001All right, folks. The time is just about six o'clock. We're going to get started. Going to start with the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. And just so everyone is aware, this meeting is being recorded by Northern Media. Anyone else that is recording, please let us know. Start with the public comment period. If anybody wishes to address the meeting, please do so. Please state your name and address for the record. Okay. Seeing none, we will move to vote and approve the minutes of the September 24th open session meeting. Does everyone had a chance to review these? >> Yep. >> Any questions, comments, edits? >> Okay. Entertain
002a motion to approve the minutes as presented. >> So move. Second. >> All those in favor? >> Next, we have the warrants. Miss Scallian. >> Um I have reviewed the following. School expense and payroll warrants. School expense warrant September 24th, 2025, 587,31153. School payroll warrants September 18th 2025 1,365,993 and555 ever muted and approved and wish to enter the public record. >> Thank you. Moving on to the student representative updates with Benson and Leah. >> Hello everyone. Um so in addition to our general update, we asked the building principles um to share a motive discipline um that reminded them of why they do um what they do and wanted to share their responses. >> So from the YEL um Mr. Gage shared this past week as the Yell School launched its new RIT blog called Lancer
003Learning Time LLT, he was reminded exactly why he loves being an educator. RIT or response to intervention is a multi-tered approach that helps identify and support students academic and behavioral needs. It begins with strong high-quality classroom instruction and regular screening for all students. Based on the results, students receive targeted small group instruction or enrichment to help them grow, ensuring every learner gets what they need to succeed. At the Yell LLT combines of IMTSS, RIT and PBIS to provide 40 minutes of each day focused datadriven support in ELA or math. Both groups are divided into teams of teachers and specialists allowing for smaller groups and more specialized instruction. Mr. Gagean said that during these sessions, students experience both the challenge and the reward of learning. Those moments of struggle followed by the aha breakthroughs that make
004teaching so meaningful meaningful. Watching students gain confidence and excitement when a concept finally clicks has been a powerful moment of reminder of why this work matters. He added for him and Mr. Balo that these LLT blocks have quickly become the best part of the day. Right alongside their good news calls, they've reaffirmed why they do what they do, helping students realize they can do hard things at celebrating them when they do. Then um from the JCS, Mr. Barrett um shared that he's reminded on a daily basis why he does what he does, gives interaction with students at JCS, makes it a priority to visit as many classrooms as possible each day, and spends time in the cafeteria during lunches, connecting with students in both small and meaningful ways. Um sometimes that reminder comes from something
005as simple as a smile or a fist bump in the hallway or even helping a student open their milk. Other times it's through sitting down with students to talk through a difficult situation, hearing everyone's perspective, and finding a positive solution together. He said those moments along with comments from staff or families about the ways the school is supporting their children reinforce his purpose as a principal to ensure that every student feels safe and successful at school. While some days are more challenging than others, Mr. Barrett shared that he's reminded of that purpose countless ways every single day. >> And from the LG, Mr. Mr. Higgins shared that one of the most most rewarding parts of his role at LGN has been visiting classrooms to read to students. He makes an effort to do this several
006times throughout the year or anytime a teacher invites him because, as he puts it, back in the day as a classroom teacher, one of his favorite things was introducing great children's literature to his students. Now, as a principal, he values the opportunity to impact the literacy of the entire school. In addition to reading out loud in classroom, he shares book recommendations during daily video announcements with the help of the PC PTC, excuse me, ensures that every student receives both a birthday book and a break book for each school vacation. Just this week, a student's grandmother mentioned how much her grandson loves that Mr. Higgins has visited his class to read The Smart Cookie by Jory Jordan and Pete Coswell. Mr. Higgins said that these moments help him promote literacy while connecting with students on a
007personal level. A true win-win. Experiences like this remind him exactly why he chose to become an educator and why he continues to learn to love what he does each day. That's all from us. >> Thank you. >> Any questions? >> I like the added question. >> Very creative. >> All right. Next, we have the opening of school remarks with Mr. for Hayward. >> Thank you. We will always be there. So, um I enjoy teaching the kids and I can barely stand six years 154 school days left comes to an end. Um but um thank you for having us tonight. We're interested in telling you about the start of the school year. Uh we've had a great start to the school year in general. um have some pictures to show you just going through the school
008year and I'll make some comments. Uh fortunately, we had some two great days at the beginning of the week in October. We were able to get outside on the picnic tables that our parent board bought us a couple years back uh through their fundraising efforts with the community that supports us. Uh so we're glad to get out with that. Kids really enjoyed it. Um, we welcomed uh 544 students on September 2nd. Um, and as I said, we had a good start to the school year. Kind of got started even before, which was great. We've had our second annual police academy here. It was really good to have kids back around the building even before we get open, getting used to their voices and all the scurrying around that was going on in the building. Um
009it was led by uh our SRO officer Robisho and a Northern High School SRO Sergeant Dennit. Uh it gave a the students a unique opportunity to learn and grow and lead. Um they learned about uh all the cadets learned about teamwork skills, tackled technical challenges, as you can see some of them over at the fire department, deepen their appreciation for respect, which is one of our core values, integrity and leadership. Uh it was a fun and rewarding week. Uh many kids described it as life-changing and they're already looking ahead to year three and we'll share details in spring of 2026 and it was full. It was packed a lot more cadets the second time around. >> Vinnie, is it the same ones that did it last year or is it like crop every >> uh
010new cropper kids? They did welcome back, I think, three carryovers to kind of be like um cadet instructors, like student instructors. And I think they selected a few more that will continue next year to kind of bridge the gap, but it was all new kids. And uh you can see the state police came out and they brought the helicopter out again, which is always the highlight. Okay. Uh new staff. We were able to hire some new staff, which was great as opposed to losing them. Uh, first we brought back we brought back Chris Cummings. Chris was here when I first started. Exceptional teacher. >> I think he's here right now. He's right there. Uh, he came back. He's, uh, again, an excellent teacher. Um, he's teaching science up on six purple. Welcomed him back. Uh,
011Jack Boils working in our best program. K joined us from North Attabo where he held a similar role. Kathy Kelly was a par profofessional with us last year. Um believe she lives in the town also does a lot of coaching and so on and now she's moved into the uh LBC teacher role on six purple. Uh Zach is a par professional in a grip program. He's also a certified teacher uh in social studies. So it was great to bring his skill set in and degree and uh knowledge there. So good. Uh Haley Spiwakowski think got that right. She's a music and chorus. So, we're very pleased to have our music uh chorus and band program back. We've always had the chorus elective. Uh looking really looking forward to the winter and spring concert which are
012kind of like staples in our school year prior. So, Haley's got the chorus up and we have really good participation in that. And Julia Larson who joined us last year when we kind of got that somewhat approval to bring that back. She continued on in the role covering for maternity leave as a fullear long-term sub and she's picked up right where she left off doing some really creative and engaging products with the uh projects with the kids. Uh PBIS at our school um is a great way to focus on the start of the school year. Start with some positive things recognize students for um the 80% of kids that really make the class humble because they follow things. don't need a ton of uh repeating directions and so on to kind of meet our expectations
013daily. Um we had just some kids getting shirts been sending down uh students names and they've been getting the Lance Elite T-shirts. Again, our parent board gets those for us. Here are some more kids and kids. And here's some stuff from our classrooms again. very pleased to have uh instruments back and band and chorus um and those functioning hands-on projects are always exceptional. This is Mrs. Bushad up here. I think I saw her come in tonight. >> And then our clubs and activities, that's uh probably the thing I think our sixth graders uh most look forward to as they transition to the middle school. All the clubs and activities um they're up and running right now. Some of the clubs start later in the school year like drama and woodworking. Few of the other clubs.
