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Board of Education Disability Issues Advisory Board Meeting September 9, 2025

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2025-09-10
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Prince George's County, MD
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9,255 words · about 52 min
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2026-06-26

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001Good evening everyone. This is Teresa Smith, vice chair of the disability issues and advisory board. Um I welcome you all here this evening um as we get started for this new school year. Miss Johnson, I actually think you've already done this, but um I was going to ask you to start the recording. The time is now 6:10. And for those who are unable to observe now, the meeting is being recorded and can be accessed on the PGCPS YouTube channel for later viewing. Miss Vickery, could you please take the roll call? >> Yes. Um, board member Aris, did I say that correctly? >> No. Ariela Aakay. >> Ariela Aakay. >> Yes. present. >> Thank you. >> Member Sylvia Amaya. >> Chair Blackwell. >> Present. >> Miss Bowman. >> Present. >> Miss Burn. >> Present. Miss Dorsy,

002Miss Doyle, >> Mr. Dwire >> present. >> Miss Catrell >> present. >> Miss Tori Meyers >> present. >> Board member Oliv Olivo. Olivo. >> Olivo. Very close. Thank you. Thank you. >> And sorry if you see me repeating. That's just so I can remember how to pronounce correctly. >> Miss Payne, >> present. >> Miss Patrick, >> present. >> Vice Chair Smith, >> present. >> Miss Vickery, I am present. And Miss Winggate Robinson, >> present. Vice chair, we have Cororal with a total of 13 present. >> With the quorum present, the disability issues advisory board meeting will come to order. >> Vice Chair, I'm sorry. I need to um account for board member Brown. I'm so sorry. I was taking attendance and not looking at my screen. So, um, vice chair, might I interject for just

003a quick second? Uh, so shares, uh, board members Olivo and Brown are not voting members, um, for the app, so you don't have to call their names for the roll call. >> No problem. >> But I do want to acknowledge for your attendance, vice chair, board member Brown is present as well. >> Okay, great. Thank you. All right, so we're going to move right into agenda item 3.0, O and that is the approval of the minutes. Approval of the June 9th, 2025 meeting minutes. If there are no corrections, the advisory board shall approve the June 9th, 2025 meeting minutes as distributed. Miss Vickery, >> I do want to acknowledge that there were um corrections that were made at our last meeting um and as well as offline um to acknowledge um that there was a

004correction to Miss Tori Meyer's last name. Um we had her listed just um by Meyers and it is Tori Meyers. Um, in addition, we in our May, I believe our May meeting as well, um, those minutes were resubmitted to make sure that we properly acknowledged when we, um, introduced Mr. Dwire and Miss Torian Myyers to the board. >> Thank you for relaying that information. Um, and I actually have some corrections. Um, I don't know what's the best way to relay them, but right now I'll try to relay them how I see fit and um, you just let me know otherwise. So, on page two, oh, let me also state this. Um, the concerns that I had with the meet the meeting minutes were mostly related to grammatical errors. Um, so on page two, item number

005three, um, there's a statement that that was being made, but it's not fully completed. On page three, I think we're still under item three. No, we're not. So on page three is falling under item 5.1 employment and hiring. It's the second paragraph there. Um it starts at the sentence. It says Miss Bowman advised that Vice Chair Smith would be under. It's just some grammatical errors with that sentence as well as the one after that. Item 5.3 is the first paragraph. Item 6.0 is the second paragraph towards the bottom. Um, it's the last sentence in that second paragraph. And it's also Oh, where does this sentence start? In that same paragraph, um it starts that vice chair Smith advised that the recommendations review um there's a grammatical error with that sentence. I think this is still

006the same section. Still the same section, but P >> tell me the last one again. >> 6.1 >> was it or 6.2? >> Um 6.1 >> 6.1 page >> Page four. Okay. And then it's the it's the second paragraph and it starts with Vice Chair Smith. And then the one before that one was just simply the last sentence. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Sorry, I'm just pulling them out so that I can go back and correct them. >> Okay, no problem. Um, page five is still that same item 6.1 and it's the first paragraph. And it is >> is that the one that ends in June 26 board meeting? >> Yes. >> Got you. >> And it's um it looks like it's the last two. It is not. It's the second to last two

007sentences. >> Okay. >> And then my last one was on page six. The item number is 8.0 >> and it's similar to the very first one. It looks like um a statement was being made, but it didn't get completed. Um it's the second paragraph. >> I caught it. I see it. >> Okay. >> I wonder if I saved before it saved, but I'll have to go back to the listen to the meeting again. >> Okay. >> That was >> No problem. >> Business um for the public. Just to be advised, sometimes the way I write my notes is that when we're going on and we're missing things, I'll put a bolded part. And so these are probably bolded parts that I missed when I was going back and making sure we had everything. >> Um

008I I have a question for a point of clarity. >> How would you um if I go back and I listen to these and these are sections where maybe people were talking over one another, how would you guys like me to identify that? Um, vice chair, may I interject? Um, >> absolutely. >> So, you could say there was a robust discussion amongst the members. Um, without specifically, uh, naming anyone, um, if it's not really clear who's speaking, you could just say that the members were engaged in a robust discussion. >> Thank you. Is there any other feedback to this item? Approval of the meeting minutes for June 29th, 2025. All right. Hearing none. Um because there are corrections. Let me let me just read this real quick. Okay. I think I have to make I

009have to formally make this statement. Miss Vickery, please take note of the corrections. If there are no further corrections, the advisory board shall approve the June 9th, 2025 meeting minutes as corrected. All right. Item 4.0, adoption of the agenda. Adoption of the September 9th, 2025 meeting agenda. If there are no objections, the advisory board shall adopt the September 9th, 2025 meeting agenda. Hearing no objections, the September 20 the September 9th, 2025 meeting agenda is adopted. 5.0 reported the chair. So again, I would like to welcome everyone back and I hope that you all enjoyed your summer. We are now here to resume our work. I would like to begin by informing you about the meeting that we had with CCAC over the summer. There we discussed crosscutting priorities in preparation for an upcoming meeting with

010the interim superintendent, Dr. Joseph. Um, I'd like to be a little detailed. I believe that meeting is scheduled for September 22nd. I want to just take a quick look. um and the executive uh board will be meeting with him and all we all we plan to do is just share um our recommendations report. He was not in place at the time we presented this to the board of education. Um so we're going to use that time to just go over um the items that's inside of the report. And I cannot pull the date up, but I believe it's September 22nd. If that's a Monday, that's what I do remember. It is September 22nd. Um Okay. Um Okay. So then the other item that I needed to do was to allow our new members introduce themselves.

