001[Applause] don't you have to say something with the pre the with the hearing don't you go into that and then come out we will be having a public hearing on our proposed budget and we will be presenting it will be presented by carla flavinsky it's her last hurrah so thank you very much thank you i'm very happy it's my last hurrah okay where is it it's not moving it's not okay all right so um tonight i'm presenting the 20 21 22 budget we'll discuss a little bit about the adm comparisons and the general budget limit and then my main focus is really to just look at an overview of mno prop 301 and all the user funds because that's what it's going to take for the next couple of years and just make sure that
002we can maintain it back at the beginning of june the auditor general's office did publish the 22 preliminary budget forms but because the budget has not been passed by the state it had the increases of inflation from last year so basically what i've done is i've gone in and i've changed the budget limit to the increase of the four thousand three ninety sixty five um knowing that that will be in the budget and it is that will pass eventually it includes the 1.21 inflation and it also includes that increase for the 20 by 20 teacher salary increase that had been in classroom site fund being moved back over it i also increased the transportation support level to the 227 and 277 to capture as much as of the budget limit as we could for now
003carla just a quick question there's some conversation that they may go with the skinny budget those numbers you just showed me will still be in place in respect of the right okay they are part of the skinny budget they were in the governor's budget plus um i believe the house had it so um no increases now this slide one other thing if you just go back um the second bullet point about the 20 by 20 being moved from the classroom site fund to the base level is that the last year yeah if you recall last year they had it in the classroom site fund um and then it was to come back over into emerson so then so that all that 20 by 20 is now completely completed there are talks and i think hopefully
004this will pass i don't know if it will or not but there will be some group b changes uh the the group that probably we have the largest number of students in and get the least amount of funding should go up to .093 and then some of the self-contained um group b weights will go up to 5.98 and then they're also including a gift at pupil um group b increase which we've never had before those are kind of preliminary i mean there's talks it was in a bill now it's gone to the budget but because they you know there's been no real determining factor that yes this is going to happen i did not include them in this budget obviously because the budget has not been set by our state we will propose julie will
005adopt on these sheets and then she'll have to be back before the governing b board before september 15th for budget revision with the correct budget forms so there's still a lot of work in progress i was hoping that maybe it would eliminate that step but it's not going to happen so carl just for clarification for the board the way the law reads is is you cannot so the question i asked was could carlo make this presentation since it's just a proposal you approve it and then if the board if the state changed the uh came up with the budget and put out the new forms could we go ahead and just say yeah well this all changed since the board last approved the proposal this is the new adopted and the answer is no the
006law is very specific you do a propose then you have to do an adopted if you want to do another proposed you could if we could and your cutoff date would be july 2nd we could slam in something by july 2nd with the new numbers if they got them done but but there's not a case where you can just make the change so and we can do it as a budget revision that that will have to come in september and i'll be shocked if by the time everything gets said and done um there's some talk that they might get a budget this week but that just means something to a vote and so by the time you get through all the shenanigans and everything else that take place on a normal just a normal budget
007i see them getting everything signed to the governor at the last second meaning next week some time right as as the year is coming out so i think we're going to be struggling with that so we'll we'll just have to do the revision yeah so so yeah it was a unique year let's put it that way for everything um i did an adm comparison this is what's in five cast as you can see we're pretty well flat you will see a slight increase over the next couple of years this is just with our cohorts moving forward and then you'll start to see the decline in 2024 now i do think in the next three to five years you're going to see growth so this is probably misleading but if things didn't change as of right
008now you would be flat and probably looking at some decline in the next few years so this would be assuming no new housing the developments in any of that right um same thing with group b it it appears to be pretty flat also which is probably a good thing because that's your special a lot of your special ed students are in there and they're the more costly students but again you can see things are still pretty flat over the next several years and then with that being said so your general budget limit's going to stay pretty pretty current you know it doesn't doesn't appear that it's going to go down but it doesn't look like it's going up by any great means but um you know again that's due to your adm and does that
009trend data what's that trend dated that's just that's just cohort movement financially does it does it take in uh inflation or is it not taking it does it no well no it doesn't it takes in we we built this budget i probably need to back up we've talked about this we've talked about this budget so much over since january but it was built with we lost seven percent of our students this current year we built it with a three percent increase from the seventh so this could only go up i don't i don't see it going down i think this slide probably really kind of tells the story you can see in 2020 um between the blue is mno and your orange color is prop 301 and there was just 15 000 was all that
