001okay good evening I would like to call this meeting to order um Miss Richards can you please do roll call yes vice president Anderson members of the board at this time we have four members present thank you next we will do a moment of silence followed by the Pledge of Allegiance okay thank you I moved to approve the agenda seconded all those in favor I I motion carries four to zero next we have the superintendent's report from Mrs Richards thank you vice president Anderson members of the board we have some exciting highlights to share with you this evening we would love to um embarrass and brag on Mr Josh Crosby he is the 2023 Arizona Transportation paraprofessional of the year and he was nominated sorry [Applause] and Mr Crosby you were nominated by the transportation
002administrators of the State of Arizona so can you come up here and thank you everybody that knows Mr Crosby knows he doesn't like to be in the spotlight however when you do such an amazing job this is what happens and we appreciate you so very much do you want to say anything to anybody hahaha I did not bring anyone with me came straight from work but it truly was an honor to be recognized in Flagstaff at the conference there's a lot of people in the state that do a lot of hard work my philosophy in Higley you guys all know is do what's best for the students across the state I tell all the other directors you know there's no secrets email me give me a phone call maybe they have a better idea than
003I have we should all be working together so I appreciate it thank you so much is worth a half [Applause] and of course we're doing our clicker thing again nope okay next we want to congratulate Dom Ruth who works in our finance department he couldn't be here this evening because he's at the asbo business conference but he was the recipient of a leader scholarship award and those are very rare so I wanted to share that with the community and the board [Applause] this young lady graduated from Williams Field High School Sarah Prince she was named Arizona Republic's 2223 female high school athlete of the year pretty impressive she might run faster than Mr Moore we can hope [Applause] all right we had an amazing new teacher orientation do I have any coaches in the audience
004if I do please stand [Applause] we had over 75 new teachers join Higley and we're super excited here's a support team for those new teachers yeah we also want to acknowledge that Miss Jessica d'ambrosia helped with new teacher orientation specifically by instructing our new teachers on how to use thinking maps all right Jessica you have to stand up [Applause] Miss Rebecca Rodriguez is in the crowd she already stood up but she can stand up again this summer she worked with our dual and World language teachers refining revising our instructional Maps I went over there that day or one of the days and they were having a great time working together and so appreciative of her leadership thank you Rebecca [Applause] and of course we're going to brag on community ed once again these are our
005preschool kids they love pool time and just going to Camp every day we also have a picture here of our Mandarin enrichment Club so there are a lot of opportunities for Higley students even in the summer moving on vice president Anderson do you want me to move on yes okay upcoming events tomorrow we have our back to school rally there are two rallies because we have so many great employees we needed two sessions one of them said 8 30 and the second one's at 11 at rhcpa and I think you guys are going to be pleased to see the new paint job and some of the renovations in the hcpa school starts on Monday and we can't wait just need somebody to turn the temperature down about 30 degrees would be great and then our
006next board meeting is on August 9th okay thank you I I'm sure I don't speak for myself maybe most of not all of us are had our kids go through the summer camps and it really my my children look forward to it they had a great time and then my first year back to teaching here in the district I had Miss d'ambrosio teach me and I I thought I knew everything about concept maps not a single thing it helped me a lot and the energy yes it you do a great job so thank you okay let's move on to the request to speak um we value input from our constituents this time on our agenda has been set aside for anyone from the audience who wishes to address the board those that wish to speak
007should have filled out speaker cards which are due prior to the start of our meeting members of the board may not discuss comment or take action on matters raise that are not specifically identified on the agenda therefore pursuant to ARS 38-431.01 action taken as a result of public comment will be limited to directing staff to study the matter responding to any criticism or scheduling the matter for further consideration and decision at a later date also we ask that audience members practice proper public meeting decorum refraining from either negative or positive responses including clapping or verbal outbursts to ensure fairness to All Points of View those that refuse to follow these rules may be asked to leave speakers please limit your remarks to three minutes and thank you for your cooperation first up is Jessica d'ambrosio
008good evening uh walking down that aisle takes me back to the time when I was on The Price is Right I wanted to run down and yeah that's how much energy I have about this profession I just want to share with you this evening about the incredible new teacher orientation process I was lucky enough to be able to work with Middle School teachers in our training we trained in thinking maps and some observations that I came up with of these new teachers is that they were skilled in their teaching practice they were knowledgeable about the content they taught they were engaged throughout all seven and a half hours of training and they had the utmost level of professionalism I want to say thank you to the leadership for such great hires to our district because
009it doesn't just stop there so I got to work with the Middle School teachers on Thursday and Friday but I also had a unique opportunity on Tuesday to meet all the new teachers to the district and they were so excited and eager to start this next school year they were attentive throughout our presentation and they showed a lot of energy the reason that I was at this um this luncheon is because I am a proud hea member that hea is Higley Education Association and the association is made up of Cooperative teachers who are student focused and goal oriented and I just want to say that I'm so grateful to work for Higley who gives us respect within the teaching Community to help make decisions and to just show us great leadership so I thank you
010for your time have a great evening thank you next we have Heather Balch thank you for writing out your last name good evening everyone I would like to take you on a journey visualize for me Christmas morning and an excited 10 year old has just begun to open gifts her favorites included a chalkboard and chalk an extendable pointer a variety of stamps and stickers folders and lots of paper even the carbon copy paper you see this ten-year-old wanted nothing more than to be a teacher for some the childhood dream is to be a doctor a firefighter a police officer but for me it was to be a teacher I would teach my stuffed animals my neighbors even Imaginary Friends I wanted to work to better the lives of children this passion never left it did
011morph a little bit and I became a speech pathologist for the past 20 plus years I have been working to improve the learning and the lives of my students to Advocate that their voices are heard and give them the skills to be successful never in my 10 year old mind did I think I would have to fight for educators to have a livable wage but in reality that is where we are Arizona underfunds public education in order to improve working conditions salaries and benefits for educators I joined my professional association the Higley Education Association I did this not to spread politics but to encourage the best teachers therapists and para Educators to want to work in public education all for the benefit of the students we serve thank you thank you next we have Roy
012Morales good evening members of the board today I'm I stand before you to advocate for the establishment and enforcement of a dress code here at Higley School District while me some may view dress codes as restrictive unnecessary and promoting the sexualization of individuals I firmly believe that the that it plays a pivotal role in fostering a positive and productive environment here are three compelling arguments and why we should Implement an enforce the dress code First dress codes promote a sense of professionalism and unity while preventing the sexualization of individuals by defining appropriate clothing we ensure that our students employees and members present themselves in a manner that reflects the values and the standard of this community a uniform dress code can eliminate distractions caused by overly casual or revealing clothing enabling everyone to be focused
