is overtime until 8:30? Well, I think one of the things that complicates the coverage is obviously within the collective bargaining agreement with the police department, there are set hours. So I think that's one of the things that's kind of a moving target. So I kind of see where you're
022going as the guiding light. Like if I'm an officer assigned to a school that is only open 8:00 to 3:00, then I should be responding to that school at 8:00 if we're trying to reduce overtime. The problem is is that the hours that are spelled out in the collective bargaining agreement are different in the sense of what they're expected to work. So to try to have every SRO on a different schedule creates a lot of inconsistency with at least I would ask that at least in the morning that they're all on the same schedule and then they deploy to their schools cuz I think it's very important that they start the day all on the same page. As far as debriefing at the end of the day, we can find a way to kind of
023accommodate that. All right. I think the issue is um and I think there's something we should address in the future. The school department doesn't have a seat at the table when we're negotiating like between like the police union and the city. Hopefully that's something we can change we can recommend to the administration to the city changing in the future just because I'm whoever I don't know who's negotiating on the other side for the city, but they don't have like the understanding of what happens in the schools. So that's something I would definitely recommend to the city just to have a voice from the school department at the table. Um So same things like when if we're if they're going to 4:30 for example, Durfee High School I believe closes at What time does Durfee close?
0242:50 2:50. Um So we're paying for 2 hours in the beginning. So what would they and it's going until 4:30. Are they staying for events after school or they They're staying for events or they're helping out with the other traffic or they're hap With Durfee, we've got instances where the the students have been Luckily, I'm not going to go with nothing's really happened this year, but they're going over to CVS and and all those areas over there. So these those SROs have been deployed over there to help with just pushing those students out to the the proper transport or moving along. Um And I don't know if that's And just speaking from personal experience, just 2 days ago um or it was Thursday. It was It was Thurs- last Thursday or Wednesday. I went through
025Durfee and I drove down Elsbree Street and um I didn't see any crossing guards. I didn't see any I don't know if the SROs would go in if there's like a lack of crossing guards if they would help in managing traffic. I don't know. It just didn't look good the traffic issue there. But I don't know if that's within their scope or within their purview to help out. Well, I couldn't tell you on that day if there was something else more priority, so Um Just going through the um I don't know if we have the data on this going through this MOU. >> We're not to the MOU yet. We're still on the um dollars and >> I have the dollars and cents and then we're going to go over the MOU. Okay, so I
026can ask questions about >> Yeah, of course. I I yield for now. It's my turn now? Yes. Um question as far as your your training and stuff like that for these officers. Now, um do we pay for any additional training as far as you guys that know the buildings or let's say something did happen at Durfee, knowing the building at all are these guys the ones that you would go to if there was a problem in the building? So if you had like a lockdown and there was an area that was breached So I think the best examples of that is that a lot of those officers are part of our emergency services unit, too. So there's a lot of shared information there as it relates to not only our emergency services unit being prepared
027for that type of situation, but getting that out to the other officers. So we do We're an accredited police agency, so we do tabletop exercises all the time and we do a lot of debriefs. But But you guys do not go into the building and practice at all to to know the the buildings or be familiarized with the building. >> We do We do do it at Durfee. We've done it at Diamond, obviously. I know it's not part of this meeting, but we we do do that. Um we just started a new training program for our new officers, which is called FRP FRP University. They do spend 2 days with our emergency services unit going over floor plans, going over walk-throughs, room clearing, uh different things as it relates to active shooter response and understanding
028that. As far as the cost to the district, uh I think the only thing we've ever asked from the district uh is potentially funding sometimes for the uh trainings for like train the trainer type stuff, but also just the the leave of absence from duty for the officers to be able to attend the training. It's not an additional overtime cost for the for the district. Got it. The The only request I'd make of the administration is to try to get some history on what Deputy Chief mentioned about the overtime being 10 hours for multiple years or I don't remember what he said, but I think I know when I was a sergeant in 2017, that was the that was the standard. It was 5 hours Sorry, it was 2 hours a day for 10 hours
029a week. Yeah. So, I think at some point I think the MOU might call for some of this, but I'm just looking strictly that at the dollars and cents of what is it count towards net school spending and how whether um it was always 10 hours and then if that's the case, then those numbers and when you Well, I think it's because the MOU speaks to the the school the the hours of work being 6:30 to 4:30, so that's a 10-hour day. So, the only way to get the 10 hours is when you have the meshing of what's expected from this MOU and the collective bargaining agreement with the the uh for the police association. That's where the two extra hours cuz they work 8 hours a day. So, I think there might be some
030language we can look at in the MOU when we get to that portion to maybe segment that out there. >> Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out the history. Of course. >> we get here now because at that point they shouldn't look at When I [snorts] look at the overtime sheet of So, we budget 300,000, salaries are 710,000. That 90,000 in overtime to me is not what's the what you just explained is the normal stuff. Overtime to me is we need you there's traffic issues or whatever, so we're going to have to add a couple of hours overtime. Right. That comes out of overtime. Right. I think all overtime is supposed to be signed off by the superintendent. But at the end of Just looking back history to see where it's at. Okay, for sure.