010was spent in the esser funds in 2020. but going into 2021 you can see we've had to use a combination of all of the funds to to maintain and 22 you still have s or money availability um at the end of this fiscal year there won't be any s or ones that's all been spent um you'll have some s or two left and you'll hopefully the application will be um proposed and approved here shortly and you'll start to see us or three money coming in into your budget so that goes to 24. so if you look look at these slides you can see the impact that sr funds are going to have with your mno and your prop 301 and i just wanted to make sure that you know we've got a percentage of increase
011in our salaries for our certified people coming out of prop we've got you know there's just a lot of moving parts this past year and will be for the next couple of years with using prop 301 and esser's money and and it proves that it looks like you'll be fine for the next few years is there any chance that unspent esther's money will be refunded to either the state or the feds no i'm going to tell julie don't ever send any of her sending it back my my thought would be is if there's any by the time you get to 2024 that's left move salaries in and eat it up because that way at least you'll have a carryover for the coming years you know so but no i would and i think she knows
012that she's smart enough to know that no you don't ever give the feds back any of their money yeah the other piece though is esther's three goes out to september 24th so you could set up the 24-25 budget with a portion of the bns's monies you would have to pay it out off the first part but but so there's actually an extra year for esther's three i don't think any everybody always realizes just how far out esther's one is 22. esther's three is 23. esther's two is 23 and answers three is 24 but it's september of 24 so you're into the next fiscal year which really helps yeah so you could do summer school you can do some programs in the summer and stuff so um with that being said i don't you know i
013mean you can talk about what all was presented over the last several months in the budget but i kind of figured we already knew what it was but if you do have questions i'll be more than happy to answer them and to carl's last point part of the part of the reason for the january february march april may you know types of meetings that we've had is so that when you get to this piece really that the cards have already been laid i understand they have because of the state legislature and stuff like that but but when we say we're going to give this amount of a raise we say we're going to cover this much for for health care or we say we're going to add in more days to the teachers contract in
014in effect those motions and seconds that you guys made in march april and may have effectively driven this whole budget and so that's how that's why we don't spend a lot of time over that because we've spent all the time over it this is really the final icing on the cake so to speak of what the budget looks like but many of the decisions were made long before now because we decided to give raises or give extra days or pay for insurance or whatever the thousands of different decisions that we made questions any questions on that so we'll just move into our i'll call the order then okay at what time all right i'll make a motion to call no i don't need a motion i'm going to call the meeting to order it 3
01512. thank you carla thanks carla maybe we should all right i need the ocean to adopt the agenda i move to adopt the agenda i'll be right on it second step all in favor aye aye aye aye motion carries five to zero can i just say i love it when you're all here and we don't have any call-ins because that was that was uh pulling teeth there okay superintendent report given that we drew a long board retreat i don't believe there's anything more i have to say excellent let's make a note of this day [Laughter] okay does any governing board members have anything that they would like to share okay i'll share it under 75. all right public comments none look at us just getting through this um action no uh consent agenda none so
016then we will move right into one which is discussion consideration the proposed budget um which was just quit correct so um any questions on that like motion oh what yeah so my question is um is it the motion to publish the approved budget plus now i am publishing here okay right but but you're you're approving the proposed budget okay then in july approve the budget for 2223. with your approval she will then post it and do all the necessary steps the question was because it was just worded a little yeah i don't think maybe word a little oddly no it should be yeah no it should be motion to approve the post budget right okay to make that motion yes okay i moved to approve the budget that was just presented in the hearing for
017the fiscal year 2021-22 district expenditure budget as presented all in favor aye aye aye motion carry zero okay discussion and consideration for selection of board member for communication foundation this is part of uh what happens uh this meeting every single year uh there's some the of the uh board that sits on the educational foundation goes to the meetings so you need to prove someone has to step up say i'd love to do it we move forward with it as a general rule today we have a quarterly meeting usually lunchtime meeting lasts give or take an hour were a couple things that popped up last year as we tried to reconstitute it so we had a couple extra meetings that that would be there but on a general year you would go ahead and just meet
