Richmond Community Schools Board of Education Meeting on April 28, 2025

001[Music] Good evening. The regular meeting of the Richmond Board of Education will come to order. Please stand for the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Sandy, if you could please Sandy, if you could please take and read our mission statement. At Richmond Community Schools, we provide a quality education that empowers students to be successful in the local community. Uh, board member Cunningham here. Board member here. Board member Sutton's absent with notice. I'm board member for I'm here. Board member Sky present. Board member Telto here. Board member Gillis here. Okay. Um, we do have a forum. And we also have um I'm sorry, forum. And then we also do have

002our student representative Elizabeth Schaefer present with us today. Thank you. Um I'm looking for a motion to approve our agenda. So moved. Thank you. Any discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. I'm looking for a motion to appro approve the consent agenda. Do I have a second? Yep. Um Mr. You should have received in front of you a revised personnel report in the packet. Um this personnel has the um some upcoming retirements. Uh Jennifer Dorsy at the elementary school and Autumn Walters will be retiring. We'll be recognizing them at the the June board meeting. And then uh Mary Elth from childcare and lawyer Wagner have submitted resignation letters. Um, we also have a new hire, John Burke, and a new appointment, Jamie Clawson. Um, she will become the director of student support services

003beginning next school year. So, her official start date will be August 1st, 2025. With that, I receive no other questions. Anyone have any questions for Miss Wley? No question, but I just want to comment um I'm excited to see Jamie Clawson move into that spot. She's going to bring us much needed dedication and integrity to that spot. So, I'm excited for her. I'm going to agree with Margaret on that. Anyone else? Okay. All those in favor? Opposed? Motion carries. Okay. At this time, Mr. Wley, I believe, is going to do our future bond consideration. You also should have in front of you the powerpoints and handouts which I'm going to go over. So you can feel free to look up at the screen or the handouts. [Music] So, for the last several months, we've been

004talking about uh uh a future bill bond which will be coming to the board to make a final decision uh in May and then ultimately they have authorized the uh application and then in June the the language for the the ballot initiative. Uh we've had several conversations, meetings, um really for the public and and the community. We've had the three board meetings we've talked about this at. Um, and I know at some of the board meetings, uh, there's been people here who who've asked questions and and and heard what we had talked about. Uh, we held, uh, two community conversations. The February 18th was uh, cancelled because of the weather. Um, they weren't as strong a turnout as I would have liked. Um, however, in talking with people that I just run into in the

005community, I can tell you everybody knows or at least I run into is aware that we're considering a bond. So, it's not it's not not known. So, and then ultimately or uh over March in the beginning of March, excuse me, we held three staff uh lunchon meetings. They were open to everybody in the district. We held them at three different buildings um to gather input and thoughts that the staff had. So we had at uh March 10th, 12th and 20th of the three buildings. So when we talked as a board member, these were some of the big picture items or at least items that were talked about. Uh there might have been some other conversations throughout it, clarifying, but at the middle school, we talked about looking at costing out the what it would cost

006for a future second story, put the infrastructure in now. um and um so that if we ever had to go up on the building, we'd have the infrastructure in place. We talked about an auxiliary um gym off the new multi-purpose room, gymnasium at the middle school, possibly moving fourth and fifth grade lunch there, or as enrollment grows, we have a secondary kitchen area. Uh we talked about student restrooms in a in a variety of fashions. Uh main bleachers at the high school were talked about uh as well as the collapsible wall at the middle school. I go there. There's a lot of items that we talked about, but these are kind of some of the bigger picture items. Uh when we talked um uh with the staff, uh these are some of the things that

007came up in those discussions when we met at the middle school. Uh they were talking about storage in the classrooms at the new addition. Uh the conversation about having cubbies have their own personal space in the classroom versus lockers. Um generally there were uh the status was keep fourth grade with cubbies fifth grade and up having issued lockers. Um though there were some that would like lockers and some that would like all cubbies in the classroom but generally kind of how we have it now. Uh quieter ventilation systems. We've been looking into that. There are certain ventilation systems that are uh a little noisy when they kick on and so I visited some of the classrooms after this meeting. So, we have those uh working with our HVAC to see what's the issue because they

008shouldn't be that that noisy. Um some of the common are technology boards not covering the whiteboards. This is a a a result of putting the whiteboards in in the bond and then later we upgraded the technology so we had to put them over. So, um I would envision the new technology in in the new classroom be similar to the elementary school where you've got the board and then the whiteboards are on the side so it doesn't go overlap because from a timing perspective we were able to do that in the elementary school. There was a lot of conversations about no restrooms or restrooms in the classroom in the at the particularly the fourth grade. Uh currently third grade and second grade do not have them in there. Neither do any of the fourth grade. Now,

009um the general sense is they would prefer not to have restrooms in the classrooms. Um rather have to go down to that community restroom in the hall. Um no automatic toilets. Um often times kids will set them off and you'll just hear noises going on and off. So um some schools do put automatic toilets in um to make sure it's it's flushed. Um but also has some problems on the other end. uh consider counters with sinks and drinking fountains in the classrooms, particularly at the fourth and fifth grade level with that new wing. Um all three buildings in some fashion talked about charging stations or cards or sometime increasing the electrical capacity for laptops and so forth. I'll talk a little bit about that one. At the middle school, there was uh suggestions adding uh

010storage to the high school auditorium, maybe like a green room or something off the auditorium. um to increase the stories between not only the theater program but the choir and the band programs there. Um the elementary toilet that the teachers always brought up it's too low. I we've had four years of this renovation. This was first that I was made aware of it. Um it is too low. It is designed for a elementary. So um that is is being replaced. I believe ours tomorrow. The contractor's out to replace it tomorrow to get a big person toilet in there. Um, middle school gymnasium scoreboard was brought up on the list. Um, removed the steps in the middle school choir room and make it a level floor. Um, currently, if you've been in the middle school, it's

011it's like a tiered where you put chairs and and have kids stand like a a built-in riser, if you will. at the high school. Um, moving tennis courts on campus was a suggestion or an idea to talk about. Um, we would need eight tennis courts in order to be able to host anything. Um, currently we do not have enough to host an event at the city. So, uh, varsity baseball press box um, just in general was brought up. Um, that does need some doors and a roof um, which could be done internally through our operations budget. Um, this is a truly a wish list and it was kind of throw it out there. Lights on the baseball and softball fields, allows them to play in the evening. Um, badge access to the high school media

012center. Again, this is one of those things that has been on someone's mind, but it has never been shared. Often times we have staff who work late. Sometimes they come in on the weekend. This area is locked. They have no way to get to um I believe that's the color copier. I have no way to get to the color copter if they need any copies for the classroom for Monday or the next day. That's that could be an easy fix. I don't think that's a bond issue. There was conversations regarding student desk at the high school. Um we spent a lot of time or I shouldn't say a lot. We spent some time kind of how we got the desk and that committee and the the looking at whether we wanted cubbies under the desk

013or or holders, something to hold bags and so forth. Um right now, um we anticipate we're going to need some student furniture with the additions pending the bond passes or the millillage passes. Um so we could look at redeploying what we have to those newer areas and maybe looking at some different types of furniture like we did at the elementary. We got um adjustable seating and so forth. uh the teacher laptops and that was just a follow-up because um the process we needed to fix to make sure it's consistent in our building. Typically the teacher laptop that they turn in over the summer is the one that should be issued. It hasn't. So sometimes they get a laptop that's um hasn't been taken care of as well and they want their original one back. So

014that's a procedural thing that we can we can fix. Um, but we have money set aside which has led me to the opportunity to talk to the staff about the set aides the board's been doing for the last several years at the elementary school. Uh, it was brought up at music room storage in the middle school uh in the new um music room that would be in that addition. Um, making sure we have sound panel treatments in that room. Um, putting uh sinks and drinking bounds in that music room. Again, they're talking about the new addition. Um, windows. This was the first I I had I mean, eventually at some point we're going to have to look at windows and replacing because at some point like we do our houses, you got to they just

015become less energy efficient and so forth. Um, this was the first there was one person had a concern that at least expressed a concern about windows and replacing windows. um that is not in the cost that I'm going to show you um tonight, but just um it's it's probably another future thought that at some point it's going to come up. Um uh there's some concerns expressed about eliminating the stage at the middle school, possibly to be able to expand that that cafeteria to be able to count for um um seating. Again, another person brought up the teacher toilet in the staff lounge. um adding sinks to the elementary and middle school steam rooms. Um the elementary school is a lot easier to do than the middle school because it butts up against the plumbing and

016uh water that's already on the other side of the the other room next to it which is the art room. Um but but it can be done um adding an art a kiln, excuse me, to the art room or another area in the building at the elementary school. Um Mrs. Campbell does a lot with ceramics and so she lugs or drags them, carries them, wheels them from the elementary school over here to the middle school to use their kiln here. Uh again, charging stations or some type of electrical upgrades in the classroom. I think all three buildings recognize the challenge with this because when you look at the walls in the classroom, there's not a lot of space to put plugs like a drop for an outlet. So got we have to think some creativity.

017Um, we spent a lot of conversation with the kindergarten teachers and some of the preschool who had dropped in, uh, talking about a larger area because the kindergarten playground is where the addition would be at. So, we'd have to relocate that playground or put a new one in. Space it out with the number of kids and particularly have 125 kindergarteners. That area is very tight to put all of them in one area. So, if the equipment could be spaced out more so that you have less issues with kids, makes sense. Um, a light up sign by the Lois Wagner Library as you're coming in off 32 um request to have that sign lit. So, those are the ideas. So, nobody in the in the process said, "Hey, we shouldn't do this addition or I don't

018think it none of that came out in the process." So, um I think everybody it was very positively received. Um I think even the couple family community members that we had in in the first one um I think see the bigger picture and recognize that this is a need. It's not this isn't really about a lot of wants we want in the district. It's satisfying a need that we're going to have in the district. So in your in your packet you'll see an updated uh PFM sheet. This one on the screen is probably very familiar. It's what I've used in all the presentations, every board member. It talks about how we get that $51.78 million. And then it talks about, you know, we have in July of 24 and this coming July, we're expected a

019drop. We had a drop last year and a small drop this year. We talked about on July 26. That's when the big drop happens. And that's what we're asking the voters to do is instead of it dropping, if you'll continue paying the millage, that creates um that creates the the no increase. The papers that you have for PFM are updated. Um as of uh April 22nd, if you recall throughout this process, everything has been contingent about what's going on now. Okay. So the actual yield on the interest rate, the actual bond is still the same [Music] 51.5. What has changed is the interest. It's actually upticked what potential interest we would be paying on the bond, which means you have less money to pay for the bond. So, as that before that gets locked in,

020and you got to remember for those you on the board last time and anybody knew, if it's approved in November, we're selling the bonds end of January, February. So, if interest goes up and up and up and we've got to pay a higher interest rate, our number of what we can do is going to have to shrink because we'll have less money to do it. So, when you look at this sheet, it actually is 51.57 as of today. So, it's a slight decrease. It's not um significant at this time, but it is a decrease 200 little less than $200,000. The packet that you have in front of you, I just want to kind of go over. The first one is a sheet chart that I gave you. The the back page just talks about gives

021you some historical knowledge and trends of average interest rates, etc. Tax, excuse me, taxable values. um they're estimating the taxable value increase over the life of the the bond in 20 years is going to be about 2.5% increases every year. You can see in some of those years in 2008 2010 it dropped the values of house again with the economy at that time. The second page talks about all of our existing debt. Um it's there's one that's titled 2017 which is the front of the second page. 2017 we refunded bonds to save the taxpayers interest rates. So with that bond at that time is is set to uh be paid off in fiscal year 27. We have the 2020 which was our first bond series. S series 1 is set to be paid off in

02238. And again, that that first bond that dropped is part of that 1.7 drop in the July of 26. When you flip to the back of the second page, you got the 2021. We've refinanced bonds uh to get a lower interest rate. Those are set to go off or reduce in 27. And then we had our second series from the 2019 bond that was approved by the voters that we sold in 22. And you can see where that one's skeptical. That was this much smaller bond. It was under a million dollars. And then you can see the next two are just kind of um again it's a lot of numbers and information, but what PFM is recommending. We have a follow-up call tomorrow with them and B and French is to make sure the scope

023of the bond that if we sold this in two series one generating about 26.1 million million and series 2 which would generate 55 or excuse me 25.4 which is the very last page um to make sure that dollars received would cover what we would need to pay our bills once the construction gets underway. So, I guess it it just the the point I want to make on this one is just that it is um critical in timing and what's going on in the economy. You know, 51.7 is a lot or 51.5 is a lot of money, but if we're paying a lot in interest rate, we're our scope of our project is going to have to reduce, right? You also have a cover sheet that I gave an email that BFMF sent along with this

024um just as a just gives you there's a lot of verbiage on there. It's a it's a financial mind that's writing this, but basically um the at some point before the end of the year, we're going to have to make a decision on do we want to decrease the mills.2 2 to go from 6.7 to 6.5 this July or do we keep it at 6.7 and then just do the 1.7 drop as you read that it's not going to impact anything with the vote but it um um it gives you just outlines kind of you could do a second attempt in May if you wanted to the series um if you can spread the series out so that there's a certain time frame with them within it you'll save on interest is what the conversation

