001very competitive. Call the meeting for the Oxford Downtown Development Authority, June 16th, 2025. All ris to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Can we have a roll call, please? Sure. Um, Scott Taylor, yes. Uh, Jay Choy, Jacob Nosia here. Ashley Ross here. Marie Powers absent. Uh, Rod Charles, yes. Pete Schultz, yes. Melissa Cornelius, yes. and Holly Fifer here. Hi Molly question. Yes, sir. When we do the attendance, so we have a our bylaws, if you miss three meetings, you're out. Do we report them as quote unquote approved or how do we handle that? Does someone know? My understanding is if there's a like a heads up, then that was considered approved and would it
002be considered an absence per se to get kicked off? So I know Maria had sent an email out asking to Okay. Okay. Any public comment on non-aggenda items? Seeing none. The next item agenda five consent agenda. I'll make a motion to approve consent agenda items A, B, C, and D. I'll second that. By Ross, second by Charles. Any other questions on our in favor? I financial Motion to approve financials uh A and B with bills in the amount for May of 2025 in the amount of $40,892.71. Support any questions? Roll call, please. Uh Pete Schultz. Yes. Rod Charles. Yes. Uh Ashley Ross. Yes. Jacob Nosia. Yes. Holly Piper. Yes. Scott Taylor. Yes. Jay Troy. Yes. Melissa Cornelius. Yes. DDA reports. Board committee report. Kimberly. What's your hand? That was sick. Actually, that time that one
003I missed. Or maybe Ashley would because I my stepdad passed away. I missed that meeting. Um we met. We did not have a super formal agenda. It was everything has been running smoothly. Kimberly gave us some updates on what has been going on in the district. We touched base just briefly about I think we're at six months, seven months with Kimberly, how everything's going and all is well right now. Well, that was as good. Thank you. Uh, EV committee report that you did not meet this month. So, we'll move on to the promotional committee report. Um, okay. Well, we had um a meeting and we kind of just went over the upcoming concerts. Um they are starting this week. Um the open air markets um uh each week we're with the volunteers and that we're
004going to be emailing them out giving them updates on what to do and what to expect on Monday or Tuesday. And um with the dancing we may No, we're good. It's a go. Okay, good. So we got enough people signed up that that's a go now. And uh the cornhole is um filling up and closed. It's all full. Okay. And when does that start? This one starts tomorrow. Yeah. Question. Uh who's doing the dance instruction? I believe it's the same gentleman from last year. Yeah. We did talk about potential different. So, what happened was we were not getting the uh numbers that we were looking for. And so, up until yesterday, actually, we were under the impression that we were going to have to cancel it. And then a bunch of people kind of came
005in last minute. We were doing some promo. Um but when we were talking in promo meeting last week, there were a couple other um recommendations for dancers, instructors. So, next time we'll definitely cast that net a little wider. I think just from a convenience standpoint, we did it the same person. Yeah, that makes sense. I think another good choice. Any questions on that design? I was there, but I was a guest. Oh, were you? I was there. Yeah. Oh, were you? Okay. Yeah. Um, yeah. Geez, we we did go over quite a bit. Um uh let's see where the planter boxes where the Christmas trees are. Um, we have a proposal for that to be done so it looks like boxwood and that way it can be maybe back lit with some lights to make
006it pretty and stuff and or ornaments during the year, but it should be a little more durable and look a little nicer than what the trees the trees just didn't hold up that are there. Um, we what did we do? Uh we found some picnic tables that um were within the budget that were replacing some that are missing or broken or Yeah. So what happened was we had missing, but we think potentially at least one of those has been thrown away because it was broken. Um, so what we were trying to do is just utilize the picnic tables that were already out there, but what we found is they were not intended to be used with an umbrella. And so it's just it's not working. It's the umbrellas are not staying up. They're, you know,
007kind of stretching the hole that was created in the plastic. So we um actually found some very budget friendly but commercial grade um options for us. They were delivered today, so they should be in um Washington Square within the next couple days. Yes, understood. And just one quick thing before we move on. Um for the boxwood suggestion, there are numbers here on page three of the design committee's meeting minutes. Um this is how much it would cost to go forward with that project. I don't know that we need to vote on it necessarily tonight, but I would like just feedback generally. It was a little bit higher than I think anyone was anticipating for the costs. And I think it the c the reason for that was it's a commercial grade wrapping of boxwood which
008would in theory withstand the weather and the wind a little bit better. Um but of course we're have to pay for that. Right. Are you looking for feedback right now, Kimberly? Yes. I mean, based on what you were saying, it seems like it would work because we want something a little bit more substantial. I mean, is that your what's your advice to Well, here's my concern is we that was a project created last summer and they have not really moved in a year even with the trees in there. And so I wasn't involved in the original project planning portion, but my understanding is that the intent was to help kind of muffle the sound from 24 provide some privacy. I don't know if that's still something that everyone feels strongly about doing and having. The
