Board of Education Disability Issues Advisory Board Meeting June 9, 2025

001Good evening and welcome everyone to our June 9th, 2025 um disability issue advisory board meeting. I am Stephanie Blackwell um advisory board chair. Thank you for joining us this evening. Um for those who are able to observe the meeting is being recorded and you can access the PGCPS YouTube channel for viewing. Um, Miss Rickery, can you please do roll call? Yes. Oh, where did my document go? Okay, Miss Amaya. Chair Blackwell, present. Miss Bowman, present. Miss Burn present. Can you hear me? Now we can. Okay. Miss Dorsy present. Miss Doyle. Present. Mr. Dwire. Present. Mr. Jungo. Miss Catrell, Miss Meyers, present. Miss Payne, present. Miss Patrick, Vice Chair Smith, present. And and I'm so sorry to interrupt, but I need Miss Johnson to confirm that we are live because it states that we are in

002a practice session. No, it might be your screen frozen. We have live on I have live on my screen. Okay, we're live. Okay, maybe my screen is frozen. Thank you. No problem. Miss Vickery, I am present. and Miss Winggate Robinson. Okay. Um we have a quorum of 10 with total pres 10 total present. Okay. Okay. With a quorum present, the disability advisy board will meeting will come to order. Um to answer Miss um Smith, you have your hand up. Oh, right hand. Okay. Thank you. Um, in adoption to June 9th meeting agenda, if there is no objection, the rising board shall adapt the June 9th, 2025 a meeting agenda. Has everyone had a chance to review the agenda prior to the meeting? So, we shall move on. um to 2.2. Um chair, excuse me, if

003I may interrupt. You need to let the you need to state that there's being no objections. Um you see that line that part that is okay. If we have no objections, we should um accept the agenda as written. Is there any objections? With no objections, we will move on. Um, that was 2.1. We move into two. Hold on one second. Okay. Um, we're moving on to 3.0. Approval of the minutes. Approval of April 8th me u meeting minutes. If there's no corrections If there's no corrections to the minute meetings for April 8th. Yes, Miss Vickery chair. Oh, I'm sorry. I was going to say this actually should be May May 20th. May 20th. Okay. My correction, Miss Johnson. No, I was going to say the same thing. It's okay. I was just going by my

004my notes. I'm sorry. Approval of the I stand corrected. Approval of May 20th M meeting minutes. If there are Is there any corrections that need to be made to the agenda? Yes, Miss Meyers. Hi, Madam Chair. Thank you. Um I've read the minutes and was just a question about the list of attendees um during the roll call. It does not include myself or Mr. Dwire and we were present at that meeting. Okay. There should that needs to be um corrected within the minute meetings. Miss Vickery. Yes. Um Okay. Go ahead. Are you Miss Myers? Are you talking about the meeting minutes or are you talking about the roll call? So at part of the roll call is in the meeting minutes and it shows who the attendees were that were present during the roll call

005who was absent and Mr. Dwire and myself are not reflected there. However, we are mentioned later on in the text. Okay. If I'm uh excuse me chair, may I um interject? Yes, Miss Johnson. So what will happen next is that the minute meetings will be amended um and corrected and then the next board me um wow so the next board meeting is not I mean not the board meeting the next well advisory board meeting won't be until um after the summer in which case um we would need to you all would have to vote on the amended meeting minutes. So um but we will make sure to to have you uh Miss Meyers and Mr. Dwire reflected as attending the May 20th um DAP meeting. Okay, Miss Vicky, you have your hand up? Yeah, I

006do because I'm looking at the May 20th meeting minutes from board docs and their names are there. Okay. So, yeah, I do have my hand up because of that. And I also opened up the May 20th roll call and they're there. Um, Miss Myers, are you sure you're you clicked the May 20th and not the April 8th? No, I have read the ones that Miss Johnson sent to us um attached to the email. Okay. I think she means in the table on May 20th. They're not listed like the table at the top. However, are you seeing them there? Cuz I'm not. I I am, but I also went through I went through it through board docs. So, I'm wondering if our internal document that was sent to us didn't have them, but I'm looking at

007it on my screen from board docs. And Got it. I'm looking at it from the email. Okay. Yeah, I'm not looking at it through the email. I'm looking at it from what's publicly available on board docs right now. That's how I match our agenda. Um, and I see board member Brown is shaking her head. Yes, that they are physically there for the public to view. Um, so I don't know what happened on what was emailed to us because that's not what I'm looking at. But what the public can see, um, their names are listed. It is listed with our chair, vice chair, myself. Then it goes down to Miss Bowman, Miss Patrick, Miss Payne, Miss Burn, Miss Dorsy, Miss Doyle, Mr. Dwire, Miss Meyers, Miss Erica Wingate, and then advisory members absent, Miss Amaya, Mr.

008Jungo, Miss Catrell, and then on the other side in the other column, board lean brown and then board of education office staff president Tia Johnson, Miss Johnson, excuse me. So that's what's publicly available. Um, so I I don't want to amend something that's publicly correct. Okay. If I can interject again, uh I I I um Miss Victory is correct. I do see uh Christopher Dwire and Tanga Myers listed as being present at the meeting. But I think maybe where the issue came in, I'm looking at this under one point, this is under the May 20th uh meeting minutes under 1.2 roll call. I don't see either of their names listed. So maybe that's where the the issue is is coming in. Do you see that? Yeah. Yeah. So we can amend that. Yeah. And I

009might have I I know I kind of think I know what I did with that was because we hadn't gotten to 4.0. But I can amend that because we hadn't even recognized them as new members yet. So you can go ahead. So I can amend it if that's what we want to do. I think I have a question now around Robert Roua order and and and the documents because if we didn't recognize them as new members until 4.0 on the agenda, how is that how would you guys like me to do that? Do we need to have a section underneath roll call where it says new members committed to the advisory board on specific date. Um, and we might have to do we still have quorum. Our quorum is nine because I see vice our

010vice chair just left. Okay. She probably was having technical difficulties because her screen was frozen for a minute. Okay. And what's our quorum number, Miss Johnson? Is it nine? It's nine. Okay. One, two, three, four, five. So, you don't include board member Brown. She's not included. Yep. Nor myself. Yep. Yeah. One. Okay. [Music] So, how good. We're still good to talk. Sorry. Okay. Miss Johnson, how can we address that to have do we need to make a statement to be able to amend that part part where they not included or Well, well, hold on. I still have my question and my question to Miss Johnson is do I need to have a second like I don't want to call it a bullet because it's not bullet but do I need to have a second bolded

011portion to say these were new members joining the board like how is that done um so from what I recall from the last board meeting they both of their names were called during roll call. Yes. So okay um I mean I understand your question but because they were both called and they both responded present okay I think it should be reflected so we can just um amend it and then what will need to happen is um the next board meet the next the next DAT meeting we can um the amended u meetings minutes would have to be posted and again um voted on um without objection if there isn't any other corrections that need to be made. So, I would have to uh re-upload the amended meeting minutes and it would need to be reflected

012in here that um that that section I guess is 1.2 roll call. You could put something about it being amended to include both of the new members as being present. I got you working on it right now. Okay. Okay. Um so under 3.1 versus um being so we having corrections to May 20th minute meetings for that section. Am I correct? So how would I address? Okay. So there will be corrections on the minimum meets for May 20 for 2025. Correct. Okay. So, can I move forward to the report of the CH um report? Yes, you can. Okay. Um so, we moving from 3.1 on to um uh 4.1 4 point 4.1. Um I hope everyone has had um pleasant weekend. As a brief reminder, tonight's meeting marks the final session for 2020 school year. In

013accordance with other regular scheduled DDAP, we will resume meeting on the third Tuesday of each month at 6 PM. Beginning September se 16, 2025. Miss Johnson will be sending out a calendar invitation for next year in the near future. With that, we will now proceed to the next item on our agenda. which is be um report of the subcommittees. Um I would recognize that Rasby board subcommittee leaves from their committee reports. I will can I start with uh Miss Payne? Can I start with you first with um subcommittee on education? uh o on uh yes uh chair blackwell uh for the uh human resources uh committee. Yes. Yeah. Um so the um committee took the feedback from the DIAB and incorporated it into our recommendation and that recommendation was sent forward again today. Uh Miss

