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Addison Township Regular Board Meeting: July 21st, 2025

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2025-07-23
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Oakland County, MI
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2026-06-29

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001uh July 21st at 6 o'clock and the meeting is being held at 1440 Rochester Road. Uh if we could all stand for the pledge, please. >> Uh our veteran >> to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Please keep standing. >> Stay standing. Dear Lord, we thank you for the opportunity to be in front of you and be your representatives for the township. We ask that you give us wisdom as we make those decisions. We ask your blessings on all the people of this uh audience today. We ask for your protection for the firefighters and the sheriff's department as they serve our community. We pray for our sick and those in need. These things we

002ask in your name. Amen. >> Amen. Thank you. >> Okay. Uh, we'll start with roll call, please. >> Yes. Mary Frost, >> here. >> Karen Dable here. Ed Breitfield here. >> Mike McDonald here. >> Bennett, present. Supervisor Pearson >> here. >> Okay, we're just listening. Linda. Okay. Any announcements or anything? Any department reports as usual available in my office? Um, petitions. Any petitions? >> No. >> Okay. Order of business. Approval of the agenda. >> So moved. >> Um, I'll second that. >> So we have a motion and we have a second. Any discussion by the board? >> Not hearing any. Could we have roll call on that, please? >> Karen Gel. Yes. >> Mary Frost. Yes. >> Ed Brefield. Mike McDonald. >> Yes. Senate. Yes. Supervisor Pearson. >> Yes. Consent agenda. >> We have a

003short one this month. The um consent agenda consists of the June 16th, 2025 minutes and the June invoices. >> I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. >> I'll second it. >> Any discussion? Not hearing any. Can we have roll call on that, please? >> Mary Frost. >> Yes. >> Edville. >> Yes. >> Karen D. Yes. Mike McDonald. >> Yes. >> Bennett, yes. Supervisor Pearson, >> yes. Okay, we're all set on that. Now, we'll move on to uh item number two, which is a public hearing and resolution for EST to establish a special assessment district um uh for the with the township improvement revolving funds for Peninsula Drive project and the SAD to include a private um uh public road. Uh the public hearing resolution is to establish the SAD, which is a special

004assessment district, requesting the township improvement revolving funds for Peninsula Drive project and an SAD to include a public road. The township received petitions signed by more than 50% of the record owners constituting more than 50% of the total frontage of the proposed SAD located within the township requesting an amount of $2,46.98 per parcel for each of the next 10 years to pay for the improvement and a 5% collection fee uh for the township. Proper notice of the hearing has been published in the Oxford leader and proper notice has been mailed by first class mail to each property owner within the proposed SAD. The office of supervisor verified and determined that the petition for potent uh peninsula drive sad was properly signed by the record owners of nine parcels with 12 out of the 14 signatures

005obtained uh based on the township tax rules or 85.7% of the participants and the attack and the attached petition for the township to determine the same. This is where we have an open hearing where this is a public hearing and I will open the the hearing at uh we'll call it 604 and at this time um anybody can come up and tell us about the SAD if they want it or don't want it or whatever and we'll listen to whatever anybody has to say. We would like to limit it just to three minutes maximum per person. Okay? We don't want to be here uh till next week. So anyways, if anybody has anything, the the hearing is now open. Please, if anybody would like to speak, uh if you just come up, you just have

006to state your name and um your address and um and then just whatever you'd like to say. >> Hi, my name is Teresa Aubrey. I live at 1853 Rochester Road and we are on the corner of the Peninsula in Rochester Road. Um, and I do approve the road because um, my husband fell when it gets really rainy or it snows right by the mailbox, it turns into ice. He fell, broke his arm. Another time he went, he fell and broke his wrist. frag fraction lose this risk. So I do approve it. I think it's something we do need to do and that's all I have to say. >> Well, thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Anybody else? My name is Pamela Roar and I'm here with my husband Mark Roar and I just

007like to say that the convergence of our entire road from Rochester Road to the very end of the road comes to our home where the easement proposed easement would be. Uh just in June we had 4 in to 6 in of rain in our garage bec and three rivers coming between my property and the adjacent property next to me. and we spend quite a bit of time just squeegeeing out our garage. Uh we're hoping to see a difference in this this year and we would be very grateful and blessed to be able to proceed forward after several years of trying to get this done and particularly my husband and my and myself. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Anybody else would like to speak on Peninsula? My name is Jeff Lawrence. We live at

00877 Peninsula and it's been dirty and dusty ever since we've lived there. Okay, the the dust is outrageous. People come ripping through there and there's no drainage anywhere. >> Just like said, there's no drainage anywhere. The road is always getting eroded all the way down. There's no proper drainage. We sorely needed this for a long time and I'm a total proponent of this and I think it would just make the the whole neighborhood safer and uh the water management system would be so much better for everything around there. People are worried, oh it's going to go into the lake. No, it'll be managed so that it won't go into the lake. and uh I can't say enough about the this project and why we should have it. >> Thank you. >> Hello, my name's Bob

009Watts and I've lived on 47 Drive since 1989. And when I first moved in, the water problem back then was even very bad because my garage sat lower than it does now. It used to run right through my garage. It's always dirty, nasty. You had to go work on the car or something. You had to get a towel towel or something to lay it on. It was so dirty. But so I jacked up the garage and put two course of block underneath it and uh poured a new cement or put a new cement floor in there. So that ated the garage problem. However, like uh Teresa or uh Emily, she mentioned that it runs between our two properties and it got so bad that at some point I had to call it quits. About 2000