025what PFM and B and Frenches would be about tomorrow is is this timing the right timing to sell these series. So, um again, there's a lot of information on there, but um we're still going down the path as we talked about basically a little over $51 million. We sell it two series. So, the first series we have the money to pay the bills for the first phase of construction. Um, so any questions at this point? The other unknown is what things are going to cost. You know, we start we place that bid for steel. Um, if if rates keep going up, it's going to cost more. All of the costs that are built into here in the next phase that we're going to talk about, uh, do assume buying this at a certain point in

026the future. That's the way they predict and they cost it out. So, they built it in. Um, and that's part of what we got when we did the last bond. They built in those future cost increases, but the way things happened, things actually reduced in cost when we did it. That's why we came in so so much came in under budget. Who knows with what's going on with taxes and tariffs and all that and jobs, etc. So, that's one thing to look at. So, one question I got um regarding the uh the eight tennis courts that was uh brought up previously. Is is that something that based off of what we're projecting that we would even have room for this time? We haven't even talking about tennis courts. That's just what conversation they have with

027we have not talked about anything to do with tennis sports. Right. Right. Yeah. Prior prior to this. Yeah. For sure. Well, just because it was a staff me meetings. Let me phrase it this way. So, what I'm going to go over is costing out the expansion. And there are some things that aren't part of an expansion that that are on the repair. Like there are some roofs that are due to expire during the course of this model. I also asked Aen to cost out things that um like the addition if we want to build it so that we could put a second edition. what would that cost us to do now rather than the future because you can't do it on existing structures now unless you redo it. So, um I don't believe they costed

028out tennis courts, but they I asked them to give me a cost on it. Um so that you have an idea of what that would cost in the future, right? Okay. Yeah, that's what I was asking. Thank you. So the the sheet you have in front of you totals um 76 million. And so what you have here is you're going to see different columns. A priority one and a priority two. Priority one is basically it's not is here's what we need to make sure is done or that's our first priority. Priorities too. If things come in under the budget, this is where things would fall. This is not finalized yet because as you can see on this summary total, we're still 8 million over over just being within the scope of the bond. But there's

029a lot through this process going through. So I'm going to go through each building to just kind of highlight those that are in the audience. It's very small, but in the in the board it's not much bigger, but it's it's still. But the first page when you turn the cover is the elementary school. And you can see throughout this that the elementary school totals um about $1.2 million. And what that includes again looking at priority one, there's not a whole lot in priority 2 count. This is where the team being um you know the architect, the um construction manager, the administrator started looking at and and the board if there's a certain party that is the board that has to be in priority one. Now we just got to move things between columns. Um just

030kind of go down the line. Kitchen expansion, classroom addition, uh storage in that uh kitchen expansion, the restroom um um addition which would be on the back side of the um um kitchen for the outside and the plumbing and so forth. Um it's totaling about 3.3 million. When you look at site work, you're going to see some um you know, just the the cement work, the playground equipment. There's about $500,000 added to the playground. I know that's a lot, but that's uh we spent 350,000 on the last the 2013 bond for that red, white, and blue playground structure at Lee. That's 10 years ago. That's over 10 years ago. So, um that's that's not a whole lot in the big picture. Um there's a playground allowance of another 350,000. That's in essence moving the playground

031from where it's at primarily the kindergarten to the south side of the building right along the fence line um kind of in that grassy area there which would allow it to be a preschool kindergarten playground. That's the underground um retention p uh uh basin. That's drainage in that system. um and so forth. The only other spot we could put it would be in kind of the courtyard area on the other side of the between the gym and the kindergarten wing to get your bearings and that that space. Um but it still would need some underground retention and drainage system. Uh looking at what type of rub surface whether it's we stay with wood chips or we go with some type of rubberized surface. preschool, the rubberized surface wears a lot better preschool, kindergarten, than older

032kids. Older kids, just picture a little swing. They drag their feet, they drag, and they rub where that rubberized off. Um, kindergarten, not that they don't do that, but they don't have enough body mass to make an impact in it, if you will. Um, talk about fencing. Uh, the 160 drainage improvement is about the existing playground where it backs up to the black top by the gym. often times that floods, it doesn't drain quickly, but especially in the freeze and thaw or you get a heavy rain, you'll see a pools of water that will form there. Um, that's to fix that drainage system. The parking lot expansion is the one across the the the road. Um, there's about $150,000 needed for underground detention systems with that parking lot. You'll see on that roof replacement, entry

033roof, the current kitchen roof. Those are areas that need to be replaced that are due to be replaced. Um again, front entry door replacing the doors in the 500 wing to the kindergarten doors. Those were in the classroom doors, those were replaced. Again, nothing in this is should be a surprise at this point. We've talked in some fashion about it. Um you'll see abatement work, you know, you know, the 2090 and probably the 2003 that was significantly higher. There's not a lot of specimens left in our buildings. um taking the existing kitchen um and uh remodeling that to go with the addition um bathroom renovations. These are not the classroom bathrooms. These are the community bathrooms by the gym cafeteria at the uh four corners three and 400 hallway and up by the second and

034third grade. That's a complete renovation of those bathrooms. Um the classroom renovations, there were some um give me a minute. I got one. I'll come back to that one. Interior gym partition door. That's about $105,000 to replace that door. Uh kitchen equipment and relocating the walk-in freezer. the kitchen equipment. To be honest with you, we we are we don't think we're going to need that in this bond at this moment because we've been buying a lot of the equipment out of the food service account because we have that spend down plan. So, that might be something that gets moved over. So, at the end of the bond, if dollars are still there, we can still use it for equipment. Um you see the walk-in cooler, it's u moving it um or adding a walk-in cooler,

035but moving the current freezer. Um there's a small office door. to me that would be something that will go on the priority 2 list um that we can do internally. Um there's a sink added to the STEM room. There's some there's a lot of plumbing. It's easier there, but um we got to do some cabinet repairs cuz you have to do a different cabinet there, add the sink and the plumbing, etc. Then you'll see all the technology, fire alarm, electrical service. All that is for the new addition. It's the um additional electrical needed, the additional fire fire alarms, uh etc. You'll see in this one, you'll see a pull down electrical cord from the ceiling. To put that in every classroom, um in conceptually, what you're looking at is a couple of them hanging from

036the ceiling that a teacher can pull down as a station. Uh to do that at the elementary school is about $132,000. You need the electrical upgrade panel. Um on the back side or the second page you'll see the stuff that's in you'll see approximate um architect and engineering fees and construction manager that's in line with with what the industry um is what we paid in the past in the industry. You'll also see items listed in yellow. Those would be items that the district is responsible. We're not going to the construction company. So for instance in new classrooms in spaces we need to add the audio enhancement system computers teaching station devices etc uh clocks cameras and phones that number is looking at this total dollar value is all of that stuff. So you got an

037allocation for furniture and generally they look at the square footage and give you a dollar value per square footage for for furniture. So that's how the elementary looks. So, some of these items, like I said, we're we're going to probably have to move to priority two to get us into that 51.5 million. When you look at the El Middle School, you'll see quite a few pluses and minuses. Um the the first item, the $13 million is the actual fourth and fifth grade gymnasium park wing that we talked about. The next item, it's currently in priority two, is those classrooms on the end of the fourth and fifth grade and on the end of the sixth grade hall. Um, again, we're just looking at total dollar values and that that alone with those uh is about

038two over $2 million is those two basically it's four classroom to prep the building for future vertical expansion. It's a 500 half a million dollar cost. That's your footings and your steel. Um, basically what they'd be looking at doing is doing a cement roof rather than the the roof that we have now. So that um when you add on the the roof is the floor is already there. Um is part of that the potential for an elevator? What's not in here is the actual cost of an elevator, but they would this one of the storage rooms where you see this future kitchen storage room addition would be turned into an elevator shaft for the future. So, the design would be enough that a part of it is going to go away in the future to

039accommodate an elevator. Um, if we wanted to look at that future kitchen from a space perspective, that's about $500,000. So to add that um beyond what would be the traditional storage you put on a gymnasium, you're talking about a million dollars to do for future expansion and a future kitchen. When you look at the next cell, you're just talking new construction. Um this 1.3 adding a drive loop and lighting. Basically, that would be is if you wanted to add a drive down the west side of the the middle school to come around and tie into the parking lot. It's about a million three if you wanted to do that. In the drawings, I would show that light paint that is the future. You have the ability to put a road in there. If you wanted

040to do it now, it's about a million million three. Um site work when you're talking to fourth and fifth grade gym. addition. Um the STEM addition when you look at that one in the middle school um that's the site work for those two those four total classrooms off the wing and I can pull up the picture if you forgot it's at the end of the fourth grade hall now and the end of the sixth grade hall you'll see parking lot expansion which would be the basically tripling tripling the size of that parking lot in the back with the concession standards for the softball field of 600,000. Talk about underground retention system. Um if we did the drive loop, it would cost another 125,000 for retention systems underground. Um we have to relocate the water main

041lane water main because it comes off the west side of the school to the back of the middle school. That's where the new addition would be. So we'd have to um um move those um move that line. Uh the current playground at the middle school is roughly where the gymnasium would be. So we'd have to relocate the playground. Uh it costs um older kids playground cost more. They take a lot more wear and tear and they're going to be a little more durable. So you're talking about 750 to um $900,000 there. And a bait works minimal restrooms which are all the community restrooms. Um there's several of the middle schools at 1 point um almost 1.2 million replacing the wood floor if you want to in the gym or the divider curtain curtains 45 replacing

042the wood floor in the gym the middle school gym putting a new floor about half a million dollar or excuse me a4 million dollars you know how old that floor is at the middle school um I believe we've got two more sands that we can do we can do and we sanded the height high school once since I've been here. We've refinished it. Yeah. I believe it was right when I got here they did the re the design on it and so forth. And how long do the sands last typically in between each time? Um we're probably due to look at that high school to resand that one and and update the logo because the paints are starting to chip underneath it. 10 years. Um, so I'd say about 10 years, probably got about 20

043years on it. Okay. Um, the middle school is that parquet floor, so it's all these little pieces. It's typically not the type of floors we put in anymore. Um, replacing the locker rooms and or the tile and all the locker room on the floors. See there? Um, removing the stage and expanding the cafeteria by 200,000. Um you'll see in the next one in the mechanical there's some areas that we did not um do um like the wait room uh and the locker room air handlers. So replacing those um this would get all the air handlers and everything within the last eight years they would all replace. Absolutely. If we were to do the new wing with the cafeteria, would we need to remove the stage in the old one? It's going to depend on are

044they serving meals out of that new area. Got it. Because otherwise you're having kids get their meals in the kitchen and then walk down to eat in the cafeteria. So I I noticed up there you had put future kitchen with question mark question mark. So that's not something we're looking at. There's a storage unit, but in order to make it large enough that if you wanted to turn that storage unit into a kitchen from the square footage perspective, it'd be that 487,000. Okay. So just I'm sorry. Go ahead. just to turn it into like a serving situation where they're you're just serving that not necessarily cooking the food there, but serving it. You could put a serving line in there and then you'd have the electrical that you need. We have the purchase of another

045serving line, but getting the food down there. We're going to need equipment to get the food down there and keep it at a certain temperature. And then when it's down there, you have to store that equipment somewhere. Assuming the room's going to be used for gym part of the day or an after school event, it can't can't sit out in the in the gym. It's got to go somewhere. So, and typically when you look at portable serving lines, I mean, it's it's there there's personnel costs that we're going to have you have to built in because you're going to need time to set it up, take it down. Where our current ones, you just wipe them and they stay where they are. Nothing moves. where a kitchen expansion would be you keep the serving line

046in that expanded area and they just close the door and then the gym could be used. But the kitchen expansion though the idea wasn't it was going to be part of this. The idea was have that storage have set there it could be right? Isn't that what the conversation So if you want if you want that space ready to go so that if you when we're ready to okay we need it to be a kitchen that would be that 500 that you would need. Yeah just set up so it's the need not that it's going to be set up as a kitchen. That's what this number is to set it up to be ready to go to be a a second kitchen if you will down the road. Down the road. Okay. I was just

047looking at if we if we put it in Would we need to take the stage out? Would we not have a stage at the middle school at all? Then generally districts are side they typically don't have two stages. They they put all their performances in the auditorium. And outside of spring when you look at band concerts, choir concerts in the theater, the auditorium sits empty a lot. I mean during the day the theater class might go down there but it sit not it sits not utilized a lot. So this would be allow them like when um middle school instead of doing their uh sixth grade band over there their intro band they would do it at the stage or at the auditorium excuse me. But what about like their assemblies and stuff? Isn't that where

048they assemble? The assemblies allows them to do it in the gym where they do the gym. Right. The auxiliary gym allows them to do smaller something. So if I want to do a team of all the fourth grade classes, I use the auxiliary gym and the cost of the auxiliary gym just like it is here, you have a smaller set of state uh bleachers. I think there's like five or six rows in our our auxiliary gym here. So you still have a smaller area to have it. Um, but currently they do all their subse and then currently like when they like the middle school does all of their concert or sing at the high school auditorium that would be where we would do that's not where they currently do it. There are some like NHS,

049junior NHS would have been done at at the middle school, right? Um we we'd be moving either everything to the high or the auditorium using that. And then you um just curious during your meetings with the staff. I'm assuming that this was brought up. It's been it was more of a concern from the band choir sh Mrs. on kind of rethinking that. Yeah. Just the moving instruments, right? Back and forth the instruments and stuff, right? Okay. Cuz I know we had the the band play yesterday there and it was correct. I mean it was they did they had it in the cafeteria. Yep. They did awards but then it was also you know because we served food. So I can't imagine to have done that in the high school here. We wouldn't you know. Yes