031That's one follow-up on the money. Um my colleague um brought up the training and um actually you basically you answered the the question um where it comes out of for a train the trainer. Um I guess this is actually not more for you or for if whoever in the administration find out if um for the train the trainer, is this are they [clears throat] leaving the district? Sometimes. I know when I was in the SRO, they sent me for ALICE training to get the trainer certification for that so that we could be able to do that type of training. Um have we done that recently? No, but yeah, sometimes they do leave the district. A lot of the training is sponsored by the Mass Police Training uh Committee, so it's free to the agency. Um
032so, it's just a matter of a leave of absence for them to attend it. Um I guess this is more of like an internal policy question. We currently have a policy where um if um I know for the non-SROs like typical employees, they would um if they're leaving the district, they would get put on the agenda and we would approve that the school committee would approve that. Um not sure. I don't recall in my year and a half of being on the on the committee, almost 2 years of seeing that ever come before for an SRO. I think that's because they technically still work for the employees of the former police department. So, they're here as part of the MOA, but so I think that's sort of a they have to worry about it, which
033they would also, in my opinion, backfill even if our guy that worked here needed to leave. The SRO sergeant's duties, I believe, is to come in and make sure you backfill. We actually did that last year. Last year, we had a mandated training that POST has now put in place where you have to do uh training two of the two two training days with 16 hours, so we had to have all the SROs go and we actually brought in people to backfill the SRO positions so that they wouldn't be completely vacated cuz I'd have every SRO out of the district during a regular school day uh is not It's not good. Would that come out of overtime budget or would that Nope, that's just a change of duty status. So, those guys were already scheduled
034for those days, they would change status to training, they go to the training. We ended up having officers that we came out of our budget and not out of overtime for that. And they were they were all former SROs actually. I remember that. I remember those two days. Cuz they were all guys that had either got promoted out, so they were sa- they were mostly sergeants and lieutenants actually that came back to to backfill those positions those days. The The last question I have on training just because it's in I don't I know we don't want to get to a new um but it's a financial question. Um if we have um So, I don't know if it's a proposal that's highlighted 12 hours of SRO training. Not sure where that would come out of.
035We or maybe find out later. Well, we'll let's pause that for a second. So, any other questions on the finances? I think we can get some info and I appreciate that. So, next up is the um MOU I It used to be called something else though. I don't know what it used to be. It was two documents. Is this now combined into one? Yeah, so this the language in this MOU is the um actual model language that has been uh mitigated to this because it was presented from DESE kind of working with the commission to produce this. So, this document was born from that and it's been Yeah. So, it For those that have seen it, it reads very familiar. Yes. But they used to have a I I I guess standard operating procedure. Correct,
036which was a document that was the had a different type So, we had two things going on at the same time, so right. What we're looking at is the one that looks like this is the recommended. And as I mentioned it in the previous segment is that if if executed, this would be adopted into our SOP. So, that this would be spelled out. The only thing I would ask is could we go through We don't have to go through the whole thing, but any recommended changes that are highlighted in yellow, I would assume. And if there's things that we we want to take home and go over and go would like to have or is this total agreement? What are your Well, I I think that everything in here So, we did have a couple
037of sessions um Deputy with um with I think um besides the SROs, we did have Lieutenant maybe Yep. and Captain here uh going over. So, those those highlights um along with the superintendent uh were the ones that we were looking to change um and um and work on. Uh It might have been a little language added and it might have been something that we wanted to remove. Um but it is it is that that particular um those particular items in yellow Yeah. that we were interested in. Are any of those uh Deputy Chief uh problematic? Are there things that you think we need to change uh more than any We This is the subcommittee. We're going to forward this to the full committee. Sure. So, there'll be some additional time. The first section that I
038reviewed is the uh I think the bulleted points were around the low-level offenses. Um I read the section. I think the important thing in that section is just to understand the spirit of that language is that we do understand that there's some low-level offenses that can be handled by regular school discipline and that the solution's not always placing uh a child into the criminal justice system. But I think we do a very good job in our relationships that we have in the district, so that language I have no issue with. Um obviously, it talks about misdemeanor misdemeanor allegations, threats, assault and battery, larceny, receiving stolen property, willful, malicious, or wanton destruction or injury to personal property. So, that would be like vandalism. Um those are usually things that are either regular school discipline or diverted
039to youth court. And then youth court does a great job with those kids. Um so, I have no issue with that language I have no issue. >> on that one would be uh whether it's an absolute or not because functionally in a school Mhm. you know, if somebody might have uh an allegation of threat that you guys might think it's a misdemeanor or whatever, but we know either back story, so I think there has to be some flexibility. I don't think the rigidity of this I think would be a problem as far as being a school administrator. Destruction of property, wanton destruction of property, larceny, you know, like some of those things I think should be um part of it, but I understand the idea is not to put everyone into it. >> Mhm. Um
