001Okay. Uh, welcome to the Addison Township Board meeting. Uh, today is September 15th at 6 o'clock and we're holding the meeting at the Addison Township offices at 1440 Rochester Road in, uh, Addison Township. If we could all stand for the pledge, please. Ed, could you start? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, >> to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. If everybody would keep standing. >> Dear Lord, thank you for giving us this day, this a beautiful weather, and this blessing from you. We ask you bless this council management, the fire departments, police departments, as well as the guests that have joined us today on camera. Please put your hand on America as we mourn those who have died
002without any rhyme or reason. Please watch over our township and surrounding communities. We pray this in your blessed name. Amen. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Uh can we have roll call, please? >> Yes. Trusty Gall. >> Trusty Frost here. Trusty Eller here. Trusty Brafield >> here. >> Treasure McDonald >> here. >> Bennett present. Supervisor Pearson >> present. All accounted for. Any announcements? Uh department reports as usual available in my office. Uh petitions. >> Okay. Uh approval of the agenda. >> Move to approve the agenda. >> I'll second that. >> Okay. Any comment from the board? Could we have roll call, please? >> Ed Breakfield. >> Yes. >> Karen Dyel. >> Yes. >> Mary Frost. Yes. >> Jenny Eller. >> Yes. >> Mike McDonald. >> Yes. >> Bennett. Yes. Supervisor Pearson. >> Yes. Okay. Move on.
003Consent agenda. >> Yes. We only had two items. Approval of the August 18th, 2025 minutes and approval of the August invoices. >> I'll make a motion to um approve the consent agenda as presented. >> A second. >> Okay, we have a motion and we have a second. Any discussion? Not hearing any. Do we have a roll call on that, please? >> Yes. Jenny Eller, >> yes. >> Edfield, >> I abstained because I wasn't here. >> But yeah, but you >> he has a duty to >> I read the minutes out. Yes. >> Thank you. >> Mary Frost. >> Yes, because I read the minutes. >> Yes, cuz I was here. >> Yes. >> Are you here? Yes. Okay. Well, you're confusing me, Ed. >> Okay. You know what? I'm going to I'm I'm quitting. This
004is it. >> Okay. Well, you can't quit. That's not on the agenda. Okay. Uh item number two, a public hearing of resolution to authorize an SAD for Burns Hill and Lena Hill private roads in Addison Township. The town has and after due and legal notice reviewed a special assessment district prepared and submitted by the residents from the for the purpose of deferring maintenance costs for Burns Hill and Lena Hill, a private road in Addison Township. The township board received petitions signed by more than 50% of the record owners based on the tax roles of Oakland County constituting more than 50% of the total uh frontage of the proposed SAD requesting that the previously approved SAD established for 2022 through 2026 be rescended and replaced with the proposed SAD in the amount of $510 per parcel
005for each of the next five years for the purpose of road maintenance and common elements and a 10% collection fee for the township. Proper notice of the hearing has been published in the Oxford leader and mailed by first class mail to each property owner within the proposed SAD. The office of the supervisor verified and determined that petition for the Burns Hill and Lena Hill SAD is properly signed by the record owners of 15 parcels with 17 out of 21 signatures based on the tax roles or 81% and attached a petition for the board to determine the same. The special assessment role shall be designated as Burns Hill and Lena Hill Road Maintenance and the district uh which it is spread shall be designated as properties abuing the private road known as B burns Hill and
006Lena Hill SAD as submitted on petition. This is a public hearing where we listen only and we will open up the hearing. We will call it at 603. If anybody would like to speak in the public uh about the SAD for Burns Hill and Lena Hill, please come forward. I'll ask one more time if anybody would like to speak on the SAD for Burns Hill and Lena Hill. Uh please come forward. Not hearing anybody that would come forward. We will close the hearing at 6:04. >> Can I please For the public records, we received two letters from Ela Cohen, one dated uh August 21st and another one dated 9 um 8, 2025. Um both in opposition to the SA. >> And I also just received an email that I just just got off of my
007uh computer and it's the same thing. She has opposition to uh to the SAD and >> for so we have three from the public record. >> Okay. Any discussion on the SAD from the board? >> Yes, >> I did have occasion to speak with Ms. Koig um who wrote the three protests and advised her that she would be best to appeal directly to the board. She did not feel she didn't come. That's that's the bottom line. Um I do think that we should go on the record as if assuming we approve this um SAD that all the residents, not just the ones that sign petitions to approve it, are required to be serviced equally. It's not a matter of being able to take care of the ones that are contributing and ignoring because they're all