014Um and Rubik's cube club. Um going to be taken over by Mr. Bid the show. I think I saw Benny in here. Benny's there. He taught me how to do the Rubik's cube years ago in the club. The one who showed me. It took me since 1980 something a few time. He got me. So I saw him. >> And of course our sports programs here really make us unique. We're fortunate to be in the league. I have some updates from the different teams. Uh the girls soccer team is off to a hot start, 51 and one. They've outscored opponents 37 to4. Uh they have 12 eighth graders, six seventh graders, and one sixth grader and 14 returners. The group combines skill, effort, and a love of the game. Six matches matches remain as they push
015for a strong finish in the league. Uh they're coached by KJ Williams who works at our elementary school. Boys soccer coached by Tim Lanti. I saw Tim here too. The boys team sits at 4-1 and three showing grit and resilience with three come from behind wins and several late game ties. The most dramatic victory came against Rainom scoring three goals in the final 10 minutes for a 3-2 win. And recently they shut out some two to zero. And they're looking forward to a rematch with Freetown Lakeville coming up. Uh, volleyball coached by Norton Middle School teacher Meg Hardnett. Uh, led by their eighth grade captains Avery Panic, Daniela Dolac, and Lacy Fuller. The team is five and two. They thrive on teamwork and determination. They've had big crowds that have energized the players all season.
016Next home match is a Dig Pink game on Thursday, Octo October 16th, raising funds for the Ellie Fund and breast cancer awareness. And finally, cross country coached by Amy uh Jay, Dr. J up for the high school n and Marissa Misaro. This year's team has 37 runners um who are excelling both on and off the course with nutrition, sportsmanship, and teamwork. Both teams are 2 and 0 when league meets and several of the athletes are going to qualify for the 16th annual Massachusetts Middle School Invitational on November 1st out in Devon. Um, and then our unified botchi team. Uh, we were supposed to have our first game today. It got cancelled the weather. So, these pictures from last year's team, but uh, we're looking forward to getting that going. I think we have five matches
017scheduled. So, we've kind of increased the number of matches that we're going to have. We look forward to that team getting underway. Here's some more pictures. And then in our gym, um we got uh Jay Massie, actually North resident, um put this new logo up in in the gym. There's a lot of blank space up on that wall >> and again donated by the parent board and uh the the logo itself is donated by the parent board and uh Mr. Massie donated his time and expertise to hang that up there. So it looks really good if you get into the gym. Uh okay, now we're on to Thanksgiving. That's the start of school report. Um, if there's any questions, go ahead. >> Well, often you do that to answer the Sure. giveaways. >> Uh, recently
018I've been doing it um a couple days a week. I've been calling this week. I've been doing it every day. I've been calling kids down on team. The PBIS has also run um on team too. So they do a lot of giveaways and ticketing on the team. Often times one of the prizes will be they get a w like a ticket to come get a shirt, but initially just to get it going and get some shirts out. Uh they've been sending me names directly, but they do it I think once a week on teams they'll do uh pull tickets and so on. Um, so know that for last year you had to readjust your setup for sixth grade because of smaller class size and the downsized staff and stuff. Um, did that model still stay
019the same for sixth grade with the incoming sixth graders? Did you adjust or >> changes? Yes. >> Yes. The the thing is yes, but not for the sixth graders. So that followed kind of that I'll call it a bubble class, but it's kind of inverse. It's that small group that are currently seventh graders. So, we've actually extended the creative design course into the seventh grade. >> Okay. >> So, seventh grade specials run on a 30-day cycle >> and our sixth and eighth run on a 36 day cycle. So, it's still in balance kind of I guess um >> taking advantage of uh having that smaller group, but we had some budget constraints. >> Yep. >> You know, that's going to cycle out and then we're gonna have to figure out plan B, but >> kind
020of taking advantage of that. So that continues with the sixth graders as they roll to seventh grade. >> Okay. And you still doing the team sharing like >> uh no that we didn't because we were able to um bring back a bit. Great. >> You know that was some of the stuff we've been able to bring back. So we kind of lucked out with that small size to help uh soften some of the budgets that have taken place and then this year we're fortunate along with the chorus and band programs to bring some of it back. >> Thank you. Yes, the outstanding challenge we have is that we don't have any book lending going on in the library. >> Okay, >> but you know that's a 16th century problem. I guess we're still battle with
021no book lending in public school. >> So that's our next challenge. >> Thank you. >> Anything else? >> Thanks guys. Thank you. >> Thank you. Next we have our student spotlight AP students with distinction Dr. >> Okay, I'm going to go up to the >> evening everyone. Uh thank you all for coming tonight. I know we're all here to honor our students. Uh the College Board's advanced placement program gives high school students a chance to take college level courses in subjects such as math, science, history, language, and the arts. These courses match the rigor of introductory college classes and allow students to earn college credit or advanced placement based on their performance on the AP exams. Beyond the possibility of earning college credit, AP offers several key advantages. They help students build the skills needed
022for college level work. They enhance college applications by demonstrating success in challenging coursework. And they may even lower college costs by reducing the number of required courses once students are enrolled. Um, AP exams, which are usually offered in May, are graded on a scale of 1 to five with scores of three or higher, often considered passing for college credit. Norton High School enjoys a robust participation in the AP program with 182 students enrolled last year in courses across multiple subjects. Tonight, we are proud to recognize 10 current Norton High School students who received the highest distinction by earning a score of five on one or more of their AP exams. Participation in the AP program continues to grow at Nord High School. During the 20 24-25 school year, we had 168 students take a 100
023a total of 362 exams. That number has increased for this current school year with 182 students projected to take 400 exams across a broad range of subjects reflecting both the expanding opportunities available to students and their continued commitment to academic excellence. So, what I'm going to do tonight is I'm going to call each student up one by one. Um, I'll present them with their certificate and then hopefully um Benson will get us a picture and we'll invite the family to come up and take a picture with them as well. Um, but it might take us a few minutes to get through all 10 of you. So, um, the first student I want to recognize is Colin Artisani. And I believe Colin is not able to be with us tonight because he is actually um, taking
024a college course right now. So, good for him. Annabelle Griffin. >> Why not, Mom? Annabelle received a five in English language and composition and US history. Okay. Uh my next award goes to Allison Huang who received a five in English language and composition. Um, unfortunately Allison has a game tonight and is not able to join us. >> He's in Melis Cup with a volleyball team. >> Hey, there you go. >> All right, Carl May. Carl here. that wants to come up. Come on up. All right, Mom. Thank >> uh Carl, congratulations on your five in US government and politics. That's amazing. Um Cat Moore here tonight. Uh Cat um earned a five in English language and composition, European history, and US history. So congratulations to her. Valeria Santiago. Okay, Valerie received a five in Spanish
