001[Music] good evening it's the Milford planning board of Tuesday March 4th uh first thought of a business is the minutes of the last meeting motion to accept second we moved in second to accept the minutes of the last meeting any further discussion there are none all those in favor hi hi fos unanimous of five thank you we have 181p the same 359 361 purchase yep there were two variances as it turns out granted on the two lots involved both were granted the decisions are attached in your packet uh and the plan's endorsable as submitted the only only thing that hasn't worked out is um one marker short as it turns out so some somebody's going to have to [Music] share it's endorsable as submitted okay we all have to sign this is a l yeah
002well Larry can't sign anymore yeah three of you three or four of you at least his signature wasn't isn't clear enough for them to legible enough it's not consistent enough depending on who you get as a registry it's unbelievable what they'll turn away but then it's totally fine okay that a motion any we need to any further discussion on this yeah I wanted to know who's going to check to see if the boxwood uh plants are going to be alive that are in the zoning decision building official really how long does he have to check that for those box was have to be Perpetual kept alive those under Perpetual care move to end the 81p plan for 359 Purchase Street second we moov the second we keep endorsed the uh 81 ft plan for uh
003359 359 361 for Street uh any further discussion here in none all those in favor all opposed unanimous of five here the pen yes I know going to wait a second while they sign next is that is we have uh amended site plan for two 269 271 Main Street Yep this is a amended site plan uh the applicants requesting approval to establish a used uh motor vehicle Sal use on the property uh the zba granted a required special permit at their meeting on 1 1925 the uh recorded decisions attached in your packet uh there are a few conditions uh but it appears they've been indicated on the plan uh specifically the applicant proposes the outdoor display of no more than six used cars for sale at any one time uh the existing garage slrep area
004will contain one small office and two service Bays uh the off street parking requirements appear to be met and the existing parking area uh is to be restriped as noted on the plan there are no additions proposed to the structure and the existing hair salon is to remain in the building that recommend approval subject to relevant agency comments um in the packet after the decision uh fire chief um had no comments the uh Highway surveyor uh found it satisfactory water department uh Sono conflicts and I think that was the last one we [Applause] got John's here to you have questions I assume you can answer questions so just for the record um Larry did have one comment about freestanding sign so we did have that add it the plan um that's the large copy that's
005in front of you folks um I did bring um five um copies and one [Music] original all right I can R run it through any questions from the board Mr chair just couple quick questions um obviously yeah the freestanding sign will meet Town bylaws yep and then I know uh the one of the other we got to make sure those plants used cars sales that came in the past we we said that those spots should be either striped or designated to show that they were um I guess are there any designations to show that those uh six spots are designated we don't have anything other than what's being shown on the site plan for it but if you wanted to um like have like an extra stripe or something put in to make them like
006a box or something um so no signage or anything um but the applicant Marcelo is here with us tonight um we can obviously discuss anything here or if we just like to condition anything we can um tack that on at that point um Marcelo would you have any preference on signage or any like striping on the ground for something like that and I guess I looked to to my fellow board members I know like you said we did that for a past uh applicant um and we so it's not necessarily like I said a bylaw but it was more of a precedent that we kind of set forward at manini yeah yeah so again I just we didine around I want to be consistent with our I think it's extremely helpful to have it done
007designated separately for zoning enforcement and um and just you know enforcing how many it's okay for a small lot but you get a Big Lot Big Lot or something that's why we always had the customer we always had the customer uh pocket spaces signed rather than yeah but in this case it's kind of the other way around yeah but I think I think on the on the last one is a a a fat dashed line around the area uh so that everybody can tell it was right on the plan and I think it was on the plan mostly the F but anyway and we asked for that that's why you definitely asked for something either signage or so again just from a matter of consistency that would be the one uh something I'm the owner
008of the property we do have spots that will be designated I don't know if they were um I think they were specifically worked out the six designated spots exactly I just don't know if they were labeled upon the plan they labeled on the plan it's what we're talking about is permanently out in the out at the site having some differentiation between those spots because then I'll have signs for myself as well for the salon just so that I don't have people parking in his spots and that he doesn't have the same for mine okay uh anything else if the if the owner wants to do that and we want to approve it this way why don't we do it as spots to be designated in the field or at on the site as um either
009is is hatched or as or as otherwise selected by signed by the owner or whatever designated as either for the auto through signage or through hat yep yeah sounds like a motion to me for the for okay for the for the auto seals locations auts I got a question too sure uh if you're coming in you're going left to go around to the other pocket space there's an area there that's not paved at all uh in the uh back corner in the back yeah if you're coming out directly from the uh from the garage door if you're coming out straight okay the pavement only goes so far then the you got no pavement and then it's it's a way to get into the two parking spaces there so that should be paved that whole area
