001John Joseph? Present. Dr. Deanne Collins? Dr. Douglas-Strader? Present Dr. Dana Edwards? Ms. Lisa Howell? Dr. Jamie Bowers? Dr. Kevin Kindred? Present Mr. Jeffrey Parker? Ms. Felicia Colbert. Dr. David Curry? Miss Michelle Taos-Munroe? Ms. Jewel Preston? Mr. Coven-Pinkley? present. Mr. Trent Holmes? present. Mr. Roosevelt lines. Dr. Donna Christie? Mr. Nick Schmitz? Ms. Annette Jones? Present. Mr. Hava Johnson? Ms. Carl Robinson? Mr. Robert Bernson? Missed something… Sante Harris? Ms. Essence Herndon? Ms. Christina Bailey? Ms. Sharonda Greens-Huggins? Mr. Ronald Williams? Mr. Alexander Austin? Mr. Corey Jones? Ms. Jamie Florina? Ms. Candy Daly? Mr. William Lash. And Ms. Tamisha Kidd. role has been recorded. Ms. McMillan, Camila House, Will Bronson. I think that I know they're raising their hand, Cherise Vickery as a folks that have were present that you didn't account for. Amy Olivo, Carmen Lewis We'll get
002you a Santa Harris They're all raising their hand to tell you that they're present now. Oops. Okay, I've made those amendments. Yeah. Okay? Folks should go through and capture names that missed the roll call from earlier as folks jump into the call. Tonight is an exciting night or not, you know, but we get through it, but we're going to make it worth it. I remain hopeful about the future and this work group and hopeful about PGCPS and all the great things that are happening So, tonight's going to be twofold. Dr. Bowers is going to come and briefly just Remind us of our core work and why we're here. Subsequent to that, the superintendent is going to give a presentation now that, we have our estimates from the county council in that they will vote tomorrow
003On the approved budget. That will leave us with this week and Maybe one more meeting, depending on when the board meets, but we're clear around how this workgroup can be helpful for the board, and its recommendations. And so we will go into subcommittee time as the third thing we do tonight So first we will hear from Dr. Bowers, then interim superintendent Joseph will come and acclimate us to where we are based on the county councils budget and then subsequent to that, we will go in our work group And we will talk about recommendations before we go into our work groups tonight, when the superintendent finishes, I'll give you our final charge for what that means for our work and our final recommendations. So we will meet once more after this to make sure our work
004is tight But I want to make sure we get clear on where we are. Dr. Bowers? Sure, good evening. I just have two slides for us this evening, so I want to re-ground our committee in our roadmap. So we are still in phase one, but I think borderlining on phase two. So we are hopefully wrapping up our stakeholder engagement focuses this evening with our three workgroups Hopefully, when we meet again in June, we'll get a chance to maybe wrap some of those up and come up with some of our recommendations as part of our actionable policy for this work. We also want to make sure that we are moving into Phase 2 as we look at Positioning the board to allocate for funding and thinking about how we are best sharing out our recommendations from
005each of our 3 committees and strategically aligning our resources. So just as a reminder, our three subcommittees, there are core responsibilities this evening and thinking about how we can look at district-wide spending and staffing models, program efficiencies, cost efficiencies, any redundancies or areas for reallocation a cost benefit analysis of any of our programs, and then short and long term resource realignment strategies and our revenue and sustainability. Last week we talked about grants. This evening we will reconvene and talk about that, as well as other revenue strategies and streams at the State current fiscal and federal and local level. We'll look for any gaps or vulnerabilities in our funding structures currently and see if there are any things that we can help to adjust Looking at new and other diversified opportunities for revenue, as well as
006what advocacy strategies we may need to come up with and thinking about flexibility of our funding. And then lastly, our stakeholder engagement and policy recommendation committee, thinking about how we can engage our variety of stakeholders in the district and community and looking at our budget and planning for fiscal year 27 That may be in a public meeting setting, a listening session, a survey, focus group, etc. And then what other actionable feedback and insights we can share via our recommendations from our overall subcommittee work So I'm going to stop sharing and I'm going to turn it over to Dr. Jason. I'm going to mute Dr. Joseph, if you can. I'm assuming he's preparing to cook. This is our routine. For the strategic realignment work group Dr. Joseph is always preparing to cook for strategic realignment work
007group. Look, I'm the cook at my house. Look, folk get angry when I got these meetings. I gotta… Come on, listen. It's a trend now and the work group would expect that you would cook for us when this is all over. So we're expecting, yep, you see board member Olivo put her hand up. You're cooking for us I got it, look, I got it. The cookout at my house. Alright, well, we're tran… at this point, we're going to transition over to Superintendent Joseph. Work group members, I want you to make sure you pay close attention to what Dr. Joseph is sharing. It's going to be super instructive for our subcommittee time and helping lace up our final recommendations. So that you So that we can carry this back to the board when we vote over