013on learning moreover a cohesive dress code enhances our identity instilling the sense of belonging and pride and being part of this community secondly a dress code can create an environment of respect while discouraging the sexualization of individuals inappropriate clothing choices can lead to uncomfortable situations objectification or even potential harm by implementing a dress code that emphasizes modesty and dignity we Foster an atmosphere where everyone in the Higley School District feels valued additionally it's essential to consider the specific items of clothing that are not suitable for the Higley school district for either sex while individual expression is valued revealing clothing can be disruptive and inappropriate in certain settings midriffs and crop tops including half shirts skin fitting garments and undergarments in particular can distract others and distract from the focus of Education or work tasks and
014potential leading to less productive and comfortable atmosphere for everyone in conclusion establishing and enforcing a dress code in this district is not about stifling individuality but rather it's about creating an environment conducive to learning productivity and respect while discouraging the sexualization of individuals it unifies our community it Fosters an atmosphere of respect and prepares our members for Success beyond the classrooms and the halls of this District so we need to embrace the power of a concise and clear dress code and together we can create a stronger and thriving hingley Community for all on a side note your decision a few weeks back on a four to one vote to pay a stipend for the h president of the association that removes you from an arms length relationship and that could potentially lead to conclusion and
015reputational risks I had to point that out thank you very much foreign [Applause] next up we have John Mason I'm trying to remember the name of our last professional development person I think it was Dr treat and sometimes I I think I'm a little crazy and I was saying you know we really need Community input or a committee for Community input for social and emotional learning what should we be doing what shouldn't we be doing you know a lot of us really feel uncomfortable with social and emotional learning because there's some politics involved with it and and and if we go looking and doing some research as I have there is a lot of politics behind that but what was surprising to me is Dr treat was like really really supportive and he's going yeah
016he's like shaking his head up and down yeah yeah yeah you know let's get the community involved and I was like son of a gun this guy is actually supportive of my ideas and I was really touched by that in a in an event on you know I I believe in the fundamental goodness of all people we must remember that we all want the same things we want what is best for students teachers parents in the community the only difference is that we disagree on how to achieve those goals nevertheless we must run our district like a business if we want to have a strong District in the long term we have lots of competition in the form of charter schools and private schools they are strong competitors because they think like a business they
017look at costs and they think about what consumers really want parents do not want politics in the district let us not chase away parents with Petty politics in the classroom all teachers make mistakes and that's understandable and we should forgive that and just move forward and accept it they might introduce something without some politics without even knowing it so in the meantime what we should do is we should think of ways to keep politics out of the classroom thank you very much for listening attentively and respectfully have a great one [Applause] okay thank you and next we have Kathleen Richards hi good evening thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight tonight I unfortunately I can't stay for the entirety of the board meeting these conflict with my work schedule but I did notice that
018one of the things on the agenda is social media as it pertains to both staff and student boundaries one of the other things that I noticed was that in the questions that were presented On The husd Board site following there was a question as to whether or not that would include some language for volunteers as somebody who has volunteered significantly since my children started here in husd in 2016 we started with Kinder prep I have run PTO I have been the secretary for BTO I have faltered with my personal social media though at the time I pointed out that there is absolutely nothing in the husd district that I could find that talks about what needs to happen for volunteers with their personal social media if they have frustrations or concerns which over the years
019I absolutely have I'm team Higley that doesn't mean that I have never been like hey Higley we can be better there are moments that I have absolutely fought for things that I felt were really important not only for my students but for my kiddos there are moments that I have reached out to my network because I'm from the East Coast I come from a long line of folks who teach or work in administration serve on boards Etc so I'm glad to see that we are having that discussion because I think social media has become something of a weapon that people like to Bandy about and laying out something clear is great I'm hopeful that that will include you guys on the board as well as civil servants here of the Higley Community I think it
020is important for there to be clear guidelines about how you all are presenting yourselves both in social media regular media Etc representing both the school district public education which you guys have all taken an oath to uphold support and serve which we are also grateful for here in the community as parents and as taxpayers um and uh as you are fleshing out what that will end up looking like um I hope that you are able to lay things out in a really clear and defined way there were some interesting questions that I would encourage other folks who are either here or didn't realize that there are questions out there and the answers that were put out there um to go ahead and look at those on the governing board website they're always insightful to sort
021of know where the board is at since it's not like we all sit around and have lunch together and chat about these things this is the environment in which we have these conversations and that's a great way to go ahead and take a look at those things so thank you for your consideration thank you okay we're gonna move on to the consent agenda items I move that we approve 5.1 through 5.13 on our consent agenda items second any questions or comments all right all those in favor bye hi hi motion carries four to zero next we have our information items with 6.1 policy gbef staff student boundaries social media and cell phone use uh good evening vice president Anderson members of the board uh tonight we're bringing information item forward uh regarding the adoption of
022a potential policy for social media and phone guidance for educators so the State Board of Education is tasked by the state legislature by law to come up with guidelines for parameters for educators to follow and then the State Board of Education has a certification and investigative unit for violations of the guidelines and so because we're kind of in the middle between the uh the law that's established and then the policy that's established by the state board we're bringing forward a policy that uh vouchers for the school to follow and adhere to the State Board of Education guidelines vice president Anderson so whether we adopt this policy or not it is state law correct it's state law that the board establishes the guidelines but then its state board protocol that the teachers adhere to the guidelines
023thank you vice president Anderson I just have a few questions that when I was reviewing this um and I hear Mrs Richards and we also had the question regarding volunteers um there is a statement and that's what I was kind of trying to clarify on that it indicates um employees or vendors anyone kind of representing the district and then in parentheses it puts Educators um but the way it's worded I believe that could include volunteers the parentheses is what kind of clarifies it as just Educators versus volunteers so I agree I think we need to have something that includes our volunteers and I was also wondering if we do any training with our staff on best practices to protect them for instance trying to encourage everyone's human they should all have social media they all
024have a right to social media for a lot of people there's a lot of transplants that's how they communicate with family and friends and other places but I didn't know if we'd do any training on how to best protect themselves such as their settings to not keep their settings as public and keeping them private setting groups on who can see their posts because I think if they're out and doing whatever they're doing on their personal time and they want to share that they should and I don't think there should be any any repercussions or any fear of any repercussions of that um and we're not saying there is I'm just asking at that point do we kind of train them and give them suggestions on how to protect themselves in that fashion uh board member