050she could. Oh yeah. We used to serve food all the time out. Yeah. Out in the in the lobby area. And there's nothing preventive that if it's a flat floor, we have a stage, a portable stage. It could be set up for if you wanted it to raise so that people could see. We have a portable stage. You can still use the stage, which is what we have stage, but we have hosted a lot of events with food during in the lobby of the school. And uh to go on your um for doing the lights around the drive, the loop lighting, would it be cost effective or efficient to consider solar lighting versus straight electrical for the long-term cost of [Music] that? We can look we can look into anything. Yeah. uh you're you're and

051I don't know if I mentioned this at the last meeting um but the middle school require us to build it so it has the capability on the new addition to take solar panels as a new regulation that that requires buildings over 25,000 square ft. This is going to be 45,000 ft². Has to be built. Doesn't mean we have to put solar panel, but have to accommodate solar panel. And then there has to be room in your electric room to accommodate the solar panel batteries, the stuff that goes with them. Um, just as you keep going down, you see the the replacing the air handlers and again, you'll see the infrastructure. Uh, the bit one I want to point out is on the electrical. It says replace and increase electrical services. The middle school electrical still

052doesn't allow when power goes out to be reset. We looked at that in the last spot. When that system was put in, and I believe it was in the 96 or the energy bond that they replace that electrical panel. At some point there was a problem with brown out and a device was installed in it that basically shuts the power down. Um I'm not an electrician so I'm not saying this but it goes below so you don't ruin your refrigerators and all that computers etc. But by putting that device is it doesn't um doesn't turn on after the power goes out. So, someone has to come up here and manually turn the middle school on. This would replace that, completely replace it. Nobody will sign off that says if you take this device out, you're

053not going to have that problem. And we wouldn't turn it back being on like it was when it was originally put in just because of the timing. So, to take it out, upgrade the electrical for the new addition and then fix this issue, it's a million four or million three, excuse me. So if if we are don't if we don't want to fix that's probably the poor way of saying it. Okay. If if we don't change it to turn on automatically that's going to come down. Price will come down. Uh and then you'll see technology infrastructure obviously the fire alarm system. Um electrical needed for the parking lot lights. Um for the middle school, given the number of classrooms, we're talking about $96,000 to do um electrical. Again, it's it's similar what's in the current

054middle school science room. You'd have basically four kind of like garage extension cords that come down, you plug them in. When you're not using, they pull up so they don't block the view. Um that seems to be I mean, we could get rolling power stands, but then you're having a cord that's running across the floor and so forth. Um, that's a solution there. Uh, the walkway lights, I believe it was at the the first community member that the two ladies that were sitting sitting over there made a comment u because they talked about the lights going down the side path by um high school on the west side and we talked about the path to put lights along that path. What what this is looking at is those kind of out of the ground kind

055of just shines lights, not street lights, kind of waist high lights. Kind of waist high. Yeah, not street lights cuz those are people's houses on the other side there. Um it's about 420,000 to light that pathway. There's there's a question where could we use solar? I don't know though with with our weather. I would they stay lit and when I I mean I I think it'd be worth looking into anyway. Yeah, just a thought. Yeah, that path is really dark. It is. And then you'll see on there there's, you know, you'll see at all of these there's an estimated construction contingency. It's usually a 5% of the total cost. Um, as with any bond, you once you open something up or you dig a hole, you find something you got to you didn't account for,

056didn't know it was there. Um, you'll see in there estimating and escalating contingency. That's for those future costs. We're budgeting something today, but in the future could be up to 50% more. So you see that that line item there is in each building. So for the middle school it's about um 3.2 million under priority one and another million for contingency things come up. Often times that's the money that's unspent. That's what I was going to ask that we move to priority two. And then you'll see on the back of that one or the next page is the middle school technology. Um so you're talking about um 600 almost $700,000 $900,000ish uh on technology, classroom furnishing, telephones, clocks, all the raceways, the electrical. They This is running all the wiring in the ceiling. This isn't necessarily

057a computer. It's all the infrastructure to get that computer to the classroom. The next one is high school. That's all on one page. It doesn't go over to two, but you'll see the addition on the high school. It's about 5.7 million slight underwater expanding the parking lot which is behind the auditorium the underdog retention. Uh this one has a track recoding the track the track coating was done one of the first projects when I got here in 2014. I think it was done that summer. Um that year we did a lot of drainage repairs around the field etc. Um but if you look at that track um it's 11 12 years old and so you see that the blue is wearing off and eventually at some point it's going to need to be replaced. You

058know that could be something that could be a priority too. That doesn't have to be it's not a urgent need right now but if funds are there it's there on there. Uh field bleachers 88 ramps um fixing the bleachers to expand the bleachers. Um, again, putting more ramps. Um, it's about, you know, for a,000 seats, $672,000. So, that's adding on to our current one at the football field. That would be expanding. Expanding. Okay. If we wanted to put lights on the baseball field, we put them in. I put them in part, too, cuz I didn't see that as a need right now. Um, but you're talking $700,000 just to do lights on both the baseball and softball fields. Tennis courts. There it is. For $1.54 million if you want to put tennis courts on campus.

059Where would those go? That's what I was wondering. Um, the only place that I would recommend is in the back of the middle school in the back, the back 40, but the very back. But you have the old softball field. But at some point you'd have to put that road in to get a small parking lot back there so that they could be parked back there. So why Okay, just here. Why is this even on the list even as a priority too? Is it it might it might come off completely? It was just throughout this process I was trying to get if something I didn't think about that you know I know I believe it was um Angela had made it one comment about this so I just asked him what would it cost Candace

060was it Candace I didn't bring it up I that's the only reason why it's on here this would this would if we're not going to do it because it's not a need at this point but that could be a future that's an easy thing to take off and then We've dropped their budget down to the 1.4 million. Is it really Do you I was going to I thought so. Is it a pro? Is it like problematic to play at the city? Um I don't believe so. I do think it's harder for the girls that licenses, but I mean it's also not super far. Sure. So I mean it's not awful or anything to have but we can't post anything. Correct. We could do like a week. I think we had all black. You can't you

061can't host the big B. You have to have a tremendous amount of sports to do it. That's I guess I'm just coming from we don't need tennis courts. That that's just Yeah. No, I just wonder if we had a tennis player might ask and my my concern. So then putting it on here, so when it comes time for the the whole wording and everything, if it's if it's on here, if it's not on here, you can't do something with it, right? You when Well, this is when you have that Hold, let me finish. I know. when you have the extra money, when we when we've come along the way and we've done well and we've gone to priority two, the priority two things have to fit into what the wording was in the original staff,

062right? Right. So, so is the idea of just having a one one tennis court not a good idea then? I guess I would I would ask the question this way. If we have well, if we have already two tennis courts, why would we want to pay for two tennis courts here when we have it already? If the idea is we want to expand it because we need it, then yeah, that's the conversation. But it it to me, and again, this is just Brian speaking, it's a waste of money. The problem adding that is more so the cost of adding the road and everything else parking lot. They have to add it in. Let me You wouldn't have to, but they'd have to park and then walk out to the tennis court, which if you've ever

063been to Warren Mod High School and some of the other school, it's a hall to get out to some of their there because they're they're narrow lots. But again, you're going to have people, why can't we put a road here, put a parking? Again, those are costs that you have, but we we don't need tennis courts because we have them. We use them with the city. We always have. It works. Well, you know, all of that to to me a need would be if we didn't have and we wanted to start a tennis team or, you know, need like that. So, that's what I just that makes me crazy that that's even on there as a priority to just No, I I agree. I don't know that it's a need. It's obviously not cuz we

064have one, but I was just curious what the benefit would be or if it's not a problem. I Yeah, I get that. I just having it on there just makes sense. But this is I'm sorry. If we all agree that it's not one of our priorities even for a two, we could take it off, right? Yeah. Yeah. It won't. And that's part of where my We're not to that point, but we're not correct. We're getting close. We're getting treasure coming up in May. Because as we've been talking this week, I know. I know. Because as we've been talking, I've been making notes about, well, we could we could do without this or maybe we could do without this because we're going to have to we know we're going to have to cut this. See, that's

065you making notes. That's great. But we have to have that. this is what the conversation is. So, I'm putting it out there that I it's not a need for me. I think it's frivolous because we already have tennis courts. So, I I would like it to go away. Yeah. And and feedback that I've heard from the community regarding the bond discussion. um just hearing from the community there's been a lot of chatter about um getting too much sports specific things versus the infrastructure but but the reality of that conversation where is that even coming from because we have never we are not talking anything about athletics. So people if you are talking to people because someone else made a comment to you something about oh it's all athletics that is not what this is even

066about. So, it's our job to make sure those people be quiet and understand that that's not what this is. Well, sure. No, I I I understand that stuff that has come to me saying, "Well, it's this." And I said, "Well, that's not part of this to concerns." But I've had people come to me saying, "Well, as I get information about this bond, if I see stuff more stuff about sports stuff, then I'm not voting and try to quell that. But but having this in here and having a discussion about it, you know, I say if we have the capabilities and we have the assets at hand right now that perhaps it could be something that could be taken out. I did, you know, if it's going to be think we're getting really close. So, I

067say if I could make Let me just finish going through it and then we can have the third column that says absolutely not. Move it over there and let's assume something really came in under budget and now we're in the wish column. There you go. This is I I started this conversation with you guys in Denver saying this isn't about re renovating and putting different paint on the walls. We'd like these lights. This is about we're running out of room and we have a need here and so the more we can make sure this is we need this I think the better chance we have to sell in the box. So I just wanted to at least so when you guys are talking about items or hearing thing at least see a number this is

068what it would cost nothing is cheap. Well, we talked about it. So, whoever brought it up at least realizes as a board we their input was considered and we talked about it. Yes, I wasn't saying I didn't I don't just giving my own thoughts. You'll see on the uh interior of the site, we got the restrooms again, the main office putting a clinic in there. So, we have a clinic in the office. uh mini gym that was locker mini gym and the interior renovations and that's that um that none of that if you've ever seen it it's not it's the original pile and so forth refinishing the floor this would be sanding it down to me that's something that we could do in a yearly operational budget but that be necessarily replacing bleachers this would

069be more on the visitor side um if you wanted to You see also here on the top, I forgot the cross box, which would be the um um baseball and looking at our current roof on the cross box. Um 50,000 is a lot of money, don't get me wrong, but if we take it in chunks and we're going to do the roof this year, replace the door next year, correct? Okay. You see the air handlers um um which should be the air handlers to the auditorium. We retrofitted them to get the air. Um they're they're what 96 let's assume 98 open. They're almost 30 years old. The actual units that we fix um a rooftop in the locker room areas. We did not replace those because it just circulates and we did not put any

070cooling in the gym, the auxiliary gym at the high school in the last that was fire alone in the whole process. Then you see the technology infrastructure, the fire alarms, etc. that aspect um football visitors speakers you see on that one. Uh in the last bomb with two of the speakers that are on the poles were supposed to be on the visitor side, but when we bought those, we had the the regular grass field and the piping underneath it was damaged. We replace the turf piping was there, but we didn't put speakers on that side. So to put speakers on the visitor side, it's about 30,000. Um there's a relocating the fiber line depending on where that addition falls or where the existing fiber line is that runs from the high school to the middle

071school and then the fiber line runs from the middle school to the elementary school for our internet services and everything. Uh to replace that is about 75,000. Our current line according to Eric and the MISD is is good for current capacities. There's no necessary to replace it. That's why it's in the priority too. Um again you'll see then the the ser computers, cameras, phone system, desk and chairs etc. The second next page is the bus garage in I don't know if it was part of the 13 bond or if it was just a discussion but it came up in the 90 bond. There is a request for a bus garage [Music] um lift in this one and then on the back page you're going to see the um we have the list but recently basically

072all the parts have been replaced. We got a couple more many more years hopefully that list. So, I don't see this as a need in priority one at this point. Again, when you look at the total cost of a lift, if it's a one-time purchase and we have to do it in a future year, that's another thing I think could go to priority two. And are they are they looking to replace the current lift all together or get an additional one? This is um this is a No, this is a replace. Is this I'm sorry. Is the lift broken? Did you say it wasn't broken? We we just replaced all the guts of it about a year and a half ago. So, it's working. It's operational. But, you know, you got to remember this bond

073is passed in 25, sold in 26. This is 27, 28, 29. You're talking four years out for sure. You know, I don't know how long replacement part to last. Basically what he what he's saying and what happened is that lift we we probably could have or should have done it in 16 whatever it was but it got it got moved because monetarily we had to do other things that were priority and we were able to fix it get it to work and all that. So that's that's what happened. And then on the last page there is there's always been I've been in a conversation they would love to have a bus wash system. Um it's not just about putting basically a car wash. It's a lot of the underground stuff that you don't even see.