010I started getting flooded out in the house. not from coming through my windows, but from the pure saturation of the ground, the water. It pushed it up through the floor of my basement. So, I spent another 10 grand here about five years ago, about six years ago, 10 grand to have my company come in and tr out the inside of my basement floor and put a sump pump in so I could manage the water inside my house. So anyways, >> thank you. >> Yes. >> Okay. Anybody else? >> Thank you. >> All I can say, everybody's conversation was wonderful. Buzz Gretchen, our governor say fix the damn roads. Fix the damn roads. Okay, that's all I can say. Hi, Camper Glitch 59. Uh we've only been there five years. Um however, the road has been

011a disaster since we moved in and I at the risk of not repeating what all of my neighbors have said, I wanted to go on record that my husband Tony and I are in total agreement with the plan. Thank you. >> Thank you. Just one comment. My name's Robin and Soda. I'm Manatic, so we've been through this already. Just to support it. Um, it was a big mess being done, but you better make sure you have proper drainage. My husband separately paid for the curbs on the road to make sure it flowed properly. The only disadvantage to the pave, we have black ice all the time on the roads with the large trees. Just letting everybody know, be careful that all the time. It never the dirt at least it was a little bit of

012a cushion. The road is icy all the time with all the big trees, but it's amazing they have the road paved. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, if anyone I'm sure you've been you've been down there a lot. >> And the water runs perfectly there. >> The curbs have helped a ton. >> Just got to flow. >> Uh, anyone else? If not hearing anyone else, then at this time I will close the hearing. I'll ask one more time if there's anyone else. At this time, I will close the hearing at uh 6:12 and thank you all for the comments. I'll open it up to the board now. Anybody on the board have any comments? >> Well, I've been a bit I've been reading this a lot because we keep changing it. you know, this is the

013third change that we've seen as the board and um I would like to have a written legal review on the project to make sure that we have done everything that we need to do. >> Let me let me ask this. >> Sure. >> Uh this is a road commission project. Do you want the road commission to tell you that I have the uh I have the paperwork here says the road commission has approved it. >> I see that. But it's been changed so many well when I read this it the changes are so minute. I want to make sure that we are legally done it right >> in reference to who? The road commission. >> No, the whole thing. the whole project. >> I can see I can see where you're going, but at the

014same there's one thing I would like to add, but at the same time, I don't have any issues in passing the resolution with a contingent. And then my contingent, it's nothing to do with the road in itself. I think it's great that you guys are coming forward, but in reading and the signing of the documents, it looks like Anthony and Robert are in charge and everybody in the SAD gave them permission. I would like to see um something in writing to confirm that the SAD approves the revised engineered plans because we just got new ones back and then include the date that the SAD approves um meaning Robert and um Anthony. the SAD approves the contractors selected and that the SAD authorizes the township to sign any permits required and understand that the permits are

015part of the SAD cost because those items haven't really been addressed. I would know that I'm comfortable in moving the resolution forward with that contingency in it. So you guys could create a letter and I don't mind sending if the board wants add ad add for Township Legal to review um the paperwork. I guess is you want him to review the paperwork? >> Yeah. Yeah. With that, I'll make a motion to establish an SAD requesting the township improvement receiving funds for peninsula project and the SAD to include a public road along with what I just read for Robert and Anthony and also add U. Mary's suggestion that legal review the documents that the board has before us. >> I'll second the motion. Okay. Any further comments? >> Does that mean we don't sign the resolution

016yet until we get the legal review? >> I'm moving it forward, but it's contingent upon one receiving the letter from Robert and um Anthony and then two, receiving um Legal's comments written to the township board. And then based on that, I guess we can decide when the second hearing would be scheduled. I don't think there'll be any delay >> to the schedule if if we >> Well, we can get it. I mean, we can send everything right away, but I don't know what his time frame is going to be, but we can send over the package that we have. >> There is a time element here. Um the paving, as you know, can only be done up until November. and um the company that they've uh chosen uh says they can do it if we

017approve it by next board meeting. So >> I've got a question. This the company that was approved to do the construction was from the road commission. Is that right? >> No, they submitted all Yes. >> Yeah. And so if we're going to get legal to write a letter saying that the road commission is correct. >> I think Mary wants legal to approve the documents that we have in front of us. Is that correct? >> That's correct. >> Yeah. >> No, she's not asking him to review what Oakland County. She's asking for a review of the documents in front of us. Can I just clarify with Mary? Like do you mean the the resolution or like the signatures or >> I just want legal to look through it all to make sure that it's all e

018legal and that it's >> I think we have the requirements based on the signatures the amount of signatures. I'm just wondering if it's if it's lang. I know you said there was a lot of changes on the resolution. >> Well, there was hard to find. There wasn't really that many changes. I just want to make sure that we have all of it that we need. >> What changes are you looking What changes are you talking about? >> The the entire package. >> Yeah, the entire package to have legal look through it to make sure that we >> What changes are you talking about? >> I want the legal to look through it to make sure that it's all correct. And like she said, there's a couple different letters from people and um I just want

019we don't have the planning commission didn't look at it at all. They didn't they weren't in it. So >> I don't think the planning commission would look at this. >> Well, that's good. >> Yeah. >> Is that something that's required? >> No. No. >> The law says 51%. If the people want to establish an a special assessment district, it takes 51%. Well, we have the time to do it. >> We already have a motion and a second. Please explain it to me. I move the resolution and then if you want me to read all of this again, Anthony and Robert to confirm in writing that the SAD that SAD approves the revised engineered plans dated, so the new date from the road commission that the SAD approves the contractors selected and that the SAD authorizes

020the township to sign any permits required and understand that the permits are part of the SAD cost. And then I added Mary's suggestion that she wanted legal to review um the board the board pack. >> Yeah. >> What what did you want? Okay. >> I don't think there's any reason to have legal review this. We've done SEDDS. We do these all the time. I think we're pretty familiar with the percentage signatures. >> This is the first time this has ever happened. What? >> I just spoke with the permit engineer from the Oakland County Road Commission, Scott Sinci, and he says this is approved. >> Okay. The road commission has reviewed it. >> The SAD. >> I know the audience approves it, and they should. What they what they're doing is very reasonable. It's not that