040I see how you're reading that cuz it puts the full control in the administrator and in determining if it's going to be something that can be handled by the police. I think that this the spirit of the language is different than how you it can be interpreted, right? So, I think it could be cleaned up a little to maybe make it more of like a a meeting that happens with the SRO and the administrator. I mean, some of these things are past things that have happened that are being brought up days later, but you know, if there's an act If somebody brought If a child brought something to school like a spray paint can and was spray painting lockers, then that's something that's going to take immediate intervention, would probably result in some type of
041summons, um but that's going to get diverted at the juvenile court level more than likely to be kicked back out for Yeah. I I totally get it. I think I think cleaning that up might Yeah. help us So, like the last line says, "School staff shall not ask an SRO to serve as a school disciplinary disciplinary enforcer of school regulations." I understand that. But what's above is not school regulations. So, I think somehow we have to And there is something also to be said for you know you're going to get charged and if they divert it they divert it but you have to uh lay the law down sometimes. So I I would only say that the very first line the parties acknowledged that it may be appropriate for school administrators the the meetings that
042the deputy is talking about happen I 10 times a day in all the schools. The the I I see it at Durfee and RPA the most because I'm at those places the most. Um but they're they're forever meeting with the principals the vice principals um the sacks after these incidents happen or after they're brought to light. So that actually is happening and they have a discussion you know do you do you think you know the SRO might ask the administration or the administration might say you know do you think this does warrant you know being charged and I think some of that has to do with I think the child's background in the school and also their background with law enforcement. Um so I I think a lot all of that is taken into consideration
043I think. Yeah I would just say that if that's happening already why are we adding it? That's where my mind's at. So if it's already happening in a the proper way with the proper communication it's added here for a reason so we got time to clean it up for the full committee. Do you have any thoughts on that Mr. Burke? No I We are not the agent of the police department they're not our agents so we know that. We want to make sure that we offer students you know the opportunity to get themselves you know turned around and and get back into the daily these guys I have had uh excellent relationships with my police department so I worked with them all my SROs so I can only imagine that we're going to have a
044great relationship here. I look forward to it. Um I certainly agree with you. We don't we don't want you to do our job and we certainly don't want to do your job and there there are sometimes that we have to come together and talk about it and then decide how the student's going to go forward but to your point just just tying that up I think it's good and I and I will certainly continue to work with the principals and and the administrators to support you know conflict resolution and and just that the full collaboration >> is key. Absolutely. Absolutely. Mr. Diaz. Thank you and just on on that point specifically I think some of these and I think it just comes down more as a policy decision. I mean assault and battery that should
045be zero tolerance in my opinion and I'm sure you would agree. Well I mean assault and battery sounds bad but it can be just an unwanted touching and in fear of being harmed. So that's assaults in fear of being harmed unwanted touching is a battery. So there's different levels of assault and battery. Um you know people get into a shoving match is that appropriate to put a child into the criminal justice system? We've put that through youth court before and had a youth court at the end of the two kids end up becoming friends and they're serving on the youth court uh you know staff if you will. Um I don't I write policy in the police department. I don't like shalls musts and all those because it gives you no latitude. So to the
046point you made Mr. Aguiar when you start putting things in words you have to be careful how you do it cuz then it it narrowly pushes it down that road and I think that one of the the spirit of the language should just be a collaborative discussion with the law enforcement party and the school administrator to come to a collective conclusion. But I think the police are going to make the decision based on what he had said around if there's a history with this child. If the child's already in youth court and there's already diversion going on that's information we're privy to that we'll be able to use that in leveraging the conversation. Thank you. Okay move on to Chuck over here. You said the truancy part right? And they would come in and on
047the way down as I was a middle school principal on the way down to the court I had blocked with um magistrate and as we walked down she would say uh the dockets right? It's like listen take this one back take this one back take this one back let him go back to class. I want to see him someplace else. So I I appreciate that and I think the more support that we have on both ends and having like that kid in need program you know you saw him last night what do we have prepared for that kid waiting? How how can we help and support that family? I I'm a big proponent of having the school resource officers. Deputy. Are we going down the other other side? So the next section is uh the
048highlighted reporting directly to the Fall River Public Schools principal or principal's designee. Uh I think that happens in every school I think every SRO does report to the um principal. I think as you already stated they're still employees of the police department so they answer to a sergeant that's always looped into that conversation and sometimes it's not only the principal but um you know others that might contact that sergeant. The next I certainly don't have an issue with that. The salary question and and what's covered um Mr. Diaz had brought up around training required by the agreement and what's paid for by the district. Uh it would be something directly related to the duties and responsibilities of the SRO position. I think the only time in the history that we've ever come to the district