010should be paved and I realize I don't want to hold don't want to hold it up because it's the time of year it is but well you got 24 ft there though babe I mean it's wide enough yeah according to this yeah it's wide enough but it's not paved yeah there's pavement there I assume the dash line is the edge of pavement that's what we do have shown for edge of pavement and almost about 25 ft to the there I just drove over it and that's not pavement there there's no pavement here there's no pavement here right where the where the see where the granite curbing ends yep that area that area there right after the granite curbing towards the back there's no pavement if it is it's it isn't worth anything anyway I I
011just drove over 15 minutes ago 20 minutes ago yeah the pavement should be as per was shown here I mean if we need to upgrade the pavment yeah if the payment needs to be upgraded or whatever then yeah as long as it follows what's here I have a problem with it yeah can we require that they resurface it so that it's nice solid oh re don't have to resurface the whole but just those areas repair at least repair that area if they get it stock out so I didn't see what it was why why don't we have Liz go out I mean we can approve it based on based on them having pavement as per what shown on the plans and then Liz can go out and check it and if it needs to be
012upgraded it can be upgraded okay pavement to be upgraded as determined by the town engineer yep would there be any specific requirements for um the pavement or check with the town engineer be fair you will be fair right I'll just I'll just tell what's out there too I mean it's going to be a decision when you're out there I don't think as long as there's enough pavement that it holds together it's fine yeah so I'll hold off on signing to my law until Liz verifies what's up with that they need to do we have to make them come back made a motion um yeah did you make somebody make the motion I took I believe it was what Chris said and okay acted as if it were a motion and I seconded it okay and
013then we're going to add on it should be subject to the town Engineers review of the pavement and upgrades as as she determines um Can can we do are you guys okay with um them having occupancy or whatever before the pavement yeah because you have to yeah yeah actually this time of year AB I just wanted to make sure no I don't want to hold anybody up by by no means but uh it's something that's it's got to be looked into for sure yep good catch babe okay moved I seconded you second yeah with subject to the who who Moved who second I'll move to um approve the amended s plan for 269 271 Main Street um with the provisions of of designating the six spaces and and also based on the input from the
014town engineer on the questionable paved area Okay second we moved in second and any further discussion hearing none all those in favor oppose unanimous of five moving right along now we going uh 100 Central Street uh and we go through some [Music] paper all right amended site plan 100 Central Street uh the applicant requests an amended site plan approval to authorize a change of use on the subject property the site is the former catering business located at the northwest corner of Central Street in brag slip uh in 2020 the planning board approved a change of use for the second floor of the building to office and warehousing space for an energy Consulting and auditing firm that periodically conducts contractor training sessions uh occupancy of the basement and first floor of the building were then only
015vaguely noted as warehouse and officewarehouse respectively on the floor plans uh there are only 11 total parking spaces provided on the site uh the current proposed use of the basement is a distribution facility for optical Mark recognition screen printing products and is consistent with the previously approved use for the basement area uh the addition of the indoor Recreation skateboard park area within the same space is the focus is the primary focus to this application without a clearer description of how this proposed additional use will function is difficult to determine uh parking compliance so recommend amended site plan be approved subject to relevant agency comments but only if above noted issues can be adequately addressed and the property owner submits a valid updated site plan which we still haven't seen the uh fire department U as
016you see in the packet U uh had two questions so will any obstructions or obstacles be placed uh to the rooms where skating is available such as ramps or structures and will any walls or partitions be added um changes to the building may affect the fire protection systems uh uh to my knowledge uh T hasn't gotten a response um and there's uh and there was uh the applicant's email responding to that um so it talks about adding the ramps and some of that some of the graphics are contained in the packet um then John Erikson had tried to reach out uh on his email uh saying do the people running this skate park know that this is a change of use under the building code and they'll need to get a certificate of occupancy for
017that use uh so I don't know where that stands yet um the water department uh sees no conflict and that was the last uh comment I got so I think David's here um if you have questions just really quick to address the uh email communication we did uh communicate both of the fire department and John Ericson I think originally this um where it talked about like the proposed use in the photos wasn't submitted uh to the fire department we had sent it to them and then John Ericson we went back and forth just discussing uh that yeah we do understand you know the the planning board process cery process and I assured them that we're not doing any construction down there just placing these ramps um you know in in the building and the skate
018area is is just over 500 square ft so don't think like a gigantic skate park um what I had told John Ericson is you know on average we'll probably have three or four people uh included with John uh skating there it could be a little bit more cuz be a little bit less um I don't know how often you guys drive by 100 Central Street the parking lot's basically empty 90% of the time there's one warehouse worker during the day but so we really don't have much Demand on the parking as of now um yeah any questions is the site accessible handicap accessible uh no the basement's not not handicap accessible yeah I mean no wouldn't for skate park is not really a handicap activity the building in have you talked to the building inspector
