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Select Board Meeting: August 18, 2025

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2025-08-19
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001Good evening and welcome to the select board meeting of August 18th, 2025, 6 p.m. in room 3 of town hall. Welcome all that are viewing and those who are here present this evening. Uh the first item on the agenda is the signing of the warrant. Do I have a motion, gentlemen? >> A motion, Mr. Chair, to sign the warrant. And I would second that, Mr. Chairman. >> That is unanimous. Approval of the regular session minutes of July 28, 2025. >> Motion to approve regular session minutes of July 28th, 2025. >> I would second that, Mr. Chairman. >> That is unanimous. Approval of the executive session minutes of July 28th, 2025. >> Exactly. A motion to approve executive session minutes of uh July 28, 2025. >> And I would second that as well, Mr. Chairman. That

002is unanimous. Um, public hearings. The first public hearing uh is YBS Inc. DBA Peters Market an amendment to the package store wine and malt beverages license change of stock interest and change of manager. Is there someone here representing? >> Uh, attorney is on the >> Attorney. Gotcha. >> Yeah. >> Good evening, Attorney Pearlman. me. Can I You hear it? >> Yes, I can. >> Yes, can. >> Thank you. >> Okay, great. Uh, my name is Arthur Pearlman. I represent YBS, Inc. It's a Massachusetts corporation doing business as Peter's Market at 75 Purchase Street in Milford. uh they're seeking a transfer of 50% of the stock interest in the corporation from Padmashri Patel who was the 100% owner to dexen Patel who will now be a 50% owner. It is also seeking a change of manager

003on the alcohol license >> from Padmasherie Patel to Daxaben Patel. The corporation holds an alcohol license here in wine and therefore the transfer of stark interest and the change of manager on the alcohol license must be approved by the town of Milford and the ABCC. Published notice of the hearing was accomplished by the town. Mailed notice to a butters is not required for a stock change of stock interest or the change of manager. Dexan Patel is currently living at 71 Jones Road in Hopedale and is working at Pack Mackage which has a beer and wine alcohol license. The current operating hours of the store will be maintained. The layout of the store will be maintained. Nothing regarding the operation of the business is changing. This is all about ownership and a change of manager on

004the on the alcohol license. The new owner and manager are familiar with the law relative to the sales of alcohol. They will continue to uphold the statutory law as well as any rules and regulations of the town of Milford regarding the sale of alcohol. I respectfully request that the transfer of stock interest of the corporation and the change of manager on the alcohol license be approved by this board. Thank you. >> Any questions, gentlemen? I have no questions, Mr. Chairman. I think I think Mr. P attorney Pearlman explained everything very well. >> Michael, >> I have no questions either. Mr. >> Given that this is a public hearing, is there anyone else that would like to speak to this matter? >> Seeing no one else that's interested in speaking this matter, do I have a

005motion? >> A motion, Mr. Chair, because everything appears to be in order with the department heads, with the town, and as attorney Pearlman said, there was no change in operation of the business. So, I make a motion to approve uh the application that's filed by uh YVS incororated doing business as Peters Market at 7 Purchase Street. And the reason for this application is for an amendment to its package store wine and malt beverages license for a change in stock intended for uh P. Masher uh A Patel who will be transferring 50% of its ownership interest to uh Dexaben A. Patel uh and named Dexab Ben Patel as manager of the alcoholic license. And again, like I mentioned before, all paperwork is in order and everything seems to be in in good uh form. >> I

006would second that, Mr. Chairman. >> That is unanimous. Uh thank you, Attorney Pro. >> Thank you, Attorney Pro. >> Thank you very much. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Have a good night. The next item on the agenda is a public hearing for excuse me uh Tradicio Duroka Inc. DBA OA bar area transfer general uh on premises all alcohol beverages license. >> Good evening. Please come forward. Thank you. Could introduce yourselves. I'd appreciate it. >> My name is Christopher Flood. I'm an attorney from Marro. This is Jao Rouio with me and they're seeking to have a transfer of license at 119 East Main Street. It's the current location of place called the Vihana Bar and um the gentleman purchased the business and they're seeking to have the license transferred into their name. It's an all alcohol

007pouring license. It's um they're going to have pub food, Brazilian food, >> um and alcohol. The hours would be pretty much the same that the current restaurant is running. We did submit with the application um several months of bank statements as well as the purchase and sales agreement for both the real estate and the business so that you would see the background of how they got here. Um it's been published in the paper uh about tonight's hearing and I believe the town also took care of the certified uh letters to the the abutters. Um the gentlemen are familiar with the operation of a restaurant and know full well that both they and all their servers are going to be tips trained. Mhm. >> So that nobody serves alcohol to minors or to people that are

008intoxicated. So they are well aware that it's a privilege, not a right, and they intend to be good uh business people and neighbors in Milford. >> Okay. So there were floor plans submitted with it >> um showing it's pretty much the current configuration of the existing Vienna bar. I believe there's three entrances and exits. >> Yes. >> So is there any specific questions you have for either of us? >> Yeah. The only thing, attorney uh flood, is that um all the department heads seem to be okay and approved it. Uh the board of health uh did say that the place the restaurant has been closed for some time and they'll need a complete an application and inspection before reopening. >> Okay. >> So that would be from the inspectional services. >> The Milford Board of

009Health, right? >> Border health room six. >> Thank you. Make sure everybody knows. Any other questions, gentlemen? >> If if a motion a motion, Mr. Chair, to u uh I make a motion to approve the application filed by uh Takio DOA Incorporated doing business as Oberabar for the transfer of general uh on premises all alcoholic beverage license held by Vienna Bar Incorporating doing business at Traesco Daka of 119 East Main Street. The new manager will be uh Joah Geraldo Herrojo >> which is the gentleman se that was correct pronunciation right >> okay I'm from the heights >> pending the acceptance >> exactly >> from the board of health board of health right >> so we're going to approve it tonight but you have to come forward with the appropriation or approval from the board of

010health >> correct >> okay >> so my understanding is after the approve I don't know if you voted yet but after you have voted the next it goes to the ABCC for their investigation and then independently he'll reach out to the board of health. >> Correct. >> Sure. >> I would second that, Mr. Chairman. >> Once they give you the certification, just make sure they notify the town administrator. That's all you have to do. >> Okay. >> We'll tell the world how to find exactly what they want. Probably >> they're right around the corner. >> Yeah. So, if he comes in during the day, it's right on the same floor. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> It'll just be an application filled out and an inspection. >> Okay. >> All right. Opening. >> Thank you. Michael,

011you're all set. You seconded. >> I second it. And >> that is approved. Um, thank you, Attorney Fle. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. >> No one from the public. >> Good luck to you. >> Oh, is there anyone from the public that would like to speak to this matter given that it's a public hearing? >> Seeing no one again, >> congratulations. >> Good luck. >> Congratulations. Good luck at the restaurant. Next public hearing is attorney uh Jerry Moody concerning the Verizon cable television contract. >> There he is. >> Jerry Moody, town council president assistant, if you will. Um and this is on Verizon, the cable license. Verizon's been here, I think, for maybe 15 years. They we they're just coming off a 5year license. Before that, there was a 10-year license. I can't

012even recall if there's one before that, but they're one of the two cable providers in town. Uh, and they have to renew the license. We've gone through the process. I've notified you folks, giving you copies of some of the drafts and pointed out some of the issues. It has been pretty straightforward. Most of the changes they sought in the language in the current license, uh, really had to bring it into conformance with federal law. A number of things have changed in terms of regulations, a number of decisions made that affect other things. The important issues have always been, you know, frankly money. And we in the last license reached the maximum that we can extract for PEG access support, which is 5% of gross revenues. So, we've been getting that. So, it's still 5%, we