011So board member Olivia, would you like to have the floor to introduce yourself to us? >> Thank you so much. Um Miss Smith, I really appreciate the opportunity to be here. Um, and I'm so thrilled to be um, board member Brown's um, alternate or support here as your liaison. Um, you may know I'm I'm pretty new to the board of education. I was just appointed at the end of April. Um, I am a PGCPS parent. My older son graduated from Parkdale High School in 2024. Um, he is a um, twice exceptional student. So, um I am very familiar with the the IEP and the 504 and the all the things. Um and then my younger son is a sophomore at Duval this year. So, again, I'm just thrilled to be here um to work with

012this incredible group of folks and to support you in any way I can. Thank you. >> Awesome. Well, welcome aboard. A student board member. Um, I did not I did not pay attention when you were pronouncing your name, so please forgive me. Um, but you have the floor now and I need to be like Miss Vickery and repeat it so that I can retain the information. I heard if you say somebody's name three times, you will remember it. So, that will be my goal with you. So, you have the floor. >> Thank you, Miss Smith. My name is Ariel Lua Educay and um I currently go to Ellen Roosevelt High School. I'm a senior there. I'm really excited to you know serve on this committee as I do have a younger brother who um has

013autism and I do support him like physical the like through his physical therapy appointments and speech therapy occupational therapy appointments. So I'm just so excited to be able to like you know serve as a student voice on this committee this year and I can't wait to work with all of you. Awesome. We are excited for you to be here. Um I'm always advocating to have that student voice. So I'm so glad that you joined tonight and that you will be here for our future meetings. Um Miss Johnson, were those the only two individuals that are new members? >> Yes. Um, yes, because I think in the last meeting, uh, Tangela and, uh, Christopher did introduce themselves. >> Fabulous. Thank you for confirming this for me. All right, so we're going to move right along to

014presentations. Item 6.0, um, which I think will be also led by me. Um, so the first item is is related to our recommendations report. So, we did ask the board of education to provide feedback by August 31st and from my understanding they are actively working on that feedback and it will be prepared by our our October meeting. I know that we're going to meet twice this month. So, um you all can look forward to having that rep the feedback from that report by then. Board member Brown, is there anything additional that I need to state? >> No, you stated exactly that. So, we my me myself and board member Olivo, we are on it. >> Awesome. >> So, we are super excited and I'm really happy to hear that you have a meeting with the

015interim superintendent as well. And so, it's all coming together. It's all coming together. We are continuously advocating for you all. So, thank you so much for your patience and your recommendations. >> Awesome. Um, oh my goodness, I just lost my agenda here. Um, hold on guys. I know I have it up on another device while I try to figure out what happened over here. So, the next item is related to the legislative priorities at the district level. So, normally legisl legislative season for the school district as far as the discussions would be held in November. It was moved up this year and is being held on September 19th. That did not give us time as a group to to discuss um but we needed to bring that information here. So, let me let me start

016by saying what I know are the two top legislative priorities that's applicable that I think is applicable to this group. Hold on, guys. All right. And and I need to preface this by saying that the board of education met with the administrators and um there was a vote taken. know these items well let me say this the items that are the priorities have already been voted on. So the top two is related to special education specifically increase funding for multi-tier systems of support to address the individual needs of students receiving special education services and incentives to attract and retain special educators and related service providers. Then the next one is construction and facilities. Sufficient funding to address PGCPS's urgent need to provide healthy places for our scholars to learn, renovate aging school buildings, complete infrastructure

017and facility repairs of our aging school buildings, and receive annual inflation adjustments for new construction costs. Now, I will let you all know that I did put in a request for the disability issues advisory board to have a seat at the table, but unfortunately, DAP has not been invited to legislative day. From my understanding, this is due to space limitation. The additional feedback feedback that was shared was that it will be looked into next year and that the board anticipates several opportunities to advocate for recommendations from this committee as they lead up to and engage during legislative season. Now, fortunately for us, I will be in attendance as a representative from the parent and community advisory council, and I'm willing to share any information on behalf of DAB. So, feel free to email me or

018we can set up a meeting to discuss any items under those priority areas. Additionally, our two board members here, they will also be in attendance and I'm sure they will be willing to share anything from this body as well. So, I'll take a pause there. Is there any reactions to this information that I just shared? >> May I be recognized? Sure. >> Is that Miss Patrick? >> Yes, it's me. >> Thank you. Um, so I I just wanted to inform the group that the board of education and department of capital programs have invited the public to participate in a hearing on the 2027 to capital improvement program. That hearing is going to be held on Wednesday, September 17th at 6:30 p.m. And um this program is this, pardon me, it's the six-year budget plan for

019school construction, modernization, and major facility investments. So, I don't know if it's too soon um vice chair to move business, but I was going to make a motion that we authorize one or more representatives of this body to prepare and deliver testimony either orally at the public hearing or by written or video submission using the Board of Education um and Department of Capital Programs essentially to prioritize ies accessibility. So, if we could send someone uh or write something, that is my motion. Vice Chair, may I just interject? Uh so, Miss Patrick can actually make this motion when we get to agenda item new business. So, if you want to just kind of make a note of what you just said and you could be recognized in 7.0 and make >> No problem. Thank you. >>

020You're welcome. Let me hold. I'm over here trying to take notes and conduct this meeting. So, let me highlight this really quick. All right. Uh, Miss Vickery, Vice Chair, you don't have to recognize me right now. >> Okay. All right. Are there are there any others for feedback on the top two legislative priorities? All right, hearing none. Our next chair Oh, yeah. >> I'm sorry. Actually, I do um have a question. Can you let us know what the other priorities were? Do you happen to have those? >> I do. Um let me let me get them. Let me grab them real quick. The other two um pertains to programs to address multi- lingual students academic achievement challenges, sufficient funding to support the provision of a variety of instructional programs for newcomers, integrated academic interventions for

021long-term English learners, and expanded access to counseling services, all of which are designed to foster both language development and social emotional growth. And then the last one, safe and secure environments for students and staff. additional grant funding to address safety and security concerns throughout our schools, such as security enhancement devices, vape detector sensors, digital cameras, and alert systems for emergency response so that our students are safe. So that our students and staff are safe. All right. Um any other questions, feedback? All right, hearing none. Item 6.3, new member on boarding process. So, um, prior to us ending our our, um, the word tenure is coming in my head, but, um, our year last year, we had two new board members and there was a question for us to have, um, on boarding with them. I

022know as an entire group, none of us was on boarding so on boarded. So I wanted to um I guess bring to you all that there is no onboarding process. We will have to develop one. Um, and I guess we just want to get your feedback on how you envision this to be um, for our new members, >> Miss Vickery. So, I know that um we kind of learned on the go about um the Maryland Open Meetings Act um and things like that. I I would suggest that if because we still have the we we still have the open question about whether or not the board will accept the recommendations of how new members should join the advisory board. Um and for to remind the public and then for our new members um we had

023suggested that um the any new members that the appointments should be staggered. Um so I I think that there should at least be some type of training um whenever there is a new member that joins the advisory board around the Maryland um open meetings act. Um I think that's probably the most important one. Um, and then I think there maybe should be um maybe a quick rundown um and I'm not sure if we need more than 30 minutes but around the different um subcommittees um but that that that would be my suggestion just because we we are still waiting for that feedback from the board. Thank you for sharing that. So um formal trainings related to the opens meeting act. Would you be okay if I also add Robert's rules of order there? Yes. Okay.