008the next couple of weeks. Chair Jackson is on here. I don't know if he hasn's slated to vote on June 11th or 25th, but we'll know soon based on Oh, you got us on the 12th 25th. 25th. Oh, I can't count. So the 25th is when we'll be voting. How did I get 12 out of five and two? All right, it's that common core math. But at this time, Superintendent Joseph, we're going to turn it over to you Okay, Micah, if you can pull the presentation up. Uh, if you can, that will be, uh, great. You know, I also want to say thank you. I really appreciate the thoughtfulness of this group. You know, as when you gotta make… tough decisions on budgets. It's important that stakeholders understand Uh, what we see in and collectively
009help us think, because you have expertise, And there's stuff that, you know, we might miss. Uh, quite frankly, what I'll tell you is, you know, we're gonna get through this budget season. It was painful. I mean, I stop and look at, uh, you know, the fact that you look at our neighboring counties and so forth, you know, you've got a Montgomery County who got additional $143 million, and Anne Arundel, who got $76 million. Charles County, you know, got 14 million additional dollars, you know, and we received 20. Um, that's not a lot when you look at the needs we have, particularly after we've cut $150 million. from, uh, our budget. Um, you know, so that's a… that's a $300 million dollar spread between a Montgomery and us in just one year, as they gained 140,
010almost $150 million, we lost $150 million. Um, you know, you see about a $300 million spread, and… You know, we, as a community, and I think one of the actions we have to take from this session is we've got to start earlier, um, with this type of format, with stakeholders and the administration, and county folks. Like, we all gotta come together. and begin to educate our community. on where we are. And ultimately, we have to make a proposition about you know, are our children worthy of the investment? I know the answer is yes. We've got to get people to collectively rally around that and figure out the best ways to go about doing it. So I just want to take A few moments, um, and just talk about, you know, stewarding the investment, aligning the
011resources, uh, that we have, um, to do right by children. Next slide. And I'll move through real fast so we can get to the meat of the groups that you were doing. Uh, next slide, please. Micah? Okay, so what I want us to do is just, I just want to name the gap that we're in, talk about… you know, where I think those dollars should look at, or some of the big challenges we must address. Uh, and figure out how we sustain over time. Next slide. You know, right now, we asked for $50 million, and we got $20, so we've got a $30 million… gap between what we asked for and what we got. The county's gonna be voting tomorrow. And I don't think we're gonna go beyond that 20 million. I think that seems
012to be, uh, locked from what I can gather. Uh, so we've got to do, um, our part with the dollars that we have. Next slide. 17 million of the $20 million that we, um, have received. Really, uh, need to go to address operational shortfalls, things like… the compensation, uh, you know, gas prices, electricity is through the roof right now. Our fleet textbook adoptions and technology refresh. So really, we've got about 3 million, uh, that we have. to address our unmet needs, and one significant need that we have, especially education. You know, in our budget, we recommended Um, that over half of our requests, 27 million, uh, be… given to special education to address the needs that we know that are there. And so, we still have, you know, that $27 million need, although we only
013have $3 million to appropriate. Next slide. you know, For the $27 million, we wanted those dollars to address contracted speech, OT, PT, and counseling services. private duty nurses for our most, uh, medically fragile students. Sign language interpretation, compensatory education obligations, Our autism programs in our early childhood teachers, um, you know, those needs are still dire. And, you know, whether we have the money or not, we have to address these issues, and so what happens in a school system budget is because special education needs are not something, uh, that's, uh… you know, that's optional. Uh, we must fulfill it. So we're gonna spend… the $27 million that we need to spend, which will put us in a greater Um, deficit, as we have to work to ultimately balance the budget and balance the books as we
014go. Uh, through this, so know that while we have been waiting, uh, we've been looking within internally, add an additional $27 million in cuts, where could we make them? Which would make our cuts up to about 170… you know, $7 million this year, which is… very difficult to manage, but we know that that $27 million need is something that we must execute on. Uh, because our children are required to have the services that they need to be successful. Next slide. In addition to that, um, you know, we've got about 3,000 of our 10,000 teachers and administrators Um, who are having some… are at risk of non-renewal due to their licensure status. This is significant, uh, because we're working diligently Many of them will get their licensure and be fined. But, you know, we have to