008forced to contribute if they weren't in favor of it. And I don't agree with some of the allegations that she's made. I think the SAD has done the best it could with the funds that it had at the time, but things are getting more expensive. And I I I personally looking at this I think the expense is just the ch the >> change is justifiable. That's >> okay. And I did uh reach out to Mr. Costster man who is the that the man who did the petition and I uh asked him to please um reach out to Miss Kunic about her concerns and he did and um um he forwarded a letter to me and then she didn't want of course the the emails to be known to so I then forwarded on to her
009and I'll just read this real quick to you. This is just a quick update to pass on information about the proposed new SAD. I had reached out by phone for your signature, left a message, but never was able to connect with uh when we needed the petition sign. The short of it is our funds do not cover the increases in cost of services and material to maintain improve our roads. We have been trying to add crushed limestone when possible, maintain it with grading and snow removal. Moving forward, we will only be able to afford one more grading and snow removal before the new monies are available in the spring of 2026. That's referring to until they get the new SAD. When the new funds start to accumulate, the goal is to add limestone at the
010Brewer Road entrance, which is right at her house, okay, site, and continue. The project is long-term, and the patience of our neighborhood is needed and greatly appreciated. I'm ass sure the township will be sending out notices. Thank you for your concerns and as always I will try to work with you opening the trenches to remove the water from the Burns Hill. I went over and took pictures and looked at her site and she does have a burm that is on her property that doesn't allow the water to go down to her pond. So I reached out to her and said, "If you would allow us to take that little burn down, the water would run off the road properly." And um so she said, "Well, she may let them come out and do that." Which
011and first of all, she went to me to explain what a burm is. I said, "That's where the road is lower than your grass." Okay? So the water can't get off the road. So anyways, um she now understands why the water is not leaving her road and she has a big duck pond. The water all goes there. So hopefully we can remedy that. And um Mr. Clustermanman said he will try. He's been over there by hand opening up her trench uh with a pick. So he has been trying and I have pictures of the trench that he has put in there. So I think it's just a miscommunications and hopefully they can fix that. So any other talk about it? >> Move a special assessment district resolution authorizing SAD for Burns Le. >> Okay, so
012we have a motion and we have support. Any further comments from the board? Could we have roll call, please? >> Mary Frost, >> yes. >> Ed Brefield, >> yes. >> Jenny Jenny Eller, >> yes. >> Karen Gwell, Mike McDonald, >> yes, yes. Supervisor Pearson. >> Yes. And that is so moved. Okay. Now we'll go on item number three which is the agreement for the office copier with applied innovation. We uh currently have an agreement with applied innovation that ends I think in January. They gave us two quotes. The first is for a faster copier and the second is for the same speed we currently have. The estimates are based on our current paper use average and and um which and both are lower monthly fees. Okay. Which is uncommon. A motion to approve the renewal
013and applied innovation for 5 years contingent upon legal review and approval of the new agreement and the agreement may commence December 1st, 2025 or thereafter. So my our question is do we want the new faster one or just the one that we've been satisfied with right now? >> So the new faster one is only it's 10 pages per minute and the only time that that's a concern is typically for a board meeting tack or park hard park hard park hard park hard park hard park hard park things. Um 10 pages per minute really isn't going to do a whole lot for us. So I'm fine with number two which keeps it as the same speed. >> Okay. Any further comments? Is that a motion? >> Um, I have to add a bunch of things to
014it if you want me to. >> I'm looking for a motion for somebody. >> I'd make a motion that we uh authorize the uh who signs the contract, the supervisor >> to for the lease. >> Who signs? >> We're not there yet because we didn't get an agreement. So basically I'm just looking that we need a motion to continue with applied innovation for five years contingent upon legal review and approval of the new agreement and then it can start anytime after December 1st. >> What she said but including that it's the Canon C5840i uh 40 pages per minute. >> Is that turbocharged pages per minute? >> 40 pages per minute. >> Yeah. I'll second Mike's motion. >> Okay. So, we do have a motion to continue the agreement and it's the same copier that we