025Reese members of the board uh we do train employees on the best practices from the State Board of Education but as far as like specific nuances for different social media apps not not to my knowledge no okay it's it's always a questionable slippery slope line there and everyone has a right to it but there are things that we can do to kind of protect ourselves and don't think for a hot second especially kind of Come Those middle school and high schools that people aren't trying to search their teachers social media accounts to see anything they can find so it just adds a layer of protection um and then kind of we talked a little bit about it about volunteers and perhaps even we taught it talks about social media but it also talks about the
026phone and texting um that may be something we can look at because a lot of teachers who run clubs Sports things like that they will set up a group chat and do some texting with their their students and that's how they communicate regarding outside the classroom activities but maybe something looking at some type of parent acknowledgment that the parents acknowledge that the teachers can be texting their student directly and communicating in that fashion with their student directly so that parents can you acknowledge it and if they have a concern by it have that conversation with that coach with that club advisor with someone just I know as a parent um several several years ago as a link crew leader that my daughter would be texting with with the teacher and totally understandable because it's like
027hey you know don't forget you guys need to be at school at 6 30 or it was totally appropriate kind of took me off guard because I didn't unders I didn't know that that was happening and again totally appropriate but that's not where my mind initially went so I think if we have some type of acknowledgment from our parents that in these instances that a staff member whether it be a teacher or coach may may be texting and if they have any concerns with that that they talk directly to them board member Reese members of the board actually going further than that the preference is there are apps out there support to you is one that we use already we've piloted at Williams Field with the Athletics where the communication occurs between them not through
028texting and parents have access to it we believe that's a better way for our coaches or Club sponsors to be able to communicate so the parents have access additionally anytime that a coach or a sponsor would push out a calendar or something hey you know practice has to go at 6 30 tonight parents would also be included at it at the same time as Administration has oversight and has access to see those Communications once again we've worked on it at Williams Field we'll be looking at expanding that program so we want it to be consistent the goal is not to have our teachers texting directly with students at all so there are these other opportunities we know that remind is another program that is used out there there are additional ones where we can still
029continue to have oversight of what is seen and what goes back and forth in the expectation is not to have you're directly texting their students at all thank you vice president Anderson um sorry I can't see past these name plates um do you know what the application is called that Williams Field uses uh supports you okay one that when we went to an athletic director's meeting uh with all the athletic directors in the area they came and presented to us Mesa has helped pilot that and has gone through it so we've leaned on them for some of their expertise on how we can incorporate that to make sure that that's how our communication works and then I'm sorry you said Sports you Sports you thank you vice president Anderson um I appreciate that as a
030former teacher coach student Club advisor having to give my cell phone number to students and parents obviously is helpful in practice not great it's not like I enjoy the fact that my kids could contact me whenever they felt The Whimsy especially if years later you know you're not I'm not currently a coach but I had students who were like I know your number and it was awful um so the idea that technology has caught up with us in a way I I think the separation of that making that clear to teachers this is an easy thing for you to to accomplish and it protects your personal info is infinitely better so I feel like in in the grand scheme of things removing that option because that was my first question as a former coach and
031an advisor because it literally happened all the time I I appreciate the existence of these types of abs the question that I would have going forward is maybe we keep a list of it um I just think of parents who have multiple kids at different things or whatever if we could either has like as a school if you're doing clubs keep to the same kind of whatever I'm just thinking of some of our parents or Guardians who might be in a generation in which multiple apps cause stress and overwhelm because part of the reason we've created this communication in the first place is because parents demanded it right parents like the ability to access teachers all the time and there needs to be boundaries and barriers to protect teachers because they are humans who get
032to have a life beyond the classroom kind of deal but I'm just thinking about complaints and those types of things so the idea of saying like for athletics it's this type of app for clubs it's this type of app and I think that that will not only help make this kind of streamline but help the community members access these apps so you don't have 17 different apps getting information and all of that so things don't get missed yeah see yeah I remember Wade members I agree and I think that's a direction that we're moving forward as there are multiple ones out there I know that some people are very invested and have spent years using some of them and so it's going through the training process when you talk about setting boundaries and things like
033that between teachers please know that those boundaries are also reinforced when we do our trainings through Vector Solutions there's one specifically about boundaries with students and communication and so that's another way that we help our teachers through the training process vice president Anderson I also want to ensure that whatever app that we're using that it's not tracking student information and sharing it with any type of third-party um that that's a huge issue with a lot of the apps that these kids use um and and we've had education sessions within the district to warn children about Tick Tock and things like that so I want to ensure that that's not going to happen with whatever app that we end up utilizing um and ensure that our kids are going to be safe when using any app
034and their information isn't getting out there a board member van hope members of the board that's one of the reasons why Sports U was chosen is because we own that data they don't own the data and so then it's not being shared out that was a specific concern of ours as well sorry vice president Anderson I just wanted to make sure that we verbalize this because we had conversation and so we're specifically talking about communication of staff to students so the things that they do on their personal account and those types of things it's not in the same so like for example at elementary school my kids use Class Dojo with their teachers and these would be the kinds of of postings the professional posts these types of things that you send out with class
035dojo which already to be clear is happening but I just wanted to make sure that we verbalized the distinction because it matters it's not your personal account thank you each of you for the input and for the ideas I want to ask a couple questions regarding Sports uh is it privy to records requests that information that's shared I I can't answer that question I'll have to research and answer that for you in status and is it an opt-in or opt out like is it up to the coach to enter all the information are parents going to need to be proactive and sign up and make sure their students give one of the nice features is that we can do it from our side as a district to put it in so that parent information that's
036in Synergy can be included okay within it very good that's an easy transition um and remind me I automation spread when I was teaching but employee personal devices so we were told in my school district that when you're texting each other if you're texting about students that your information can be record requested correct from our personal cell phones vice president Anderson yes that is correct if you are utilizing a personal device to communicate information with another teacher that would be could be public records that's why we recommend that you only in this policy you'll see the recommendation is to only use District provided devices to communicate with each other and follow policy as far as what you're communicating about of course okay thank you vice president Anderson um one of the things that um Miss
037Johnson and I discussed uh was that um this level of professionalism when teachers are using social media um and I know that our teachers go through FERPA training annually to ensure that they're not sharing student information and I I want to ensure that this this in addition to the FERPA training makes it clear that student information cannot be shared shall not be shared will not be tolerated By Any teacher staff volunteer PTO member anybody that is in our schools that has access to student information um because I recently experienced that with my daughter's information being shared on social media um and I would hate for that to happen to any other student within our district so I want to ensure that that is clear across the board board member Van Hook whatever policy this board