074Uh storm storm retention the site improvements. We have to a bus wash system. When you look at all of this is a lot of money. Where where are we washing buses? I would Yeah. How do they currently wash their buses? Um well, we contract uh four times a year, usually records day, that the company comes out and power wash them. Um we have power washers and sometimes bus drivers will wash their own buses and just stay longer that day and wash their buses. Um, we've taken them to the drive the bus garage up here, the car wash up here, back in half, wash it, pull it out, back in the other half, wash it. Um, oh yeah, I was at a I don't remember meeting at the IST and someone said that we should use

075the bus that the county jail uses for their buses. So I have to call and figure out where do they take their buses and it would be cheaper just to do a contract with someone rather than spending I was going to say would it would it be more cost effective just to hire this contractor who comes out and wash the buses you said four times a year more more times yeah think about to wash the the buses it's about $800 all yeah I just would rather contract somebody come out and do it more often I just wanted to know the Why don't we have a bus wash? It's a lot of money. Most districts have them of our size. Oh, no. Okay. This feels like a New Haven had to put one in because in

076their bond feels like they put language that they were going to do last garage and it got cut. So, they had to put something in over there. It's not a No, it's not our side. Okay. Your udicas, your warans, they have so many. They have hundreds of buses on the road every day. So yeah, this isn't a parody. So if if New Haven uses our mechanics, why can't we use their wash? We can we we can explore I haven't put a lot of energy into finding a spot. Okay. Just says so. So when when the uh they go to the the local car wash to wash the first half and second half uh which hey to get the work done uh where's where's the money coming for that? Is that coming out of the driver's

077pockets to wash the bus? I suppose it should come out of the the supplies but some drivers pay their own. It should not come out of their not part of their right. That I guess that's what I'm wondering because if we already had contractors specifically for this Why would it be coming out of the driver's pockets to get that choosing? It's like a teacher. Sure. Sure. Why did you choose to buy red folders? I want red folders. Okay. Okay. I mean, do you shouldn't be paid to wash school vehicle. Thanks. Okay. They just want to drive it doesn't have dirt roads. I was just going to say because so I guess where the direction I'm looking for you from now and and maybe it's just kind of the things you've ticked or created list. Are

078there things that are absolutely no? Move them to I'm going to call them the third column that isn't going to show up in the scope of the bond application because as you can see this total $78 million $76 million. There's no way we're going to get it unless we're going to increase it. That's not what I recommend. Yeah. We need to get rid of like $20 million cuz we're over budget. Yeah. Well, well, if you look at look at priority one, everything in priority one totals $58 million. Okay. If we're if we're going around the 50,000 $50 million, $51 million number, we're really talking $8 million. The [Music] bus, everything on the back page is a priority, too. that's not on there. The tennis courts are a part of you that wasn't on there. Um,

079okay. So, I have a question. Okay. If we're going to this, are we asking? I hope so, too. So, priority one, when we talk at the elementary school about increasing expanding the parking lot, is that necessary? Yeah. That's a loaded question. I don't park over there. I don't. Yeah, it did get expanded off of the last bond. So, we didn't make it big enough. Have you ever Have you ever been in No, that time during that here here's here's I'm just ask I believe we did make a big I'm going to make that statement. But the reality is the amount of people that pick up their kids and bring their kids to school is astounding to me when when I see it. So if Okay, that's I just that's I just looking at what I

080think it's a great question because I think we did we did it is bigger than when we moved the road and took the parking lot. No, we had the exact same number of parking lots but just kept them closer to the building. And if you recall in the last people said, "Well, you had all this grass. Why don't you expand?" I believe that gave the podium. So, at that point, we took the contingency money and expanded that parking lot to the to the road that whole area, but the original design that parking lot was not supposed to be that big. So, we're still saying though at this point that is still an issue. Even with the expansion. Yeah. Parking parking on events. It's hard. Yes. Okay. Okay. Just But you're also talking events. How often

081do you have events there? But if we're in if we are anticipating our numbers going up, we're going to need more. We're going to need more because more parents are going to drive their kids. And to me, it's always that thing of when you have an event, especially at that building and the parking is such crappy people happen. No, because trying to find a parking spot to get everything starts at 6:00 and I get there quarter 2 and I'm driving around trying to find a spot. To me, it's an image thing in and what we're providing, you know, that we get some ample parking. That's what I And they do park anywhere. Yes. Okay. I just just asking I just want to phrase it. I'm not looking for you to get this 8 million. I'm

082just looking for you to tell me are there things that you're like dying on there like no no this isn't all the priority at this point. Okay. But is there anything in the priority one? Well, that's what I was looking for that you might say, you know, this is more of a wish or not necessarily needed because I'll I'll put my team with a and them say, "Okay, let's let's find this. Make sure what we're talking about each one of these numbers." We know something's not in priority, too. I want to make sure it's not in. That's what I That's what I was like looking at my priority blows. To me, I think your priority one stuff is pretty on point. Well, I Okay, so I need to go back and just refresh. Okay, I'm

083looking at Lee school again. We talked about kitchen equipment, relocate the walk-in freezer and the uh kitchen equipment walk-in cooler, but we moved that out because we said we possibly could get that from our the equip the kitchen equipment. Yeah, that could be moved to a new priority, too. Okay. because we're already buying equipment through our through our food service. Yeah. Through our draw down. Not much, guys. But the walk-in cooler, the 35,000 is needed. The entry cooler is very small. We have a walk-in freezer, but we physically have to move it into the new kitchen. That's what that cost. Okay. All right. this I think police sorry I'll wait go ahead I was just going to say go to the priority too removing all that make them make them a wish list make you

084know so as we go along like we always do if we do well and then look okay then those wish lists then get prioritized that's what I would say I have two questions okay the first is what is the likelihood we're actually going to build off because we're only talking about building up at one school, which prepares that one school to have more kids, but it doesn't prepare the other two schools. So, are we expecting the other two schools, we're going to be building on? Cuz if we're only having more kids, if we're only having the space to build up at the middle school, what happens to all when all those kids get to the high school? And also, we would only be able to build up on the new construction side, right? So it's

085not one little square that much, but it is it is part of like at the lease school can't build up. You're not. So it's I mean it's a half a million dollars. I don't know if it's that important that we move it out are going to be planning on building up because is it a viable option for given you have existing buildings already built. Correct. Right. Because you can fit more people at the middle school. Great. But they have to have space at the high school also. Yeah. to go to. So the space of the high school has got is going to have to come out. We have the space for that right now to do that to a certain to a certain but you can also right that the high school you can build

086out and up when the time comes if you have. But this way this way if we put it in place at the middle school now not that it's easy but it's easier. Boom. You can just go up. Yeah. where if you're doing an expansion again on the two, you're just going up here high school, you're out in even if you don't make that addition going up. You turn it into like two offices. Yeah, cuz I would take that. I would recommend if we got to that point where you got to take the admin, I would recommend by getting a storefront. Yeah. Rent a storefront, an administration building and a storefront. I say that loosely kind of spacewise and move the admin there off campus to a vacant real property. You just rent it and I

087didn't realize that was a property too. Sorry that was so never mind. I guess that's on our wish list anyway. Yeah, we got to look at the priorities. So I have a question then about cuz I want to go through cuz I made the comment about moving all the priorities out out. But I do have a question in regards to this is the middle school uh the replacing of the tile floor at the locker room. Which locker room is that? Is that all of them? Those are the two the boys and girls locker room and off the the main gym that are right there in the gym area. So what Okay. Um the 246 thou no the 95,000 it's only 95,000. That's the tile. Okay. Is is there anything on here in regards to the

088little It's like the the locker room to that little gym in the middle school, right? Locker to the little gym. Middle school. Yeah. Isn't there No, I'm thinking about the high school. Oh, I was thinking I'm sorry. Yes, that's that's in the high school. that is um that's not a priority to then a high school is um I don't think that middle school I guess mini gym locker room it's priority one about $600,000 that's all the priority that's what you're thinking priority okay I have a question wish list yeah I have a question on the middle school Again, we have in here, Brian, you have add the drive loop and lighting as a priority two. Correct. Okay. So, could we then move the underground detention for that drive loop into two? If we don't do

089it, does that make sense? If we're not going to do it, if we're going to put it in the two, which is going to become our wish list, which line that puts under new construction? I'm under new construction. construction. So the second one says add drive loop and lighting up 1 million. Then if you go down 1 2 3 4 five it says underground detention drive loop that would move over. So we could move that over. Yes. Okay. But now this uh only Well, go on. I'm sorry. S the lighting the lighting though down that path. Where was that? Was that cuz that's another middle school or high school? That's in the middle school at the bottom. It's 420,000. That's a priority, too. Not a priority. I'm not sure. That's a big one, but I

090don't know that I like that. Priority, too. How much of a need is it? It's a very dark path. Um I I think it's actually like a hazard, but frankly, it's liability. No. Yeah, I would say as a resident, I'd want to know what type of lighting you're putting there cuz I don't want that lighting shining right in my as dark and there are kids that do walk through that path in the morning. Um especially with the time change. Yes, it's dark at 7. In the morning and Yeah. And after their after school events or whatever. Yeah. I just listen to middle school. Yeah. It's closest. I I would like to to see what a cost for solar maybe like I would just be curious putting that on a wish list I guess. Yeah. I'm

091just wondering what the cost if we did a different cost what it would be if we put solar there. I don't know. So Brian for the upkeep. What's the upkeep? Solar lighting up then. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know enough about it. So I guess that's why I would like So what's the longterm? Yes. Yeah. I don't know. So just a thought versus maintenance versus your actual electrical cost. I just Yeah. I feel like we could also There's got to be a cheaper way to like that walkway. There has to be um the track reco that's not anything that we already have been kind of budgeting or saving for I thought I remember one of our line items being for the football field around it. No, we only set aside for buses and the

092turf. Right. Yeah. Yeah. and the computers. Computers, copers, servers, and what about the bleachers at the I was just going to say my question is about the bleachers. What does that exactly do? Because I've got spamming home bleachers and uh away bleachers. Do the away bleachers need to be expanded? Do we get that many people coming or I don't know depends on the event generally. Yeah, it just depends on the event. Okay. If I think the big thing that happens is when we are hosting events when we host like a basketball tournament or a volleyball tournament we the numbers tend to be bigger there but average I would say no this is this is outside football. Oh the outside. Sorry. Yes. Okay. I think the home side needs some ext. I do too. I think

093the visitors are just fine. We can easily adjust that number. Be less safe. I'll talk about the cost. Is there anything else that's absolutely not a priority? It doesn't appear to be a need. Visitor speakers. We don't need them to hear, right? I don't I don't care about their seating, but I think the sound system everywhere you go, if you sit on the visitor side, you can hear you can hear it. You know, they've got it may not be the best sound, but at least you can hear um what's being said. So, I've never sat on our visitor side to know if that if you can't hear. That's what I'm saying. If if on the home side the speakers are loud enough that it goes across the field, you would think it would be. That's

094my thought. I don't know. I I don't know what the new system originally you could have. I think it's great. Isn't that a two anyway? It's a two. It's a two. So, don't worry about it. Not happening, right? Wish 30,000. Okay. On the press box on the high school, did we feel like we could handle that? Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I can move those. You want me to move all the athletics out? No. No, I don't think we need to. Not broad statement. No, no. I I think it shouldn't matter if it's this is mostly I mean this is I mean you look at those I mean minimal it's not it shouldn't matter if it's if it's athletics or infrastructure if it's needed. That's correct. Then we should be putting it on here and I'm

095not worried about if it leans one way or leans the other. They should be necessary things or things that are going to improve our district. Yeah. Correct. My thoughts. Do we so can we are would we be in agreement of the press box we could do that out of our budget our own budget or no or just leave it it would yeah you know we would just be up fixing one to one it's not we wouldn't be doing it all at one time we would do the roof okay just a thought is it falling apart is how much does it I don't think it's in the best shape do you do you think Brian I The one that needs it the debate is the baseball. The baseball needs you watch your title N. Yes, you

096do. Then you have to do the same thing, right? Could we not refinish the high school gym floor or not put that in there yet? I'm just thinking if we know it's good for another I don't know. We need I mean you said you had two more sandings that you could do on it before it needs to be every 10 years each. That's 20 years out. Yeah. So I wouldn't think that would be not that it's about the high school bleachers. Yes. 250,000. I don't think it's needed. That's why I um Are they I think that it is I think that it is needed. Um I know the band now sits in it, right? Who's Oh, we don't have Jo. It's it's it's not seating that. It's the condition bleachers. They come out. Sometimes they

097don't they were it's the condition of the bleachers. Are we talking this is this is bleachers in the gym or is this bleachers in the gym? 1,200 seats. Got it. That's an Oh, got it. Well, how old are they? 97. Those are old. I was thinking outside. No, we're now we're inside the building. Yeah, I guess I'm not. And now we we finally have where we've got the railings all figured back out again, you know. But the the newer the 30 years later version, if you go to schools, they're the bleachers come out better. The whole railing part. Yeah. The step the stepping system. Absolutely. Mhm. Again, this is a liability issue for me. It's a huge liability, I think. Okay. Okay. Any other questions on that part of it? And then Ryan, we'll come

098back and we will make final question. We'll get the number closer to Okay. 500 and then cuz our next step is working with them so we know when it says it what all that entails, all the details. had them, but just to make sure we're all on the same page from architect to the uh construction and Okay, next item on our agenda is our fiscal year 2026 budget discussion. [Music] So, I wish I could say that we have uh newer information from the um state and from the governor and house, but I don't. So, this is the sheet that you've received. We talked about last time. It shows the governor's budget, the impact. We talk about flat enrollment, keeping in flat enrollment and the impact. So, we're ranging anywhere from 609 to $650,000 of additional

099revenue. Um, and then we began costing out contracts. Uh, the three that are unsettled are PAS, education, and secretaries. Um, so part of that cost is it is making some assumptions on contract settlements to build in. I I can't say that's the contract set up like for two of the group we haven't even started negotiating. Um, as far as staffing, um, we, this has the five paras, [Music] um, not in the five kindergarten paras with the position that that's being solved. Um, the dispatcher, her last day is tomorrow. Um, we are I'm going to have to work with Susie to figure out a plan. This would reduce the dispatcher. So when she's out, who's covering, whether it's a bus driver that we call up to cover the the office and then we have a sub

