Board of Education Policy and Governance Committee Meeting, February 25, 2025.

001okay uh so um The Time Is Now 5:00 uh good evening and welcome uh and thank you for joining the February 25 2025 policy and governance committee meeting I'm Jonathan Briggs Vice chair of the committee and District Two board member I want to thank you all for joining us uh today um for those unable to observe now the meeting is being recorded and can be accessed on the PGCPS YouTube channel for interviewing um now saying that our chair for the committee is here um I'm going to pause there before we get to roll call and pass it over to him to um take over from me uh Miss adlay will you please call the rooll Dr Moss uh present Mr bricks present Miss W sh present and I'll be on camera soon miss Walker present

002Shay Jackson for present we have a uh with the quum present the policy and governance committee meeting will come to order um the chair um would like to we're going to move to adoption of the agenda at this time but the chair would like to inform the public that agenda items 4.2 which is policy 9354 board members voucher reimbursement of expenses um has been removed from the agenda uh this allows the administration additional time to review and refine these policies based on newly received information further discussion will be necessary to ensure the policies comply with legal requirements uh if there are no objections the committee shall adopt the February 25th 2025 meeting agenda there are no objections the February 25th 2025 meeting agenda is adopted uh we're going to now move to 1.4 approval of

003the meeting uh minute the meeting minutes if there are no Corrections the committee shall approve the January 28th and the February 6th meeting minutes uh as distributed there being no Corrections the January 28th and February 6 2025 meeting minutes is approved at this time we'll move to item 2.0 which is public comments on Rel on agenda items register public comment speakers can be live pre-recorded using video audio or written communication to our public commenters uh you have registered to speak in a public comment form where the Board of Education will listen to your comments but will not address them you will have three minutes to make your presentations speaking time may not be relinquished to another registered and unregistered individual you may not address individuals or issues with profanity or derogatory terms you will be

004warned once if you continue your comments will be muted and you may be removed from the meeting you were encouraged to use titles rather than names for example principal superintendent your adherence to these guidelines will enable the public participation process to move swiftly I believe there is one live speaker this evening Miss beatric now this was beatric de Jagger which is a student um period products policy good evening board members my name is beatric diager and I'm an eighth grader at Kenmore Middle School I'm here today to advocate for the implementation of public school's provision of mental hygiene products requirement I'm advocating for the implementation of this bill as part of my girl scout silver award project this bill requires school districts install dispensers in bathrooms and provide period products at all middle and high

005schools when I learned about this law I looked in every girl's bathroom in our brand new school and could not find it as Spencer I do not believe that PGCPS has has done that and I would like the board to investigate this I sent a questionnaire through social media and had a response from 65 students from 12 PGCPS middle and high schools here are some of the results 32% of students said that their school did not have period products available only 16% said that they could get period products from bathroom dispensers 39% of students said that they had had missed school or left early because they didn't have access to period products many students report that a specific teacher was kind in bought products for students with their own money and 98% said that it

006was important to have them available in school many students report that even when dispensers are installed in bathrooms that they are always empty when I asked the PGCPS Administration how the law was being implemented I was told to talk to my principal I will do that but the lack of access to period products is not isolated to one school and this is a countywide issue I have been told that there is no official board policy on Pro providing period products and that a memo was sent out to principles in 2022 memos get lost and forgotten about I think that the board should Implement a policy so that students parents and principles know what the rights and responsibilities are principles should have the resources to make sure that the law is being followed I'm asking the

007board to do the following ask PGCPS facilities to check that all middle and high schools have dispensers and provide a list of of students of schools where dispensers are needed and get those installed provide specific funding for the schools uh to stock dispensers I also ask that PGCPS provides a way like a QR code for example for students to report when dispensers are empty and need to be restocked an empty dispenser on a wall isn't very useful I'll will submit the this written testimony and include the link to my website that has all the students comments for my questionnaire thank you very much thank you so much uh for your public comment it's always exciting to see our students too so thank you so much for taking the time to join us today we will

008now move to item 3.0 which is our legislative update U we'll move to 3.1 there two two pieces of this tonight um so the chair and this is the blueprint implementation update at this time the chair recognizes Miss Welsh to introduce her guest speaker and present the blueprint implementation update good evening tonight we are fortunate to have with us um Dr um Cara Libby who's the director of the Strategic initiatives office and she has brought her team with her and they are going to provide us with an update of where we are in the implementation of all the blueprint requirements um so I'm I'm not going to take their time I'm going to let uh Dr liby move forward uh with her presentation good evening could we have assistance with the PowerPoint is it possible

009Cindy are will you you be able to post it for them I'm sorry my system was frozen thank you so first I'd just like to thank board members for your continued support for blueprint especially to testify in Annapolis we truly appreciate your support since blueprint was actually introduced in 2019 and we can go to SL slide three thank you so at the top of slide three is our link to our current blueprint plan that was completed in July 2024 for submission to the aib but along with that plan we had several components that were also included that had to be submitted between July 2024 in January 2025 are you able to click on the link that says laa blueprint plan component I don't know if you can enlarge it thank you so much so you

010can see that Prince George's County has submitted all of our components I'm going to quickly just describe each of the components first of course the completed plan the completed plan was based on our 2023 blueprint plan and I always say that's like our that was like our Baseline data and then the 2024 plan we had to say what we were going to do and how we were going to do it and the 2024 plan is in place until 2027 the another component was the um question 23 which deals with our budgetary needs and how we how we are going to allocate resources because as you all know the Money Follows the student at the school level and we have one of our strategic partners with us this evening that's going to talk more going to

011discuss more about the resource allocation our question 23 was so great that PGCPS was asked to present how we came about um developing that question at a state CFO meeting Chief Financial Officer meeting back in the fall of of 2024 also as you know we have the career ladder the career ladder was developed with partnership with the University of Maryland our Center the center for educational Innovation and they have been assisting us actually since 2016 2017 on different initiatives within PGCPS but the University of Maryland really took on and helped us to develop that career ladder but also in partnership with pgca and along with the career ladder we had the maintenance of certification which was a negotiated increase in salary for the national board certified teachers to keep their status who are teaching in

012LW in low performing schools so that was another component that we had to submit the 10% salary increase at a station was signed off by our superintendent and by County Council we had to we had to um ensure that the teach in PGCPS were receiving a 10% salary increase above the negotiated schedule between July 2019 and June 30th 2024 that was submitted and you all know we have a literacy plan prek through2 literacy plan that was completed and submitted to msde in the aib in September 2024 we will also have a mathematics plan that's due June 2025 and that will also be prek through 12th grade and then finally the last component was our career counseling mou we have career counselors in all of our middle and high schools grades 6 through 12 our partnership

013with our career counseling is with the local Workforce Development board and Prince George's Community College so they are helping us to implement career Counseling in all of our middle and high schools thank you so much for sharing that link and you can skip to slide six please thank you so we finally received approval for all of our components and our plan on Thursday January 30th 2025 and aib said that they would release our FY 25 funds so each Lea had to submit all those components before funds were released for fy2 and of course you can continue to find updates information resources on our website and on the aib website for anything pertaining to blueprint next slide please the aib the accountability and implementation board had funding to have each Lea who who wanted to participate

014in having a strategic partner we have five strategic partners for PGCPS this school year we have a partner for Early Childhood career ladder for our Career College and Career Readiness resource development and um right now I'm going to turn it over to winom because she's just going to give you a quick update on how each partnership is helping us to implement blueprint in Prince geores County great thank you Dr leby and good afternoon board members it's great to be here so our partners and we'll start right there with pillar one our early childhood education we're partnering there with wested and within that pillar this focus of that pillar is really around pre kindergarten expansion and what we found out through surveys with our private providers is that they need help applying for the Maryland State

015Department of Education prek expansion grants and so through again surveys wested in partnership with us um within the district are working to support those pre providers to apply for those Grant fundings so that we can have again more prek programs for students and those Grant Pro that those Grant proposals are due in April for pillar two which is our high quality and diverse teacher and leaders we're partnering with the national Center on education and the economy and for that particular particular pillar the focus in is on the career ladder a big body of work that the district is expected to do on that career lad piece we do have a a plan that's due July 1st this year too so that's part of the discussion of note is that Prince jges County Public Schools is

016actually one of two elas within the uh state of Maryland that's piloting the level four on that career ladder which is helpful to the state but also to other leas within the state of Maryland so we'll go to the next slide for pillar three and on pillar three uh here Dr liby already mentioned them but in pillar three we actually have two Partnerships uh one with City Works and they're really helping us with the career counselors as Dr Libby said Each of our middle and high schools have a career counselor within the blueprint for Maryland's future each middle and high school student is expected to have career counseling so this team works with City Works uh the three Partners again Prince George's County Public Schools uh employ Prince George's and Prince J Community College on

017a weekly basis we meet together to discuss the programmatic elements and to ensure that this work is happening in our middle and high schools and within that same pillar we have HCM strategies ACM strategies is helping us to coordinate across all the uh work streams within College and Career Readiness within the district they're working with us on a regular basis regular scheduled meetings are happening with them they've done interviews with all of the College and Career Readiness teams within the district and they're currently compiling that data into a report that's going to be submitted to us in March alongside the work that they're doing discreetly with Prince Georges county uh schools and the pillar teams the uh these uh strategic Partnerships Partners they're also conducting uh state wide community of practice on a monthly basis

018where our Lea uh members attend but we also have leas across the state coming together to delve into topics deeply connected to the work that they're doing in each of the pillars so as we go to the next slide I'm going to turn it back over now to Dr Libby and she'll talk about the Strategic budgeting and resource allocation portion of the pills thank you so we truly appre appreciate all of our strategic Partners but one of our best Partners is westad and Tara I'm going to turn it over to her in a few minutes westad is helping us with the resource allocation and as you all know this is very deep and indepth and it's times confusing so she's been helping us to look at what we are currently doing and what we need