038decides on we will enforce that policy thank you um in the questions that I submitted in addition to updating policy to include uh the language volunteers and also possibly updating the policy for volunteers and adding it to the IJ and DB in addition to the ijoc I don't know if we need to make that decision today or those if we do up those specific policies we need to bring those specific policies for the change I would assume if that was approved I also want to bring up as far as my recommendation to actually put the language into the policy for the reasons that I stated should the link change or terminate our policy would be incomplete to the public staff board students if we were to click on click on the link in the policy
039and that link was dead then what's the point of the policy at that point and also the language is changed by the state but the link to the documents is still active somehow then we have language that we didn't approve so I would like to if we were to approve this make that recommendation that we take the language from the document and actually place it in our policy vice president Anderson just one more question Miss Johnson um may be a matter of semantics sorry it's the employer in me um part of where I struggle in the language with the state is it calls it best practices best practices to meet your guidelines and that's what we should do in the best interest but it's not a requirement so I kept going back and reading this
040and I kept talking about best practices and I really I really struggled with that because not like Mrs Ben hook said I know a policy is meant to be a legal thing and to me a best practice is you know you really should do this this is what is in the best interest um and and that's what makes most sense and so that that word of best practice just kept coming back to me and it it really bothered me um and so like I said it may be a matter of semantics since we are looking at it as a policy for us although it uses the words best practices um from an HR standpoint can you help me with that absolutely Boardman Marie said love to answer that question so if you look at pers
041the procedure the actual procedure we did change one word in there and it says all District employees must adhere to the Arizona State Board of Education best practices so in my mind that says that everything that comes underneath that best practice they must adhere to that it is no longer a best practice basically it is they must adhere to all the guidelines that are set by since we're adopting it as a policy our policy is this even though they mentioned best practice it's our policy it's legally binding and things okay and I feel that with the word must and said instead of encouraged um that was a lot stronger language to utilize I don't know if Mr Walker has anything to add to that members of the board I I don't but that was a
042concern that I had with the original language is it was very ambiguous so by adding mustard here um that there's it's pretty clear with that language vice president Anderson that was something I was going to mention as well um ensuring that we don't use the word shall and use the word must and um with my extensive experience and legislation that is one thing that drives me crazy when I see the word shall instead of must because it leaves a loophole so I appreciate adding that word in there thank you vice president Anderson so because their answer to you now prompts other things um for me personally one of the things that can I read that because I don't have thanks for always being prepared you know you're so good at that it literally says um
043Educators responsible for the content of their posting on or any form of Technology through any form of communication immoral and unprofessional content may be subject to disciplinary action by the board I struggle with that if we're saying You must adhere who what is deemed immoral um I I just feel like we should be specific and the idea if I in terms of best practice wish to follow along with what this is I struggle in that one person's moral maybe somebody else's immoral so I I feel if we must adhere to something and the thing we are adhering to is innately vague there are potential problems on either side and I just want to make sure that that all parties are clear on it board member Wade we can add some additional language but I would
044recommend that the board does not be very um specific in the language we need to make sure that we're not excluding anything that might come along so I think that's why they use words of immoral or unprofessional we find with unprofessional I feel like to to be clear I think it's just the specific word and then moral is the one that I have problems with I feel like unprofessional because we have the professional handbook but we don't have a moral handbook right so like we as teachers have a and a staff have a handbook that says this is what deems professional I.E that gives enough clarification for those things because I agree with you the idea of being super specific also creates situations that may arise that we can't possibly think about that you would
045still wish to fire that person because what they did was unprofessional but uh sorry to interrupt uh board member Wade members of the board that language actually comes from the State Board of Education and that's where the we're not determining if somebody is immoral they have a certification unit an investigative unit who makes that determination so we as a school district are adhering to the recommendation from the State Board of Education so that's just not higley's specific language that's state board language that's in that policy draft thank you then that's should that be changed because if there's disciplinary action by the board the if the State Board of Education is the one who's reviewing that then that's not ours board memories members of the board uh it's kind of twofold because there can be an
046initial District policy violation and then that gets turned over to the State Board to have either further action or involvement and um I'm not the best person to elaborate on that so I can turn it over to Miss Johnson if she has well is is that the difference from a district like because if it goes to the State Board of Education then obviously they're looking at certificates and and things like that so that would be beyond what the board would do but if the board's trying to as it states determine any disciplinary action um Miss Wade is saying you know we have some some issues there um but to clarify based on what I saw on the answers this conversation though and what we're talking about is School related excuse me school related social media
047so if a class has a Facebook page it's not talking personal correct I mean that's what we're talking about is if it's a club or a sport or a class that type of social media is what we're discussing is that correct yes that is correct okay so with that said for me the moral and immoral comes back to that professional um handbook code of conduct for the professional expectations because what would be considered moral and immoral within the professional development or professional um area is going to be very different than what may be considered moral or immoral in a personal fashion so for that clarification I think referring to the professionalism piece I I would even be okay taking immoral out because if there's if there's something that's questionable it's going to be questionable from
048a professional standpoint that was going to be my question is there anything that would be brought to you as being immoral that would not be covered under the unprofessional behavior but it's not us I can't answer that question because who knows what would be brought forth I fell along what Mr Walker talked about is the state if we have something to report that we believe is unprofessional or immoral we will report it and allow the state to do their due process and investigate that issue as well can I ask because now maybe I'm confused in the process so let's pretend you have a teacher who posts something that is deemed quote unquote immoral who reports that to the state is that our responsibility or can any member of the community report it it is if
049we are made aware of it it is our responsibility but any member of the community can make a report on any teacher certified employee okay because the reason I'm I'm asking this let's create a hypothetical situation you have a club that exists that allows for all types of persons to be accepted into said Club I.E gay straight Alliance club right GSA it exists which we already know and understand that some members of the community find that club's existence to be quote unquote immoral so my concern is protection for things that are already established and so let's say I as a club sponsor posed for June happy pride month because that's what this club is about the idea that then I could be reported as being unprofessional when that is literally part of that club I