025language and culture. Congratulations. >> All right, Melanie Sheety, come on up. Mom and dad want to come up and take pics, I >> guess. Thank you. >> Melanie received fives in English language composition in US history. Congratulations. All right. Brody Miguel Skate here. Okay. Uh Brody received a five in US history. Tyler Winkus somewhere else. >> Uh Tyler received a three, sorry, a five in chemistry, English language composition, and US history. And finally, I have Ben Yazakovich. Come on up, Ben. to see him. >> I think we have dad here too, right? Dad, >> we'll see you in a couple weeks. >> Thank you. ambassador. >> Uh Ben received four uh scores of five in chemistry, English language, and composition, statistics, and US history. Uh congratulations to all of these students. I think um number
026one it's so important that um we celebrate all of their hard work and um this you know being a AP student with distinction um is is really such a great um testament to your work and your time and your dedication to academics. I know so many of you are involved in other things in school as well. So I applaud you um for being both active in your school community and really committed to the academics of of school as well. So congratulations to all of you. Thank you. >> Congratulations everyone. It's it's remarkable the work that goes into some of these students and student athletes and you know holding down jobs and and doing remarkable things. So um you know we always like to share the spotlight with our distinct students. So congratulations to all of
027you. Um, so we're going to move on to our next item update, which is the transportation update with Mrs. Hatfield. Um, for those of you just visiting can feel free to um make yourselves leaving. >> I was trying to say nicely, but you're more than welcome to >> You're welcome to stay welcome. >> Thank you all so much for coming. >> Thank you. Congratulations. So, transportation update. So, have had a great start to the school year. Um, as we noted noted in a couple meetings ago, we had a few bumps in the beginning with um the water movement and meeting that was happening on Worester Street um Parks, but that was just a day. And then we also had caving um on North Washington Street, but that was just a little above delays. After that,
028um it was sailing. We had a great start. Um we have a little bit less of students that are registered this year. Last year we were short 14th. Um but we have brought in the same or a little bit more money. Um we have brought in to date $140,000. Last year it was around 138,000 at this time. Um I that looks to be because of our late fees. We've collected more in late period than we have in the last two years which is about 47th I think. Um we've also had a very streamlined registration process um which is thanks to Alice Samborn and Barrett Williams. They've done a great job registering students and making it um much more speed than any other year. Um all of our buses um are running oh sorry that's um
029only two buses so far are at capacity um which are on the hey middle run that is bus four and bus seven. We probably won't um accept any more registrations um for those two buses um which comes to just about 2C have agency on those buses but the rest are friends with >> what is our what is our timeline registration like when we start notifying their >> um it's usually give or take a week every single year but it's usually around May 31st to June 1st. So, we're trying to catch them before a school. >> Yes. >> Question on that. >> What area of town is post? >> Um, which school? So, they don't always get the same. I really don't. Yeah, because for example box and the LG are there up near Bay Road
030for for H middle >> and then um I think she is not still over there either. So I'm not really sure. >> Any other questions? >> So when these buses they're still doing three loops, correct? >> Do three tiers. Um kind of 10 buses. >> How many buses do three >> and then does do any do two? >> Um the other five. Yep. >> 10 do three and then five do two. >> Correct. >> And then the other the five that do the two tiers. Which tier are you skipping? >> Um JCS. >> Cool. Thank you. >> Anything else? move on to the next is the enrollment update with Dr. >> Thank you. Um so as of October 1st um for just for to reiterate um October 1st is the date that um we send
031all of our data into the department of elementary and secondary education and that number our enrollment number on October 1st is the date that they use for all of our funding for the following fiscal year. So um it's really important that we get that date that data correct um at that time because everything moving forward will be based on those numbers. So I would like to give you an update at this time in the year uh focus on those October numbers. So um as of October 1st we had a total enrollment of 2362 students here in Norton. Um of that number 286 are district students that are enrolled in our five schools. 204 students at our school choice. 39 students that are enrolled in the Breeds Deaf and Heart of Hearing program, 32 students that
032are in specialized um out of district placements, and one student that is with us as part of a tuition agreement or attending one of our specialized programs here in district um because their district didn't have something and we were able to offer a spot. Um this is down um about 72 students from when we left in June. Our number in June was 2435. Um so the um en district enrollment itself we are down by 37 students across prek to um grade 12 plus and we are down 72 students when it comes to um school choice. I'm sorry not 72 35 I wrong numbers here 35 students in school choice. uh the main area where we saw that decline was from grade 8 to grade nine. So we know that oftentimes this is the biggest place
033where we where we lose students because they have other opportunities for high school. Um they could go to Southeastern, they could go to Fien, they could go to Zarian. Um there are other options. Um and same with their with the choice students as well. They have other they have other options available to them. So, um, from grade 8 into grade 9, we lost 25 students from our our district cohort and 11 school choices. Um, also I just wanted to mention that um, school choice members here. Um, we have, um, I believe three new kindergarten uh, choice students and those are either siblings or staff um, that are are joining us. And then we have um an increase in school choice in grades six and eight and those were either siblings or or staff placements as
034well. Um also to give you an update on um the additional seats we opened last spring because I know that was something that we we spent a lot of time having a conversation about. Um we opened two seats in grade seven. Um we received one application and the seat was declined. So, we do not have any additional students in grade seven for school choice. Um, and then grades nine and 10, we had five spots between um those two grades. We received seven applications, three students enrolled, three declined seats um and one was weight listed in the in the lottery um and didn't return the phone call when the seat became available. So it was three additional students um in grades nine and 10 for choice and that's it and I um the committee gets an
035update at the beginning of the month um from me as part of our you know usual communication. So happy to answer any questions about >> our chapter 7 funding you got $104 per student this year >> correct? Does that do you have any? >> Oh gosh. No. Um, we won't know anything in regards to chapter 70. I would say the first time they'll really start talking about it is probably late February, early March. um and but then until budgets typically not passed until July or um there's a lot of advocacy both from the mass association of school committees as well as the mass association of school superintendents to um continue with this number at $104 per student at the very whether that will continue really depends on what the governance budget looks like. Um, one