019to do and how we're going to move forward also wiom mentioned Community Practice West Ed has also had Community practice sessions for all eleas across the state they had one to focus on the resource allocation for English language development students and one for special education students and how those resource resources are being allocated as we mentioned in October we we present Ed to the board subcommittee the scope of work for westad is to help us to plan and Implement to help us to um develop a communication plan and to help us with Community engagement that Community engagement plan and westad is helping us with all of that now Tara is really going to tell you what we are trying to do with resource allocation thank you Dr Libby hello everyone my name is Tara bergfeld

020I met some of you this last fall when I presented um when we were kicking off this work I am a Project Director at West Ed and a senior education Finance associate for the resource planning team here um my team at westad provides technical assistance and evaluation to States and school districts on topics related to school funding accountability systems and systems alignment we are really excited to be leading the work that supporting uh Prince George's County public schools around resource allocation and strategic budget support So as you know this is through a technical assistance grant funded by the aib to support Prince George's County we are plugging into pillar four um in particular and I'm wondering would you mind going um to the next slide um sorry I just trying to make sure I have

021all of my notes up correctly um right now our team is working on um sorry we are plugging into some some three key areas and I'm sorry that was actually on the previous slide I got my slide notes up for a second we are um supporting evaluating the current budget and expenditures for fisal year 25 as it aligns to the requirements in the blueprint specifically around those minimum funding requirements at the school level um we are also looking at um seeing how schools are allocating those 75% funds down to the school we worked on an analysis this past fall um with the finance team to determine how many schools are currently in the fiscal year 25 receiving that minimum funding required how many more are going to require additional resources and in what areas uh

022we are also conducting right now some additional analyses of the FY 25 budget to develop some data visualizations and some Trend analyses so our work is to help develop some resource allocation recommendations for the future the timing of this support unfortunately kind of ended up where we're not really plugging in to support fy2 change or FY 26 changes that budget is before you you're working on it we are hoping to position ourselves to support the district with kind of longer term recommendations for fiscal year 26 and and Beyond um we're looking at Trends in Staffing by building for example average salaries for particular positions staff to student ratios we're looking at what is in the budgeted versus actual salaries when we're looking at the student-based budgeting formula using all of that information to evaluate how

023those different data points align with student needs so for example what's the portrait of a staff makeup in schools that have higher than average populations of students who qualify for English language learner services or students who qualify for compensatory education through blueprint we want to know the average tenure of teachers in those High need schools how to special programs influence the allocations of staff and funding to particular schools so kind of answering lots of different questions about how we're currently allocating resources so that we can then think about recommendations going forward in the future and as Dr Libby said we are also working on developing a draft communication plan for the district District to help get out that message of blueprint we have provided some best practice guidance around communicating budget related issues generally we

024have some FAQs that we're finalizing that can be used in District communication materials and um with this work we'll come supporting the development of a community engagement plan to facilitate ongoing resource allocation and planning conversations with multiple partners and now if you wouldn't mind going to the next slide SL thank you we really kicked off our work with this in October uh meeting with the finance office to understand the current processes for allocating centralized versus School level cost to support that minimum funding um analysis so over the next month in December January we conducted our analysis of the minimum funding requirements we to identify where re short resource shifts need to occur we provided some draft findings to the finance office in early 2025 and as Dr Libby mentioned since December we have convened four

025community of practice meetings with the other school districts that we are working with in the state we're also supporting Baltimore County Caroline County Howard County and recently we just added Queen ANS County uh these cop meetings are um an opportunity discuss Concepts like targeting Investments for English Learners and special education students uh in January we focused on looking at how we're going about that minimum funding analysis looking at disparities and spending by school and then earlier this month we had a session talking about communicating blueprint changes kind of best practices for how we communicate out budget changes that sort of thing um right now our team is really focused on developing recommendations for shifting how the district may consider allocating resources like staff in future budget years um post fy2 uh like I said on

026the previous slide there are a number of data points that we're looking at we're looking at what we found from the minimum funding analysis this fall the Staffing data and we have plans to present those uh data visualizations graphs charts findings to the district later this spring and we are also working on that draft uh communication plan and corresponding materials My Hope Is that we will have templates we'll have some guidance materials they will be hopefully useful for you as board members so that you can communicate out to other partners you know families staff and the community about blueprint and then the next slide please so there are some upcoming policy decisions um around blueprint as we know many many policy decisions but I'm focused specifically on these around resource allocation um one of the

027most challenging parts of blueprint implementation is that there are so many moving pieces you have lots of strategic Partners supporting you we are focused on this particular area the challenge is coordinating all these things across multiple uh departments in your District some of this is owned by different folks in your District to oversee and there is a lot up in the air at the state level obviously that influences how you all can do your job and what you need to do to keep the ball rolling with this so unlike Esser blueprint is not a huge sum of money that's coming in all at once instead it's a slow roll out of promised funds implemented over several years and to be honest I don't know which is harder for you to plan um plots all at

028once or a little bit over a long period of time they both have their challenges um that being said we know there are some upcoming policy decisions that will influence budgets in the upcoming years uh we're going to see changes in the way uh PGCPS allocates resources the law requires a minimum funding level by school our work together will hopefully help inform the development of the FY 27 budget that will get more schools closer to meeting that threshold and I I know I mentioned this in the fall but we don't want to shift around resources on paper only um there is a way we could make the accounting look like resources are going to a school by you know tagging things a certain way but that's not going to bring about change for students we

029want to make sure that resources are going to the schools and the children that need it the most and so to do this fully it it really is going to take more than one budget cycle um this isn't something that can just be switching a couple levers in the funding formula this is going to be a long-term plan over time um right now um the formula as it structured requires some segmenting of cost you know there's x amount for English learner students and we don't want to think about things in those silos anymore we want to think about how funding can serve multiple students across multip groups and so hopefully the information that we bring to you to analyze this spring can help you think more across schools across student groups rather than just thinking

030about funding as it comes in through those blueprint buckets um there's definitely likely going to be shifts of Staff between schools in order to get to this minimum funding amount um to better align Staffing with student need it means that some schools May gain some positions some others may lose as the student-based budgeting formula is adjusted and because of that it is really important that we make sure that that communication plan includes how we are talking about these changes to principles as well as labor groups we want to make sure that everybody is on board and understands how decisions were made about these changes because we want everyone to be on board with knowing you know this is the goal we're trying to get to this is not meant to be punitive this is meant

031to be done in a way that is truly targeting resources to students in schools that need it the most so that is all I have for my presentation today I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have that I am able to answer and that's the end of our presentation um thank you Miss Welsh Dr Libby and the team um colleagues um this is an opportunity for I think uh for a round of questions and then we'll decide if we need a second round um board member Boozer struther board member Briggs board member walker uh in that order all right thank you so much um there's there's just so much first let me just say that you know I've been with you with your team from the very start and the progression and the

032implementation with Fidelity of the blueprint is something that we are PGCPS proud of and our colleagues throughout this state have been complimenting and watching um we are in the midst of bills that are about to under that could undermine this if pasted as is um and of course per pupil funding uh the Community Schools uh funding and pauses that are in s sp4 29 and then I'm reading Senate Bill 852 and you just presented our you know absolutely you know celebrated middle and high school career counseling program where I have a bill here that says the whole thing should just be eliminated so Dr liby do we do we stay the do we stay the course do we stay the course no matter what happens with these bills I mean I this bill can take

033away the College and Career funding do we grab the funding otherwise and keep going I mean this is I have to give a little bit of context to my colleagues today because I just came from the state board meeting where some very unkind things were said about this board and our use of data our understanding of data our taking in of data our moving with our superintendant and our leaders on that data and during the break I challenged the leader of that state board to tell me if we were not supposed to take in the data of the Carwin commission and move this school system to adequacy and academic results so I come to this meeting tonight in in one of my advocacy places because we cannot win no matter which way we go so

034Dr Libby is this plan moving the needle and do we stick with the plan no matter what the law that we figure out how to keep going with this plan yes stay the core there was a meeting yesterday with um internal PGCPS and the University of Maryland and one of the topics was collaborative planning teachers need collaborative planning that's part of blueprint that's part of the what they want to pause not end but pause so that means they want to it was supposed to start in 2026 they they meaning the state government wants to push it out to you know further years and then continue it until 202 32 so yes stay the course in terms of career counseling the bill from the way I read it right now the funds are a pass through

035so we receive the funds and then we we pay pgcc and employee Prince George's I think the bill is saying that either all the funds come directly to the school system or the funds can go directly to EPG and employ Prince Georges or or to pgcc so they they are not saying get rid of career counseling they're just trying to change the model but yes please stay the course thank you um board members St booer St I'll give you another round in just a moment uh I don't think you're finished uh board member Briggs and then board member Walker all right well thank you so much Dr Libby um in team and um it's I think it's good to know that we have someone who has like uh is really looking at this think broadly

036around what we need to do budget-wise just given many of the implications that um bmer Str Shar as well as I think what we know to be true but the nice thing is that I don't think we necessarily need a law to tell us to do certain things and states can continue to I mean school districts can continue to do what they want to do um but this just bolsters that that that responsibility I did have a question for um Miss bergfield because one it was really good to hear the presentation and um to know that you all are looking at this specifically for like the FY 27 budget which I think is like a um just I think you mentioned this already but there's a lot happening in Annapolis it's been mentioned um that's

037going to change things I did want to know um so the first question was just around like how long is the TA um I know that I'm assuming aib is like partnering but how long is that Grant like how long will you be partnering with PGCPS through June 30th oh okay all right so this the presentation that we're going to get is going to be the end of our time with with them with West Ed um is there like a extension or continuation that aib has with any of that not aib I've not been told that they plan to continue anything obviously we are happy to continue supporting Prince George's but it would not be through aib I see they they I the aib didn't have funds but they are looking to possibly continue with