024And then the next person you have that asked to be recognized was Miss Catrell. After that was Miss Tori Myers and then Miss Payne in that order. >> Thank you Miss Catrell. >> Yes. So, you guys kind of hit the nail on the head for me. Um, those are the going to be the things that I was going to suggest as well. Um, and then like the staggering is super helpful. Um, I recently turned over my PCO board and just having information with just things that you over you might assume people know how to do, but just how to locate documents and you know where all those things are are super helpful. and we compiled those things as like a one cheater um just because it can be overwhelming when you're trying to locate information

025and then you know still try to remind yourself of what the information shares. Awesome. Okay, so I caught that a one pager um kind of navigating and it and it's probably going to be especially important now because the school or maybe the board of education and I think this impacts really a lot of schools um or a lot of districts. We are no longer using Miss Johnson remind me. I want to say board docs but it's not board do it is board docs. Yes. >> Okay. >> We're no longer using board docs. So I was just learning that tool and now I have to learn another one. So yes, the location of documents and how to navigate um the different tools that we have um where information is stored. All right. So, Miss Tor, is

026it Torian Meyers? >> It's Torin. To >> Y I'm just gonna echo what you all have been saying. I think um there should be some either one page or some kind of onboarding process because when we started it was already towards the end of the year and so we were being asked if we wanted to join a committee yet not having any kind of understanding of what they were doing, what work was already in flight. um you know and so I am I'm not a person that wants to jump in and start making suggestions when I don't know what you all have already accomplished. So and you've got you know new student member would be helpful um for her to be able to get up to speed at her pace. Um and and just knowing

027you know what work you've already accomplished so that we aren't repeating things will be helpful um in the interest of time and our efforts. So that's all. >> Absolutely. Okay. Thank you for sharing that. So, an overview on the subcommittees as far as what they are and then um any sharing any information about the accomplishments. All right, Miss Payne. Yes, I was thinking something similar um to Miss Meyers that the new person would spend time with the chair and vice chair um to give them a history of our work um how we've been doing that work um just anything you feel that they might need to know. And I think that's also an opportunity because everybody's different, right? Everybody might have a different question about something different and you all could fill them in with

028that. It also might be helpful to have a uh established buddy, somebody who's been on, you know, in the group um during its tenure and who could sort of be there uh as a coach for them as they get acclimated. >> That is such a fabulous idea. I absolutely love that. All right. Are there any others? All right. So, I I have taken notes. I will also follow up with Miss Vickery to make sure I I caught what I needed to to catch and then I will follow up with Johnson. >> I'm sorry. I think uh Tangela has her hand raised. >> Oh, I thought that would might have been that she didn't put it down. >> Yeah. Missed the leftover. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. Um, so I will um I will then

029get with Miss Johnson to see how can we flesh this out a a little bit more and then um get something in place for everyone. All right. So the next item on our agenda is new business. Um, so Miss Patrick, I do have an item here, but I want to yield the floor to you so that you can bring your item back up so that we can do our vote. Awesome. Thank you. Um, I just wanted to make a motion um for DAB to authorize one or more representatives of our body to prepare and deliver testimony either orally or written at the public hearing on September 17th for the capital improvement program. Let me know if you need me to repeat Miss Vickory. Okay, this is what I captured. Um, if I if I got

030it incorrect, please let me know. It has been properly moved that DAP authorizes one or more members to prepare either elect I think you said electronic oh written to prepare written >> or oral public testimony for the capital improvement program to prioritize accessibility. >> Yes, essentially. Yep. >> Okay. Do we have a second? >> A second. >> All right. So, it has been properly moved and seconded. I'm trying to get back into the swing of things. Um, are are there any questions? Do we have any discussion on this item? >> There you go. You got it. Any discussion? >> Thanks. All right. Hearing no questions, Miss Vickery, could you please take a vote? Sorry, I was just making sure I had the um Okay. Oh, give me one second, guys. And I got to flip

031back and forth between my screens. Okay. Make sure I have this correct. >> Yes, Miss Patrick. I'm sorry. Uh Miss Vickory, >> my apologies all. Just wanted to clarify, do we need to discuss who the design might be or the people that we are going to designate to do this before we take the vote? >> H >> I don't think so because I think we're taking a vote to even decide if this is going to be done and then I think there could be discussion further around who would be the persons. And I see Tia, Miss Johnson, excuse me, coming off mute. >> Yes. So the the the motion is to pretty much um bring it up for discussion and then once you all um if it's affirmed um then you can bring it back

032and take it a little a step further as far as selecting who those um members would be um at the CIP um hearing. >> Okay, great. Thank you, Miss Vickery. >> Nope, I'm ready if you guys are. >> I don't see any other any other hands up, so I think we are ready for the vote. >> Okay, Miss Amaya, >> what did you say? Miss >> Miss Amaya >> Chair Blackwell. >> Hi, >> Miss Bowman. >> Hi, >> Miss Burn. Hi, >> Miss Dorsey. Miss Doyle >> Mr. Dwire. >> Hi >> board member. Ake um a boy remember a >> I >> Miss Catrell I >> Miss Torra Meyers I >> Miss Patrick. >> I >> Miss Payne. >> I >> vice chair Smith. >> I >> Miss Vickery. I >> and Miss Winggate Robinson.

033>> I. The motion has passed with a total of 15 in the affirmative, three absent. >> Excellent. And I will just follow up and state I did not state this initially as part of the actual motion, but the date is September 17th. >> You did not, but Miss Patrick did, so it was already on a motion form. >> Great, great, great. Okay. Now, um there was a question um about who the individuals would be. Um part of that motion was one or more members. Do we have anyone interested in participating in the public testimony? Miss Patrick, >> I will share that I do intend to submit and a request um to speak some if I can't do it in person. I do intend to submit. So whether I'm selected to represent this group or not,

034I do plan to submit written testimony. And I think the more the better. So absolutely. Is there anyone else? I know public speaking can be intimidating to some folks, but I think with the right tools and help and encouragement, you can get through it. Miss Vicky, I don't mind as well as long as Miss Patrick saves me a seat. Or board member Brown or board member Oh, good goodness. I'm working on all the names. Olivio and board member Ad >> Aayakay I have we will get it we will get it together here. Awesome. Thank you Miss Vickory U. Miss Patrick real u Miss Blackwell I do see you. Um but let me just ask this quick question. Miss Patrick, um, is this meeting held over Zoom or is it in person? >> I see it's