009planter boxes were very expensive. Um I think we have to just we're the idea of moving them consistently does not appeal to me. They're going to be very very heavy. Um my thought is is once we get them and we put them somewhere, they're going to stay there. So if everybody feels good about that, that's great. But we also have to remember, yes, it will give privacy. It will perhaps cut down on the wind a bit, but is that going to then take away some of the visibility from 24, which then entices people to just drop in? Kind of have to weigh those pros and cons. And I also think anything that's sitting next to that road, I'm sorry. Anything that's sitting next to that road is not going to do well when you're talking
010about wind, salt, cars. I mean, so well, on these going back what Scott said, I agree with things that go on there, but are they designed to put up with the elements that Mr. Taylor just described or or not? I mean, I understand how big they are, heavy, and hard to move, but then we always been hearing ever since we set up Washington Square that it's the traffic, the dust, the noise, especially the zooming of the big heavy trucks. So, we're kind of caught between two two things here. You know, I can't speak to if it's really going to cut down on the noise. I don't know the answer to that. I think from my understanding, what Scott was sharing is that it should be sturdy enough to not have a problem breaking. So, is
011something that we want to do to kind of create more of a barrier between the sidewalk and into Washington Square. That's great. But I just again, we are we don't we're trying to minimize the things that we have to move twice a week every week during the summer. Question on it. Um, if we go through all this and put the big box of stuff around and do everything, is it the intent then that they would all be moved to create the barrier along 24, but it would have to be on the inside of the get all that space behind it kind of thing. Yeah, we the idea from my understanding, again, we haven't delved too deeply into it, but my understanding like where those rocks are right now, we would kind of clear some space
012and put those in there and have the rocks kind of surrounding it. And once they're there, that's where they're going to live. And then my second question, as far as people driving by and trying to see into it, they're not going to be able to drive by and see, you know, what's going on, what event is in there, even the people playing hole or doing dancing or doing anything. So, we're kind of double whammy both ways. The other question is last year there was a bunch of big flower pots and stuff on the wall out front and I don't see them there this year. Correct. Which, you know, it definitely made the place look nice and do everything, but even that helps, you know, lock too. I will say we did have some challenges with
013those staying stationary there. Um over the last couple years we tried a multitude of items to try and get the pots to actually stay. Um so that was a little bit of a challenge and I think one disappeared at one point. Um we can put something there certainly that would be an alternative option. Right. Just want to come back on these things. I I understand what you're saying about moving these things around because I remember when I was things two years ago was a pain in the neck. But are they would we just move them once a season or I don't understand how often we'd have to move them. I like to give kind of some sound protection but I understand about the noise because I busted my back a couple times stuff. I'm not
014clear as to what additional intent the project was hoping to create other than sound you know um minimizing of the space. Um, I know we did talk a little bit about decorating it over the holidays. So, I don't We certainly can move them once or twice a year. It's just not something I'd want to do weekly. Um, I think there was also some conversation around potentially having them within the square, but then during the summer with the heat, it kind of puts divots into the asphalt. Um, so that kind of was not really a great choice. Um, where else they would go other than the perimeter because right now they're actually sitting up on that curved sidewalk. So, it's going to take a few people in order to get off of there in the first
015place to be able to move. Yeah. And we would have to do some cleaning and like leveling of that space where they would go. What's the board's thoughts? We recommend spending the money to do this or not do it or what? I I don't think we should scrap them. So, I think that we should make them usable. And if we can do it, I mean, this is probably more than you wanted to spend, but it doesn't seem too bad as far as overall to make them usable and durable. And we're going to get a couple more years out of them and then perhaps because either to me the the question is do we reinforce them or do we throw them away, right? Like that's um I mean there are there could be other alternatives. I
016mean we could do something lower. It wouldn't solve the sound problem though. Like if we wanted to make them planters for flowers obviously that would be shorter. We could have the same kind of idea and kind of just put it there um for a visual appeal if we don't want to be spending you know $2,500. But again, I'm not clear as to if there was more in that project outside of just the sound. It would also be a nice backdrop for like photos and stuff when people are out there. Um, you know, because they're a little bit taller. If we put the lights in there and stuff, it would it would attract people like, "Oh, let's take a picture." get together or I don't know. Yeah. Washington Square or Kimberly, you currently have money in