018once a quarter use lunch and then we would um you know there may be the occasional which you guys are already at you know like the although we did excellence awards in here at the board meeting on a normal year it would be at the cpac time so that person would be there uh anyway probably but if not for sure they had to be there representing the board so minimal but we need someone to who is our current shelly shelley meetings we didn't have any meetings yes we did [Laughter] you were invited i don't know where like how was i supposed to be i don't know we'll have to double check yeah i didn't know we had meetings would you like to do it again because kobe diver didn't get anything i said it was
019packed no no i'm feel bad now because i didn't have any would you like to tell me yeah i'll do it somebody has tell me when the meetings are all right so i move to approve shelly hargis as the governing board selection for the education foundation committee member second okay motion carries five to zero okay all right 7.3 let's see here 7.3 discussion and consideration approval of the ig clemson unified school district maricopa community colleges and dual enrollment yes this is an agreement with maricopa community colleges for our athletic i can't think of the let me see if i can see it brought up it's the athletic training course cac doesn't offer it so they offer it through chandler gilbert and it just got missed when becca brought all the the last ones at the
020last meeting so i'm just approval for the second year it's probably right now quite frankly our strongest dual enrollment uh class that we have we have quite a number of kids that are taking it so it's a very very positive program so i recommend approval what is it athletic training it's the athletic training but yeah somewhere in here sports medicine yeah okay any questions on that no no we did the pinal county one before right yes and this is we this one we had to get permission from cac mcc so all right i moved to approve the iga between book homes and maricopa community college for dual roman as presented well a second all in favor aye aye motion carries five to zero seven point four discussion consideration or approval of 122 district organizational development
021plan and district gold that was just that was just that earlier and it's just i'm trying to formalize it because i think it's critical for the community for the uh staff and for the leadership to stand where we're moving so uh with your approval and we'll continue to move forward based on the plan that i presented goals being the adjusted goals that in line the priority map with with hashtag four goals with the minor adjustments questions steve yeah so but approving these doesn't mean you can't change them though right because it's okay to yeah no and what i would suggest though more than anything else for this year quite frankly with all the things that are going on kind of what you guys were saying i think on conversations this morning you can probably fit
022just about anything we're doing uh mark showed the data from essers and there was an area for other where people wrote in comments and then reading it across the board all the stuff that everybody's asking so we'll be able to fit just about everything under there but you're right if there was something that came up we'd be able to make it all right perfect all right then any other questions all right to approve the new district organizational development plan and 2021 2022 district goals added second all in favor aye aye aye motion carries five to zero okay seven point five discussion consideration the approval of the a to use asp superintendent evaluation format so this is what uh mr dunn talked about earlier with asba as a being part of a pilot program uh we'll
023go ahead and evaluate me using uh the online program that they'll use it'll be very very similar in format in terms of process as to what the board use tells the difference would be obviously would apply to agendas for i mean uh evaluation pieces from the board um they would provide training for both the board and myself on the instrument look at the the six areas or the six domains it's pretty much uh i can't think of the new acronym but it used to be the slick standards which was the leadership standards they're pretty much aligned with the leadership standards um uh like normal so i didn't say anything way out of whack we'll see how many questions there are and those kind of things but the domains themselves and the standards to be totally
024honest we'll be looking at the administrative evaluation instrument this year and there's a chance we'll find these exact same domains uh the big key question will be is there 10 questions or there are 568 000 questions have you had that at all yes so um julie's gotten a number of people who uh julie bacon from asba has gotten enough people who are interested in being tests for this so there are two informations that are being held one next monday and one next wednesday and if you want information on how to set up for these um send me an email and i'll get you the link for it uh and the information will be forthcoming in one of the information sessions so right now i have nothing so when you say training how what how does
025that come through what are they is that through these information sessions well they're supposed no no no no no no right yeah i'm gonna guess based on what i'm saying bob if you get anything forwarded because we're i'm out of town next week at the at the conference in nashville but what i'm planning based on on what it will be is is if you're in the pilot program this is going to be an overview of what you need to do to do it and then there'll be much more specific training that would say okay either they're going to come out since we're in the valley there's a chain out if you're in a rural area they might do it zoom and they would just say okay guys uh here's here's what we mean by when
