001Stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Giving me a good I will do a roll call. Moore >> here. >> Kennedy >> here. >> Pelich is absent, excused. Swack here. Hawkins late. Um, for the record, clerk Lorie Zelnak is in attendance. Judy Bur is absent, excused. >> Okay, we'll move on to the minutes of the August 11th meeting. We have a uh motion to approve the minutes. Please make a motion to approve the committee. >> I will second that motion. >> All in favor, please. >> I oppose. Hearing none. Motion carries. Go on to the agenda approval for this evening. >> No changes. Although
002we were making a last minute still upstairs. >> That's fine. They're officially here. So, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda as proposed. I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I oppose. Hearing none. Motion is carried. We're going to uh not do treasures report and accounts payable at this point in time. We need >> table. We're table it till later. >> So, we're going to go right on to new business. >> Oh, public comment. >> I'm sorry. Is there any public comment at this point? >> Yes. Dave, >> could you stand up and say your name, please? >> Um, I'm Dave and I've been here a long time for um, something just hit me the other day. Uh it's been 20 years since uh the SWAT team came to town and I called it
003terrorized us. I think they're trying to help us uh solve our sewage problem. >> Who they excuse me? Who >> the health Oakland County Health Department? >> Yeah. >> Oh, >> I tested the 10 catch bases. But one of them had sewage in them. Mine mine in the corner building had at least at 7 41 whatever. Sam's house had 1 million 250,000. They came back and tested two different times. went in the radio season what um they gave us a warning but we're not listening. >> Did are you saying this just happened recently? >> What happened recently >> that they did this? This isn't recent is it? >> When did they come and do the test then? Did you mention when they did those tests? >> Yeah. Oh, 20 years ago. So that would be
004in 2006 at least. Mine was done on January 28th, 2005. They did five in 2005 and 2006. They were around here for a while. You wouldn't see them, but they're there. Um they're back doing something a little bit different now. There's two houses right at Rochester Road. They are being forced to put raised septics in. That's I haven't got that confirmed by the health department yet, but I'm pretty sure that's what's going on. Whenever you sell a house now, if you don't meet the the the requirements, >> are you talking on the west side of Forest Street? >> Yes. >> The guy's house burned down. >> Yeah. >> Yes. I know. I I know. I approved both those tickets for that. >> They're putting them in. >> Yes. >> Um um Well, that's that's good.
005But here's another problem that we didn't solve on this side. The post office is you know what kind of trouble we have down there trying to get it to work itself out. There's no hope for those houses unless we can solve them. And my solution is for this side of the street and that side of the street. Get rid of the alleys. You don't need them. This one isn't even a functioning legal. It isn't. But you got permission. That one barely is cuz you can go through it. But that property was taken from the people on this side, including the post office. So I think we should give it back to them and let them put some subjects in. I know that there's sand, but that post office would not be there. They searched hard
006and they found some. But on the other side of the alley, everybody has sand. It's all raised up and they they put rage septics in um to survive. You can't sur survive it on this side. It's just not going to happen. I'm afraid they're going to come in. They gave us 20 years. We've done nothing. They're going to come in and start condemning it. >> Well, we did do a sewer study. We spent $60,000 on it. We brought it to the public to have them vote on it. >> Yes, we did. >> And it was voted down. >> Yeah. Well, I'm coming up with another solution, >> okay? >> And that is let's give the alley back to those people so they can expand their septics. We're not we don't need that for anything. There's
007no purpose for it. And the same one here. Um I'm not even going to get into what went on because it's it's just uh so Dave, I just want to stop you there. As per Robert's rule of order, when you are doing public comment, you get three minutes to make public comment. Your three minutes have passed. If you want to be put on next month's agenda, you can bring all of this forward to someone at the office to myself or to Judy or what? >> You're you're you've gone over your you've passed your three minutes for public comment >> and you can't give me anymore. >> I cannot give you anymore. You can >> um >> No, >> I have Robert's rule of order upstairs if you want me to pull it. But just as
008a as a courtesy to all of our guests and all of our audience members, it's just fair to everyone that if you if this is going to become a protracted presentation that I would appreciate it if you could maybe present this to the planning commission or you know put something in some kind of a cogent printed form where we could have more information for the trustees to study it and look at it and then bring it to the next meeting. >> Okay. On the agenda. >> Okay. You got >> for next meeting. >> You want >> Well, if you're on the agenda, you get more than three minutes because then you would be a line item on new business. >> But it's it's something that should be addressed. We don't do it, we're going to
009lose one thing. >> Okay. You brought it attention. It's not like we're going to ignore it. >> Okay. Thank you. >> That was going on this agenda or the planning commission. >> So, that will go on October's agenda. It will be >> this agenda. Okay. >> Yeah. Is there any other public comment at this point in time hearing? None. Let's move on to the mill presentation. With us tonight uh is Brendan Still who is the uh entrepreneur in this venture and Tim Culvin from Oakland County from Ron Campbell couldn't be here this evening. So Tim works with him. Let me put my glasses on so I can read what I'm saying. So if if you would like to uh address us if there's you weren't here for that mill presentation. We don't need to go
010into it real deep. most of us know. I'm sorry a couple people are missing tonight but so far but uh what what Brandon does is get these small uh entrepreneurs together who want these small venue places to sell their wires >> and he gets that. He's done this with other communities with other mills and and barns or buildings or some old historic building and and prove that it was a viable thing for the community to have. With that comes a lot of help in in in uh uh getting grants and funding going forward. So, what we're looking at is kind of a a pilot program here for the mill. >> We we we can't use the inside of the building because I Tim Hollis is supposed to walk through it with me. He hasn't done
011it yet. >> Plus, we need a structural engineer >> and the one he was going to put me in touch with is now gone. So, unfortunately, so we I'll be looking for a structural engineer. That's going to cost us a little bit of coin. But there is a little grant bit of grant money out there that I have to apply for before the 30th of this month. So, if you would, Brandon, if you would uh like to talk a little bit about uh >> what we were discussing earlier uh this last month or make sure everybody can see me. I guess I don't know if I'm in the camera. >> That's all right. >> So, for everybody who wasn't here, my name is Brandon Still. I live over in Clarkston. Moved there about 10 years
012ago with two little kids, a third one on the way. Uh, and in 2018, I launched my first co-working space. Um, if you're not familiar with co-working, it's basically shared space for small business owners, entrepreneurs, people who could work at home, but because of kids and dogs and dishes and what have you, they don't want to. Um, uh, for four years after that, I owned and operated six co-working spaces, all in small towns, all in a variety of historic structures. Um at that point I realized I was not good at managing six of these places. Um there was over well over 100 people who all needed attention. Uh so I started consulting on co-working spaces instead working with nonprofits, communities, chambers of commerce, main street programs uh to launch small town co-working. And I saw
013a need for uh a new version of it which instead of just catering to people working on their laptops, we wanted to work with aspiring brick and mortar businesses, uh people at coffee bean roasters, bakers, health and wellness people. Uh you see people who are making sourdough bread at home, but where do they sell it? And you you have farmers markets and makers market. So this is kind of a next step version. It's a a place that aspiring brickandmortar business owners and entrepreneurs can come test out their business model uh in a physical structure. Um and the idea is that everybody works together. Everybody lifts them each other up. You have shared audiences. You have shared marketing. You have shared uh expenses with the space. Uh and I like to call them people based businesses.