036of the things that we're starting to hear is that a lot of our special education schools are looking for significant increases for the upcoming school year. So, that's something that um, Casey and I were already on um, emails with MASS earlier this week and now clear that issue as well. >> Yes. Um, in some cases 20 to 30% increases. >> Didn't they say? >> Yes. So, we Yes. So they recently got a 14% increase and then the following year they got a 6%. Yeah. >> Where it had always traditionally been two to three. Um so that was my email saying wait a minute we just did this. So um >> so who controls that and they just like like I guess so if if I I run collaborative >> you know whether it's you know
037Joyce spins collaborative do I just go to the state and say I want to increase my fee 30% and they say yes or no. So, there's a couple different ways that they can do this. Uh, one is there's a governing board at the state level. That was that was the board that um approved that 14 and then the six a few years ago. The other way for schools to go about that about this is to um submit an application to the department of education for what they call reconstruction and that is um kind of revising and brief framing the way that the school is run and operated. So they do almost the whole program review within that. Um and through that process if approved by the department they >> where does that where does that
038money come from state? >> So um any tuition increases come directly from the district. So if we have one student somewhere in like they I'm just going to give you some numbers going up. We're paying $83,000 this year and they're increasing next year's tuition to 107. The total increase is on hops. Um and then we have circuit breaker. So the first $55,000 we're responsible for the whole thing and then anything over and above that we get a percentage re. That percentage reimbursement is fluctuates year after year over year. >> There was talk about increasing that percentage for circuit breaker plus spray. Right. >> Yeah. So that what they want to do is they want to get it to 85. >> Yeah. >> Um it's currently at 75 but we don't always we're not always guaranteed
039to get the correct >> 75 itself. So >> Right. And then we >> never got we got 75 this year. >> Yeah. So yeah, we were looking increase to 85. Mhm. >> With But wasn't there going to be like a threshold of you know like no less than this amount like again like you said 75 but we don't always get 75 so like saying that you can't really go below like we'd like to get 85 but we can't go below like wasn't there >> I think I've never seen it below 60. >> So but right we looking to like so there was talk about trying to increase all of that correct even that 60 threshold. So I think what they were trying to do is say we would like it to be 85. Want to
040say it can't go below 75 where unfortunately there are years right now where we do go below 75 >> um with both the tuition reimbursement and with the transportation. >> Okay. Yeah. So um yeah just wondering where everything was with that because that was at the state level. Correct. >> Yes. >> Other questions? Is that it? >> Yes. Thank you. I had a quick question. I don't know if that's if it's part of this or not, but um is there any update on reads because there's still we're still um so I reached out um last week to kind of check in and see how things are going um because we had talked about this holiday weekend that's coming up um to be kind of the goal after the birth of the goal. Um, and unfortunately,
041one of the biggest challenges that they're having, um, has to do with the building being on 123, which we all know is a state road. Um, so some of the work that needs to be done in order to get things online, requires them digging into 123. And so, unfortunately, it's taking a little bit longer than I think they had hoped to get the approval from the state so that way the local um, contractors can postpone. Um, so I think last we had heard it was maybe closer to Thanksgiving. >> I just drove by. I mean, there's definitely see that they're making progress, which is which is great. And um, >> you know, I thank you to our principles for always and our staff for always being so incredibly welcoming. Um, and we're making it work
042and so info with the staff and I'm sure they just want to be in their own space and establish like this can't it's hard when you're in limbo. Yeah. So, >> do you think they will wait until like the new year come back >> that that hasn't been addressed at this point? I don't want to make assumptions for you. So I I think think they're all ready to get into their space, but it's unfortunate that >> Great question. >> Other questions? >> Um I was just curious on the out of district enrollment, >> were these the additional five from June to October? Were they students that were already in district and you know programming they had to >> I was gonna ask response to that district. >> Okay. um one at a private um collaborative
043um and then we had three students that we were had pending for evaluation that we're trying to figure out into as this question last year from high school from 8th grade to 9th grade generally speaking we usually lose right around 30 like a fair >> yeah usually it's 25 to I mean, of course, every class is a little bit different. Like, you have some kids some years where you see a lot of students go. You have other years where you see almost no one go. Last year was actually a very low year for us when it came to um the loss of students from the middle school to the high school. This year is definitely higher. >> Yep. >> All right. Next we have second reading and then on I believe >> thank you. Um
044so last at our last meeting um Dr. Aman and Mr. Flanigan presented you um I think Mr. Cersei was there too. Give him credit. Um presented you all with the um new policy around competency determination. Um, as we know, last November, um, the state voted to remove the graduation requirement, uh, for passing of the MCAST assessment. And so, because of that, each district is now tasked with determining their own competency determination requirements. Um, so what we have for you, we we went through the, um, all of this last week. Um and we talked about the aligned courses which are English 9 and 10, algebra 1, geometry, um introductory physics, bio or chem, and then US history one. Um successful completion of those courses, uh they have to earn the full credits and with a minimum
045passing grade. Uh we also talked about the consideration for um our English language learners and our students with disabilities as well as the appeal process and what that would look like if there was concern um about a student not necessarily um meeting that requirement which um includes transcript review, portfolio assessment um etc. looking at relevant coursework. Um so that is the first um policy there and then the second policy is the graduation requirements and what we did is um we took out any language around the competency requirement itself. So now that we have our own policy that speaks specifically to competency requirement um this is simply for graduation. Um a student must learn at least it must earn at least 95 credits um and participate in all state required assessments. Um and then we talked
046about specific course requirements are printed in the Norton High School handbook. So that way if we make changes in what those courses themselves are, we don't have to come back and do a two policy read. We can simply update that aspect of the handbook with a vote from school. Um so I know Mr. Flanigan is here tonight with um Mr. Serski and Dr. Aman. So we're happy to answer any questions that may still be up there. >> Otherwise, we would need a vote to approve. >> All right. So let's start with IKE. We're going to handle these separately. Does anybody have any discussion or talk that determination? Hearing none to IKF as presented. >> So second >> all in favor. >> Thank you. >> Right. Next is IKF graduation requirements. Is there any discussion on