015have right now. The same speed. >> Same speed. >> Um, anybody have any comments on that? Not hearing any. Could we have roll call, please? >> Karen Gel, yes. Jenny Eller, yes. >> Mary Frost, yes. Edfield, yes. >> Mike McDonald, yes. Pearson, >> yes. That is approved. Okay. Item number four, some the cemetery lawn agreement proposed modification for um for service which is a this is a month a $100 increase uh per month. Um >> I know we did >> Why are we doing that? >> Well, I'll explain. We we did some major repair work at the cemetery. Okay, Pauline, we had that all that erosion. >> So, what they before um well, let me read all this. Our contractor requested $100 per month increase, which is $25 per week. Okay. I reached out and
016and called him and he gave me a very good explanation. Okay. And uh I reached out and it's only for the mowing season because I told him that's not for the whole year. And he said, "Well, yes, he would agree that would it be just for half the year because the rest of the time he's snow plowing." So anyways, um um we could approve the $100 increase for September and October and November if necessary, but I doubt whether we'll be mowing in that time. The reason he says that uh he needs the extra money is because that that used to be just a gentle swale there and they could run the the zeroturn mowers right through there. Now it is all gravel built up if I don't know if you saw the pictures but it's
017all built up so they have to get off the machines with the weed whackers and go up and down around all of where the stone is now because otherwise the weeds grow up. So they have to cut them all out of there. So that's the reasoning. I understand that and I did call him and I did give him my concerns and he at first had it for the whole year but I said no we only half the year and when you break it down it is $25 per cut. I don't have a a real problem with that. I do understand every time you get off the machine it's more labor, you know, but um I >> think we all know that. >> Yeah. But and we we did add the extra work for him. It's
018not like it was there. Now he's asking for more money. It's that we did add the extra work. So it's up to the board what their pleasure is. >> We have a contract, right? >> Yes. So, we're going to amend the contract because >> Well, we actually did amend the contract because we added more stuff there that he has to go around now. And >> but shouldn't he have contacted us first? >> Well, he did he sent me >> He sent us a bill. >> Yeah, he sent us a bill and I called him. So, that's like contacting us. Yeah. Okay. >> I mean, >> um and I think >> So, is this his renewal of contract? >> No, >> this is just for the next few months. And when is our contract up? >>
019March 31st. >> So we will be out for bids March 31st. So we're talking >> two two cuts on $100 probably. And so then in March we can address this. >> I would like it to be specific to what months we're going to actually increase it $100 if we go down that road. Otherwise, it's going to continue over. Well, I would say let's uh uh September and October, two months. November, I don't think, you know, by November it's all leaves anyhow. I mean, I don't think there's nothing growing. >> We're almost done. Why would we pay extra for the next couple months? I don't understand. >> And I understand he's asking for August. August there wasn't really any grass. It wasn't even >> just planted the seed. >> I'm not sure. Well, there we will
020be getting into the we will get into the rainy season shortly and I think we will have some a little bit of growth, but >> well, this being a person who mows her own lawn, >> yeah, >> there's not much going this time of year. And you don't cut it short either this time of year because it's just too short. And you're what you're doing is you're ruining the lawn. So >> I mean I understand like giving a little bit extra. We just make a motion to approve the $25 per week for the rest of the cuts until it's done. >> Well, that's what we're saying September and October and then that's it. >> But it's as >> No, we have a different type of agreement which I'm probably going to change come for the
021April. He's he does it's an agreement. He gets a every month for 12 months. It's not per cut. >> So, he gets that set amount. So, we could do 25 per mole, but it's still going to be September and October because it's a it's a set amount. >> I can't imag >> Well, he does. um you know he does cut and up until that time and then he then then it's then it's a fall cleanup. So like I said um but right now I don't have a problem with it for two more months and then in March we're going out to bid anyhow. And um >> so you're saying for September and October and then Thursdays um the same service day. >> Well that we have it in the contract that it's Thursdays. which he
022hasn't been. >> See, Bruce, >> I want to keep the same. >> Bruce, I want to get make sure we understand. We keep using the term mowing. He's not This increase is not for mowing. It's for weed whipping. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, if he goes out and he mows one time, he's weed whipping one time. If he mows five times, he whip weed whipping five. It's not you got to do it mowing this time. We're not changing the mowing agreement. We're just adding because he's having to weed whip around all those rocks and >> that's basically it. But then you can look at it the other way. He doesn't have to cut through the swailes now because there's gravel there. So I mean so we're giving them less to cut with >> less to
