001[Music] Good evening. Welcome to the Milford Planning Board of August 12th, 2025. Uh we have a little uh small presentation for us. Uh Representative uh Murray. And >> thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, I appreciate you taking us out of order here, but uh, given the circumstances or the message we've had from the town planner, we want to make sure that he stays here while while we do this. So, uh, no. >> Don't go anywhere, Larry. You're you're you're a captive audience right now. So, as we understand it, this is the last meeting before Larry uh retires. So, uh, both, uh, uh, the select board and myself wanted to do something to recognize Larry for his years of service. And, um, it was 24 years ago, 2001, I was first elected to the select board. Reno
002Delusio had retired as town planner and we did the interviews for the new town planner. And I was sitting right where Chris was, and and I remember I think there were like three interviews. And you know, the first couple we went through and then this third guy comes up and the thing that I remember about him, he had the most badass pocket protector of anyone I've ever seen. And it was fully loaded with whatever engineers do with whatever. And I remember telling my colleagues at the time, forget about the resumes. That's our guy. And Larry, that's the that's the decision that we made. and I think it proved accurate. So, um, you know, Larry, uh, has, like I said, has spent 24 years as town planner and you know as well as I. Just great
003work that he's done on behalf of the town. Um, just very dedicated. Uh, very, very knowledgeable about the zoning bylaw. Knows it better than anyone that I know. U, certainly better than myself. And, um, he's been a tremendous resource for the town. um just a sense of fairness that he's had for everyone who's come before him. Uh you you've given a lot to the town, Larry. I can say myself personally and I'm I'm sure the uh select board as well, we and the planning board, we really appreciate your dedication and service. So, I drove to Boston today for you to get this citation. So, you better sit there and just listen to it and take it. This is from the House of Representatives. Be it hereby known to all that the Massachusetts House of Representatives
004offered sincerest congratulations to Larry L. Duncan in recognition of your retirement as town planner from the town of Milford following 24 years of dedicated, selfless, and highly knowledgeable service to the community. The entire membership extends its very best wishes and expresses the hope for future good fortune and continued success. I've dated this August 29th, 2025. This is signed by Ronald Mariano, Speaker of the House, and myself, State Representative, colleague, friend, and admirer Ryan Murray. Larry, we're going to miss you. [Applause] Larry, today all around town hall, everybody was trying to figure out how we were going to pull this off. Um, but it it's a true testament to the man you are that uh very quiet, very humble, just want to do a good job, don't want any recognition, you just want to do what's
005right for the community. And that, you know, shows exactly the type of person that you are. And every time I give one of these away to a longtime board member or a longtime employee of the town, I always say, just imagine how many select board members, how many planning board members, how many different board members that you've served with over the years. And you know, I I was just talking to State Representative Murray in the hall. you know, you're in a very tough position. Um, because you you only want to do what's right. And, you know, there were times where everybody wants to trying to do it their way, but you never lost your focus. You were always a gentleman. You're always kind. You always listened. You were always understanding. Um, but you never you
006never wavered, you know, because you always wanted what was best for the community, what was best for the the citizens of this community, which again is, as I said earlier, is a real testament to to who you are. You know, I over my span of being on the select board and my years on the school committee, I've watched you just, you know, very quietly walk around town town hall and just do your job and do a great job. And, uh, this community is going to miss you. They really truly are. Um, you know, you're uh you got a big set of shoes that someone's going to come in to fill and hopefully that person will be the same as you. You know, very kind, compassionate, you know, understand, you know, what's right for the community.