013have no ability to ask for more. That's federal law. Limits it to the 5%. Uh the one area that we did have an ability and still have an ability to work on is uh capital funding. Uh and in the last license they provided for the last 5-year license $234,000 in capital funding that uh the the PEG Access Group can thus obviously use to improve their facilities. Uh they wanted to do less than that understandably because their subscribership has been dropping. But they finally came to an agreement and they agreed to provide once again the same $234,000 as capital for this 5-year license, which is good. Again, as I said, they're their numbers are dropping and and they both companies if that 5year period I mentioned 2019 to 24 dropped in the range of 38 to

01439%. And that continues down. People are cutting the cable and going to streaming services, direct TV and all of that. The model is going to change in the future. Right now it's the same, but but of course we get 5% of the gross income, they get less gross income that drops. And so the our cable uh access entity which we provide the money to they're squeezed and I'm part of that too and and they've been uh had to make a lot of cuts and reductions and they've been able to provide I think pretty good service in the same service. Um but it's getting harder and harder. The capital money here will help but it doesn't help in the day-to-day operations. and uh they've been working as best they can to make cuts, to make changes

015to live within that dropping 5%, but the day is going to come when that's going to get harder and harder. Hopefully, you know, we can make it another 5 years on this that time and there'll be a new license with Comcast, too. But the model will change at some point, but those are the the essential differences in this license. Um and um yeah, I think the result is the best we can do financially, frankly. Um and and I strongly recommend that you approve it. We're here. It's a public hearing again once again. So you can hear from uh and then after you hear from anybody in the public that's interested uh if you could approve it. And I think Attorney Vani has a couple of originals that you could then sign and I'll get the

016signatures from uh Verizon once you once you've actually approved it. >> Any questions? Happy to try to answer them. >> I I don't have any questions. I read through the material. So >> I I have no question. I went over a lot uh of it. I got some information and I think that uh Jerry did a a great job with this. Uh most of the important things that I noticed when I was reading it and underlining things was that what the public would be interested in. First of all, as Jeremy you mentioned the right to operate under Mass General Laws 166A, which is great. Um uh the system maintenance and custom customer support is u um in in in this contract as well. uh their obligation to provide public and uh education and government access

017uh and and funding in in various public buildings is also mentioned in here. Uh payments are specified that I wrote down $78,000 for time times three. >> They'll pay that $234,000 over three years, not five. 78,000 for three years. >> It'll come to to a total of $234,000. Uh and of course uh we're protected with their liability insurance as well. So, I really Jeremy, a great job. Thank you for taking care of that. And that would be if we approve it tonight, that would be the contract would start today, right? >> It's I we dated it for tomorrow, the 19th. >> Okay. The 19th. Okay. >> They're still working under the old contract and uh this one will supersede that. >> That' be good >> once they sign it. So, >> well, Jerry, you and

018I had conversation in my new residence. I walked around and I was looking for the cable connections and I called and they said, "There are no cable connections." I said, "What do you mean there's no cable?" They said you can either get an antenna or you can stream. I said stream. >> Oh, this is this is at the Birch Street, >> right? And so you're 100% right. So the revenues eventually cuz you know >> tighter we talked about iPhones, >> everything's going to change. So you know, >> yeah, a lot of people are are getting off the cable and they just rely on they've got Wi-Fi connection. They rely upon the streaming services. They can watch. You can get a lot through the streaming services. You may not be able to get channel four, channel

019five, channel 7 like this was 50 years ago, but boy, you you've got thousands of channels if you do it that way if that's what you want. And more and more people are doing it. >> Well, and to uh Selectman Maza Kelly's point. Thank you very much. >> I'm happy to do it. >> You know, great job. Thank you very very much. >> Are there any members of the public that have any questions, statements, concern in this particular matter? Seeing none, uh, do I have a motion? A motion, Mr. Chair, I make motion to approve, um, uh, the renewal of the cable television, uh, license granted, uh, to Verizon, New England, effective, uh, August 19th, 2025 for a term of 5 years. This contract was reviewed and endorsed by our special town council, Jerry Moody.

020I make a motion that we approve. >> I would second that, Mr. Chairman, >> and that is unanimous. >> And thank you very much as always. >> Thank you. You can just sign two originals and attorney if you give me those tomorrow and I'll get I'll get >> signature. You're right. >> Just just just one. Michael, right? There's two. >> There's two. Next item on the agenda, schedule appointments. Uh the police chief, uh Robbie Tino, >> wait to amend article 5, section two of the traffic rules concerning two-hour parking. >> Good evening. Good evening, Chief. >> Good evening. How are you? >> We're good. How are you? >> Oh, every day. Apparently, >> best day of life. >> That's right. >> Here it is right here. Good. >> So, what you have in front of

021you and what we're talking about, it's actually on Exchange Street. And it's kind of interesting this portion of Exchange Street. So, what I think happened is I think if you remember, there was some significant construction on Exchange Street not long ago. And I think all that happened is honestly is I think that the signs came down. >> I think that the signs came down whether it was during construction, they were supposed to be put back up. But anyway, I I I took a good look at it. And what am I talking about? I'm talking about the open spaces. We have um a good traffic policy there already with, you know, there's 15minute parking as you proceed down closer to Main Street. on the opposite side of the street. There's no parking uh past the entrance

022to the municipal lot because that's a turning lane. >> So, we do a good job. I'm talking about before that. Okay. The problem is and and I made sure today that I went down Exchange Street early this morning. So, at 7:15 this morning, the same cars are there as about 20 minutes ago. >> It there's no signs. >> There's no signs to say the way even though in our traffic rules and regs it says 2hour parking. Well, it's not, you know, and I know the board agrees with me, it's not fair to the motorists if the police show up and start writing tickets. It's just not. Um, these people are parking. They don't feel as it's, you know, wrong. Um, but literally, there were three cars today that have been there since4 7 this morning.

023And, you know, I want to there's some language in there and I worked with um the town administrator's office. There's some language in there that didn't make sense to me. it said, you know, following a holiday or um you know, my recommendation is we take that all out of there. We we post it for the hours that we specified 2-hour parking just like Main Street. And this is going to benefit the couple businesses that have come up, the restaurants. Um and my argument there is is that well after 6:00 at night, the municipal lot opens up and people can park in there. It's during those hours that it's very busy there and people wanting to go to lunch and visit the you know those different restaurants and areas and there's you know there's a law

024office there on Main Street that's very busy. Um I think basically just putting the signs up that enforce that is going to be huge for us. Um give people some knowledge and then making it all the time you know because those businesses certainly that the restaurant that's there that the back side of it that's open seven days a week. Um, and I think we address, you know, kind of a, you know, there's a bigger umbrella here as far as the parking later on in the evening. Someone said to me, "Well, why don't you make it two-hour parking all night?" And I said, "The municipal lot opens up with people working." So, I think basically just to keep it in line with Main Street, >> um, is really what we're looking to do here. >> And

025you know what, Chief? We have to tweak it. We >> Yeah. >> You know, Yeah. >> But this is a start. >> Yeah. And I think it's a it's a it's it's a good start. You know, I I talked to somebody who's had a business there for a while and they're like, "Yeah, but it's been two-hour parking and you know, it's the law and you can afford." I go, "It's not posted." We we're not doing that. Yeah. So, that's what you have before you. >> All right. >> The uh the only thing that comes to mind, I just wrote a note and I don't know why it didn't strike me when I read this the other day. Um, and it's up to you, Chief, but you can take a look after I know you're it's