035I see a Zoom link to join the hearing. So, I'm not sure if those testifying will be invited to do so in person, but I see a Zoom link for the hearing. >> Okay. >> If I may just interject, this is um the hearing is is virtual. >> It's virtual. Okay, great. So, Miss Vickory, you have a front row seat >> from tennis. Yep, you're right. From tennis. From toddler tennis. Yep. >> Awesome. Awesome. Miss Blackwell, um I would like to speak. >> Okay. >> Awesome. >> Yeah. So maybe Miss Blackwell as our chair, perhaps you could be that key person to deliver the um the message from DIAB and then everyone else who's willing to also provide public testimony, it will support um what you will be delivering on our behalf. Would you be

036okay with that? >> Yes. >> Okay, good. Miss Miss Vicky, Vice Chair, I'm willing to submit written testimony then. >> Okay. All right. Fabulous. All right. Is there any additional discussion on this item? Mr. Drier, >> um just as a question, would you like us to submit our written testimony um to a particular person in the group or um does any of that need to be reviewed or should we just do that individually and on our own? >> I think that that's a fabul fabulous question. Um, and Miss Johnson, I'm going to defer to you to part for part of this question. I believe that it's okay for everyone who is doing written testimony that they handle it on their own. But any information that will be submitted for um Miss Blackwell's write up, I

037think we probably need to submit all of that via email and then we'll consolidate it. Let everybody review what the um what the written portion will look at look like um before she provides the verbal. Um Miss Patrick, >> I also wanted to share for Mr. Dwire and everyone else, they are accepting both written and video testimony and it may be emailed to testimony pgcps.org. That's testimonyps.org. So if you are are not a writer or you know you prefer to speak which I really appreciate that universally designed opportunity to share um you can submit a video testimony as well. >> Awesome. Thank you for sharing that Miss Patrick. Um Miss Johnson, not Miss Johnson, Miss Vickery, I'm sorry. I just want to remind the group that um anything we are providing for Miss Blackwell again

038with the opens meeting act it wouldn't have to be you know if you even if you submitted it for everyone to see it would have to be a submission in and then maybe the conversation and correct me if I'm wrong Miss um Johnson and Miss Adeline um it would just be the chair and the vice chair who could correspond back with the person am I correct for because we want to make sure that we're not having too much discussion on email, >> right? So, we do want to avoid a quorum which for this group is nine uh members. So, as long as it's less than nine um it wouldn't uh subject itself to um having to make the discussion now public. So, as long as it's it's under nine um on on that um that

039for that. Yeah. Okay, thank you. So, I'll Oh, Miss Patrick, >> I'm sorry. Last thing. I can wait until after you, Miss Smith. >> I was just going to state. Um, well, maybe I have a question, Miss Johnson. If a document is created on the Google Drive and members are providing their input, is that allowed? So when it's open to all members, so it it that would probably lend itself to now the quorum would probably be triggered potentially. So, if it was like a situation where when you all had your um subcommittees and you had designated members, four or five, that wasn't an issue because we knew how many, excuse me, members were working um in that area. But for um something like um wanting to submit documents, you're opening to the entire group, that

040would have to possibly be made public. Yeah, that would have to be made public because you're looking at um reaching a quorum. So, I don't know if you want to create um I don't know if it would be a subcommittee or just have designated members like three or four agree to okay, let's work on the language or what we want to submit. Um you could do it that way and that way stay under that um quum. Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you for that suggestion, Miss Patrick. >> So, you could I'm sorry, um, vice chair, if I could just further and so if you want to make a motion to form a group for that, and I know it's coming up quick, so this would have to be probably done pretty quickly because the hearing

041is on the 17th. So, if you wanted to make a group um, have an established group that would work on, uh, language to submit on beha behalf of DAB, could do that. >> Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you, >> Mhm. >> Miss Patrick, >> I just wanted to share that you do need to sign up to speak at the hearing. So, Miss Blackwell will need to complete the form um of which Miss Blackwell, I just forwarded to you via email. >> Thank you. >> Okay, great. So, I move that >> vice chair >> Oh, Miss Vicky, >> I'm so sorry. I wanted to stop you before the motion because >> if we already have subcommittees formed, wouldn't it be best that our subcommittees can work on those statements in the format of our subcommittees currently

042and provide that for Miss Blackwell? >> That's actually an excellent idea. So provide any feedback as it relates from the contacts of those specific um subgroups, subcommittees. Yeah, because we we technically we have a facility subcommittee already. We have um a policy 1700 which does tackle some of the accessibility things as well. And then we also have hiring um and employment which also tackles kind of the um uh reasonable accommodation requests which would some of those would fall under any physical um and accessibility around buildings. So, just wondering if we want to um do that versus a whole new team and trying to get calendars together. Um and vice chair, Miss Adeline has her hand for recogn recognition. >> Okay. Thank you and thank you so much for that suggestion. Um I personally do like

043it. Miss Adeline. >> Hi. Um I'm trying to see if I understand the question. Are you guys trying to have one document and everyone shares the input in that document? >> Yeah, that was the initial thought. So that because this um testimony is coming from this group and miss is being delivered by Miss Blackwell, we wanted to give the group members an opportunity to provide their input. >> Okay. To answer the question, yes, they can. Once a discussion doesn't start happening within that document, everyone could enter the input. Okay. >> Yeah. Act is violated once a discussion start happening. Understood. Okay. All right. So maybe we can do a combination of the two. Um and I believe this does not require a motion. um that the three subcommittee groups um if you guys have any

044initial feedback to share on this subject for capital improvement planning um please input it inside of the Google doc. I will send out a link for you all to access it. Um, and then if any additional members have any input, by all means, put that put your comments inside of the document and then we will help um solidify that written response from Miss Blackwell. All right, any other feedback or questions, guys? All right, hearing none. All right, continuing on with new business. Um, I have a item just for myself. Um, Miss Bowman, um, this may be a question specifically for you. um in different settings. I have heard that um PGCPS um how do I want to word this is under special education I guess is under um I'm trying to be careful with my

045words. Let me ask this question. Miss Bowman, is there a compliance report that's publicly available that DEAP can review um as it relates to um MSDE's concerns with special education and PGCPS? >> Yes. So, we are under special ed corrective action for two reasons. one is due to special ed vacancies across the system over the last um two years and the other concern is an uptick of our state complaints. Uh we did provide a presentation to the board of education that is I know we don't use board docs um but I can get a link to that so you all can see that presentation um that was just presented uh to the board of education. >> Okay, great. And that will kind of detail just some data, the data points that the state looked at

046um based on um our vacancies as well as our complaint concerns and an uptick around those just the overall number um of uh vacancies. Well, complaints that were a lot of them were addressed to the inability to implement IEP services as a result of our vacancies. Um so that PowerPoint is publicly available. >> Awesome. Okay, great. Thank you. You're welcome. >> Um it was that one. Okay. And so then the next item is related to um DAB having a retreat. So at our last meeting, I think actually this was in the May meeting if I'm not mistaken. This topic had came up and tonight I would like to make a motion. Um, but before I give the motion, um, I think it's just important as an advisory group that we have this dedicated space for