007And I think you can you can honestly say that it takes a little while to learn the Milford culture. You know, I've been here 40 years and I'm still learning it every day. Uh, it's unique. It's unique. But you know, Tom and Paul unfortunately couldn't be here this evening. They wanted to be here. They wanted to be remembered to you. They wanted to, you know, me to personally say thank you and uh for everything that you've done for the town. And so I have a citation as well from the board of selectmen or select board. The town of Milford, Massachusetts. It be known that the select board hereby offer their congratulations to Larry Duncan in recognition of your retirement after 24 years of dedicated service as a town planner. We are deeply grateful for your
008hard work, leadership, and dedication which has made a lasting impact and that's important, a lasting impact on our community. On behalf of the people of Milford, the select board extend their very best wishes and express the hope for future good fortune and continued success in all your endeavors. Given this 12th day of August, 2025, signed Thomas J. Laughlin, Esquire, Paul Mazak, Kelly, and Michael K. Walsh. Larry on behalf of the select board in the town of Milford. Thank you. >> And Mr. Chairman, if I could just indulge your committee just a little bit more, if we could get a photo with uh Larry. Uh maybe you could smile. >> He hasn't done it in 24 years. Now, >> let's let's grab a photo. >> Where would you like to have it? >> Right here is
009fine. >> Okay. All right. >> The board members >> with the board members sit here next to your dad. >> Stand here because you have a chair. >> Sit next to babe. >> Then you guys going to come in behind. >> Sure enough. For sure. Cuz otherwise you're not going to get the shot. >> Need a wide angle on me. >> Sorry guys. That's yours, Larry. >> Oh, that's right. >> That's yours. You want us to sit down? Oh, sit down. >> How's that? Okay. >> Yeah. Scoover like you like them. >> You got to hold them so they can see it in the picture. >> Well, that's what Yeah, I can't tell. You see it? >> Yeah. >> It's smoking. So you >> congratulations Larry >> Rick have some cake for you. That's always
010>> you want to say something. He wants to eat cake. >> You want to do it now? >> Maybe you'll be welld deserved. >> Oh, you want it for the Yeah, we'll do the other thing. We can do it after. >> Okay. >> Hey, bye. Thanks. Don't somebody tell me about all the private defense for 37 years. Those guys was vacation time for them. >> See you later. >> Okay. Uh we got the minutes of the last meeting. I'll make a motion to accept the meetings as written. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. We uh approve the minutes of the last meeting. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor? >> I I >> opposed. I'm going to abstain. >> That's three. Uh three in favor, one abstension. >> Abstain. >> He
011wasn't here. >> Wasn't here. >> Oh. >> Uh do you want to uh >> We have no 81ps. Oh, yes. Yeah. Pardon me. >> Yeah, you can you can take the place of the 81ps. >> Yeah. So, uh even though it's not on the agenda, I think it's appropriate that uh we uh introduce our new town planner. So, it's my honor to introduce Matthew Benoy. Uh Matt's got 18 years of public se public sector planning, easy for me to say, experience. Uh he's been town planner in Auburn, NICK, and most recently Douglas. Uh he's got a degree in regional planning from Westfield State. Uh there were 10 applicants, I believe. Joe was on the >> I don't know how many applicants we had. I just don't know how many. Yeah, I just had the other
012end. >> You uh we interviewed four candidates. Uh >> and they hired Matt anyway. So I I think he'll I think I think he'll be fine uh going forward. Uh we tried to do a month overlap with our uh position schedules so that he can uh begin to get accustomed to where all that stuff is in our office. Uh luckily he'll have Liz to fall back on going forward after the end of the month. But uh welcome to Matt and I think he'll do a great job. >> Thank you. >> Well, we welcome you here and we look forward to working with you. >> Yes, sir. Thank you very much. Okay, Larry, you are leaving your cell phone number, correct? >> Use a cell phone. >> I'll give it to you. It's just any good.