019about that and as how he is going to rule on that it's open to the public cuz that yeah we had the uh Sports courts um that was by membership by membership yeah but he that he had to go only did because that was by membership but it wasn't open to the public but he had to go through through the whole he had to go CLI options right or the waivers I should say he had to go before the Boston Boston board that's really for that's something you you talking about the aab yes ad ad you you you need to check before you go too far with this I have no idea I mean this is regardless of whether it's only skaters there if there's you know somebody wanted to go and watch it's open
020to the public they can't do that I don't know how the building inspector is going to yeah John was saying similar you'd actually have to have a membership and like sign up and pay you have to go through you have to go through yeah and prove to them that how you going to do it so I I wouldn't go I wouldn't go too far without going down that path and straightening that out I would reach out to the owner to that new uh Sports Facility by Planet Fitness and they might be able to guide you what he did but I know that there definitely we had letters of waiver that we from aab and aab for that very reason I think it's going to be important the pleasure of the board I guess a couple
021other questions as as you're moving along with it you know I think it's a great idea for the for the space that if it's being unused uh especially during the winter time and I know that you know there looking to get a sck skate park here in Milford also which I think is a great idea um my only question maybe look over to you Larry is something like this which would be considered more of a recreation or or sporting does that conform to that area in in the bylaw just to ensure that or do they need to go through to get a special permit based on the location and kind of what it's being used for no this is uh this is still as it turns out in an IA Zone uh let's see I
022believe that's right okay just want to make sure on that and that's based on what kind of what John was saying with the change of occupancy uh occupancy from the commissioner commercial recreation uh indoor uh is allowed outdoor isn't okay but indoor is so yeah all right good per just want to make sure on that so the only other thing I could see if there's a concern is uh continue it to I don't I don't know that it changes anything that we're do I'm I'm trying to put that out to the applicant saying you know you don't want to spend any more money till you straighten out those issues but I don't I don't think it's they're obviously not going to do anything no one's putting an elevator in here to get in if they
023if they tell them to do that for for for people so I I I don't see why we couldn't approve it I don't I don't or I guess you could approve it and they could still deny it would make any difference well they're going to need a CO from the building official who right doing the a stuff so I just I I I'm just putting it out there so they're aware of the issues I appreciate that I wouldn't I didn't think that I mean we went to the aab for the second floor clear result the contractors and they approved that you know because these are like but they yeah HVAC workers you know I you don't again it's not our call and and until you have that piece of paper in your hand you're not
024guaranteed of anything so it's it's you'd rather be spending the money there than later on or having somebody after the fact say hey I wanted to go down there and you didn't provide for Access and my kid skating or something yeah one one other thing is regarding parking yeah I don't really foresee parking being um being utilized I would say that probably most of the clientele there is going to you come in and come out on skateboards based on the the age group um of that so that that part of it although there is some questions there I'm willing to kind of uh move forward without any you know specific information and usage information on the paring spot myself yeah I don't think the space is big enough to think that there's going to be
025even if there were that that you're going to pack enough people into that kind of space to be able to plus the after it's more of like an after hour usage or like three :30 to to 7:30 or whatever yeah and the kids not going to drive yeah all right is that a motion M might drop them off but that's still parking oh I couldn't I couldn't tell make a motion we approve the amended site plan for 100 Central Street second we move the second we approve the amended site plan for 100 Central Street any further discussion hearing none all those in favor V unanimous of five thank you thank you very much okay next you got 110 sou Main Street yes is an amended site plan um Ren advisor LLC the applicant requests amended
026site plan approval to relocate four electric charging stations uh that were previously approved on the subject property in 2023 uh zoning bylaw has since been amended uh in May of 2024 to provide for electric vehicle charging stations and existing parking lots under Section 3.4. 7.2 of the zoning bylaw this new section uh provides uh and I quoted in the report for EV charging stations may be installed in existing parking lots provided the total number of existing parking spaces complies with the off street parking requirements uh and the number of EV charging stations not exceed 10% of the of the total uh so in that regard uh it's in compliance uh so it generally meets the zoning Provisions however the drawing submitted is not an engineered site plan it does not accurately locate the property lines
027the street rideway lines on the plan uh on a plan that is drawn to scale a detail of the charging stations and other items shown on the sketch aerial that was submitted should all be indicated on a new site plan and engineered plan so I recommend approval uh subject to all the relevant departmental comments and subject to having an actual site plan being provided uh fire department um uh primary comment was that the new equipment should have adequate vehicle protection uh the drawing appears to show Ballers but the prints very small on the on the submitt again having an accurate plan that shows of property lines is going to help uh in this regard as well I if I could say something well let me finish reading these sorry okay uh the uh water department