021I'm unreasonable about it. I just want to make sure legally we have everything we need on the project. Can I amend the motions? >> Yeah, it's already made. There's a second. I just need to vote on it. >> Call the roll call. Unless you have something you want to add. >> No. No. Call the vote. >> Karen Gall. >> I want to say no only if I can renew the motion. So, I'm gonna say no, but I'm going to move for another motion after this. >> Right. >> Mary Frost, >> yes. >> Ed Ringfield, >> no. >> Mike McDonald, >> no. >> Bennett, yes. Supervisor Pearson, >> no. >> Motion fails. I'd like to make a motion to move the resolution to establish a special assessment district requesting the township improve improvement result revolving funds

022for the peninsula drive project and sed to include a public private road with the first uh thing that Pauling said regarding the letter uh that Anthony and >> Robert was it Robert are going to be um there's going to be something in writing saying they'll be in charge of managing it. >> I'll second that. >> We have a motion. >> Can I have a little clarification? So, the petition already gives them the um position of managing the SAD. So, my first part of the motion was for them to address in writing three specific things. >> What you said, that's part of my motion. >> Put that in the motion. Thank you. Yeah. >> And so basically it's the same motion less the legal >> all the legal. >> Gotcha. >> Okay. >> Any other comments?

023>> And I want to verify your motion is contingent on getting those. So it's still going to go through if it makes a positive. Agree. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Call roll call if nobody has any comments. >> Mary Frost. >> Yes. >> Karen Gel. >> Yes. >> Edville. >> Yes. >> McDonald. >> Yes. >> Bennett. Yes. Supervisor Pearson. >> Yes. Okay. Uh resolution is so moved. That's the first hearing. There'll be another hearing next month if everything goes through. So, um thank you very much on the SAD. So, if you're if you're only here for that, you don't have to stay. Okay. But there's other stuff that's coming up on the board. But thank you. Okay, we'll move on to item number three is resolution authorizing the Oakland County Sheriff's Marine Patrol 2025 to

0242027 agreement. >> Um resolution authorizing the Oakton County Sheriff's Marine Patrol uh which will also include uh some township funding into the account. Um it's open for board. I'm just curious the hours. I can't find the hours in the agreement and then of course they're not in the resolution. Do we know what hours we're contracting for? >> They uh go by what the need is. Usually it's four hours on Saturday, four hours on Sunday, and on the holidays, uh they come >> four hours as well. >> Uh >> on the holidays >> usually, yes. And um but it's up to the the sergeant coordinates with the lieutenant out of the marine division because if it's a rainy day or whatever, they'll pick a different day or whatever if there's nobody out there. Um >> how

025many >> the agreement be the 444 unless we indicate otherwise? >> Well, the agreement is for how much money we have in the account. Okay. Uh as >> that that's in the sheriff's uh the resolution. >> Uh just before the >> it gives us a balance. It doesn't say what hours we're going to contract for. So I do >> it says has the authorization to extend the contract hours not to exceed the funds raised yearly in each consecutive agreement year. Traditionally the association has worked with the marine patrol to determine when they would be on the lake. That's not been a town. So you've foreseeing the 444 probably to go forward. >> So what >> Bruce said four Saturday, four Sunday, and four on holiday. So that's probably going to be the hours going forward.

026We didn't hear otherwise. >> Well, that's general the the general depending on the weather. There have been some years when it's rained every weekend and they've never had them out there on that time. So they pick other times, but it's dependent on the amount of uh money that is in the account determines how long they go. They only go until Labor Day. >> That's what my question is. When do they start and when do they >> start Memorial Day and then they end up on Labor Day, but as of right now this year, we're already halfway through the year, >> right? >> And they have been out there uh and we do uh the treasur I believe has uh the uh account information. We've been receiving donations already for the Marine Division and um there

027was $1,900, a little over $1,900 in there from last year that was still saved. So I believe there's going to be enough money for this year and then next year we uh we need to um start early and start the collections at that time. >> Okay. So >> So on the Go ahead, Mary. I was going to say in the whereas um at the bottom of the first page it says that we the township will cont shall contribute up to $1,000. So that would be just a th000. It wouldn't be a th000 monthly or anything. It's >> no that's $1,000 and what we're proposing is uh it's a donation out of the general fund. >> Okay. um to because the township now has property on the lake and we'll contribute u our share which is

028$1,000 for the marine division. >> Okay. Because in here it says um that we should um renew the fund and funded by private donations. Um, so do you think what we have in there and the extra thousand that that was is going to be enough for the rest of the year? >> Yes. >> Even if it isn't enough, our contract is that we have to have the money before the the patrol extends beyond that amount. >> So, okay. So, we're not going to pay for them and then hope we get it back. It's we give the sheriff an amount of money based on okay >> when they when we sign the contract and that's why we've been >> that's >> hoping to see the contributions come in and we've gotten significant money but >> because

029they do a fundraiser too the Lakeville >> we just received $700 um just recently right off and we have more people that say they will be in to contribute more. Okay. So, with that and our thousand and the 1900 in there, uh, we should have enough to last till Labor Day. That's next year. >> Okay. So, the >> dues are like a thousand because we're going to call them dues, not donation. >> Yeah. >> I'd like to move the resolution authorizing Oakland County Sheriff Marine Control for 2025 2027 agreement. And with that, I'd also like to amend after it's the last paragraph in the resolution where it says for the term of the agreement, the actual year should be inserted for the term of the 2025 2027 agreement. >> I'll support. >> Okay, we have