0262-hour parking as far as 9:00 a.m. to 6 p.m. >> And it indicates at any one time between um, and just a suggestion to add the words on the same street because that's where we ran into the person, >> right? You're moving the car. >> The person across from Spalone. >> Yeah. Yeah. You move the car, right? Yeah. >> She would move the car from one space to the other. >> Yeah. Oh, that's Yeah, that's a great point. >> Just >> Yeah. No, that's a good point. Yeah, >> if if you'll take that as a friendly amendment. >> Yeah, I think that's a great idea. Yeah, >> happy to offer that. And then um there is no change. Am I doing some on the section three? >> Yeah, >> she's leaving that as it was

027in the rings. >> So, so that I have it right. Mr. Meza Kelly, would you mind if I made the motion? >> Go right ahead. >> Just add that language. >> Mhm. >> Um, I move that we amend uh article 5, section two, limited parking time on certain streets 2 hours. No person shall park a vehicle for longer than 2 hours at any one time between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 6:00 p. p.m. in the same street. >> I second that. Uh, Mr. chair >> and I would gladly make that unanimous. >> Putting a fake ticket on it doesn't work either. I don't know. Maybe we can try it. >> We have a couple people doing that. >> Blow up. >> There's a couple people doing that. >> Couple of swear words. >> Yeah.

028I had I had to look one I had to look one look at one quite a bit. I was like, "Wow, this is a good fake." I was like, "This is really good." >> There was one your father issued. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That they taking their own ticket from Boston. >> Yeah. But officer Smith doesn't work in Milford, so it doesn't, you know what I mean? It doesn't work. >> Right. District 4 is not out here. >> Yeah. >> Um I I'll if you want to just take that copy, you're welcome. >> Yep. Yep. >> Anything else uh Chief that you have for us? >> I think there's >> that I can pull forward. Uh the only other thing would be the He's going to uh speak along with the fire chief

029on the uh application by brothers. >> So that's coming up right after. Yeah, I have a very brief one for sure. Want to get rid of it? >> Stay for that. >> You can stay. >> Thank you. Please. >> Yeah. Real quick, one item, gentlemen. >> Not at all. >> No, no, no. Please. >> Um, I've been informed by National Grid that they're doing an advanced meeting metering, excuse me, infrastructure project. It'll begin in the area in Milford shortly, continue over the next several months. It's approved by the Department of Public Utilities. It involves installing electric smart meters into the homes and businesses of all customers in our service territories and again throughout the state of Massachusetts including Milford. Obviously, the first phase of the program deployment is to build out the communications or field

030area network which will be used to communicate with the new smart meters. It's necessary that the network is set up and operational prior to National Grid installing the smart meters in Milford. They're going to begin upgrading and modern modernizing its existing infrastructure by installing new communications network equipment on existing andor newly set utility poles in our area. So it's not structural. It'll take place over 3 to 6 months. Once the newly built network is set up, the installation of the smart meters will begin. Uh the goal here is to be have an integrated system consisting of the communication networks, smart meters and various back-end systems to enable a two-way communication and data flow between customers and national grid. It also ultimately will allow customers to monitor and better manage their electric usage and also national

031grid to be aware of and hopefully respond to the outages we get once in a while in real time to lessen that power outage for customers. consultant. Uh, so if you see them working, this is what they're working on. That's all I have tonight. Mr. Chair, >> Mr. Chairman, just let you know, Melody Salman has her hand raised online. I don't >> whatever you want to do with that. >> Okay. When we come to it, we uh we'll bring Melanie in. >> Any questions for the town administrator? >> Not at all. Mr. Chairman, all set. Thank you. >> As always, Rick. >> Thanks much. >> Thank you. >> Um, they're catching up with the water department because that's how they collect >> exactly >> the meters. Um there any old business? No, I don't have

032any, Mr. Chairman. >> I don't have either, Mr. Chairman. >> New business. Um first item is Brothers Tavern LLC or RE, excuse me, a block party. Um there's three items with a one-day beer and wine license, one day entertainment license, and a permit to obstruct. and attorney Melanie Solomon represents uh Brothers Tavern. >> Okay. >> Good evening, Melanie. >> Hi there. Can you hear me? Okay. >> Yes, we can. Thank you. >> We can. >> And the fire chief and police chief are here as well. >> Good evening. Thank you. >> So Melanie, um if you want to just speak to the proposal and we can go from there. >> Sure. So when the tavern was purchased, this was an idea that was more from a b business uh benefit perspective in terms of bringing

033Milford together almost kind of like we do the family funday over at Town Park. um but doing it so that we're catering as a business to our 21 plus community and then our under 21 community with family. Um that that perspective changed when the Central Street Bridge closed. Um I will say that I was not consulted and my boys who own the tavern were not consulted about that bridge closure. In my communications with the other businesses on Central Street, they were not consulted and I cannot describe to you the negative impact that that has had both on the tavern and and other businesses. I've spoken with Diego from the top meat market. I he's the hardest hit. I've spoken with John uh and his brother on Friday and today about the impact on their liquor

034store which is Countryside Liquors. Um Acai Central and Sweet Inspirations, every business that is open has been negatively impacted and that shifted my direction on this proposal to include these businesses. So I've submitted three proposals to the town. One is for Central Street to be closed after the entrance to the municipal lot before the tavern and after the right around the exit which is right at uh Crown Electrical and Brothers. The second is for Central Street to be closed from Main Street at Central to where you can exit right at Crown Electrical. And then the third is to not shut down Central Street, but to then use the rear parking lot, which I've already spoken to Marlin about, and I've received his permission to use his parking lot behind the tavern and the driveway, which

035is an easement for brothers as well as Crown to have the block party back there and then use the sidewalk, which would benefit vendors. And I would be specifically focusing in the first instance to individuals who have businesses on Central Street to come up further up the hill. Um, but Sweet Inspirations and Acai would benefit directly from that because they're within the immediate vicinity of the tavern. Um, the goal is is to have acoustic m music in the back starting at 11:30 going to 6 with various bands coming out. Um, I've spoken with Irene from Crafts. They would like to do like a small beer tent in the back pending approval from the board, which at this point I I'm not quite sure on the timing of that. I don't think that it would be

036feasible. Um but to be able to serve to them um food, wine, and beer in the back with the music. Uh potentially using the driveway section uh as the under 21 under 21 coming back out onto the sidewalk so that we can have kids there. They want to play cornhole face painting. I know that we have a local ice cream truck in town and bringing that to Central Street and not only driving business to to brothers but to other local establishments. In speaking with Diego and John with Diego, we've conferenced the idea of he would come up the street and offer gift certificates that if you spend a couple of bucks there, you'll get a certain amount off. So, if you spend $10, here's a $5 gift certificate. It's a little bit more difficult with

037John because he has a retail license. And so we've brainstormed the idea that if on the same day and we're proposing September 20th that if you go to to Countryside Liquors and you can show me a receipt because I would be there all day on the 20th, we will discount an appetizer for you just for giving your business to them because they've been that hard hit. Patrick from the lottery commission services Milford and when he came in to offer our restaurant supplies about two weeks ago he said that Countryside was down about 60 to 70% on their lottery sales and that was big to the lottery commission because they're one of the bigger uh vendors in town for lottery. So, I've taken into consideration what it would take for detail officers, what it would take

038from police and fire, and the traffic on Central Street since that bridge closure. From my own personal observations has decreased probably 60 to 70%. And that's based upon people that we don't see driving down there. We don't see the traffic. We're not seeing the speeding cars. There's parking available on Central, which is normally not an opportunity. People are parking in the municipal lot or on Main Street to come to our establishment. Our numbers have been down since the closure. Um we're not even getting close to occupancy. Um when we have regular bands in on the weekend, so it it's been kind of tough and we're a newer business and we were looking at this as being something different. When we opened, we wanted it to be a direct benefit for the tavern, but we're cognizant