049for some funding is something that would be specialty training just for the SROs or additional resources to that. I don't think we've done that for a couple of years now. Um a lot of the training is coming through uh our own professional development track within the the department. The only reason I even um brought that up is um not sure it was on the previous page but it was highlighted in yellow that there will be 12 hours of training. Not sure what the um what the prior training was if it was less or if it was more. Um but if there's going to be like a designation I think it was on page 15 so I'm not sure what it was beforehand. Well I would argue that that be striked from the MOU because the
050the training is dictated by the police officer standards and training they have to do the mandated in-service and that's something that's on our responsibility to make sure that they maintain their certification so as far as the 12 hours of training if you guys want to keep it in there then we need to spell it out to what we're going to do above and beyond what they're required to do. >> saying scratch on page 15 the SRO shall attend a minimum of 12 hours of training. Because it's mandated anyway. They're doing more than the actual in-service of a regular police officer. Thank you and I'm and I'm glad you made that point cuz it made it sound like the 12 hours we would then need to and then we're paid for all training for that 12
051hours and that would need to be spelled out and we need to have a specific budget for that so thank you. Uh but back to that section Mr. Aguiar this is where we're talking about the hours. So this MOU speaks to this during the hours of 6:30 to 4:30 so that spells out a 10-hour day there. So on that uh I'm looking at the one we have in the yellow with the strike through like the word from is is stricken so I'm assuming that everything else that's in here is was in the old one. Correct. So I don't I'm not reading it as we uh what I'm reading here is that we uh they would have worked a 40-hour work week. Their schedule shall be in accordance with the academic calendar for the Fall River
052schools. So I'm looking at 40 hours the academic calendar of the schools not necessarily this the next line where it says the standard work day shall be during the hours of 6:30 to 4:30 meaning all inclusive. I'm taking that as 40 hours within that time based on the calendar. Cuz this how I I've always assumed it and um I don't know if anybody else sees that but to me that is the issue we were talking about before. It whatever it is and then there's one in red it says start times of day may be staggered is that new? Is that recommended new? Is that what the red is? Is that what you got? Page 13 second paragraph in red is that what you know? I don't believe that's new. I think it's addressing what's above.
053Cuz the start times before we had the conversation I think Deputy the 6:30 wasn't the start. So I think that may be referring to the standard 6:30 start. Cuz I think it was staggered. I think originally we wanted staggered on both ends and that became to be a that was a problem with But hopefully you guys can get together to work with the superintendents and say what did it look like before because I I have one here but it's in very small print and I can't read it. So if we had one that just just for the edification of us all like I missed it and it said that we've been paying 10 hours. It is what it is. If people the position thinking I'm getting 10 hours then we shouldn't cut to 10 hours
054but ultimately I this kind of spells out what was in my head all along so if we can just sort of before it gets to the full committee Mr. Morrisey got anything? No. Mr. Diaz. Um on this yes um what may be outlined here somewhere maybe I missed it but when school's not in session are they going back where where are they going the SROs? Are they going back to help out with the police department for the summer or Right so there's different things that are they're either using their accumulated vacation time because they're not taking vacation during the year like they normally would. Um but that's something right now I believe that the patrol union is in negotiations trying to come up with cuz there are other police agencies that have spelled out SRO
055benefits as it relates to that position but with us they typically take their vacations in the summer in line with the school schedule. Um what they do come back for is like the teen police academy, and they come back for some of the events that happen after school is done. So, it's kind of like a trade-off there. Thank you. And just to reiterate my point, I think we should have someone either at the table or just um informing the city side as to what would be best for the school department. I don't think we have anyone that's negotiating on the school department side when it comes to that, even though that would affect Fall River Public Schools. I would say that we do because Mr. Chico or the superintendent's designee actually would weigh in on
056that. They don't go to the negotiation. >> No, but they would inform the negotiation. So, they would say, you know, what the deputy mentioned for a salary for instance, if one of them was 85,000. Mhm. That's an $85,000 salary the way I'm Correct me if I'm wrong. It's for the whole year. Mhm. During that whole year, they're working 5 days a week in the schools, whereas the other shifts are 4 and 2, 4 and 2. So, they're picking up an extra day that Mhm. they work for the whole year. So, ultimately at the end in the summer, they're getting all of those If there's 40 weeks in the school year, you got 40 weeks. >> it group 7 days. So, those days are 40. Like just for round numbers, if you added 40 separate from
057the regular vacations to the end of the year, we only have X amount of days in the summer. So, it's sort of a wash the way I see it. It's It's kind of kind of They're working more in a shorter period of time to have the time paid back later And then at that time, it's up to them what they do with in the summer. They can take overtime Right. or whatever. But I think Mr. Diaz's point is something that we The more clearly we can get with what it's costing us so that we know that we're not And I'm not accusing anybody of doing something wrong. I get it. Very transparent. This is what it is. These are the hours. Like it says in here, if you work at a nighttime event, you're going
058to get paid the detail rate, higher detail, and it goes to uh someone that goes to detail. Correct. So, it spells it right out in here. So, that's what I'm trying to get to is a point where where there's no longer this wondering. No surprises. You know, any other Mr. Diaz? Um just some things that we're going to go back and look at this. I know there's a section about training for SROs, and I don't think they're changing anything here, but just outlines um a lot of different trainings that need to Well, that's just adopting the language from the Police Reform Act. So, the training is mandated to be formulated by the MPTC. This year's training will be online. Um it hasn't been rolled out yet, but essentially what will have to happen is you