013>> He smiled on that one. >> Okay, we have a public hearing. Uh uh Larry, you want to read the notice? Uh please public hear the second. I just shuffled all my papers under the awards and got out of sync. All right. Milford Planning Board notice of public hearing on Tuesday, July 15th, 2025 in room 3 of Milford Town Hall, 52 Main Street. The Milford Planning Board will at the times designated conduct public hearings regarding the following. 7:02 p.m. Application to Darn Properties LLC, 7 Bad Nav, Milford, Mass for the Parking Reduction Special Permit uh for the property located at 206 East Main Street, Assessor's Map 32, lot 14B, and consisting of 3.4 acres, properties in an IB and IC zone. The full application and or maps of the above items are available for public
014inspection at the Office of Planning and Engineering, Town Hall, 52 Main Street, Milford, Mass. um during normal business hours. Uh this uh notice was published in the daily news on 71 and 78. Uh and obviously uh that was last month. So we have a written uh grant of extension until tonight's meeting. Uh so that the hearing uh has not been opened yet. This will be the first uh first opening of the hearing and the uh applicants uh representative is here. Uh what's your pleasure, Mr. Chairman? Would you like me to read? >> Let the let him do his presentation. Yes. >> All right. Take it, John. >> All right. Uh thank you all for the record. John Federico with Courier and Helman. Um so, uh we have a 206 East Main Street here. Um existing
015shopping plaza. um some oversight that we've had um regarding uh filing for a special permit um to do shared parking out here. Um so that is essentially what our uh goal is for tonight. Um due to the small nature of the site um we are only able to fit uh 88 total stalls out here and um I have provided uh the board with an updated uh parking table uh to kind of help walk through um what our uh plan of action is here. Uh so we have 12 units in total and uh if you're uh reading through the chart essentially I've provided the uh Milfordtown parking calculation for that particular use. Uh and then if seats or employees are applicable at all those numbers have been included. Um if not the total unit square footage
016has been included for there. Um any of the highlighted numbers are the controlling values for our parking generation. And uh in total uh with some rounding uh we're going to be looking at about 110 total required stalls. Uh due to the fact that we only have three uses out here um we will be seeking out a 10% reduction. Uh so that would bring our overall total down to approximately 99 with some rounding. Um, as of right now, there is uh these two units here that are currently being occupied by uh cafes andor um like breakfast type places. One of them is a doughnut shop if I'm not mistaken. Uh both of those businesses are going to be closing at 100 p.m. So essentially the 13 required spaces uh that are needed at each of those
017units after 1 p.m. those will be fully freed up. Um, and then starting at 3 PM, uh, there is unit uh, 8 here, which is a dance studio. Um, that's primarily for, um, students, um, after school type activities. So, they will be operating from 3:00 to 9:00 p.m. Uh, they're only going to be required based on total square footage, 12 spaces. So, essentially, we are seeking a reduction of the overall amount of spaces just based on hours of the businesses currently on site. Um, so right now with our required parking uh before 1 p.m., we're going to be looking at uh 98 uh total stalls with the 10% reduction, we're going to be at the 88 number that we will uh currently have on site. And then for anything after 1 p.m., essentially when that
018second business opens up and the first two close, um we're only going to be required uh 84 stalls with rounding. And then with the reduction we would be at 75 total stalls um that are required at that point. Uh so just based on this alone um we do believe the with the uh hours of operation in mind that the 10% reduction would be applicable here and um I can go into a further point on some outdoor seating that we have but um at least open it up to the board initially if there's any questions comments on uh how we're currently conducting this breakout. >> Mr. Chairman, I don't believe we can even entertain this. There there's nothing in our bylaw that's that says anything about hours of usage. >> Okay. >> The 10% that's that's
019what the 10% is for is for things like that. Not not to then take the 10% and then take the fact that we have certain uses. That's that's how you're getting the reduction. Um there's nothing in the bylaw that allows it. I I think that you know we can't even act on this. We don't have the right to do it even if we wanted to. And I don't want to to be totally honest. But besides that, I don't I don't think legally we could even do this. The the town has never given us the right to do this. >> Larry, you want to read your letter, >> please? Uh the applicant requests parking reduction special permit for the existing shopping plaza. Um this is to facilitate their original proposal that would convert two existing parking