100bus driver drive for them. Um roughly the savings between the two retirees that we've got and bringing someone in not necessarily in a range like a one to fiveish step range depending on their experience etc. yields us about $80,000 savings. Again, some of that's I don't know insurance costs, what they're going to have, etc. So, this is just a uh summary. Tonight, what I want to talk to you guys about is the impact of grants. And so, that's the sheet that you have in front of you. Um, so I'm going to start with the easiest of the three, which is the one at the top that says title one. On your sheet, you're going to see carryover allocation, carryover, allocation, and just kind of summarizing. When we have a grant and we don't spend it

101all, we're allowed to carry over a certain portion or if not all of it. Some grants we carry over all of it. So depending on if we were able to staff everybody in the grant, you know, if we had a PAR position all posted and we didn't weren't able to fill it, that's going to affect how much carryover you have at the end of the year because all those expenses weren't encumbered in that year. But in 202122 our allocation was 28,000. We took a 7.8% decrease. The following year allocation dropped to 193. The following year we had another 11.81% decrease to drop to 170,000 our allocation. And then the following year, this current year, we had another almost 15% decrease in our title and allocation. the patterns holding that it's slowly decreasing. Currently, we pay

102part of Mrs. Walter's salary out of there. We have a homeless leazison on set aside. We have an allocation by law that we allocate to the private and non-public schools. Um, and then our indirect cost, which is it's a it's a formula that they allow us to charge part of grant dollars to offset your business expenses to help um for the duties that they have for the grant. So, we pretty much allocated 163,000. I don't anticipate unless the nonprofits and public schools and our homeless, we don't spend that full amount, which could happen. um it just becomes carryover and then there's a reallocation for their allocation next year. Given that and we use part of this year, we use carryover from last year to help cover all the costs. Um you can see for the

103if we keep a teacher in that position, um we're only talking that we can budget $114,000 assuming the other costs are the same. That's an open position. So, that's the conversation we're having right now and and it'll have to get posted um to see if there's any current staff that are interested or any staff. Now, if we hire a nobody wants and we hire a new teacher, your costs are going to come down because a new teacher's total cost is not that high. Um generally though, you want someone in this position with kind of the tools and tricks of the trade so they have the experience of how to deal with kids that are struggling. We don't typically give this position to a brand new teacher. So, um, so right now this doesn't impact staffing

104other than who's there. So, this is the easy one. So, I don't really need any direction from you guys on this one. I'm going to go to a 31. Aa aa is next. AA the top part you'll see we had $96,000 in carryover and our allocation this year was $176,000. 31A used to be two grants. It used to be a mental health and a school safety. They combined it into one grant and gave us it's based on how many kids you have in the district your per pupil allocation. Right. So currently we pay the building security monitors out of it which is this year which totals to about 11100,000 little over 100,000. Um we pay an allocation to the police leaison officer. We pay an allocation for part of a teacher's day and that's not

105salary up there. That's total cost. That's like a retirement healthc care. That's total cost. Um we pay a 1.0 0 total cost for a social worker. We paid part of a positive U out of it for middle school, the e-haul pass at the high school care of Southeast Michigan, our student side as well as our staff side. Um that's our uh employee um assistance program. Um, we had miscellaneous supplies. Majority of that, if not all that was used to put our reun reunification together this year for each building. That's we did that. And then can I mean that was a one time. Yeah. And that's where that's where I'm going to come down the next part. And then typically what we do is when you once you put all the salaries in there and the

106stuff that you know, it never comes out to be your exact allocation. So that 6,000 is generally put in the supply. It's kind of a flexible number to use. So we balanced the books on that one. That's what we projected to spend. That's our revenue. So we're not expected to have carryover this year. Again, there may be because we don't spend all the supplies, but we're not assuming we get the same allocation, flat enrollment, same allocation. Um, this is where we come up with and this is how we we believe we can make this balance because now we're starting to talk to staff. You've got your uh building monitors. If you wanted to keep this existing, we could look at this also expanding to be 4hour blocks and only do three people, you know, and

107so forth. Um but keeping them part of the reason why we did this was to give them hours, get them insurance to keep bus driver cuz we were having that turnover in bus driver. I was going to say let's keep in mind this is what making us competitive with bus driveration. Yes. On the flip side the they don't have the background training in security though we've trained them and we work with them and we give them kind of here's what you do. These are the doors you check to make sure this the protocols, but um there's a difference between a a liaison officer or someone you contract. So, yeah, but I don't know they need to have experience in security to check that doors are locked. Again, I'm I'm just I'm just saying, but yes,

108um the student advocate positions, these were added um that we would not put those on the schedule. That doesn't mean those people are not going to get up schedule because we're still in that scheduling process, but we're taking that out of the grant. Um, you're going to see the social worker be a five, but I'm going to show you where the other.5. So, instead of one grant, we're splitting it between two. So, that full-time um positive U e-haul pass, we'd have to either look at if we're going to continue it or another source to pay for those. Um the care I have not gotten any adjustments. I just use the same numbers as I did last year and then zeroing out those two supplies. By doing it this way, we basically have allocated the grant

109in this particular model. Right now I've not officially laid off anybody or reduced anybody's schedule other than this here. Brandon and Michelle, we'd have we're going to move towards and this is all general fund, but general fund non-grant dollars. There's going to be a cost increase there. So, we look at that money left that spend that would it go on that side of the equation, if you will. So, then the you the student advocate position would stay. It's just not going to come out of general funders. Not necessarily because we got to look at what the schedule said. If there's no spot in their schedule, then we won't. We didn't have it. Okay. But they would be teaching something that wasn't enough. Yeah, I get that. But my my question is what was the whole

110point of starting the student advocate in the first place cuz we're only going to do it for a year and now that the funds are going, it's going to go. Well, that's with any grant though. If the funds are there, I would be say we run the funds like we've done year after year. But I I'm just asking so that that program came about because we were uh because there was grant money. So we since it's going away then we're not interested in that program. I don't know. So is it like a pilot program? I don't know what the program is. Can I ask what it is? The program came because the middle school came to us with a positive and wanted to implement it. The reality is we had two people scheduled that we

111couldn't fill. Correct. So the reality is that we could use grant dollars and give them part of their day to help support the program. That's kind of how those two individuals kind of work making sure they're doing they have a they have a case load of kids that they see and they they rotate them to make sure and they check up on them. They're probably these are at risk kids. They could be at risk. Maybe you know from a perspect I wouldn't say they're all at risk. There would be some that are on the radar. Might have kids who have uh attendance issues and they're following up to try to make sure they're getting to school. They might have kids that, you know, I'm not turning my homework in math class, but I'm doing all

112the other what's going on there. They're they're so every week they too. We would, you know, we'd get creative. You know, it's not like we say, "Oh, well that case load of kids now no one's checking on them ever again, right? Like, okay, what what can we do with the social worker? What can we do with the counselor?" I just did that is it, you know, you have kind of a homebased teacher and every second hour teacher kind of has a few kids, you know, kind of leading into that silent mentoring. So I we just get creative to make sure that we can still provide those same levels of support. That's all I wanted you to say. But what about the So do we know how much was the positive you program? Cuz that's like

113you're totally getting rid of that 9,800. It was why did I miss that? It's on the top of the page. the top of the the top of it is current and the bottom is is looking at the ground on the first page. Okay. Well, because I would not I wouldn't want to get rid of that. See that? So that that's my question. So I I get the the grant money is not coming back. So then, but we could say if we want to still have positive view, we just move it over to general fund or is there I mean rank stuff's kind of going crazy, right? You you could move it over to general fund. The amount you have available in general fund is getting smaller and we have three contracts that haven't been settled

114yet. Correct. So yes, but yes, you would move that expense to a general fund non-grant account. All of this is a general fund as you know, but they just got out of the grant. So that would kind of make it like a priority too that we could fill that in a general fund if the after we settle the other agreements that that would be okay kind of wish list if we can. Is that how that works? I mean well I the option and you were asking Margaret Telto's opinion. I don't think it's a priority too. I think it's a priority because of what the program had been this year. So, I would not agree with we have those contracts that we need to settle. I would think we would want to figure out a way

115how can we pay to have it as opposed to waiting for contracts to sell. I would just where I've come from. Yeah. I would quite frankly I mean even with what you got going on here, I don't know. I almost You'd have one less monitor and then you could have your positive view program. I'm off. Is that two in the building? Is that what Brian says? Well, they're an AM and a PM show. So, one works from 8:30 till I'm going to say 11. I don't know what's on top of my head. And then one works 11 to 2, go get the bus. So, I have a couple questions or thoughts. Um, I feel like grants are always unknown year to year and everyone who takes that position understands that. That being said, if we

116don't have I mean, you're going to have to pick and choose. If the money isn't there, we can like keep taking from general fund so much. You're going to have to lend. If we want to keep this, we're going to have to cut something else that we're taking out of general fund in my opinion. Um, my thought though, student advocate, I love the idea of it, but counselor, social social worker, dean of students, those are the people in my mind that would be checking in on kids, checking with their absences, checking with their homework, seeing if they're okay. Well, I feel like in a in a perfect world, I don't even know if that's the right word, but it I don't I don't know that that's necessarily true. I I don't want to say what

117else are they doing because I know everyone's doing something but you can't tell me they don't have some time in their day to check in. I don't I would never do that. Okay. But the the idea behind doing that like Brian said was the the two individuals didn't have a full schedule. So this is we created this to give them a full schedule. So moving them away to do something. Um, but I just think if if this has been an important part, you know, how because Brian, weren't we going to get like some kind of idea of how it went at the end of the year? Some kind of They did a Yeah, they did a presentation. No, no, no, no. Not the student advocate. It's not It's not the same thing. Am I right?

118Well, Brandon's position is part of the positive view. Michelle's is not cuz they don't do a positive view at the high school. But Mr. Day was here. He's part of that. Yeah. He's part of that positive view because he did give the presentation. But there's there's results is what I'm saying. You're having that that's what I'm asking. So if you're if you see the results and that it has been um successful, yeah, then figure out figure out a way to keep it. That's what I'm saying. I have no Last thing I want, what's our admin over there? I agree. What does the administration Well, I think they're going to want positive view. Yeah. The issue is it's a balloon. We're squeezing the balloon. Yeah. If you're going to keep it, you got to take something

119away to pay it, right? Or use more a fund balance to pay it. Well, that's why I'm wondering if we like what Sandy said, if you get creative, maybe take out a security monitor, put in um because and I still have questions about what they really do in their day because I don't that's new since I've been back on the board. I don't know what a security monitor is other than check lock doors. That's one thing I've heard so far. But maybe we if we did take one of those out, we can pay for positive view. I think it sounded like a great program. I'm all for that. Um may I mean I don't know. I don't know that we couldn't fit the student advocate duties in other roles and then maybe we find different

120places for these two student advocates to fill their day. Now that we have more openings and stuff, I don't want to see anybody lose part of their day. Um, we would just have to find different places for them and kind of fill gaps that we have. But I don't know that those role it sounds like we made those roles because to kind of fill their gap not because the stu the social worker the counselor and the dean of students couldn't do those things and if we're looking at reallocating funds because we don't have enough that would be something I would go back to the drawing board on. We we filled we filled the gap because that program was coming into place. So in order to help it work better if you will that's that's where

121that came about. And in a perfect world, if we had all the funds, great. I'm glad it worked out this year. But if we're trying to save some money, I think there might be other more creative ways with the people we have on hand like the counselor, the social worker, students, and we don't know at this point. They may have a full schedule. Correct. In the preliminary runs of the schedule, we haven't filed. We have a net loss in FTS at the high school but a net gain in the middle school which new is zero. So like for instance our computer teacher only wants to be part-time. He was originally hired with only want to be parttime but when Kathy Combo left he said I would fill in take the full-time position. So if I

122take a part of his schedule out I'm reducing the FTS at the high school. But then currently the middle school, every teacher at the middle school has a full schedule. Nobody has a part schedule. So in this case there, unless we're going to do it on their prep hour, nobody would be picking up the advocate in the middle school. You got to remember in the middle school, you've got a small group of eighth graders leaving and now all of your grade levels are about 120 kids. So there's a couple extra sections we need to fill the vacancy of the eighth grade. So that's why you got the plus in the the FT. So as a net, right now we're neutral. Less in the high school, more in the middle school. Right now, Michelle Maples, I

123believe, has a full schedule um based on student request. Based on student requests, as with all that, we look at student requests. Okay. Is this how low do we go? That's something and we've run classes very long in the past. But we could run this program without without those individuals if we had the positive you program has nothing to do with those individuals. They were strictly right that's budget to get a full schedule. It's hard to keep and and I want to make sure I'm saying this and I'll just I'll pick on Brandon. That doesn't mean Brandon had a part. He's going to get the part done schedule. someone down the chain that would have gotten the part time check but not Brandon. We did and I don't know what one of the items I

124think it's on our next sheet but so the to speak to the positive you at the past PE day they did train the entire staff on some pieces so that capacity the attempt is to build that capacity so it's not resting on one person um but again you know we have that and then we look at the budget and you know I mean so it's it's always a work in progress but that is the thought is that that's really building out versus being something brand Okay. So, the positive view is a priority for me. It is. I agree. I'm not. So, can I just Is this a good time? What else do the security monitors do? Oh, they Let's see. It depends on the building. Sometimes they're taking sick kids from point A to point