059talk about the scheduling of SROs, so when there is a break, when you have like the February vacation, that's usually when our SROs will do some of their in-service training. So, they're not using their vacation time when the school's out because they're actually changing their duty status for in-service completion. Uh we have our um we have to do qualifications for firearms twice a year. That's getting filtered in, so they'll be doing that during April vacation. So, there's there's different things that we do to try to be creative. Um but as far as the training, that's dictated by POST now as far as what it needs to He's uh 15 he said to strike that because it's in The 12 hours I think we can strike because Yeah, he said thank you. The only thing I
060would say is if the MPTC says next year they need 60 hours of training, then that's something that we're going to have to communicate with you guys and say, "Hey, they're going to We're going to have to figure out how to do You have that in the beginning, too, right? Some have it listed above. Um the 12 hours is it's twice a year, I believe. Yeah, I think it is. So, at the beginning, I would just probably In line with MPTC requirements. Correct, because now it's not Nobody's going to wonder. It's not just really nearly training. It's for You have to. Correct. My my last question on this is the entire document is around um data collection. And um So, we have to collect data on um arrest, citations, court referrals. Um we don't go
061further or anything less. Um trying to think of something that would come to mind. Um just either just like conversations or um I think I know what you're getting at. Is it So, what I see at the end here is the documents that were the police actually filed on the um the part that we have uh The statistics. count of event types. What I think Mr. Diaz is Correct me if I'm wrong. You're talking about the interactions that the gentleman talked about where we mediated one. That's very difficult working in the school to figure out cuz you could do like 10 of those a day, and there's really not a mechanism because it flies in the face of the idea is that we're working something through. If it's SRO In our In our own uh
062management system, it would say, "Kevin and John got into a thing, and we mediated it whatever." So, it would sort of be on our side, not the police side. So, you would hit You would have probably mediations. We could ask for how many mediations that we have at each school. It should show and be documented in the conduct uh whatever. But I don't think the police would know. >> It wouldn't be appropriate to do field interview reports every time a police officer is interacting with a child in that moment. And I I think in that matter, like after after an altercation, like And I'm going by Durfee and RPA again. The officers of They are there. They're like in the VP's office. They they respond. And then So, they're there while this mediation is going
063on, but they're not reporting out on that cuz it's It doesn't become a police matter per se because there's no arrest, cuz there's no charges. They're not They're not forwarding it to juvenile court. Right. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, I think it That pretty much answers my point. It gets more of an internal of it's something that's not a police matter, what are we doing on this side? So, uh the principal at the assistant principal who who's usually head of uh discipline, we must report to DESE. So, all infractions are We have There's a send report, those types of reports. There's a a report that we do for discipline reporting to DESE. The assistant principals do that on a daily and a weekly basis, and that just And then at the end of the year,
064what we do is we go over that with the send reporter um for the data report of the district, and we go through each month with the assistant principals. So, whatever the police department and their um whatever they uh whatever their incident reports look like, they stay with them. Our incident reports are from our our district. They do not coincide. They're They're totally parallel. Okay. The only thing I would ask is that we make sure that um the incidents are all being reported, which we know we know Well, she just mentioned that you have to report them. We just want to make sure that we're all reporting in a high school in a uniform fashion so that we don't have like one school has a whole bunch, and then you're like, "I know there was
065some issues here." And then you put stuff in the journal instead. Like it has to be the same rules for everybody, otherwise the data means nothing. So, along the way to the principals, I'm sure you're going to reiterate that that they have to report what's going on. Um any other questions on the SROs motion? Can I get a motion to refer to full committee? Motion to refer to full committee. >> that we talked about. Moved by Mr. Diaz, seconded by Mr. Moniz. Roll call. Mr. Aguiar? >> Yes. Mr. Diaz? >> Yes. Mr. Moniz? Yes. Deputy Chief, thank you for coming to present. Have a good night. >> Uh we're going to just move around. So, we added security on here, so Mr. Enfra will be here for this discussion. Anybody have any questions generally on
066security? My intention was just to have him here as a resource for this. Any other questions on security yet? Okay. So, you can stay, you can leave, whatever you're going to do. If you want to go have supper, go for it. Uh maintenance uh capital plan, I want to hold that for a second because the next uh item 3.04 is the discretion and vote to refer the job description for refrigeration appliance repair service technician job description. So, I we asked for maintenance to be here for that discussion as well, not necessarily for the capital plan, and if we run out of time, we can postpone that. So, on the appliance repair service technician job description, it's been before us a few times. Mr. Chief, do you want to uh say anything? Do you want to
067I'm good, Mr. Any questions? Josh, um I mean, we we see if we see a need to have My my big concern today is and and the the industry the industry trend Josh just went through it with um with another piece of equipment, but the industry trends seems to be that nobody wants to come and give you a price on anything without getting paid. And and back in the day, we always used to say free estimates and all of this stuff as as tradespeople, but but it's starting to to make this complete turn around like, "I'm not going to make the trip down um for free. So, if you need to check this piece of equipment, it's going to cost you X amount of dollars to have them come down and and triage it." Now,