014Um so this isn't manufacturing, this isn't industrial. This is people who are working face to face with with their customers uh and with the community. Uh and it becomes a third place. It becomes a place. It becomes a place of music and art and events all working together not only to improve the entrepreneurial ecosystems of the people in that building but the effects really go well beyond uh hopefully into the business district into the residential district um lifting up hopefully the entire community. And what we're proposing, I think, here is pretty unique in that it's really a threepart partnership. Um, we're not proposing that we would take ownership of the building, would remain with the city. Um, and there's a lot of good advantages to that um because it keeps us eligible for certain grants
015um which the the county can help with. So, you know, the third part of the partnership here, uh, and then what I've been told in in talks with Ron and my experience with other places is that, you know, people will put in the work for these grants. They'll apply and they'll be told, well, we don't see the demand. We don't see the need. Um, so that's where I come in is demonstrating from the ground up that we can drive meaningful business and attendance and use of this building and just kind of keep going around. growing together. That's the real quick version and I don't know like to contribute there. >> Sure. And so obviously um I work with Ron Campbell. Um he's an architect. I am not uh but I work you know we all
016work in economic development at the county and I'm representative of main street county and we've in the past offered up or have provided uh a list of assistance for the build for the preservation of the mill which is a significant and and um you know historic asset here. We recognize the heritage of it. Um, we think that there's potential obviously as we've seen in other communities for the renovation and reuse of the space. We think this is a good opportunity that Brandon's offering up right now in that it would be a a lowcost entry into showing uh, you know, a demonstration of use for the space so that it's not going to continue to sit um with underutilized. Yeah. And over time it would you can build through the use to expand you know the
017the repairs and the uh amenities and the things that would be needed. I know um Ron was integral on helping you with um having the roof secured and and some other work done and there are opportunities for grants um for historic preservation projects as such as that and just as being a member of Main Street Open County which you are uh you're one of our um partner level communities. Yes. that we have money that we set aside for all of our communities every year to take on various projects. It's very open-ended in how they use it, but we do have $1,500 that we would be able to uh you know, this is just given as part of our service. So, I know that's not a lot, but that could help with preparing the space and,
018you know, doing something along those lines. All of that being said, Oakland County is here to assist. We will continue to assist uh both architecturally and with the, you know, the economic part of it. We see the value of the continued, you know, restoration and use of the mill. Uh and hopefully this is an opportunity that will spur further development. Is it possible that Oakland County could guide us to somebody who could look at the structure? Um, I spoke with our building inspector and you know, he's accustomed to modern code and modern buildings and he just said, you know, a lot of the way that that's built, he didn't feel completely comfortable being able to give us a COA on that. And so, what I'm wondering is if you if you guys might know somebody
019that could guide us into helping inspect that building. Yeah, Ron Campbell will have those resources. I can talk to him. >> Okay. I can >> I know he we have um we have a list of uh you know various contractors that we recommend and a structural engineer it sounds like would be what you need in this case. I believe we definitely could refer one to you. >> Right. I can I can speak with Ron this week too. >> That's great. Thank you. >> Any questions? >> As a landlord, I would ask the question of who manages the building once it's up and running. >> Yeah. So, uh, a couple things. One, I would definitely have insurance for for me and then anybody who operates under me would be insured as well. Um, you would retain
020the ownership of the building. Um, but and we didn't really dive into a lot of, you know, I guess who cuts the grass. >> Yeah, I was going to say in in your current buildings or the current buildings that you've either consulted on or sold, you know, and some who manages those because it's such a collective. Is it the city that does it or >> so? I I think most of the uh aesthetic sort of thing, so like cutting the grass, managing, you know, the look of the building, that sort of thing would fall on me at that point. whereas, you know, the kind of general maintenance, structural repairs, that sort of thing. Um, they'd be the city responsibility, but but with that being said, kind of this is meant to be really a partnership.
021Um, >> and who who handles the rental side of it? I'm assuming it's a a rented space that maybe weekly, monthly, daily >> and yeah, so that that's my business model. Okay. Um, so managing, you know, the software tools, the calendar, and um, really what I I didn't know this was how this business was going to evolve, but managing that calendar and coordinating those, it's really a big part of it. Um, you know, if you have somebody who wants to do coffee, you partner them with maybe a yogurt class and sourdough bread and then maybe there's kids events. So then, you know, building all these connections between the right people to make it so it's a space where, you know, if you come for one thing, all of a sudden you're exposed to three other
022businesses you would have never met before. And so, uh, my role is recruiting those businesses, kind of selling them on, you know, coming to the space, renting it, and then helping them. It It's kind of an all ships on a rising tide sort of thing. It's meant to all work together a little bit. >> Neat. So I guess one other point that we did discuss too is because right now we don't have occupancy of the mill >> the current events that you would be standing do like outdoor events in the in the immediate until we can figure out what needs to happen to get indoor accessibility. >> I guess I was hoping being that the roof had gone on before that the structure was checked before that. >> I thought that was kind of a
023given but >> nobody has told me that. >> I guess I should I guess I'm wrong. Okay. I guess the assumption is wrong. >> I've been into the space. I'm not disillusioned as to where we're starting. Uh >> but you know, I think it's one of those things that without a reason to start diving into it, why would somebody dive into it? Um you know, so we'll we'll start with outdoor events um you know, and show the demand, show that people will attend and hopefully give a reason. Uh, and with the county's support, hopefully we can come up with creative ways to, you know, hire the right people to check it out and all together. >> We at least did get power there. So, that's a good thing. >> I know. Um, I discussed this
024with Ron. Um, so he was giving me the, you know, the lowdown. And I think the biggest hurdle is going to be the, uh, bathrooms. And so it would probably be some sort of scenario where there would be temporary, you know, quarter John type use until there could be the once you can have the occupancy of the space and you that' probably be one of the earliest things you'd want to do is >> we excuse we do have one toilet we can use. It's back in the parking lot >> by the trail. We we do have use of >> right adjacent to the truck, but it's just a capacity depending on how many people come, you may need to stand up. >> Sure. Yeah, >> that would be the only >> but we could use