038some of the Partners I see okay that's good nothing nothing's guaranteed right now okay um and then I just wanted to know and I guess this is really Dr liby team um or Miss bergfield but like what what's the research question that you all are answering I got the idea around like the scope of work that you're addressing but was just curious what that is sure that's a really good question I mean I think right now we're trying to understand how are resources currently being allocated and so we're the data we have available is fy2 so that's what we're analyzing how are resources currently being being allocated in alignment with student need and so looking at how the SBB formula like the proportion of funds that go through SBB the proportion of funds that are

039being centralized and then deployed down to schools there's lots of because we are looking at the minimum funding and that was part of our analysis we see sorry I help me quick we see sort of the accounting side of it as well as how it's reaching schools like so long answer is how are resources currently being allocated as it relates to student need such as certain student populations I see okay and it sounds like implicated as some of the systems and the way that we do things here yes all right thanks um board member Walker absolutely thank you guys for this presentation it's always so great to see the work that we're doing in PGCPS and you guys really articulate it well so I love this state of course we're all in um you know

040I know a number of us were super excited when we heard data visualization um that's something that we've been asking for forever in 50 days I think that this is an opportunity an amazing opportunity to show how the blueprint has really shown up in PGCPS by the work that you already done like how we've planned and how we've executed and so this is more to Dr Moss um I think that we have an opportunity to intertwine that in this narrative that we're giving to our legislators because we're talking about the bills and the Four Points that we want to keep here but what if now we use some of this information and told the story about how it really hits into PGCPS specifically and I think a lot of what they showed here was really

041really um good so maybe Dr Libby um you know I'm not one to give anybody work but maybe if you were to think about it overnight you could shoot us um like a summary of what you're saying so that then we can bulleti it and be able to tell that story like you've already shared it today but we want you to craft the narrative versus us to think we are crafting it for you I think that'll be super helpful in our journey as we try to Advocate more and more because you're doing some awesome work thank you so much um the other piece I had was can you talk to me in this last minute about what the data visualization is like what would it look like um well I we're still in the middle

042of analyzing it and I think oh got you I think that's going to dictate how we present it is what we're able to tell you um my team I I imagine we have lots of charts and graphs probably the first pass will be in Excel to get an like first draft get some feedback on what we're presenting um if there's an opportunity we can think about how we could put that into something like Tableau that's more interactive okay depends on the time and how much back and forth there is on what we found no that makes sense just was trying to get a feel around from your perspective what would data visualization look like as a results of everything you know right now and which you presented to us but that's fine thank you um

043thank you all so much for that round uh we'll have a second round I want to ask a question before we begin the second round though um board member Briggs asked this question really around research que um uh so I'm curious if the research team is looking at the rate of change that's happening um but also some predictions around some some what if predictions so if these Investments can continue at this way how might it impact outcomes long term so looking at the rate of Investments that's coming from the blueprint saying this is the kind of progress the district is making if these Investments continue we can predict out in 10 years we could see this kind of success right so modeling that out with some type of regression analysis they're saying these are actually

044actually statistically significant findings because of these Investments we see that these factors are contributing to success in a statistically significant way and if the persist um which means these Investments persist we could see this kind of success long term is that part of your research model um as you think about doing this work and then secondly I know y'all are leaving I'd love for Dr liby to think about like what does this mean for the work moving forward um but yeah those are the two thoughts I have and uh Dr Moss I'm assuming that question was for me okay so no unfortunately we're not able to answer your question about outcomes so right now the question is how are resources currently being allocated so that we can have an understanding of what shifts need to

045be made your point to studying that further that's absolutely something our team can do we have plenty of resources available to do those kinds of regressions and links to impact studies and outcomes that's just outside of the scope of what this work is is um but would be happy to talk about that you know in the future and how we could kind of bridge that Gap to identify you know maybe there's particular Investments that you would want attention and and you know looking under the hood on a few particular Investments we are definitely well versed in Impact evaluations in that way I know you all are I'm pushing it here did you want me to respond yeah I I I know this seems like a resource that's going to disappear soon um I got too

046excited only to learn that it was disappear so correct so when the aib last school year asked each Lea who do you want to partner with I wanted partners for all of my areas but in particular resource allocation because again this was the the the part of blueprint that is ever moving and it's hard to understand and it's hard to keep up so what West dead and Tara has been able to do is help us to to understand what the state is asking of us and as you know Chief how and her team they don't have the dedicated time to just focus on blueprint and it's enormous I mean I'm just giving you a snippet of some of the things for blueprint and we talk about career counseling we talk about the career ladder and

047the funding for a career ladder we're talking about pillar one and the resources we're going to need for space for prek and it just goes on and on and on so we would need the assistance to continue with resource allocation if the aib if they say we're going to have funding the first partner I'm going to ask for is Tara and West Ed to come back to help PGCPS with resource allocation I appreciate you we'll move to our second round and I'll start with board member booer Str and then board member Briggs and then board member walker uh Bri board member Briggs had his hand up first OHS okay um so I just want to say one I think we're all on this it sounds like we're all on the same page that there needs

048to be kind of a continuation of this and that was really the question um that I was going to get at was that I think Beyond Dr if Libby if you can speak to this like beyond the study that's happening right now and the information that we'll we'll gain from that um is there the ability like the scope of what the aib is requiring part of blueprint is there latitude is there flexibility to kind of adjust to iterate on the information that you gain or is it like everything is kind of a research driven question based on stipulations that they have coming from the Abby can you just clarify like how that works in in how the building on would happen so the the aib the W best way for me to say this is

049they put together a plan they said this is what the LA's need but they weren't really sure what we needed until we got into it until they saw the plan read the plans and then said oh okay we need to do this and this and this so again an Ever moving Target because it's like we're all learning together at the same time and I've said it since in the past two or three years and you all have heard this we're not just building the plane we're putting on the wheels and the wings in the engine as we're doing the work and that's why these Partners these strategic partners are so important okay so and I think you I think you've alluded to it but like the flexibility that your team has to drive this how

050like how much does your team have flexibility to say like this is where we're going to go next based on what information we've we've gathered I'm seeing faces so okay yeah I don't yeah we don't have flexibility it's what the aib is telling us to do okay okay that's good to know okay that was my question you good Bard member Briggs you got 28 seconds all right board member booer Str yeah thank you uh spefic specific questions is the power school up and running requiring the monthly reports it's up I don't know if it's running but it's up so Lisa Howen team are still um putting in the data because that's the other thing because Tara knows we talked about power school probably in November or so and Tara was asking well how can I

051assist and Lisa's like we're so busy trying to do this and this and this we we haven't had time to put in our data and information for for power school they have since then and again it's a ongoing kind of thing it's it's really PGCPS really needs a person dedicated for blueprint and budget I'm gonna be honest and and I've asked I've asked because again it's enormous and to really understand exactly what blueprint is asking and what the aib and MSD is asking of a asking the leas to do in terms of blueprint yeah I I definitely appreciate that we we could see how those conversations can progress through this budget cycle and as news comes out of Annapolis and the County Council on funding um and um I think we that help is needed

052if we're going to go into if they're going to send us into a really volatile um situation of the Billion Dollar Cuts over eight years we're going to need just as much help to readjust to going back in time as we are um as we would moving forward as the plan was progressing through 2032 where we would be at adequacy of the programs and the funding um for our students the other question is um and and I had an opportunity to address uh data um today with MSD the expert review team reports so I noticed that the very first ones I think they actually were calling them Pilots which included Bradberry Heights and International High School Langley Park where it happened to be PGCPS as two schools those reports are up on a website they've

053been up there quite a while we had many expert review team uh come through our schools before the end of the last school year none of those reports are up so we I challenge that if you put pillar five on this board and then at the same time you criticize this board around our uh use of data and not put up expert review team reports at the same time we have a serious problem here so how does this board get the expert review team reports so I've only received the two from the schools that were visited last school year the two schools that you mentioned the other reports the expert review teams began in October November for visits I have not received any reports from msde thus far and the way MSD set it up

054it really goes everything really goes directly to the principal of that school well there were a whole bunch last year and I know Cesar Chavez had theirs before the school year wrapped up in June so I know there's more reports so you know th this is you know this this partnership um it's almost like our success there seems to be a desire politically to diminish our success and our momentum in the data and we know that the mcap data rela PGCPS contributed a high concentration of poverty Community Schools up that is disproportionately Us in city of Baltimore we're heading the right direction into the to the predicting data point we have that in the growth the growths per school that we've tracked for mcap that we got a lot of credit for in the education

055press um as well as this data that um Dr Wright uh shared in October so um I think we're tracking the data and responding so um thank you thank you thank you so much board member Walker you're muted board member oh there you go yes there it is I had to find the um the the mute Hey listen thank you so much I think board member bruer Str we I have so many questions just for her from her from this meeting today so that's just an offset of uh pieces that I was gonna say but the second one um I was gonna ask around budget and what does budget help look like but you did say that today so maybe we can make sure that we're clear on what that ask is so that we

056can go back and um inter try to intertwine that um maybe if I mean we're at the final stages for amendments but this is something that we know that we we will need um and I think the other one was a plan B I recognize that you all are working diligently just for plan a like let's move straight forward and you don't really have time to work on a plan B that might never come to fruition but I was wondering if you've put any thought to budget implications in the event that the bill is passed as is so we know right now what the efficiencies or cuts that are recommended are in the blueprint and as we go closer down this road of where it might go I'm sure that there's going to be budget