026we sustain one is leadership and district culture here are the standards that they're going to be the superintendents to be judged against what we mean by standard 1a or standard 2a or standard whatever and they'll just go through that so that that when you that's and you click where the rating is you have an understanding and idea of what what they think this should be about probably talk a little bit i don't know what the levels are but they'll more than likely be four levels you know highly effective effective in effect or some iteration of that there'll probably be some of that type of situation want to get it have a better feel but that's what i think the training will be to make sure that you all understand they're not going to do that
027next week and then they're going to come back out and say okay guys this is what the instrument really means questions concerns i'm sure they have a whole presentation on it but that's what that will be and we'll have to determine when they're going to do that and how they're going to do that next week is just an affirmations session yep yeah okay presentation are we required to be there well i've signed up for the wednesday session okay so i feel like i'm speaking so i'd be happy to tell you or if you'd like to sign up for one of the sessions send me an email and i'll send out the information i'll send me the link you're an excellent uh spearhead did you ask her like how many questions were on this i did
028not i don't know i was waiting for the information session just a request if there's like a lot of questions don't get burned out because it's my evaluation kind of get to the end if we don't like it can't we just use the one we make well what i'm thinking well i think we're gonna do this for the first year but i think i mean once we get our like map and stuff done i think that if i know these ones they're going to be like we need to do it on this and we'd i just well before we get there let's at least yes like see what they have and maybe we can okay we'll see all right so do we need we need to approve that that way we're just all on the
029same page for us okay so i move that we approve the use of the asba intended evaluation form for 2021 2022 as presented all in favor aye aye aye aye aye you can you can say no if you don't want to no i i i i recognize that uh all right i haven't had the best attitude about did i recognize that but um but bob i i support bob and he he teared us for this so we'll let's do it we'll help him out all right okay so motion carries five to zero even if you say no it's still four to one right i know i know we're still doing it i'm trying i'm trying for unity was it wasn't my like moan right before i said yeah i was like enough of a indicator
030so um information discussion items none um information item none so we're going to go to request for future agenda item mr ray yes we have yours on the next yes thank you yep and we've tabled it so that you would be here so i you better be here so i'll be here okay so our next one i know that chad has um some that he would like to so why don't you go ahead chad we'll figure this out okay oh you want to see it well did you yeah it would just be you just need to give us direction for what it is and then and then there won't be discussion because it's this is going to be future agenda items and then we can i wanted to uh if we could just address the
031the um uh liquidation fees not that we have them not whether we should have them or just uh just to kind of look at the policy itself to see how if we can find a way that maybe we can be a little more uh that there's a possibility to be a little more subjective and not feel so strapped and bound apply that to every single situation minus very few exceptions so maybe we could be a little more um open to that anyways are you looking for for all those throughout the district are you just focusing on certain ones that's a good question i did i think all of the board support just to give a little more leeway open and just so everybody's real clear based on the uh recommendation item for a vote mr
032ray's the one on the novels is just a discussion item because we're explaining what's going on but because of the request and the way the request is coming through there will have to be a vote or another motion second and so just know that coming through i'll work it up and i'll i'll make sure that uh mr mccloud and myself work on it so it reflects what he wants but just given what he's asking um uh it will be more than just a discussion item um all right okay so that will be an agenda item for would next time can we do it next on the 14th yes okay all right dude i thought i had a couple you have another one yeah um and we'll see how this one the other one um the
033other one had as reference to the disciplinary to discipline and it kind of came up in our discussions today about uh you know teachers the the on the on the survey about feeling supported or with the discipline program and then i think uh doc brought up that there's some changes in the that this data are coming as far as maybe some statutes or limitations as far as what can or can't be done with students disciplinary wise and so i was hoping that i felt like that was something maybe we ought to look at and discuss and make sure that we have policies that are strong enough uh to our administrators and teachers uh to be able to do what they need to do in order to make sure that there's discipline in the classrooms and
034that we we can make sure that there's no disruptions in the classroom and so that we just make sure that our policies are strong enough to support the teachers and the administrators and so this one will just be a discussion item there's not going to be action on it um but we'll i'll give you an overview of the disability system and what we do in the district um it's all public knowledge it's within the uh within the policy but but i'll let you know but as a board we don't approve those things no no no you don't again you will the only place that you'll approve it you will get this like i said earlier today there will be whether it's regulation you want to don't approve the regulation but i have to share with