050have questions or concerns in terms of protection if our policy states specific verbiage that then you can as a state level again go after a person's certificate that is their livelihood when at the end of the day it is a disagreeance on as some people Express politics so my concern would be to ensure that we are promoting not only best practices but best practices for what is already in existence I mean because at the end of the day you have people who are in professional humans exist and at all facets so my concern is that you have individuals who personally disagree with certain subject matter or certain things that exist that are even part of State curriculum standards and as a result get reported for things that again we are talking about people's livelihoods and
051so I I I have great cause for concern so to go back to Mr Walker because that's the state's boards uh verbiage it has to be included the immoral aspect um board member Wade members of the board we wouldn't change as a school district State Board of educations guidelines I just did a quick search under the State Board of Education guidelines r7-2-1308 they Define all of their unprofessional and immoral um actions so that that's where we're pointing to them and then they're pointing to their own guidelines we would never if we're asked to follow the State Board of Education guidelines we we don't have the authority to change their guidelines um that's you know part of governance will fall underneath what the Arizona State Board asked for but then they Define so if we want
052to kind of dig into that we can be more specific of what they're defining thank you and we can link to that in this policy or at least highlight so that it it clicks over on that word specifically or we can put it in these sites at the bottom I would assume would that be beneficial to staff and community members as they read through our policy instead of having to search it out is what I'm saying can we provide um board vice president Anderson members of the board I think we can do whatever the board would ask us to do we do have other policies that have the links to specific statutes that we can get definitions um all right that was information item the first one uh so we're going to move on to
0536.2 the special education day school report for fiscal year 23 fourth quarter vice president Anderson we have assistant director Kristen Nash here if you guys have questions or if you want to discuss anything vice president Anderson one of the things I I just would like to know is why we have so many different facilities um and I've I've had a meeting with Shauna and and discussed and in you but um so does one facility not provide all the services is that so each facility has different services that they provide I could take a jab at it but it wouldn't be as good so thank you board member Van Hook yes each private day school has different needs that they need for different students so we kind of look at all of the proof private days
054that Arizona has approved and pick the school that would best suit that student to make them the most successful so it's each a unique need okay thank you and I and I do look forward to like once life slows down to be able to visit these facilities and and see what they um offer all the kiddos thank you any other questions um action item 7.1 uh I move that we approve the overnight and out of state staff travel requests as presented second but then you can you ready to ask it's been second are there any questions or comments vice president Anderson um let me find my paperwork so I was able to um pull up information on this convention I I did ask uh what what type of benefit this convention brings to the district
055and the response I got is that this convention is globally recognized as the most comprehensive professional development event for language Educators in the U.S this event offers learning opportunities for all language educate education professionals it will provide educational sessions and training that includes the use of Hands-On learning environment that will provide tangible resources and ready to use techniques after further looking into this um I gotta say I was quite appalled by one of the well there's three speakers um all speakers are social justice activists um one of the speakers has a workshop on anti-racist equity-minded and inclusive language teaching practices um how can different groups of minoritized students authentically and effectively participate in language learning and how can Educators contribute to their success anti-black racism and other types of inequities and the World Language classroom
056will be examined during this Workshop participants are encouraged to bring instructional instruction instructional material lesson plans textbooks and online learning platforms to critically examine how these can be used to Advocate anti-racism perspectives and practices of equity mindness and inclusivity critical to making changes needed to promote success for all minoritized students this is completely against Arizona State Standards they talk about inclusivity but yet these trainings are completely racist they make people of white skin feel like they are the racist and I think it's awful that we're having to spend twenty one hundred dollars of taxpayer dollars to send somebody to an event and and this is the instructional uh instructional coach who then brings back the information and teaches all the other teachers um I it is appalling to me um that these teachings exist to
057begin with and I think we shouldn't be spending taxpayer dollars to have District staff to go learn things that are completely out of Arizona scan Arizona educational standards and I I have I I don't even know what else to say this this is absolutely appalling to me um and that's all board member Van Hook I'd like to give a little background on the process and and the why that we looked at this conference for Rebecca Rodriguez as you know she's had two years here and worked extensively with our teachers and our kids um this that you set up the conference is globally recognized there are 600 sessions that she can select from so Dr Lindsay and I spent some time with her looking at all of this and she's even gone to the trouble to
058pull the sessions the descriptions and make sure they are aligned to our standards so I am I I gave you guys a copy of this professional practices and so these are really um the steps all of our teachers and our coaches go through before they go into a training session they're going to make sure oh is this aligned to our state standards and our district instructional Maps is it credible is there value and the resource or the training is it age appropriate have you previewed it or tried to find out as much as you can ahead of time so there are multiple questions here and the ed services team work together to come up with this so Rebecca was actually part of that group so she knows this and this is in Vector now for
059all of our teachers it's just a good reminder right so on top of all of that I wanted Rebecca and Dr Lindsay to comment as well Rebecca has been looking forward to this and I think she has plans on how she would use the information so Dr Lindsay jump in if you want to Rebecca thank you for having me here tonight I just wanted to bring up first of all that the Arizona World Language standards are actually from actful which is the convention I'm asking to go to so the standards about interpersonal communication about listening reading speaking cultural standards are all taken from actful and that's why it's really important that we go there the one Workshop that I have actually signed up for is is designed for us to be able to use the
060data that we are gathering from our stamp testing of our students in order to best use and and work with our students to make sure that we are building our proficiency and performance in our classrooms I've also worked with an actual person they sent me a list of the classes I went through and found the ones that will help us build and and Market our DLI program and make sure that we are teaching our our teachers best how to work with our students and build their proficiency we are working on all of the workshops that I have selected are working towards building our middle school program and helping our students there to build their proficiency and be ready for the high school and the Collegiate Reddit courses that we have there so that our students
061are best prepared board members I would just add that Rebecca has done a phenomenal job building our world language and our DLI programs and it's important for us to continue to send our teachers and our coaches to professional development opportunities so they can learn the latest in terms of research-based strategies data-driven instruction all of the things that we've outlined in our strategic plan and so Rebecca can learn from that bring that back and continue to build capacity with our teachers in addition to the professional practices which she helped develop we know that with our support and oversight that the sessions that she will attend will be consistent with our expectations within our district vice president Anderson I absolutely want you to be able to have that professional development and be able to bring it back
062but um I just I think it's awful that the the their having to you know they're training people from all across the U.S and did you say worldwide that's pretty scary and this is the reason why parents have lost trust in the education system because this is the stuff that's coming into schools and having and and why parents are pulling their children because this is critical race Theory and this is what parents don't want their children exposed to and I'm not saying that that's those are the sessions that you're going to go to um but the fact that this organization pushes this garbage um on Educators um is really scary um so having to use taxpayer dollars to support an organization like this is what I'm against and not the fact that you guys want