057implications for us and um I don't want to say dismantling but redoing readjusting uh where it is that we thought we were going and I think that that might be helpful just to keep those Communications Line open with the uh Administration so that as they do the reconciliation that that in there because that's not going to come before we vote on Thursday but as you do that work just keep them first of mind because we'll need that in there during the reconciliation process for sure make sense it's more comments that I had okay thanks guys very nice presentation well thank you all for coming tonight um I certainly appreciated this presentation it's helpful it's very Illuminating for the work that you all have been doing thank you for the work that you have been doing

058thank you for the work that you will do um just seeing the technical assistance align to the pillars was super helpful tonight um so I certainly appreciate your work and um we look forward to having you all back uh at the committee uh in the future um thank you thank you have a good evening do the same at this time we're going to move to 3.2 uh the chair will recognize Miss Welsh for the legislative update Miss Welsh good evening um s I sent you something to post so we could just go through some bills this evening is she on I don't see her oh there you are okay um it's a little small but um I don't I know I know we don't have time to go through all of them so what I

059and many of them were I'm still waiting on fiscal notes to come up with positions but uh Shelby have put together a list of bills that are coming up for next week for hearings perfect thank you um and so I thought I could quickly go through some of these just to give you an update I do want to say that at the May meeting on Monday uh they did discuss um different Bill several different bills but they spent a good amount of time discussing the Excellence and education Bill and what was the next step and at this point I it seems um that um everyone sort of all over the place one of the things that I may wanted to do was to come up with some very um like specific things that all the

060school systems systems can agree to and but then different board members said well that's not really true for our County and this is not really true for our County and so there were some variations so then they talked about trying to put together um something that they would be sharing with us as well as with uh with the legislators um I guess the governor's office in the meantime pazam also is working with the governor's office to come together with some um some um amendments to the bill however they're not in a position at this point to really share anything as well as um there's a lot of I think behind the scenes conversation going on so um no one wants to move forward formally yet until they gather a little bit more information I think

061in terms of positions where people stand that type of thing what they did share though at the at one of these meetings mayber Pam was that um the legislators were we pretty impressed with the fact that the superintendent numerous super superintendant as well as Boards of that members came and testified and just the the outcry from people especially as it relates to um the impact for the uh Community Schools and the uh Foundation uh formula with it as for the collaborative time those were two probably of the of the of everything they were two of the biggest areas that I think impact them the most um so um but they at this point I think people are doing a lot of behind the scenes work to try to make some I guess see where how

062far they can push on some of these things as far as for us I do know and I have had even conversations with our H chief of HR as far as you know their program they have in place well that they're going to put in place so that basically MSD is doing all the Recruitment and all these other things and all the money they're putting in MSD to do these types of programs and she is concerned because generally what happens in situations like that it causes the local school systems to do extreme amount of leg work on their end to even get some money which is not um is very different than this is your funding formulas is what you're getting because everything is going to be Grant funded so you go through extreme amounts

063of work to be able to get what uh there're supposed to be providing you when you probably could do the job much better you know locally so so um I don't know at this I can't give any direction because I think everyone's sort of at that point of trying to gather more information so that they can share that in you know share the information um we do have a Green Street meeting coming up on Friday and I'm hoping at that meeting um because both made representative and and the the director of Pam are both there and they hopefully can maybe provide a little bit more information as far as what the status is for moving forward uh with that that particular bill um then as far as just um just quickly I can go through

064some of these bills um there is House Bill 773 which has to do with uh student discipline rights and um we are definitely opposing that bill because it really is again legislation dictating how how what disciplinary actions we need to take when students do different things it's very very specific and of course that's the role of of both the Board of Education and the administration as we put together the student of conduct and so that is not um an appropriate role for that for them um the next thing is um uh let's see uh can you scroll down and I highlighted the ones so that we can can quickly get to them oh the okay this is U the water safety and swimming instruction um um content plan and Reporting so I I had our

065supervisor of um of physical Ed she did an analysis of this and provided some um uh pretty significant information she basically said that the cost of to be able to do that and um my I have these pictures I need to get rid of this picture thing anyway the the cost of that is around would cost us annually about $46 million now um the part of it is of course just putting the curriculum together providing the training and everything but the biggest part is about ensuring that the students have access to the swimming pools uh where because when you take together all the the um transport transportation and working out different agreements with different uh pools that it would be um uh pretty extensive um so they they I what she said was we would

066need at least three resource teachers to oversee each level and plan this program out collaborating with parks and planning and other private entities teachers would definitely need training yearly and throughout the year swim instructors um we would have to we would need some swim instructors just because you're a PE instructor doesn't mean that you are necessarily a swimming instructor so that would be a whole another Factor um and then um the in terms of um being able to get to um the other thing we would need substitutes so as we taking kids out of the building and going to different to and you like if you're taking a whole group of kids for a lesson you may have to take not just one teacher but a couple teachers which means you would have to have

067substitutes in those classes and then the other thing would be that um the um the just coordinating the the training and the substitute coverage uh the being able to get to the pools um and and making sure the students you know were there and then they're safe um also providing spading suits for students who maybe do not have bathing suits I mean she was listing out a lot of these things um she shared that the expense could be close to 46 million for the first year and then slightly less because the well the training would would be ongoing I guess but slightly less in the remaining years so it is a pretty expensive Endeavor for that particular bill and if you have I um Dr MZ I don't know how you want to do this

068if people have questions and they want to they want to ask them as we go through these or uh just just keep going and ask at the end whatever you want to do is fine with me um so if we could have a conversation about the priority ones that you've highlighted I'll entertain a round of questions for the board members this is one that I think is up next week we've gotten some questions about and so I want to make sure board members can ask questions about this one in particular um so just those priority ones I think we we certainly want to make um a space for this and this is one of those so do any board members have questions about HB 11127 oh looks like board member Walker I'm sorry I didn't

069see your hand initially oh no problem no problem at all Hey listen I would I had a couple questions about this one I know that we are revamping how we give fiscal note information um this particular bill was noted not to have a fiscal um note to it originally U not for yeah originally so I think that with this one maybe it makes sense to I did request a meeting like maybe it makes sense to kind of hear where this particular delegate wants to go on this bill so we can understand it a little bit more sometimes it's cool perhaps to hear like to read it and know what it's really trying to say uh because there's a big push and for some reason a thought that already exists within our schools I was wondering

070your thoughts on that Robin I know it's not the first year that we've had this bill in front of us as well um I don't know if there was ever a deeper discussion with the particular delegates about this particular one what's your remembrance or thoughts I do know that we had this this bill did come up last year and for stronger language in it than it did this year than it does have this year uh because I think it's offering a little bit of flexibility and the pool usage versus almost making you you know you have to absolutely have a pool here and there but it's still an expensive Endeavor um and I know last year my understanding of course I didn't have this conversation but my understanding is that there was conversation with the

071delegate related to the fact that and not because we don't want you know uh water safety because that's critically important and when you consider where we live you know there's a lot of bodies of water around um but more because of just the expense to be able to implement the B okay um well thank you very much I am um noting that we do have severe expenses within deficits within our own spaces uh and recognizing that I also recognize that our Scholars need need swim so thank you so much for this right here I think there's just a followup on um on this end um thanks so much uh board member booer Str yeah thank you Miss Welch who funds the existing swimming lessons I know that a particular grade in elementary school I think

072it's second um does go to em you know Parks and Recreation pools during the school day and I understand that that is still happening is that a parks and wreck budget and it is how manys I'm sorry sorry I have this information so we do we we are involved in a partnership called make a splash partnership and it's with uh uh MNC PPC parks and planning um and it's for a subset of our second graders and 45 of our schools uh and it's for this this this year 2425 it includes classroom instruction pool instruction a parks and planning facilities portions of this program are funded by parks and planning as they have keep the pools train and hire the water safety instruct instructors provide bathing suits to the students that show a need uh at

073this time uh the schools provide um just the cost of of you know buses to transport them sort like almost like a field trip they're covering that cost as well as substitutes for the staff they need that are needed so our costs are not that significant because it looks like perks and planning are picking up a big part of that training of that cost all right thank you so that's a little more than a third of all elementary school students that could have this opportunity in second grade if the program was at this size year-over-year okay you got 50 seconds board member Bo Str do you have more oh only you know what what board member Walker said about the um you know the implications of s429 taking you know we don't have any more

074money for unfunded mandates nor for the mandates we're already trying to cover um so I know that there's some other bills that get deeper into needs that contribute to the academic achievement data that we are held accountable to um so I think we need to talk about those a little more first thank you board member boo Str board member Walker I think we may have lost board member Walker um Robin I also think it might be good oh I'm here I'm so sorry there you go no I might be in the woods sorry all right um you want to try now I see thank you so much yeah yeah yeah this is perfect thank you so much um I'm ready to go on to some other bills as well this will be my last comment

075on this one here I was wondering if because there's a third of the second graders that have this opportunity now that's already funded by Park and planning uh do we know or is it to the bill proposer to check with parking planning to see if this is an extension that they want to have with the remaining um second grade population or third grade population for instance is that them that do that work it's for my own understanding is it the delegates job you mean to Yes um I would assume so I don't know if they're they're even aware of this um okay yeah okay because I'm wondering if okay thank you so much that's really helpful um you know at this point I would advise if if the am we'll move on to other bills

076but I think um we should probably refrain from issuing a letter around us at this point until we've had an opportunity to talk to the delegate and offer this rationale Robin I doubt you've moved forward with a letter I just just wanted to say it uh but at this point I think the the board um uh should just refrain until we have had a conversation with the delegate to explain this potential um okay um I think we've got like maybe two or three other bills that are really important coming up this week that I know you want to talk about Robin so I want to make sure you have the board has the committee has time to talk through those so do you want to go to your next ones um I can get um