025that for parking also back there. >> So, we get that and the the we have lack of we don't have a well for the mill. >> So, we're looking at probably going to have to have some kind of wash stand, you know, long put on the sidewalk when we have our strawberry festival and stuff like that. So, >> did they have did they have a water? >> They probably just had sanitizer. Oh, back in the day. know, but I asked about a well. He said we don't have one to but we do have water in the garage. We do have a well at the garage. >> Oh. >> So although that doesn't help us out take us piping over to the mill to put water at the >> right. That's >> that would be a
026bit of an expense right now. So >> well you'd also have to you'd be passing the polyad trail it looks like too. So >> Oh yeah. Yes. DNR would have to approve all of this. We can't go an edge on it without approved. So >> there's a lot of work to be done in that area. But to get by for this pilot program to see if this is viable, we could we'll probably something. >> Yeah. Make do. >> I'm confused. That guy worked in there all day. >> It probably feel well. >> It probably does, but I wouldn't I wouldn't assume that it worked or was good. >> I don't know. I I asked about it and nobody seems to know. >> More than likely it was inside. It's probably inside. It's probably a well
027point underneath a floor somewhere. >> That would be sad. It'd be nice if you could just repair that and get it going. >> It's possible. >> I don't know. I really like the idea though. Get that thing used. >> Yeah. >> I don't want it ripped down. >> It It's This is probably the best idea we've come up with to actually help to any kind of hope for restoring that little >> And I'll always ask the question. the polyanne committee is okay with this >> that I've told them every bit of this. They know everything that's going on. We're kind of working in concert with them. I always talk to almost every day. >> I asked that to be nice, but I know that they would like to see something happen. They don't, you know,
028the vision was there, but if it changes, visions change. So, I'm sure they would be thrilled to see anything. >> Linda would like that. >> Yeah. Actually, >> they're serving some kind of liquid to drink. >> Okay. >> Not alcohol. Actually, it was part of a board meeting and the board meeting went over there and we are we were investigating the middle as part of the trail >> also and so we'll be working in concert with them on this. >> Cool. >> Yeah, they'd be very happy to see some activity there. Nobody else has that right now. >> Uh, no. Uh, yeah. >> So, Brandon also does concerts, small venue concerts and stuff in the summer. Nobody has >> We actually had one and it was pretty successful. >> Yeah. considering >> it was one,
029but I still have stickers on stuff from it. So, >> it's cool. It's very cool. >> Yeah. Seriously, >> thank everybody here. It's been a brief effort in the county. >> It looks like >> I'd like to make a motion that the bill proceeded forward this opportunity. >> Absolutely. >> 100% second. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Well, you guys have your answer. We're going to move forward with this. So, if he was um tomorrow morning, we'll get a hold of our insurance company and see what we have to do on our side with that. >> Okay. >> And then I'll I'll I'll Yes. >> Did we get no favor on that? >> No. >> Okay. >> I haven't done that. I haven't gone here yet. >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. We're going to do
030a roll call cuz there's >> We should do a roll call. >> Doesn't hurt. >> Okay. So, we have a motion by Kennedy for the village of Leonard to proceed forward with the opportunity. Seconded by Swack. So, I'll do a roll call on that. Okay. >> Uh, let's see here. Moore, >> yes. >> Swack, >> yes. >> Hawkins, >> yes. >> Kennedy, >> yes. >> Thank you. So, we will proceed and get this uh going as as soon as possible. >> What would you like my next step to be? >> What do we need it to be? Um, well, we haven't really done any paperwork, which has been to me, but I assume we probably need some. Um, and then, uh, that insurance, I know we talked about that quite a bit. We'll have to,
031>> right, >> figure out exactly what you guys need on your side and then we'll fill that needs to talk to about the paperwork. >> Um, you know, I'm going to reach out to Michigan Municipal League first just because they do a lot of legal stuff. They're generally like I don't I think we don't need him at this point. >> I wouldn't want him rewriting the >> right. So um you know I just uh yeah we'll give them a call and then um we can just be in touch. We can just kind of communicate and >> um as I hear from them and see what they're asking, I'll just pass it on to you and we'll just keep moving the ball forward. Then >> we've got people who are ready to do events. >> Hey,
032sweet. >> Oh, nice. >> Summer's not done. >> Not done yet. No. >> And the county's fiscal year starts um the new fiscal year starts October 1st. >> And so at that point, we would have uh the funds available. Like I said, I mentioned we're 1500. We actually are currently have some, but it seems unlikely that we would be able to process it before October. >> I think you knew I was going to ask. So, can I get it twice? >> But just know that immediately on October 1st, you're eligible and you would be able to request that. We'll have an online form that we fill out. It's very simple, but um again, we'll we'll give all the appropriate information to you. >> Cool. Great. Okay, >> thanks Brandon. Appreciate it. Thank you. >> If
033you want to stick around for the rest of this boarding meeting, okay, if you like a lot on the agenda, >> go home and enjoy >> escape while you can. Go. That's okay. Great part of the meeting. Very nice. >> Thanks. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Take care. Appreciate the time, guys. like so. >> All right, take care. Bye-bye. Thanks. >> That's funny. I always said just bring >> Okay. So, we are circle back. >> We are going to circle back. Circle back to accounts payable. >> Uh treasures report. >> I'm sorry. Treasures report. >> There you go. >> We'll keep you honest today. It's all good. >> It's all good. >> All right. Treasures report. Treasure report. So, I know Judy and Judy is This is Judy's last treasures report.
034>> It is. It is. I will make a motion to approve Judy's last treasures report for the village of Leonard, August 2025. Please pay the bills. >> I'll support. >> Oh, that's that's not to pay the bills. Okay. >> Okay. I'll do a roll call. >> Yeah. >> Um, Swack, >> yes. >> Kennedy, >> yes. >> Hawkins, >> yes. >> Moore, >> yes. >> On to accounts payable. pay the bills in the amount of $21,786.82 for general, $1376 for major, $48 for local, and $1,6995 for recreation. >> Support roll call, please. >> Okay. Hawkins, >> yes. >> Kennedy, >> yes. >> Moore, >> yes. >> Swack, >> yes. that that 200 >> I was going to say >> that is a CD that we approved for for treasures. >> That's the only reason I said
035yes. Otherwise I was like hold on a second that number. We >> we switched the money from Oxford to >> She said to keep it safe. >> Get a better deal. >> Yeah. Keep it safe. Make sure that it's insured and >> that too get a better deal. >> So that's that kind of I swallowed hard. >> That's where she saw me run back. >> Okay. So, we're on to the uh next part of the agenda was number two, which is the official. We don't have a letter head. >> Um, >> we don't have a field. >> Oh, >> yep. We don't have anything. >> We don't have anything. So, >> well, actually, I'm going to have him work on that letter head. Sorry for interrupting. Go ahead. >> Where did that one come from?