017the budget that would cover it. Correct. I would say my recommendation just go ahead. I agree. Else I agree. Do we vote on it or what? Sure. It's money. So, we technically have to vote since if that's a recommendation. I don't Is that roll call then? Yes. Okay. Uh Scott Taylor, yes. Jay Choy, yes. Melissa Cornelius, yes. Jacob Nicoia, yes. Ashley Ross, no. Rod Charles, yes. Pete Schultz, yes. Holly Piper, yes. Not to be nitpicky, but do we have an actual motion? I did. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um there was one other topic that we went over quite extensively in the design or in the design committee was the uh waste receptacles in the benches. whether or not we were going to repair what we have and or um purchase new. Um we're looking into both
018options still. Um we're hoping to get another quote or two for the refurbishing them and then we're on the hunt for possibly re just purchasing new ones just because it was less expensive. Yes, on that note with the benches, I mean go this frequently, right? Every couple years because of the deterioration, is there a huge difference between brand new ones versus all the hassle of sand blasting all the baloney that goes on with refur refurbishing? I mean, is it worth the hassle versus saving five bucks or whatever the dollar amount is for what? Purchasing new or purchasing new versus having the existing ones. Yeah, I don't recall what the difference was for the benches. Yeah, I think for the benches it was a little bit more. We're looking at a little bit more. There's a
019couple hundred difference per with the trash cans. We could get them at or below slightly below what we would have to pay. That being said, we only have one quote. So, we've reached out to other um businesses to try and get additional quotes for that and see if that's, you know, market value for that. process. Are we talking about the benches through the whole town or just just on 24? I think the trash cans and the benches on 24 were part of the project. So now it's been five years. Correct? Yeah. So we've gotten five years out of without having to do anything to them. Yeah, that's good. So again, if we replace it with something, I would hope that we at least get the exact same thing another five years out of the next
020one. Otherwise, if we end up only two years or three years, we didn't accomplish anything. Right. We're looking at a composite a composite option that's got a 50-year warranty or durability expectancy. Um, right. I mean, or the metal and just refinishing it. Yeah, we would have to look into the small print on that and see what they would exactly cover if it's just a warranty of their product or if that includes wear and tear and weather and whatnot. Right. Two points. One of the composits. I know I some of the composits they'll warranty the product but the oxidization the the the bleach and the color etc. Sometimes they don't warrant that. So there's your fine point. What's the total dollar amount between new versus doing the rehab. So, we did not as a committee, they
021did not select a bench or trash can that they wanted to move forward with because they wanted to table it until next month and get more information, get additional quotes, and then be able to look at the cataloges again. But I can tell you that the quote that we got from um the local organization is about 15 to 16,000. Pardon me. The difference? No, the total What's the difference between refurbishing versus buying new? Well, that's what I'm saying. I can't give you that answer because they have not selected. They only got one picture. Well, they don't have an item to compare it to yet. Okay. Yeah. Because to me that would be the the deciding factor. If it's not a large amount, then I say to piece point, we pay whatever you know that as
022part of the project, it lasted five years. So, if it's a little bit of money, then Yeah. And we can provide that next next month. If the if the committee comes together with a decision or a recommendation, we can have that that um contrast for you. Joe, do you have in the records the brand or model whatever that was specified in the question? I believe so. I think um Ben ready for vendor whatever got a lot of those wire things or like those around the tree grates and stuff like that because we had to replace those hydrants and holes maybe a bench or you know I don't call it bench specifically but we had a lot of supplier context as you know a lot of that was state funding and it was uh had to
023be made in America some of those things are pretty expensive they're highra steel stuff I think we have contacts and sources for most if not all those amenities. Okay. If I remember correctly, Rudy sent something about the bench when we had a business owner that was interested in getting a new bench in their space and it was 1,500 I want to say per bench when it was purchased. And those tables that were initially at the corner, you know, that were matched, people thought, oh, they're kind of light. quite heavy the chairs chairs and table they were quite heavy heavy duty they were inexpensive either but again that sort of standard $10 made us so we should probably make sure that we're comparing apples to apples on that because you can probably buy a truck bench
024for five or six hundred bucks but it's you're definitely not going to get the same look that you get with the first I mean, either way, the keep in mind the the benches and trash cans that were pre-existing for the 104 project were all taken off. They were sent out to accompany the sand blast them and paint down. Um, and those were the ones that are all behind the buildings. And now I understand that the pain is starting to feel the also. It's it's a fivey year time expectancy on those two the ones that were but they didn't have the two layer process of priming and painting is as far as what we're looking at now at this time with the priming. Yeah, I think the ones behind our shop still look okay. Yeah, that