077yes if you want to um I know did you want to talk again about House Bill 935 yep that's the athletic bill right right I don't have that on this chart but I can C we can certainly have that conversation if you would like to um um talk about it but it's not I don't have it listed for um that one if you'll just give the committee an overview of what's happening with that one and then if we can do delegate to's two bills that have come up for review just to voice over the new work on those I think uh I think we'll be good um and then we can share this out with uh the committee what you've already done around this work if that's fine with you oh that's fine absolutely um

078so as far as House Bill 935 um the um right now it sits in the budget that that for this 2025 school year that there would be 20 new trainers athletic trainers that and specifically for the use of football games um and at this point um I think they've been able to hire oh excuse me I should say 12 athletic trainers and they've been able to hire four of them they it's difficult first of all they said to find them just because they're such a shortage of athletic trainers and um they they didn't provide any figures but I I went and looked up their job description and went to the uh salary scales and everything and basically looked at the middle of the scale you know because I know that generally speaking you're you're going

079to get someone with you hope to get someone with some experience uh and just to be safe in the middle of the scale the salary is around $887,000 per trainer and so far we have four so we still have uh another eight yet to hire but there's 20 high schools and this Bill is saying for every single high school so therefore we would need to uh and and her um Charley digs who the super supervisor of e she her understanding was that that um the plan was to put that into the budget for 2026 but I do know that um through going through the budget process not and I know we still have many steps in that process but from internally that just because you might have stuck it in your budget doesn't necessarily mean

080that it's there at this point just because of because for of all you know us the system struggling to to meet all the the needs that they have um but that's still another um eight that would have to be budgeted for for the upcoming year um and so the um uh the total cost for all of that for the entire school year um is that you're talking about I mean to get all 20 schools done would be 1,746 uh, 680 now that does not include benefits that's straight salary and and you can do a broad uh like estimation and say you when think about benefits around 30 33% of the cost of salary that's usually your cost of benefits so if you took that figure actually and multipied it multiplied it by 33% you prob

081could add that on which would be pretty significant so and as so what they've been doing is um to make up the difference for the um for this is for the trainers is using EMTs but that's difficult at times because there's there's a shortage of EMTs fortunately we have developed some relationships with the EMTs and so they continue to try to work with the EMTs to make them to have them come um but there is um we have the 16 of the schools definitely are using EMTs and they are um they have nine games each so it's a total of 144 games in total um and one game cost $140 because it's 4H hour game at $35 an hour and that ends up being $220,000 20,000 $2,160 which is not anywhere near what the trainers

082are but again you're you're praying that you can get the EMTs um you know for the meeting for the game when you don't have the um uh trainers so the we don't have any issues with the idea of having trainers and having trainers and and or EMTs or whatever at meetings from the safety when you think about safe for safety for students except that this is an unfunded mandate um and um we don't even know if we can continue to fund it for the following year but now we might have legislation that says You must do this um and the system is attempting to do everything they can to have that support the other thing that and one of the pizam me that came up is that they did share the concern that this could

083that down the road this would be the first step and then eventually down the road they would be requiring um um having athletic trainers like at like all the games um because kids can get injured you know in soccer games and you know lots of different sports that they play and so then that would definitely increase your cost down the road so um I know that um everyone is opposing it just because of of its cost we did write support with amendments only from the standpoint of you know we you know we're not against safety we want safety for students it's just that the cost um that's a lot to mandate to for a school system thank you Robin um are there any comments or questions from committee members I've got some here but I

084want to defer to my colleagues first uh board member Walker thank you so much for looking into this so many times um Miss Welsh sincerely appreciate it I think my question is just so I can ensure that I understand um where we are and I don't disagree um about the cost and I know we're all in for safety for our Scholars on a football field for sure my question is is this correct we have 20 high schools and um our budget allows for 12 right now funding funding for 12 of our high schools at current state of those 12 we only have four that are hired but between a gap between 12 and 20 we have a gap of eight that's not funded at present time okay so in my right where okay so in

085my mind it becomes unfunded an unfunded mandate if the eight are not in the budget but it's a funded mandate if the eight are in the budget and the reason is because we're either we have the money to either pay the $87,000 per person to be there for athletic trainer or the EMT which significantly comes in under so I just was hoping you can fix my story wherever the narrative is incorrect just so I can get clear on whether it's funded or unfunded because I'm just hearing a little bit of back and forth on if it is or if it isn't and I think that that's at least my understanding of where the Gap is so it just in general a legislation that has a mandate where there's not a um amount of money that

086comes with it and it's a mandate that costs money it automatically makes it an unfunded mandate regardless of whether or not you have it in your budget or not um it's um now we don't generally in certain things that are you know that come across legislation that comes across that we are already doing we don't necessarily you know um We're Not Gonna I mean we'll do just like this we're not going to oppose it necessarily we'll do like support with amendments or whatever just because but it's still ultimately an unfunded mandate um and so you never want want the legislation I mean if you're going to do it yourself then you don't don't really want it to be mandated because you want you know we we're taking on that responsibility and willing to do it

087so that's you know that's basically it got it so really the push back isn't about us having it in our budget which is where my mind was going it's not about having it in your budget because I think what you're telling me which we didn't get to the answer if we're really funded for the eight but I think what you're telling me is regardless of if we're funded for all of them if it's legislated is where the definition is for if it's unfunded that is correct yeah okay I wait okay thanks um okay I there there are two thoughts that I have here about this bill one I I really like the concept but there seems to be two unique challenges here that we've not solved for PGCPS has been the front has been on

088the um on the front line with this um we were thought about this early on but we've not been able to hire people for this um I I grew up most folks know this I grew up in Mississippi where I was the assistant principal at a high school we actually had an athletic a program that would actually train students to actually serve in these roles and they would actually get the certification they would leave the career in technical education center so I do think that there's an opportunity to work with this delegate around if we've got 12 spots already budgeted for this work I think we can have a win if we find a pipeline of people to fill these roles that we already have for athletic trainers so I think that is such an

089opportunity also wonder if there's an opportunity I know we have not gotten there yet around suggesting amendments to people um this might be a bit easier to swallow too if the language said when funds are available right rather than saying you've got to do this all the time because this district is doing it based on on funds available so I do appreciate the posture of the administration that's say you know with amendments but um Miss Welsh I I may be missing the Mark I know we have an amazing um CTE program over at Crossland do we have a program at at Crossland that trains athlet students to go into athletic training to be able to get certified I would have to check that out for you okay all right but I think there's some opportunities

090to build this up I think this is right I think we need safety and all of this at games and whatnot but sounds like the biggest hurdle is actually getting Staffing for you know an athletic trainer um at this spot but I think we should look into it this is another one of those measures where I think we have a conversation with the delegate around where why we have the posture that we have but it sounds like there's an opportunity for us to work on some pipeline work as well to achieve the delegates goals um I just want to lay that out do my other colleagues have any any final thoughts around this and then I want to go to the other two bills so we can finish the rest of our work tonight okay

091see see there none Robin if you could talk a bit about um I I want to frontload this one a little bit as you talk about him HB 359 and uh HB 379 I want to frontload this and say we gave intense feedback to the delegate and the delegate might have listened to us I don't know how often this happens um but the delegate might have listened to us and made some amendments to the bill um and we can start with whatever wherever you want to go Robin um 379 or 359 so these were the two local bills correct yes these were the two local Bill the uh delegat to varys's bills so at this point uh find these up here um 79 was uh uh fentol consumption yes then team pregnancy support was 359

092right so we we um that we are uh I mean we haven't really changed our position in any way because with the of the um uh let me hold on a minute I'm just trying to you're good I'll I'll voice over this while you find what you need I brought this back to the committee because on 379 around the preventative measures for fentanyl consumption the delegate actually changed the bill that would want used to require us to actually actually passed them out and procure them now it only has a reporting requirement that we just report on the number of test trips we actually passed out this year so that's 37 so she completely changed the bill with an amendment um I somehow they sent me the amendment and then on the teen pregnancy support bill

093they changed it from the center's language and also took our recommendation we said it was unfunded but um they had a funding stream that they had found but we weren't getting any of that to administer the program and so they put in the 15% administrative cost which was a recommendation from uh from us around the funding so I wanted to bring those back to the committee to give us an opportunity to um decide if we wanted to change our position or not um Robin did you want to say anything else there before I entertain committee members so I just I'm looking at the bill the drug detection Bill and um I don't see any amendments on it all right well I'm gonna afford them to you sounds like they didn't make it to you um

094I mean they're not they're not on the MGA site so where they post the bills okay well give me one second I'm forwarding them to you but I believe board member Boozer Str has her hand up while I for these to you okay yeah starting with um PG 50725 which is the HB 37 9 the testing strip products um so there is a fund that we can access to be able to provide these so that part of it so that part of it has always been in there um I thought we ended our last discussion in support uh with amendments or with with questions or further discussion um because this fit in with our our uh overdose prevention strategies so I hope we can do a letter that is clear about that support before the

095education committee meeting Thursday morning the um other one on supports for parenting students the big piece of it was was that we would have daycare centers and I mean we're not even getting Capital funding barely to build a building this year we cannot build 28 daycare centers until the legislature decides they're going to fund us for that so that was taken out that reality was take that they are taken out and that was a big change that the delegate made in our discussions I hope we can take a closer look I hope we can switch to support with amendments and get a new letter written and chair Moss I would look to you about how much we have to get through that here in this meeting or if we can take that work outside of

096the meeting now that that big piece has been taken out and I and I referenced bills that improve pos positive data the support of of parenting students would absolutely help to improve graduation rates as well as academic achievement rates and it would put us closer to back to the supports that the school system was well known for in the 90s to you know into the 2000s where there is um you know definitely um success you know the students graduated they're raising their families here and their their children are in our school system now so I think uh we owe this population getting back to the resources needed and and these support the academic gains that we are held accountable too yeah I appreciate you um I so I'm not going to expect the administration to