020spaces into an outdoor seating area. Uh the plaza currently contains the following four distinguishable uses to my account. So the use categories would be restaurant, office, retail, and salon. So if you compare that, as long as I'm reading through there with John's uh chart, there are uh five restaurants. Well, anyway, the the restaurant's one use. What he's listing as the service uses would be the second use. The retail uh would be the third use and then the office would be the fourth use. So, they have four uses which triggers the potential for up to a 10%. So, that part uh is still in line with the with the rags. So anyway, uh so with four distinguishable uses, restaurant, office, retail, and salon, um thus meeting the special permit thresholds under subsection B3 for potentially up
021to 10% reduction by special permit. uh to be in zoning compliance, the plaza needs uh at least when I was doing these calcs, uh I determined the plaza needed 107 off- streetet spaces and that doesn't account for the 44 uh existing at that on that day outdoor seats that I had um witnessed on the plaza. Um but they do only have 88 spaces as John had mentioned. So just with that mix, it would require an 18% reduction just to bring the site into conformance without addressing any outdoor seating or eliminating the two spaces that are that are also being proposed. But given the number of distinguishable uses, the board's limited to the maximum 10% uh even if he did find in favor for a special permit, uh the applicant contends that those u alternate AM
022hours of of certain uses should be considered as sharing and therefore only count space requirements once instead of multiple times. So this alternative approach, because at the time there were only two businesses that had alternatives in the proposal, this alternative approach would artificially reduce the 107 required spaces down to 94. So with that number, it would require a 6% reduction to get to 88. So at least that combination in the proposal and the special permit granting authority uh would be in the board's range to consider a special permit in in that situation. So however if the two spaces were converted to outdoor seating as proposed uh the existing available parking would then be reduced to 86 spaces. Uh so they're kind of burning their parking candle at both ends. Also, the new outdoor seating itself
023would in turn require five additional off- streetet parking spaces, bringing the number of quote adjusted required spaces from 94 with that other calculation back up to 99. So, that number would require 13% again over the 10% max the board can even consider. Um, so I'd recommended it was continued. As it turned out, uh, you were missing, as you are tonight, you're missing a member. So, by opening the hearing tonight with Martha not present, she's not going to be able to participate in any further hearings um uh or vote on it in the future. So, you're going to need uh a unanimous vote of the four members that in that context, just um jumping out of sequence here, aside from the other comments, um my suggestion would be if um if there's a way forward at
024all or any other uh issues to be considered, I would think you would want to grant the board a continuence uh until the next meeting because if the hearing things closed tonight. >> All they can deal with is what's been presented thus far with the original app and with the new data you have or whatever you talk about tonight. >> I would think it would be preferable on you know for both parties to continue the hearing till your next meeting which is the second I believe of next month um to continue the conversation. But bearing that in mind, I can um >> Thank you. >> I can go through the rest of the the packet if you want to hear the other comments. >> I'd like to hear from before continuing any uh any comments
025from the other members of the board. >> I got I mean I've got a couple others with it. One, like as I said, I don't believe we can even act on it. Our bylaw doesn't provide for timing. one two um as far as we're concerned that's a restaurant with a certain thing. If if a different restaurant I mean this is not a stagnant thing and and different restaurant moves in those hours go out the door but it never comes back to us and then we don't have we have no control over it. >> So you know to to use that as an argument to me is is something that will never fly by me. It's it's not going to work. Um, and the other thing is looking at this site and asking for a reduction.
026Uh, as far as I'm concerned, we got burned once at the Stop and Shop Plaza when we have I don't know how many parking spots behind Stop and Shop and nobody in the world uses them. And the applicant who told us we'd make sure that all everybody that worked in those stores would go out back. They're in park. None of them do. None of them are even told to do it. And they're never used. And we've got a parking lot that that tends to be very crowded and in certain times of year people have a hard time finding it. We've got 10 12 spaces out back that you're counting that no one I'm sure has ever used in the life of this plaza. And I've gone into this plaza and the parking is tight at
027various points in time. And to then be asking for a 10% reduction is not something that I'm comfortable granting. So, I mean, we're, you know, I think we're putting a lot of stuff into a small plaza and we want to keep piling it in. And at some point in time, you got to meet the parking requirements and you barely met them before when you built it and you've you've added spaces now and now you're coming back and asking us because we have a possibility to to now reduce the amount of parking and I just think it it's not going to fly. >> Chris, >> yeah, to Joe's point, I was considering that same thing. What happens if if any one of these restaurants changes their hours or you know a new restaurant comes in and