025was like as soon as those have been there four years because as soon as they came in when we started the car shows I asked if we could get those back there. So they're definitely used. Um we did have Ashley as a visitor. Um do you want to talk about that or visit you? Yes, she came and visited and as a guest speaker stalker. Yeah. Um, yes. So, coming out of the home and history subcommittee, we have some dactics or just labels for um seven of the buildings around town that are historic in nature. So, Home and History has finalized the text in conjunction with the museum as well as the historic photos. And so, we took it to design committee to ask for help actually designing, getting quotes, asking business owners, you know, can
026we put something on your building? Um, and so it's with design committee now to kind of get that next mockup and go from there, which we thought was a better fit as opposed to home and history folks designing everything and doing that aspect of it. Yes. Awesome. Then the next move right in the home history. Perfect. Okay. So, we are at a stage of home and history of getting stuff done. So, didactics are now with design committee, the historic marker. Um, I am waiting on one last bit of feedback. I emailed the state of Michigan, my contact there, um, just to make sure everything looks good before submitting. And then we just need signatures from the village who approved everything at their last meeting. um as well as our signature for the DEA as well,
027which I think is just going to be me because it's whoever is the direct contact and it wouldn't make sense to have everything come to you. I'm so good with that. So, um, once I'm giving them a little bit more time at the state just to respond and we'll go from there. But we've got feedback from the historic commission, things are moving forward well. And we have approval to use the funds to apply and for the marker if we're selected as well as um some contingency funding we can go back and ask for as well. Um, Rod, do you want to give places tour update? Sure. Uh, first of all, a compliment. Actually, I uh as I told you, I've been otherwise engaged and what not out of action last few weeks here and she's
028really done a great job and all that things. So, I think the entire board or community should appreciate what you've done. Actually, I think it wouldn't move as far as it has without your effort and energy. Um, so on the uh building owner, I actually as today I spoke with the uh building owner where the tungsten hardware was um because there were some issues about paint on the brick, the soft brick. So Ashley here again was able to help us with that. Plus I uh I discussed it with Ron Campbell who works for Oakland County. That's Ron's uh his job of the county is to work on historic projects. So, we're looking at permeable paint and then actually brought up some issues about the fact that we don't have to cover the entire wall. So,
029there would be some breathability with that old soft brick that's used a lot of these buildings. So, we're moving forward. She's uh the building owner has some issues coming up. We've got a meeting planned not this week, but the next week I want to lock it down. I also spoke with the uh one of the owners of the building adjacent to it. They're justifiably concerned about if we get up on the roof and somebody pokes a hole in the roof. So we we might have to come up with some kind of a waiver says something that you know we'll treat it respectfully so don't pop to the ceiling you know plus as you know that building is uh now unoccupied and that's that's it as far as that goes. I will bring up one thing
030I uh uh we had a we're doing a test run on the welcome tour. Uh I have to check with Bradford Jacobson. It's tenatively scheduled for June 23 and June 24th. It's a test run. So, uh, I think it should be kind of fun to do. Budget about an hour and 45 minutes or so to do that. And Brad and I drove around that car two different times to get a rough idea of how long it would take and what we talk about, etc., etc. So, I'm excited about that. A lot of interest. The only downside there is the not a bus. Last time we had to cancel because the bus only, well, they couldn't find a driver. We had to cancel and the bus only holds 10 people. So, we're not gonna have a
031huge huge uh crowd at this point. Kimberly, um how are you soliciting people to be in this tour? Um well, some of the people that have been involved like me Jay and some other people, you know, we're still piloting, so we're not ready to like pull on it. Yeah, it's you know, that's the word that's piling. So, after the third 24th, we'll know more. Um, so we've had some discussions for the village 150th and America 250, making next year kind of a year-long celebration. So between the markers, the mural, the time capsule that we have to find out where it is, unless you already know, Joe, one in the park, one in the Sure. It's next door, right? um really trying to stretch out using some of the DVDA events that are already existing to
032celebrate that history part. I think even with the Oakland County presentation of um uh Main Street accreditation that you know history is a big part and so I think this is really showing that yes we are doing these things. And then the very last thing, this is preliminary. Um Leslie Pilock and I have been having discussions about um the museum building which the village owns, but um just to make sure we're doing right with preservation and it's within our district. I went out there and looked at it. She went out there and looked at it. Um and so we have put some recommendations forward to Joe and to Kelsey just to see if there's something we want to do to make sure it's staying nice and fresh and keeping it safe. Anything else? All right.