030a motion in support. Any other comments from the board? Not hearing. Could we have roll call, please? Mary Frost, >> yes. >> Edit, yes. Karen Gel, Mike McDonald, yes. Bennett, yes. Supervisor Person, >> yes. >> Okay, that passes, >> but it's not related to the motion. >> This the money is not from Addison Township funds or it's because we are property owners. We are being fair with everybody else. It's not that we're this board. >> It is not from >> because we're property owners. >> It's not from the police millage. It's from the >> just for clarification. Make sure they do that. It's not >> Addison Township is not doing this. It's >> our property owners doing it. We are. >> We are property owners now. Yes. Okay. So, that passes. So, they'll be uh

031Marine Division. As long as we have money out there, we'll get with the lieutenant from the Marine Division and and get them out there uh with the sergeant will coordinate that here at the township. So, at least we'll have them out for the rest of the year. >> Well, they were already out there, weren't they? >> Yeah. >> Well, yes, but we just approved it now. >> Okay. >> Maybe we can approve it before Memorial Day next lieutenant. Yes. >> Just a question. In the past, it's always the the boat's always been the sheriff's boat been, you know, parked somewhere or docked somewhere. Is he just going to be bringing in every four hours then? >> I think they'll bring the boat in and park it now. Yes. Yes. >> You know, I ran a

032fundraiser for a number of years, as you know. U we always collect a little bit of money from the the substation here for restitution. Is that still a possibility? >> That that always came out of the uh the OI fund. Okay. and the deputies themselves, that is money that they used to buy the few things that they wanted to add to the station, you know, like if they they needed something in the station there or whatever, and they for several years donated that instead of getting something for their station. But that is something that we can approach them on and ask them if they would like to donate. What that is is after they spend all that time on a on a court case for a drunk driving case, uh the court gives uh uh

033orders restitution and if those people pay back then it goes into I want to point out that they can use it for equipment and things like that. That's what they were >> they're sacrificing that. Okay. So, you know, in effect has been contributing is my point. Okay. I mean, they're part of the township, you know, they're part of, you know, Yes. And they they have I just want to point that out. >> Yes. >> So, >> they do donate. Yes, they have. In the past, >> the fundraising part of this back on because a letter in the mail that says it's been cancelled and they weren't going to do that from the LPOA. I'm not understanding all of a sudden here. >> The treasurer will address that. Yeah. >> Okay. I've been in communication with

034Gerard Rubble >> and um he informed me that he's working on a flyer. He did get the stickers and he's trying to get the word out by email as well. Um so it is back on according to everything I've heard from the property owners association and I know that uh uh Wayne Hodgeges is aware of that and is a proponent of it. Um, as long as Gerard's taking care of it. And I don't know, Mike, Mike's far more familiar with that situation than I am. But >> go ahead, Jeff. But, uh, >> okay. So, >> so they were stonewalling in May and now they're back on board. Is that what's going on? >> U, I will say they're on, let's leave it at they're on board. >> The fundraiser, okay, just as an example. Okay.

035I had to create my own database for mailing, okay? And I I I put a lot of my own money out to do that, okay? And and provide rap prizes and all kinds of stuff that I did t-shirts, okay? And and and I couldn't get a mailing list from the LLP away as I served as treasur. >> Okay. Right. So any this this is, you know, this is rich to me that they >> I I will I will make the Addison Township Treasures Office have that a information available uh if you need it in the for going forward. >> Go ahead, Jeff. >> There was an email sent out to the residents that we have emails for uh announcing that the fundraising was open and donations should be made to the treasur's office. >> Okay.

036Thank you. Great. >> Okay. Uh well, where else? Oh, yes. >> Is there any like state or federal marine grants? I know uses them subsidize it. And then I don't have a problem donating, but I just it'd be nice if it was kind of equally shared amongst everyone just like the boat slips. The last meeting I was at, we talked about charge per dock. If we hit up the same amount, added 20 bucks on everybody with the marinas, it would be covering the whole thing. Not everybody. >> Well, the marinas the marinas usually donate. So, I will approach them. They've always donated >> have to be we can never include it in with the whole two-year the boat we're paying for the clean up of the lake and everything else that can't be included in

037there. Just 20 bucks a house and we're done. >> I would not I have no idea. That's you know that's part of the uh lake association. That's part of their >> Yes. At our last meeting and I think Robinson's there as well. Next year they are proposing to take the money out of the educational proponent assignment and put that in every year and also charge every homeowner $50 for that year as well to cover all the marine control. So I that should be coming up for pretty soon at our next meeting in August. >> Okay. Okay. And that >> hopefully that uh >> and that is with the association we we we you know and if you decide that please let us know you know that would be helpful. >> I think it's going to

038be in the August meeting. >> Dr. Kass Mr. Pearson, you know, I was at the last meeting and at the lake board asked a really basic question was what do other lakes do with this patrol? >> They do. >> I have the answer for one. If you look up Deer Lake in Clarkston, okay, independent ship is 35,000 people. What are we out here? Eight, seven. They they appropriate $3,300 a year for marine patrol, which is about 68 hours in total. >> How many hours? >> 68. >> They said 68. >> No, not 50 bucks an hour. >> No, apparently somebody pulling your leg. >> 68 hours. >> You spend 33 $3,300. They might they might have their private that is might be part of the Clarkson city. Okay. That's not the >> the city contribute.