047us to reflect, strategize, um, be in one as it relates to our priorities. Um, because again, we're advising and we're advising on three key areas. Um, so when we come to this Saturn, you know, we have an agenda. It's very specific. um we haven't had this opportunity to really connect um with one another. So I would like to move that DAB um host a retreat during the 2025 2026 school year. Is there a second? >> Britney Patrick second. It has been properly moved and seconded that DAB holds a retreat for its members during the 2025 2026 school year. Is there any discussion? Miss Blackwell, I would I did offer for the retreat. We just need to um think about a day on the calendar and everyone take a vote on it at least three dates

048and then people you can pick the date you know the most the date that's picked that's the one way to go with >> okay so propose at least three dates okay Miss Bowman >> um I just want to bring up Phil facilities use and where the meeting may take place if there's if it's depending on when it takes place like if it's over the weekend even at a school building. Um there is um a budget that will need to be associated with the use of facilities. So I'm not sure um if if DOP has a budget, but that's just something that we want to make sure that we look into depending on the date. If it's of course during the school um day or evening um that could be different, but we do have to

049pay um if we're using school properties on the weekends, we do have to pay our custodian. there are some costs associated with facilities use. So I just wanted to bring that up for the good of the group. >> Thank you for that which that has caused me to think of a question. So board member Brown um because I just came from a retreat with the other advisory group and um it was funded by the board of education. Um >> so that actually was a donated space from um the Durant Center. Um and so that is a possibility that they would be able to um donate that space again for us. Um we would just have to inquire and ask um you know as a board member I can say that's a part of this group.

050I know um libraries are also great opportunities. Um, I think there might be like a I think it's between$25 and $35 to have a room for um a certain amount of time, but I don't know what the max amount of time of that is. Um, and so of course we want to always just minimize costs as much as possible. Um, and if you guys need assistance in that, I can definitely um help with that. But because of the good relationships we do have around the community, that is an opportunity um that we could probably ask to see if we can have that space donated again. >> Okay. And could if this motion does pass, could you um could you look into what could I guess the question is as it relates to food cuz I

051don't think the food was donated. I think that that may have been funded by the board. Would you be willing to check into that for us to see if the board would be willing to fund um fund our our meal? >> Yeah, I can certainly look into that and what that looks like. I think time um is going to be the amount of people um that are going to be there is going to be really important um because we don't want to buy a whole bunch of food and then not enough people show up or not enough food and all these people show up. Um, so once we get an accurate somewhat accurate estimate, I know that's like battling words, but um, we'll make a better decision on on what that price price tag looks

052like and see if we could do that. >> All right, sounds good. Miss Blackwell, did you forget to put your hand down? for a place. Um I that would be hopefully be convenient for everyone off the belt. Um where people can easily get to it. Um the only thing I need is a date. >> Okay. So physical city location. Okay. Okay. >> Thank you, Miss Burn. Sorry about that. Um, yeah, I would be in support. I love the idea of a um, retreat. However, uh, I I I would like for also possibly us to consider um, doing a meeting in person. I think that could also bring about just some of what what you're talking about with the retreat. Like, you know, there is a difference in actually talking and communicating in person versus virtually.

053Again, I'm all in favor. Um but I do know that this group since we are still relatively new and finding our way and waiting for you know feedback and information back from the board on a number of things. Um I would um say that if we if we cannot may maybe a baby step would be to do a meeting um in person and then you know continue to try to plot towards a retreat. Um but yeah for I don't want to say you know don't throw the baby out with bath water but I cannot think of a different expression right now. >> So there we go. totally understand. And I will say um when I participated in this retreat a few weeks ago, one of the members basically embraced how good it was to feel

054people around and how it just changed um perception is not the word, but it just really changed how we interacted with one another simply because we were in the physical presence. So I definitely understand um what you're saying there. So maybe Miss Johnson um in my participation on these advisory councils with the district, they have always been virtual. So can you tell me is would there be an opportunity for us to have a um session in person? I know because it's a public meeting, technology I think will be one of the key things that we have to make sure that we have access to. Okay, a great question. Um, I think I'm going to defer that to my uh to to Cindy if she's still on on the call. Uh, Cindy, did you happen to

055catch Vice Chair uh Smith's question regarding having a public meeting in person public meeting? I believe that's what they're asking. >> I'm sorry, Cindy. I didn't catch it. Yes, it can be done. >> Oh, it can be done. Okay, great. All right, Miss Burn, we're getting some traction. All right, Mr. Dyer, >> I know we haven't voted on the motion yet, and we're probably not in a position where we want to just start naming off these different places, but I think we're sort of thinking about where we can go. So, maybe this bodess well once we vote for the motion. Um, I went to the grand uh reopening from Capital Improvements of the Howard B. Owen Science Center uh behind Duval High School. Um, I think that is a very very beautiful location. Um, that

056could definitely uh take care of what we need in in that location. Um, I could also offer up the Buoie Center for the Performing Arts, which is also um a PGCPS owned property. it happens to be where I work. So, I don't know if there's any sort of conflict um of interest where with that, but I just wanted to uh put those two things out there. Uh I think this is a great idea to have a retreat. Gives us an opportunity to speak a little more casually, a little more off the cuff, uh without the pressure of the cameras being on us and it being a public forum. So, I think it's a good idea and it's also good for the soul to break bread with people. So, >> absolutely. >> Thank you. Thank you

057for sharing that. Is there any additional feedback or thoughts? >> All right. Hearing none, Miss Vickery, could you please take the vote? Miss Amaya, I have my note. Board member Aay. >> I >> Yes, >> Miss Blackwell. Chair Blackwell. >> Hi, >> Miss Bowman. >> Hi, >> Miss Burn. >> Hi, >> Miss Dorsey. Miss Doyle, >> Mr. Dwire. >> Hi, >> Miss Catrell. >> I >> Miss Meyers. >> I'm sorry, Miss Tori Meyers. >> You're fine. I >> Miss Patrick. I >> Miss Payne. >> I >> vice chair Smith. >> I >> Miss Vickery. I >> and Miss Winggate Robinson. >> I >> um the motion carries 15 in the affirmative, three absent. >> Excellent. So, um, as far as next steps, um, I will have a discussion with board member Brown, um, to see

058what a budget may or may not look like and then, um, see how we can start planning from there. All right, I think this will be the last item that I have to do a motion on this evening. Um so as everyone know we have three subcommittees for this advisory board and because we are moving into a new school year um I need to know if our current chairs are willing to stay in place. Um so hold on I don't have them all listed here. Miss um Vicky, I may need your help because I before I like to make sure that my motion is is clear. Um can you tell me, Miss Payne, can you tell me the name of that subcommittee? >> Uh recruitment and hiring. >> Recruitment and hiring. Miss Bowman, could you