015plan for the worst. Many of them will not, which means there could be a larger number of people who, um, will come into the system brand new. that we'll have to train. So, the need, uh, for dollars to address professional development in the system are tremendous, uh, because, you know, you can't have a championship team, uh, without championship players. And to be a championship player, you have to be adequately trained. And so, I'm anticipating, uh, that we're gonna have Uh, a lot of brand new, first-time or new teachers in the district. that need to be supported. And so, in addition to the special education needs, when I look at the accelerants that we had, Special education and professional development are at the top of the list. Um, because again, we won't move forward, uh, without,
016you know, the best teachers in front of our children. Next slide. So we've created this new Office of Organizational Development, and they have a clear charge. To consolidate professional learning, to deliver job-embedded coaching for educators, that we hire, and the ones that we retain, you know, it's needed, again, sort of like special education in my book, it's one of those things that's a must-have. Uh, you know, the fact that we didn't have it is something, I mean, there are lots of different approaches to address special… to address professional development, but for me, you know, I need one person, a clear focus and accountability, and having it in that office allows us to do that. Because we can ensure that there's job-embedded professional coaching, that there's teacher induction, leadership development, and retention by By design. But
017we've gotta find dollars to be able to execute to ensure that, you know, our 10,000 teachers and 200, probably 400 to 500 administrators, um, get the supports that they need when you look at principals and assistant principals. Next slide. So, the board, when they, uh, passed the budget, put $1.9 million aside. for academic programming, right? So, um, within that budget request, they… said that they would, uh, come back towards the end to figure out where to appropriate, uh, those dollars. And, you know, what I would submit to us is that we… you know, consider, in terms of on the table, we had the immersion, uh, programs. Um, that particularly, uh, at the middle school and high school, those programs were going to be phased out at the elementary schools. they were looking at their budgets
018to see how they could retain them. And then, of course, we have the special education programming, uh, which, again, had a $27 million gap. And then we've got this need for professional development. You know, there's been a lot of advocacy and feedback about the, uh, immersion programs, You know, the fact that we're a large, extremely diverse, uh, district, and we want to have… give parents the immersion option K-12, Um, and so, we've had internal talks, and I've communicated that, you know, I think there could be a possibility to just, uh, reinstate, uh, those immersion programs. Um, now, um, because I think we'll, you know, the dollars could be there to be able to do that, but then we've gotta lock in on how we address our special education programming, and… The professional development need that
019I just described, knowing that we have, you know, 3,000 teachers that are in jeopardy of leaving, in addition to the teachers who just need support. There are thousands of people that we have to have coordinated supports for, so… that 1.9 million is a drop in the bucket for our need, as is the additional $3 million, but I would say… Uh, you know, we strongly have to consider looking at every dollar to support our special education programs, uh, and that professional development. And I think there's an opportunity to, uh, you know, correct the immersion programs addressing the families desires, uh, that we heard, uh… You know, in this process. Next slide. So, with the dollars we have, I mean, again, there are 3 investments that we need to really consider, I think, but definitely open to
020your Your feedback and insights. We've got special education, we've got the immersion programs, we've got the professional development. Uh, all three are important. Limited dollars, so we have to be strategic while we're continuing to look for dollars to figure out how to strengthen, uh, each. Next slide. So again, uh, you know, we've… Uh, $17 million has to go to just stabilize the budget, which gives us $3 million left. And we've got a $27 million need for special education. I think, um… you know, as we think about academic programs, if we, um, want to listen and adhere to the families' concerns, bringing… reinstating the immersion programs, I understand makes sense. Uh, what we've got to address the special education program and build the capacity of our educators. And we've got a… the big piece… Knowing next
021year we're gonna have another $100 million challenge, and if we don't, uh, have real… answers, you know, we're going to be… cutting, uh, lots of people. Because we just don't have any more resource to cut. It's gonna be people. Uh, at this point. So, thinking about sustainable revenue efficiencies and advocacy to move forward is going to be really important for us, and… You know, that's the work that you've been doing, helping us brainstorm this. I think this is gonna be ongoing work, so once this budget ends, they're gonna be writing another budget season. And thinking about the advocacy and the education component, and uh… you know, working to, um… find sustainable revenue sources is going to be critical, uh, for us moving forward into the future. So I can stop there, maybe take any questions.