039>> Yes. So what I'm getting at is the type of money the population they have a public beach quite a considerable public beach. They only have 10 boat launches. Okay. And then there's about a 100 homes on the lake. So what I'm looking at is I hear all kinds of numbers like 1012,000 this and that. This is not a large amount of money. No, >> it let me explain. You know, >> patrol independent. >> Let me explain something. Let it's >> the contract for the sheriff's department has gone up dramatically for every township >> to put the boat out there. It's almost $50 an hour. So $50 an hour if you take $3,000 doesn't give you 68 hours. >> Yeah. Gives you 60. It gives you Yeah. 3,300 is 68 hours. Do the math. It's

040$4924. >> I I'm not pulling your life. This is This is my I have it on my phone. >> But we're talking about 4 hours. Uh that's eight hours a weekend. Okay. >> I don't question that. I think you're about head on with that with about an hour. Okay. I'm not questioning that. What I'm getting at is that the question is I want the board to think about this for the next month. Our police our police millage here is as much as Independent Township, which is 35,000 people. They have 75. They got Dixie Highway 15. What do we got over here? Why are we spending first of all so much on the police millage? And then how can we not qualify $3,000 for the marine patrol? >> I will tell you right now. >> That's

041the answer. I heard somebody say, "Well, it's not included in millage." Well, when they buy that helicopter over, is the air patrol included in the mill? >> There's no way that budget is the same as here as it is there. They have way more officers over there. I'll tell you that as well. this one. >> This is last >> I think they're close to 40 officers over there. Okay, >> it's apples and oranges, Mr. K. It's >> um Well, let me let me think. Okay. >> Okay. Well, anyways, um I think we're all set that that the Marine Division, we will do it. Okay, just so you understand, the state used to do this. The state used to send the money to the sheriff's department and that's how you got the patrols out there. Well,

042then the state cut the funding completely. The sheriff put all the boats in mothball because there's no funding in the sheriff's department anywhere in the state. This happened everywhere in the state. And so there is no funding. The only place that I know in Oakland County that they actually pay for the marine division is Wixom City on Wixom Lake. Okay. And that's it. >> So what you're saying is there was a vote out there most of July weekend one last weekend. this past week before. And what's a little confusing to me is they're willing to send these junk boats out on the holiday weekends. If we run a fundraiser and they're willing to take our money for the same service, >> no, we're going to have a permanent boat out there. >> No, here you're

043missing what I'm saying is it's almost like, okay, they send jump boats to Lake Oakland. >> We're we're always entitled to have family members. >> We're always entitled to a jump boat. The jump boats do roam the whole county. There are many, many lakes here >> and they're always out. So, anytime you need them, they will dispatch them to your lake. >> They put sheriff patrols out there free of charge on those weekends, okay, to those lakes because they don't have a fundraiser. They don't have this, okay, at family. >> We're entitled to that also. They bring them out here anytime that we call. >> They patrol our ours on the holiday weekend. They charge us. Okay. >> No, not the jumbo dichotomy there. just >> not not the jump boat >> with what we're

044getting from other lakes. >> The jump boat is just one that will come in for a few hours and then leave and go to another lake or wherever is needed. Okay? They don't stay for all that time. Okay? They're there for emergency use. And if you want one permanently on your lake, then that's where we have to have the fundraiser. And that's what we've done in the past. Okay, we're going to move on then. Um item number four will be authorizing um hiring of uh one new full-time position uh on the fire department. And we have the fire chief here. If you'd like to ex come up and explain that, um we yes, several years ago, Oakland County Medical Control made us have uh two people on the ambulance all the time. Of course the

045board was aware we ran um was able to um hire two people support that for two years and then we were able by the generosity of the residents for another village to support those two um and hopefully a third person. So we've been running three man shifts but one shift is actually only has two and is creating a lot of overtime. So, at this time, I'd like to see if the board would approve hiring another firefighter EMT and then make that person go to medical school, which will take about two years. Um, so we'll get the advantage of a full-time person um as an EMT and those wages are comparable to an EMT and then go to a medic once they get their license in about about two years. That's what I asked the board.

046Now, uh we do have funding available in our operating um millillage to support that other person. >> How long does it take them to go through the classes? >> Uh about 14 15 months and then there's clinical time and um the testing time. So about 16 months they can if we hired them today, it' be about 16 months before they're actually a paramedic. So they start out as a firefighter and then they're going to end up as a paramedic and 16. That's pretty good. 16. >> Yeah. They start out as a firefighter EMT and then they go up to the paramedic level. >> I like how you do that. >> Yeah. And I like what you're doing now because we're having that new building. How long before it's done? And we'll have be able to

047have somebody in that building. Um yeah, the station is actually um I just got to report there's, you know, only a few things to take care of in there. Drywall painting. Um the exterior is pretty much done about the end of August, beginning of September. >> Well, that's wonderful. Yeah. >> Then we'll have somebody in there to to be there when we need them. >> Yes. Correct. >> Okay. Go ahead, Mike. >> Um, I've been asked a couple times by residents, why are we looking at um an EMT rather than trying to find a paramedic that's already um licensed uh >> because every fire department in Oakland County in the state of Michigan and the nation is looking for a paramedic. So, instead of finding them, we thought we would farm them. So, if we're

048going to bring somebody in, we can check out and we'll get a lot more applicants with an EMT with that opportunity to become a medic and start on a fire department and get paid while they're going to school. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> And then they're used to the system and they're used to >> Addison to see if that's true, too. I like one question. >> What keeps them here after they're paramedic? >> Um, >> our great working conditions. >> I don't know. They love their we spend all that money on their training. >> Yeah, there's there there is we've done this before already twice, right? So, actually three times it's been um and it's very successful. We've had legal right of contract. So, after three years, if they leave, they have to pay some

049of that schooling back and all that stuff. So, there is things in place. This is the first time that the board has allowed me to do this and it's worked out great. So this would be the fourth time and that would um I hope it uh is successful again. >> Okay. As long as they're willing to reimburse us if they decided to go to somewhere. >> Yeah. They like I said it's tiered down for three years, right? So if they leave the first year they have to pay so much back. Second year and the third year they have to pay so much back. After the third year if they if they leave then once they get their license too by the way that's not um when they start. >> Yeah. going to get their license,