028now they're uh you know they're they open at 6:00 in the morning and they run till 6:00 at night. So then the this whole shared parking consideration is no longer relevant. So with that now it it we go back to the original numbers as opposed to these in a sense revised numbers. So yeah and I don't think I don't think you were here with the shared park. I mean, the reason why we did the shared parking and granted it was exactly for these reasons because we re we recognized the fact that that people would have offsetting hours. So, you didn't need to max out every one of them. We can give a 10% but now it's like that's the reason why we did it and now we want to take advantage of it again and
029and and to me that that wasn't the reason why we did the the parking thing. You know, that that's already been taken into account. >> Joe, no, I don't have anything at this time. >> Okay. Uh I agree with Joe and uh and Chris Bell. This is a tight This is a tight spot to try to finagle around and get 10 10%. And with the with the thing, I I see no no sense in doing it. I just It's It's too tight. It's too tight a squad. You're trying to put 10 lbs on a 5 lb bag and it's just >> I didn't want to say that, babe, but that's what I was thinking. >> Isn't that's obliv? >> It's just it's >> so I can't see it. So, uh, >> um, I'm fine with
030doing a continuation. I'm not sure if in like the special permit, um, type of application if we can do like a withdraw without prejudice and come back to you guys with a a new plan um, after talking with the uh, owner some more of the property. Um, or if you want to go back to the back to the owner and see if there's some way out of this. I mean, I don't know it, but I'm I'm not gonna >> I'm not going to say we have to shut it off tonight. I would say to withdraw it without prejudice is and then if if they get a denial then they can't bring it back for two years. So if you withdraw it >> if he if he just continues it then he can withdraw it >>
031if he wants. >> He can always withdraw it later. >> That's what the owner >> Yeah. Just ask for the continuance. If if the owner says no, withdraw it because we're not ready with the amount of changes that we'd need or if you can come back in >> sure >> a month and say well this is what we're going to do and this is how we think based on what the board has just said trying to meet those requirements. That's fine. But >> yeah, because the the numbers game literally uh and one of the scenarios I mentioned in my staff report was that if you buy into the overlapping hours concept, which I think is questionable, but if you bought into that, the numbers work out, what did I say? You you'd still need a
0326% reduction just to do that. And that's getting rid of all the outdoor seating period. >> Uh so that would that would get you down to whatever I said what 94 uh which would be the adjusted total required if you bought into the idea of the shared parking but that's only that's only sharing two uses. The current proposal tonight is sharing three which is totally >> I know I I I I I don't know that there's a way to get to an end. I'm just I'm just giving them the opportunity to to look at it again, but I I don't see one off the top of my head. >> We can continue back to your client and again express the client's >> the thoughts of the board. >> No, nope. That's one of the reasons
033why I didn't want to come in and at least open it, get some board feedback. >> Sure. >> And the fact that you need a unanimous >> unanimous vote because Yeah. Martha's not here. So, >> okay. >> You need to sign the >> grant of continuence, >> right? to uh was it September 2nd? I believe >> unless you want to do it later, but I'm not sure. >> I'm more than happy to sign off on that now. >> All right. >> Make a motion we continue to September 2nd. >> Second. >> Moved and seconded. We continue the public hearing till September 2nd. Any further discussion? Second. >> Hearing none. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Unanimous of four. Great. >> Thank you. >> See you. >> Okay. Next we've got >> uh Mount
034Pleasant to say the bond reduction busy >> bond release rather work. >> Thanks you too. >> Yes. >> I'm David. Nice to meet you. >> Nice to meet you. >> Name. >> Oh, I I never remember to bring my plaque. >> I was thinking I It's got to be Liz. Hi. Nice to meet you all. Uh, I'm David Pine Jr. I want to assure everyone I'm not as loud as my father is. Um, but I am here for Kevin Lobas here tonight. So, uh, nice to meet you. I'm representing him over Mount Pleasant. Uh, I know this was accepted by the town in the last springtown meeting. Um, everything is done except one, uh, thing that we are still working on is the sewer department had asked for a few kind of updates to the
035plan. Uh, we did update those. uh that John uh my nin was on vacation and then like he just got back on Monday. Uh I met with him today. We did add I can show you kind of what we did here. We got some plans. We added what he wanted to get done. Um >> sorry. >> That's all right. >> See, you're already going too long here. >> Well, he's not going too long because I was going to recommend that they continue it. >> Oh, they don't have it done. Oh, okay. So, >> so this is the first time you're seeing it? >> Yes. >> Oh, yeah. I'd recommend be continued till the next meeting. >> Yeah. I was I was hoping if there was a way if John signs off in the next like