022I do have our Chief Academic Officer on, Dr. White, and our Chief of human resources. Dr. Edwards and our special education, lead, Ms. Trinnell. Uh, Trunell Bowman, our Associate Superintendent for Special Ed here. Uh, to answer any detailed questions that you may have in any of those areas, based upon… Uh, what I just shared. Thank you. Interim Superintendent Joseph. I'm going to leave space here for folks to ask questions before we move into this, but I just want to, before we go into subcommittee time What we're expecting folks to help us to do is, one, irrespective of what we do with the three additional million dollars from the county and the $1.9 million that the board took out of those security cameras, because that's exactly where that money came from, those AI enhanced security cameras
023to protect academic programs. That's what the board did, so that 1.9 has to go somewhere. I want to lay out for you people who are in the three subcommittees. Your work tonight is While we may not have those special education expenses tomorrow, they will show up throughout the year. And so whatever recommendations you're making to the board around cost savings will be helpful for trimming that 27 million down To layer that with the superintendent is already doing. So I just wanted to make what's in front of us be very clear. The second thing And Dr. Mossa, I also just want to add, You know, that 1. That $1.9 million recommendation that the board held that came from, uh, the security cameras. Remember, that was our wish list. money. So technically, um, it wasn't like there
024was 1.9 that we moved from. We got 3 million. that 1.9 is really coming out of that 3 million. Yeah. So I want to clarify, it's not 4.9, it was really 1.9, because here's the… these were the extra dollars we were asking for, we didn't get it. But in keeping with the board's mission and action of $1.9 million. So, really, it's $1.1 million. That was remaining with that 1.9 that the board had said they wanted to do something with academic programs on. Let's clarify. Yeah, absolutely. I appreciate the clarification there. So that is what we have in front of us. So we have the 27 million that we will have to find cuts for in terms of back to the superintendent's screen around the $3 million And the priorities that he laid out around special
025education or language immersion programs. And what I want to be clear for the public about when we talk about immersion programs, we're talking about in this moment, those two boundary immersion programs that were out there. So I want to make sure we're clear around what we're talking about but But I think they're also… we were talking about phasing out the middle school and high school programs as well, so that would be… left alone. Yep. Dr. White, you want to jump in? No, I was just gonna… the superintendent said it best, it's all four programs, the two elementary, the middle, and the high school. High school. Any questions for the people? This is where we are. Cherise Vickery. Hey, good evening, everybody. Sorry I'm in my car. Dr. Moss knows I'm always running one kid from
026somewhere to the other. Would it be possible if Dr. White could come to our committee subgroup? I just have some questions about like numbers and dollars around things and just when we start You know, providing feedback I just wanted to know if she could drop in so I can ask my questions about those numbers to see if maybe we can find some dollars there. Okay. I think she's with us tonight, so she can, Dr. White, are you able to come? I can… yeah, I can drop in. I'll do the best that I can. When I drop in. All right. Thank you. Dr. Kendrick. Yeah, I just wanted to clarify. I was taking notes while Dr. Joseph was writing it down. So here's what I've understood. So even though the council County Council votes tomorrow, I
027think you said, we're anticipating not getting beyond the $20 million, which means there's $30 million left over that we have to figure out. A good chunk of that money will go towards what it was said on the slide, budget stabilization, but 3 billion of that 3 million of the 20 million will go towards special education, but that still leaves 27 Million, I think you said, to address not only issues within special education, but in the other two priority areas as well, including job embedded professional development and immersion reinstatement. So is that accurate? No, I don't think so. Okay. I think what we said was, um, We do have $3 million that comes… we got $20 million. 17 goes for stabilization, so there was 3 left. The board took $1.9 million that they said they wanted
028to focus on academics, which leaves 1.1… for, you know, whatever that would go towards special education or the PD, we have to cut internally to make anything else happen. Uh, if we're gonna make something happen. On… on that. You good, Doctor Kendrick? Yeah, for now. Amy Sawyer. Yeah, hi everybody. So, this is really great news to hear, uh, Dr. Joseph. Thank you so much for sharing this. Um, I am feeling a little bit like, um… kind of what next. Um, so I… I think this group is… is incredibly important to continue. Um, but looking at those numbers about the decreases in the amount of money from Blueprint that we'll be getting because of Lower enrollment in the schools, the lower birth rate. Um, it feels like we're gonna need to start up again as soon
029as… Yes. this cycle ends. Um, so just wanted to, um… you know, put in an encouraging word for, um, the sooner we could start, the better. more public, um, reaching out to the public, getting more feedback, um, and, and truly, I mean, the budget book is a beast. So, um, I've read it, but I certainly… there's a lot more to unpack. Um, so I… I'm… I guess I'm looking forward to the next cycle. And I appreciate you saying that Amy, just so you know, I've talked to Dr. Kendrick. And this subcommittee, his subcommittee will make recommendations around what stakeholder engagement needs to look like going forward for next year's budget process. So that will be baked into the recommendations from their subcommittee to the board around how to start this process earlier and how to
030have deeper stakeholder engagement for the work So your point is well taken. I think Dr. Kendrick and his subcommittee will get to some of that in terms of their recommendations for the board. Any other questions or feedback Should I call you Tamiko or Langston's mom? Which one would you prefer to be called? I got you. Oh, Tamika's fine. So sorry, I cannot figure out how to get that off. No, it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good. So my question is about special education. So I think I heard something about one-on-one support for students, and I was wondering if any of those services that we're talking about are reimbursable by like Medicaid insurance or anything else. Great question, yes. So all of our related services. So physical therapy, speech, OT, as well as counseling are