014Doyle uh sent that over today and it should reflect all of the feedback that you um gave to us. So that report is final now as written. Okay. Um can Miss um Do can you report out um what was um asked to be added to the committee or um the wording of it where we addressed um last meeting? Hi. I can. There were Do you want me to go through them all? Um, yes, briefly. Okay. Yes, please. Um, okay. So, the first thing we talked about was the dedicated aid position. There was some conversation about whether that was too faith for the purpose of uh of, you know, um, DIAB versus CCAC. We don't want to be stepping on CCA's toes. We went ahead and kept it as um I think it's important um and

015changed some of the language so it's not trying to encroach on idea or fake or anything like that. Um we talked about changing the uh dedicated a position to a permanent position considering making it a half or threequarter time permanent position and that would make it benefits eligible. Um and that's really the main changes within there. Um we did name also that implementing this may require collaboration with CCAP. Um not really any changes with the human resources. Um need to be more creative to hire new talent. Um we talked about administrative procedures regarding reasonable accommodations. Um within this there are some changes that were recommended. Um we we put some deadlines on this. Um for the first 6 months uh PGCPS must bring its response average back down to 30 days and within nine months

016they must bring its maximum down to 30 days. They need to produce quarterly reports as they are working to bring this down and they also need to resume the annual reports that they are required to that already has um that's already in requirements but is not happening. Uh we also named that principles need to be given autonomy as much as possible to implement reasonable accommodation changes while PGCPS is working to um improve its response time. We didn't really have any changes to the social work bullet point. Um, it kind of spoke for itself. Within the parent volunteer recommendation, we um talked about how some of the logistics are complicated and um the the basic change we made is that there should be a backend type of um streamlined process so parents aren't walking around like

017with a receipt like a paper receipt as the proof. There should be something that is um there should be an easy way for schools to talk with the county to um find out who has who has been fingerprinted and approved for volunteering and that's it. Okay. Thank you. Do anyone have any questions they would like to ask Miss Dole and Miss Payne? Uh Miss Mr. Dwire. Hi, Miss Doyle. And uh thank you, chairman. Um Miss Doyle, I took a lot of what you said um with me out of the last uh May 20th meeting. And um I've spoken to some principles in district 5 at a lot of the elementary schools that I've been interacting with recently, um asking them about their volunteer policies and how they uh keep up with that. Um, I know

018that Tulip Grove has a very um, robust volunteer program and I spoke to their acting principal and she told me they've actually assigned someone as the uh, volunteer um, leader of a volunteer committee uh, that they have. I don't know if there's an imalment involved with that where they're paid extra or if that's out of the goodness of her heart, but they do have a program in which there is a coordinator essentially helping to coordinate the uh volunteers. Um, as for um coordinating with second assignment to just maybe begin a conversation about increasing the pay rate or changing the dedicated aids to uh part-time. I did receive some clarity also from Miss Meyers that actually they have to request from human resources a dedicated aid for a student and then a dedicated aid is assigned

019to that student. I think I misspoke or had um a thought that they had to just apply for these temporary positions, but it's actually assigned to them by human resources. Um and Miss Doyle, you're and everyone your concerns are correct that a a temporary employee does not really have the same benefits. They're the lowest part of the totem pole and that's why it's hard to keep a dedicated aid. Um, today I spoke to another principal and she mentioned that when a student is absent and they have a dedicated aid, they do not send that dedicated aid home. They find something else for that dedicated aid to do, whether it is helping other students or whether it is maybe even substituting uh if that's something that's necessary within the school and needed during that time. Um,

020so it really just depends on the community of the school on how the dedicated aids are utilized. One, and there is an IEP that certainly says how they should be um, utilized for each student. And the same with the volunteers. It's really about the community. And I don't want to reiterate what I said back on May 20th, but um I I feel like this was sort of kind of in my wheelhouse and a good way to sort of be able to step into this new role in the advisory board. Um but that's sort of some of the um some of the uh inside information that I received from some of the principles um in district 5. So I just wanted to share some of that information. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Dryer, Miss Bowman, and then

021Miss Vickery. Thank you. I just wanted to clarify for the our dedicated aids, there is a list that's generated to principles um and it's the principles that um does the interview process for the list of dedicated aids or temporary POS temporary folks that is on the list on the hiring list. Um, and so HR does not screen. They do the pre-screening, but then there is a list that actually goes out to our schools for our principles to um, set up interviews and it's ultimately the principal or their design or team that selects what's the best fit for the students individual needs. So of course we provide um, temporary aids or dedicated aids for pretty much four different reasons. So depending on the best fit for the school, the student etc. That's then um the principal

022would make that recommendation back to our um department of HR operations and staffing um to to continue the um on boarding and hiring process. So, I just wanted to make that distinction that they only just do the pre-screening, but it's actually the school that makes the final selection. Thank you, Miss Bowman, Miss Vicky, and then Miss D. Um I was going to also um advise Miss Doyle that I had a chance to speak to some of the schools in my district as well and they do the same thing um that Mr. Dwire said. They have a person um but they use the um their administrative staff in the front office. Um but one thing that they did identify that would might be um best practice is that they have a deadline for when parents or

023guardians or families need to complete their application. that way they're not waiting until the last minute at the end of the school year and and trying to develop this list of volunteers. Um and in particular um um one of the schools has like a cut off in the middle of September or the end of or even the middle of October to make sure that they have everything in um and it kind of gives the parents, you know, a little bit of gas in the tank to get it moving. Thank you, Miss Vickery. Oh, I'm sorry. No, I was just going to say I thought Mr. Doyle had reported that you guys were going to um make a suggestion on getting schools that had pra best practices together. Um so that might be some of the

024schools that you might want to pull in those those ones that identify those practices. Thanks Miss Vicky, Miss Dole, and then Miss Smith, Vice Chair Smith. That was actually just what I was going to say. It sounds like there's some schools that are doing some good things with volunteering. Um, and that would, you know, it would make sense to have them kind of lead the way. I would also, um, I just wanted to touch on the dedicated aid a little bit more. Um, you know, we talked to somebody at a school where they're able to hire four dedicated aids and people like, whoa, how did you do that? Well, the vice principal got the list first thing and just like started making calls and he had to make a hundred calls, literally 100 calls to

025hire four aids and it still didn't cut. They actually needed six in the school. Um, you know, that's that's a lot of time, a lot of effort, a lot of hours. And then, you know, I kind of just went over the changes that we've had since last month. I know last month we did talk about increasing wages. Um just something I wanted to add in that conversation. I was kind of I was looking on the website on the PGCPS job website to see the different vacancies and again our dedicated aids receive the state minimum wage of $15 an hour which is criminally low. You know you can go work at McDonald's and make more and have an easier job or you can work as dedicated aid. I think for a lot of people the choices

026are obvious. Um, and there was also some kind of like janitorial position. Uh, believe me, everybody deserves a good wage, livable wage for honest work. Um, but the temporary janitor was paid more than the dedicated aid. It was like$,550 or$1,575. and she thought, "Wow, we're paying people who deal with our garbage more than we're paying people who deal with our disabled children. Like, what are we saying about the priority that we're placing on our disabled children? We're, you know, we're not prioritizing them as high as we're prioritizing our garbage." Um, and that's a real problem. Thanks. Thank you, Miss D. Miss Smith. That was actually an excellent segue to um what I was going to bring up. So I would just ask the question and it my question might be for Miss Bowman um unless

027someone else has an answer. I would I'm interested in knowing who holds the authority to revise the requisition and the benefits that's offered specifically to this position. And and the reason why I'm asking is, you know, we're making these recommendations to the board of education, but a part of me is wondering, is that the only group of people that this particular group need to make this um recommendation to? So, I was just curious who has the authority. The way that I Yeah, the way that I would answer that is I would first I think that needs to go to our chief of human resources. Um there's also of course a financial impact if you're looking at benefits. So our chief of finan uh chief financial officer and probably the executive cabinet as a whole. Uh

028but those are the two key people that I would say that this um recommendation of course would need to go through is our chief of human resources um and our chief financial officer. Um the other thing about temp our temporary staff. So, I want everyone to know not only do we have temporary dedicated aids, but there are temporary positions and other like supporting services and other divisions across the system. So, um temporary employees as a whole. Um they are located in different um divisions across Prince George's County Public Schools. They're not just um dedicated for students who have IEPs. So, I would say that our chief of human resources would be the best person to be able to speak to it um as we think about temporary employees across the system um and when um