125B at the elementary school or bringing them to the classroom. Um sometimes we have kids that um they're out of high school, they're outside of certain bathrooms that have problems with kids during break high school. They're making sure that kids have passes to be out of classes which has significantly reduced the number of kids wandering through high school like home. Yeah, that is basically home. They have they have a checklist that they go through to make sure you pull all the doors to make sure that you know someone left and it didn't close right, you know. So between classes they double check that. Um I see there's six here. So is that two per school then? Yes, there's an AM person and a PM person. So that they have basically 6 and 1/2 hours a

126day. But I want to make it clear to the new two new board members here that we put these positions in play to be um more competitive to keep bus drivers. So it gives them a full it qualify for all single. They're all getting single. So they're familiar with the kids, you know what I mean? And stuff like that. But that is that's the main reason why we did it so that we could keep bus drivers cuz we were having there was a shortage and there's we were having a hard time getting them. So we were training and then some fun training because they were shortening their hours or benefits, right? How do other other school districts give them hours? They have two-tier bus systems, so they have the hours and the the healthare. And

127we did kind of explore that as well. And that's just way too It's just not It's didn't seem like it was small. Okay. It's more than $100,000. Yes. Right. [Music] All right. So, walk the walkway on this one is we're adjusting, but we can make this budget work. The next one becomes a little more challenging. 31A. At the top of the sheet, we carried over 230,000. We had an allocation of 641,000. Um, and you can see this is where we spent dollars on progress learning, Ames web and go into DW, but advanced placement testing for those that take AP classes. We pay for the test. the NSMQT, which is the fall test we give to 11 graders to see how they're how they're going to do. Uh we've had to pay for AP training for

128teachers who are new to an AP course and the compensation that goes with that. Uh here's the positive you staff development. Um so it's not just a 31A, it's also in 31A. Um once after COVID we began trying to get kids caught up on credits. So if they took credit recovery during the year we paid for that and pay for a 31A. Uh our consultant from the ISD consultant we have two part of their instructional coaches are paid out of 31A. The other part is paid out of general fund. um Kagan books that we did um for the past one that we did last summer. Um we had some we had some one-time expenses like there was a book cart that did not get purchased for that fifth second grade for whatever reason. So we

129got that paid for which is the um um progress monitoring. It's a tool that they also use. This SAV we bought the level readers for the classroom. A little bit was paid out of 30. Most of it was paid out of the the literacy grant we got which is expended this year. So in the LL in in the first block there it says the uh the total cost was 188 but then in the expenses is 156. So the difference was paid out of another grant. Okay. Or general fund but not grant fun. Um in the we have part of Autumn Walter's salary was paid out of 31A. Um it's not enough could be paid out of title one. So we had to pay for a portion out of 31A. The four paras that we started

130the year with were paid out of 31A and we started that when I showed you that title grant we used to pay these out of title but as that went down we shifted them to this grant. uh one of the pair has left us. So we just didn't replace that pair. That's why there's a cost discrepancy. In the middle school, we have the support classes for math, the ACRI classes, which is the language arts realm of support. And then we had um Autumn used to part of her day was at the middle school, part of her day was at the high school. We moved her all to the or elementary, excuse me. We moved her all to the elementary school. Um, Miss Lynn, um, Aaron picked up three sections. Again, we hired her because we

131needed a part-time ELA teachers to fill her schedule. We gave the the title or at risk part of her day. Normally, that would have only been two, but this year we had to do three to create a full-time schedule. There's a sub cost when those teachers are absent for that hour that's charged there. At the high school, we have alter one, geometry and alter 2 supports, which was put in two years ago, maybe three years ago, and then English 9 and 10 supports. We have an SAT math class. So those hours are paid out of 31A. Part of our current social workers are paid out of 31A. The rest are non-grant general fund dollars. So basically um 47th of a day is on a grant and the 37th is on a 7 period day is

132paid out of general. Uh the ondemand practice tutoring cost us $11,000 almost $12,000 a year. And then the accelerated reader software uh and for K8 and then the supplies or the incentivate incentivize gets us to that 872,000. We don't anticipate any carryover assuming we have the same allocation. If you remember at the last board meeting, I said that formula and those documents show that we definitely should get 6,000 less based on the formula. But in this one, I assume that we're 6 um 41,000 going away from progress learning and as just doing the LL as one system. So yeah, with SAS, they now cover the things we were doing with fires learning and as their partner built into those. So we'll just adjust and be a savings for us. This is still putting that we're

133paying for the AP testing for those students that take choose to take AP classes. This is the 11th grade testing still there. Um we know of at least one teacher who's going to need AP training for neck this summer and then the cost. Um this is based on last year where there was a couple so it might not be that high and we could get a retirement. We got a sent another two that I know. How often do you got to do the training for a teacher? just when they're newly starting. So, it's a one time thing. Okay. All right. Um you'll see on here some we some of it zeroed out positive view the credit recovery. We're going to go back to precoid. Um kids who need to be retake an algebra 2 class

134rather than keep a full schedule and then have the credit recovery algebra 2. We got to put them into the schedule of algebra 2. Um, we have the EL requirement that we have to support for EL learners. This has the instructional coaches part of their day. It zeros out Kaggin, zeros out that book card. There's the LL between LL and SAP as Billy said. Um, this would eliminate all title one support errors, keeping the intervention classes with only two at risk here. Um, currently the the first or whatever round we're on in the schedule, currently she only has two built into her schedule. She has another class picked up, so I only have really two spots that I could offer. Um, keeping the supports at the high school, keeping the supports at the social workers.

135Here's the moving Darby Smith. Half of her, remember, half was out of 31A, half to be out of 31A. uh eliminating the practice on demand um and the supplies for accelerated reader. You can see we're still $102,000 over budget for 31A. Now, if if what was put in the press actually happened, we should have a 4% increase in our 31A allocation. But the reality is that's not what's happening. So, I'm just placing right now because I know we're going to have not all these expenses in this year. The supply, we might have 3,000 carryover. We might have some that did didn't come to fruition. Um, most of the people are pretty they're spot on. So, unless they're absent and they're taking unpaid leads, which none of them are, um, I don't think we're going to

136be that far off on a lot of this. Can I ask you about um the practice on demand tutoring? Oh, I know we have that zeroed out here. Um just I thought and I don't know if this is still true or not, but I thought that the um National Honor Society they offered like tutoring to like do they still do that? They put out a list that they have done it. Okay. All right. I don't know the how many people take advantage of it. I don't And we can bring numbers. I mean it's on demand. It's not real. I was ask that was one of my questions. You gave us some information about that a little bit ago. Yeah, we can pull we I can we can easily put together because every month we get

137a report that says how many kids signed up kids are parent how many actually showed up and how many what curious I guess. It's not it's it's okay. If it's 10 a month that's a lot. Okay. Can I ask a question about the support at the elementary school? So, taking that out, is that are we taking that out because it isn't needed or are we taking that out because we can't find? No, I'm not I'm not saying it's not needed. Okay, that's not So, how many kids are is that supporting right now? Is that how many kids does it support? How many kids utilize that? Well, generally they target their bottom 30 in a building. Yeah. Um, so if there's roughly 500 kids, 150 kids are are probably targeted. There's probably 30 to 40 a

138grade level that they're targeting. So, who will work for this was my second question. Sure. Yeah. Heidi and I talked about this today. Um, I mean, we still, you know, with the concept of still having a teacher in the spot, right? They can still have their teacher, but it would just be, you know, that teacher would be able to do less in the time. Yeah. Because she wouldn't be able to, okay, do the instruction and this group is with the parent, you know, it would so it would be similar but less, right? So, I'm going to throw out a crazy thing and might be the unpopular thing. I know we saw a presentation on the instructional coaches last week and I love that idea. I really do. I think it's great for the new teachers

139coming in to the field. I think it's amazing that those teachers are getting support because hopefully it will retention, right? We'll keep teachers and I'm all for that. But if I had to choose between taking that down to one and helping maybe less still helping the teachers that need it, but maybe they go on a list and you they just have to get on the list and maybe we do focus on the teachers that are brand new versus teachers that have been here, whatever. Maybe there's some stuff we look at. I would rather the kids be getting that support. So, let me let me play this out. Yeah. If you cut an FTE, one person, we have one paid out of grant general fund non-grant and one FT paid out of grant. That's how we

140get the two people. It's kind of half 65.65 out of grant.35 out of general fund. Okay. So, let's just for the sake of being the ease of the conversation, let's do we'll keep the one in general and we cut the grant one. Yeah. If you cut the grand [Music] one, you'll basically balance the budget and you still don't have the pair of pros back in the budget. If and I don't want to cut both, but if you cut both, then we're probably flat. If you cut the paras and you cut one after you cut both instructional coaches again, I love the program. That's what I'm saying. If you look Oh, you're talking. Well, so then you're going to put the you're going to put the paras in the general fund, not grant costs. I I'm

141saying if we put the paras back in here and have the instructional coaches because only half the coaches are paid. Only half the coaches paid out here, the other half is paid out of another fund. So if I cut the one out of here, yeah, that's equates to the 93 or 97. Where is it? 25. So this is this is a good chunk of them. Mhm. So you're talking 190,000. Yeah. Yeah. But then I need to move more. I got to increase the general fund cuz cuz only 35.35 is on the general fund. So a third of that's got to increase on that. But let let's assume I cut to 190. That gives me 82 88,000 to work with. So you could you could put some of the pairs back in here. I just feel

142like but but your positive view and now the difference in the instructional coaches is now eating away that general fund. And I say that in respect. I don't mean that in a bad way. It's what the what we have to work with. So not having instructional coaches increases our general fund dollars. I mean it increases what we have. If you're saying get rid of both instructional coaches if we have then you're going to save out of the grant 190 and out of general fund you're going to save the difference. though. Uh the total the two total costs is 290 295 because that's let's just say 290. You're going to save 100,000 on the job. Is that their whole job? This is their whole day. Their whole their whole day all all week. I feel like

143it's a luxury. I would love to keep at least one. I would. I just again if our funds are lower some things have to go and I wouldn't take it from the elementary school kids who need support and put it on the teachers. I just wouldn't. How do how do you look at it as a luxury? I think it's a great to have but I think I think the principles could be sitting in on classes and watching teachers and giving feedback. Now can they spend their whole day? No. But don't they sit in on the new teachers when they're teaching them? Well, sure. But couldn't they also evaluating and the work that has been done with the instructional coaches and the teaching staff is monumental. But do you think it's more monumental than the parents

144working with the kids? I think it's as monumental. If you have to pick, then you have to pick. But okay, but but if I have to pick if I if I keep the instructional coaches and what they are doing throughout the whole teaching staff might could assist the fact that the parapro stuff goes. I just feel like, and I know I've said it before, it might be a broken record, but I feel like those kids who need that extra help already take so much time away from the teachers. I think the parapros help offset that. They also have to have time to work with the kids who are achieving higher. They can't spend all of their time. Those paras I think take a lot off of the teachers in a good way. I just don't

145in my opinion I don't know that we should just cut it in from the elementary school. That's just my opinion. I'm not saying it has to be the instructional coaches but no I somewhere else. Why do you think it's a luxury? That was the question because I I feel like in it. I just do. I love the idea. Can I Can I ask the question this way? Pick any company out there and if you had 30% of your employees who were new, what support do companies give those new employees to make sure they're successful for the overall mission of the company? In education, the only way we do it is through professional development and models like this. I can't say let's shut down school other than on PD day and say I'm going to send

146you all to a conference cuz I got these costs and all that. We just don't operate that way. And that's part of the conversation we've had with changing our calendar in building that time in so that our teachers can work together. The reality is we have 30% of our staff right now who are less than 5 years into the teaching profession. Of that 30, I'm going by my number so I could be off a little. Six of them are hashtag teach who have no training in teacher education courses. Don't get me wrong, they're good. I'm not saying that they're bad, but they have a they need support. We could say principles could do it. We could say I just this is an internal battle Billy and I have had because I was there with you

147from the perspective of that's an easy cut. But what the the push back I get is how are we going to support if we don't have people helping our teachers? It's going to affect the learning in our classroom. That's the whole point. But I don't that I don't think it should be at the like. So let me let me ask you let me ask you this question. Who's better to put in front of the kids? The person that has the most experience, the most training, or the person who can you go to the doctor, you go see the doctor, not necessarily the nurse. Okay? And I'm not saying our paras are aren't bad because we have some very good dedicated pairs, but they haven't been trained in a lot. So, they're just using what they've

148learned over time. And please don't take that this they're they're bad people or they're they're not doing a good job cuz they are. That's not my intent. But if I can put an instructional person who's got the tricks in the background, to me, that's a But do they have the time to go to every kid and figure out where their deficits are? It was my understanding when they they came in with their presentation that they're there to more assist the teachers with developing specific techniques to to kind of reach additional students. Like if they're having a problem with how to present something, the the additional professionals would be like, "Well, this here's another option of how you can do a different method of instruction." Um, that was my interpretation of that. Uh Sarah, I I

149definitely agree with you. I think that pair of professionals um would be a priority over the other option. Um you know, not again, not not that the other one's a bad option. It's good, but I I think pair of professionals would would be more strategic um in that. And uh yeah, I just How are they more strategic? Well, because they're there all the time, right? So, so no, no. I'm the argument that the the pair pro spot is more strategic. What is that argument as opposed to the teacher and the training and all the work that is done through the literacy coaching? How is the parapro more strategic? I don't I don't understand. Maybe strategic isn't the word I'm looking for, but I just I I think they're more consistent. Maybe that's that's where I