059tell me the name of yours? I think it was school construction and accessibility of facilities. Okay. Thank you. All right. So, I move to discuss the subcommittee chair's appointments as it relates to anyone willing to remain or step down. We have three subcommittees. Miss Bowman is the chair of school construct school construction and accessibility of facilities. Miss Payne is the chair of recruitment and hiring and Miss Patrick is the chair of policy 1700. I would like to know if the current chairs Oh, actually I have a question. I'm sorry. I just put a motion on the floor, but I I have a procedural question. Um Miss um Miss Johnson, this is a motion, but does this need to be a motion? I guess is my question. Well, if you want to discuss um those who

060are interested, I I guess it's more so you wanted to um to form a discussion as to whether or not there's anyone interested in in retaining their chair positions for their subcommittees or or stepping down. But I don't necessarily it may not require a roll call vote. Um um well the question well I'm sorry. So you want to you want to have a motion to discuss whether the current chairs um if they want to remain if they want to have the opportunity to remain a chair of their subcommittee or step down and then once you had a discussion I don't think like the outcome of it needs to be voted on if that makes sense. Okay, understood. All right, so let me restate my motion, guys. Um, the chair, the vice chair moves that we

061discuss whether or not the subcommittee chairs would like to remain or step down from the subcommittees. Again, Miss Bowman, school construction and accessibility of facilities. Miss Payne, recruitment and hiring. Miss Patrick, policy 1700. Do I have a second? Um, Miss Payne, is it a question or you second it? >> Yes. I was going to ask a a question. So, >> okay. Do I have a second? >> Yes. I said I second. >> Second. >> Oh, okay. Great. Thank you guys. Um, so any discussion, Miss Payne? Um maybe just uh some thoughts about so when we established these subcommittees we were pretty clear about our charge right we were working on the recommendations we knew what we were doing. I'm not quite sure going forward what the expectations of the committees might be. So if you

062have some thoughts around that that that might be helpful. I don't have a response for you and the reason why is because we have not received the feedback from the board of education. I think this is a very fair question to ask um and it may not be applicable to each subcommittee. Um so I I I I get the concern about making a commitment but not knowing how what you're actually committing to. um how you how you may be how we may be progressing forward. I will say is I will say no I cannot say that I I don't have an answer. Miss um Miss Brown chair me or board member Brown do you have any feedback there? >> Uh I do not have feedback at the moment but can provide it at a later

063date. Okay, Miss Payne, what I can share with you that I am knowledgeable of um in our October meeting, we are planning to have board member Moss attend so that we can have robust discussion about the recommendations for board policy 1700. Um it doesn't mean that our charge will be changed immediately because that has to go through the formal process. Um, yeah. So, that's the only feedback that I can share right now. Um, and I don't know how this affects the motion. That's I guess that's kind of why I was wondering. Do we need to have a motion with this? Um, are there any other questions or feedback, Miss Burn? Um I'm just hopefully it's this is relevant to what we're talking about, but um am I under the is my assumption correct that we're

064kind of in a holding pattern until we have that feedback and decisions from the board on the recommendations that were submitted, right? Because that feedback drives what we do. But but maybe I'm maybe maybe I'm not looking at this the right way. >> I believe you are looking at it the right way. Um I I think it's dependent upon each work group. So, I sit on the school construction and accessibility of facilities and I know that we had a working document um that we were looking at and we've received some feedback. So, I think that there will be an opportunity for that sub commmittee to still progress forward with this work. um but other subcommittees they may not that that their work moving forward may be dependent upon the feedback from the from the recommendations

065report. So fair another fair question Sarah but I do think it's dependent upon each subcommittee. Okay. And is there just to be cognizant and respectful of everyone's time, right? Is there a a framework or a right a timeline in which we think we might get that feedback? Um because I was on like board policy 1700 committee and there were a number of things. One, you know, ranging from the name of the committee itself to um you know, to the substance of what what we cover. And so that feedback is really determinative of what we do. Um, and I really Yeah. And that was Yeah, I know everybody's doing their thing. It would just be helpful to have a sense of are we talking next month? >> Are we talking November? So, um, when we started

066the meeting, I did mention that we anticipate having the feedback by our our October meeting. Board member Brown, if that feedback is available before then, um, would we be able to distribute it to um, DAB? Yeah, I mean I think that um obviously the board is going to take these recommendations very seriously and so uh we would like to have the deadline extended for the October meeting because we do want to bring um Robin Welsh also into the meeting, but I also just want to make sure that um we still honor board policy 1700. We still have work to do as as a committee, right? There is still work to do. So, we're not going to just because this is not being said right now, we do still want to make sure that we focus

067on what the board policy says and how we can move forward um to making sure that our special education students are getting are having the facilities and the things that they need um moving forward. So, we still have a policy that we do fall under that we still have to abide by. So, I just want to make sure that nobody feels like we can't do anything until these recommendations get done. There's still work to do. Um, and so I want everyone to be encouraged. That's all. >> Sure. And I I appreciate that. I will just say as someone myself and how my own brain thinks and sometimes it is hard to switch gears once you're going like full throttle in a certain area. Um, and so that's why I'm just uh, yeah, just kind of

068reiterating that having that feedback. If things are staying as is, fantastic. We will carry on. But if we're to get feedback like 3 months from now that it's changed, like that's um, that's going to make a difference to everyone's life and their work and their time that they're putting into this committee, right? 100%. >> So, I would just yeah, just having having a time frame that we can all kind of work towards and respect would be great and I know everybody appreciates that. So, thank you. >> Yeah, 100%. And just know you all, myself and board member Alibo and um the new student member of the board, we are working tirelessly to advocate for you all. So, I don't want you all to ever think that the work that you all are doing is going

069unnoticed. We take this very seriously. Um, and look, we all have responsibilities and the fact that you all are even on this call speaks volume um to your dedication to the work. And so we would not be doing our jobs um if we if we did not listen to the recommendations and if we did not ensure that you you all will get the feedback that you needed to move forward and to make sure that PGCPS scholars continue to be successful and be the catalyst and the example for other communities that are struggling with the same thing. So please know your work does not go unnoticed. Um, we want to make sure that we always have communication that is open and the feedback that you all uh gave to us, we do take it very seriously

070and so we don't want to respond back in haste. We want to make sure that you all have the vital information and the subject matter experts who are doing this and who understand um the weight and everything else that goes with it. And so please be patient with us. Uh there's a saying hurry up and wait. Um, that's another those are other conflicting words I use today, but just know that we definitely take it very seriously and as soon as we find out the information, we will not withhold it. We will definitely make sure that you all get that information. Thank you. >> Awesome. Thank you. And as I was just listening to the discussion, I think it might be worthwhile um for you all to consider. We're in legislative season. So, if there's anything