029they get raises or when they may be looked at to be viewed around um as part of the budget process to make them um a permanent position if that's what's desired by leadership. Thank you. Thanks, Miss Bowman. We're going to go back to Mr. Drier. Then I have a question for Miss Payne. Miss Bowman, it was good to uh and thank you chair for recognizing me. Um Miss Bowman, it was good to speak to you just before um the meeting went live. It seems like you have a lot of sort of inside knowledge on on the human resources with uh PGCPS. Um and I think that's you know um a very valuable thing especially in in this situation. But you're you're absolutely right. So I I work at the Buoie Center for the Performing Arts

030with PGCPS. We have um 38 temporary employees um and they have different sort of job titles um and I believe that the pay rate and Miss Bowman you can correct me if I am wrong is set by compensation and classification which is with human resources and maybe it is a discussion with them to at least start the conversation we could if we can't get them to be part-time employees by the start of FY Y 26 maybe we can get them up to 18 19 $20 an hour. Um I think they're probably going through that um process now which uh where they set those rates and I think it's based a lot on precedents and what's been done in the past. So uh you know that could be something we could advocate for now as they're

031starting to um you know I know that I've put in temporary employee requests over at my facility. um they will evaluate them and they will set a pay rate based upon what it was last year, based upon if there was any changes to minimum wage or anything like that. So maybe there's a possibility to be able to uh request that there at least be a pay increase for these dedicated aids that um do so much for our our students. Thank you, Mr. Dryer, Miss Payne, and then Miss Vickery. Yes. I I just wanted to raise that um our committee did have with the chief human resource officer for Prince George's County Public Schools um that was part of our data collection process uh because we wanted to understand what some of the um challenges were

032from her perspective and in listening to her um some of the challenges that she mentioned we kind of incorporated into our thinking. So I want I want want the group to know that and to know that we were thinking just strategically what are the issues that we want to bring forth to the board so that if the board approves what we're suggesting and the dedicated aid is a position that the board feels is critical um then there would be more traction to be able to have meetings because the chief human resource officer also referred us to finance and to have a conversation with them. Um we scheduled a meeting that hasn't happened yet. So, I just wanted the group to understand our process and how we were thinking and trying to get this um issue

033raised as a really important one because we just felt given the dedicated aids position and the importance and the integration with our kids IEP, it was a very important position to think differently about. Thank you, Miss Payne. Uh, Miss Vickery and then board member Brown. Um, you know, honestly, we can we can um hold my question until after we finish this talk. Okay. Thank you, Bo Member Brown. Yes. Thank you so much, Chair Blackwell. Uh, I just wanted to um encourage those who are on the call. Um last Monday which is I think the 2nd um the board uh had a the audit committee meeting and the chief Baldwin who is the chief of human resources she talked about um the uh opportunities I think areas of opportunities to make the HR process a little

034bit better. Um and so I just wanted to encourage you all to kind of take a look at that meeting. There was a presentation and she kind of broke it down a little bit more. Um that way I think it will give you all a little bit more understanding as well over Okay. Thank you board member Brown. Um I'd like to add to um as everyone has spoken having a child who is a product of Prince George's County Public Schools. As a parent who won a one-on-one um a a dedicated aid for my son, it was a very tedious process. And what what happens is for a lot of parents like myself that once you get a a good person to work with your child then that person usually doesn't stay either because they doesn't

035have have benefits. So that is a daunting daunting for us because um the services are needed and we still back at the same junction of years and years of asking for the same thing and never really getting a a fair answer to the parents who need those services because like I said the aid will come you have a good aid you like okay my my child is okay he's moving forward he or she is moving forward and then it'll come halt because that aid may lead to find another job. So, um hopefully this time we can get a a a consensus for a better answer. Um we're moving on. Anybody else have any other questions or any other comments? And so, we will move on to the next committee. Miss um Bowman, can you com

036um uh give us some information from your committee, please? Yes. Um so the main update that I'll share is that we um have received our responses from our subject matter experts across the district from the department of special education as well as our department of building services and facilities as well as our director of in the office of alternative infrastructure planning and development as well as our associate superintendent for supporting services who manages um the overall budget for supporting services. That does include the ADA um component. We also uh received responses from our office of general counsel on some questions that was raised um as well as our director of governmental affairs. those responses have been um turned over to our subcommittee who is reviewing them and then based on their review there will be

037recommendations that will be made um from the review of those responses to determine if further research is needed. We do believe that based on some of the responses we will need to do further research with our subject matter experts to be able to provide um recommendations back to the overall DAIB for review and feedback. So that's where we are with our subcommittee. Okay. Thank you so much. Um I'd like to move on to subcommittee that's working on policy 1700. I think that was Miss Patrick. Um Miss Patrick is not here this evening. Anyone here from her committee can report on what's um what's the process you are working on for policy 1700. Chair Blackwell, this is Teresa. Okay, go ahead. I don't think we actually have an update. I wasn't I wasn't um aware that

038Miss um that our chair would not be here this evening, but we in our last meeting, we reported out what our recommendations are and I believe that the committee or the advisory board um voted for us to move forward with those. So we plan to include this information in the report that will be presented to the board at the end of the month. So there's not there's there's no update from this subcommittee. Okay. Thank you, Miss Smith. Um with all other committees, do anyone have any other questions of any of the committees that presented their information this evening? Miss Vicky and then Miss Smith. Not a question about the committees, but um I feel like there was um a statement in our last meeting where we tabled whether Miss Meyers and Mr. Dwire were joining

039any subcommittees, and I just want to make sure that I have that um documented properly. Okay. Um Miss Johnson, can you answer that question for Miss Vicky? I'm sorry. What was the question again? Can you Miss Vicky? Well, then Miss Meyers and Mr. Dwire were joining um some of the subcommittees and which subcommittees those were um I don't know did did you was there did they decide I'm I'm not really sure what how was it I don't think that any decided I think that they asked for to to come back to the board at a at this meeting I thought it was and so I'm just trying to figure out if we have gotten to that time yet or if we're going to wait until the next school so I'm just wondering if it would

040make more since at this point since would it make more sense to wait until you come back after the break? Um I guess that's something that would be up to the chair if uh she thinks they should be assigned right now or wait until um we start back up after the break again. Yeah, my question was for for chair and vice chair. Okay. Okay. Um, Miss Smith, I'mma have you to answer that question since we since we at the end of the school year. I mean, so um, these two individuals came in to fill a vacancy of I'm of the belief let them dig right in. So, um, we can let them Yeah, we Well, I guess by now they are aware of the three subcommittees. So, sorry. I'm really sorry. I just wanted to

041make a if uh vice chair if I could just make a really quick point. So, um and no and I think that you make a great point as well, but I just wanted to for situation awareness just to make sure that whichever committee you all put them on that you don't exceed uh will meet the nine person minimum because then you'll be in quorum. So, we just have to make sure that they're that you all place them on a subcommittee that, you know, doesn't won't meet that nine member um form. So, Miss Johnson, don't get mad at me. Um if I believe if if it's the desire of their heart to be on there, then we just figure out a way to make it a public meeting if necessary because this this is really important

042work. Um I don't believe um any of the subcommittees are approaching for us to have quorum but but let's we can all just work together to you know if if if it happens um fine vice chair vice chair you're correct we're nowhere near on any of the three subcommittees. Okay. Near quorum. Um board policy 1700 committee has two four five. Um new school construction and accessibility of buildings has two four five and employment and hiring has two four and six. Okay. Awesome. So um I the likelihood of us doing any work during the summer may be slim to none. Um, so I don't think we have to wait. Um, they could they could get assigned tonight and then any material that the board that those groups have been working on, they can start reviewing it

043and then um, once we come back up in September, we just dive they'll be able to just dive right in. That's those are my thoughts. I'm in agreement, too. Thanks, Miss Smith. Um, Miss Meyers. Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. Um, I think at the last meeting we talked about um, us getting some kind of orientation and us being able to get access to the documents because we still didn't have those um, so that we could get up to speed. Um, and so that was the only um, stop gap measure is trying to understand what all you've been working on. you know, us having historical reference um information in the orientation so we know where to find stuff because I know board docs are supposed to work a certain way, but I think there were some