063to you know learn new things and and be able to bring things like that back to the district not things like this but anything new within your um your job and and I trust that you will make you know decisions to ensure that this isn't the type of training that you're attending um but I I personally like don't like the fact that we're having to give this organization taxpayer dollars for them to push such garbage um is there no other option available in the U.S board member Van Hook um Rebecca has attended ASLA which is a state conference and that is very beneficial too but it's just not on the same level and I feel very confident after reading through the course descriptions that it they are appropriate but I will acknowledge some of them
064would not work with our standards in our instructional practice but she I I don't know how she looked through 600 of those that she did so the one she selected Dr Lindsay and I reviewed with her and we're comfortable with it and believe she'll come back and continue to make our district the best on the state so vice president Anderson and board member Van Hook um I'm struggling with the fact that it feels to me as if you say one thing and then you follow it up with something else I recognize where you stand as your personal political views on all manner of of topics that we have discussed so far with specific uh education practices the idea that it is important for teachers to understand cultures that they are not a part of especially
065when we deal with foreign languages in general there are a lot of cultural norms cultural practices that sometimes have difficulty in how our Public Schools function you'll have teachers sometimes who might look at how a student responds to something as disrespect when within their cultural practice it's the exact opposite um making sure that we are aware of the fact that we teach a diverse group of people is important you say that you trust teachers and then you say but we don't trust you to make the decisions on a which training is best for you what things you take back from that training the expectation that anybody that we are going to listen to in the world is going to say things that we 100 percent agree with all the time is unrealistic as a professional
066I can have somebody say certain things to me and say this works for me and I can go that would never work in my classroom right I taught in Maryland I taught in a specific District in which they were diplomats kids so in the time it took me to walk through my classroom to the bathroom I had seven different languages that I would hear the amount of holidays that we had to take or the number of days in which we weren't allowed to sign homework because the following day was a specific cultural practice all of these things I as an individual who grew up in Mesa Arizona I am pasty Irish I had no concept of these concepts of these cultural practices at all and in order for me to make sure that I'm doing
067everything that I can to ensure for my students all of these things it's there when it comes to our staff our Educators the things that we do I feel personally like you routinely ask questions giving the assumption that we don't put thought into these type of concerns and we are here seven months now into our time on the board and we routinely ask the same questions have you thought about these things I am here to ask you we need to trust the people in their professional positions to make these decisions if at every single turn a teacher who wants to make a decision to try and better themselves is going to be met with I struggle because this person is involved in this activity or whatever education by Nature involves a lot of these topics
068that you struggle with that is the nature of this profession I understand and respect your opinion on that and that is why you are here on the board it is also why when our students are in class and our parents look at the homework that they have on canvas and the assignments that are coming in and you have the conversations that you have with your students when you have concern we can bring to it you can opt out of everything that you have concerns with repeatedly the idea that we routinely have to waste an extensive period of time of our resources staff resources the amount of hours you must have taken in order to look up these things to show here's what I need here's how I'm going to use it because we have somebody
069who doesn't believe that you are a professional who doesn't believe that you know how to look at every single person in your classroom and make the decisions to try to say each one of them matter and I'm doing the best I can I am struggling with we want to save money we want to stop wasting resources when things happen we absolutely address them and I'm not saying that you will never have a situation in which a teacher does something that isn't okay because that's going to happen we have policies in place so we know what to do when that happens but I do not feel that we do any service as a board whose job is to make sure we are best serving our students in this community into at every single turn individuals that
070are professionals that are qualified to be here that we hired say I don't think you're capable making these decisions and even more so should somebody be there that I politically disagree with I have no faith that you are incapable of saying that's not appropriate for Higley I struggle with we need to show that we have support for some of these things and might there be people that you personally disagree with absolutely but when it comes to the curriculum that they are bringing we have already approved it and it has to adhere to that we have recourse if they don't follow through the number of professional development things that they will have people come speak that are useless happens and then there's a good portion of things where you learn so much about how to be
071a better instructor to the different types of students that you are dealing with I am trying to understand where the benefit is in saying yes I support you but I need to make sure I understand every single step of your decision-making process because I don't believe that you're capable of hearing information that might not be okay for Higley and then filtering it out yourself and saying that doesn't belong in the classroom we have hired these professionals they meet qualifications and again we have a number of checks and balances in place doing the best we can when dealing with humans but part of that starts with us extending that professional courtesy to do your job the amount of hours it must have taken the amount of resources we had our district exercise just to answer this
072question I struggle with as a taxpayer as a parent and as a board member because there are other things that are this is the week before back to school we have a ton of stuff that we have to get going and the idea that you say because this person is a social justice person I disagree with that therefore you're incapable of making an educated decision on how this benefits your specific profession in the state and District you teach in I I think it doesn't show that you trust teachers and I am trying to understand where that is and why because to continue on with this and the amount of hours and the amount of resources is there are other things that are going to be important that we need to address that we may miss
073because we have to put together a piece of paper that says yes I am an educated individual who is a professional who understands how to teach in a classroom and I'm going to take from these trainings what I need to be a better educator and that's it full stop kind of Amanda I'm a mom um vice president Anderson okay thank you let's let's move forward with our meeting okay let's move forward with our meetings so that we can hear from Anna and other board members board member Anderson uh excuse me if we could have excuse me if we could maintain order in the boardroom thank you thank you vice president Anderson board member Amanda Amanda Wade um it never fails that every board meeting you have to mention that I don't support teachers which is
074completely false um so I would appreciate if that stopped because that is not the case I do support our teachers but if you supported if you supported public education you wouldn't want this type of stuff coming into our school either because what that does is that pushes parents out of our district which means less money comes into our district so don't sit here and accuse me of not supporting our teachers because I do but I need to ensure that this stuff isn't I mean literally this stuff has infiltrated every part of Education which is why we because this is why parents are pulling their children and if we want funding to continue to come to our district then we need to ensure this doesn't come here because parents are have other options in this state