150think that's a bad because now because when you say that then the the teachers the the literacy coaches all the work that is being done that's not consistent. You mean they're always there with the children. I'm not going against the teacher at all. That's not what I'm saying. I know but but this whole the whole literacy coaching the whole program is all about the teaching and the better education of our students. Listen I I would like us to be able to figure out a way that though that the pair of pro spots stay that we we figure out something. I think they I think both areas are extremely important, but I think that that the instruction coach, the whole teaching, everything that we've been doing is critical and has been critical in the last couple

151of years on the the the the progress, the processes that we've done. Just my opinion, I'm saying quite because I am too, but I'll be behind you. Okay. Sorry. I'm very torn with this because this is tough. This is one of the tough the tough things you got to do. And I I understand and agree both sides of this coin, I guess. And um so that makes it tough. So I wonder if we could could we split it then like splitting I feel like you know what I mean? Like then just doing away with one and I understand what you're saying that that's not really much of a savings but it might be able to give us a couple of pair of pros instead of maybe you know all of them. No, maybe maybe that's

152not because that's not going to happen. Well, if if I if I cut one right now just again because they're like the 665 let's assume that's.5 and the other is out of general fund not grant right if I cut one of those. So I have one and a half error pros. One of those is going to get us close to zeroing this out. I still didn't put the other the other people back. Yes. If I cut the other half, so I truly only have one. You could put some of those cuz now I have two of these gone, right? I could put some of those pairs and I'm going up and down. Yeah. Back in. I may not be able to put three, but I can put some of them in. Right. Okay. Inappropriately, but

153you That's okay. Okay. So, first up, um, the instructional coaches, you know, you talk about administrators, they could do it. What happens, and you're you're talking to an administrator here. I could not give the consistency and the follow through and the daily peace that our instructional coaches can do because you have emergencies, you have parents come in, you have this, you have that. that spot as a principal or and or our Dina students you can never set a solid time because you have so many pieces in the day that you have there are days that you can set an agenda this is what I want to accomplish and it doesn't happen so it's very hard to provide that consistency I agree with some of the comments that have been said there what we have been

154doing with them only strengthens our teachers And if they are not strengthened, then it's teaching is not going on in that classroom. And what we're teaching them is that relationship building. We're teaching them instructional strategies so that in our at risk room, there may be strategies that can help if we don't. Now, I'm with Sandy. I'm torn between both. So, I say, "Okay, can we look at something else? Is there something else we can move out or take out that we wouldn't have to get rid of either one? I believe the instructional coach is very important and that comes from my administrative experience. Um, but I also believe that the paras are important too. So, can we look at anything else? Is there I know but those two. Can we look at something else? I

155don't know. In terms of the social workers, um, is there any other new grants out there that maybe are being offered for that? I don't know about our social workers for some of the things like a positive view for some of those where it's a small, you know, like those are type of things I could begin to explore some grants. the social ones are a little trickier to actually like a person like if you're paying for a person that is the trickiest thing. Yeah. Okay. Um but if I you know you know to get a grant for program and we know how much program like that's a doable I mean we see it's guarantee but that's something I could explore for a person it's like accelerated reader KA right? Could we possibly maybe look for

156a grant on that? Could we possibly look for a grant on what was the other one you just mentioned? The positive you kind of or maybe we but we're still not we're still short. Yeah. And it sucks to have to make these decisions. I just would like to make Yeah, it we have to make one. And I'm not against the instructional coaches at all. Don't if anyone got that don't think that I am. I'm not. It's just we have to choose and I'd like to see some support with the elementary school kids. However, we have to make that happen. So, so let me ask you this. I started this chart with you guys at the beginning on a sheet that we you know the pluses and minuses column on the So if the idea is

157that one full instructional coach was in this budget general fund not grant and the at risk was in the other one the paras and basically taking the instructional coach out of a grant. We can do that and run those numbers cuz we just like said we have the in the got the pluses and minuses of scheduling. Then let's see that. I'm just going to say let's see what that will do us. There's got to be another way. I just have to find what's what's killing us. It's probably a very harsh word is not getting a per pupil allocation this year. Yes. Right. That's killing us because that was one time money that now we lose and now they're going to give it. Well, you have all your cost increases and now we're playing catchup. That's

158what's happen and not I'll just I'll get on my platform. They're paying for this roads. They're paying for it because in the back of the school aid budget, they took all those line items out and they're paying for the roads through the school aid funds of public education. That's the problem. And they'll they'll celebrate. Even our own representatives say we solved the problem. We've got the money. We don't have to raise taxes. You took it from school aid. You've been taking it for years. So that's my two cents. Sorry. Okay. So are we all right? I will we'll play around the numbers. Bill and I we got a direction to bring to the next meeting. Okay. Thank you very much on that both of you. Solid numbers. Okay. Next item on our agenda is our

159Blue Devil raids. Uh Candace. Yes. I'm sorry. I get you. Last last meeting. Okay. So, um, first I want to, um, do a shout out to the Blue Devils track team for coming in first place in the 2025 spring fling competition this past Saturday. And, um, congratulations to Nick Palumbo for scoring a 98 um, out of 100 in a very, very windy day. It was freezing cold. I don't know how he managed to do a 98, but he did. And, um, we had quite a few other um, top 95s and up. So, it was it was an amazing amazing competition to watch even though it was crazy. Uh, my other shout out is to um Miss Lemon um for um dedicating all her efforts and preparation for the fun 9th grade field trip to the

160Holocaust Museum last week. Um I know my husband attended and um it was very informative. It was very well um planned and just a a really fun field trip for the ninth grader. So that was that was great. Um one other one I have is oh shout out to Chef Sarah Bishop um who is the culinary arts and Blue Devil Cafe. Um she calls herself the chef um plus teacher. Um, so I went prior to Easter and had lunch with my husband and we ended up um buying a carrot cake for our Easter um dinner. And um it was absolutely amazing. My father-in-law went pretty much ate half the cake and said it was the best carrot cake he had ever had. Um it was decorated beautifully. Came in a beautiful box of old. So

161it was just it was a great experience. And shout out to Sarah Bishop and the um culinary arts class. They did a great job, all of them, even down to the waiting staff. And it was great. That's it. Elsa, Margaret. Um I have a few here. Um Saturday night, the Richmond Education Foundation did our annual fundraiser and I just want to shout out to Miss Woolock and our life skill students. They did the plants. um flower centerpieces for our tables and to our high school culinary class. They baked cookies that we put at all the table settings. So, um the cookies were a big hit. Um as well when you said the carrot cake made me think their cookies were really good, too. Um so, thank you to them. They helped make our event great.

162Um and I just want to shout out to Cynthia. Last week was administrative assistant day. So, thank you for the work that you do for us and get all our stuff together for us for meetings. We appreciate it. That's it. Sarah, hi Sandy. I uh Raymond. Yeah, just another shout out for the track team shooting really well. So, um having shot stuff like that before, getting that high a number is quite exceptional with the windy conditions. So, great job. Um, I just want to shout out to before I start coughing here. Um, the students from the Richmond community who uh worked this week at the uh rumage event that was held by St. Augustine. Our students were very well. They worked hard. They were there on time. They did a really nice job. So, I

163just want to shout out to them. Oh, excuse me. Elizabeth, you want to do our student report? Sure. Okay. So, we'll start with the high school. It's coming time for seniors to graduate and get all that stuff away. So, the senior information document is being updated each week and was sent to families on Monday afternoon. It can also be accessed on the school website under principal and newsletter. Um, this is where all commencement, awards, etc. information is housed. Students and parents should check back frequently for the most updated information. Um, congratulations to the all BWAC um, academic representatives at the MAC all academic and Mac all academic program. Um, we enjoyed celebrating their accomplishments. Um, the ninth graders were on that field trip to Hol Museum arranged by Miss Lemon. Um, over 100 students went

164and learned about the event and the impact history. Um, lots of field trips are coming up. Tomorrow, teacher cat is attending Oakland and then later this week, green club is going to zoo. I know there's like two more going on tomorrow. Um, prom season has started. Students were able to buy their tickets last week. Um, reminder that prom is May 16th. And then the Red Cross blood drive in memory of Cheyenne for Shaggy is scheduled for May 6th. It will run from 8:00 a.m. until 6:00 p.m. And information on how to register is available on the flyers. And then for the middle school, they have a lot going on. They have NWA testing. The teachers do a fantastic job maintaining the positive energy and productive cycle. Um they were honored to we honored our amazing

165school secretaries, Miss Stephanie Gar and Miss Castuchan. On Wednesday, April 23rd, administrative professionals day, um they had their first RMS track meet at home Thursday, April 24th. The boys scored 34 points north branch 89 and girls dominating with 90 points against North Branch's 42. They're so proud of their teams, their sportsmanship, and um how hard they worked. Uh this Wednesday, April 30th, um RMS is hosting our second annual Battle of the Boss competition beginning at 4:00. This Thursday, May 1st, RMS is hosting our second annual RMS Film Festival beginning at 6:00 p.m. Um Miss Mela and Miss May are had the opportunity to take several potential RMS families on a tour of our building and we're able to showcase the many great learning opportunities our students have. Um we hope these tour we hope these

166tours and several we have coming up bring more families to the great district. And then for elementary school, this one's pretty short today. Um, preschool will be hosting donuts with grown-ups on Wednesday, April 30th. It is a great time for our families to come and enjoy some fun activities and special time for preschoolers. Um, it's an annual tradition in the early childhood center and is going to be exciting day for everybody. Students are showing incredible growth in NWA and they're very proud of their hard work. Um, for athletics and extracurriculars, um, despite several cancellations with schedules, spring sports are continuing on. Um the nice weather has been all too this week. So um varsity baseball team swept their head and seal on Tuesday. Softball did the same and followed up with two wins against our

167meetup. The middle school and high school track team hosted events on Thursday and Friday respectively. Um they wanted to thank all the volunteers that came and helped to make their events run smoothly. And I know they hosted big sale for club to um I think it's adopt and honor. So I think they made like almost $200 off it. So, um, the track team took first place at their spring plane on in Mason on Saturday. Boys golf hosted BWAC Jamberee at Bridgemond Forest this afternoon. Girls soccer is on the road on Tuesday. Um, there's still time to submit nominations for the athletic hall of fame class 2025. Nomination criteria and the link to submit nominations can be found on the district website. Um, athletic boosters are also looking for those interested in purchasing bricks for the

168wall outside the high school gym. Those interested can visit the a can visit the athletic page on the district website or contact the athletic department. Um color guard workshops and auditions will be held after school in the high school for the week of May 5th and the audition will be made. They can work with sports schedules. No band experience is necessary. Um dance, choir or performing arts is suggested. Um debate club signups are still out. And then Legally Bond is open 4 days. Their shows will take place Friday, May 2nd at 7:00 p.m. and Saturday, May 3rd at 7 p.m. Take it to the bottom liner. Thank you very much, Mr. Waldley. Uh, superintendent, legislative update. in the uh from legislative uh update. The um House Education and Workforce Committee is having hearings on school

169safety um prior to our last board meeting. Uh and actually since our last board, I should say, there's a couple bills that have been approved on the committee and are are moving on. Um House Bill 4225, which require say be printed on the back of student ID badges. I believe we already do that on ours. So don't need a mandate for that. That's what they're asking for. House Bill 4229 would require the state police to issue quarterly reports on the number of tips they receive related to the school. What purpose that is, but other than to say that this school got so many tips, we're going to do it. Again, this is our legislator's priority right now. House Bill 4222 would mandate schools to update their school safety plan every 3 years that each building

170have a crisis response team. That's been in place for do that. House Bill 4226 would switch one fire drill to a lockdown drill. We're going to do more drills than required, but okay. 42227 would require every intermediate school district to have one emergency and safety manager and one mental health coordinator, but there's no funding attached to that. And House Bill 4258 and House Bill 4259 would require okay to say tips to be transmitted to the effective school and local law enforcement as soon as possible, but within 24 hours. Um, this is this is we already get calls on the weekends from our police when we get calls. So, I don't know what this prior. All five have been moved on to the house for further consideration. Next one. The legislators are now talking about cell

171phone bans and getting policy. There's two bills that have been introduced or in committee. One is Senate Bill 234, which I guess if they're going to have to approve one, that would be the one I would recommend approving. It would require all school districts to adopt the policy and implement wireless communication devices and limited school phone use during instructional times and reducing phones for distractive areas. Basically, it's what we do now with the red, yellow, green. We identify areas that you can't use a phone. Many teachers identify classrooms, no classrooms. Um, this one does this um does have uh options for IEP and medical use opt out if you will. Uh, the other one, House Bill 41, is pretty much a blanket oneizefits-all policy for everybody across the state, which I don't know about you,

172but I don't want our policy to mimic people on the west side or the north or the south. It's what works for Richmond. But this one doesn't have there's no exceptions. So, the before I get into the district the today I sent communication out to staff. Um if you recall last budget that was approved by the state for fiscal year 26. It was a big deal about schools getting this huge retirement savings money. We're going to reimburse employees the 3% that they've been overcharged for years. that will make it law October 1st of 25. So they gave us an allocation of 15159,000. To date we spent 135. So that reimbursement stops June 10th. So June 25th, July 10th, July 25th, August 10th, August 25th, September 10th, and September 25th, there's no money to reimburse employees