044things that weren't available to us as you all were transitioning to I guess a different platform. So that's kind of why we had not or at least me, I'll speak for me, I had not yet raised my hand for a particular uh subcommittee because I wanted to know what they were all doing. um try to review the information and then make a decision about which thing I I feel like I could help more with. Okay. Um so, Chair Blackwell, we we definitely can get them access to the Google Drive. Um Miss Meyers, um I hate to say this, but there's not a lot of historical information that's available. We definitely can share the last report um that Miss Johnson was able to pull up that came out of this board. Um but any other documentation

045will just be of the work that the subcommittees have currently been um doing thus far. So we'll make sure um that the two of you are able to access the the Google Drive. I think I said that in the last meeting, but by tonight you will you guys will have access. That that's a that should be an easy thing to get done. Miss Myers, did I answer your question? And you asked a question about orientation? Yes, ma'am. Yeah. So, Miss Blackwell, um I know that we don't have like no type of on on boarding document or anything that's like formalized. So, um I think you and I just need to get together and try to determine what that looks like. Um, this is not on the agenda, but I I I was planning on bringing

046this up um at the the latter part of our agenda when we do like a round table. Um, but maybe this might be a good opportunity. I think Excuse me. I'm sorry, Vice Chair. I'm sorry. So, if you wanted to um bring up something that's not on the agenda, can you possibly do it when we get to 7.0, which is new business? That way we're still in alignment with that would be the the time that you would bring up the topic. Chair Blackwell, we could share um we can um table my question until then so that we can back and finish fully discussing. Okay. Thank you. All right. Um and then Miss Blackwell, I did have questions before we move to the next agenda item. Okay. That would be the presentation. Yeah. Dealing with the

047presentations. Okay. Um is it I would recognize Miss Smith at this time about the presentation. Um under not the presentations about we was just wrapping up with the subcommittee status reports. Yes. So this is where where I wanted to ask my question. Um although it aligns with the presentations. Um, I wanted to know if each subcommittee would be willing to um provide talking points and any um data points that you all feel should be um pointed out when we do this presentation at the end of the month to the board so that um Chair Blackwell and myself are um properly representing the information that that connects with the recommendations. Um, I know that you guys have been working hard in your subwork groups. So, definitely if you have data that that some of us may

048not have been privy to, but it would help underscore whatever point that we need to make, if you could um consolidate that information and get it over to us. Um, and then, so that was one question. Then the next question I think is for Miss U. Brown. Um, I know some of the subcommittees submitted data requests. I wanted to know is there an update um as far as you know getting our hands on on those pieces of data. I will check um the tracker that the board members do have because I did submit your information to that. I have not personally received anything as of yet, but I will continue to look and give you all an update. Thank you. Okay. Thank um Miss Johnson. Thank you, Chair. Actually, um I noticed my uh our

049interim director, Cindy Alleon, uh is here on the meeting, and I just wanted to just verify with her uh while you all were, uh the vice chair mentioned the the pre um excuse me, the end of the month present, the report out that you all were going to make to the board at the end of the month. And I just wanted to verify with her that the minutes um would be around I guess is it would they have eight minutes? Cindy, I'm sorry if I'm putting you on the spot here. Is she here? I don't know. She maybe stepped away. I know I sent the email. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I did see something that said eight minutes, but I one of the follow-up questions that I had was I know sometimes questions are asked.

050I don't know if questions would be asked to us, and if so, does that mean we need to consider that as we're preparing the presentation material? Like, does the presentation really need to be four minutes because we may have to deal with questions? And that's a great question. Um, I can follow up. I know I don't know if Sydney stepped away for a minute, but I can certainly follow up with her about that. Um if this would just be just a report out and that's it. No questions or would there be a question um session followed after your report? But yeah, that's a really great question. I'm going to note that for Cindy. Okay, Miss Johnson, I have a question for you. Um or um vice chair, when is the date of the meeting, the

051pre um board meeting? June 26. June 26. 700 p.m. is the open session. Okay. Okay. Um, we move on to from 5.3. Do anyone have any questions or any comments about what was just mentioned? Go ahead, Miss B. Brian. Thank you. Um, just regarding the the meeting on the 26th at 7 PM, are we um are we all going to be there? Uh, and and the board chair and vice chair are going to be presenting. Um, I'm happy to to be there in support, cheerleader, whatever you want. Um, but I I also don't want to miss it for lack of not knowing otherwise. Um, Miss Johnson, can you answer that question? Absolutely. I'll be I'll be happy to answer. Yes, absolutely. So, the leadership would be presenting. So, that would be the chair and vice

052chair would be would be making a presentation. You are certainly welcome to still show up. Um, this is a public meeting. So, the 7 p.m. uh session um for the board is a open session. So, any member of the public can come. So, you're certainly welcome. you and anyone else here is certainly welcome to to show up but the actual presentation will be done by by leadership DAB leadership. Thank you. You're welcome. Anyone else have any comments or questions before I move on? Okay, with uh we're moving on to 6.0 the presentation. Um I will recognize Miss um Smith as she explained. Miss Smith. I didn't realize I was doing this agenda item. So, um, so, okay, as we've already alluded to, we have this presentation that's coming up on the 26. Um, I Sorry,

053chair. I'm I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I I just have to um interrupt. I'm I'm really sorry. So, um, chair, uh, yes, I'm I don't know if you're looking at the agenda, but this is this presentation is supposed to be about the work plan for next year. Do you see that in your notes? Yeah, I see that. That Okay. And the reason why uh vice chair, I put you on there as as as doing the um I guess kind of the explanation of this work plan is because I know you were there at our meeting. Uh but chair um at the time, unfortunately, she wasn't able to make it. So, I figured that it may be a little easier for you to speak on it if you don't mind. Thank you. I needed that's helpful. Presentation

054can be interpreted a couple of different ways. All right, guys. So, um I met with um Miss Brown as well as Miss Johnson. So, met with the board of education to talk about the work plan for DIAB for school year 26 and 27. um by policy right now um we have seven sessions a minimum of seven sessions that we must um adhere to. So in those seven sessions um and trying to keep it align with things that currently go on throughout the school year. We thought of topics that we thought would be of interest to the public and to the work of DIAB. Um, Miss Miss Johnson, I don't have it in front of me, but if you can, if you have it in front of you, could you list out what those um subjects

055are for me? I may be able to. I wonder if I can share my screen. Yes, I have it. I'm sorry. I have it for Oh, okay. Are you able to share? Oh, no. I'm not able to share. Okay. Um, let me see if I'm able to share if we're able even capable of doing that. Um, hopefully we can. Okay, I have it up. Let me see. Well, Miss Johnson pulls it up um for the public and for our board just to be advised that I will embed the the document into our minutes as well. Great. it will be a clickable link. And the other point that I think I need to make is that these are are um these were suggestions. They may end up changing. Um but we just wanted to at least

056get something get something out there so that you know it helps with being prior, you know, building our priorities and um being um connected to what's currently going on. So for September, is everyone able to see I'm sorry. Is everyone able to see it? Yes. Okay. All right. Perfect. Oh, at least I can. All right. So for September, once we return back, we figured that we will examine the goals um of each school of each, you know, district district that we're representing. Um as well as have a deep dive into um our policy discussion. We know that um Mr. Moss came to one of our meetings, but it was very brief. So, we want to really take a deep dive into the policy um and then just examine the goals. We know that the board

057of education will be meeting um or at least having a retreat in the summertime and I would assume at out of that retreat there are some priorities that's coming out of there. So, how do we align to that? um and and keeping it in context with board policy 1700 um in October. Um to my knowledge, this policy will be on the tracker for next year. So although there are recommendations that we plan to present on the 26th um because this is going to be on the tracker, I think that this board as a whole need to really look at board policy 1700 and make sure that um you know if we if we have any information by October that we can take into consideration from our recommendations that we are incorporating that information into this

058document so that um the policy and governance committee can take this all into consideration. November um again looking at the recommendations and seeing what can what is going to move forward from the HR recommendations. Um and then we also still have the policy um one here. December we had a discuss a brief discussion about how we were going to be doing engagement. Um, I think that we need to take a deeper dive into that. What does that look like for our respective districts? Um, things of that sort. So, put that in for December, January. Um, oh, and then what's going to be st standing? We will always have our subcommittee report out. That's going to be a standing item. But for January, the capital improvement plan, um we we would like the representative um that's