036>> My son made it. Nice. >> So, um, >> look pretty good the way it is. >> So, um, this is Can Do you mind if I jump in? No, go ahead. >> Okay. I don't want to I don't want to steal your thunder, but um he really wanted to be here tonight to present on it, but unfortunately um he's in class right now, so I think he's in class. Who knows where he is. Anyway, so um what he came up with, and if you don't care for it, let me know. He can make changes. He just did it in one of his little programs. So the this is old um Roland Hall when it used to have the little tower on top. Um, the colors green and blue are because the state of Michigan
037flag has green and blue. And whenever you do a state seal, you're supposed to mirror the state colors on the flag with your seal. The number of stars that are around Roland Hall is that the um, are we the 17th state? I'm going to be terrible because I don't remember, but however many stars we are, that's the the state that we were when we made statehood. >> Um, >> 1837. >> Okay. And then um the little squiggly dew that looks like something that you would see in a medical thing. It's actually um Hermes is the god of commerce and um travel. And when Leonard was officially established all those years ago, we were a major center of commerce and travel because the the Well, you can just look at mine if you want. So, um,
038yeah. Here, I'm gonna tear it off my thing because I have it around. So, um, that's why I put there. And then two little strawberry blossoms on the side. >> Nice. >> Did he come up with all these like he >> he did research? Did >> he research all this stuff? >> He did. So, I also want a letterhead. So, I'm actually going to ask him to do a letterhead cuz, you know, um, >> but I do notice that all municipalities have this. I think that um >> Edison Township I think it's like rural charm or something like that. And so anyway, >> yeah. So if you guys like it, you guys can vote it in and we'll make it official and I'll put it on all our documents. >> And if you want to
039make changes, let me know and we'll make changes. >> I can't argue any changes because they all make sense. Everything okay makes sense >> the way it is, >> right? I really think that we are going to need a motion for them to adopt it in a roll call. >> Yes. >> I will make a motion to adopt the seal as presented. >> Have a roll call vote, please. >> Sure. Just one second. That Miss Hawkins is a second. >> Moore. >> Yes. >> Hawkins. >> Yes. >> Swag. Yes, >> Kennedy. >> Yes. >> Okay, next I'm going to do three and four together. Okay, >> you absolutely. This is your meeting. I know they interrupt you constantly, but it's your meeting. >> We're together working for this village. Too long, too many hours. We're
040confused of one another. >> So, there's two resolutions on board. One is for Don for his 27 years of service to the village. And the other one is for Judy for her 28 years. >> 29 >> years now to the village. >> Do you want anybody to read these? >> You want me to read? >> Do you guys need to? Basically, the resolution recognizes Don Irwin for 27 years of dedicated service to the village of Leonard. uh honorably, diligently served the village, faithfully, expertly performed his duties, leadership, hard work, dedication, instrumental in maintaining and improving the vital infrastructure and public services. Wish to express its prof we wish to express our profound gratitude and appreciation for his exceptional service. Uh and the same for Judy. Uh faithfully served the village for 29 years. uh gone
041above and beyond in responsibilities of treasure by also managing administrative duties, ensuring continuity, transparency, effective functioning of village operations. Um managing the building department, providing oversight, essential planning for the permitting, zoning, she's basically run the village in its own way. Um deep knowledge, tireless commitment. Uh we Judy has earned the respect and gratitude of village members, staff, residents, and colleagues through her many years. That's the gist of both of those. Do you need a motion? >> Yes. Motion that we approve both of these resolutions for us. I'd like to make a motion to approve the resolutions to recognize both Don Nland and Judy Bur. >> Got it. >> All in favor? >> And I need a roll call on that actually because it's a resolution so we we do them. Yep. >> A roll call,
042please. >> Mhm. Moore. >> Yes. >> Swag. >> Yes. >> Kennedy? >> Yes. >> Hawkins? >> Yes. Oh my gosh. Okay, this brings us down to uh number five. It's our new auditor search. Okay, this is uh when Lori and I had our meeting, well, Judy and Lori and I had our meeting with state treasury on the 28th of last month. Uh we got d pretty hard on our audits. There was questions regarding it isn't so much that we're late on an audit is that we're almost always late for years on auditing and they did not understand why. And right now it's locked up a lot of funding. >> It a substantial amount of money is being held back from us which could go into engineering for our our large paving project could help us
043pay for that. >> That's the first money I've come up that was said you could use it for engineering. So, we really need to get this unlocked. Our auditor was on an extended sick leave and we couldn't get a hold of him. We couldn't get a hold of anybody. We tried and finally I started going over there and just seeing when the door was open and asking anybody in that in that professional building any seeing activity and I heard there's no activity. Very rarely. Uh, somebody did open the door for deliveries from UPS or something and that's all they saw, but there's generally nobody there. So, but I did have a reason to be in in Oxford one day and I did stop in and he was open. He was back at work. He is
044not a well man. I tell you, he had a hard time speaking with me. >> He's, you know, it's uh and I talked to Judy about that. She knew he wasn't well either. It's becoming a liability for us because it's hurting us with the state and you know other people are late too with with their audits and time but it's a not an always thing with us. It's an almost an always thing. We got to do something. So, I started looking around and I went to uh I went on a not board last uh January, March, somewhere in there. We we approved a new auditor for not >> and that auditor was already serving Addison Township. So, like their Addison Township turns they they're much bigger than us. They turn around their audit in two
045weeks. >> How we've been waiting what a year, two years. This one's almost a year. >> And what did he say to you when you asked him if best case scenario, he was like, uh, >> when I when I, you know, he was giving me a lot of program numbers and what he's going to do with it and he could have told me anything. I didn't know anything about it anyway, you know. So, if he's going to sandbag me, he can do it. I I wouldn't know. >> But he told me he had 120 hours left of of budget time he figured to work into. That takes us into October sometime. >> If he's working 40 hours. I was going to say if he's done >> why was he worked last week? >> I don't
046think he's working 40 hours a week. >> He said, "Oh, I'm going on vacation till the end of August." I just came back and sickly. >> It's really not fair to us to hold on to that. That's too much. It's not. >> The question I would have too is that $120 left for us on the budget. Is that the amount of work required left or is that what he has on the books left? And then also does he have other clients lined up ahead of us that we are going to get gapped? >> He told me he promised me that he would make us priority when he came back from vacation which was at the end of August that I haven't talked to him since. I'm going to wait for Judy. >> Understood. >> Now
047Judy knows Judy has known him for 28 years. So I asked her to call him to find out how much money we owe him at this point. What we're doing is preparing to take those files out and get a new order. I >> doesn't mean we're going to do it. >> Well, I mean, I 100% support that because I don't feel like he's really taking this very seriously >> and and the fear is what if he's sick again. I mean, he was not well. >> Well, >> so, you know, I and had trouble he couldn't hardly breathe talking to me. So, and I'm always I didn't approach the question. I don't do that to people, but >> you know, I just by the looks of him, he's he's not well. So, I don't expect him
048to be in business much longer anyway. So, we're even if we don't do it all this, which I don't want to do, but we should be prepared to do that so that it doesn't get locked up again and and we spend more time on this than necessary. So, that is where we're at. So, >> so 120 hours takes us into August or October. I mean, >> when I talked to him, it's Yeah. So, I figured >> three 40hour weeks. >> Yeah, they're 40hour weeks. Yeah, I would assume hopefully he works 40 hours on it. If he doesn't, it could take us till Christmas. >> I mean, being that we've been waiting a year, quite honestly, I would give him a week. If I don't see 40 hours, I pull. My thought was before he starts