047this policy? >> Motion to second. >> So second down my gain for April and then everything right. All right. Our next item is discussion and vote on Norton Middle School CTE pathway exploration. Dr. Street. >> Thank you everybody. Um there are there is the actual policy that's in your packet. I did um Mr. Hayward put together just a few slides so it might be easier to follow but I thought I would just take a minute and give everybody some background. So, in August of uh this past year, with not much if any notice, um there was a a webinar that we attended and we were told that um we had to create a a middle school CTE pathway exploration policy. And so there's been, you know, a fair number of webinars, a fair number of
048back and forth at building level, district level to try and kind of reconcile some of the vagaries of this. But the intent of the policy is really to just provide timely clear information about CTE programs for for grade 8 students. And what you're going to hear tonight a little bit about 98% of the things we probably already do and have been doing for an extended period of time. So this is just a way for us to formally capture it in a policy. Um to give a little bit of background because we do are not an exclusive CTI CTE high school, we do not have to place this in the in the school committee um compendium of policies. this policy can live in the Norton Middle School or any Norton public school program of studies because
049we're neither a CTE exclusive district and we do not have an exclusive CTE school. So because there was no previous requirement, we can capture this here this evening. Um, we also are required if any of our students can attend a CTE school, we just have to make sure that we have language updating what we do, how we do it, and then sign and add a station on a yearly basis with with DESIE. And so things that we've already done that capture what is required in the policy, we have CTE and pathway policy. So there's regular discussion, regular exposure to both CTE at the high school and also our innovation pathways. We've historically coordinated visits between the middle school and the high school for these students. And then we do have the option for students that
050would find an offering at either South Southeastern Regional or Bristol Aggie. just capturing that we have a process for that really the we have already within our uh program of studies this pathway is already embedded and codified and that's through guidance program programming and regular communication and as we do already we have to make sure that this information is shared and readily available through multiple channels which is both here and dubtales with what we've been doing um historically here. And then the the the the stickiest wicket in this policy um was around awareness for CTE providers more specifically around the transportation issue because as initially presented it created perhaps the impression that the sending school would be required to pay for transportation for the visiting students and to coordinate that. The inverse is actually true.
051So if uh Southeastern or Bristol Aggie wanted to do some collaboration with us, it would really be under their impetus to to reach out to us to coordinate that time during the school day and they would be responsible for those costs. Um Desi wanted us to also be clear that as far as the attendance policy, um that any student absence related to a visit was excused. >> So is this for like like an open house or something like that? Like what or is this like they're taking a class as a middle schooler at like what is that actually or as like so it's an excuse app does that mean they're just traveling to like see it for the day? >> Yes. >> Oh yes. So really it it it's it was presented as a bit
052of a lion at first, but between Vinnie, TJ, myself, Ronnie, and um and Vinnie Cersei, we spent a fair amount of time in a number of webinars and asked some very specific questions around this so that we'd be able to bring clarity to everybody this evening. So I think the last piece is just about maintenance of records. So these are the things we already do and that we're required to do. So on an annual basis we have CTE presentations to our eighth grade students. We have to make sure that we capture students that participate in those. Um there will be in uh the near future like a formal posting on the website about these options to families around C um CTE and then on an annual basis we'll have to sign an add a station
053and submit to DESIE that we're following the policy that we're reviewing with everyone this evening name. Yeah. And then really I think this is part and parcel to kind of a more expansive view of public education from the department. Whereas college is a wonderful and desirous track for a large number of students. It's has never been for all students. So there's intentionality around uh the department making sure that other offerings are available to all students. >> Any questions? >> Yeah. So what is what is the desi? This is a mandate from desi correct. >> What is the language that they're telling us to do? Is there like a paragraph that they're saying this is exactly what you have to do? >> It was more than a paragraph. There was several like deciphering of almost contradictory
054type stuff whether it's the transportation and things like that. They just want to make sure that our students are aware of the options that they have, have an opportunity to learn about them, that their parents are aware of it, and then the timeline on which it happens, that it happens in early October, so it's not sprung on them or very, you know, very deep in our website or other things. Um, that we're excusing attendance for these types of visits. And we have I think Thursday uh the 16th the high school's coming down >> to present on the SCT program. Um I think Bristol Egg he's coming in on the 20th and these are things that we typically done. Um and so it's just about that process. So it's making sure that the the building the
055systems we have in place are following these things probably for people like me because I want everyone to go to Northern High School. That's just how I am. >> I I work here. I want everyone to continue to Norton High School, but they want to make sure that all middle schools are offering all the students, no matter what town they live in, access to that. So, it's not like you have me a home in high school versus someone else. So, that that >> but we do 98%. What is the 2% we don't do? >> Probably the program of studies which we're going to update. We actually just kind of coincidental is this was sprung on us. We need to update our program of studies here at the middle school one to reflect the budgetary cuts
056and programmatic changes that occurred. Also, you know, positive things like the new curriculum programs that we started with mid school math and amplify. Uh so we to update that document anyways. Um so we plan to do that. So that would be part of the 2% putting it in there. Um and then also just putting it on our website. Other than that, maybe some of the timeline things that we were soft on as far as like things happening more towards Thanksgiving around there. So, that would probably be the 2%, but as far as like, you know, it it wasn't that much to do. It's more just kind of shifting some stuff and notifying. >> So, now that it we were above the curve, if you will, now that it's a state mandate, does it give us
057any funding to this? They make the out of school transport. >> I wish the answer I wish the answer was yes, but I think so. So So this goes back to I say this I've said it for three years now. Why do we continue to do things state mandates that doesn't come with we've got to find a way to find how to take unfed unfunded mandates down. It's just another thing that we have to do. Now again I get it for us because we were doing 98% of it. We're above the curve. That's great. But there's going to be something that comes down the road that we've never done. And then we're going to have to 100% do it. Now it's going to take more staff, more time. Someone else is going to get nailed
058with a a teacher, a professional, a a guidance counselor. Someone's going to add more to their plate and there's going to be zero more money coming into us. So again, on a situation like this, it's small, it's minute, it's whatever. But at the end of the day, the state's telling us yet again, you got to do this. And they give us no backing and no funding for it. And so I mean for for us we do have CTE programs at the high school um and we have the innovative pathways. So um we receive grant funding for those programs there. We want to make sure that if it's something that I need to sign off yearly that we're doing something small to make sure that we're still getting those grants. That's easy. We can make that