036week or two, we could possibly, you know, then get the kind of bond uh bond release then uh just because the next meeting is until September. So, John did look it over. He just wanted some additional labels added to what we had. But the plan itself will not change kind of as it is. Maybe if we could possibly give it, you know, and control John Liz. I don't know if that's a possibility. just so we can get the kind of bond release done in the next week or two. >> That's all you had was uh was comments on this. >> That is absolutely it. And I sent the asbuilt plan and all of the information to all of the relevant departments, police, fire, um water department, everybody. And that was when the sewer looked at
037the plan and and just had some, you know, relatively minor. Yeah, we were able to turn it around within the day and then we just saw him today and and he just wanted to make sure that we kind of labeled uh the new lines we had put in. So it shouldn't honestly by I think by Thursday or Friday as you know John willing it should be all set to go. Uh we would just prefer you know to kind of get that bond release moving as fast as possible. >> Does the sewer department need to vote on this or is it just John that needs to to check off that this is good to go? I mean, yes, I would say this is even more of a courtesy on your behalf than an actual requirement. >>
038So, you know, I think it I guess I would agree that it would be appropriate if you felt comfortable doing so to grant it subject to um rece to for me or Larry receiving um confirmation from sewer department. department >> which >> or Larry or Matt >> somebody. >> Yeah, that's right. Matt's Matt is on payroll >> which we did meet with John today. He did did like what we did. He just if you notice those lines on the highlighted plan those are written. He just wants the labels put in which you know we 100% respect that and want to do that. So, we were just hoping that the board would, you know, also give us permission to >> Yeah, it just be nice to have these things ahead of time instead of >> motion
039that we uh meeting >> that we release the bond subject to uh uh final confirmation from the sewer board that they uh that the plans I submitted are will be acceptable. I mean, there's no reason to wait at that point. um they they can we can release at that point because they're the ones that are responsible. Larry and Liz are the ones that are responsible for the bond to begin with. So, it's not like it's going anywhere till then. >> I'll second that. >> But moved and seconded that we uh release the uh bond upon uh receiving uh uh the information from the sewer department. Uh any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All those in favor? I >> I unanimous of four. >> Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. >> You guys I
040just want to thank you. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Next we have sew uh street discontinuation uh for portions of whale street and McGill Lane. >> Is anybody here? >> Yes, but he doesn't need to speak. >> Yeah. At the >> Okay. At the regular meeting of 72825, select board voted to refer this request uh from the gun club uh to the planning board for your review and comment. Uh the club wishes to secure access to their property by limiting the length of public streets in the immediate vicinity of their facility. My suggestion is that you recommend the select board place an appropriate warrant article on the upcoming fall town meeting warrant. Uh the planning board will follow up with a specific recommendation regarding the article to town meeting once the formal language is established. U
041I've uh done a draft u at least placeholder article so that there's sufficient language to define what an article would be doing whether this language exactly stays that way or not at least it reserves a spot for them uh on the warrant. Uh I've given this to the town administrator this morning. So it's already u in his file as a placeholder. So my recommendation is that uh uh is that you forward the uh recommendation to select board to put it on the warrant. >> Yeah, I'm very familiar with the area up there and >> yeah, I mean I think they own they own on both sides of McGill Lane at that area. So I don't Yeah. >> Yep. So there no other butters involved. And I met with both the uh fire department and highway
042department about this before it got this far. So >> Yeah. The only thing that uh well street goes to that portion is uh cell tower now anyway. So right >> uh what's the pleasure of the board? Uh, I uh make a recommendation we put that we uh recommend that the select board place this on the warrant for the upcoming fall town meeting. >> I'll second that. >> Moved and seconded. Uh we uh have the select board put this on the fall uh as a warrant on the warrant for the fall town meeting. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor? I I >> opposed. >> Unanimous of four. Thank you. Uh okay. Uh Nicolver and uh 17 Jackson Court. Uh >> yeah. Well, it's pretty straightforward. It's >> okay. >> Jackson Street, isn't it?