059that's governing over that to come and present to us. Um this hopefully some of the information that they have to share will align with what we're doing with one of our subcommittees. So we wanted to have a placeholder to get that person here to present. February, we want to start our discussions. We didn't, this group has not had any discussions as it relates to the budget. Um, and I felt that if we start early um looking at the budget, we can start to connect with the board of education um to get our thoughts in place on, you know, where we may need some revisions made um some adjustments made. I don't want to say revisions, some adjustments. Um, and especially aligning with the concerns that we have for that dedicated dedicated aid position. Um, by

060March, again, we want to still keep um our recommendations at the forefront of our mind. Um, so we'll probably continue our discussion so that we'll have another report out eventually. And then we also will need to to um we don't need to do a reminder, but we put this out here to for the public to have a reminder. The the board education won't need a reminder, but the public that um vacancies that we will have to eventually post the applications for the vacancies connected to this group. Um I know one of the recommendations that we have is that half of the group I think it's I think the number is half half of this group um remains in place so that some of that knowledge can stay um as we continue to get do the

061work and then um the other half will will be leaving and be replaced by any um new district members. So we just wanted to make the the the public aware that the vacancies will be soon will soon to be announced. Um in April we said that we should talk about accessibility and inclusion. We would we just need to have a discussion about that. And then June we will be doing our annual report by but by May we want to try to fine-tune any of the information that we have gathered throughout that school year so that it can be incorporated into that final report. So that's that's all I have. Um, I'll turn it back over to you, Chair Blackwell. Okay. Thank you. Um, there, um, are there any questions? Anything that was presented by vice

062chair of the what we're going to be working on for next school year? Uh, Miss Payne and then Miss Vickery. Um, yes. I'd just like to um uh Vice Chair Smith, the thinking about following up on the recommendations. Is that the recommendations that we're giving to the board in June or are these different recommendations? If if you could just elaborate a little bit more on your thinking around that. Sure, Miss Payne. Great question. And I think it's going to be a combination of the two. Um cuz such such as with like the new construction subcommittee, we won't be ha we won't have any recommendations right now because we're still um um doing our conducting our research and gathering information and based on what what the outcome is from there, we may end up having recommendations.

063So, I think that this is just a a a work in progress um type of deal because we are going to present recommendations and before the end of this school year, we don't want that to die off. So, we want to make sure that that discussion remains with the board of education as well as with administration. So, some things that we are recommending may not be lowhanging fruit. It may be things that that um that require like long-term um action planning. So as such the discussion may still be on the table. So my line of thinking is a combination of the two. Miss Vickery and then Miss Dwire. Mr. Mr. Dwire, I'm sorry. Miss Vickery. Yeah. Um just a a quick question and I guess this is more for Miss Adeline and Miss Johnson. Um

064how long does um and maybe even board member Brown, you know, um how long does the um application process work? Um I'm just like looking at the the work plan and wondering um how long does that take? is that announcement, although it's just kind of an announcement from the chair and vice chair in the the agenda, not necessarily something for the board itself to do, but just wondering on the back end, how long does that take for you guys? Um because is March the appropriate time or maybe is December the appropriate time, you know, like it's just trying to plan out logistics and wondering that. Let me I can answer this question. I I think I have it. So, uh, the, uh, announcement went out in March, we chose somebody in April, and then we

065announced them in May, and then we're kind of announcing them again in June in front of um, the public and of course um, the the board. Um, but I will say that uh, Tia's Tia and Miss Adeline were very adamant that we went through over a hundred applications um, at a swift manner. Um, and so that is I think March is definitely an appropriate time. So that's that's just my feedback. Okay, great. I was just wondering like do we push it back? Like do we start do you guys should you guys start in January? Should we start, you know, teeing people up like you know like letting the public know earlier or that's all. Thank you. Okay, Mr. Dwire. Um, thank you chair. I I'm sort of, you know, taking all of this in um

066and I'm in the same boat as Miss Meyers, kind of new to obviously new to to the board here. Um I'm curious about do we want to make a mo. So I'm a 12 month year old or a 12 month um PGCPS employee and when we flipped the fiscal year, which is coming up, that's actually when my work really like kind of explodes. So, while a lot of teachers are winding down, I'm kind of gearing up. And I'm wondering if in this sort of transitional time, do we want to uh I would like to make a motion to see if we can get the temporary aids um rate changed to something a little bit better than what it is. Um it may be just as simple as presenting something to compensation and classification and see

067if they are in agreement. Um, I don't know if it needs to go to finance. Um, I think they have a lot of power in determining who gets paid what. Um, and I would like to make a motion to at least see if they would be open to the idea of increasing the wage of a dedicated aid for FY26. I second that motion. Miss Meyers, you got to beat me to it. you. But I want to make a comment. Um I guess after we do this part. Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Chair Blackwell, you have to ask if there's any seconds. Um and then we go from there. And after Chair Blackwell does that, Mr. Dwire, I ask you to restate your motion because I totally missed it. Okay. Um since the motion is on

068the floor for Mr. Dire, do anyone wants to second that motion? Um, the motion. What? Well, yeah, I have a question. Hold on. Someone was speaking. Was that you, Mr. Vickery? Yes, but m Miss Payne, is your question towards the motion that's on the floor? Okay. Okay. Go ahead, Miss Payne. Miss Blackwell, you got to you got to you got to state the motion and say that it's been seconded and then it's there. Okay. The mot the motion that was put to the floor by Mr. Dryer and second by Miss Smith has been properly moved and seconded. Properly moved and second. All right. Is there any any any objections? Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Miss um Miss Myers had her hand up, then Miss Payne, and then Miss Johnson. Yeah. Uh I think the

069first thing is that um Madam Secretary needed Mr. Dwire to repeat the motion so she could capture it. I'll be happy. Not yet. Not yet, Miss Myers. Okay. All right. So, so my only comment to uh Mr. Dwire, and I'm glad you brought this motion. Um for the dedicated aids for kids who have IEPs, I guess I I also want to know how, if this question hasn't been answered, how are they funded? because I know that for kids who get like medical assistance or Medicaid that um if the IEP states that they get a dedicated aid or a aid that somehow it's funded because I remember signing some stuff for Medicaid at some point. So I I'm trying to understand the funding stream. Um and that may be an opportunity for us to say, "Hey,

070you're getting this money from Medicaid as well." Um, so it may not be fully on the the county to fully pay them a a better wage. Um, I I'm going to ask this person and see if they can get clarification. Miss Bowman, can you get clarification to that? Is Yeah, we need to consult with our chief financial officer is not currently paid through Medicaid. Thank you. I was going to also add um that the documents you most likely signed and sorry for jumping in but as someone who works for that system um without putting so much out there um the documents you signed were probably personal documents related directly to the health services that were needed for the child in your um guardianship or um or your biological child. um Medicaid does not work in

071that instance in the way that you are explaining it um with PGCPS and and some of the school districts in Maryland. It does, but it doesn't and just it's just not as simple and plain as you stated it. And so those documents you sign might just be specific for you and your family. Okay. Thanks, Miss Mcree, Miss Payne, and then Miss Smith. Uh yeah, my question also was related to the budget. I wanted to understand the budget formulation and execution process, the timing, right? When does the county um you know establish its budget, when is that budget approved, right? And so um understanding that I think might help us as we think about uh whether the motion can move forward or not just based on the timing. Okay. Thanks, Miss Payne. I'm going to refer

072this question to board member Brown. Can you give a little clarification on what Miss Payne just stated when it comes to the Yes, of of course. So, um the county council did come out with their budget um and so we just received um how much we will be getting. We know what we proposed and so of course in this last meeting is when we're going to possibly vote. Um the the chief financial officer will present all of this information to us. Um and so this will be an opportunity for us to say yay, nay. Um and of course based on the recommendations of um HR. Um we're going to be taking a look at pretty much everything. But um yeah, stay tuned. But June 26 is definitely a meeting that you want to be a