039and aware of the businesses collectively who have been adversely affected with the bridge closure. And again, I I know this isn't a board of selemen problem, but we none of the businesses were consulted on this and all the businesses, John and Diego said, "Please on our behalf, nobody's happy about it and they're struggling. We don't want to close. They don't want to close. and we're hopeful that if we get approval of any of the three proposals that I sent to you, I'm inviting those businesses to come and we mutually support one another. So I'm hopeful that with the three proposals that I've given you while it is ideal in from brother's perspective that there be some sort of street closure that there would be access um via depending on proposal one and two coming up

040central street the the opposite way access via the municipal lot access via main street if it was only closed at acai but there are ways emergency resources to get to any emergency that may exist. And this closure is limited. It's we're looking at closing it if you approve it at 10 from 10:30 to 6:30. So closing it at 10:30, reopening it at 6:30 and it's already closed down the end of the street. You're looking at this still accessible from Jefferson Street. It's still accessible from North Bow Street. So there there are other options where you know we want to do this. We want to do it for the town. We want to do it for our fellow businesses. So one way or another we are seeking approval but we welcome any feedback and suggestions that

041the town may have. >> Okay. Um we'll hear from the police chief, fire chief and then if you gentlemen have any questions or >> so the fire chief and I worked um on this we saw the request we actually thought about you know basically proposal one two or three and anytime that we we have a proposal like this like this isn't the first goound the fire chief and I have done with this you know recently um it was St. Mary's >> and we do fireworks. We do all these things together. And there's a bunch of things. It's not just about the flow of traffic. It's it's EMS where we're going to stage EMS. You know, is ambulance going to be able to get in and out for for this event. I'm not even talking about,

042you know, a fire truck or an ambulance getting down down uh Central Street, which is something that we talked about. So without droning on and and and um you know going through all the variables that we discussed, you know, I I really think that option number three is doable. Um I spoke to uh attorney Salman about it and you know certainly I I get it and you know I applaud her for looking out for you know her and you know the boys that run it for the other you know patrons cuz everybody is taking a hit >> and you know I mean the light is at the other end of the tunnel. I know it's almost over, but it's not over. Um, so, you know, that's really commendable that they're just not being self- serving

043in all this. >> Um, but I think that option three is is doable. I think we can do it with the minimal impact cuz the other thing too, you're there trying to raise money, you're there trying to support business. You don't want to, you know, burden them with a a bunch of police details, you know, fire details, EMS details, cuz then, you know, the juice doesn't justify the squeeze. um at the end of the day. So, um option three, I I I think I support. I know the fire chief and I talked about it, but I'll let him um answer. Well, option three or Sure. No, I agree with Chief Dino. Um option three has little impact on the fire department. When I looked at proposal one and it looks like after theie business, that's

044where we would have to detour in so to speak. Either that or come through Jefferson Street, come through the uh municipal lot out by Crown Electric. The problem is the on street parking, the way it's situated and the size of the vehicles. I don't think we're going to be able to take a left to go down Central Street. So that puts us back to Brag Slip and Baker either to come through Bragg and come up the wrong way Central Street >> or come in through Baker coming up the wrong way on Central Street with parking on both sides coming down Central Street and then you get a float. we'll have opposing traffic, right? So, my large trucks will have no place to go and and that's that's the struggle and you know, Central Street is

045got some large buildings and they want to make sure that we have 100% access and and that's a concern for us. So, um you know, I know that we could come up the wrong way. I don't think it's the safest thing to do. Last resort for us. >> Um we we we avoid that at all costs. Michael, >> Mr. Chairman, if I may, uh, respectfully, I would ask that possibly we could continue this to our next meeting. >> Don't think time, they're going to want to advertise, not to put pressure on the board, but I'm assuming if we if the board does vote to do something, they're going to want to advertise the event and then, you know, unless you have a next meeting quickly. >> Well, I was hoping that I'm sorry, I didn't

046mean to cut you off. No, no, I didn't. >> I was hoping that we would have the opportunity with both chiefs um with yourself as a town administrator, and I'm not opposed to option three, but I'd like to get the feel for it. And um if you read the proposal, what they're they think they're going to have for attendance. Well, those vehicles are going to have to go somewhere. So, they're going to have to be on Central Street, the municipal lot, whatever. The fire chief is still going to be responsible for getting the apparatus in there. And the police chief is still going to be responsible. We know we've already had an incident there one night that was not the best. And so I would like to have the opportunity as only one member of

047this board to walk around with the chiefs and with attorney Solomon, the owners of the establishment, yourself, Mr. Vani, and my fellow board members and just look at option three and say, "Okay, this is what you're proposing." But throw the questions out. What if this happens? What if that happens? Because as you know what we witnessed in the news today, everybody is being reactive instead of proactive. And I would like to be proactive. Just my opinion. I think that we can accomplish that. I mean, the responsibility rests with the police chief and fire chief ultimately. I mean if we approve option three it has to be workable >> their approval to take place. >> So we would be approving with the caveat and understanding that they ultimately have to approve that the event takes place.

048>> Mhm. Yeah. You you guys the needs of public safety have been met. Um, and I think attorney Solomon has been speaking to that that she has been working as the chief mentioned, Chief Tino mentioned. >> Um, and I believe that she's had a conversation with she had a conversation with you, Chief Nelson. No. Okay. I only because I read your memo and uh it's fairly in-depth. Um, I I take what you're saying in particular, um, Chief Nelson, because if you do come up the one way with lodge apparatus, you still have to get out of there, you know. >> Sure. >> When you're done conducting whatever business you're handling, you still have to leave. So I know that, you know, we entrust the responsibility to the people that are right there, you know. Um

049that that' be my recommendation. We make a decision of which of the options we're comfortable with based on what they've told us tonight and with the understanding that it takes place as long as they have that comfort level. um coming up to the event itself because that's where the permits get issued. You have a a permit to obstruct, you have an entertainment uh permit, and lastly, you have a one-day uh bear and wine license. If they're not comfortable, those permits don't get issued. >> Exactly. Um and again, I I I appreciate what what Michael was saying as well. >> I do as well. um for the simple reason we did have an incident, not an incident, but the same type of a situation that came before us a few years ago when the Fourth of

050July committee wanted to have the carnival at the high school and of course we turned that down because of the uh the uh problems of getting uh first responders in and out properly uh traffic in and out properly. The only thing I was going to ask Attorney Solomon too uh where I did read the application that was very well filled out, Attorney Solomon, I and I thank you uh for your presentation as well and we appreciate the whole reason why uh you would like to have this uh block party. Uh the only thing I I did see and Michael brought it up a little bit too was there's going to be from three to 500 attendees and Mike came up with a good point too, Attorney Solomon, is do you have any idea if that

051would, you know, take a lot of parking in the parking lot and on side streets and whatnot where that will still have an impact on the um um first responders? >> So, can you hear me? >> Yes, I can. >> Okay. So that is a very rough estimate. I have I think in all honesty and I think all of you know I mean this is something that I don't recall when I was a patron of Central Tavern. I don't ever recall them doing anything like this. So that that's my best guesstimate on inviteee turnout. It would be my plan with our social media um person who does this to let everybody know that they can park on Main Street, they can park on Park Street, they can park on Exchange Street, and to let them