071under those three specific areas that may impact new legislation or revisions to current legislation, maybe um that that could be something that the subcommittees consider focusing on right now while we're waiting to hear back from the board. So, I'll just put that out there. Um, Miss Adeline. >> Yeah. I have a question in reference to the charge. Are you guys trying to get the charge for 1700 or the charge for the subcommittees? >> I I think I think we know what our charge is. The concern is that we have made recommendations and with without knowing how the school system is planning to move forward, it impacts how we move forward. Um because some of those recommendations may need to or based on the feedback, they may need to be fleshed out a little bit more

072or researched a little bit more. Um I know that we're still waiting. one subcommittee is still waiting on a response for a data request. So I think we understand the charge. We just want to make sure that we're moving accordingly. So again, thinking about strategic priorities. What is it that you know what is what's the focus area right now? What's the feedback from the school system so that this this advisory group knows how to move forward. >> Okay, I got you. All right. Thanks. >> All right. I thought I saw another hand. Um, is there any other discussion? All right. So, I guess the question is I will I will I will start with Miss Patrick. Would you like to remain as the chair for board policy 1700? >> Yes. >> Okay. Great. Thank you.

073Miss Payne, would you like to remain chair of the recruitment and hiring subcommittee? >> Yes. >> Great. Miss Bowman, I know you have a lot of work on your plate right now. Would you like >> I was going to say yes, but I may also have one of my directors as my backup. >> Great, great, great. Awesome. So, that made this work um very easy. right now. I really do appreciate the the commitment um that we have with this group. Um it makes for a lighter load. Um and it I mean it truly shows how we're dedicated to the subject area. Let me get back to my agenda. Oh, maybe I need to ask this question. Miss Johnson, do I need to ask whether or not there are any objections with everybody remaining in their

074in their spot? >> So, you could ask if there's um any additional topics. You look at the script >> the questions in there. >> Proceed from there. Do you see that on page four? >> Amy, that's where I'm at. All right. Yes, I see it. Thank you. Are there any additional topics anyone would like to bring forward for discussion? Miss Terrain Meyers. >> Hi. I'm just going to um mention this topic because I know a lot of you have probably seen it. The uh Baltimore project um and it talks about um some of the missteps uh when it comes to the dedicated aid issue. I'm sure there are others that they've uncovered. Um but I remember us talking about um in one of our committees recruitment and hiring. But I guess my comment is this.

075A lot of what we do is rooted in law. And so I know that we make recommendations, but it's awkward to me to make recommendations to tell the school board to follow the law. So our recommendations should be suggestions on how they can accomplish that following the law because that Baltimore project pointed out some of the things that happen at schools. um dedicated aids are designated in children's IEPs, yet they don't exist for them. And so solving that kind of problem is kind of what I'm more interested in and happy to participate in any discussion about it. Um and selfishly, yes, I I have kids with IEPs and and the struggle is real. Um so I I just wanted to make that comment. >> Thank you for sharing that. Um, and I heard two things.

076I I I personally don't think that this advisory group is in place for us to tell them to follow the law. I mean, that is the that is the ex expectation. I think when there are compliance issues or concerns, I think our role is to understand the root cause and provide advisement from there. So that would be my initial reaction to it, but I totally agree. Um I totally agree with what you what you stated, Miss Winggate Robinson. I had a question. Last year we had talked about uh putting something together to like share with schools to like introduce our group or give them more information on it. And I was thinking like back to school nights are starting up at school and it's probably too late this year maybe for it but should be

077maybe plan for the end of next year preparing something for back to school night so that we can have something just while it's fresh in my mind. I I'm so glad that you brought this to the table. Vice >> chair, >> I'm sorry if I can if I may just kind of interject. Um I'm sorry who just spoke just was that uh Robinson. >> She that could actually be a motion. Um if that's you being as an action item she >> Okay, >> that will need to be stated as a motion. >> Gotcha. >> So she wants to restate it. >> Um >> before she put a motion before she if it if it does become a motion. Um, I just wanted to state that last school year there was a document that was issued

078to the principles. What is unclear to me is whether or not it was further distributed. Um, I can tell you as a parent of two scholars at two different schools, I did not receive the information. So if we were to have any type of communication that go forward, I think board member Brown, Miss Johnson, I don't know what the communication process looks like, but if it was a barrier, if there was a hiccup in that process, I think that has to be addressed before we, you know, put any more efforts in this. I think it it needs to get out there that this group was revamped. um even known about I think if we either we even need to make known the good work that we was able to accomplish in those few months. Um

079but if it's just going to stop in a in an email box, that's not the that may not be the best effective way to communicate this this particular group. So, I wanted to react to that really quick. Um and Miss Windgate Robinson, let me ask you because I do see some other hands. Do you intend to do a motion? >> I can. I have to remember the how to do it properly, though. >> Okay. We can help you out. All right. Um, Miss Miss Johnson, I need some guidance. Do I need to get the motion first or do I need to continue um taking feedback? >> Really, let's get her motion first and then you could open it for discussion. >> Okay. All right. So, Miss Windgate Robinson, um, when you open up the motion,

080you want to say, "I move that." And then whatever it is that you would like us to do. >> Sorry, I am I've been sick. I'm getting better, though. Um, I move that uh at the end of this school year, we start to prepare a document to share with the schools for back to school night at the beginning of the I guess 2026 2027 school year to inform them of our group and the work that we've done so that they have more information. >> Okay, great. Is there a second? >> A second. All right. It has been properly moved and seconded that DAB prepares a document by the end of the school year to inform the school system about DAP and the work we have accomplished. Is there any discussion? All right. So, Miss Vickery,

081um, your hand is still up. Is it related to this particular item? All right, you have the floor. It was my understanding um throughout last school year that it was discussed that we were supposed to um become partners with our board member um so that we could, you know, find out more about the schools that they represent and the areas that they represent and the things that are going on so that we could um advocate for those things within our district. Um, so I took that charge to heart and I am connected to my district 8 board for member. Um, she lets me know when what the families are thinking about. She attends most of the back to school nights and she has her um monthly chat and shoes or coffee with a board member,

082whatever you want to call it. Um, and when things pop up, she actually texts me or she'll email me. So, while I don't disagree with this, I also thought because we don't necessarily have individual budgets um that we were supposed to connect to our board member and kind of that was our person to speak with and our person to get that information from as well as our person to you know when they have their community meetings to attend if we can. Um, so I I'm I'm six one way, half a dozen another. We're using all the colloquial terms tonight. Um, so yes, I'm six one way, half a dozen another. No, I I think I I'm grateful that you pointed that out and that actually reminded me that last school year we also had discussed