043>> The applicant requests a variance to allow for the construction of an ADU on the subject property. Specifically, the proposal is to construct a 26 by 34 U structure on lot 153. U the fact that they want to do it as an ADU is irrelevant to the variance request. Um lot 153 of the merge lots that in combination constitute the subject property. Due to the shape of the lot, the proposed uh unit is to be located 17 ft from Jackson Court property line. However, a 25 ft front yard setback is required in the RA zoning district. Hence this variance application. The three merge lots total uh little over 19,000 square ft in the area but are overly irregular in shape abuing the southerntherly end of Jackson Court in fact entirely surrounding the end of Jackson
044Court. The single family dwelling on lot totals a little over 3,000 square feet of floor area. So I recommend a favorable report be forwarded to the ZBA. uh their applications included with some uh uh additional explanation. The last couple sheets show site plan uh of the Jackson Street layout with the proposed lot location. There's a blowup uh showing the uh building location. It's a little bit more readable. Show how close uh the street is and how narrow that section of the lot is. And then there's an aerial on the last sheet just to orient you to where all this stuff is located in the neighborhood. >> Thank you, Larry. What's the f pleasure of the board? Are any questions from the board? >> No, I know the area pretty well. I've got to shut off
045sprinklers down there a few times. I make a motion we send a favorable recommendation to the ZBA. >> I'll second that. >> Moved and seconded we send a favorable recommendation to the ZBA. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor I oppose. Unanimous. >> Thank you. >> Okay. We got moving along. >> We got a variance referral for 100 Midway Street. >> Yeah. The applicant requests a variance to allow for the creation of a building lot from the previous lease parcel configuration that currently cons constitutes lot 95C. Specifically, the proposal is to stab establish a separate lot to accommodate the sale by the Roman Catholic Bishop of Worcester of the Bank building property which is currently situated on a land lease parcel at 100 Medway Street. The lease parcel was established from the larger
046Sacred Heart Cemetery property back in 1985. Uh to align the property boundaries appropriately with the actual physical location of the developed bank site, uh the IB zoning district lot configuration variances will be required. Hence this application uh the proposed lot frontage is 194 where 230 ft's required in this district. Uh the proposed width is 20626 uh 250 is required in this district. I recommend a favorable report be forwarded to the ZVA. There are a couple of maps as the last few sheets in the packet. Um the next to the last sheet highlights where the new uh lot split line will be and obviously the aerial shows the current configuration of things. Uh so the the parcel actually you know extends over into the cemetery uh beyond their east driveway even. Uh, one of the things
047I did notice and I'll have to call Ernie um is that it appears the application uh had um inverted the uh frontage and width requirements and I believe what I reported are the accurate uh dimensions because I took them from the plan and checked the plan. Anyway, I recommend favorable. It's the pleasure of the board. I didn't realize that was a land lease possible. >> Yeah, I was surprised they did it that way, but back then I'm surprised. I thought they had sold all that. >> Not yet. But the arch dasis had wanted to do it. Uh because I think they could have done the lease, but anyway. So yeah, it's given the fact that it's been developed this way all this time, it doesn't seem like it's >> make a uh make a motion
048that we send a favorable to the ZBA. >> I second that. >> Been moved and seconded. Do we send a favorable recommendation to the ZBA? Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor? >> Opposed? Unanimous applause. >> Moving right along. Moving on, we have uh ZBA uh for 336 Main Street. >> The applicant requests a special permit approval to establish used motor vehicle sales and uh repair use on the subject property. Uh vehicle related uses require special permit from the CBA and the CB district. Specifically, the applicant proposes a sale and repair of used cars. The maintenance repair of small construction machinery and equipment is also being opposed proposed. Uh the existing garage and repair area will be retained. Uh the off- streetet parking requirements uh cannot be determined until a specific outdoor display
049area and number of used cars for sale are proposed which hopefully by the time they get through ZBA they'll figure that out. Uh the existing parking areas are to be paved and restriped as noted on the site plan. There are no additions proposed to the structure. Uh however, no interior floor plan is has been submitted uh at least thus far. Uh I recommend favorable report be forwarded to the ZBA subject to the applicant providing a floor plan to specify and specifying the outdoor display area and number of used cars for sale on the property. An amended site plan will definitely be required from the planning board subsequent to any special permit approval. The uh last couple sheets show uh portions of the site plan, a blow up of uh of the uh site plan. There's