059happen. Um, but as Brian mentioned when he first started speaking, leave out this information at the very end of August when I'm sorry, but you're not reading your emails that really at the very end of August because you've got kids coming back. You're still trying to hire staff. It's a constant like revolving wheel of things that you're focused on to >> educate students and this is due by November 1st, two weeks, >> right? And so it's just unbelievable. So, um, MASS, um, and I know, um, some of the, um, building administrator organizations as well are really pushing back on the department and saying like you have to give people time like these timelines are incredibly tight. Um, we just approved the other one with the competency determination. Um, that is again something else that took
060a lot of time from our team to put something together and had a very quick turnaround. Um, and then the Department of Education is going to put together their own recommendation for graduation requirements and hand that to us in February. So, I mean, we basically just did the leg work for them. So, it's um definitely a a at a frustrational point, I think, for a lot of educators and clearly for, you know, school committee members and and communities. Um, but >> yeah, it's not something I mean, obviously it's great. It's awesome that we've already been doing it. It's just again the bigger picture and the point continue to just the state tells us what to do when we do it and they send us no money to do it. Thanks. >> Um well I mean
061I I think you know this is one of those things where you would hope you know a public school system is not preventing another high school to come in because I'm sure that's happened and now they can say yeah you're not going to let that happen anymore. I mean, having put three kids through, you know, the Norton school system, all three were accepted to a competing school and they chose to stay here. Um, so I guess, you know, my other question is we invite these schools in, not necessarily with open arms, but we invite them in. Are students like do all eighth graders go down or do they say, "Yeah, I want to go check." on those present on presentations, it's the entire eighth grade goes down and and views the presentation. Um it's not
062just sign up for it. So we we expose all of the eighth grade to it as a class. If they then want to follow up, do an application, start that process, go for a visit, they do that on their own. >> And again, this stuff is kind of saying we won't step in away with attendance stuff. Now, most kids don't really have attendance issues where it would matter. They're allowed so many days, but it would be like a kid has a game that day. I I excuse it. They can go do their visit and play in their sports activity or if we had a school dance that night. So, it's a full excusal uh if they go to those things. It's almost like a day in school for them wherever they go. >> So, my
063my other question and I know there was chatter about something changing with acceptance into you know, agricultural schools and things like that. And I know I have a friend of mine who they didn't go to their counties school. So, I guess do we have to extend this courtesy to say like Norfor agricultural school because they may have a different program set than Bristol? Like, do we have to invite them in or is this not part of that as well? >> Um, I don't know. um the ones that we're we're part of that we're regionally part of like we communicate with and um and that's been longstanding. I mean we just have communication with them. Our counselors typically get invited uh in the fall to go over there. So I'll send our eighth grade counselor somewhere
064in the policy. It says RA's grade counselor because we roll them will be the point person um on that and he'll go out there and kind of get a preview of any updates or changes at the school itself or the programs or the process. There's been big changes to the process that's moving to like a lottery style system >> and there's kind of weights and balances on these. You can get extra I guess tickets in the lottery for certain things. So there's a big change to that which we're still trying to figure out. And when anything operationalizes, that's when you really understand it. So it hasn't happened yet. So it's hard to know, but it is moving more to a lottery. Before it was really based on um you know a lot of transcripts, interviews
065that they would send representatives out and they would conduct interviews. There'd be one or two days where kids would just had passes and they being interviewed by someone from their district. And then we do a lot of recommendation letters. We believe some of that is gonna probably toned down. >> And do we share do we share the dates that they're coming out with our parents? Because I haven't seen so been a while since I've been through this, but I think with one of my three kids, I had no idea they were going through process. I didn't know they were coming on site or that they had applied or anything like that. Yeah, >> I guess with part of this are we also now saying we need to include the families if you have nothing else
066just like a hey southeast is going to be here your kids going things >> I know um you know I typically probably put in the newsletter but maybe not a standalone I know as far as going high school which is a CTE program so for us as a middle school I'm with Southeast and Bristol and Northern High School uh we plan to send out as a standalone the slides presentation um and so on so families can actually see that. I don't know what see what the presentations will be from them. But I'll probably send out the actual slides and because of this I'll probably do it as a standalone just to verify that it was sent and again not buried. But again probably for guys like me I want everyone to go to Northern High
067School to stay in. >> Okay. >> Anything else? I just noticed in the policy was this on like um purposeful you had two dates. So one is November 15th and one is October 15th. Was that >> it is because the communication via like the website or you know a prominent space um the deadline is October 15th. >> Oh I think another one with that we weren't sure about the wording of it. It says that we have to >> um offer something to the sending schools by October 15th. >> We're not sure if that means we have to schedule the date or actually have the presentation. So is it an offer by the 15th to you guys come in on this date or is it you have to have presented by October 15th? That's kind of
068an early window to get to. But that was some of the stuff that we weren't sure about >> that it's like well I can offer you something by the 15th. Do you have to present by the 15th >> because that's kind of tight school year >> considering and considering we were made aware of this probably the August 21st. >> So sorry now I have a question based on this last question. So is the expectation that we are um doing this this this fall because it's October 8th. >> Yeah. >> So I'm just wondering >> well I mean we um >> we we kind of guidance is kind of guidance department here at the middle school kind of following the regular timeline communicated with Bristol Aggie. >> They wanted to come on the 20th. They're coming
069on the 20th um with Vinnie in the high school and TJ. They're gonna come out on the 16th, which is the day after the 15th. But again, as we looked at that, we're like, is it just >> Yeah. I was like, I feel like it should all be November 15th, like, you know, but >> I inter I interpreted as um having a date on the calendar by the 15th. Yeah, >> that was that was mine. And I even asking because I feel like we asked that question on the webinar and I don't believe that any of the providers >> knew the distinction. Shock sounds like >> well you were saying Nick uh you know if they don't fund it I guess what's the what's the penalty? What's the ticket? >> How much is the ticket?