028uh had no conflict and I thought we got one from Highway but I don't see it uh so I guess I guess that was that so um is John right yes yeah John's here can answer question um I just wanted to say I dropped off uh a roll of prints I had 10 of the large sheets the blowups for everything I dropped it off at the office on Friday yeah but it's the same aerial that's fuzzy and it's not a sight this is what he wants this was what was I apologize I didn't find it until today or I didn't look for it until today but this was what was submitted with the last one okay this is shows the the lot with the um with the property lines and the reason that he's specifically
029looking for something like this is because there is a 5 foot wide Highway easement around here and it looks like the transformer or something is going to be in that easement so you can't have it in that easement right okay so which is why it's a good idea to have an engineered site plan yeah um you can have you can have this um and then you can either contact did g& do that one g& did yeah that's what I thought [Applause] that way yeah they can just switch the spaces and you'll be so that was a 2023 plan right yeah yeah I don't have I don't have any issues with the change but I think we should you know we should see the plan and make sure one see a plan that actually has a
030Transformer not in the highway EAS and also the addressing of the fire chiefs comments in terms of protection of the equipment I I I make a motion that we continue to 18th yeah well that's the next meeting so I'm just wondering whether g& can get it done by that time that's what I'm going literally I know there is a m yeah can be done that's the 18th motion we continue till the till our next meeting March 18th second we don't have uh we had a joint meeting that day yep they can be yeah we can bring them on first there's already well there's already some other items okay so so they can all wait until until the joint meetings done okay otherwise they're looking they're not going to dig and put anything in so hold
031it's not holding anything up no no we still we're going to have to wait for National Grid to I'm going wa lat you get the approvals and maybe we'll get it in the ground by October have by next month yeah if I'm lucky okay a project that was installed nine months ago and they haven't come to turn the power on everything's done and they haven't even flipped the switch so let hurry up and wait well you can do it till the March 4th meeting and then we had a motion to continue it I seconded second moved and seconded to continue through March 18th okay uh any further discussion there none all those in favor opposed and five thank you great thank you okay got a zba special peryam for 284 West Street yep I just
032buried it on um this is for T-man Properties LLC of the long awaited application for special permit the appli request special permit approval uh to establish a contractor's yard use on the subject property contractor's yard uses require special permit from the zba and the CC District in which the property's located uh specifically the applicant proposes the Redevelopment of the site of the former Tradesman Tavern that was raised after being destroyed by fire in 2021 uh the proposal is to construct a 50 by 95 ft warehouse and office building with Associated parking on the subject property the driveway and access along the west Street Route 140 Frontage uh reflect the previously approved configuration Easy Bar not that one this results in only one driveway with the restoration of the remaining Frontage to be a curbed landscape
033buffer uh between the front parking lot in the street adequate off street parking is provided all other Zing requirements appear to be met save for the issuance of the special permit therefore I recommend a favorable report before to the zba the U site plan is attached but I also have a um 11 by17 print that's a little bit easier to read uh but we've been waiting for this for what two years at least uh so they're used to running the site and I'd recommend favorable report don't say anything I'm not saying anything it's just easier to read just can't resist thank you [Applause] won't even let you say your name no can you still get the bud wise slows the water down before it gets into the so much of the site layout was previously
034approved on the proposed Redevelopment of the Tradesman uh but that didn't happen uh so uh it's from a site plan and drainage and development standpoint it's it's well on its way to compliance already so question when you start with these new structures uh warehouse and office um that's this is on wellwater down in that area if I recall uh sprinkler systems and how are they required and how are they fed it's going to be 75 00 sare ft yeah it's not big enough Goa thank you conveniently I ask question met the magic number yep and that was one of the more recent zoning amendments to the CC Zone was to specifically allow for contractor's yards and this was one of the sites that was uh it was intended to benefit was it just ask where
035the sewer ends I think it must go must be at Asylum Street and then goes up Asylum yeah I on 140 no stops at uh uh Hopedale Street Hopedale Street that's why there's yeah excuse me duer I was surprised everything else is fed from F pwn back I know that I know I brought this up cuz I was surprised that there was a septic system I would have thought there'd be sewer along this road the sep the septic system is in the ground and it was previously approved no no water okay and Larry I'm sorry I didn't he the septic system is already in the ground it's showing on the plan it was previously approved when the fa was going they're going to come back for site plan review anyway right yeah so yeah just
036need a favorable just c yeah I understand motion we send a favorable to the zba second we moved in second and we send a favorable recommendation to the zoning board any further discussion hearing none all those in favor I opposed unanimous app thanks that see it works much better motion of the evening it down that would be mean motion to adjourn second moved in second we adjourn any further discussion here and none all those in favor night