049them because he's closed the books on 2023. So, he does two years at a time. >> So, he made his way through 2023. He had not started 2024. And my thought was >> before he starts them, let's yank them. >> Yeah. and get them to somebody because about $71,000 is being held up in Act 51 money right now. >> Wow. >> And that's money that we could be using towards engineering of the road. So instead, we're leveraging other money to make that work. And we really don't want to do that. >> No. And it's like I said, it's not fair to us to be >> No. And and we planned it, we projected it out, we budgeted it. And the problem is, you know, the money we budgeted, we don't have right now. So, >>
050and how long is it going to take to get the money after the audit's done? It's not going to be instant. >> I don't know. I know we're on the naughty list, though. >> You're talking about the funds that are locked up. >> Yeah. Let's say he finished right now. How long does it take? It could take months before that comes through. >> I don't have to right now. >> I didn't think to ask that when we talked to those people from Treasury, so I don't know. >> But that was uh >> I mean, I I I don't ever want to pull business. However, I don't feel properly supported. >> There there are municipalities that change auditors almost every year. >> I don't necessarily need to change all the time, but at the same time,
051I don't feel supported. I don't feel respected. >> It's not like >> reliability because we have such a small budget. We don't get a budget when we expect. >> Yeah. >> Right. Right. We need it. Yeah. So I think coming up with a plan to find a new auditor is perfectly within the realm of >> I think I like to me it's by next meeting. >> Absolutely. >> Either he's halfway done or we got somebody new in you know like I said I'm giving him a week. >> So we'll continue to prepare pull those files which will mean I'll have to get a cost from him of what the work he's done now >> and then and then when we're done with our second audit we'll let you know >> I guess the only do
052not pay that fast. Whoever we look at as the next auditor, do they have availability to get our files completed in the correct timeline? >> Yes. Well, if we pull them and then we wait 6 months, >> stage sent us a list of CPAs to go through, >> but we didn't. But the one here uh and the reason the reason not board went to this company is they were less expensive than what we were using and that's also part of the reason why Addison Township went to them because they were less expensive than the people they had previously. So then I guess that would be our question is >> cost of course but timing >> because the the recommendations they gave us were like deote and touch you know what I mean they're like they're
053huge like I don't see >> us bringing our work to deote I feel like if we could do this person um that you know two organizations say she is really solid works fast gets it done gets it done right as opposed to us taking it to one of the largest accounting firms in metro Detroit. So, um I I mean I you know you guys are the ones that get to decide if you want to authorize Bill to go ahead and pursue this, but I feel like you know he's making a great judgment call right now, you know, reaching out to her and >> I Yes, I did I did uh get the information uh from Addison Township and and uh I did uh email out to that company this this morning and got a uh
054return email Her name is Raina R A N A M E Mins E M M M O Ns she's the audit partner and managing director at PSLZ CPAs and uh after she gave me her phone number and asked me to call her after she emailed me back this afternoon. So I had a nice talk with her before I came down this evening. I think you'd like her. She's she's really a great girl. She she does small municipalities as well as larger ones. They they don't. And they said, "Well, I" She said, "I go down to like 300 people." I says, "Well, we're a little bit bigger than that. 380 or so." >> She says, "Great. I love working with small communities." And she'd be helpful with us going forward. Any advice she can give? You
055know, we're going to need advice because when Judy's gone, we're we now have an ad in the paper for a new treasurer again. Yeah. and and that person is not going to come in and just fly, you know, like like she's been here forever like Judy was. So, she's going to need a lot of help. She or he or >> Well, it's also nice to have a company that has a backup. So, if there is somebody that leaves on maternity, sick, vacation, car accident, whatever the case may be, somebody else backs them up. >> Come out here personally and and work with us. >> Get the thing going so we got some coffee for her when she gets here, >> you know. So I I I think you know >> like I said I >>
056I bet this list from the state but but this is somebody we know and she knows the state. I told her about our state meeting was the most driving part of this. >> She's in like I'm sold. >> I know, right? >> I don't really Yeah. You're not going to sell me on anything besides get the job done. So as long as she has time and we're not waiting 6 months. >> I asked her if they were taking on new clients. She said absolutely. >> There you go. So, she said it didn't seem to be a problem for her. Good. >> Okay. Like to make a motion to proceed or like to make a motion to allow President Mo to proceed with a search for a new auditor and potentially reach out to this company.
057>> I second. >> You're not going to get a fight from us. >> All right. Swack. >> Yes. >> Endedity. >> Yes. >> Moore. Yes. >> Hawkins. >> Yes. Okay. >> I might be a no vote on paying that bill though when it comes up. I'm just saying. >> I know. >> I might be too. >> All right. >> Okay. Park sign. I don't think you have the graphics. I have the graphics, but I don't think we made graphics for >> I didn't. We don't. >> Okay. >> I just gave you the bill. I'll do it. >> But if you want to see the picture, he has the picture to pass around. Our park sign is delaminating for the nature park. And we looked at a we're looking at a a new composite material sign
058that will weather better. And we had two options. One is a composite material which when they print over the top of it. And I said I didn't like that because it wouldn't it's still going to weather. and we're still going to have to freshen it up or do something with it. So, I want wanted one that would stay out in the weather year round and we didn't have to worry about it. >> Mhm. >> So, we came up with this raised letter sign. It's a little more expensive, but it's a double-sided sign, but the but the dye goes all the way through the lettering, so the fading won't it'll weather better over time. So, I've got So, this is a Yeah, run that out. Take a look at that. Now, that those both of those
059copies are in red. >> How big is that thing? >> Huh? >> How big is that thing? >> It looks huge. Let's see. >> Good lord. >> Well, it's hanging on the existing thing, right? >> Couple feet by uh couple feet. >> About the same size as the one that's out there. >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. So what we did though that's the colors are red and and but we got away from strawberry colors going into nature park is green so we went with a green. This is the green sign. That's the one that they're approved. >> Okay. >> That the park committee approved. >> Okay. >> We thought it uh >> we like that one. >> It does. The people in the picture makes it look huge. Just they're far away. >> I'm curious
060what that costs. >> What does it cost? $1,63358. >> We got to make a proposal. >> 3,600 what? >> 163358. >> Um although we should be tax exempt. So we should be able to knock 4170 off of that. >> Oh, right. And we're going to hang it ourselves. So that this little money there, they don't have to come out and put it up. We're just going to go get the sign and we'll put it up. >> Oh, that's the late uh >> I'd like to commotion not to exceed $1,600 for the replacement of the Leonard Nature Park Center. >> I'll second that. >> Okay. Can I have a roll call vote, please? >> Sure. Just one second. That was And then Swack was the second. Yep. Swag. >> Yes. Kennedy, >> yes. >> Hawkins, >>
061yes. >> Moore, >> yes. >> Okay. On to the last one of new business. It's new business, but it's old business, too, because this is about East Street. One of our trustees, who will not be named, advised me that the bus pickup and drop off point was changing from the parking lot to East Street and there was a big hole over there where the bus is called. >> Oh, this is very gnarly. >> And when I went over there, I looked, sure enough, there's a giant hole. It took every bit of material I had to put a patch in there. And I didn't I didn't even get half of it. >> This is recent. >> Yeah, I did that. I did that Labor Day night. >> Oh, my driveway. Yeah, Andrew and I were out
062there late one day night paving. >> Wow. >> Anyway, >> the material I use is the stuff I bought that I can keep in the garage. It comes in bags and and I bought this last spring when we needed it. And I didn't use all the what I had left over. I I used their kept one bag back for a hole by John's right off his driveway and I I needed more. I don't have enough. So, but but the good news is it's holding up. So, I'm happy about the bad news is when we were shoveling the dirt and crap out of that out of that big area, we were had to shovel all the old gravel and dirt out. Every time I got You have to have a clean edge. You have to have