023cut with the colarium too. >> See that's that's the thing. It's less to cut. You're mowing with a with a zero turn. You're flying with that thing. And when you're weed whipping you're kind of labor intensive and >> slow and >> I agree. And the the thing that I'm hinging on is that in March there's a new contract and we have gone out to bid in the past and he's still been the cheapest >> during co we didn't get very many resour but I don't know if he's going to bid this time because he is talking about retiring. >> Okay. >> So can I ask a question on invoice? Did he send this in and is expecting to be paid for these extra items beyond the monthly 1150? Is that >> So that's the invoice
024and we asked him to do um how can I say >> item itemiz >> so added on the $100 and we need that's where August we should pay. There wasn't really any grass to cut. They just planted it. >> So >> we're not going to pay him for August but we're going to pay him for September. and October. >> So the 1150 is for the cemetery. That's a set amount. And then the other items are the other areas that he cuts grass here at the township and the auxiliary building. So the 1150 is for the cemetery. I I'd make a motion to $25 per turning that's done forward until we don't know if it's two times or eight. I'll I'll second I'll second that. I >> I'll third it. I like that. >> He if
025he wants to open the contract with this, then we'll say fine. We'll pay you 25 bucks for every time you not $100 >> and it's the supervisor's problem Thursdays as the selected date. He's asked to change that to Tuesday. Keep it as >> a different day. >> Yeah. We want Thursday, >> right? Before the weekend. You don't want the You want That's when most people visit the cemetery. >> Same date. Same day. >> Okay. >> I think >> on Thursdays. Okay. So, that's a motion. That's your motion. Do we have a second on that? >> Mike has a second on that. Okay. Okay. Is there any further uh discussion on it? Not hearing any. Uh roll call, please. >> Mary Frost, >> yes. >> Jenny Eller, >> yes. >> Ed Brefield, >> yes. >> Karen
026Dav, yes. Mike McDonald, >> yes. >> Bennett, yes. Supervisor Pearson, >> yes. >> Okay, that is approved. Uh now we're on item number five. Okay, OPC. This is something we do every year. has been very successful. Um, this is something that we give back to our seniors so that they can go down to Rochester OPC. I receive many thanks from all of the seniors. It's a great community service, I think, instead of us um having to reinvent the wheel. We have a place down there that we contract with and they accept our seniors and they have a lot of friends down there now. So, um, what I'm looking for is a motion to approve the expenditure of $8,000 from our community projects and the letter for participation in the OPC program 202526. >> I'd like
027to make a small change on the letter though, and it would be the second dot where it says November 1st, it should read November 10th through December 10th. And then also the following line, it should read um November 10th where it says 19. >> Yeah. >> Or >> on the second dot, one, two, three lines in November 10th instead of November 1st. And then the next line would be the fourth line, November 10th instead of November 1st. >> Okay. Do we have that corrected? >> Okay. So, do we have a motion? And now, did we get a second on that? >> I've got a question. >> Oh, we don't have a motion. got a question. Okay. So, we pay the $8,000 to the OPC. >> No, we don't. >> We reimburse the seniors that that
028are approved up to 8,000 that that pay who Yes. Go ahead. >> Okay. So, we're not >> not giving any money. We're just reimbursing. So, if 10 people go, we're not paying that much reimburse. >> They go down and register and pay their fee. Then they bring back the receipt and we pay half of it up to the 8,00 we've been doing it for a long time. Yeah. >> Well, it depends upon how many people because you can't go over 8,000. So, it's not a guarantee of 50% which is in this letter. So, it just depends how how big the response is, how much they're going to get back. >> That is a great thing because they can even ride the >> We've used it before. We've used it before and it's being reimbursed and
029everything was fair. >> We've been doing this for years now. >> Years and years. >> For years and I don't use it. >> Well, I didn't realize I was a senior until just this year. I could have been going, you know, >> offended when you sent me that letter. >> I'll make the motion. >> Let's put in there that some of our people are offended. Motion to approve the expenditure of $8,000 from community projects and the letter as revised for participation in the OPC program year 2025 2026. >> Second. >> Here we have a motion and we have a second further discussion. >> That hearing any we have roll call on that please. >> Mary Frost. >> Yes. >> And Braville. >> Yes. >> Karen Gel. >> Yes. >> Jenny Eller. Yes. Mike McDonald. Yes.