097respond to this immediately I think the board can issue uh a support position if the committee so wishes um and we can get that letter drafted I know Robin has not had a chance to review these amendments on the behalf of the administration um but I I I do support the notion of being able to provide support letters from these one we struggle to get delegates to respond to us and take our feedback to change things and this delegate did it and I don't see any um any adversarii nature so if board member Walker board member Briggs and you board member brother St are on board with the board actually sending a letter of support I am fine with that but um the administration would need time before they send a letter to change their

098position am I right in that assumption Miss Welsh yes because again both bills even the the other one is 359 nothing on the MGA site shows are the amendments are in place at this point I got you I fored you the ones that I have we'll check that again in the morning too but I do want to give you all time as the administration to do that board member Walker yes I am in support of based on the revisions to draft a support letter I do think before we send anything formally that we do need it up on the site and um that's going to be imperative for us to be able to match that uh the site information with the bill to our position for the bill especially given that it will be different

099than what the administration is saying so let's just make sure we have our te's crossed as well on that piece for the language that was taken out thank you absolutely uh board member Briggs I I know you didn't raise your hand but I do need to hear your voice on this uh before I proceed s i i consent to what was shared I'm in agreement with the changes okay with the additional caveat that it's actually public information okay and I and and and Miss Welsh we can we can connect in the morning as well I don't want to put the administration on you know because you all haven't had a chance to review it and talk to all of your team members so we can just huddle back on that perspective and I I do

100know that until we actually see it on the site where the bill is changed I I just know we wouldn't move forward um and making any changes until we knew for a fact it you know it was in place I am looking they do have the fiscal note up um now so with the with this is uh what 379 I think I think we'll follow the administration 39 but um but no as soon as as soon as we get the information you know that we actually see it on the site and everything we can discuss it and um and you know definitely will let you know you know what where the administration stands on this so and my apologies I thought you had those amendments I I would have sent them to you sooner uh

101than now so my apologies okay that the concern is is that if they haven't for like the 359 if they haven't made changes as it relates to CTE program it's just not uh easy thing where you can just say oh we're going to put a CTE program here and a CTE program here we don't we're not charge of that it's actually MSD you have to go through an entire approval process and the other issue is based based on how the bill is written it would it's make it's like well we're going to move here we're going to move this program over here because now we have kids here or we're going to move this program here because and we don't have that capability to be moving programs all over the place because space is a

102major issue especially since we're talking little preschoolers in high school so um that that that is another concern so I'll be C ious to see the the finalized bill with the amendments to see because I I think just from an operational standpoint I you know it's a great idea it's just that I don't know that it's even possible especially if we can't get MSD approval on the CTE programs yeah yeah I understand I think if you look at the amendment some of that language was struck um but I got two two colleagues who um have their hand up board member Walker and then board member booer Str yes this will be just quickly thank you I just wanted to reconfirm that the strips bill is one um it Still Remains no fiscal note for PPS

103and then the second piece I wanted just to reconfirm is that um the training that's happening inside that the um the granter is providing the training that's needed for our um great question questions and I lost her um P Bo Str I think you might have that context too so I'll recognize you well I I was just going to speak to the other Bill around the um support with amendments that we would be carefully looking at those operational aspects that just if if there are others that have not been changed besides the um the actual daycare um around CTE that's exactly what I mean by support with amendments that we will be very clear about the the issues of imple implementation and um you know as we go into this I just want to assure

104assure my colleagues that that is absolutely on my mind too but I I do have to see the final amendments as well all right well I think we have a plan to deal with this this bill um Robin before we go to um policy first consideration is there another bill that you and Shelby need us to talk through um I think we've got time for maybe one more and then we can move to policies for first consideration I know built this nice list so I want to make sure we satisfy what you need so I will say there is a bill that's coming up for an hearing um this uh week uh next week excuse me and it has to do with Medicaid funding and it and I think this is a critical bill that

105there should be um testimony submitted it has to do it's uh what they're doing is making a change and it's on this uh list that I sent um if I can find it and we're at risk of losing um oh here we go it's Med Maryland medical assistance program use of reimbursement funds by schools uh it's Senate Bill 506 House Bill 689 and what it does it's um it talks about that you can only use your funds for medicate for certain specific things they're putting a lot of limitations in it um and and as what in terms of what special Edge shared with us they said as a result of the legislation the district anticipates a loss of 11.76 million um which directly supports child's uh critical services for students with disabilities this loss uh

106will create a significant deficits in the district's annual operating budget impacting Central programs and resources that serve our most vulnerable students additionally the restrictive nature of the bill will require the district to reallocate funds further string our ability to maintain Uh current levels of support of course we oppose it um thank you board member board member Briggs your hand went up real quick I got you well yeah Mrs Welsh I was just goingon to say if you could if you could just repeat that one more time because I caught the lat the the end of it the tail end of it please what I read you mean yeah what you read oh okay okay we have a pose it says and this comes directly from special our special uh um Department as a result of

107the legislation the district anticipates a revenue loss of 11.76 million which directly supports critical services for students with disabilities um the um the law this loss will create significant deficit in dist the district's annual operating budget impacting essential programs and resources that serve our most vulnerable students additionally the restrictive nature of the bill will require the district to reallocate f further straining our ability to maintain current levels of support okay so yeah I was what I was trying to clarify was like what what was being changed um with Medicare that or Medicaid that was causing um those consequences so just this is a I I can pull the bill but just as a quick synopsis here it says requiring the bill requires elementary schools secondary schools and County School Systems to use certain funds received

108for services provided under Maryland's Medicaid assistance program or the Maryland children's health insurance program to provide additional positions for providers paid internships for students seeking to become provider stiens designed to address problems in provider Recruitment and Retention and stiens for providing working working providers working in low per uh performing schools designed to encourage uh provider Recruitment and Retention so in essence they're telling them what they're going to use the money for and in the past um the Medicaid funds when they came in you were restricted by what you could bill for you know like OT PT speech uh psych Services those kinds of things you could bill for but once you received the money then you as a school system determined it had to be used for special education but it was the school system's

109determination of where to best use that those funds you know to provide the services for students I see okay thank you Rob I don't see the uh board member uh Brie you you got more before I ask something real quick y uh who is the bill sponsor uh let me I have to pull it up for you um get there we go um colleagues um this as she sorts through this I'm just curious if we want to the administration's already opposed it we'll also need to decide if we want to offer testimony around this given the impact on the district next week um I do think we need to make that decision um while we're here the house bill is uh uh sponsored by delegate adaberry and it's cross fired with 506 and the Senate

110bill is Senator Henson okay okay got you um any other thoughts from colleagues on this one I know the admin uh go go ahead board member boo I I agree with the administration on this one so if the board wanted to take a position I think Administration has analyzed this in a in a way that me meets my understanding of how we operate um board member Walker yeah based on what I heard tonight I'm tend to be aligned as well I just was wondering if any colleagues have spoken to um delegate Adel or um Senator Henson on this one here by chance I know I haven't on this one what's the what's the um HB number please Robin it's uh House Bill 689 689 okay thank you okay we we'll we'll jump back with jentel

111and um yeah how to proceed and if she uh needs any information just tell her to contact me you know I can help her okay um Robin you're good on these before I move to 4.0 yeah that's that's good all right thank you so much for your hard work uh on that table if you'll send the Full Table to the board too that'll be great but again thank you I know it's lots of work to try to keep up with all this so huge thanks to you and Shelby for keeping us AB breast we're going to move to uh 4.0 um which is policies for first consideration these are discussion items there are two items for discussion tonight each member will have two rounds per item during the discussion each round will be 2.5 minutes

112we're going to start with 4.1 policy 3415 school-based management teams the chair recognizes Miss Welsh for an overview of policy 3415 school-based management teams Cindy can you uh post that policy okay so School based management teams this is a policy we already have um um did not have much in but um except to say there will be a school-based management team and what's what who will be involved in the management team so I have gone through to make uh changes um uh in in the language so the first thing is as far as your policy statement um and this really goes um to um parent involvement Community involvement engagement um as your staff engagement because what you're doing is you're committed to school-based decision- making but it's which is interal to the school improvement process

113but also that you want a school-based management team that's representative of the demographics of the student population and then that family yeah the board believes that family and Community engagement is a shared responsibility and an essential component for improving the academic outcomes of our students and we do have that we we not only just say that in this particular policy but we also have it in our board policy 0105 which is a parent family and Community involvement um and so the purpose of the policy is to provide guidelines for the composition and function of the school based management team ensuring that it represents all components of Staff parents and the community so I do have definitions um as it references um a couple of the unions um so the um the composition for standards as

114far as who needs to be on the school-based management team of course a school administrator and then a representative of the faculty advisory Council that if you look at the definition it's actually um a contractually mandated school-based committee which serves to voice concerns for the Prince George's County Education Association members of of the principal of the principal of the school so members of that particular Council would then become members of the school-based management team and as well as then representatives from each of the following employee organizations which is local 2250 and local 400 which I did put definitions in mainly just so that um um you that you can see who who of our staff belong to which Union so you know who would be involved in these meetings and then it would be the

115president of the PTA PTSA PTO and other parent advisory groups shall appoint one representative so any groups that you have within the school and now I added this uh this piece and certainly you can take it out or add to it it's up to you but I did because we had such a conversation about um previously about the interviewing um the community based interviewing for principal I felt and this is just about school performance how the school's doing and what's happening in the school I did add a parent of a student receiving special education or Section 504 and I don't know if you want to add anything else specific to like the fact that you know our English language Learners um you know that that population that I mean it's something consider but I did