070>> No but like where some of the stuff it's like it has to operationalize. So I guess if we put it on there and they say well they they say hey that wasn't done on time or they kind of come back and kind of audit our process and look at when did these things occur then we'll make the correction. But where it's kind of unclear when you we're just trying to do what we think is normal that October 15th very early to get three different schools in to present. >> Yeah. Are also working to get their schools off the ground and then if they have to go to other obviously districts that are you know what I mean like they >> that's going to be just the scheduling thing. So as we looked at it
071and like kind of considered those things, we said that probably means you have to offer like schedule the information. So I guess kind of touching on Justine's question about the dates that do we also have to be aware that like say early acceptance for Southeastern Bristol Aggie like does that have any bearing on this like like if they want say the top stu you know 10 students and they want them to find that commit by a state December 1st does that have any effect >> they usually don't do the acceptance system to file later they get a lot of middle schools do trimesters like we do they want to look at, you know, kind of grades from the eighth grade, not just seventh grade. Um, and so the acceptance for that is much later, but
072now that they're moving to a lottery, I don't know if they're going to really have a scale of like the top students they want. I think it's wise that Norton High School is I mean from from my position it's great that they're coming to the school yearly because a lot of the open houses not just the uh the vote techch schools but your uh you know uh proial schools and things like that they have private schools >> they they're happening no better. So, it's good that we're getting in that competitive uh window there so we can uh you know show everyone what North High School has to offer. >> So, what are we officially voting on? We're voting to add this in middle school handbook essentially. >> Program studies. >> Program of studies. Sorry. >>
073Any else? >> Right. entertain a motion to approve the middle school CTE pathway expiration. >> So session all in favor >> I reluctantly. >> All right. Next we have discussion and vote on school delegate for November annual. Well, it's everyone's favorite time of year where we discuss um the upcoming joint conference between the fast association of school committees and association for attendance um which will be held November 12th and 14th. Each year those school committees have an annual business meeting um and each school committee across the state gets one vote on the issues that they are presenting. Um so only um a school committee that actually um appoints a delegate it delegate not delegate excuse me um is able to um to vote at the annual meeting. So um I believe Nick was your delegate
074last year. Um you can send someone, you can appoint someone or you can choose not to go um in partic >> um the meeting I believe is on on the Friday the 14th at 3:15 p.m. >> Sorry. So, we're only essentially voting to have somebody join just for the delegate meeting on Friday, not necessarily to attend the conference. That's >> okay. >> However, you are all able to attend the conference if you like. >> Yeah. >> Last year. >> Did I tell you to say that? >> Actually, delegated. Um, is there anyone that would like to be the delegates? >> We don't like to do it. No. But if I think we should put someone in in the event that something comes up and we need to vote, we should have something for both do
075it, but no one else will do it. >> Is this the scenario where they send out all the resolutions? Um, >> I needed it. They don't make commonly anything. >> I don't know. Never read them because they never action quite frankly. They always have good ideas, but just no action goes along standard. >> But meetings are the most disorganized thing I've ever seen in my entire life. >> Uh so Nick, you would be reluctantly interested to be the delegate. >> All right. So entertaining a motion to appoint Nick Schlaker as a delegate for the MS MC annual business meeting. >> All those in favor >> uh was there anybody interested in being involved? >> Nursing. >> You could go to the conference. >> Um I mean, do we need an alternate? >> There are some
076school committee people fight over this that they want feel bad. >> Very excited. But no, I didn't know if we needed one. If we needed one, I would do it, but we don't need. >> All right. Uh, then we not have a alternate intelligent. So, we move on to the next item is building project update. for our lovely middle school group. >> Um so earlier this week um we had um some conversations with MSBA and with our um OPM and the designer um architect for the schematic design and we have decided to pull the roof off um repair off the warrant for this fall town meeting which is taking place in just a few days. Um the reason for that is that we need a little bit more information and a little bit more time.
077um to really look at the um differences between restoration of the Norton Mill school roof or full replacement. Um there is not a significant difference. Oh, I mean when you're talking about 10 million, 10 million, 12 million, I mean at that point, um we want to make sure that whatever we're doing, we're doing it right. Um Nort Middle School has had significant issues with the roof since the day it opened in 1998. Um and um I know we have a lot of staff members here tonight from the Norton Middle School that can attest to um how nice and soggy it can be from time to time. Um I don't think anyone is debating on the fact that it needs to be done. Whether you look at school committee, you look at the select board, you
078look at finance committee, this is a project that has to unfortunately I don't believe we have the positive votes for us to get it um passed at town meeting due to a couple different issues, mainly cost and the um aspect of restoration. So, what we're going what we're doing is we are filing an extension with the MSBA um to instead of having it go to the October um instead of our documents being due at the end of this month, they will now be due at the end of December for approval at the board meeting on February 25th. Once it's approved on February 25th, we have 90 days to get it approved at town meeting. So, it's tight. It's tight because typically um Springtown meeting is at the end of or middle of May. Um they
079are willing to work with us if it's like 92 days, 95 days, something like that. So, um I just wanted to give you all an update. Christine and Wade and I met with our um OBM and architect yesterday. Um, so we're we're continuing to work really closely with them, spending a lot of time talking about exactly what this is going to look like. Um, I just want to give you all that update. >> Um, and I correct that for an article to be pulled that has to be voted on. >> Oh, I think I I believe it needs to be voted. Correct. >> Somebody can't vote on it. >> Can't vote on it because it's not on the agenda. Yes, >> we can do it before town meeting on the 20th. Yeah, I believe I
080believe it needs to be. Thank you. Can I pause our >> um while we're all here and talking about this? Can we >> What? So, filing the extension by the end of the but at the end of December. >> So, the ex we have to file for the extension this week. >> Okay. >> Um and which would mean the documents would be due by December 18th. So, we would need to continue to have conversations and meet. We would need to have them come back out to us, present the present what a full replacement would look like just so they can even present to the restoration. Um, and we would need to say like we're going to go in this direction or we're going to go in this direction because you can't submit both the restoration
081and the replacement to the MSBA. We need to make a decision. So, we've got roughly two and a half months, two months to do that. >> It didn't be a joint meeting. >> Uh, no. So, it would be for for you as a committee to decide which direction you want to go in. Um, what we'll do is we'll um ask to be put on a finance committee agenda once we have more information on what this is going to look like. Um, we're going to be reaching out to the permanent building committee and getting in front of them once we have a little bit more information um as well. And if the select board um it's always good to have them um you know behind something so we'll have to be placed on that agenda there
082as well. So I would say um it probably wouldn't happen till mid mid November for us to go in front of the select board and the finance committee. They need to get in front of the plan permanent building committee earlier than that. So when we file the extension by 1218, >> it will be decided on by MSBA on 225. >> Correct. >> We have to in 90 days 225. >> Yes. >> Within 90 days prove that we have funding. >> Correct. >> So you need to have an affirmative vote at town meeting within 90 days. >> Okay. So here's my thought >> because I think we're going to go right down. This is my personal opinion. We're going to go right down the same path we just went down if we don't come up with