033Well, I won't obviously go through everything, but a couple highlights is um if you are not aware, Oakland County now has a economic development grant resource and that is um Justin Wilcox who used to be on the DDA board. um he's reached out and I've partnered him or put him together with a couple businesses downtown and he is willing and open to talking with them about their needs and then helping them to search for grants and helping them to apply for grants. So I think that's going to be a great resource uh because I am not a grant writer. Um so I can only help so much with that, but it's going to be a great resource as well for us to be able to tap into and get information for our business owners. Um
034as Ashley mentioned, we were were presented with our accreditation certificate at the council meeting last week. So that was exciting. And then if you have not heard, we won the big award last week at the Oakland County uh Main Street event. So that was very exciting. It it was uh based on a video created to highlight Oxford community as a whole and we had Scott and Jay and we had another business owner from Scott's Toys and Joe um all spoke on the video. So I'm having I'm working with OCTV. I think I'll get the link tomorrow and I can post it so people can start to watch it. But very exciting. It was the top prize $2,000 um for the community. So that's great. Very exciting about that. Um we also in the last month
035hosted the first grade groups coming through again. They stopped at the DDA office, the police station, the museum, and Scott or sick pizza, sorry. And they had a great time. We had popsicles in Washington Square. They walked all around. They had a really, really fun time. So, we enjoy that. That's a really fun piece of our job to get to see the little ones. You know, we were, you know, do you have questions for us? Do you um arrest people? Do you have a jail? Do you have a uniform? We're like, nope, that's in the police department next next stop. So, could be a recommendation. I mean, but very fun day doing that. Um, also a huge shout out to DPW, um, and the village of course for all of their help with getting the
036downtown and the district looking the way that it does. They were so helpful in moving things, helping us find things, getting things for us, doing things for us. I mean, it's just I can't even express how much uh they've helped us this year. So, I wanted to get a huge shout out for that. And then as Holly mentioned earlier, I think in the promo, um, we started something new this year where we're offering volunteer opportunities at the concerts in the market. We have not done that before since I've been with the organization. And we have all of the concerts and all of the markets filled with volunteers. So, we're super excited about that. Getting people downtown that they can share with their friends um just to see what we do, kind of see behind the
037scenes that it's maybe not quite as easy as one might think um to put on a concert. Um, or market for for that matter too. Um so we're really pumped about that piece. Great job. Question on the business development we have u vis visual merchandising AI and small business tax sessions. Can you background on that? Yep. So we're working we're partnering with Lake Orian to try and offer training um sessions to our business owners. We have the AI workshop already set for July 14th and that'll be presented through Thrive. Um we have a visual merchandising one. We do have a business owner in downtown Oxford that has said she would be willing to do that. That's kind of like her side gig um outside of her I mean it's part of her business but part
038of her side gig. Um but we're working to try and get her hooked up with Thrive as a consultant so she can be compensated for her time. Um so that's in process for that one. And then um the We're having our new board member who will be um presenting on that as well. Further on the AI thing. Um that's July. Is that a Zoom meeting or what is that? So it'll be in person. Actually, we haven't talked about whether it'll be in Zoom be in Zoom as well, but I know we'll definitely have it in person. It's going to be right here in the community room. Um it's a presenter that's coming in through Thrive. And what time of the day? I mean I know what's 9:30. 9:30. So we'll get that. Uh our intern
039Riley is working on a promo flyer for that with information on how to RSVP and so we'll get that out this week. And just so the board knows too if anyone's interested Bank has a meeting tomorrow Zoom meeting on AI. Oh okay. I got the name here else the email you got it. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's 7:15 or something like that. 7:30 in the morning. Yeah. Very good. Unfinished business crosswalk project. Yes. So, I don't know if Joe wants to say anything, but we are I don't think we have any new news since the last meeting other than uh we Pete and Joe and Paul and I have been in communications around how to proceed. Um the feedback from MDOT The initial piece was that they will not approve um the crosswalk portion of