035you or it's actual uh changes uh once asba kicks it out to us and again generally probably they might move a little faster because it it impacts kids lots of districts are starting the end of july they will put out their their process for couple the board but no if you're not aware uh the way any new policies are written is there's a thing called cosa council of schools and so in essence when the laws come down the cosa gets together and writes policy they share it amongst themselves get to a consensus that that the majority of the uh attorneys school attorneys feel that the going to go out to the school districts is is sound uh they will still tell you please consult with your attorney if there's a real question about it and
036then that's what gets approved so that will come again impact on kids it may come quicker but worst case it's going to be mid-august anyway and we'll or you know get it on board meeting there's a chance they may run it as a a single uh agenda uh you know first in the reading and a second reading that they're going to recommend everybody just approves it as a first reading so but we'll we'll know in the next so what's going on with that well there may be policies that are you know there may be certain things that the state issues down but each school district has their own policies related to but i'll go into that experiment so otherwise we're going to get into the agenda item at the board meeting and tell you all
037that all that stuff i mean to say that we don't have a say in what the disciplinary policies are it doesn't make sense there but there is a degree of truth to what what she said what ms hargis said so let me set up the whole thing i'll explain it to you and try to explain to you some of the pieces there is latitude so you're right so not latitude so it's it's a murky area that that is confusing at best and in addition to the policies and regulations we have some of that described in our student handbooks right so what's what's described in student handbook is the line to the policies and that's a lot of questions yes and you're going to yes yes but again as a discussion not as an agenda item
038but as a discussion item not as a voting discussion okay so if as a result of that discussion we identify an area where we do have latitude we could put it on a future agenda item for a vote i would i would suggest as of right now knowing where this conversation would go that you probably already have the latitude to do what you're describing in a specific situation um but that's what we have to have a discussion the laws are specific in some areas and more broad and others um so you might have it already but again we'll have that discussion and i'll be able to tell you whether there's latitude or not perfect okay did you want to do your or do you want to bring up and decide if it's something that we
039can that we need to put on or or how that gets addressed right yeah i mean he can well the the third area that i was hoping that we as a board could discuss was just to take a look at uh for example so when we say that that our principals for example are on a year-round contract and the contract says they work you know their contract is for 262 days um just i just wanted about that because in part part of what we need to i think we should look at is you know part of in addressing we've already kind of started as far as maybe giving principals a few more days off um trying to address the issue that principal and the principal salaries and the teacher salaries are getting closer together and
040there's not as much of a gap there i just think it would be something that we could look at to to to just address and see what's what it's at if when all said and done i mean on the one hand we you know do we do we say our principals in our district for example work as many days as they do this is just one example but if many days they do because we have an assumption that they have to work that many days in order to justify paying them a higher salary i think their position their job in itself justifies a higher salary already so do they work 40 more days or 50 more days than the teachers do in order to justify that salary or is there a way that we look
041at that same with the district personnel i've just i just spent a lot of time in other districts and there's a lot of places where schools get paid just the same we're better than our principals and they don't have to work days they're not required to work as many days as our principals do and so i'm just wondering if that's something we could look at that might be a little bone torment so you're looking more toward the administrators and not to change anything with the teachers no like to maybe administrators and district personnel okay would be my thought to just address that again we'll share an overview of that it won't be an agenda item uh there may be some stuff coming up here in the near future that may i didn't make part of
042this conversation uh but we can at least start the conversation didn't mean to cut you off no we had to discuss some of that though right like with numbers of days off correct yes yes we did there was actual motion to add five more days to okay not just administer five to administration two down to the classified staff okay i just wanted to look at that a little further okay anybody else have any future agenda items that they would like to thing i brought up during the previous session about student achievement oh okay you want some sort of student to ch but okay all right i mean there the ames data is going to be out and it would be i mean there's a lot of data that we can look at right yeah no
043that that's probably what we'll look at we just left till we had a chance i think the the high school aims data just came out uh over the weekend and so we haven't had a chance to take a look at it so we will put something together and i'll be on the agenda okay all right we'll put this down all right anything else all right i'll make a motion to adjust at 3 55 second wait 35 okay [Laughter] yeah we have to sit here um second i did okay um hi okay 3 35. um