052know other parking that's available so that we're not inundating other areas. However, if people are parking legally, the the egress to get in and out of these lots would conform to what I think the police and fire chief would expect anyway because those parking spots are already allocated. We wouldn't if somebody was to park legally. And I am very hands-on with the tavern. If something happens, I do what I need to do first instance. If I need to contact the police in the second instance, I do. So, if I were to see an obstruction, I'm going to be there all day from open to close for this event. And if I saw something, I would handle it immediately. But I'm expecting that our turnout would abide by the laws for parking and see a designated

053spot and park and those spots are already allocated based upon the police and fire being able to get in and get out. So, I don't see even if the municipal lot was at 100% capacity, I don't see how that would change anything for the police and fire because the buildout of those lots, I'm sure, already conform with their needs for emergency services. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, like I said, I Mr. Uh, chair, I I appreciate what you said as well where this is in the hands of the um uh uh uh public safety uh officials and um if we do approve it, I would uh I would ask to be approved um u pending the more investigation on the uh uh uh police and fire department as as you go on, you know, where

054you can come up with other s suggestions uh such as if you see something that you didn't see before with Melanie or or the other or or or the other uh uh individuals that were involved with you. Uh that in other words, if it's approved, it's just not be approved as is. It's approved as any any other um uh suggestions that you may have to to provide better public safety and and and better response if if needed in a case like this. >> Sure. If if I may, you know, I'm going to I'm going to quote um the honorable Judge Kellan. Uh he used to say all the time when he ruled, "I have area knowledge." Um right. He has area knowledge. He's from the area. He he grew up in town. He's area knowledge,

055you know, and oddly enough, this was B sector. This was my sector as a patrolman uh forever when I came here. Um so I knew every inch of of what they have proposed and you know, I went over it with the fire chief and him and I always work so well together. Um this is not reinventing the wheel, right? Um, and and I think, you know, going into their own space, their own parking lot, their own area. >> I I don't see it as this, you know, breakout. >> You know what I mean? I do see that on the street, >> right? I think that's a concern on the street, you know? Um, but I'm not worried about, you know, and and to just echo what Attorney Solomon said, the parking's the parking, >> right?

056>> The parking is the parking, you know what I mean? it it is laid out out back in the municipal lot so the fire truck can get through. That's what it's laid out. We're not going to let somebody park illegally just because there's an event, >> you know, that's that's not going to happen. Um, so I'm I'm confident uh with that and like I said um the fire chief and I talked about the options and we think that if the board wants to go forward with any of these options, the only option that I can endorse um and you know F chief can speak for himself is option three. >> Okay. Yes, Michael. >> If I may, Attorney Solomon, um if I may ask, and you said that you are hands-on with what's going on,

057if you could please uh work very closely with both chiefs to make sure that um this event, you know, goes off and is handled properly. I would greatly appreciate that. In no way do I or any member of this board. I can only speak for myself want to hamper or hinder the success of any business on Central Street. But we also have a responsibility to protect. So I appreciate your comment that you're hands on. Um if you could please work with both chiefs to make sure that this event is is a successful event. >> I will absolutely do that. I can tell you that um that I will send an agenda to them so that they understand the planning. Um if this is approved, the setup will occur the night before. Um I have to

058I'm I'm out of state right now, but when I get back, I will confer with the boys to determine you. You know, it was my position that if this was going to be option three, we would still hire a detail officer for it. That's just my my personal preference. We've hired a detail officer um in the past only one time when we had a door that was compromised and the establishment was going to be open. We hired an overnight detail. I I absolutely want complete transparency with the police. They will know if the um permit for the obstruction is granted, however many vendor tables I can get on the sidewalk so that the these local businesses can come in and promote their businesses. I have absolutely no problem with that. And I think the board

059knows that that's something that I would do without you even asking. Um, but I have no problem giving them every bit of information that I have in terms of setup time, breakdown time, and if if anything is goes, you know, astray, which I don't think that it's going to happen. I I will definitely engage in services of the police, but I, you know, I'm there almost every weekend. This is one weekend I'm just going to say I'm on vacation. I needed it. So, you know, I'm not there, but this is a day that I will be there from open to close and I will be running all of this. This is 100% me. >> Chief Nelson, >> Mr. Chairman, is uh just a question for Attorney Solomon. Is the food prep all inside uh the

060restaurant or are we cooking outside underneath under underneath the tent? >> No, no, no. So, the food prep is all inside with the intent of having servers to bring food outside to them. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome, >> Mr. Chairman. I just like to add in to um Mr. Walsh's recommendation. I think moving forward, I certainly would like to see what their final diagram is going to be. >> Yes. >> You know, that the way the fire chief and I can go over it and, you know, cuz when we look at a diagram, okay, you have this vendor here, this vendor there. him and I look at it as, okay, well, somebody collapses over here. How do we get to that person? How are we going to get them in and out? You know,

061um, and that's not to say that anybody has disregard for they're just not programmed to think like that, >> right? >> You know, we are. >> Um, so that's the only, you know, caveat I would say is that any, for lack of a better word, floor plan, >> design of this layout needs to be approved, you know, by the fire chief and myself before implementation. That's all. >> Great. The last thing we want is to be surprised by the attendance and then we have to answer tough questions after. Absolutely. Why did this happen? We weren't >> prepared for the crowd. Could be a nice September, you know, Saturday in September could draw crowd. >> That's no different than what we've done with the carnival. For instance, when it was down at Imperial >> Chevy, the

062old Imperial Chevy, >> right? Yeah. you know, you had to have pathways where you could get staff and equipment in uh if someone needed assistance. So, I mean, I I think leaving those professional decisions to you folks as far as setting up tables and obviously you don't want to block, you know, access or egress. >> Exactly. So, um I I just my opinion is, you know, you you're where the rubber meets the road. So, I'm it's really it's your decision. You've already made a determination that you're comfortable with the third option as presented by attorney Solomon. Um and and I would recommend that the board that we move forward with that. And the reason that I don't believe we should delay is pretty much what uh Ricky was said by Mr. Vani is we're literally

063one month away from when they want to have this particular event. if if it was an event that such as when the carnival was wanted to go to the high school that we were opposed for the reasons that we were not opposed when it was at Feno Field or down at Imperial Chevy because we relied upon the professional people sitting in these seats to make those decisions of whether or not they would have reasonable access. Um again I I would leave it to the two chiefs. Um so my recommendation is that we should make a decision as to the three options first. Um because there's a permit to obstruct the occupation first. >> Yeah. U Mr. Chair, I make a motion that we uh approve uh the application uh and give a permit to obstruct

064for this block party uh at 31 uh Central Tavern uh where it's going to be. It's going to be in the parking lot uh driveway behind Brothers Tavern and a sidewalk parking uh space abuing uh Brothers Tavern. >> And Mr. Chairman, I would make that unanimous with the understanding that Attorney Solomon, that you will work closely with our chiefs to make sure that it's a safe and enjoyable event. The next item on the agenda is um a one day, one time entertainment license. Mr. Chair, I I make a motion that we approve the entertainment license for this block party uh that is going to be held uh on uh September 20th, 2025 uh from 11:30 a.m. to 6 uh p.m. for an entertainment license uh outdoor games uh in um a combination of um uh

065audio speakers and music. >> I would second that, Mr. Chairman. >> And that is approved. The last item is a one-day uh alcohol license for beer and wine only. >> Yes. I make a motion that we approve the alcohol uh one day license uh for uh this uh block party again on September 20th, 2025 from 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. >> and make that unanimous. Mr. Chairman, if I could just suggest an amendment, which I usually do, is to go one hour >> beyond the uh 6 p.m. to allow them the opportunity to not serve any other alcohol, but to allow people to consume that which they already bearing wine only. Um, Charlie Solomon, so that there's no misunderstanding because it has occurred in the past, they cannot bring And because of this, they cannot