068mind you, you may only do that once if you agree with the triage and have one price in your head, but what what I think our problem is with some of these companies who do service for us is is just that. Like it's difficult to get a second person in without paying a second person. Sometimes even if one of our vendors that are accustomed to coming down here want to get paid for a visit to tell us what they need to do. And never is there anything on a particular vehicle to fix the issue. So, you end up with a two-visit on each item. The hope for this here is that that like up some of the other trades is that maybe we may not be able to have the the um the manpower to
069do the work but we will be able to at least triage it and if if we have the ability to do it in house we'll do it in house. I think this fills that kind of gap like there is some of those calls that we see we handed all of those slips to you. Some of those slips stuff we could have done in house. With the triage and I think that that this is where it might fill the gap. It also brings to the all the duties that you guys brought up. I think um plays a big part in this, right? Cuz I can use them when they're not busy doing that this particular job, I can get them to do other other jobs and there's plenty of work in the district. What what is
070this person's certification to be working on this equipment? Especially with the high volumes of gas and everything else. If you're talking about Durfee. So I mean I I think that we're going to have to look at the certifications deeper um but I do think that there's a need for this. Um so I mean these people that come in they don't have the gas fitter's license that you and I do. But they're working on the equipment cuz you like anything after the show off you can work on it but they're trained correct. They're going to cover the warranty after that item's done. Well sorry I'm using Durfee. I would say most of that stuff is out of warranty at this point, right? So I mean I can do a data collection and see what kind of
071equipment is there. But a lot of it's out of warranty at this point. But the problem is they even purchase the equipment. They're not going to just sell sell you a a gas valve let's just say cuz I [clears throat] know certain vendors and certain companies you have to go through their their department. And sometimes you can buy the licensing for it as well. You would know that even with control links, right? Controls, computers. You might not necessarily have the license but you can obtain it. And then start working on it. No different than like a flow guard, right? No different but it's like everything else. Even some of them they're not just handing them out. For sure. And that's why I subcontract with somebody else to say hey give me these parts. >> And
072I think to your point man I think that's where all other duties come into play because if we have I'm just using this uh 100 appliances and they can only work on 70 at Durfee but in the meantime I can get them to do something else. I think that's where um I think it's advantageous for us to one keep that in there and also utilize that mechanism in this job description. As long as we got the proper certifications and everything else. Mr. Chairman so if you guys could put that in writing of what is needed to apply for a job like that. Okay. I want to know what we're getting. What we're getting for our money. If I could um Hold on a second are you yielding? Yes, she is. Actually go ahead and Mr.
073>> Actually just if it was to Yeah, it's a Mr. Moniz so would we consider so let's just say we lay out three or four different licenses. Would we consider taking three instead of four? Would we consider taking two instead of I'm not saying taking none, right? But there there could be a level of depending on which one they hold. You know what I'm saying? So like if if they may hold one that's that we feel is important um and they may not have one that we may not have as much use for but would still like them to have. So I I don't know if we can lay it out that way. Wants and you know nice to have and and must have. Well I'm just saying like equipment you got to have your
074universals. So at that point your just regular 608 is not going to just cover it. No, no. That's what I mean how far are we going to have I understand that you said hey this is all we got that came up to to the listing. Just let's just say he's an apprentice, okay we at least know we got somebody that can go down check it out say Josh we need to call somebody else and this is above me or whatever. I just want to make sure it's safe. I just want to make sure we got a safe person that's looking at equipment and know when they are able to work on it when they're not able to work on it. I just want to keep the district safe. Like I said we have a lot
075of gas, we have a lot of freon, we have a lot of different things that can cause the district any harm. Right. I think we can to that point before I call Mr. Diaz I definitely think that we can change the qualifications and requirements to do something like you're saying before it goes back to the full the committee because the questions that we've had and I think they're legitimate questions from you guys and about let's get this thing to the right place to make sure that it's feasible. When we got the bills the bills didn't necessarily spell out exactly what we were looking for but it spelled out some things. So I think going from here let's morph it into before it gets to the full committee. Here's what that we need like like a
076license to do freon or I think a couple of them a lot of them were the guy came in had to the thing froze up you know the pipes froze up or whatever. A lot of those were very similar. I don't know exactly what you have to have in order to do that but if that's one of the major pieces as you analyze it I think it'll be more palatable to the committee to say we're going to ask for this and then the salary has to sort of be lined up with what we can't pay you know $25,000 and say we want you to have a natural gas license but you know so that has to line up with also with the way you pay other people in the unions and and all that so