050>> this is the old replacement auto part. >> Yeah, it was an auto dealership, but I remember long enough. >> Yeah, that >> I don't know if I want to date myself that far. Yeah, I know. I was going to say it's probably before your time. >> That was that was a Dodge that was a Dodge dealership. But that but that was part of the problem for them in terms of any prior nonconformity because that's long gone. >> So they're trying to go through the process now and get it all straightened out. They've got some issues to deal with the encroachments and stuff, but they'll deal with that later. Um and there's the final sheet in your packet. Uh I think if I can get to that page, yeah, was the uh aerial of the
051current situation. So, uh, you'll be seeing a site plan if it gets through the ZBA. So, recommend a favorable report. >> I have questions. >> At least comment. Um, yeah, I went by the property today and I know it's going to come back to site plan. Um, I guess a few concerns would be it's they're looking to do auto sales, auto repair, and then also small equipment. seems like I'm concerned with a lot of items being out front for sale or on display or all that and just kind of not looking presentable. I know that's a little bit above and beyond our board, but just being that it's on Main Street, I have those concerns cuz the building itself driving by today definitely it's going to need some some work. >> Well, they're going to
052have to go before site plan, right? We're going to have to they're going to have to put it some kind of a landscape. Uh >> Exactly. So, I know that they still have that. I'm just making >> those points publicly as I've gone by. And then the other concern is is out back being a gravel lot. You know, if you look at >> the plans right now, they're showing it as parking. There's parking kind of line parking spots, but it is all gravel. Uh there are a couple broken down vehicles out there already which of of concern that if it's if there are any type of automotive fluids already leaking into the ground and gravel there we know that that's just not uh uh good practice or being a good neighbor in that area. So
053again making those points I'm a little bit concerned again for the usage and and and kind of sending a favorable because of that. uh and I hope that the ZBA kind of you know tightens up on their their aspects and se sees these same items and again will come back to us and we can have this discussion further too. >> It's our really it'll be us. I mean all they're doing you know >> is granting the very they they grant the varian >> special permit right we'll take care of the the the site plan I'm sure >> I'm sure we're going to >> they'll have to pave it >> Mr. So definitely has to be paved. >> So you could you could forward make it favorable if that's uh uh your position subject to the
054parking lot being paved and striped appropriately and they submit a formal site plan that complain >> make it accord to with a site plan approval from the planet. >> Mr. Sure. Um, so having the CBA include it in the special permit requiring for me it would be the back parking lot being paved is a legally stronger >> way to make sure that they pave it, >> right? >> Um, it's it's a lot harder for them to get around it, >> right? by saying if we were to send a favorable with the conditions of >> if you send this favorable with the conditions and then and they include that con the the condition at least for the um >> for the paved parking area then it's it's just it's a >> it's not a big difference
055but it legally it will help understand >> he's going to have a tough time if it's not paved anyways because it's not going to be handicapped accessible There's lots on that lot that I was looking at. That's just >> No, but I'm just saying and I mean we had the same thing when we did uh I mean in terms of of paving areas u uh landscape supply down on Dill Street and they finally acquiesced to doing that because I said well how you going to how are you going to handle handicapped accessibility >> paving in the front? >> I would assume that's where they're going to display cars I would think. Well, I know, but if if they can get away with not paving the back by putting the handicap accessible in the front, I'm
056just >> No, it's way either way either way is going to be it's going to come before us, >> right? >> And we're going to you can make the recommendation that way, Chris, if you want that. >> Yeah. So, yeah. um like to make a motion to send a favorable recommendation for 336 Main Street for their uh special permit with the conditions that they uh pave the real lot >> and site >> and file. Yes, file for site. Thank you. >> Yeah, second. >> Second. It's moved and seconded. We save a f send a favorable recommendation. Joe seconded uh to the zoning board. with the Chris's uh recommendations. Any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All those in favor I >> opposed the floor. Larry, go ahead. Can you stop? >> No. >> Close it and
057do it off camera. >> Yeah, we can. >> Set the schedule for >> September. Yes. So, we're looking at September 2nd and the 16th. >> Sure. >> Yep. Yep. >> And >> those dates work. >> Yes. >> What? >> September 2nd. September 16th for the next two meetings. >> Okay. >> Meeting sir. >> Anything else? >> No, sir. Well, welcome. >> Thank you. >> Welcome. And uh your first half half a meeting. How's that? >> Good. >> And uh we look forward to working with you. So, >> thank you. >> Again, we're we're all uh easy to re easy to reach talk. >> Sounds good. >> And any questions you have or comments you'd like to get from us, uh I'm sure >> Thank you. >> There' be no problem at all. >> Thank you.
058>> Thank to the meeting. >> I'll second that. moved and seconded to close the meeting. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor? >> I >> opposed. Unanimous of four. Good evening and thank you.