066bring an alcohol drink um a hard alcohol drink from the establishment out into the area where the one day liquor license is. >> That's correct. Any hard alcohol, any mixed drinks would be served on from. >> Right. Okay. Just to make sure that that >> Yeah. Again, Mr. Chair, >> everybody has the same understanding. >> I I I I feel comfortable with this uh as well. I think we're in good hands with both um chiefs for public safety and also attorney Solomon who seems who's been before us before and does have uh uh quite the experience in regarding uh uh alcohol license and uh what they can and cannot do to to keep everybody safe. So I'm I have uh but it's going to be a continuous work in progress. As I said, it's something

067that's going to be keeping an eye on and getting suggestions and more improvements until the party actually begins. >> Absolutely. Thank you. >> So, the event is unanimous. >> Yes, it is. >> Thank you, board. >> And thank you, chief. I'll be sure to reach out. >> Thanks. Thank you, >> gentlemen. Take care. >> Thank you. The next item on the agenda is the town administrator acceptance of mass general laws chapter 138 section 12D which is uh particular statute dealing with alcoholic beverages in the ABCC. The governor passed this on June uh signed this, I'm sorry, into law on June 30th. And basically, it allows local boards, this select board to allow holders of onremise wine, malt uh beverages license holders to trade in their license for a nontransferable on premise all alcoholic beverage license

068if you accept the new statute. Um, I think the intent in talking to state rep uh and town council attorney Murray is for a while there has been a push to allow local boards to make more determinations as to types of alcohol licenses, number of alcohol licenses. It's somewhat of a compromise. Again, it's non-transferable. So, if they discontin uh you're not going to create another license, all alcohol. So uh the first step would be for this board if you're so inclined is to accept Mass Journal Law Chapter 138 section 12D. They're having uh webinars that uh I will attend along with my administrative assistant who gives handles these uh types of matters uh to get further clarification and edification from the ABCC. Uh but again, I think that's the intent behind it, but so you're

069not going to create more um overall licenses. Again, non-transferable. >> Any questions, General? >> Yeah, I just have some comments. I read this over quite extensively and did some re research on it as well, Mr. Chair. And I think the intention too of Governor Healey, again, like what attorney Balani said too, was not to make it so where they can transfer it, but when you look at it as a a town, it could be uh meaningful to boost small businesses, especially restaurants where they had a tough time uh for the past several years. Exactly. >> Um and to expand their offering uh without going through the complex process of of a new license. >> And these are on premises. on premise and what again like uh the like the code like the statute does say

070it's non-transferable. So uh that it can't be sold or used to inflate any any market value of their of their restaurant as well. Um uh there are clear guidelines for the application process. There's fees, there's a public notice, there's hearings and this will ensure fairness for all applicants as well. And to me, I guess it's a smart way for local economy uh to to be boosted and maintaining at the same time us maintaining oversight of it as well. >> Absolutely. I would agree. >> Clears up the blurred line of uh because beer, wine, and cordials, you can essentially serve even liquor as long as it's flavored. So someone with the beer, wine, cordials, by way of example can serve Captain Morgan rum, but they can't serve Bugatti rum. >> Wow. >> They can serve a

071vodka that has infused in it >> lime, lemon, um, you know, the hot pepper vodka. There's so many different things as long as there's something else infused in it. So takes away and many people opt for the beer wine cordials with the hope that someday your liquor will come about. Um because it does boost their business um it's a fact. So that's how the beer wine cordials came about. In any event, those licenses um is to uh I guess kind of subvert the statute as far as >> Sure. >> license limitation. So, I would recommend that we approve this. Uh do I have a motion? >> A motion, Mr. chair to vote to approve the provisions of Mass General Law's uh uh chapter 138 section 12D which authorizes this select board to allow um holders

072of wine and malt beverages license uh issued under section 12 to apply for a non-transferable license for the sale of alcoholic beverages to be consumed on premises subject to all applicable requirements under section uh under chapter 138 uh and approved by the alcoholic beverage commission. And I would second that, Mr. Chairman. And >> that is unanimous. Um Rick, the only thing I would suggest now that we've approved this is at some point to those restaurants that have be a memo to the ABCC and then we will do a memo to each of them with a copy of the statute and with an explanation of what they can and cannot do at their at their choose to do. Yeah, that'd be great. Y Thank you. The next item on the agenda is town administrator concerning the

073transition of appointments uh related to the uh town planner. >> Yes, as we know um fortunately Larry is retiring in a little less than two weeks now or two weeks. Uh so there's a number of appointed positions uh that the town planner uh is a representative to the MAPC to the swap southwest planning committee 495 Metro West Partnership the Milford Economic uh Development Commission EDC. So it's just transferring those responsibilities to the now new town planner uh who as you know has already started. >> Mhm. I I don't have any issue since I think that's a responsibility >> that we gave to the town administrator. >> Absolutely. >> Several years ago. So, but I appreciate you bringing it to our attention. >> Oh, Larry. Larry is very thorough. >> Okay. The next item on the

074agenda is uh the Lucas Denomin Legacy Foundation, a permit to obstruct uh the walk for suicide awareness. This is an annual event. Yep. I move uh Mr. chair to make a motion uh that the select board approved the request uh for the uh Lucas de uh the nominee uh legacy foundation for a permit to obstruct Sunday September 14th 2025. Uh this walk will begin at 9:00 a.m. for the purpose of holding a walk to uh benefit suicide awareness which this event uh which uh we wish we wish this event much success. >> Second that Mr. Chairman that is unanimous. Next item on the agenda is the uh Milford Youth Commission resignation uh from the commission. I've received a U memo from Courtney Walsh indicating that um she hopes that the summer camp is going well

075and she regrets to inform uh the board that after some consideration she's resigning from the youth uh commission effective immediately. uh and she that she hopes that everyone has a a safe place to go uh visa v the uh youth center and uh Michael I think you're going to recuse this is this okay so I I would make a motion that we accept the resignation with regret and that we uh let Courtney Walsh know that we appreciate her service to the youth commission >> and I second that Mr. Chair I unanimous where there's uh Michael accusing himself. Next item on the agenda is St. Mary the Assumption Paris Parish, excuse me, a one-day wine and mold. Oh, I skipped Tom special town meeting. Rick, I apologize. That's okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just setting a date.

076I worked with the finance director. Um he feels everything can be ready for an October 20 special town meeting date. Obviously, if it went a second night, we always do it following Wednesday the 22nd and there um board just would need to vote to approve the date. >> Do I have a motion? A >> motion, Mr. Chair. >> I would second that, Mr. Chairman. >> That is unanimous. >> Now, we'll deal with St. Mary's of the Assumption Parish one-day wine and malt beverage license. >> Mr. Chair, after reviewing the application, I make a motion that we approve this application for a 1-day liquor license for beer and wine only uh for St. Mary's Parish uh for September 13th, 2025. And the the application does say 5:15 to 10:00 p.m., but as um our chairman likes

077to recommend, and it's makes perfect sense that we go from 4:15 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. uh on uh September 13, 2025 for this event. >> I would second that, Mr. Chairman. >> That is unanimous. Next item on the agenda is St. Mary's the Assumption Parish for one-day entertainment license uh concerning the same event. Uh Mr. Chair of reviewing the application, I make a motion that we approve this application uh for a one-time entertainment license for St. Mary's Parish to be held uh September 13, 2025 at 5:30 p.m. Uh there will be a DJ or instrumentalist vocal or music. >> I would second that, Mr. Chairman. >> And that is unanimous. Next item on the agenda is the planning board remand of a zoning bylaw amendment accessory dwelling units uh >> and parentheses ADU. >> Yep.