116I thought uh when you're talking about school uh performance and achievement and everything I definitely feel like it would be important to have at least a parent of a student that is receiving special ed services on that committee also um and then for the high schools uh student representative from the student government Association would also be included in the uh committee so then uh the committee serves as an advisory committee to the principal for each school and it works collaboratively you know all the different groups within the committee work together to provide recommendations and support to enhance student achievement and you can scroll down Cindy um and um and um so provides recommendation supports enhanced student achievement and overall school performance with an uh focus on the evidence-based student achievement and then um I did

117put in though and this was also in I I want to say it's in the administrative procedure that goes with it is that the decision M making however shall rest with the principal of the school so it the committee provides the advice and recommendations and then the the principal ultimately has to make a decision and the evident evidence-based student achievement is is really related to let's look at the data and see what the data is telling us about each of all of our students and each student group so then it says that the sbmt shall assist the principal in reviewing data on student performance and attendance teacher feedback Community input on a regular Bas basis to measure overall school performance success so it's broader than just student achievement because there's a lot of factors that

118go into a successful experience for a student so that's why I I said overall school performance success and these meetings shall be open to the public and meeting dates and time shall be publicized to the school community and minut shall be made read readily accessible to all stakeholders and staff um um just because and again this sort is in line with your policy 0105 as far as you know um parental Community engagement because in that particular policy it talks about the fact we want parents to be involved in the decision making and you know be informed about everything that's going on and then the last piece of the the uh policy that I added was uh that the superintendent or design shall provide professional development um regarding functions and processes of the smbt to its

119members annually so I I think it's important that the committee itself the team itself knows you know really know understands what their role is and you know and how they're going to operate if they're going to be S if they're going to have success uh you know as a committee in advising the principal um and then it just as you scroll down under implementation responsibilities it says that the superintendent is authorized develop administrative procedure uh procedure to implement this policy and then we have the parent family community involvement policy as another policy as well as we do have an administrative procedure to this policy so that's basically it in the nutshell thank you so much Miss Welsh um the question is shall the committee um recommend policy 3415 school-based management team to the policy sponsor

120for revision approval is there any discussion uh board member Briggs yeah thank you so much chair uh Moss um I Mrs Welsh I tried to like I looked up actually on board docs this policy before and I didn't get I didn't see the version that you had here so I referenced the old version that is there I think it was like last dat upd updated in like 2005 or so and that one it just so I had a few questions for you because I was trying to understand um I had some ideas about this policy so like the school-based management team I noticed that you didn't reference any state law so it's not tied to like any is is it an actual technical term or is that just like a PGCPS term because I looked

121it up and I didn't find anything when I did a search on that specific term and I would have to say that I did the same thing when I started to do this and I was like where is the information on this so I ended up because it's not I so first I thought oh maybe this is related to title one and then I finally got a hold of one of the associate superintendent uh in the area office and said is this something that's specific to like Title One and when you might be in a school Improvement type of status or is this something that all schools are do and it's actually and and I do I have to say there was a fiscal not it was done last year and I remembered this that

122there was a reference to these school-based management teams because I couldn't get anywhere I could not find anything that verifi their Stone existence and so anyway I went back to that note and sure enough it said school-based management team so it turns out that that um it's recommended that schools have school-based management teams and of the schools do have them many of them do um because it's just good practice in terms of it it's not related to you're in trouble or anything it's related to you you want a really well-functioning school that provides successful experiences to kids so I I I could not find any connection to law either okay all right because that was it it was pretty vague and it was and as you said like it was probably like a few sentences

123and just said this is what a school based management team so it's great that you fill a lot of that out for me I was thinking about you know I one of the things that I loved about certain um areas for example Chicago has something called local school advisory councils where um it's kind of like a a smaller version of what the board does so they actually select the P the principal for the school they help to manage the budget the school's budget um they do a lot of stuff that really kind of does with goes with governance and it gets community members and other stakeholders involved and I was thinking when I was thinking about these teams and since it was so vague and hopefully chair M will let let me go over um

124this okay uh is that you know I was like thinking what if we had something like that with this policy like you know even as we're finishing the principal selection process right where we were talking about the HR team and we're like can we get enough families that really represent the demographics like that would kind of solve for this problem right because if the school-based management team was supposed to be involved in that process in some way they're supposed to reference them that's one touch point with this broader community that could reflect would be an additional uh an additional cover for um the you know the areas we can address with this principal selection I think the other pieces is like with um some of the you know Capital Improvement program and where our schools

125go and input from the community we constantly hear about how schools and community members want to have more involvement there and I feel like these school-based management teams could be an opp an opportunity for the community to have more say so and for them to be an actual group that is required to be engaged so when we know for sure when is happening when they're doing mapping of you know building facilities and then like where goes what goes where you know this could almost be like another formal body that they have to kind of come before and have discussions with but it is hyper local it's really you know it's the school that's most impacted and I was thinking like this could really be an intersecting policy for the principal selection for the Sip um

126and then maybe even for like the budget right like the principal has to manage the budget but who has that you know additional support not oversight but addition support of how that money is you know utilized and I know ptas would love that I know they have some of those insights but I just wanted to say that I think um since the policy was so vague initially what posted on um the website right now um I'm just curious what your thoughts are there well I I would say it's your policy and so if you felt like you would like to expand uh the role of this management team I think that's certainly something you know to consider you know I always take stuff back then to double check against you know if there's any and

127it's really more a functionality if they would run into a roadblock and and you know in just the operation piece but certainly uh in any way you want to expand it I think you can do that board boo Str um thank you um very much in support of this policy and as a board doing whatever we can through this revision to reinvigorate this the um now that we have the school performance plans and the school-based budgets as required documents on every as data documents on every single School website the DAT this is now way more accessible and public in that the school-based management teams could um you know to to um board member briggs' Point there's like more Direction now I think the difficulty of these in the past was they haven't been defined and

128now you actually have the two documents available to your entire School community and of course this management team that could be the representatives reviewing and moving along and Reporting back through PTA meetings or other the parent coffees I know every school brings their parents in differently um I want to say that we also have an issue that the standing up of this that we do not have active faculty advisor councils in every school we do not have a lead in every school and I think we could be partners to pgcea in those gaps so that every pgcea member in a school building knows who their um fac leader is and what they do on their behalf um for years I've spoken to individuals who do not feel tapped into that knowledge doesn't mean it's not

129happening in a school I'm saying that it's it's not happening it's not happening at a level that every single pgcea member feels engaged and knowledgeable so I think standing up that we support strong FC's is super important in this moment um and of course the representation from the other um members who um are part of the teams and schools particularly around operations so yeah I think I think it's great that we're looking at this again and I did I did just want to say we also in 129 and growing of our schools the budget presuming we don't lose our funding is the Community Schools steering committees and those steering committees have the same much of this overlapping repres representation but their their focus is different so we would have two two strong um shared leadership

130commit committees in our building thank you so much board member buther I support this policy as well um board member Briggs I actually wanted a name change on this I just couldn't figure out the language um but I also didn't want to confuse folks who they've already been around I actually do have a concern around um how do we get the language where a principal doesn't feel like they have to do all of these advisory committees when I was a school principal like you got one for title one you got one for this you got one for this so um Robin you and your Brilliance with language like how do we have some language where we hold a line on this but we also not expecting a principle to implement five different committee so like

131maybe some where possible or when possible language or somehow cons maybe we need to bring in the budget policy and say the budget you know it runs through this body I would like to clean that up a bit also wanted some language around how often they should meet I know the administrative procedure might get to that but I actually think the board policy could guide this and say this team should meet at least four times a year whatever we feel is right or you know two times a year but I did have and more if if needed right if necessary but those are some of my concerns I wanted a uh a nicer title of the group which I can can move away from that two I wanted to polic to codify the frequency um

132of meeting and three I wanted this to somehow speak to all the other entities that need to meet within a school um so that a principal wouldn't feel overwhelmed by this but would see it as support um and not in addition to other things I don't know how to get us there with my three thoughts but that's where I wanted to take us and I believe board member booer Str hand came up but Robin do you want to respond to what I just said so um as far as the name I'd be hesitant to change the name name only because that's what they recognize I I think but I can certainly check into that um but secondly as far so when you were talking about the faculty uh advisory Council and that not everyone every

133school has them but that they're they're out there and they're meeting with the council then you talked about the community schools and they have their advisory I'm thinking to myself I thought right away thought oh my God that poor principal they're going to be in these advisory committee meetings all the time and it's sort of like couldn't you sort of put this together somehow so I was sort of thinking the same thing what I probably need to do is see if I can't get um some principles maybe assoc maybe the associate superintendent some people that are there doing it to get their input also Community Schools and get some thoughts from them about you know how do they think that might be the best way to um that we could do that so that you

134know because if you think about like when Community School advisory committees meet they're they're they're looking at school performance but they're also looking at you know the needs of the school and what wraparound Services you know or needed you know the results of their needs assessments things like that but they all that all plays a role in success for the school so um you know I think it's a good idea I I just will need some time to you know get the players together so I can get all the information from them did you have any thoughts around the frequency if that needed to be in oh so I actually originally I was going to put in quarterly but then I thought well maybe you're pushing it because since the just what Jonathan said the

135first the the actual policy is just so like there's nothing there that I thought well I I really don't know what people's thoughts were about this but I I thought possibly quarterly might be appropriate um you know it just makes sense to hit you know kids get graded every quarter so it's sort of the idea that you know quarterly I don't know but it could be anything but I do think we could put the time in my colleagues have raised their hands and uh they might feel differently so board member Bo Str and then board member Briggs yeah thank you so on frequency I was thinking alignment with that the principles have their required meetings with their instructional directors and I think they call them data Dives but they might have another term for them