063a hard edge to adhere to. And every time I got up to the edge of this giant pile, it it just broke down. >> Yeah. East Street's permanent. >> East Street is >> Is it East or is it Division? >> It's both. It's that whole big circle. >> Got it. Okay. it. We I can't I could go in there and and try to crack seal it, but it looked like a new road when I was done. It's so bad. >> Gotcha. >> The problem was is when I started hitting it with the shovel to see if we could adhere to it, cuz what we do is take a torch. >> Yeah. >> We heat that up and then we push and we heat the material up and push it back in. It gets a good
064seal. >> Gotcha. >> If not, we're it's not it's water permeable and it's just going to fall apart. That's that was the real bad news about that. When I saw that, I said, "Oh," I took a big note and said, "This is not good because the whole road looks the same." Now, this came up in 2017 when I talked to my predecessor about this. He said, "Back in 2017, I don't know if any who was on the council then, anybody here." >> Alex, >> I think I think I >> think it it stopped at it's way too expensive for us to do. I think we because we were going to tie it in with doing West East and West Elmwood. I think at the time when we looked at it, no one had considered adding
065East and Division Street to Elmwood project and then by that time it would have been its own separate project and we didn't have >> Yeah. >> extra funds for that. Makes >> sense if I remember correctly >> because the engineering is like usually two years out. So that makes sense. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. I put 450 lbs of material in there and it didn't I would have to put that much again and more, but it's a little it's like $20 per 50 lbs. It's a little expensive. I don't want to do it. So, what I've done now is I've got I've got that there. I'm just watching it to see how it holds up to this whether or not I'm going to put any more in there or not. The rest of it,
066we shoveled the gravel and dirt back in. It's holding up well. It's holding up very well to the bus traffic, but I'm out there almost every day looking at it in the morning after the buses come through. >> Yeah. If you look kind of where my driveway is, I see the the edge crumbling off now, too. >> Yes. And Alex did a lot of shoulder work on this street, but uh the problem is the pavement's not not appreciating it because >> So that's a new bus route then cuz they did not run through there before. the buses would go into the parking lot. >> You had >> a medium load of cars that were always parking. Even though it was pointed out to me that it's illegal because there's no stopping standing signs there, but
067no one's ever >> No, I didn't I didn't literate on my street when it comes to those signs. So, >> uh >> the but I think the heavier buses coming through now is actually kind of pushing the asphalt out and it's just continues cracking more. I think the lighter even more cars. >> Yeah, >> it didn't push as much, but now the bus is coming through. It's starting to >> They're going to my house up around dropping off in front of the school and out past the division. >> That's bizarre. >> It is bizarre. I wonder why. >> It seemed like they had more room in the parking lot over there. They So, what they're I think they're trying to do is have all the cars come in, go loop around all the way through
068the back of the parking lot and do drop off kids in the parking lot. That way they can process the kids out through there faster instead of having I don't know that's I can show you the map that they've provided to us. But that's >> also you're eventually going to get calls from angry residents about buses blocking driveways. >> Yes, I'm sure to pass on those buses are hauling. >> They do haul. Yeah. >> On divisions. >> Okay. Okay. >> They don't seem to care about that. E blocking the driveways. >> I have >> Wow. >> Those driveways are bus a bus apart. You know, like one could easily block two. >> I wouldn't like it. If you have an emergency and they're sitting there, >> you're not getting out. Yeah. >> You're going to
069hear me vent here for a second, but whether it's buses or parents, it doesn't matter. My driveway is blocked almost every day. >> Series. I'm not surprised. >> I asked Donnie if I could park in his spot. >> I've had to take the front bumper of my truck and put it up against almost someone's front fender and lay on the horn for them to even look at me to get out of my driveway. >> Oh, for goodness sake. >> Oh, it was it was not a very good >> friendly conversation I was having with myself. >> I don't blame you. >> Oh my. It's rude >> and and the comments I've received back is I didn't want someone doing that. I shouldn't have bought a house that closed the school. >> And I guess if
070you >> Okay. >> Yeah. I guess the same could be said if you don't want Yeah. >> No, it's it's upsetting because it doesn't help, right? >> Oh, when you hear that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> That is the bad news. I don't know what we're going to do about it because I'm going to tell you it's going to be more expensive than it was in 2017. That's for sure. >> Oh, yeah. Um, >> but >> I'm going to have to do something. I'm going to start looking at something to do here going forward because we're going to need something and probably sooner than later. >> Probably much sooner than later. >> I keep telling you turn it into dirt. Like you just have to grade it. >> Yeah, >> we've got
071a grater, right? >> Yeah. Just have to grade it. Yeah. >> Every day >> with your grater. >> Did tar and chip and it held up. No, our beta did tar chip >> and it huh? I don't know what that is. >> Tarbon chip is where they uh put down a layer of gravel and then they put down a layer of ashalt, cure it, and then put ashalt on top of it. So, it's kind of a mix between ashalt and gravel and it's right around the same price as maybe a little cheaper, but it's better because you can see it and it catch anything. >> Is that they do on 34? Like once you go past like the proven grounds cuz I know they did something. It didn't look like at least when I was
072watching work it did not look like a normal. >> No, I I would recognize it cuz that's where I live but I did see it when I >> Yeah, they have fair traffic going over. That's good. >> Okay, let's move on to old business now street. Let's move on to the next 20 4285 Forest Street update. Good news. Somebody cut the weeds. Cut the grass. >> I saw that. I was wondering if it was you. >> Wasn't me. >> I can't go under there. I've told we can't go on there. >> Okay, cool. >> Unless the lawyer knows we're going without their permission. >> That's fine. >> So, I don't know who came and did it. All I know is it's done. >> I actually was going to Yeah, I was going to snap I
073did snap a photo of it and wanted to let them know that their marketing of the property is not very good. >> Right. So, that's all I have on that. Good >> purchase of the road greater update. I'm sorry. I've texted, I've called, I'm not getting an answer. When Judy comes back tomorrow, she knows another person that works up there that we can call and I can get a hold of them tomorrow. So, I'm sorry I don't have that tonight, but I'm really only going by the two months we got in August. So, we're looking in October for that. I I don't hold on any hope for that. Okay. The next is the DPW update. Don is is uh now that Don is officially gone has retired from service to the village. Um we need
074somebody to get in there and and do more of the work than what I'm doing. So I I asked my son about it. I've only asked him about that. This this decision is totally up to him. Um, his only problem is he he's not adequate at the truck yet and he's a little worried about plowing snow in the winter. >> Fair enough. >> But because he's not done it, he's done like parking lots and stuff with a pickup truck, but this is a little bit different than that. So what we can do now if the council is not opposed to it is moving him up in a temporary position as supervisor at this point in time. According to the lawyer legally we still have to put an ad in the paper and see if somebody
075wants to hire him as a supervisor. Fair enough. >> We call him a supervisor because he's allowed to spend money for the DPW if he needs to. If he needs material or something, he's he's got he's got >> I believe the DPW supervisor can spend more money than I can. >> Is this um position local to Leonard only? Is it Leonard residents only? >> Yes. >> No. Oh, you mean that >> the position of supervisor? Is this another one where you have to be local? You have to be >> Leonard. It's hourly rated, right? And he only works by many He only gets paid by as many hours he puts in on DPW. >> But he doesn't you doesn't have to live in the village to >> It's not in the bylaws. There we go.