078We did get some commentary from the state when the special legislation was put forward. So town planner Duncan and and now town planner Matt uh Benoy have worked on it. uh attorney town council Murray has reviewed it and uh this is it just needs to be remanded so it's timely for this special town. >> Absolutely. >> Yes. Okay. Mr. Chair, I make a motion that we uh remand the proposed zoning uh bylaw amendment regarding accessory dwelling units to the planning board for a public hearing to and also to be included in the October 27th, 2025. Believe that's October 30th now, right? >> Uh Ricky, >> 20th. 20th. >> I'm sorry. The 20th. >> Correct. of a special meeting. >> We made that change today and these changes will bring the town into compliance with new

079legislation and feedback from the attorney general's office. >> I would second that, Mr. Chairman. >> And that's unanimous. And the next item is the invitation to speak. Michael, >> please come forward. Michael, you said one. Mhm. >> I know the family. >> Yeah, >> we all do. >> Good evening, Michael. >> Good evening, Michael. >> The floor is yours, sir. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. >> Please introduce yourself. Uh certainly Mike just said that it's on the record. >> My my name is uh Mike or Michael Viscanti. I live at number seven Muriel Lane in Milford. Um I came here tonight uh with the hopes of maybe getting an update on the status of uh a request I submitted regarding uh stop signs, both removal and installation. And if um if you like I

080I I have copies of of of what that that I could give you of what my the request was. >> I I recall it. >> Okay. >> So I I don't need a copy of >> I don't need Okay. Uh my my original request was sent on March 18 of this year. I did uh politely ask for the status of my request on uh May 7th of this year. Uh hearing no response or receiving no response, I again asked politely for a status update on May 28 of this year. Once again, receiving no response and and your board not discussing my request, I then submitted once again politely a a request for a status update on June 10th of this year, which gets us to where we are now. And that's why I'm here to

081see maybe if I could get some sort of u update on the status of my request in terms of will you be discussing it um or or will you not be discussing it and as important if not more important I'm I'm wondering about the uh process for what correspondence your board discusses and and and who decides what correspondence requests come go before your board board discussion. I say that only because it seems to me that for this request which was submitted back in March 8 and still uh undisussed if that's a word. I don't know is that Rick might know if that's a word. Undisussed as far as I know at this point. So I I don't know what what the protocol is for when you when these requests, not just mine, but any request

082comes before your board for discussion and vote. I believe that if I'm correct and you can tell me if I'm not. I believe that your request is it's exact if not I don't want to use the word simple because I think it's exact to a request that you had made previously >> um which I know was addressed when I was the police chief and I know that it was addressed when I was on the board at one point. um as far as the erection of stop signs to deal with >> speed >> on on the street where you live or the neighborhood in which you live. Um, and my recollection is that I know that I had put in writing back when I served as the police chief that the the regulations don't allow for

083the use of stop signs to regulate speed. It's not an appropriate use. Um, so I believe that that issue has been dealt with. Um, as far as your question of who decides what is brought before the board, it's actually the chair that sets the agenda. Um, I was of the view or at least I believed that you had been notified by town hall by out of town administrator's office that this is a matter that we had already dealt with. Yeah, I thought that too, Mr. Chairman. That that's why Michael. No, no, no. You know, >> if I may, but let me deal with the last issue because sub when when that decision was first made that signs would not be erected, stop signs to regulate traffic. Uh I know that you came um with the

084retort that you believe then that we should take down the signs >> on Hamilton. Emerson Street was the one. Yeah. >> And at that time, um, the position of the board, I was not on the board. I was the police chief that I know that that wouldn't take place because there was little information, if any, I don't believe there was any, um, as to why those signs were put up on Hamilton Street. Um, if it was to regulate traffic, excuse me, speed of traffic, then the question would have been at the time when that was done, were were the regulations um the same? I don't know. I don't have any answer for you. So, that's why Hamilton Street was never addressed to take signs down. Okay. >> I I I hear you. the the request

085that you cited, the first request you cited has really nothing to do with this request. That request was dealt with and denied. And I understand that and I and I received notice that that was actually I think I might have been here when it was denied. >> You think it was? Yeah. This is is a different request based on my research and my communications with Mass DOT and and I and I I did uh forward to your board the communication from Mass DOT confirming that to to regulate speed with stop signs is a direct violation of Mass General laws. I believe it's chapter 85 section two if I'm not mistaken. I could have the section wrong. In any case, it's a direct violation. It's a direct violation of >> mast laws. I believe it's 85

086section two >> which has been in place forever. So the the the the law was in place when it was completely ignored and those stop signs were erected to control speed. If if you if you look at the minutes of the board meeting that that that approved those stop signs along with the chief's regiment recommendation, you'll see that it's not the minutes are not detailed enough to indicate why those stop signs were put up, but the discussion and the request that evening was specifically detailed to control speed and only to controlled speed. >> That board completely ignored Mass General laws. >> As a result, those signs sit there today illegally and the they need to be removed immediately if not sooner. If unless your board chooses to ignore Mass General Law Chapter 85, section two.

087Now, if you do, if your board does decide to ignore Mass General laws, then the second half of my request was to install stop signs, and I've indicated where. >> Mhm. >> To control speed on another street in Milford. And who knows, maybe many other streets in Milford will now have stop signs to control speed. I for forgive what might what might might I see now might be a little bit of sarcasm when I when I if I close by saying what's good for the goose on on on so >> yeah I let me say Michael that I I I don't disagree with you on at all either >> I wouldn't recommend that signs be posted stop signs >> Mhm. purposes of controlling speed. As it relates to Hamilton Street, I I didn't find any

088information that told me that those signs were put for purposes of regulating speed. If they were, I would recommend that we take them down. >> Just as I did with speed signs throughout the town. Mhm. >> Um, you may recall I had I had them taken down speed signs throughout the town because there were no warrants, meaning the paperwork from um Mass DOT allowing for the speed sign to be put up. So, I I'm not for putting up signs for the sake of putting up signs um for purposes that they're not designed for. Now, if you're telling me that in the minutes of a meeting of the board that those signs they specifically said those signs on Hamilton were put up to regulate speed, I'm off taking them down. That >> No, actually, I'm saying

089the opposite. I'm saying >> I couldn't find anything. >> No, nor could I. All I'm going by is what was what was discussed at the meeting and what was requested at the meeting. And there was the it was specifically to control speeds. >> Is that recorded, Mike? >> No, no, this goes back well. >> Well, I know. I know. I mean, >> I hear I hear you. I understand that. >> I'll tell you. I'd take down the stop signs on Hamilton in 10 seconds. >> Signs don't belong there. They're a direct violation. Tell you tell you the truth. I think >> I don't I don't I didn't come here to argue. I just came here. >> No, I'm not arguing with you at all. I agree with you. Signs are a direct violation. >> Yeah.