077Mr. Diaz. Thank you and that's exactly the point I was just going to make before we refer this to the chair Mr. Moniz we can and going off of your experience and expertise that we can amend these qualifications so there's certain licenses that you believe that should be in the qualifications we can add those and just quickly to the point of the need cuz I know we go to outside vendors and I understand it was provided before it wasn't in the backup for this specific meeting I think this was something that was about a month ago it was in the backup for there. I think just for we get a lot of information every single day so just keeping it um thorough if there's a something that's tabled from a previous meeting is brought here
078in the backup should in my opinion just be within indulgence for that. And I think just also to the point if we're in if we're spending the same amount or it's not really we're not getting a big turnaround for having this position we're not seeing a big turnaround in the outside vendors just like we did in this budget in this position we don't believe we need we have the ability to cut that position so we can approach that at another date but I through the chair to Mr. Moniz what would you like to see in the qualification >> in on that first because I think it would be this has been a productive discussion but I think it would be even more productive if we allow Mr. Gall to work with Mr. Chico to come
079back with this so they have to analyze the bills before he answers because we don't necessarily know those pieces so they can communicate with Mr. Chico Mr. Moniz after like we did before the next meeting because once the bills I think that's going to be what's the telltale sign of what is the license that's most needed or three or four of them so I wouldn't want to put Mr. Moniz on the spot because he doesn't hadn't seen the backup on the bills so I'd like to ask Mr. Gall to work with them come back to the committee with that recommendation if that makes any more sense. >> Right. That way we have it as safe as possible. Yep and then the other piece is the 80 I I wrote here 80/20 that's looking at the
080facility nutrition versus regular. So in order to benefit which should we put on that last item for Mr. Pataro to be able to have them do other things we have to look at what does that look like. So if it's 80% nutrition and 20% district truth in advertising we should put it at 80/20 so that the position's funded. You know and it might be I might be off on the 80/20. And 80/10. And it could be a licensing too because if if it's a refrigeration license then that obviously changes a lot on both sides. You know what I'm saying? Like the refrigeration license is not strictly for for the kitchen area where we could use that person working on heat pumps in different situations for us so that split may be changed. I think you're
081pretty close with that number of the 80/20. Because a lot more a lot more appliances It says we're not 100% but now we're [clears throat] acknowledging it and then we can try to see how it's progressing. The person might come on and maybe want to work full time on the other side but I do think it would give you some flexibility to work to work it out. Come back to us with something it would make a lot of sense to the full committee. Um two would we be coming back to facilities or would we go straight to >> say we should bring this right to the full meeting May May 6th. 6th so um for productivity wise I think that makes the most sense. Mr. Diaz. Thank you. Just a question on the reporting so
082the position itself would report directly to you Mr. Pataro. Are we just based off the conversation from the last meeting that we had the last full meeting if there's going to be some of this coming out of the church there's no there wouldn't be any issue with that legally. Well we just talked about having it listed so that it would be 80/20. So if the position was going to be funded it was originally projected as 100% out of nutrition but based on utilizing the position we just threw out an 80/20 number. So 20% would come out of the budget the regular operating budget 80% would come out of nutrition. That allows for the flexibility for Mr. Pataro to do those type of things. I'll I'll make a motion to to to the full committee with
083no recommendation with the changes proposed. Motion made seconded by Mr. Moniz. Roll call, please. Mr. Aguiar? Yes. Mr. Diaz? Yes. Mr. Moniz? Yes. Um I think that we've been here for an hour and I like to keep the meetings to right around an hour. We're very productive. The maintenance and capital plan of as I said before were things that we can add to future ones. Uh The only question I had and I think it would get answered earlier was we received the paperwork from Mr. Patalano that he was doing a dirty job but we clarified that it's that's not a long-term No, it he's been he's been doing more than than I thought they would originally be. Um but we we definitely need to hire. The idea is to hire. I didn't know if it
084was as I saw that we're trying to like combine them. Right. But we're not trying to do that. So Right. So I think that was fine. The only thing right on that same point is um due to the fact that I believe that getting the ideal person is going to be very difficult because the the building is was set up and the person we had was part of the construction so that skill set can't be duplicated, right? So I I do believe that we may be able to modify the um the salary range and bring it down a touch uh in that conversation for another time but um I think that that might be the the answer on that piece. Yeah, I I I couldn't agree more. I mean I think we have positions if
085they don't work on whatever we go back to the superintendent, deputy superintendent. Let's work on so that it gets to the point where we can actually hire somebody but we have a lot of positions here that they go vacant for way too long and we have the money budget and the needs are there like I would say let's try to move on it even though that's not our purview. Uh we have a position I say let's fill it. Any other new business? Mr. Chairman. Mr. Aguiar. Just two things. One um just if I can ask for um an update because it's going to come with the capital plan. Bishop Connolly probably one of the most biggest um items there in that capital plan um for the future of the district. They asked um at a
086previous during a budget hearing that we get an update on Bishop Connolly where that's at. Um they get an update. So and just so for planning purposes not only for a strategic plan but for this capital plan we can get an update on that at some point. Um and just on new business quickly, I did bring it up in an email over the weekend. It's um different employee I I know we have a uniform system of requesting mileage reimbursements. We have a form. Do some [snorts] employees use like a different like a MileIQ or something different for their mileage allowance or We've never specified how to report it as a district. Um the old method was basically point A to point B and they kept track of it that way. Um we do have those