030Yes. Supervisor Pearson. >> Yes. That passes. Okay. We'll move on to public forum now. Anybody in the public would like to speak? >> Anybody in the public? >> I I'll ask one more time. Anybody in the public would like to speak, uh, please come forward. Okay. Nobody. Uh, Addison Township Board. Uh, do you have any reports? Anybody? >> I don't have a report, but I'd like to know. You said that there was a young girl from Oxford for service hours and she was going to clean up the place. >> She was doing the weeding out the front, but I went out and did it. >> I was going to say I don't think she did it. >> Well, no. I I went out and I trimmed all the bushes and I took all the weeds
031out and >> Oh, that's Well, you didn't take all the weeds out, but Okay. >> Well, but I'm coming back. >> I didn't see her. She was here. Yeah, she was here >> one day at least. >> What I'm saying is I don't think she did as much as she should have. And I don't think she knew what she was doing either. >> No, she was I I talked to her. She was out there picking the weeds a little bit. Um so anyways, I I brought a weed whip in and I did do a lot. I got rid of the vines that were all over the township and I >> But next year I will bring some mulch in and I >> Okay, >> I'm bringing some I talked to my assistant here and we'll
032bring our hedge cutters in. But we didn't want to do it now in the heat when it was 90° cuz that's not good. Got to do it in the cooler weather. So anyways, >> so we're we're aware of we don't look so pretty anymore. >> Well, but the tulips are >> the tulips are in there. They will come up next year >> and I'll add I'll add some more. >> Okay. Just so you know that >> it'll be a surprise. >> Okay. So Okay. Any >> there's still more work needs to be done. I I got that little machine that puts a tulips. Yes, there's weeds out there right now. >> Those will be going. >> I'd like to be able to walk into our township and have it look pretty and nice and people
033say, "Oh, isn't this a nice place to be?" >> Isn't it? >> No, not right now. >> Is that a community serve opportunity? >> Yes, >> it was. And I don't think the lady the girl who that she would do it. I don't think >> Sounds like Mary would do a good job. >> No, she uh was a high school girl. I think she was just doing her community time, but I did talk to her and I >> Okay. >> I said I'll I'll I have some machinery that's easier to do it than that. So, uh legal reports, communication, anybody else first of all on the >> nobody else. >> You have any more communications? >> Yes, we received one from about 50 residents. Uh them on the lake. They are calling out the concerns
034for short-term rentals and uh if we proceed, they want strict regulations for short-term rental. Um it is quite lengthy and it will be available at the clerk's office. >> I'd like to say that >> I'd like to say Huh. It's not my turn. Okay. >> No, go right ahead. >> Put me in my place. >> No, go right ahead. >> I don't want to get in trouble because it's not on the agenda. if we're going to have a discussion about short-term rental. >> So, do I have to add do I have to ask to have it on the next agenda then? >> Well, I'm gonna I'll I'll address it real quickly in the supervisor's report. Okay. >> Real quickly, >> but can I talk? >> No. >> You if if you're on an Addison Township
035board and you have >> It's probably best if I don't. >> Okay. Okay. Anybody else? Nobody. Legal communications. You read it. So, we're on the supervisor's report now. Okay. Um, I only have a few things here. Uh, the SEMCOG was one of the things. I know they're putting grants out, so I'll help you with that. I'll get a hold of, uh, Chris Bernett and find out what application we have to fill out and I and we can get moving on that. Maybe there's a good possibility we could that one we might be able to get. Um, I I did bring up the Airbnb thing. Uh, the people some of the people on the lake. I It's a controversial thing because there are some people that want it, some people don't. The state is trying to
036address it. It just hasn't got any legs yet at the state level. I don't know what's going on. We did talk about it at the supervisor's meeting today. Um there are other townships who have enacted the rules um there. Our special thing on Lakeville Lake is we're on septics. And when you bring a lot of people in, the septics are not geared. The rest of them have sewers systems, so they can accommodate however many people. Uh but some, and I'll just bring up, some have regulations on where you can park. Some have regulations that you're that you can't even use the boat on the lake. You're allowed to rent the Airbnb, but not have a boat on the lake. uh some have the amount of people that are allowed in any one of the Airbnbs.