050>> which is about almost $6,000 per class. >> I know that'd be an awful convincing to keep me there would stay there, but you would have to pay that. >> I move to authorize hiring of one new full-time position with the minimum qualifications of firefighters for a paramedic position from career wages. And we have a motion and we have support. Do we have any comments from the board? Not hearing any. Could we have roll call, please? >> Breakfo, >> yes. >> Mary Frost, >> yes. >> Karen Gallal, >> yes. >> Mike McDonald, >> yes. >> Bennett, yes. Supervisor Pearson, >> yes. Motion passes. >> Thank you to the board and the residents. >> Yeah. Thank you, Chief. >> Yep. >> Okay. Now, we'll move on to number five. Phase two of the cemetery ruled repairs

051and drainage $5,77 from the cemetery improvement the uh the roads in the cemetery are because of the rains just like everywhere else some of the roads are eroding away and so um Pauline has gotten a hold of a a contractor who says he can come out and repair and put some ditching in and put some gravel in and um and to prevent the erosion. Uh some of our uh gravel is all going down uh right where there should be some grave sites. So um this will get cleaned up and and and hopefully uh be able to divert the water the way it's supposed to go. So >> got a question. >> Yes. >> Uh Southern B is going to be doing this. >> Yes. this is something that they're already familiar with and it's a

052$5,000. Does that qualify to not have to send out bids or are we using Sutherbe because they're familiar with this and we can wave the purchase. >> We're using Sutherby in the first stage because nobody nobody responded to my request to give me an estimate. He was the only one. So now he's asking to do the second stage and I would think that we should continue to stick with the person who has started phase one um so that he can finish where the um drainage issues are which I gave the board and please excuse it's not perfect but the the green line is where he's working on now. Those roads were just totally washed out and basically impos impassable. He started it really high up by the columbariums to help with the water drainage. And

053then as the rain kept pouring down, he noticed that there's two hills, one on Oaklane and then also one on Middle Lane where the water actually starts coming down on both hills, meet where it um where we're going to stick a culvert so that that culvert then will connect to the drainage um and go through the um other culverts that are already in existing. He already has rip wrap up there. He said one of the storms actually blew it off, so we had to reconfigure and start over again. >> So, yeah. >> One second. >> Before we go on, I'd like to make a motion we wave the purchasing requirement on this since we're going to be going to one single supplier. >> I'll support that motion. >> Okay. This is a motion to uh

054uh wave the purchasing because we only have one vendor. I I've tried to get vendors out there and they didn't come out either. So, I mean, try to get a heating and cooling guy nowadays to come out to your house. Good luck. Um, anyways, um, so we have a motion in a second. Is there any comment from the board on that? Okay, could we have roll call on that? >> Mary Pros, >> yes. >> Karen Donald, I break McDonald. Bennett, yes. Supervisor Pearson, >> yes. Okay, now do we have a second motion? I'll make a motion to authorize the uh cemetery or phase two of the cemetery road repairs and drainage for an amount not to exceed $5,77 from cemetery improvements. >> I'll second it. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second on

055that. Any comments? Any comments from the board? Should we include Mike in your motion to Sutherby construction or just let it go? >> Uh, that's a good point. I was assuming Surby, but we could add that up. >> No, second. >> Somebody wants to >> second because we're going to include Surby in it. >> Okay. So, who uh made the motion? >> I did. >> So, you're adding this and you're seconding that >> contract to Surby. >> Yeah. for the stated purposes and cost. >> Okay. Any comment for the board on that. >> It just makes sense that they continue the work, >> right? >> He thinks we are going to end up having and we can talk about this next year, but we should get somebody to come out there on a yearly basis

056and do one road at a time so that they're in a cycle of always having improvement. But he said it won't be him because he's retiring in two weeks. Okay, great. We're gonna be looking at ashalt someday. Yes. >> Uh, roll call, please. >> Karen Dial, >> yes. >> Mary Cross, >> yes. Ed Breakfield, >> yes. >> Mike McDonald, >> yes. >> Bennett, yes. Supervisor Pearson, >> yes. Okay, we move on to the next one. The resignation of our trustee, Linda Garrick. She was a great trustee. She's been here since 2008. Um, I'm very sorry that uh that she's leaving, but I understand, you know, it's been a long time and she uh just decided for personal reasons that she uh would I'd like to spend some more time someplace else. So maybe Florida during

057the winter, who knows, you know? But um so what I'm looking for is a motion to approve the resignation of trustee um Linda Garrick effective as of today, July 21st. >> With regret. with regret. I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. >> Okay, we have a motion and we have a second. >> Any more comments? >> Not hearing any. Do we have roll call on that, please? >> Mary Frost, >> yes. >> Go, yes. Edgel, yes. Mike McDonald, yes, supervisor. >> Yes. Um, now item number seven is a replacement, an appointment for that trustee position. Um, and I believe this would be up until the election of the governor's race. Um, which would be a year and a half and then that they would have to then uh go on the election cycle. Um, anybody

058have any any Yes. It's my understanding that we do not have a written policy as it relates to appointing a trustee when somebody resigns. And I know that we've already been through this once re in the recent past, fairly recent. And even that process didn't in my opinion work the way it should have. But am I is that accurate that we don't have a policy for the board in regards to how we replace somebody? >> What happens is they they give us a time limit and it's very short. >> Well, I understand the statute. >> Yeah. But what I'm saying is here we are we have to we have to do something pretty quick. How are we going to get it out to the township residents to say is anybody interested in being on on

059this board? Like do we post do we let people come up and you know say something? How do we I don't am I right? There's no written policy for the board. Well, I think the board just has to uh appoint someone that they think that fill the position for a year and a half and then let it be the voters who determine. I mean, right now that like I said, they do put a limit on us. So, if anybody has a suggestion, go right ahead with it. >> And Bruce, this has happened before, right? and Eric Sentin. We had to replace someone with Eric Sentin. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, I was the only no vote. Everybody voted yes except for me because I didn't know Eric. After that, the the appointment was outstanding.