136but those are quite intense for the principles they have do a lot of preparation with the data I don't know I just don't remember if those are twice a year or or more frequent I would think that a principal would want to align the data dive that they either before or after to that they take to their instructional director or come back with because I know that those data Dives point to some of the resources that principes may want from their broader School Community whether that comes out of the new you know their steering their Community School steering committee or otherwise or their pta's parent support around mathematics right so those are the um that would be one alignment point that they would all go together um I would love to know which schools feel

137like they're doing this really well to be able to share out especially FC's I would love to know where there are strong FC's and how that you know can be supported um so those are two thoughts that come to mind around some of those other issues the other I would like to put out there that I've always wanted for the community school steering committee and I know this is not that policy but I've always wanted the names of the the N the so you know you have the titles of who's supposed to serve on this I've always wanted that to be part of the school based website so that everyone knows that there's a community school steering committee who's on it I would I could see this also being something you'd want on your website

138to get to you know some of those VAR things I said around like maybe you know there are individual pgca members who don't know much about a well-functioning faac or their current leader so we could solve a lot with with some of these ideas okay board member Briggs yeah thank you so much so U Mrs Welsh I wanted to just double click click on the request I I I initially pose it as a question but I would love to actually have those under consideration the additions that I talked about budget principal selection and um the SI process and then I like what I'm hearing from my colleagues around um I feel like whenever we're making a policy Best Practices involve the people who are impacted by the policy and I would love to hear from

139principles around what they think is the best approach because they're going to give us the and then we don't have to invent the wheel or like expend so much energy and effort trying to guess cuz that just takes a lot of you know human capital in in time um I want to I wanted to say that um in addition to that I love the idea of getting like where these are working well um but if there's some way I don't know if this is like something I know we've done a survey before and um maybe like uh I know that we you Cindy and I did this last year where we put something out but I would love to hear like does the community want some of the things that I talked about so like

140for the budget piece or for the SI piece um for the principal selection like would that be something they even be interested in because I don't want to add it into a policy if it's there's no desire for it so um if there's some way to do some of those things I feel like this could be a really robust policy that addresses so many issues and this is the last thing that I'll say is that I feel like um I was talking to a principal in my district and she talked about how the school revision process like her um layout floor layout for her her school she's like I just really wish that I could have had some input into it because she's like you know we have too few classrooms but we have like

141all of these kind of open concept spaces where students can come together she's like but if I had more input into like how many more classrooms of the floor plans I would have said add me add two more classrooms and get rid of like that open space because it's just really not helpful to our building right it's not what we need and I know that when we talk to the SIP team there isn't really a formal process in where how they engage I mean they do engage principles but this is an opportunity if they were tasked with going to the schools to parents community members I think this could be a way to like get the voices and this just helps us as a school district so that we know there's it's not always going

142to the school board there's so many experts in our community there are people who know my schools way better than I'll ever know them and I I don't think I you know that we always have the the right um pulse of what's happening in the community so I think this might be an opportunity to kind of address some of those things all right thank you board members I don't see any more hands um this vote was to move um policy 3415 School based management teams to the policy sponsor for vision approval um this was a first consideration so miss adelay uh could you please call the RO uh yes hi welcome I all right there are four in the affir affirmative policy 3415 school-based manager teams will be recommended to the policy sponsor for revision

143approval um policies for second consideration uh this means for public comment there are three items for consideration policy 3100 Investments policy 3160 transfer of funds policy 5206 yearbook um photographs um which is a we're resending that one the question is shall the committee recommend the policies under agenda items 5.1 through 5.3 to the full board for public comment consideration is there any discussion there no discussion Miss aday will you please take the role uh yes hi hi there are four in the affirmative the policies under agenda items 5.1 through 5 .3 will be recommended to the full board for public comment consideration we'll take care of item 6.0 now these are policies for third consideration first reader to the board 6.1 developing curriculum documents for instructional programs and Elementary and secondary schools possession of and

144use of alcohol and drugs on school grounds informational material announcements purchasing automated external defibrillators evaluating the superintendent of schools bus transportation for cheerleaders majorette Etc proms number of members in terms of office adoption of policies adoption and Amendments of administrative regulations the policy under agenda items 6.1 through 6.11 was submitted for public comment only one public comment was received this comment was about policy 3323 purchasing the chair recognizes Miss Welsh to share the comment received and the response from the administration so um the I and I hate to say this I have so many pieces of paper and all the bills that I'm trying oh there thank you Cindy so the comments was that the the person who sent the comment asked the question um about the request of modifying the purchasing requirements for amounts

145between 5,000 and 15,000 and um oh wait minute I'm sorry you're the comment you I see what you did you put you actually put the response from Administration that was very good okay so that the comment was about uh the lack of the requirement of this policy to require more than one quote for purchase below 14,999 um although purchaser purchases under 14,99 may seem small in grand scheme when several purchases under the threshold are added together it can be a significant amount amount of money being approved um and that and then she goes on to or he goes on to talk a little bit more about the specifics as far as the um uh documentation and justification for selecting a particular uh vendor so the response from a ministration was that um they are considering

146the request to modify the purchasing requirement and they appreciated the comment and they are considering the recommendation required two written or oral quotes instead um and they do believe that that will likely uh increase competition and provide greater opportunities for MBE certified firms and be more cost effective um so they are going to move forward and I think if there's one other thing she added that talked about uh putting the um uh putting it into their policy manual also so um I wanted to point out um uh that um the policy itself is supposed to move forward then to to back to the board but we recently received the office of legislative audits um um excuse me a minute hold on one sec anyway um my we did um the OA results came in they're

147very preliminary at this point and we actually did provide responses but there are a couple uh um findings that would require uh some changes to the policy minor but still we need to incorporate them into the policy before it moves forward at this point uh every the um offic the legislative audits it's at a confidential State because until they get our responses back and have an opportunity to you know put that all together and then come out with their final report that's then when it will be communicated to everyone and my my question would be I guess my recommendation would be that since we're we're getting close to the end but we probably are going to have to make at least two changes to that policy um based on the findings that we hold off

148on moving that policy forward until we get the final um uh report from OA uh which is supposedly they told us would come like around the end of May uh beginning of June and that way we can incorporate it uh versus bringing that finalizing the policy then turning around and revising the policy again and putting on the list for next year to make revisions to the policy uh you know another time um certainly it's your call but um that would be my recommendation would any board members like to pull any of the items for discussion uh I'm going to pull 6.4 so we can handle it in the way that she advised oh board member I don't know which one of you had your hand up Boer strs or board member Bri with first all

149right thank you um yeah I agree with pulling it and to hear that the OA will that'll be a full two years since they started is um was a little bit of a um disappointment for me to hear how long this process is continuing for us to be able to get to work and as as a co-chair of the audit committee I I definitely support that this will be our very transparent um action that we have seen that we will see these results in May or June and we are already responding because we already have pulled this to be able to fully update it based on that feedback so that's what I would um I'm I'm good with that P Briggs yeah and I wanted to pull item 6.1 new policy developing curriculum documents for

150instructional programs and Elementary secondary schools all right board members um the question will be shall the committee recommend the policies under agenda items 6.1 through 6.11 except 6.1 and 6.4 as both of these policies were pulled is there any discussion on the policies that remained if not miss adlay will you take the role I I um the policies under agenda items 6 through1 through 6 through1 will be recommended to the full board for public comment except 6.1 and 6.4 um will be recommended to the full board for public comment consideration I think at this time we should deal with item 6.1 I believe board member Briggs had this item pull board Briggs do you want to talk about that yeah I just wanted to say um to Mrs Welsh that I wanted to add a

151section E I think it's under standards um it talks about coordination between the central office leadership and school-based staff but I really wanted to just call out I think coordination between the central office and principles um one of the reasons rational behind that is that you know obviously principles have a percentage of impact on the school's outcomes and um there were some things that I was looking up around like effective implementation of um interventions with principles that really do Drive change in meaningful ways and so just kind of as a um you know the the the call to action in the policy I want to ensure that we're lifting up um the connection with principles as well not just like school-based staff but separately and there were some pieces of language that I wanted to

152include I'm happy to send it to you after but it was just around like consistent and differentiated assistance to principles modeling ways of thinking and acting developing and using tools brokering external resources and engaging principles as resources for each other um and so I want to just like make sure that there's this collaboration between the central office as I talked to some of the principles in my district and just the schools like I think that the more support that they have particularly right now um is going to be imperative especi you know as we're thinking about all the resources that our teachers um will need they are the leaders of the school and so them being strong to some extent allows our entire school to be strong so um happy to send that language to

153you but just wanted to say that that yeah board member Briggs I believe you're wanting to postpone this policy until the next meeting to give the administration time to make those revisions is that what you want to do the question is shall the committee postpone policy 6.1 that deals with curriculum to the next policy and governance committee meeting is there any discussion there's no discussion Miss adlay will you please take the roll call vote to postpone 6.1 to the next Poli governance committee meeting I hi hi um policy 6.1 the deal with curriculum will be postponed to the next policy and governance committee meeting we've got one more vote colleagues and we'll be out of here the question is shall the committee postpone policy 6.4 um that deals with uh purchasing um until we can

154get the legislative audit report um I won't it's not our next meeting but until we get the next the legislative audit report um Miss is there any discussion there's no discussion missl will you please call the roll call the RO I hi hi therefore in the affirmative policy 6.4 will be postponed until the legislative audit report comes back um at this time we are at um we will adjourn our meeting the chair informs the public that the next virtual policy and governance committee meeting will be on this date is incorrec in my script so I want to get the correct one it will be March 11 March 11th please continue to check the Prince George's County Board of Education website for meeting information and updates thank you all for great discussion and attendance to our

155viewers thank you for watching that being no there being no further business the time is now 7:14 the February 25th 2025 policy and governance committing committee is adjourned