076Okay. So, I can't >> Got it. >> One other, >> it's been advantageous in the past. Absolutely. >> That's why we've done it, but I don't know that we're going to be able to do that or >> Yeah. >> One other concern I have with the plow truck is I think we need to find someone with a CDL for the plow truck because the GBWR is 41,000 lb. >> We're That truck's 25,000 lb. >> The weight of the truck is 25,000 lb. the,000 lbs under the that's 26 something I think for the for the >> that's GVWR gross vehicle weight rating that 26,0001 that 26,0001 is for the show first license so anything more than 26,000 you need CDL >> and you're talking when it's loaded >> what's that >> when it's loaded it has
077equipment on it >> it's the weight rating of the vehicle >> oh >> so I think we need to look into it >> just to make sure we're What does what does Andrew Moore do on a normal on a daily basis? >> What is his day job? >> Employee contractor. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> He does renovations, interiors. >> Okay. >> Um he he'll do decks and stuff in the summertime, but that's all he can get a hold of. But he he's doing interior renovations, >> bathrooms, kitchens. >> Yeah. Yeah. He's got a big one over in Mcome County right now. Take a few time. So, his job is normally flexible enough that he doesn't mind doing a snow job, you know, at the 2:00 in the morning. >> In the winter. >> Oh, this
078is true, too. Yeah. All right. Good. >> It's not. It's almost like that. He's got more work in the summer than in the winter. Unless Unless there's a lot of interior work out there. Generally, there isn't. People don't like to do interior work around holidays and stuff in the winter time anyway. They want their house ready. >> I love it. >> Really don't. I'm just kidding. I'm going to recuse myself from this. >> Is this um you said to appoint him temporary until u just to fill the position until we actually post like we're supposed to and go through the hiring process. He can put in a resume. >> Yes, we'll rectify it soon. And then he would go through the process like everybody else of a background check, you know, get all of our
079information that we have on a drug-free workplace, equal opportunity, all the same stuff we do for any other new hire, we would do for him and and run him through. >> Right now, we just need somebody because you can't handle the load by yourself and technically it's not really something you should be doing. >> Would free me up to do more of what I'm supposed to be doing rather than paying all my attention to what's going on. >> Rather than filling cracks and holes and stuff like that. Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, any issues? I will make a motion to uh allow Andrew Moore to be temporary supervisor um in the position until we fill it the proper way. Yeah. Officially >> roll call or no? >> Yeah, I because he gets paid. I suppose we'll
080do a roll call. Yeah. >> Call. >> Okay. Are you not going to vote? >> No, I don't think I should. >> I think you can. >> I don't think I I don't >> Okay. You don't want to? Okay, then I'm going to put that you abstain. >> Yeah, >> fair enough. And that's okay. Um, Swack, yes. Hawkins, >> yes. >> Kennedy, >> yes. >> Okay. I I don't uh have anything under the report. I nothing's coming to the village. >> CBDT report. >> We will have a public hearing next month to give back all of the money that they are wanting back, the expired old money that's um throwing off our our u metric. I think they want us at a 1.5 um performance and we're at 3.5. So, um, >> do we have
081a date for the meeting yet or? >> Um, >> do we just make it the same date? >> We're just going to do the public hearing with our regular meeting that's on the 13th. I think >> October 13th. >> I think it's October 13th is our next meeting. >> Yep. >> So, that's we'll have a public hearing just to to go through that. >> That's a bummer, but I don't think we have a choice. >> We do not. >> Okay. Ordinance enforcement. We did send a letter out to 115 West Elm Street. Uh he continues to use motorcycles in in the motorcycle track he's got in his yard. He's going to start enciring the penalty. >> It appears to be grassing up pretty well. >> So I I I haven't heard any noise. So I
082don't think there's anything going on over there. So he has uh said he received that letter just the other day. I think we got it last week. We got it back that he got it. So summer festival committee uh is is still on a holding pattern waiting uh for the the bank to clear out so that they can shut down their officially shut down their operations. Decorating committee in your packet is a decorating committee request but it says $850 is wrong. >> I counted 650. What this is for is for the fall decorations to delighting uh c uh the ceremony at Christmas time. This should finish out your birthday. When I got the text from uh >> Oh, >> yavvon this morning. >> Yeah. >> She asked for $1,200. >> Yeah. They don't need that.