073part of. But we do also have a business meeting. Do we still have the business meeting on the 12th? Uh Miss Johnson, I'm sorry. Maybe you can. I'm sorry. Yes. So, the the business meeting actually, if I'm not mistaken, I believe it's going to be a close session. Okay. So, um yeah, it's going to be well, it's going to open and then close. Got it. Okay. So, yeah, we'll most likely be discussing um that information as well. Um but typically close sessions are about personnel man matters and so that may come up. Um but definitely for sure the 26. Thank you board member Brown. Um before I come to you to you Miss Bowman um um Miss Smith, do you have something you wanted to add because you did have your hand up. Yeah, I

074put it down because Miss Brown just addressed I just wanted to know did we have the county council's um um information about the budget yet. So Okay. Thank you, Miss um Bowman, and then Miss Meyers. Thank you, Madam Chair. I just had a I think it's either a comment that I want to make for the good of the group based on the motion as part of the discussion. And so we if there's a recommendation that's going forward to to Prince George's County to look at the dedicated aid position being a part-time with benefits or benefited position. Should we wait to give Prince George's County an opportunity to respond to that recommendation before a motion is on the floor? That's just for the for the group. I don't know if it's a statement or just a

075question for the good of the group. like we I heard a recommendation that we make the position a permit that's going back to the board, but we have not given them an opportunity to respond. So, I was just wondering if we should wait to get that response first. Okay. Thank you, Miss Bowman. Um, Miss Meyers and then Miss Vicky. Yeah, just for clarity um about the dedicated aids, if Medicaid doesn't fund them, I think that's also something we should explore. Um, I did look at the forms that I signed um and they were for uh speech for a social worker, but all of these positions I signed a form for um at the end of the IEP. So, either I'm misunderstanding it or I'm misunderstanding the separate forms I got, but it was to apply

076Medicaid towards those services. And I think a dedicated aid would be one of those services. So maybe we need to look at that as well is how do we get that funding because it funds other things for that child. So thank you. Okay. Thank you Miss Mars. Um Miss Smith and Miss Vicky Hold for one second. Miss Bowman, can you get you did get clarification in regarding how the Medicaid forms are used? I was just clarifying that the dedicated aid budget does not come under Medicaid. We do fund Medicaid for speech and language services. Contract contractual services is a big bulk of the money that we leverage for Medicaid. That does include speech and OT services. As far as dedicated aid services or that pot of money is not used under Medicaid. So we would

077need to just go back to our chief financial officer to clarify that funding source of of the budget that we use to fund. I know a portion of that would be general funds, but I'm not sure if there's a different or an additional funding source beyond general funds. So, we just would need to clarify that with our chief financial officer. Thanks, Miss Bowman. Miss Marcus, did that clarify your answer? How the Medicaid money is um how those services are paid through Medicaid assist for some of it? Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yes, it did. Okay. All right. Thank you, uh, Miss Vicky and then Miss Smith. So, uh, two two things. One, um, so Maryland Medicaid does fund dedicated aids, but is through home health services. It is not within the school, um, like Miss Mcroman

078said. So, again, that's why I was very specific around the documents that you have signed may have been specifically for your family. Um, second, um, Maryland Medicaid does cover PTO speech within the school. that is carved out of any of the managed care organizations within Maryland for anyone under the age of 21. Um, I was going to actually go in line with Miss Bowman's question around whether we should wait. It's my understanding that we had already made this agreement as an advisory board that we're already going to ask the board of education to look at this position as a threequarter or halftime and increase the benefits. I'm just kind of wondering as a board me as an advisory board member are why are we revisiting this? Is this is isn't this part of a recommendation

079we're already presenting to them on the 26th that we should be waiting to hear from them um under that was presented to us by the subcommittee for um employment and hiring. So I'm just I'm just wondering why we have this motion and then I'm ready to receive whatever information I need so that we can move forward with recording it. But I I just think we're dup doing a duplication of work that we just did two or three weeks ago. And sorry, they're back home from swim. Okay. Thanks, Miss Victory. Um, Miss Smith. Oh, you muted. Oh, thank you. my my feedback actually um sort of connects with what Miss Bowman um presented to the floor as well as what u Miss Vicky is is pointing out. So when I second the motion, I understood the

080motion to be that um it's specific to getting the rate changed. the recommendation is making the position more attractive and and and and I can stand corrected if I'm understanding the recommendation incorrectly, but the recommendation is to make it more attractive and we're giving we're presenting options to make it attractive. Whereas with this motion, it's specific to the rate. That's it. That's what we want them to start focusing on right now. And with the recommendation, they can choose whether or not they want to deal with the rape. They may find other ways to make it attractive. So, I just wanted to that's the point that I just wanted to make and my thoughts of um supporting the the motion. Okay. Thank you, Miss Smith. Mr. Dry, hold on for one second. Miss Dole, you had

081your hand up. I changed my mind. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Dwire. Thank you, uh, chairman. Um, yeah, so I'm I'm kind of listening to what Miss Vickery was saying and, um, I wouldn't want to make this motion and potentially derail the work that's gone into making it a part-time or even a threequarters time position, which it seems like it's going to be early fall when um, that is sort of brought to the table. Um, however, the change of a rate, um, which I believe in this case is going to be through compensation and classification, it may not even need to go to the school board for a vote. I think it's going to be such a a minute adjustment that they could either approve or deny it without it necessarily needing to um have a

082have a be be discussed outside compensation and classification. I know that I've seen um in as an example I have a theater technician two that makes $15 an hour. So they then they created a theater technician three that makes $18 an hour. So they've created these positions based upon the needs of my theater. So I'm wondering if in the same vein they could make a dedicated aid position that say if they're at 15 now, maybe they make it at 18. But I think um to to reach back at Miss Vicker's point, the goal the overall goal is to make it a more attractive position in the future. And if for example, they change that rate to $18 an hour, I don't want them to think that's good enough for the next three years. Um I

083want it to be good enough. I want it to be a stepping stone to something that could be that halfime with benefits, threearter time with benefits. So if the group believes that this motion could perhaps derail the work that you've all already put in, and I'm the new guy here, so that's definitely not something that I want to do. However, it could also be seen as a stepping stone to that halftime position or that threequarter position. But I completely uh see what Miss Vickery is saying and I just want to put out there it may not be a drastic request to say hey can you bump this up maybe a dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar50 because every dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar$ dollar50 is

084going to count for these people okay thank you Mr. Do I have Miss Vicky? Um, I have a question back to Miss Payne and Miss Doyle. Do you did you guys ever find out who owns the line item of dedicated aids? Who owns it? Whose whose budget is it under? Well, I I was under the impression, Chanel, that you um had responsibility. Yeah. Miss Bowman. So I thank you. So it is part of our maintenance of efforts our overall budget for special education. Um we are tasked with looking at what we call maintenance of effort. So even our transportation services for students with disability all counts towards the overall maintenance of effort budget for the department of special education. So those dedicated aids or temporary positions under the special ed uh department are part of

085the overall maintenance of effort budget. Okay, thank you for clarification for that. So, do we want to keep the motion on the floor that has already been seconded or to withdraw? You have to do a vote. Okay. Um, give me two seconds. Sorry. Got to get my voting sheet. Thank you, Miss Vickory. Did you still need the motion repeated? I do, but I still also need my voting sheet. Okay, Miss Bowman, you have your hand up. Sorry, just to clarify, if we've already put this recommendation forward that was through a previous vote, are we able to vote again on the same I'm sorry, recommendation, Miss Bowman, we didn't put the very specific part of um I believe Mr. Dwire actually said make it a I I'll need him to state it, but we didn't. It's

086because I have both minutes up at the same time. It's not exactly how he stated it tonight. Um the minutes from and the recommendations um that were put on at the last meeting was more so like look at making this more attractive, think about making this a quarter time position. And if I understand his motion tonight is really like, "No, make this a full-time position or make it a halftime position, period." Like it it was more exploratory. Let me put it that way. That's the best way to explain it. It was like, "You guys should explore this option. We we think this is a great option. You should explore and think about." And if and I'll have to have Mr. Dwire because I need it for the records purposes anyway to restate the motion so

087I can make sure. Um, but the way I'm hearing it is it is actually different than just a Can you explore this for us, please? You'd like me to repeat the motion? Yeah, we going we going to need that for record, but I have Miss I'm going to yield back to Chair Blackwell because I see that we have some hands. Yes, Miss Payne. I'm recognize you at this moment, please. Yes. I I just want to echo uh Miss Vicker's, you know, our our thinking was to um just raise the importance of the position, right, and encourage the county to think more deliberately about it, but I I like the idea of being more specific in what we're asking. So, um you know, that that was not our approach, and I like Mr. Dwire's um approach

088and being stronger around what we're asking for. Just want to say that. Thank you, Miss Payne. Um Miss Vicky, are you ready for Mr. Dwer to restate his motion? Mr. Dwire. Um, I would like to make a motion to request that compensation classification consider upping the hourly rate for dedicated aids um as a stepping stone to potentially creating a either a part-time with benefits or a threearter time with benefits position uh for dedicated aids. Britney Patrick second bakery. One second. I'm capturing a second. Okay. Thank you. wire Patrick. Sorry, I take short hand and then I go back and listen to the meeting. Okay, ready for roll call. Miss Amaya, Miss Blackwell. Um, for for I'm sorry. Hold on. Chair Blackwell, you have to say the motion has been the motion properly second. Um discussion.