031all reimbursable. If we have permission to bill Medicaid from a parent. We also can do other services, like IEP coordination, which is not a direct service, but if we're coordinating meetings, we also can bill Medicaid. So we have several pathways for being able to bill, as well as our private duty nursing services, psychological services, etc. Any questions from anyone else before we move into work groups or feedback? Oh, Vice Chair Oliva Thanks so much, uh, Dr. Moss. I just want to, um… I guess kind of express my extreme disappointment, um, in what we're hearing is gonna come from the County Council tomorrow. Um, we asked for… We cut almost $150 million from our budget. We asked for an additional 50 that we had very strong and clear, um… you know, information around exactly what we
032were going to use that for. Um, the two County Council budget hearings had a majority of testimony, advocating for full funding for PGCPS. And I just want to name how incredibly disappointing it is to know that they're gonna vote tomorrow And leave us in a position of needing to make additional cuts. And I just felt like I needed to say that here in this meeting. Thank you. Heard real loud and clear, Vice Chair. Real loud and clear. Heard. Camila House Yes, thank you. Um, I just have a question. I know that, um, Um, Superintendent Joseph, thank you for your presentation. Um, I just wanted to ask about the new office that's opening. I know a lot of, um, people in my circle have Um, some of their concern was, as you know, The issue with
033costs coming, um, them feeling like they were promised that costs weren't going to be coming from the school door, and that there wouldn't be, um, additional expansion. So is there… have you all… Because I'm in the group that essentially is going to be, um, Working on communicating with the stakeholder and stakeholder engagement, I can… I would anticipate that that is something that will come up. So, have you all, um, I understand you said this was essential, but if… When communicating with the average, um, PGCPS parent. Have you all developed a way to explain this additional Um, office, and is, is this being absorbed from The funding for the office has been accounted for. um, elsewhere, or is this something that, um… Has been, I guess, folded into this new budget or I guess my third
034option is Are you, um, consolidating or reorganizing other offices in order to accommodate this one? Thank you. Yeah, this… thank you. This office was, um… a reconciliation of… of other offices. Uh, we did have, but we did add a new… I mean, the associate superintendent position. Uh, is new. I think we had… we had a… we had a vacancy, uh, within our budget for a position, so it didn't add more to our budget. But it was a repurpose of everything. And I think people get… We've got 22,000 employees. And we need systemic professional development for them. I mean, any organization our size… that doesn't have, kind of, thoughtful professional development and accountable professional development. is gonna be in trouble. You know, and so… but we didn't hire a bunch of people, staffing offices and things.
035Everything was just realigned and repurposed. And looking at budgets to make it… work. And we could, you know, if anybody wanted to, you know, we can put it up. at a specific time in the public and kind of walk through… what's in the office and how it was designed and organized and things to… help people see it, you know, but again, the messaging that we put out is, Again, you can have a championship team without strong players, and to have strong players, you gotta have somebody coordinating Uh, you know, the plays, and we can explain that. Super Interim Superintendent Joseph, I think Camila's push here is one that I think we need to entertain a little bit in that when we use the term new, it doesn't translate to reallocation The general public just sees
036it as something new and shiny rather than this was a reallocation that we did. So if, you know, we could explain a little bit more around and not call it new, I think that might be helpful for some of the people. The second thing, and I see Dr. Edwards hand up, I hope she will address this. I research teacher working conditions a good bit And I like to… I had the same tension that the folks that you're talking about, Camila had, but if you don't pay for work around teacher retention or teacher quality on the front end, you'll pay for it on the back end, because of how much it costs to replace a teacher If you don't retain them, or you'll pay for it in terms of poor instruction when a teacher can't deliver
037a lesson at the highest level, children won't be reading on grade level, and you'll pay for it in intervention. That's hard to explain to the public, but it's worth explaining to the public And so Yeah, but I think one thing we… one thing we should do, is have a totally separate conversation, like a work session, I would recommend. on the office, where we can take the time to go deep on it. Because any… any short conversation isn't gonna really answer things, but if that's the only focus, and we go deep… And we explain its… origins, its purpose, its… how it's gonna be accountable. I think we could, you know… dispel and address a lot of the issues, and we can do that early. Sounds good. I mean, Camila, did you want to respond to that?
038You brought this up. I don't want to just leave you on mute over there. This was your… your concern you raised. I mean, not… not extensively. I would just say thank you for the thought about it, but I definitely think that this is one of those things that requires some very specific strategic planning, and I think while Um, it's… it's… it will be perceived a little bit as talking at if we, um, focus just on the use of the office. It needs to also be Um, respond directly to the question of exactly where the resources, both human and financial resources, are coming from, because that is a question we if you… if the key is… We've been talking this entire season about financial… about where the finances are coming from, how much less financially we
039have. We need to speak directly to people's concern with respect to Um, that financial, um, aspect. Otherwise, we're talking, and I'll be candid. Um, folks are gonna continue to walk around, um, discussing this as a corruption issue, so if If we want to make sure that that is not the, um… the discussion that is had. The transparency with respect to the financial portion. I'm not making an assumption myself, I'm just saying, I call a spade a spade in terms of what I know I'm going to hear. And it's well taken. What we will do is, I think the superintendent is right. Between now and the next work session, I don't think it's difficult for the administration to put together a document explaining how many people went into the office, what line item it came from.