075and they are taking their funds and taking their kids elsewhere and unless we stop this we cannot make our district more desirable so don't sit here and tell me that you are for public education and be able to accept this type of politics because it meets your political views what my intention is to remove politics completely out of our district and not bring it in here ma'am I'm going to ask again if if we can't can we please remove individuals who have an inability to to just listen that would be great that's fine I appreciate your time here today ma'am ma'am I thank you for your time please drive safe if I keep comment on the matter unless you had I was going to okay um so is my due diligence as a board member
076and I do my best to look at every item I don't scrutinize everything probably as deep as others but I did look at this one um and I I also had some concerns whenever I I looked at the um the website and I brought it to Mrs Richards I had a meeting we met face to face and I brought our print out um of what they had on their web on their web page and just just to reiterate the language and the Dei resources and the language of those resources deconstruct deconstructing whiteness and white supremacy how to be anti-racist white rage white fragility why is it so hard for white people to talk about racism um I thought my God what and that's just some of it I printed out much more but that those
077right there I thought what is this about and I wanted to bring it to her attention and the what was conveyed to me was this has not been the narrative in the past for this organization or it didn't seem to be is from what I was told and I would understand that and it wasn't that I wanted to shut it down and say don't have it but I wanted to bring awareness to our admin that we are aware that these topics were were um being pushed I also sat through because I was able to go online and do the online and look at every single sessions synopsis and it says right there on the web page that social justice is excuse me it is uh their position statement it is on their on their web
078page so I I just wanted to clarify with Miss Richards that this is clearly I know and I stated that I know our district isn't going this way I had the standards printed nowhere in our standards is that to be taught thank you and I also uh um Rebecca correct she came into the room and spoke and uh I don't want to also come across I it's not that I don't trust teachers it's the fact that there is narrative out there that's in our college that is coming to our students that is being pushed upon them or told that this needs to be taught so we have fresh teachers coming in with that mindset and we need to make sure that they understand that that doesn't fall within our District's guidelines and it definitely isn't
079in our standards to teach that information so it's not a trust thing it's what's coming and then to be upset that the fact that that was a huge focus on the conference that our staff was going to go to we just wanted to bring awareness it's not mistrust I don't think it's mistrust on any of us it's just did you know this was there and that this is being pushed on our teachers so sorry if I could certain I lost my train of thought um I'll come back to it I'm sorry go ahead vice president Anderson I'm sorry if I interrupted you um so as we continue to review the website there are videos that are all listed like that however upon review of the 600 sessions there are I mean you could read the
080descriptors to them if they want some of them they're excellent sessions so Rebecca's professionalism and ability to select what our teachers and our kids need is important but it's I can go look for a YouTube video and fall down uh-oh where'd that come from so I appreciate the fact that we are being thorough and thoughtful in exploring everything and I appreciate your input and everybody's comments so I don't know and thank you you brought up I was going to point out okay there were there are wonderful sessions teaching to their to the um Health Care to be able to speak the language multiple languages in healthcare incorporating cooking and engagement strategies and how to test phenomenal sessions in there but again you have we have to believe in believe in our admin and believe in
081our teachers you're not gonna that's you know the standards you are very very capable professional and your goal is to attend those sessions that pertain to our standards to prepare these precious students to leave the school district and have that knowledge to take on their path Beyond thank you vice president Anderson um real quick can we have her sit I feel bad that she's been standing this whole time do you have any more questions for me though I'm good unless you have questions for her I just feel bad um no I was just gonna say I don't think any of us are naive that that this is out there um that it's acceptable in some states it's acceptable in some school districts um it's the direction they want to go um it's the intent um
082and I just as any good business um you're going to tailor to where money is I guess if you will it doesn't mean it's the right business but that's what businesses do um and nonetheless that these conferences are businesses and there is value there um like Mrs Anderson said we there are things that are not acceptable in our district and the courses the some of the focus of some of these speakers or and even some of the seminars or classes the breakout sessions are not acceptable in our district and I think every single one of us will say this is not acceptable it it doesn't belong here um we understand across the country things like this are happening so not being naive that that's not what it is however I'm also not going to sell
083ourselves short on getting good professional development in areas that we can uh and I hear what you're saying and I can probably pick apart almost any company and something that they do that I never want to give my money to um so they're there are reasons for anyone I do business with that I would prefer not to give my money to some of our government entities I would prefer not to give my money to um however I would have zero resources I would probably not have any food I would not have a vehicle if I solely try to keep my funds going on something I 100 agree with because I can't tell you of anything 100 agree with including our district there have been times and that's why I chose to run for the board
084many years ago because I didn't agree with things on our district I still don't 100 agree of everything that goes on in our district and we have those conversations um I would not be okay with this coming into our classes um I do have to trust our professionals they know our district they know our community and they know our professional expectations um and I think that our professionals put that aside as stated previously yes everyone is human um I think Mr Mason even mentioned it that sometimes things come in that they don't even realize could be misconstrued as something and we have mechanisms to address that and I wish we could prevent everything but even by scrutinizing everything will not prevent and unfortunately some things are just a reactionary world and I wish it was
085preventative but when you're dealing with human behavior and minds and we want everyone we teach our kids to have their own thought process we don't teach our kids what to think we teach our kids how to think so they have their own thought process and make their own choices and you just hope you've given them the proper foundation and the people who are doing this believe just as passionately in what they're doing as we believe is passionately of what we think it's wrong so I do trust our professionals I do trust our district that we're making the right choices and Mrs Anderson said this is not typically been the theme um as it seems of this particular conference and if we didn't have any options of getting good professional development that is going to benefit
086our students then I would have to say hey we need to look at something else but with 600 sessions of different professional development um then I I do think that it is beneficial and I do trust our professionals to to be able to digest that information and it's not even saying that in some of the classes she might be in that something won't come up but I trust our professionals that that doesn't apply to us they may hear it that doesn't apply to us that's not coming back this is not what we're doing 90 of this is coming I can leave that out so I think that that's where we're at that we if we want to attend anything Nationwide we're going to face this there are going to be organizations that are sponsoring something
087that are um sponsoring the dinner or sponsor it's there and it's unfortunate um but I know that we want the best for our students and everyone has the same understanding of what that is within our professionals and um and so I I just think that I hear what everyone's saying and I think Mrs Wade we talk about this stuff all the time um and and we have a lot of questions and I and I agree ask questions um but I don't know that we we can't stop and we can't dwell on it and we can't take you know the time because we're going to face this everywhere we go anytime we try and attend a conference especially out of state I mean even some in-state ones they're private organizations they're going to do stuff but