089Having had discussion, we can go towards a vote. Okay. Um the motion that Mr. Der put to the floor has been seconded by Miss Patrick. Um we shall take a vote. Miss Black Chair Blackwell. Yes. Miss Bowman. I'm going to abstain. Miss Burn I Miss Dorsey. Sorry, say that again please. I thank you Miss Doyle. Yes, Mr. Dwire. Yes, Mr. Jungo. Miss Katrell Miss Myyers. Miss Myers. I'm here. Sorry. Can you repeat that for me? We're We're waiting for your vote on the motion from Mr. Dwire. I agree. Miss Patrick, I. Miss Payne, yes. Vice Chair Smith, yes. Miss Vickery, I and Miss Wanggate Robinson. And she is absent today. We have a total of nine in affirmative, one abstension and four absence. The motion has carried. With that said, um any qu I'm sorry,

090Chair Blackwell, I need to update that for the record to make sure I'm correct. The motion carried with a vote of 10 in the still with one abstension and four absent. Okay. Thank you. U Miss Johnson. Yes. So, chair, um I just kind of just want to make sure I get us back on track. So, we were under we're on 6.0 in the presentations which was the the uh work plan for school year 2025 2026. So I just want to make sure um I guess if you all are finished your discussion um the next part would be you to state that if there are no corrections to the topics that are coming up for the next school year then you could say um that the um the work plan has been approved. Okay. Um so

091I just want to make sure that we're still in alignment with that's where we're going with the meeting to make sure that because it has to because I'm sorry if I could just kind of explain briefly. So once it's approved here in DAB, the work plan is going to move forward to the full board of education and um and they're going to along with the other committees, they're going to um approve it in at their August meeting. Okay. Thank you. So with no objections that we agree as a subcommittee that we move forward with the work plan for school year 2526. Miss Smith, I I guess for my own edification, if we move forward with this, is there still opportunity to make revisions throughout the school year? Like these topic areas, like let's say hypothetically

092something else is brewing that month and we really need to discuss it as a board. Does our agenda, we create our agenda for each meeting. Does that control the discussions that's being um discussed? So some Oh, sorry. I was going to ask you a question, Miss Johnson. Mhm. Um with um can it be um approved with once it's approved by the board, can we be able to go back to make any corrections or to add to that work work agenda for the year? Um I believe you can. Let me see if Cindy if she's um available at this time. Uh Cindy, are you Oh, there she is. I'm not sure if you caught the question from chair Blackwell about the work plan that once it's approved by the board by the full board um are

093they able to amend it throughout the year? Um is that or they have to stick with what we what what they came up with the topics? No. So the um the work plan and I would advise you put that in the bottom of your of the work plan is that this is a non-binding document. Okay. will allow you to change it throughout the year without any legal issues. Okay. So, um, Miss Johnson or Cindy, if Okay. Once we agree to approve it and we put this at the bottom, we can change throughout the year if we need to add and add anything we need to work on. Yep. Okay. Okay. Miss um, Johnson. So when I make the motion to as a subcommittee that we agree we all in agreement to the work to the

094work um schedule for next school year for 2020 2025 26 um we will approve it with um not being binded to you can approve it so you could approve it with the uh we're going to add that this is a nonbinding the work plan is non-binding u and you can say that we'll approve it with that. Um I guess there'll be amended or correction, okay, to the to the work plan. Okay. I just want to know the language. Um as the chair uh as the subcommittee approves the work schedule for school year 2025 26 will be approved with no binding or make or or to have corrections made when necessary. Am I correct? So chair I'm sorry. So you could say um shall the advisory board approve the amended DAT work plan for SY 2526

095to include the non-binding language or something to that effect. Okay. And then without objections is approved. The amended work plan is approved. Okay. Um, DDAP will approve the working schedule for school year 2020 2025 26 with no binding language within the work the work schedule for the school year. If an agreement is a committee in agreement, um do we need to take a vote or do we need to say how do we answer that? No, I'm sorry. So, you could say um should the advisory board approve the amended DI work plan for SY 25 26 2025, excuse me, 2026 with the nonbinding um for it to be a non-binding work plan, I should say. So you can say the question is so the advisory board approved the amended DAG work plan as non-binding for the

096for SY 20252026. I don't know if you want to write that down. Yeah, I'm going write that down. That's a lot. Okay, go ahead again. So you can say the question is shall the advisory board approve the amended DAP work plan? Hold on. Approve amended DAP work plan. EDAP DAP work claim as nonbinding as non-binding. Okay. For SY 2026. Okay. Got it. Okay. The advisory board will approve the DDAP work. I'm sorry. Chair, you have to ask us a question. Shall you always start off as Shell? Okay. Shall the advisory board then say shall the advisory board approve um should the advisory board approve uh a DDAP work plan for non-binding for school year 2025 2026. Are there any questions? Are there any other comments? All in favor? Then you can say without objection, the

097amended DA work plan for SY 20252026 is approved. Okay. If there's no objections to approve the work plan for SY 2025 2026, it shall it shall be approved. It is. Okay. Thank you. Um Okay, we are moving on to new business. 7.0 new business. Um, Miss, uh, Smith, you this is you said you had some something to add to new business. Yes. So, um, DAP has, um, new members and with the reestablishment of this board, I think that it will be a great opportunity for us to have a retreat and I would like to know. Yeah, I guess the question is can can DAB have a retreat before the start of the 202526 school year and maybe the question is to Miss Brown. Board member Brown. Yes. Um, I was actually going to turn it

098to um the board staff, but um because I know we have our retreat and once I think board members are out for the count, I like to call it from like June um maybe until August 18th. Um Tia or um excuse me, uh Miss Johnson or Miss Adeline might be able to tell me the exact dates. Um, so I'm not opposed to it. Um, but what I will say is from what I've heard in in in the past, um, board members are not typically off even though they're supposed to be off. Um, and so I would have to look because now this is we're getting to um kind of like the end of the year and this is probably something we should have went before but I understand now that we have new board members.