040I think that's loud and clear. We can have it as an action item from the board from this work group to get, but I think the superintendent present. has also offered a longer work session, too, which I think are both important. But Micah, can we request that from the administration? Dr. Edwards, your hand was up. You might be saying that's what you want to do, so I'm going to turn it over to you. I receive what you shared as what we will do. And would be happy to talk more about it so that, um, it can have the level of transparency and to show the value that it will bring to the system. Um, not only for our employees, but also for our students and families. So, we'll work on the document first, and then
041we can take a little bit more time to go into greater detail. Appreciate that push there, Camila. This is the work we're supposed to be doing. Amy Sawyer, I keep forgetting I got to say the last name on Amy because I got Amy Olivo too Um, so I was hoping you could just really quickly remind us of the timeline for the capital budget as well. Which I believe is coming up, because, um, I know I've been getting some questions about, um, like, right now with air conditioning, you know, why don't schools have air conditioning? Why, with all this money, why aren't we buying air conditioning? So, if you have any of those dates, that would be helpful. I don't write off. This is a good quiz for the interim superintendent and I also know Chief
042Coleman's not on either. Yeah, I can get that information as a follow-up and send it out. I'm not sure offhand. Yeah, I don't know the dates right off either. Chief Collins, do you happen to know? Okay. I don't have them, but I believe they're posted publicly, and so Megan could probably grab them while we're in our breakouts and send them out. We got you. Does that work for you, Amy? We'll grab it while you're in breakouts and follow up on it in the end of the meeting when we do our wrap up. Thank you. Sharice, this will be our last one. I want to get us into our subcommittees. Vickery? I… yes, I would just strongly suggest that instead of it being a work group or at least adding in a community session, I think
043the best thing that you guys did a couple of years ago, especially when it came to change and transportation, was the community meetings And I promise you, like Ms. House is saying, like the word on the street is not what you guys think it is. The community is not understanding it the same way that you think that you're explaining it. And so I strongly, strongly, strongly suggest that you do community meetings about it, and then CIP, you guys have it on your calendar for the, your second meeting in August. Thank you, Cherise. All right, feedback taken there. We're going to move over in the subcommittee time. Remember the charge for this meeting is to finish making recommendations based on your group. In our next and final meeting, you'll focus on Your recommendations to be able
044to submit. So you'll finish your discussions today as much as possible. I know it's hard. I hear you, Amy. Sawyer, I will go back to the board around what this looks like long term, but we have to have some recommendations for the board to be able to deal with By the 25th. So we'll have one more meeting. And then we'll take all of these recommendations and give them to the board. Let's go to subcommittee time and then we'll come back at the end. Yeah. And Chair Jackson is with us tonight, Revenue Committee, I know you all are wanting him here to talk through if your recommendations are valid. So, and he has other ones too. Thank you. Jamie, can you put Tranelle and I in the appropriate group? Put us together? Sure. Okay, so you
045should have received an alert. If you could start pressing them. I know I. Yeah, I think you put me in a… he put me in the wrong group. Hey, Mike, it's not here. I didn't get an alert. Can you resend it so I can see Okay. Should be over in Dr. Bauer's group Hey, Micah, can you hear me? Okay, no worries. like, I didn't get an invite either, please. Thank you. Hey, Amy, good to see you. Hey, you too! Hey, Micah, sorry, I should be in the, um, communications, the external engagement. Um… Worker, please. Thank you. I know you've got a lot going on. I hear you, Chairman. I'm about to send it over again. Okay, so the last people I've had to lose… Um, personally, for whatever reason, Yours and Chairman are not back
046to the unassigned. It still says that you're in a group. So if you could just bear with me, I'm trying. I can't move you all, says you're… over on a subgroup. I guess I'm always last on the list, female. Ms. Herandon, is here in alert yet? Okay, great, thank you. Dr. Jones, have you received an alert yet? I don't have none. I mean, revenue and sustainability with Dr. Boss. flashlight Okay, you're welcome. Okay, so Chairman and former Levo, you do have co-host privileges. Are you able to select your subgroup yourself, or no? maybe, I'm assuming that might be the reason? Oh… Ms. Sawyer, do you see any light? Micah, where should they go? I can move them for you. Where should board member Levo go? Okay, board member. So I should go to the… Go,
047go So I should… Board member Olivo? Oh, go ahead. No, I'm sorry, I should be go… in the communications, um, and outreach. When I… I can click join breakout room, but it puts me in fiscal review and resource alignment. Which is not my… So you want to go to stakeholder engagement? I just… Okay, got it. Yeah, and Chair Jackson, where should he go? Okay, Chair Jackson, do you see your revenue and sustainability yet? I'm sorry, you're on mute. Okay, I guess that was good. Okay, he got it. And I'm gonna let my dog in the house while I'm waiting. Dr. Collins, if I can join stakeholder engagement also? Okay. Ms. Swahor, do you see another? And I… I don't, so I'm in the fiscal group. Do you see an alert now? Now I do. Thank
048you! Okay. You're welcome. And this kid, um, you may not have seen it, I'm gonna redo it again, okay? Okay, I haven't seen anything yet. Okay. I got it, thank you. This is what… Missed. Robinson. Present. You should be in fiscal view. Yep, alright, I got it. Okay. Okay, and then it looks like Mr. King… I'm patiently waiting. Your stakeholder engagement, correct, sir? Yes. There we go? Okay, thank you. Okay. So now, Micah, I don't see my name. Do you see my name on your end, though? I do see your name, um, which group would you like to attend? I've been going to Jamie's group Okay, that… So that would be The revenue and sustainability Okay. Alright, and you do have co-hosts, so if you want to bounce around, you should be able to. I'm