060He was one of the best trustees I believe we've ever had. And I think that appointment was just an appointment to because it was such a short term after that. So, I don't know if we have a ruling on that, but I remember Eric coming in. >> Mike, >> go ahead. I I went once already. I'll go after Mike. Well, Karen's going to hate me for this, but I I'm a believer in transparency and honesty as well, but this is a process that generally doesn't have a policy because most communities, it's usually few and far between. Most most communities don't. Um that said, I think that because of the circumstances, the boards, our board has to rely on our knowledge and familiarity with the community and the people that are in it. And as we've

061done in the past, people that have shown an interest in running for office um not necessarily um this office but uh have been community supporters etc are usually uh looked upon favorably and I don't think we have to adopt a policy to be able to find a capable person uh that can work with us on the board. Um, and okay, >> the the only other thing I'd like to say is we do have 30 days. We do have one more meeting before the 30 days. When Chuck passed away, we had people in the audience that wanted to um, you know, they applied and and they wanted to speak and unfortunately they weren't able to speak that day because somebody was nominated and voted on before they were able to speak. So, I like the process

062of putting it out there to the residents. If there's anybody who wants to submit an application, come here and speak at the next meeting and then we can vote. I mean, I could name somebody today, but I mean, I'd like to talk to them first. I'm sure everybody else here could name people. So, >> I mean, is that something we can do? We have 30 days. We We're going to have a meeting before the 30 days is up. Is that I mean, that's what the statute says. >> You're talking about >> pleasure >> that we got our packet. There was a question in my mind about whether we actually have the 30 days because the law has two directions. Um the MCL says 45 days from the date of resignation and the election law or

063I might have it backwards and the election law says uh 45 days from the date of resignation of a officer. So >> where did you see that? It says 30 days or 45 days. Is that in these things that we got in our packet? >> It's the 45 days is there. >> Mike Legal did Opine and he said um MCL section 4156 >> is the governing. >> Oh, okay. >> So is it for is it from the date July 1st of the resignation or is it from tonight? No, it says >> from tonight. >> Tonight. >> And you just we just voted it was effective July 21st. >> Yes, we did. >> So, >> well, if anybody have anybody they'd like to recommend, >> I'd like to make a motion that we post this and

064have residents who are interested in serving on the board submit an application or letter of interest and then have them come to the board meeting in August and then the board votes on on that night >> or or somebody could be nominated from the board that night, too. I mean, >> Mhm. >> We've seen we've seen it done before with with Jacob and even with me. >> Make a motion. >> Yeah. >> Whatever that whatever you guys want. >> That's my motion. >> She made the motion. >> Okay. Then we have to have a second. >> Can you say again what the motion actually is? >> To post for the the opening of the trustee position. >> Okay. and any interested applicants have to provide a letter of interest or an application and then they'd

065be invited to our board meeting in August to speak and then the board would vote and if some if the board wanted to nominate someone that night or maybe it reached out to them in advance then they could submit their application and then we would vote. >> I mean unless there's some other suggestion I don't know I'm just no >> but we would have to appoint that night of the board because we'd be out of time. Mhm. >> Well, I mean, we would have the applications in advance because they're going to be submitted in advance, right? >> So, what do we do if that doesn't happen? Nobody shows up. >> I'm sure some of I'm sure they'll show up. >> I hope so. >> I nominate the chief. >> We got too many smart people

066here. >> I mean, I'm just throwing it out there. I get it. Yeah, >> you know, it was not that long ago when we filled Chuck's position and >> that was kind of the process that we were heading toward. >> So, I like that process. Unless anybody else has any suggestions, I'm open to it. But, >> well, I will throw this out. I do know one person. We also have to have a representative from the board that also from the >> sits on Yeah. sits on the planning commission. Uh we do have one person who is on the planning commission. Okay, which is Jenny Eller and uh she has called and shown interest that she would like to be in that running. Okay, I mean and she is on our planning board. Okay, that would

067solve our issue also. She's familiar with the government and it would solve our issue that we would then also have a representative on the planning board. But that's up to the board. Why do why does it have to be the somebody from the planning board? >> Just because she's got experience, >> you know, that experience is >> the law indicates that a member of the township board must be on the planning commission. Okay. >> So, we do have to fill both. >> It it just solves the issue is what I'm saying because we have to have that leaison. And so I'm throwing that out that we have somebody that's on the planning board who has called and said that they would like to be and has run before for that position >> and would longtime

068resident in the township and her parents are live in the township. So I'm just throwing that out. She's also been on the library, a member of the library board >> and demonstrated a lot of support for Addison Township and actually the village of Leonard uh through their business contacts and their own effort their own effort. That's >> right. Yes. I >> I do know Jenny. I was just wondering why it had to be the planning commission. >> Well, no. Then we would have to find someone. >> That's why I'm saying did we have to find one? >> The trustees here wants to take on another job. So, what I would like to see is I think Jenny would be an excellent pick. Um, but I also think that this is now our third time this

069happened. I do think we do need a policy so that we're not caught scrambling at the last moment. I think that we could go ahead and if that was your nomination, but then I would also like Karen's motion that um we go forward so that next time it happens, we have a policy in place and then everybody knows what they're going to do and how the board would become involved. And >> if you guys want me to, I could work on that and bring it back next month. >> With that being said, I will make the motion. >> Wait a minute. I have a motion pending. >> Oh. Oh, you have one pending. >> It failed for lack of a second. >> There was no second. >> I don't even know if anybody if you

070asked for a second. >> I did ask. >> Yeah, >> I asked if anybody wanted to second it. >> Okay. Nobody wants to support you, Karen. >> I'd like to do both. >> That's tough. >> I I think I could I speak I would like to put a motion for that we appoint Jenny Eller for this time. There's a year and a half left or less than that now left. But I'd also in that motion say that we can set up at the next meeting or whatever start preparing our criteria for future appointments and um because this one's going to be determined in a year and five months anyhow at the election. So they're going to >> I could just to keep it clean. Should we just make a motion this time to appoint Jenny