1733%. So the state again underfunded what they promoted as we're giving this money to schools. So I sent out an email to staff that basically says bas I'm giving you three paychecks to get prepared but come the June 25th the 3% that's taken out. You're not going to see it put back cuz we're out of money. It equates to about $60,000 we would have to come up with to keep reimbursing staff from June 25th through September 25th. Again, um I just be cautious how they promote it because there's if you're not raising revenue, you're taking it from one pot to feed another pot of funds. So, uh district update um we have the academic banquet. So, uh, board member Fortuna, Sean and Telto are going to join me on that one. Club Day photographs are

174this Wednesday at the high school. Um, make sure you smile for that one. If you have Thursday or Friday, an opportunity to go to the Blue Devil Cafe if you get there early before they run out of food. This week's menu is a watermelon fajita mint salad or a mixed green salad. There's a side of loaded baked potato salad, barbe pulled pork barbecue sandwich, and strawberry shortcake. So, that's being served this week. Um, who else if you can make it? It's from 10:30 to 1:00. Uh, it's open to the public. Uh, this weekend is the performing arts for the Legally League blonde. So, uh, after meeting with the co-directors last week, Miss Sims and Mr. Braun, um, the thing that they're most excited about is the audience, the acting, singing, and the dancing that's involved

175with this. So, it's really going to be good. We talked about the blood drive already. Uh, and then board member Styer and I, if anybody adds that wants to join us, you can still come, just let me know, are going to head to the early college graduation on May 7th. Um, high school won first division today, their honors corral at Oakland University today. Um, May 13th is their final concert and they're not charging. So, it's a free concert on May 13th. So, they are really good. Um, can I ask you a question? Y um normally in the past they would like a food drive though when it wasn't like a cost to know if they're doing that. I haven't seen anything they put out that references but if I hear anything cuz usually they'll put

176out a flyer. Yeah. Um I'll let you guys know but I haven't I have not seen any. Um um just want to thank the foundation again for the the fundraiser. They do really good work. And for those that don't know, the scholarships we give seniors who graduate, the number of summer camps they've been able to send kids to. And then this is staff grants um just really help it and make Richmond a great place to be. And then finally, just prior to our next board meeting on May 12th, uh I sent you an appointment. We have the cl uh class of 2025 top 10 dinner that we honor them at on May 12th. And then right before the board venue, we'll also have the reception for the teacher of the year on that one. So

177that was at 6:30, right? It's it's 5 I think your calendar has five. I think if we start by 5:30, we're eating. Okay. All right. We should be done by 6:30 and then we'll have the reception for the teacher and recognize them. Okay. At the board meeting. I think that's it. Okay. That's it. Thank you very much. Um, items of items of interest from the board. Sandy, uh, I don't have anything tonight. Thank you. Margaret, uh, Raymond, nothing. Sarah, no. Any families? Yes, I do. Um, so I was not on the board. Um, when this is regarding the standard based grading versus the traditional percentage grading system, I obviously wasn't on the board back when we decided to change over. Um, so I guess I'm I'm just asking Brian, is there any way that we

178can get some sort of a presentation or um something that just kind of talks about how Richmond has one way or the other pros or cons to when we decided to switch that over? Um, has it helped our our grading system here specific to Richmond? I mean, I educated myself about the two different systems, but how has it actually worked for us? So, is there something in particular? You're looking for an outcome that could there be at this point? I don't know if we've been doing it enough years. I know was it 2018 19? What year was that? We were on the board. I was on the board longer longer than that. No, I remember it. I mean, yeah. Yeah, cuz I think it was my first year and I came on in 2015. So,

179I want to say 15 16 shares. I don't remember. Okay. I think it was around 15 16. I think it was I think you're right because I was on the board and I remember being brand new. I No, there was a presentation. Everybody got up and presented. I very much remember that. You're talking about that whole deal at the high school of the whole graing the whole No. So maybe that was her. I'm not sure. You think it started 15? I got on I think she's 15 16 school year. I would say it was one of my first votes. And I'll tell you what, I didn't know enough. I just listened to everybody, all the professionals, and I if I could go back and undo some of that, I would. I would love to get

180a presentation going. I think as a parent seeing it now kind of I don't think it helps our eighth graders at all transitioning into nth grade. I know it was a big culture shock for my now 9th grader going from that and I don't care for it myself as a parent from parent perspective. I don't care for now from I'd love to hear the teachers and what they think. I'd also love maybe a parent survey or something because I know a lot of parents from what I've heard don't like it. Um but I yeah I'd love to Yeah. Even a followup. I I just the the upper levels of the middle school going into the high school. I think um I think maybe even you know the idea of perhaps starting at in 8th grade

181going down to the traditional based um I it has been interesting having a ninth grader this year. Um, yeah. And I really I've attended all the conferences I could in 8th grade and 9th grade. And I mean, as a parent, I understand we as parents had to transition ourselves, you know, but I just wanted to see if um I haven't had any issues with it with, you know, other until, you know, there's been some questions about the proficiencies and who, you know, gets what grade and it's subjective, but it's Yeah. and how that goes. I I question grading subjective. I was just going to say standards based is better than giving a grade. I can tell if you take a test though, you're right or you're wrong, right? I mean, other than an essay, yeah,

182we truly want kids to be explaining. We shouldn't be giving multiple choice. Correct. It should be demonstrate. It should be show me you know the should be explain your writing, your thought process. For example, my daughter was absent. We were on vacation last year when and she was in eighth grade then and so she missed a lesson. and she got an NP. She's never gotten an NP in her life, but because we were on vacation the time that that standard was talked about, she got an NP on one standard. On one standard that threw me over the edge. I was so happy. But grading, if I get a zero on But you make it up then. Once you get a zero, it's hard to If you're on vacation, you should be able to make it

183up. No. No. Why? No. What? Because we don't encourage vacations. We encourage you to be here, but you're that's unrealistic. First of all, that's unrealistic. All right. Okay. I would agree. It's the the the perspective of we're not going to be able to control or have any say over when family is taking vacation. But now put yourself from a teacher's perspective. I got two kids on vacation this week, two on vacation this week, three on vacation this week. How do you manage that? And it should be the students responsibility to make my angle is is we have 180 school days. We publish a calendar the district's actually I get you can take your own choice that is your choice as well or my choice as a family too. Sure. But there's got to be some

184parameters and it's I mean you look at high school on a half day half the kids only show up. if it's up for relevant wouldn't count in but I guess I just want to ask what kind of presentation though are you because I don't know why we did it in the first place why we switched over was it supposed to improve the academics of the children or more responsible for younger age or I mean what was I don't you want to know the why correct and and have we um has those expectations gone um on the why what's the impact did we meet the goal that we were looking what the why was so that's what you're not something to do with that so you're why why did we do it and whatever that reason

185was is how we've been doing it isn't working towards that why is that what you're saying pretty much yeah and is this having a is there data to show and it I would say is there data to show is this a positive or negative effect going from 8th grade to 9th because I feel like it was a culture shock and I I feel like 8th grade I agree with Candace maybe we don't change it for the whole middle school but I think eighth grade it's not helping them so then it goes down a great exactly no sure it shifts down it shifts down that's all it does is it shifts down but before their GPA is really hitting from high school they have a year to add to it and you are correct I mean

186the first they did I mean the high school is doing an amazing Now, by the way, I'm not saying not. They gave them their GPA after that first quarter. Um, it was great because it taught them, oh, watch this number. But they there was still that 3 4 months of I don't need to retake that when I should or you know, and then now the GP is here and we just it's harder to build up maybe than if we had learned a little bit of that last year, we maybe would have started out a little bit higher. And I again I don't want my situation to be whatever but maybe just to understand the why versus we what it was before. I agree and I just want to say I don't think it's just your

187situation. I've heard it from multiple parents in the community and also you know the educators and how they feel about it too. I mean I would love to hear I don't know if that happened back then. Um, yeah, they have concerns or I wasn't and I wasn't on the board. Well, it wasn't just done by administration. I There was a lot of support. It wasn't because I subbed over there at the middle school. I worked on those standards at the middle school and met with those teachers when I was subbing that first year that Mr. Burkemeer was out. they sat down and they picked we looked at what the standards are required from the state so that those standards were on the the sheet or the grid. I actually typed them up and filled them

188out. And the idea behind that is that you as a parent know exactly what standards these are the standards required by our state and these are the ones that your child knows or not knows. It spells it out much better than a letter B for an English class. But have you ever read some of them? Because I have. I wrote them and typed up about some of them are the standards like Yeah. And some of the grading on the standards. Mhm. Well, from what I understand, it breaks down the learning and and ties it. Well, what it does is it shows you specifically what those standards are. And again, if you were to ask me a B in English class here at the high school, do you know what that what what they're covering for

189standards? Do you have any idea? Absolutely not. You don't. But if you look at uh standards at the middle school in an English, it spells out exactly it it, you know, punctuation, commas, whatever it is, you know. So that's the idea behind this happened. recall the conversation, but I wasn't on the board when that happened and I didn't I didn't have a student that was graded that way. Um, so I mean I would be interested to see that it'd be good to review again. And and another side on Billy, you had mentioned a few times in some of your presentations also that you were kind of collecting um you know to try to make and maybe even our newer curriculum helps them but understand each class or what MP is, what an AP is kind

190of make it more um that we've been doing this year at the middle school and even like to talk to like the NPs definitely I think we all recognize that if someone is absent for something obviously there's a chance for them to to recoup that somewhere but truly um adding another category which we I think are calling um LP like lacking or le lacking evidence um so there was a situation where they were absent right before the quarter came to an end okay it's really more just like a they haven't gotten there yet like we don't we haven't been able to assess them and we'll get to it it's not saying that they don't so right no so I mean so we are but so I mean that's just one example But yes, so the

191staff at the middle school is going through right now kind of a refresh on it because I do think I think I mean I can definitely agree. It seems like there was a you know probably initially a lot of steam behind it and then you know things change co administrative changes I think kind of right curriculum it kind of probably wasn't as big of a focus. So we have been really trying to work on that this year. Um I've had lots of conversation with staff and you know trying to move in the right direction but I I agree it is a good time to back and have some more conversation and then we can do that in the presentation and move on from here. Okay. Although one thing I just want to ask Brian in

192that presentation can you maybe look at also what other districts in our area are doing and present that as well. Thank you. Okay. On the last one for items of interest. Um, everyone should have a copy of the vision statement. So that uh these were the ones that were um provided to me. Um what the process or what I would like to do is just have a basic discussion tonight and at our next meeting we will vote on either one mission statement that's on here or one that we may put together maybe pull it together. So does anyone have any thoughts on any one of these right now or that they really like strongly? Um, so we can just I'm just looking for a discussion right now at this time. Sure, I'll give you uh

193my two top two provide every student with the opportunity to succeed and lead in an inclusive and diverse world. And the other one is to inspire and empower students become compassionate, innovative, and responsible citizens of the world. Where was that one? I'm sorry. Uh, one, two, three, four. Thank you. I'm just kind of marking so I have some ideas. Thank you. Anyone else have any thoughts or inputs? I like um I I actually like one through three. The first top three um number one. I like I like number one. I think that I was just going to say that was one of my picks. See, did you Sarah say? Anybody else any thoughts? Anyone that if you thought you wanted to mix it up or know or I think it just go it goes with

194our mission statement well too. I think it's I don't think it has to be super long. No, no, it does not need to be. Okay. If there's no other discussion, then I'm going to bring it back um and we will pick a vote and go from there. Thank you very much. Okay. Public comments. Since the last board meeting, the the board received an email uh from a parent regarding her son's high school transcript. This email was directed to Mr. Wsley, who in turn directed it to Mrs. Zbo, who was able to correct the missing items that were on the transcript. Um, we the board received another email from an individual who rents uh golf simulators for student life parties. Again, this was forwarded to Mrs. Ael for consideration. There are no public comments that need

195addressing from the last board meeting. At this time, any member of the public may address the board. Please sign in and state your name. You have three minutes to address the board. Are there any public [Music] comments? Being no public comments, we will move on to our act. Can I just ask before you finish the the one transcript? The whole board got that email. I did not get it cuz I did. I got the email. So whatever I get it, I didn't forward it to you. I don't get that email. I apologize. I golf simulator I just thought was that one. I did get that one. Yeah. Okay. You need the for I know that. I know that. So, if I if I failed to do that, I apologize and I'll make sure that I

196do so in the future. Okay. Action items. I'm looking for a motion for the approval of an overnight extended student trip to Urbana, Ohio. I move to accept the recommendation of the superintendent and approve the overnight/extended student trip to Verbana, Ohio as presented on April 14th, 2025 and outlined in the attached documentation. Sandy, I'm going to give it to you. I heard your voice first. Any discussion? Sorry, Ray. Any discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. I'm looking for a motion for the approval of an overnight extended student trip to Hudson, Michigan. I motion to accept the recommendation of the superintendent approve the overnight extended student trip to Hudson, Michigan as presented on the April 14, 2025 meeting and outlined in the attached documentation support. Margaret got it first. Sorry again. Still got

197one more chance. One more. Um, any discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. I'm looking for a motion for the approval of a media center furniture for Will Lee Elementary School and the Richmond High School. I motion to accept the recommendation of the superintendent and award a contract to school specialty for media center manager at Will L School and Richmond High School for an amount not to exceed $135,67 as as outlined in the attached documentation. The non-bond capital project fund shall be utilized to purchase this Thank you. We're all going to be quiet anyway. Okay. Any discussion? This is a roll call vote. Candace, I. Raymond, I. Uh Margaret, I. Sandy, I. Sarah, I vote I. Motion carries. Being no further business, the board will adjourn at 9:45. Thank [Music] you. Heat. Heat.

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