049moving you now. Let me know if you can see this. Okay. Thank you. Okay, thank you. I'm the only one come back? What happened? Miss… oh! Oh, wow. We're back here. I don't know if y'all had a hard night like we had It was hard over here in our world. You know, so I want to say this, we can do we've got 10 minutes left if each workgroup lead can share out. But I'll give you a little, and I haven't told Dr. Kendrick and Jamie this They know a little bit about our next meeting, and we're gonna get clear on our recommendations, but I'm hoping each group will be able to have at least 5 key ones that we can write about and be able to share. On the 25th, these recommendations will go to
050the board at that board meeting. I'm hoping to send the report Prior to the board meeting, so that my colleagues will be able to see it. But I don't know, my work group was hard tonight, but it was good. We were really getting to the details of the work. So I'd ask each committee chair to share the outcome in our last 10 minutes of time. And we'll start with mine. Cherise? Good evening, everybody. We really got a chance to speak with Dr. White today and kind of dig into some potential changes maybe and some recommendations possibly for programming in 27 That we as a group, we kind of pretty much are all aligned. We might not be all the way there on the language of it. And we're a group of people that are coming
051from all aspects of this several of us have children currently in the system in both Some of the programs that we are also suggesting change. So don't want to make it seem like we're not making suggestions that are in our own children wouldn't be impacted, right? Mine as one of them. But I'm not sure that I'm ready to completely share our recommendations because I think we need to have And I know we're not there to give our final recommendations, but we really just kind of dug into what is the data leading us down and the data is leading us that there has to be a fundamental change when it comes to the specialty programs, specifically when we're talking about immersion, we're talking about IB, we're talking about Montessori, there has to be some fundamental change.
052And so that's kind of where we're going. We're going to get a little bit of data back from Dr. White and Dr. Strader And Dr. Strader, Dr. White will be reaching out to you regards to that. And then most likely will probably be in the end, one of our final recommendations will also be in the swim lane of busing and some some hard changes around what busing looks like for the future. Thank you so much. As this group said, there will be some bold recommendations coming out of them, and they are indeed bold, but Yeah, so hopefully our recommendations won't have to be too bold, because the next group and Chair Jackson will have found us all the revenue where we can sustain everything that we're currently doing. So the revenue subcommittee, would you all
053give us a report out tonight? Dr. Bowers? Sure, we had a great conversation with board member Jackson about some possible revenue options. We talked about solar rooftop leasing, which I thought was a really interesting and innovative way to think about using our facilities with solar panel. We talked about MOU with service providers like, cellular phone service providers, and providing the infrastructure to allow cell towers on our facility properties. We talked about use of our instructional buildings, leveraging specifically CTE sites to attract adult learners, to be spaces for workforce development We talked about tax credits and rebates, the potential of looking at those to generate additional revenue. We also talked about leasing building and bus space for advertisements. So we had a lot of great ideas. Did I capture those correctly, board member Jackson? Okay So
054I think by the next time we meet, I think we'll have some good things that we can put together for recommendations as far as what we think are feasible for generating revenue for the district Thank you all so much. And we'll have to take those and try to change those over to policy. I just want to say in front of a great crowd of witnesses that I hope y'all keep the recommendation about those feeding cameras Because I keep paying for speeding tickets In District Heights, and there's a school over there, so it would be good if those dollars actually went to Prince George's County Public Schools. I just want to stamp that again. So yeah Okay. We did talk about that, but we didn't get too far into it. But board member Jackson did say
055that that would be something that he could potentially bring us back some more updates on. But we definitely did bring that up. I got you. I got you. Just want to make sure. And then the final group is Dr. Kendrick's group. Dr. Kendrick, you want to give us a readout? You're muted, good sir. All good. Can't believe I made that error. So yeah, so our group We have now a collective understanding moving forward what we're going to do, and that's making recommendations for the next fiscal year of what stakeholder engagement will look like. And so now that we kind of have that after Dr. Joseph said, essentially, we're probably not going to get the money that we're going to get, it helps us to say, okay, if we're really going to start this work early
056for next year We're then gonna, be able to come up with some recommendations that really highlight to some of the issues, you know, spoken about earlier to get stakeholders engaged as much as possible so that their input can be utilized to influence the outcomes. But with that said We were discussing as a group a potential plan to try to at least engage stakeholders and let them know that this is what is going on with the budget, this is what we've been trying to do, but we still have a lot that we're gonna have to engage with, and we need your input, you know, especially this next year, as we're trying to, you know, address the issue for fiscal year 28. And so Like Jamie said, we do plan to come up with recommendations in the