083a better plan. >> What I mean by that is what we just did. We just voted as a school committee put this forward. Finom and select board basically crushed it and said they're not going to support it in >> not probably those those words >> basically basically in this current state saying they're not going to support this which would have meant we would have had to go on fall town meeting and try to convince the voters that this is what we need to do and this is the best >> plan going forward on our own little island with no final support. That's what we call debt on arrival that's not going to make it through the voters. So if we all to me what we're doing right now is we're going to file extension get
084a little bit more information sure blah blah blah and then we're going to do the exact same thing come April we're going to go to town meeting granted maybe we'll bring in select board and fin and the building >> I also think you need to present a little bit more publicly in terms of this is what's going on with middle school roof this is why these things need to happen >> but my concern this is my concern why I voted no a few weeks ago this is not going to pass at town music, then this is why I think it's not going to pass on town meeting with barely the money coming from. So I I I see a lot of teachers out here right now. >> If you told me I'm a teacher and
085I got to sit in the town meeting and vote on a roof, but it could cost me 20, 30, 40 members again because the town doesn't have the money. You don't have $4 million sitting around to try to go ahead and do this roof. To me, by doing it at a town meeting means you have to borrow the money. you're borrowing the money from your own selves. So, we're either going to cut other departments or we're going to cut our own operating budget. That is a bad bad thing to do. We've just done that a few times with all the projects that we've done. So, my suggestion here would be to yes, get the extension. We need more time. We need to bring in permanent building committee fin board sooner than later. Get everybody on
086the same page because the right thing to do this board as a smooth then you're not pulling from the operating function. you're pulling from the tax base. It might be a hard sell. However, most people I don't think I've not heard one person disagree that we need a roof over here. So, I think if you put this vote towards the taxpayers, they're going to sit there and say, "Jesus, middle school roofs. This isn't something that is uh you know, we want to add 25 computers and do this, that, and the other thing. It's well the roof to keep the building. We need to we need to have this to keep the building open to keep our teachers and our kids safe." >> I mean, am I wrong? I'm sorry. I just I feel like that
087was kind of what was advised by uh finance committee when we went to that meeting last week and I I was under the impression or felt as if that was kind of the idea or the direction that we were going to be investigating and looking into as part of the reason why we weren't extending. So not just the difference of restoration versus replacement but also discussing more that that pathway. And I think that's part of the bigger picture of what we were going to be looking at over the next couple months. I could be wrong by by tuning in >> in its current state I think we kind of reversed over. >> Yes. >> You know like we we talked about this project and you know we didn't have you know the necessary information on
088where the payment was coming from which is now again file an extension talk to the finance committee and select board who control the budget and then control the debt exclusion and all those terms and we don't control any of that. We just essentially we're saying we need a new roof but >> and we need a better idea of what those numbers look like before we go and we say hey it's going to be x amount of dollars but ultimately it's the school as the school committee and the administrative team it's not our decision where that money is going to come from. So we do need them and to say like hey what is going to happen because we also need the vote. You need you need a vote at town meeting >> and you need
089a ballot. >> We need both. >> Well then why why do you need >> you need voting at town meeting? >> You don't need the ballot for the exclusion >> for a dead >> right. That's my problem. That's what that's what I'm saying. So for a debt exclusion we need the boat. Yeah. We need both. The other thing is too is we can also do like obviously by pushing this back now we're not looking for a roof until September September summer of 2017. >> So that's another concern naturally because now we're going to have to dump in more money to get whatever we have right now leaking somewhat under control for a band-aid on a bullet hole like you keep saying which is completely true. How much is that going to cost us? So I
090don't know if pushing it back to town meeting in April is really the solution. I think we really need to get our hands around this and get a meeting soon sooner than later. Get the town manager involved, the planning the um permanent building committee involved and really look at what is our next step because we could always call a special town meeting in January as well. >> Correct. >> And then you could get a vote right there. Boom. Get it on the ballot for April if you wanted to. You could push it back. You could there's a lot of options there that you could actually might be able to not wait till April to get a vote. You might be able to do it in January. Then you never know. You might get a contractor
091who's like, "Hey, I can do this off some for three months." >> All of those options are open to us. We just need to have the money allocated within those 90 days. So, however we want to do this as a town, all of those are on the table. We just need >> Do you know totally totally understand? But I think >> we're saying the same. >> Yes. Correct. Buy in. But we need Correct. We need the buy in. >> We need to approve. We all need to be on the same page. Um and and we need a direct message that's going to the taxpayers that has support from select board school committee. This is the way to do it. This is what we think is the best option and I can almost guarantee you that
092would probably be approved. If we do it in pieces and parts, school committee's here, FINCOM's here, permanent building is not involved, select board is not supporting, it's going to be a very hard sell for us and Jen sitting on town meeting floor. So, I just feel like if we can do this sooner than later, get a meeting, might still have a shot to get this done somewhere in 2016. Is it a long stretch? Sure. But I I do think it would be somewhat possible if if we get moving. If we if we wait and we're just going to wait on the deadlines and get it in by February and blah blah blah. Who knows? >> Well, I think February is the MS isn't >> February isn't March. >> About 128. So we have to submit
093all of our documentation to them by the 128 and then they have two months to review everything and then their actual meeting would be February 25th >> and essentially we would still have time after their meeting with your option you know if we have to you know put it on the April bound or something like that. So, so the timelines we're talking about from December and February are not ours. That's just to get everything for them. So, we would still essentially have six months to get everything squared away. >> Have you talked to permanent building committee? When's their meeting? >> Um, I emailed the chair and let him know what the plan was. >> So, it's the next permanent building meeting is October 29th, which is actually also listed as soon. >> Yeah. So same
094time >> you're excused. >> Crazy. >> Hard to be a few places at once. It's very difficult, but I guess >> that meeting y >> Well, we we can look at the agenda and see what's on it for that meeting and perhaps >> we divide and conquer. >> or we can add try to bump and bump to the town meeting one and then bump to the next one too. >> Yeah. >> Well, I mean again this to me >> at seven that night instead of six. >> This is a top priority at this point. >> Beg to be at the town. Yeah, I can just >> All right, let me uh look at the agenda. We'll go >> to think yesterday. >> Anything else on the roof? and then JCS and then the December one
095is actually here because um you switch the dates around and >> they're not available room is not available >> the cooking bump. >> Yeah. >> And then do like so December 10th would be JCS that >> Yeah. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. So instead of coming back to the middle school >> Yes. We'll we'll see if we'll see if the room is available um on the 29th p.m. >> because I don't know where the permanent building committee meets. >> Yeah, it might be here. I have to go back and look at >> All right. Well, we'll connect and figure it out yourself. I just knew the date and the time because I was like, "Oh, that's Mark." All right. Anything else on vote moved up? Uh any other business not interested? And a
096motion to journal.