088there's still value in them like I said I wish I'd if I didn't give money to everything I every organization I don't agree with um yeah it would be very hot outside for me walking down the street so um and I don't think I would have any utilities either but um I I totally understand where you're coming from and I want you to know the the research you've done the information you've pulled and understanding it's only a portion that you've extracted and I get it you you do a lot of research and and everything and that's extracting the negative piece of the conference but we can't forget that there is a positive piece there too and it will benefit our students so um everyone I think in this room in this District um will agree
089that that is not acceptable and I'm not I'm not my yes vote on it it's not saying here go because and there's social justice area and we want you to learn that um I want you to go in and bring back good practices and and grow our programs because the bilingual piece of our kids just is so beneficial to them and it makes them so much more marketable in the job place so I my yes vote doesn't say yes go support this negative organization but the reality of it is is they're out there they're going to be out there especially anytime we we do something Nationwide and we just trust our our staff that it's appropriate vice president Anderson board member Reese um I will continue to do the research um I I spend hours
090again this is not a paid position I volunteered to be here and I do spend once we get our agendas on a Friday I do spend my entire weekend I was in Hawaii I spent my entire evening once everybody settled down going through the agenda because I knew once I got back the board meeting was there so I will take the time to do the research and I will scrutinize the agenda because it's our responsibility to do that and I will continue to anytime I see these things on the agenda that I will bring it up and I will discuss it and I will mention it um and so you know some people might not like it and they they might think that it's a waste of time but it's not a waste of my
091time it's not a waste of community members time to know what's happening in our district they depend on us for that and so I will continue to do that thank you vice president Anderson to be clear I am not saying don't ask your questions again you have a position on this board for a reason what I think is important and what I'm trying to convey is you say things like it exists in our classrooms and I'm telling you it doesn't and these are the things that are important and so when I say that we need to trust our staff to reiterate board member Reese's statements it is to trust our staff to make the decisions on understanding we teach in the district that we teach and what things are based on our curriculum and what
092things are not asking that they don't go and participate for things because there are aspects that are outside of what some might agree with and then not extending the understanding that you can choose to use some of these things and ignore what doesn't fit for our stuff the idea that social justice is part of that is because it's World languages and that is going to be an aspect of that because in other parts of the world as this is a global one that is literally part of their stuff because they don't have the same as ours so context matters and that is what I am trying to get at with respect to trusting our staff is keeping in mind the context of how and when these things are presented in the context of what our
093teachers bring back into the classroom vice president Anderson um and again I'd like to clarify I never said that this was in our classrooms I said I don't want it to come to our classrooms everyone truly appreciate it and for the due diligence that all of us do to make sure that our district is run correctly in following our strategic plan for success okay um I believe we're okay we have it has been seconded seconded okay all those in favor aye um all those opposed well I sorry I hold on sorry um I'd like to explain my vote um I will say that I was ready to vote no on this because I I don't want to support this organization but I do trust that you're gonna do what is within our standards um and
094ensure that um you are getting the professional development that you need in order to help our students um and it won't include any of this nonsense um so with that I'm going to vote Yes all right moving on to 7.2 wave the second read and approve policy now forgive me for pausing on this we had I had that recommendation for there's a recognition for the language with volunteers are we leaving immoral in at this point in time okay we have to okay and then um I recommended that we put the language into the policy do I is that mean it needs to come back through or okay okay so president Anderson will take your input and bring it back um and forgive me I don't know how to make that motion vice president Anderson um
095I move that we table the 7.2 with the wave of the second read so that it can be updated and come back seconded oh all those in paper I I motion carries four to zero I apologize all right future agenda items anything that we need to add um I would like to add the dress code to the next agenda please I'm not sure if that was the intention um but I would like to see that on the next agenda our next meeting isn't until um the 9th of August when schools already started so if there are major changes to the dress code policy um how does that get how does that go through after school being in a session already a couple weeks we need to update handbook or anything or do we yeah that
096we're given yeah sorry vice president Anderson we currently have addressed code policy in place that will remain in place if we bring it back and changes are made then we'll have to communicate out in again going off if there were any major changes to the dress code policy leniencies were approved and consequences had already been given the first couple weeks of school to students how was that how's that handled uh board member Anderson vice presidential members of the board the dress code policy that's uh in effect right now has been the same one since 2001 we've had a dress code policy for you know a long period of time it the handbook points to the policy not to the language so if there are any consequences right now we operate under the uh the policy
097is in effect and if it changes then it changes from that point forward vice president Anderson Mr Walker um can we ensure that the dress code policy is actually being enforced because uh I from my experience um it ha you know it's not fully enforced by by staff um so I just want to ensure that when we do have a policy like that that it is actually enforced board member Van Hook members of the board um that's the expectation is it all policies and procedures are enforced at all times uh if we're made aware that we're not then we'll follow up can you remind me of the process we're approving the policy the regulation which is um that we currently have in place that's much more detailed in regards to the policy so when the
098policy comes forward then the regulation doesn't need to be approved by the board correct that is something that the district creates from the policy am I understanding that yes vice president Anderson members of the board uh when we bring a policy forward the board approves the policy the regulations not approved but the regulations are brought forward when there are changes to regulations vice president Anderson and then can we whatever it is that you guys are asking for whether any changes not changes can we try and get that as soon as possible so that we have time to kind of review it and formulate any questions and whatever's coming forward to the board for review so that we can all have time to address code's a Hot Topic there's a lot to kind of go in
099and that way we're not just looking at it for three days um right but it it went back and it's supposed to be coming back so I'm just asking whatever's coming back for because we don't have to approve our current dress code so if there's no change in policy then there's no reason for the policy to come to the board because there's no change so I'm assuming there's going to be some recommendations of changes and that's what I'm asking that we get that we get what's going to be coming for their recommendation sooner than later than our normal available board packet because we need to have time to review it formulate questions and then that way if you if we have questions we can try and get them to them sooner than later so that
100we're not getting them to them on Monday and the board meetings Wednesday because I know that based on questions that are asked and just like this evening and Miss Wade referenced it is questions May generate more questions and so if we're seeing what these questions are um it may prompt another question and dress code is it's a big topic it's a Hot Topic between staff and community and I mean it's it's not a simple one so I think we want to have time and be able to submit our questions as we can I mean and then that way we can all come prepared because I think it's going to be a conversation so there are changes to what was already brought forward with the changes we already had a policy brought with changes oh you
101so you're saying if there are beyond that are there any other feature gen items there are questions we want to bring forward all right well I move that we adjourn second that's just the language in there who seconded it I did thank you all those in favor aye aye motion carries four to zero thank you so much everybody have a great evening and welcome back to school rally tomorrow I can't wait to see everybody there