040the project. So at this point, Joe is reaching out to another contact that uh Oxford has worked with a little closer to see if there's any potential to reconsider reconsider that. So we're waiting to hear back on that. Um we're at a at a bit of a standstill until we hear back from that. Um it was s offered to do a traffic study. Um I think we decided that it it most likely won't help our case if we do a traffic study at this point of the year. Um so I think we'll have to see what the feedback is from MDOT and then we can talk about how we want to proceed with the project. Uh we did get numbers for the project transitioning without the sidewalks um or I'm sorry the crosswalks and just
041focusing on the sidewalk uh repair and reconstruction in certain areas. I believe that the savings was about 15. Yeah. 15 to 17,000. 17,000 savings. It wasn't as much as we were hoping. So, it's still looking at like the high 190s. That was my question. Any other question? So, also I don't know if you have anything to add, but my understanding is forbid. put it in the paper. I put it on our website and it's on our Michigan Mitten advertising out there, but that reaches vendors and construction people all over the state. I haven't checked to see. Usually you can see um plan holders. How many people look at the document stuff? I haven't looked it went out um last Tuesday. I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday last week. I think it's the 30th that
042they're due. Bids are due. I think it's 30th Monday. Couple weeks that'll be out there. Um Rudy and I also met with one of the electricians that we're having to get some pricing on for the redoing of the electrical panel in the park, you know, so it's much it's upgraded for one and more user friendly for uh people like we had an event there last week during our council chambers. The youngsters did the autism awareness event down there and they did of course electricity for their mics and stuff like that. So we have to go and unlock the panel and leave it open so then have access to the power all that stuff. So that's what we're trying to help create and we do that each week too with the concerts. Yeah. The first contract
043to act by this week not next to see what have ideas about cost. Great. Approximately when will this come to fruition? The gazebo project correct? I would imagine it wouldn't happen until after concerts are over. So we have a window between mid August and early October or then after early October. Very good. And then 8 C the painting the black top for the games in Washington Square. Yep. I just wanted to follow back up. I have two artists that have gotten back to me around um painting on the black top and both said that they would do it for no charge. So it would just be a cost for us to paint it. I mean sorry for us to pay. So are we good to move forward? Next, new business. I believe there is none.
044We didn't have any agenda. Number 11 is board member comment. Start all the way down. Um, it's exciting that it feels like all these events and it goes by so fast. So, trying to contact my come out here. It's nice that summer Sundays is right there too that people really looking forward to all the events that past always try to be there myself. Welcome Melissa. Thank you. Happy to have you. Thank you. Same. Welcome Melissa. Thank you. Welcome Melissa. Um, also want to let folks know if you have the chance to go to that gala next year, you should try to make it because it's very, very cool. Um, and it's all different community DDAS and they're all their different uh cheering groups. It's just it's a blast. Um, and it was an honor to
045be there. Thank you. What's up? Welcome. Thank you all for the intro and welcoming for my first board meeting. Excited to be on this side of it. I've been on promo committee for a long time and excited for concerts in the park and the open air market and all of the wonderful things to come. So, it's going to be a fun summer. Welcome. Glad to have you. Yep. That's about it. Hopefully everything comes to fruition in next month go with dealing with MDOT and good report comes back from the gaze bits and everything so we get moving on. So looking forward to getting those underway. That'll help break things up a lot by by the end of the year this year. Definitely there's a lot of stuff coming on and the events coming up. So
046a lot of stuff going downtown. So any board me get a chance to stop in on you know any of the events or you know the market or something just to say hi and show your face and everything appreciate. I'm sure Kim would like to see somebody there support and good job with your staff. They're obviously doing quite well and working on a lot of projects. Um, extend public comment we move for second all the way around. Very good.