071Eller and get the roll call and then make a motion to set a uh ruling on how to do future appointments? So, what you're doing it really make it two motions two motions. >> Was it going to carry or >> It just wasn't on the agenda. >> I think we should back it up a little bit and see what Karen's motion was. Well, there wasn't a second, so now he's making another motion. So, and now Ed's trying to modify. >> Yeah. Okay. >> I'd like this is >> you can have both of the in the motion. >> I think your motion is right that we should have a policy. >> Bruce is making a motion now to nominate and to bring it back for policy. So, I think that it covers I got a little

072confusing. >> So, that Okay. My motion is to appoint Jenny Eller for this vacancy and then to also spend time at the township board or whatever and come up with a policy for putting somebody on the board the next time this happens because this has come up a couple times because of unfortunate deaths and different things like that. So that's my motion. >> Is there a second or not? >> I'll second the motion. >> Yes. >> Okay. just I I don't know Jenny and I don't sure she's a great person, but how long has she been serving on the did you say on the planning commission? >> She's been there uh over uh what year and a half. She'd been on the library board at least uh how long? Um >> 10 years and um

073and uh she was appointed onto the planning board here. It's been probably >> I would not that long has it? It's been a year at least, >> I believe. Has it? >> So, um, but anyways, um, we've all known her because of the library board and she's been here and she very helpful in the community always. So, but anyway, so we do have a motion and we do have a second. Correct. >> Okay. Then ask for roll call. >> Mary Frost, >> yes. >> Ed Brafield, >> yes. Karen Gel, >> yes. >> Mike McDonald, >> yes. >> Bennett, yes. Supervisor Pearson, >> yes. >> Okay. And that passes, >> I'd like to offer another motion that depending on the supervisor's recommendation that uh Jenny Eller be appointed to the planning commission as our um leazison.

074>> I think that would happen next month, wouldn't you? We couldn't wait till next month, but >> Okay. >> Yeah, we got to make sure she accepts us when she might be smart too and not, >> you know. >> So, >> okay, I would draw that. >> Yeah. So, we'll do that next time. Okay. Uh, public forum. We'll move on to that public forum. Anybody in the public would like to speak? >> Um, just real quick, I wanted to make it on the record that I thank Linda Garrett for her service for this township. She's uh always asked a lot of good questions. Um her and I have had a lot of good conversations. She fought back and forth with me a little bit and had some good insight and things and and I really

075going to miss her. So, thank her for that um years of service she did for this township. Thank you. >> Thank you, Chief. Anybody else in public comment? This is your opportunity. Nobody else. Okay. Well, I'll close that and we'll move on. township uh board. Anybody on the board have any reports? Anything on cable or treasures or nothing? I uh material management at Oakland County had a meeting on June 24th and they um they did obtain a $320,000 grant from natural resources/ eagle um for the first year of a three-year program to develop a materials management program at the county and that they are also uh funding SEMCOG's education fund as part of that uh process, but it's $320,000 the first year, 30060,000 the following two years. So, they've got a a lot of money

076for something that really right now there's not a lot of direction. they they're into creating or pushing recycling and improvements in material handling um not just at the county but I mean across across Oakland County um and there's no talk about really fundamentally handling the solid waste um that we already generate and have. So we'll see how successful this is in three years hopefully. I was able to reach out to five companies who um who put up playgrounds because as you know uh our pickleball courts are great but we are slacking on the kids recreation. Um so out of the five who responded one lady actually came out and took measurements and showed me books and is going to come up with an estimate for playground equipment. Another gentleman didn't come out because he said

077that he was equipped to do it from his office and did measurements, etc., and said that he's interested and will probably give us a price. I'm hoping that the other three companies will respond so that we get a better turnout, but that's as far as I got so far. >> Okay. Anyone else? Nobody. Okay. Any communications? >> No. >> Okay. Supervisor's report. This is the one that lasts two to three hours. >> Okay, just kidding. It only lasts an hour. Anyways, uh I just want to say um you know, we had some storm damage. Um if you live around this area, the the center of the storm was right at Rochester and Mac is what the weather reports say. If you uh are live on the lake, especially from the north end of the lake,

078uh cutting across to the township, we had damage up here, too. Um I would uh advise you to check your roofs because they were all damaged. The hail came down and punched the gravel through the ashalt of your shingles. And uh so far, I haven't heard of anybody being denied a new roof. Oh, they they >> said cosmetic. Oh, well anyways, um so far we have >> one. >> Oh, well, we have multiple multiple uh uh permits coming in right now. So, I just want to that's a public notice that if you have damage, check it, you know. >> Which storm was that? >> Ice storm. That was on the >> June 20th. >> Yeah. On a Saturday. Yes. So, um and we've had some outages. Uh but they've been for trees for electric. It's

079and it's trees that aren't really in the right of way. They're outside of the right of way and they've been falling in and knocking the the uh lines down. So, if the road commission asks if they can cut or not the road commission, but if DTE can ask if they can cut a little bit back, it would be very helpful because uh they can only do what the easement is, which is what usually 20 ft. And uh and so it is helpful if if you let them cut the trees back a little bit. uh road grading the the rains one after another. Um but they have been outspotting the bad bad areas again, you know. Um I've been working very well with the road commission foreman and he's been doing just about everything I've uh

080asked of him as a favor because um he's got several other townships to do too, but he does break free and break come back to our really bad areas. So, uh, other than that, um, uh, I really don't have anything else on the for the supervisor's report. So, our next, uh, meeting will be on August 18th at 6:00. And I'd ask for a motion for adjournment. >> So, move. >> I'll second. >> We have a second motion and a second. >> All those in favor say I. I. >> We are adjourned. Thank you very much.

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