083Pardon me. >> She's probably looking at other things that are on here then. I I do actually see 850 if the tree cannot be donated. >> Okay. >> Uh but we could probably wait on the that tree donation. Um most of the time, uh Royal Roofing does us the honor of supplying a tree, so I'm sure we'll request it again. >> There's also a few tree farms around here you can get for like 35 bucks. I'd be happy to go get one, >> especially if they're that cheap. I would personally sponsor it. So >> $850. >> No, not for the tree, for the whole event. Yeah. So this is >> No, this is this is for >> actually it we'll go with greens for the planters in November. Uh we switch out. We're trying to
084do it as minimal as possible. So they would just go to greens. That way they're ready for Christmas. That's 250 to fill all the pots. Uh the 200 is the tree just in case cuz we try to get the biggest tree. But assuming it wouldn't be donated, so we could probably hold off on that. And then an outhouse is 250 and then Santa's 150. So that takes us clear until December for decorating. So really 650 um would be the only thing I would say would be requested tonight. Not the full. >> Okay. >> Um like you said, we can we can take a look at trees and uh if Royal doesn't want to do it. So >> I have a motion to $650 to the decorator committee for all winter decorations and Christmas party. >>
085I will second that. >> I have a roll call vote, please. >> Mhm. Moore, >> yes. >> Uh Hawkins, >> yes. >> Swack, yes. >> Kennedy, >> yes. >> Okay. North Oakland Transportation Authority. I got to that meeting late this time around because I was at the meeting here prior to that. So, but I got in there at We have a trolley car that runs between Oxford and Lake Oran. It's the best use of it. It wouldn't be feasible out here. But I don't like it because it's always breaking down. It's 30 years old >> and our cargo is human beings. >> Yeah. But they're only between the two cities. So, I mean >> Yeah. But we're repairing it more than we're using it. >> So to me, being a mechanical guy all my life
086is yelling at me that I need restoration. I need more than just fix me. Fix me kind of thing. Somebody needs to go in there that knows what they're doing, tear that whole thing apart, get everything up to snuff because >> you can't put a dangerous vehicle on the road. >> No, there really should be two of them so that when one's out, it continues running. So what we're doing what they're doing is we're going to finish out the contract on this. We we made a deal with with the auction to do this and we're not going to renew it. So they're not kind of not happy. But it well if they want to put the money into it, you know, that's one thing, but they don't want to put the money into it. They
087want us to put the money or not to put the money into it. That would that could take a lot of money to restore that vehicle. >> Sure. >> That's all I had with that planning commission. Do we need a meeting? >> Well, we're doing ZDA, our zoning board of appeals is meeting technically not the planning commission even though all the people on the planning commission are the zoning board. >> But we do have information for the next meeting to or to have the next meeting. >> We do because we have the variance request. So that's why the zoning board is meeting. So we will be meeting on 1 2 3 September 18th um as regularly as already scheduled I guess. So September 18th 7:00 be here if you'd like to uh join us. Other
088than that we had anformational meeting the last time uh for our previous meeting. We had some information just kind of a refresher in some aspects more of a uh we don't go through ordinance changes or uh zoning changes and all these variance changes. We don't do that often. So we're not versed in how it happens. Um so we had our um assistant I can't I don't know what her title is. >> Oh consultant planner. >> Our consultant planner um come out and just run through the basics with us. Give us a presentation. she and you know gave us a electronic version of it so that we can just refresh our memory you know refresh ourselves on all this stuff because we do wear two hats that's not normal for every city and needed it so
089that's all we did at the last meeting that's it okay trail management council I spoke a little bit about this when I was talking about the mill that that working in concert with them uh they're very interested in what's going to happen with that mill. Um I had planned that's pretty that's about all really all I have on that. The paving there's more paving to do. We got 250 ton of uh gravel and still in in the parking lot that that I'm hoping uh they'll continue to use our truck and driver on to dump uh because that goes a long way for paying our dues to be part of the seat at the table. So all this helps out. So >> wow. Did the tractor ever get fixed >> from the last time they were
090loading up the gravel into the trucks? >> I didn't know anything happened to it. Nobody told anything said to me anything to me. >> Oh, okay. >> Did the John Deere tractor? >> Yeah. >> The Well, all right. I'll tell you the problem with the John Deere tractor is that the weight bucket, the counterbalance bucket in the back is too small for that big of a tractor. What we need to do is, and I'll look and see what it's going to cost, is we need a bigger weight bucket to make that tractor more stable. When you're trying to load a a dump or something truck, it when you get a full bucket too high up in the air, it becomes unstable. It's it's a little wonky. So, we generally don't do full buckets when we're
091loading. We do half buckets and stuff because that's all we can do. >> So, we're going to have to we're going to have to rectify that. We're going to keep using it for that kind of thing or for anything else like when we use the cage when we pick somebody up to do something as high in your high again the weight is ratio is different but still it's there and you have to be awfully careful. Okay, so Village Park, we talked about the sign in Village Park. Um the back filling and everything I did this summer really seems to be working out great. It's settling in real nice. It can hold up. We can cut it now. There are some grass growing through it and things. So, we we're we're able to the mower holds
092up to it. Uh and it and it dissipates the water quickly through there, which is what I wanted really. That's what I was after, the more dissipation of water because it stops us from going in there and doing any kind of work for weeks at a time. Okay, hold on. Tell Andy to put mow in that part, >> our property. Tell him to put mowing. >> I did talk. I took him out there and showed him he did. He didn't go through there. >> He goes around He goes around there and goes He's got to go between the telephone pole and your property to get into the park. >> I understand that. >> So, he comes around. So, if he's if he swung out too much, he didn't cut part of that grass, you know.
093I'm sorry about that. But it wasn't intentional. >> Well, here's what's going to happen. >> I And we talk I I got you. >> We're blocking it off. We're putting something up and it better not be taken down. Tell no one cares that. >> No, leave it alone. >> No, I can't stand out there and police it. If somebody comes along the trail and does something, I can't do anything about that. >> I understand that. And I don't believe it's the trail people doing it. >> Okay. >> Uh, you can take care of that easily. Pay us the money. We're done with it. >> I can't I'm still still stuck in engineering. I call them every week. I can't get it out of engineering. Well, >> I mean, I can't if I don't have >>
094responsible >> if I don't have all the legal stuff done. I'm I really would like to have this done. >> I would too. >> And I wanted to have it done a while ago. You know, I've wanted to have this done all summer and it's just >> Well, we're blocking it off. >> Is this the chunk? >> Yeah. >> I mean, it's your chunk, but it's our property. If anything happens, who's responsible? Us. >> So, we don't have it out of We I thought that was like kind of already done. >> It's not done yet. >> No. >> Oh, for crying out loud. >> No, we paid. We We were paid. We paid for it. We don't have the deliverables yet. I keep calling them. I said, "We don't have your deliverables." >> Who are
095we waiting on? >> And they Well, there's somebody else supposed to call me now, and they haven't called me yet. So, I got to do that again tomorrow. I call every week. >> What What are we waiting on, though? >> Them to get done with the legal ease for this for the property split, >> like the verbiage. >> And then it's got Yeah, the verbiage. And it's got to be reviewed >> and they got to review it. And then it's got to come to me. Then I got to send everything to John to draft the proposal. Then it'll come out here. Then Ashley's have to approve the proposal. We have to approve the proposal. We send it back to John and he'll send us the final proposal, the real one. >> Maybe next year. >>
096Oh my gosh. >> Yeah. I didn't realize how complicated it was. >> Okay. Anything out of community black ranch and nothing in Nope. >> Okay. So you want to >> this meeting at uh >> 8:21 >> well she's got a different >> I recognize I support. Yep. >> All in favor I I >> meeting is adjourned.