087who use an app um to report. So it does it does give you different results with an app as it does point to point. Does all like cuz I know um the person in question wasn't isn't the only individual in that department that uses um that gets the mileage reimbursement. Do they all use the MileIQ or just that >> Um I don't believe they all use them the the same system. In fact I I don't believe that either. I think that only one uses that particular app and others do it in manual method. Does the app track automatically? Is it like an automatic Does Does someone have Does he have to go in and I I don't know because I don't have an app that does my mileage um but I I'm I've seen the
088document and it looks like it is automatic. Okay. Um if we just get maybe a confirmation on that if it is an automatic that would explain a lot more of the um Yeah. the addresses Yes, but let me look into how we've done reimbursements in the past on travel. Um there should be a travel request form. W- W- these guys probably go daily for maintenance. They're probably going to the hardware store or something. This is this is particular school to school. Yeah, school to school. >> Um Or or school to school to school to to warehouse school to Yeah. I'll I'll leave it up to you. Yeah, let me let me look at how we've done that in the past and then uh going forward I I it needs to be uniform. Some people can't
089use an app and some people can't use uh MapQuest and some people can't use you know what we've already decided and I think between buildings I don't know if you know I would think that we would hope for professionalism that people are going back and forth to buildings that they're going from Derby to Connolly and back to you know going back and forth if we share Mhm. people going back and forth to those two buildings which I don't know. But It's a it's a complicated issue. Yeah, I'll look into >> a lot of uh I kind of know what you're talking about. And there's a lot of people in different departments. It's not only this department. There's a lot of uh travel reimbursements here and there. We should have a uniform. I thought we did
090have a uniform. I thought we did. If we don't we should Uh We should be. make it that. Yeah. Okay. I I agree. On the Bishop Connolly I know at the meeting the other day when Mr. Reposo indicated there was a meeting or some presentation coming up. And I asked that within 7 days we get an update. Sort of um putting the pressure on for that because we we're we're looking into purchasing uh Bishop Connolly to double the enrollment of the pre-K classrooms. Right. And I what I mentioned at the time is that if you're going to lease a property and then you have to make portable walls and things which is what Mr. Pacheco has had to do because we only leased it in the past. Now we thought we were going to purchase
091it. If that's no longer the case because there's a little thing going on between the city council who has to approve it and the mayor. If that's the case we need to know that sooner than later so we can figure out, right? Oh, absolutely. I mean the hope the hope the hope is that we have a real answer and a signed PNS um before we enter our next school year. That that to me is the ideal situation because um there's an awful lot of pressure to get the next round of classrooms ready. That's my mate. So we're opening up the classrooms as part of our plan in September. And a whole bunch of work has to happen over the next several months in order to get that done. >> [snorts] >> And when we toured
092the building which was early in January we were shown what does it look like for a portable classroom versus not because if we didn't we have to take it out. If we're going to own it then we're going to have to do major repairs and you know millions of dollars of roofs and boiler like everything. And we were down this road thinking we were going to purchase and I there's some issues going on right now with the city council and the mayor. And we need to get an answer. If it's not going to be then we have to know what's the lease then we got to figure out what do you have to do. But I don't think it's fair to you and your department to try to figure out this if they're going to
093keep kicking this can down the road till July and then we're going to be on you [snorts] saying when's the place ready for September? I don't think that's fair personally. So that's where I was I I know I threw 7 days out I just made that up but Mr. Diaz. Um just to close on that point and just to be frank I don't know if the city has the relations right now to get the deal through. Um I think we need um out in the state just yourself Mr. Chairman. I think we need a liaison. Like the administration that we have is all new so they don't know the council yet. But I think we need someone down there that's that can do the the deal that has the the relationships in my opinion. I
094agree with that. So on April 14th is a joint meeting between the city council, the mayor and the school committee. So stay tuned is what I would say. Yeah. Um I do I I I mean that's it's going to have to get to that point. >> hope um I'm I I'm very hopeful that between now um and maybe it's maybe it's the 13th maybe it's um this coming Friday. Um but there has to be some pre-meeting. Um we do have a lot of material that we didn't have in our hands um as of the last time we spoke. A lot more a lot more work has been done um with the help of the diocese but also um on our side. We did do a flyover. Also we've identified a lot of the the power
095positions in that particular property and the the points of interest um that is the the deal maker I I believe um and um the diocese is very eager for a whole bunch of reasons but but to move on this. So I we have a very willing I'm totally confident that between now and then yourself and Mr. Vallo and you know anybody else that needs to we just have to one way or another get it done. And if it's not going to be it's not going to be. We have to just make our plans. I just want to say thank you to the deputy superintendent for joining me. It's our first committee meeting and your first day. Anyway now we're we're an hour and that was good. So make a motion to adjourn by Mr. Diaz
096seconded by Mr. Moniz. Roll call. Mr. Aguiar? >> Yes. Mr. Diaz? >> Yes. Mr. Moniz? Yes. Thank you all. Have a great day. Thank you. >> Mhm.