083creating like talking points um as we have these discussions so that you know it's one voice of DAB. Um but I don't think we ever was we we didn't have an opportunity um to get that document created. So, that may be something else that we want to consider working on. Miss Payne. >> Uh, thank you, Vice Chair. I just wanted to share a concern that I have. Um, not that I don't understand it because I understand the conflict of scheduling. When we first started DAP, we all had input into when our meetings would be. um with this schedule we did not and I know that we were trying to balance a lot of things. So already I know there are several meetings that conflict with my CCAC meeting so I'm not going to be there

084and I just want to you know note that already I know that and um that concerns me because I I'd love to be in both places but I can't. So, it's more of a comment than anything else. And if going forward, if the group could have just a heads up input, it might be helpful because I might have been able to maybe reschedu some of those to be able to make these. >> Fair enough. So, uh, Miss Payne, I do want to react to that, but I want to hold the comment because of the motion that's on the floor. >> Absolutely. >> Okay, great. Miss Patrick, >> this is unrelated to the motion. I just want to share that I do have to log off at 7:45. So >> Okay. >> All right. So, um

085is there any additional feedback or comments related to um uh preparing a document by the end of the school year related to um information on DAB? All right. hearing. Uh, Miss Miss Vickery, could you take a vote? Sorry. Give me one second. Um, my family is texting me from the other room. Uh, okay. I am ready. Um, Miss Amaya, board member Aay. >> I Okay. Chair Blackwell. >> Hi, >> Miss Bowman. >> Hi, >> Miss Burn. >> Hi, >> Miss Dorsy. Miss Doyle, >> Mr. Dwire. >> Hi, >> Miss Catrell. >> I >> Miss Torra Meyers. >> I >> Miss Patrick. >> I >> Miss Smith. >> I >> Miss Payne. Hi, >> Miss Vickery. I'm abstaining. And Miss Winggate Robinson. >> I. >> The motion carries with 14, one distinction, and three absent. Okay,

086great. Motion has been adopted. Um, Miss Payne, so in the May, I think it was the May meeting. It was either the May the May or June meeting. Um, we had all agreed to meeting on the third Monday and as Dia, Miss Johnson, I need your help here. I think what ends up happening was that there was a conflict on the schedule um with the use of Zoom and we we as in the exact board had to um decide on other dates that this group could meet because of that conflict. >> We did not come back. We did not solicit for feedback from DAP. Um because I I don't know what the because I I don't know if if Miss Johnson had to get those dates keyed in or what, but I know what came

087to us was that there was a conflict. So, Miss Johnson, do you want to add any information there? >> Yeah. So from my if my recollection serves me correctly um I believe there was an early vote as to when um the date and the time because I know I believe the very first meeting of DAP was held at like maybe 5 or 5:30 and it was noted that that was too early of a time for most members and so I recall there being excuse me I may have to and it may be in some some previous meeting minutes that you all wanted to or agreed to I want to say the third third or fourth Tuesday. I think it was the third Tuesday of the month at 6:00 p.m. And that's been pretty much what

088we've tried to go with. However, as Vice Chair Smith noted, the board has multiple standing committees and other um advisory groups and we all pretty much use the same account to host uh these meetings. So, there does become a a a major conflict in the scheduling. Uh, so sometimes we may not always be able to meet on the designated day that most members can meet on, but I think for the most part the third t the third Tuesdays were chosen. There's a couple times in the year, maybe two or three times where you're not going to meet on the third Tuesday because maybe there was a holiday or uh there was a conflict. But for the most part, it is tight. um scheduling these meetings, we have to work around other committees that use the

089same link that we use to launch the meetings via Zoom. So that's pretty much um but I do recall early on there was a vote and it seems like most of the group had felt that the third Tuesday at 6 p.m. worked for most of the group. And I do want to also if if I if I may, vice chair, that in uh board policy 1700, it does state that members have to uh be present at least 50% of the meetings. So I mean, of course, I know none of you want to want to miss any meetings, but even if you miss two or three, it's not going to be held against you. Uh but if you miss more than 50%, then yeah, you may have an issue there. But as long as you attend

090at least 50% of the meetings, >> thank you. I'm sorry. I I was just >> Thank you for sharing that, Miss Johnson. So, I will say that I do recognize Miss Payne's concern and as a parent of special needs children, I ideally want to be able to attend the CCAC feedings myself. So, Miss Payne, if I may ask, would you be willing to share with DAB the dates of the CCAC meeting so that Chair Blackwell and myself can take this and have a discussion with Miss Johnson so that we could see where the misalignment is and then come back to this group and decide on new dates. Would that be okay? Well, well, uh, thank thank you, uh, Vice Chair, uh, Smith and and for the discussion. And I want to be clear. I I

091it's not a criticism. I just want to point out that there will be a conflict. And if I'm not here, I don't want it to be, you know, the lack of commitment, a perception about lack of commitment. Um I think that going forward the next set of meetings maybe let's do that coordination upfront but I'm not suggesting that you uh that we try to change these. I think it's too difficult to try to go back and do that. Um but I I just want to make sure that the conflict is known upfront. That that was more my point. >> Gotcha. Understood. But I do think it's equally important that we avoid the conflicts especially in light of knowing the priorities um of the district right now. So there may be things that said in um

092in your meetings that may impact what we we are discussing here in DAP and I would like to hear it firsthand and not have to go to a recording. I'll just say it like that. So yes, if there is an opportunity that we can make adjustments, I I would be I would be for that. >> Okay. Well, vice chair, I I will send you all those um dates um at your request. >> Okay. Great. Thank you, Miss Johnson. Yeah. And just uh to that end, um I would just kind of suggest that perhaps it would be a good idea maybe around the last meeting or two for the school year, maybe you all might want to uh discuss the meeting dates going into the into the next year. So that way we could try to

093avoid uh this this uh conflict. Again, you know, I have to say it is a tight it's very tight trying to work around other um committees. So unfortunately, you know, uh we'll try to do the best that we can, but just keep that in mind. There's other meetings that are happening throughout the week as well. Um and also I had something else to add and um I don't remember, but that's pretty much what I wanted to add. Okay. All right. Thank you. Any other discussion? All right, Miss Payne, thank you for bringing that up. That is all for new business. Um we are pretty much at the end of this meeting. Um so I thank you all for taking the time out to um attend tonight. We have a lot of work ahead of us

094even though we don't have the feedback just yet, but I I know that we're going to um have some fruitful discussions this school year. So, the chair would like to inform the public that the next virtual meeting of the disability issues advisory board is scheduled for September 30th, 2025. Please continue to visit the Prince George's County Board of Education website for meeting details and any updates. So again, thank you all for your valuable contributions. Miss Johnson, do you have a question? Okay. Thank you all for your valuable contributions. To our viewers, thank you for watching and for your continued support. There being no further business, the time the time now is 7:46 and the September 9th, 2025 meeting of the Disability Issues Advisory Board is hereby adjourned. Have a wonderful evening everyone. >> Thank you.

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