090And and Michael, if we could have any any proof >> that they were there because they were put there as a result of the select board ordering that because of speed >> like to like our chairman says, we're definitely asked to take him down tomorrow morning. >> Okay. Well, if if you review MUT CD, which is mass DOT's acronym for >> uh municipal uniform uh >> traffic control traffic control devices. Okay, you will see that >> where those signs are is a direct violation. Regardless of what the minutes say, regardless of what the request was, the signs are a violation and need >> only if they were put up for speed. >> Well, there's no other reason to have stop signs there. >> What about the intersection cars coming either direction? >> No, there's no

091there's no >> one that's not added. >> And then then the stop sign should be on the side street, not the main road. >> Well, it's usually it matters. It is what it presents as far as the danger. I I I believe that there's one of the stop signs on Hamilton that is not at an intersection. >> There is. It's at somebody's driveway. Believe it or not, I'd love to Can I have a stop sign at my driveway so I can get out easily? >> Come on. Give me a break here. Excuse my language, but >> Jeepus, >> you your point is well taken. >> Very well. >> That once again, I didn't come here to argue to present my case. >> You make sense, Michael. and and also my contact at Mass DOT is

092anxious for me to get back to him with with respect to to what you have voted on this issue. Okay. >> Excuse me. >> He's very interested in knowing how you voted on this anyway. Um >> they can and believe >> they can order that a sign be taken down. That's that's how I dealt with the speech. >> I don't know the extent but take it down. >> Yeah. >> And Mr. I was always going to recommend if Michael can can get a hold of his contact and and if he can give us some documentation that it should be taken down, we'll definitely act on it. >> It's it's going to site the the uniform traffic control devices. Uh >> which he did, which he did, and I and you have that correspondence, right? >>

093But but if he can relate that to that particular stop sign, then that way there we can we can >> I think the regulations do speak to it. You know, I I get exactly what Mike Viscanti is talking about. >> I do too. >> You know, we can all sit here and wink at each other and say it's, you know, it's pretty obvious why it was put there. I just couldn't find anything that told me that when I was the police chief that I could then come to the board and say, "Take that down. >> You need some >> it doesn't belong there." Um, what I would suggest is that we ask the police chief, you know, does that sign have any utility, meaning the proper use of a stop sign. >> Mhm. other than

094to regulate the speed of vehicles on animals. >> To add insult, excuse me, if I may, to add insult to injury, if you sit down there for an hour, okay, you will see that very few, if any, cars stop at those stop signs. What slows traffic down in that street right now is the ' 06 vehicle parked there at somebody's house. >> Oh, a state the state cruiser. Yeah, her name is. Yeah, >> I don't know who it is, but >> I I know I know who she is. >> That's what slows people down. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> She's >> Well, I think that's a good idea, Tom. We could if we could make that >> uh some where where we could, you know, uh consult with our police chief and see what he thinks

095and take the appropriate action according to his recommendation. >> She she's a good person and and a very good police officer. It's uh but you know the same thing Michael people will become accustomed to seeing that cruiser there without a trooper in it. Um >> I got to tell you I'm I'm I'm guilt guilty as charged. Okay. I I >> No, don't confess to anything. I I No, no, no. I I perform a beautiful California stop, okay? And just cruise right through those stop signs pretty much. I I I I think that I'm telling >> we should we should ask the police if there's any utility to any of those stop signs. I know that there's one at an intersection, the one at the driveway. >> Yeah. I I mean, come on. Very questionable. >>

096Let us take Let us talk. >> So, we put a stop sign in your driveway. Now, you got to get out. >> Thank you for giving me your time. I have one other quick >> one other quick request that I I really wasn't not even going to talk about until the issue came up >> when you voted earlier on a um >> I'm timing your five minutes >> on a on a transfer of uh of license. Okay. For for a a property on Purchase Street. Um and I know the um request for the for the town department you send out comes back clean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go. I can tell you now that there are numerous accessibility violations, both federal and state, on that property. So, how I I was under the impression that,

097you know, compliance was required before you you you you go ahead and approve licenses and whatever. accessibility. You're dealing with whether or not the property itself has, you know, faced reconstruction or some other extensive rehab and then they're going to be held to accessibility standards as far as rebuilding. Um, I don't believe that transfer of a liquor license triggers that. M >> it may not uh but it could have it could have I'm I'm not criticizing it it could have been made a condition of the transfer that the building be well well but my bigger concern is when that form comes back to you no problems no problems there are problems >> there are there are no problems as it relates to >> that particular facility and the sale of propert. We can't we can't

098impose standards onto them. We can't say to them, you have to make that property fully accessible in order for you to transfer that liquor license. Um, frankly, they just, you know, any any lawyer representing them would just walk out the door and go directly to the APC. >> And it wouldn't for a store like that, it wouldn't be liquor. it it'd be like um deli meat or what or whatever, you know what I mean? Uh be every bit. >> It'd be everything in in the store that would be, you know, that would have to uh >> I understand that. I understand that, but it would be it would act as an incentive, if you will, okay, to make the property accessible. >> I I don't disagree as far as I mean, for the base of

099the customers and if anybody is going to stand up and deal with those issues, I always have. Yeah, that'd be a segment. >> I I don't think you can impose on that business owner that they have to now adapt the property when they don't have to um in order to deal with the liquor license because it's not a requirement under the liquor laws. >> Yeah. And if I may, in closing, I'm a little embarrassed because >> I am a trained community uh accessibility uh uh monitor. Okay. took training courses at Mass Office on Disability and I I meant to check with my guy, if you will, at MOD, >> present to him the situation and see if what his what his take on it was, >> but you know, could have, should have, would. Right.

100Anyway, uh I don't know what I'm going to do now is go check with him now and and and so he can tell me what what should have happened. >> Mhm. Okay. >> But anyway, >> I welcome you to raise it. I have no problem with that. I've taken up too much of your time already. Thank you again. >> All right, Michael. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> I wish everybody was cons as concerned as you are. >> Well, what I think is though, here's the other thing. I think I I said I was done, but and I and I am. I'm not going to even say it. >> You're like, Columbbo, one more. One more. >> Well, that form I would like to see that form. I know it goes to department

101heads. I would like to see it go uh the request go to Milford Commission on Disability for their input on on projects. As a matter of fact, in our bylaws, chapter um I want to say 27 section I want to say section six, but I'm not certain of that. Again, I should know these things, but I don't. Anyway, new projects, plans and requests are required to go to the Milford Commission on Disability for their input. Now, we have not received plans I think once on a new project. So maybe if there's something you can do to um I don't know, inspire I don't know u expedite uh the commission receiving complying with with with the bylaws. It's all I'm asking. I'm only asking that we comply with the bylaws. And and believe me, if if

102when I'm non-compliant with the bylaws, I want to be told so that I can take the necessary steps as best I can to to correct what I'm doing wrong. Town administrator usually keeps me in line. >> It's not easy. >> Only kidding. >> Well, Mikey, >> let's just say I tried. No, I'm I'm I'm all set up, Paul. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you, Michael. >> Thank you. >> Take care, Mike. >> Once again, thank you for your time. >> Stay healthy. I'll see you around. You as well. See you. >> See you in church. And we'll get back to you, Mike. On Hamilton, >> I had to tell to tell father that I was taking the summer off here because >> I go south, >> so I won't see him for a

103while. >> Do I'll tell him tomorrow. >> You're you're researching too much. >> Anyway, thank you again. >> Thank you. You're welcome, Mike. >> Excuse my back as I walk. Thank you much. Take care. Do we have any correspondence, gentlemen? >> I I don't have any, Mr. Chairman. >> Do not, Mr. Chairman. >> Nor do I, uh, Rick? >> No, sir. >> And we do not have an executive session this evening. So, if I could have a motion to adjourn. >> A motion to adjourn, Mr. Chair. >> And I gladly second that, Mr. Chairman. >> That is unanimous. And we thank you for tuning in. those of you uh who did so or those who will watch it later and we appreciate the people that attended tonight and uh presented us with information. Very good.

104>> Have a great August. Um we're folding it out and headed to school time. >> Exactly. Yeah, that's right. >> Another week or so. >> The buses to the attention. Good evening.

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