099This is something we can definitely plan for. Um, when were you trying to do it, Teresa? Were you trying to do it in June? Like give me some dates that you were looking at. Trying to do it before school started. I was I was thinking before school starts. Not, let me say this. I'm not stuck on whether it happens before school starts. If we have to push it out, it's fine. I just I for me, I would like to see us get together um so that we can strategically plan and get to know one another, have some of that um team building exercises, things of that sort. Um, and if if the summer time is not the appropriate time right now, I mean, fine, but could we at least work towards doing it? No, I

100I do like the idea and I do think it's important, especially for this work. Um, so let me look at some dates and then I can get in contact with you and and Chair Blackwell to figure out what's the best time to do so. And then if we need to submit, I know we we're thinking about this with PAC and we're going to be working on a proposal, but if this body needs to um develop a proposal, that's just something we will need to know so that we can work towards, you know, getting all of that documentation together. Um, sounds good. Thanks, Miss Smith. And thanks, um, board member Brown, Miss Johnson. Uh, so I just wanted to remind everyone that much like with the board of education, this may have to be a open

101meeting. Um, if you're going to do a retreat because if the quorum of nine is met, it's going to per the Maryland Open Meetings Act, this will have to be open to the public. They would have to there would have to be notice. So, it's just something to keep in mind um that we it would have to be um yeah, notice will have to go out to the public that you all are doing a retreat. So, um that's just something to keep in mind. And I'm going to also speak with Sydney too about this just to see how this will look as well. Um, so just to make sure that we're we're we're in alignment with the policies and you know and how again how how this will look um as far as how do

102you want to do it, where you want to have it, all that you know logistics wise. So, I think that a meeting definitely would have to take place, I think, with uh leadership and board uh board member Brown as well as uh board staff, board office staff, myself, maybe even Cindy. Okay. Um is there any other new business? With that being said, um, are we in agree? Oh, go ahead, Miss Miss Vicky. Yeah, I think Miss Vicky had an item. Go ahead, Miss Vicky. Yeah, I was coming back to the subcommittee. Sorry. And I couldn't get my hand up in time. I was over here moving the minutes around. Um, but we had tabled the subcommittees and whether or not um, Miss Meyers and Mr. Dwire were going to join subcommittees tonight or if they

103were going to be placed on subcommittees. So, I was just bringing that topic back around. Okay. Thank you, Miss Rickery, for the reminder. Um I u Mr. Mr. Miss Meyers and Mr. Dyer, we have three subcommittees. Um my question is do you have any subcommittees that you would like to be part of which we have um the hiring and employment we have Miss Bowman who's over the subcommittee for um uh accessibility and construction and we had the other subcommittee for 1,700 policy. Um, just want to get your interest, Mr. Dwire. Um, thank you, chair. I think just with the the motion that I put to the floor, it seems logical to me that I should maybe slide into hiring and employment if hiring employment will have me. Miss Payne, you are the chairperson for that

104committee. Absolutely. will have you. Thank you so much. Thank you, Mrs. Drier. Miss Meyers, um do you have a committee that you have some interest in that you would like to be a part of? Oh, of course, the hiring one. Um the 1700 committee. I'd like more information about it, about what they've done so far in the last year or the last six months to get a better idea of where they are. Um, but preference-wise, the same one Mr. Dwire is talking about because I'm passionate about making sure students have the support that they need um, inside the classroom. Okay, Miss Vickery. Um, will the numbers still be good for that committee? You know, that's what I was going back to and double check. Yes. Give me what? We can't have more than what eight.

105No, I don't want us to think like that. I mean, we can. We just have to work if it goes if we have corn. We just have to make sure that we do a public meeting. I really don't want people to I I don't want that to be a barrier from people participating. Vice Vice Chair Smith, you're okay. If if the two if Miss Dwire and uh Mr. Dwire, excuse me, and Miss Meyers. Um, you guys have rhyming names similar because you have both have the YERS in um if they want to join um employment and hiring. No, it makes eight. We couldn't have anybody else join Miss Dole. I'm on the HR and employment and I would just say uh there's usually somebody who can't show to a meeting. So even if it did

106bring us to nine um you know we're all busy parents and community members here. Bring it. Love to have more people. It's okay. We wouldn't even make it to nine. I'm I'm the one person on the board that's not on that committee. Not even trying to join. I love you guys. Good luck and God bless. But no thank you. Okay. I'mma stay with my buildings and my elevators, Miss Bowman. No, you know how I feel about them elevators. And I'mma stay with my people over in BP700 and we gonna get the policy words right. But not y'all. Okay. Y'all not gonna make quorum. I'm not gonna ever be there. Um, Miss Marius, your hand is up. So So that's my next question. So the 1700 policy one, I mean, is that some Can we do

107both or are we just relegated to one? How is that, can we do more than one? I have to leave that for Chair Blackwell and Vice Chair Smith, but we didn't have any parameters beforehand. Um, so I would assume that they would let us still be the same and those two committees are nowhere near the number seven or eight. Um, so they do have availability. Chair Blackwell and Vice Chair Smith. Yeah. always said in the past, you know, whatever you you know what your capacity is better than anybody else. My thing would just be if then this is for any member. If you sign up for a committee, that's what you're committing to. So, um just know what your capacity is. And then, um Miss Patrick is I think Miss Patrick is here. Yes, Miss

108Patrick. Miss Blackwell, if you're okay with this, um could Miss Patrick just give an overview? Okay. Um, Miss Patrick, can you please give an overview of policy 1700? Sure. Um, so board policy 7700 is the policy that establishes DIAB um, and provides the charge for the work of the DIAB. So, what we're supposed to focus on, we've met a few times before to review the policy. Um, and I would definitely direct all to the video recording of um, our previous meeting last month where we overviewed the preliminary recommendations that we've come to thus far. Um but we uh essentially are interested in having the board to revisit this policy to um expand and or clarify the scope uh in order to encompass all uh disability related federal laws. Um, so that's just kind of a

109summary, but I think you can really see the work that we've done in our in the video recording of the previous DIAB meeting. Miss Meyers. Oh, I thought I lost you there for I'm I'm having bad connectivity problems. Um, thank you. Um, I think I think what I'd like to have is access to the um documents just so I can read um and see, you know, how I may be of assistance. Um, but definitely leaning more towards the hiring um committee. Okay. Is that the committee that you would like to be um on at this present time? Yes. Okay. Thank you. Miss Pickery. Yeah. I just want to state for the public. I realize that um as I was making the minutes that we were talking about quorum and I'm just doing this for the

110public to just state that you know we are not trying to subvert having any type of public meeting. It is just everybody meets after work. So it's easier to have subcommittees that have less quorum so that sometimes we can have a 7 a.m. Saturday meeting. Um, and and I'm just stating this for the public so that they understand that sometimes we're on these meetings at 10 p.m. at night or we're on these subcommittees at 7 o'clock in the morning with kids yelling in the background driving to dance class or um as all my other advisory board members know that I take phone calls from the car from the parking lot um outside of SARC and Bach Road. So um we are we are not um trying to keep the numbers in a way for anything

111else. It's it's just that we know that without a public meeting um we can sometimes meet faster as four people or three people to just kind of download the information we may have learned from a department in PGCPS um to come back and report at our public meeting once a month um so that the public can find out what we did learn in those past three weeks. Thank you chair for recognizing me. Thank you Miss Vicky for um giving clarification for the public to understand. Um, do anyone have anything else they would like to bring up as new business that can be discussed this evening? Chair. Yes. Uh, Miss Smith and maybe Miss Johnson, I don't cannot remember. Maybe I need a refresher. Um, do we need a decision as far as our frequency? not

112the frequency um the time that we will meet next year like what will be our reoccurring meeting do we need to um bring that up tonight have we already addressed this so from my understanding in the chair's report I think um chair blackwell may have mentioned it because that was information that was in her report um she may have mentioned about I think she did mention it the third Tuesday of each month at 6 p.m. Yes. Okay, great. Thank you. I'm I was having some connectivity issues earlier. Thank you. Um thank you, Miss Johnson and Miss Vick. Um clarification. And yes, that's that next meeting um for everyone. So get your handydandy calendars out. That's September 16th from the minutes. And just again, just to remind everyone, I will send out um calendar invitations to

113everyone soon with that information. Okay. Is it any other new business for um the subcommittee for the committee this evening? With that being said, if we are in agreement for adjourning this evening um that's 7.1. As the chair, I'd like to would like to inform the public that the next meeting virtual meeting of the disability issue advisory board is scheduled for September 16th, 2025. Please continue to visit Prince George's County Board of Education website for meeting details and updates. Miss Vickery, I'm so sorry. Chair, can you start again? Um, adjournment is actually um subject eight. Subject eight. Oh, I'm sorry. You I stand corrected. Thank you. Um adjournment is 8.8. I stand corrected. Thank you so much. Um as I have um as the chair, our next meeting will be September 16th, 20125. Please continue

114to visit the Prince George's County Board of Education website for meeting details and updates. Um at this time, the meeting will be adjourned. Thank you all for your valuable contribution and consistent attendance throughout the year. To our viewers, thank you for watching and for your continued support. I wish everyone a safe and enjoyable summer and I look forward to continuing to do that important work after the break. Um, there being no further business, the time now is 8:01 and June 9th, 2025 meeting of the disability advisory board hereby is adjourned. Thank you. Good night everyone. Thank you everyone and thank the public. Thank you.