037So there every one of the townships had a different regulation between uh West Bloomfield and Waterford and Lake Oran. And so there is a whole gamut. So we know that the state is trying to work on some. It just doesn't look like it's going anywhere. So anyways, those people are concerned that might be something that what they're looking for is a minimum of a one month rental because they don't want week after week of people and they're thinking that if it was one month length then the people would be there for a while. Um but once again no parking because around the lake I don't know where people would park if you have a big a bunch of guests come. I that's something we really have to look at. So anyways, that's all I'm going
038to say about that. Um the uh the other thing um the employees have um come and asked um ex they explained to me that um a lot of the uh townships around us are all closed on Friday and they want to know if if they put in a longer day during the week, 10-hour days, four days a week. Um, Rose Township is closed. Oxford Township's closed. Dryen Township's closed. Holly Township's closed. Meet Moora Township closed. Bruce Township next to us. Add Township is closed, too. All these places are closed on Friday. And I guess they just voted to keep Oxford Township closed. They tried it as an experiment for the summer and they liked it. So, they want to stay closed. So, I told them I would look into it, but it has to be
039unanimous of all the employees. Okay. So, as of right now, um, we're looking into that. I'll bring it back to you and we can decide if that's something. Our building department is closed on Friday anyhow. It always it has been because we don't have any inspectors or anything on Fridays. They don't work on Fridays here. So, um, I know it would be a little bit uh difficult uh during election time, but it is anyhow. So they would have to have a contingency of a little bit of overtime on the election time and the treasurer's office. Uh that would affect um a couple days just before the actual date, you know, the 15. Yeah. So, >> um, so but there's always been money on overtime for that because they always have used overtime in the treasur's
040office and in the elections, but it's very minimal, I think. So, um, if they want to do that, I have no objections to it, but if it we could try it. If it doesn't work out, then we can tell them it didn't work out. But if they're happy with it and it does work out, I have no problem with it. But I'm just bringing that to the board's attention that we'll look into we'll look into it. I don't want to do it before the election comes up this November, but it might be enacted after that. >> That's good because we'll be doing a lot of amendments. >> Well, that's what I'm saying is that I I explained to him that I'm not going to try that before the November election because that just is too
041much to deal with. But if you look at this year, Christmas is Wednesday or Christmas Eve is Wednesday, Christmas is Thursday, and if they didn't have the Friday, then they'd have the th the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday off. And the same thing for New Year's. And they said that it wouldn't it's not going to be any different. It wouldn't cost anymore because uh the hours that they put in would uh go for the extra two hours they work on the other. It would even out because there's um um there's a two Monday holidays I believe. >> I think we're thinking about doing a bank similar to the fire department. So if an employee wants to take a full 10 hours out of that bank for a holiday. >> Right. But >> so there'll be
042a set of a set amount, >> right? >> So the township isn't paying more. It'll be >> correct. But what >> on the agenda? So I'll >> Oh, yeah. But that's what that's how it works. That they explained how it works out. It works out that there's two holidays and they would then be able to use that when they took their time off, they would use that those hours to compensate for the time that they took off for the 10-hour day. Okay. if you know because they do get eight hours of holiday pay on Columbus Day and Martin Luther King Day. I think there's a >> there's quite a few people quite a few. >> Yeah. Again, is that on the agenda? >> Well, but I'm explaining in the supervisor's report. Okay. >> You can
043we Okay. Okay. Anyways, I'm just bringing that and I will bring more back to you after that. But all of the townships around us >> are now >> uh closed on Mondays. >> So Fridays >> on Fridays rather. We could close Monday, too. But no, that's another subject. >> Mike wants Monday and Friday. >> We have to be open enough time that people can come in. >> Well, this gives them more time because we would open up earlier in the morning for the contractors and we would stay later at night for the people who get off work. they could run in here instead of running in the door here at uh five minutes to five and then handing us $10,000 of cash and saying I'm paying then we have to stay on overtime to handle
044you know this way we would be here an extra half hour. So anyways okay um I guess uh last thing I would look for is an adjournment. A motion >> I'll make that motion to adjurnn. And we have support. I thought everybody wanted to stay. And we have support. All those um we'll call the meeting closed at uh >> 637. >> 6:37. And uh everybody in favor of the adjournment say I. I. >> Anybody say nay? No nays. We are adjourned. Next meeting October 20th.