057upcoming weeks that will help inform this process. Yeah, I appreciate you all saying that. I appreciate your work on this. That kind of aligns, and we've got four minutes here, and I'll turn it over to my colleagues on the board to see if they want to comment. Then superintendent will get us out of here. But I'm hearing from this group and several subcommittees, and it's becoming abundantly clear that our budget process needs to start earlier for next year. We start in December by board policy and I mean, Dr. White just told us you know, the tension bridges… when you make big sweeping changes like this, I think that's what we ran into with families this year. When you make sweeping changes like this in March, and you don't know if you can actually do it
058or not, because you don't know how much money the county's gonna give you until June That makes implementation of any change miserable for parents. I mean, first it's miserable for children, and then it's miserable for parents, and then it's miserable for the system. So it's abundantly clear that we've got to do something early on and I'll take that back to my colleagues. Many of them are here, and I'll make recommendations to that end. But I want to turn it over to my colleagues who are on. We've got board member Jackson Saunders, we've got Board Member Olivo, Chair Jackson. And then I won't talk again, superintendent, you can close us out. So colleagues, chair and then the superintendent close us out Ms. Jackson. Oh, there you go. Yep, thank you so much. Thank you, um, Chair
059Moss, and of course, Vice Chair Olivo, and to everyone assembled. First of all, I just want to thank you. I want to thank you for the work, um, and it's been meaningful work. Um, and I know that you've had to dedicate a lot of time and a lot of energy, and we're just very grateful. This is indeed what the process should look like. I would love to see us as we move this process forward, be able to open it up Even if it's just for observational purposes from a wider range, so that they can see you and us learning. And really collaborating on what meaningful decisions look like and how… and stakeholder engagement really makes a difference. Listen, you know, the money is what it is. We may not be able to solve all of
060these problems, but this work is the work that is called for us to do, and I'm just grateful for it. So I'm looking forward to much more engagement. Yes, Chair Moss, I'm looking forward to us starting this process earlier. And then being able to engage more of our stakeholders in what you all have actually done in this work. I'm just… I'm just incredibly excited about what's to come. Sometimes it might be some bad news coming, as my colleague Levo mentioned, as we will listen to the outcome of our budget process. But it's also part of this process. And so I see great things ahead for us, I truly do. And I have to say I want to thank Carmen Lewis for taking on this task, as many of us are saying as we sit in
061the chair in our hearing, and we have advanced your names to participate on this committee, I know that my board colleagues are thankful for your work, to all of our parents and stakeholders in this process. So let's just keep moving forward. Thank you so much. I'll just be really brief, again, thanking everyone for being here. I am… I am slightly less depressed than I was at the beginning of this call, because I know we have so many really smart, active, engaged people working on this. And just really want to let everyone know how much I appreciate that. So, thank you. I'm gonna have to keep her from the council tomorrow, y'all. I'm gonna have to drive up and keep her from the council tomorrow. Chair Jackson and then Superintendent, let us go. Superintendent, let us
062out Good deal. Sorry, I'm trying to run from these babies. I'm being attacked, but these babies, man. But I'll just say that I'm I'm thankful for tonight discussion, man. I'm so excited about exploring alternative ways to generate revenue And like I was talking to the subcommittee, it's like we have to reimagine education. In the past, we've relied and been solely dependent on federal and state and local subsidies. And so now we have to look at this thing through a business lens. So every single part of the educational infrastructure We have to look to see if there's an opportunity to monetize it. That's from our rooftops to the side of our buses to, you know, whatever we do, every piece of the infrastructure we have to think about, is there a way that we can generate
063revenue? This is a new time, you know, this is a new administration And the subsidies aren't as, you know, flowing as they were. Grants are not always, you know, available, and so we have to become independent in some regard in how we generate our money. And so, I definitely love the idea of you know, businessizing, you know, education to a certain extent, but I mean, but it's still, you know, geared towards developing, great human beings. So, I'm excited about the different opportunities, that we talked about tonight, and looking forward to, actually executing. Thank you. And to close, again, thank you all for… your hard work and taking time out of your busy schedules to be here, you know, on this important task. We've just got a, you know, to move into the future, we've gotta
064continue the focus and continue to prioritize. and communicate our priorities. I think, um… You know, we've got to just have a collective discussion about… you know, where we're going to put limited dollars, and that takes the collective community to come come to consensus, come to some understanding, so I agree that the process has to start earlier. Because we really have to begin educating people so they can understand the mammoth $3 billion budget that we have. you know, what it is, what it is not, and what we're trying to accomplish. And I think once we have the strategic plan laid out, and we identify what we want to… Um, you know, really focus on improving Uh, in that first year, it'll be a good, uh, start for us. So, I'm thankful, and I look forward to
065of the future collaboration. Well, there being no further business of the strategic realignment focus work group, the time is 8:33. This meeting is now ended. Thanks, everyone. Thank you. Thanks Enjoy your evening Thank you