001It's six o'clock. I'd like to call to order the uh what's the date today? The June 12th Addison Township zoning board of appeals to order. If we could start with the pledge of allegiance allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Okay. We can start with a roll call, please. Present. Edfield. Tony Spina here. Jay Sandler here. Bill Marshall here. Excuse. Excuse. Yep. Okay. Um, if we could have a motion to approve tonight's agenda. I like that motion. Second. Any discussion? Hearing none. If we could have a roll call vote to approve it. Tony Spina, yes. Jay Sandler, yes. Bill Marshall, yes. Yes. Okay. Next item on the agenda would be a um
002motion to approve the minutes from when when was the last meeting anyways? December something? December 12th. December 12th. 12th. I'll make a motion to approve the minutes for December 12th. I'll second that. Any discussion or changes noted? Okay, hearing no discussion. Uh, if we could have a roll call vote to approve the minutes. Yes. Yes. W. Yes. Jandler. Yes. Yes. All right. Um, first item on the agenda tonight is uh the public hearing on case 25-1. The applicant is Scott and Sarah Baker. Scott. Okay. Scott's here. Okay. Um, the property address is 3170 Indian Lake Road. Parcel ID is 05.31.426.012 zoning as Suburban Farms. And, uh, this is our public hearing again. Um, and the applicant is seeking a non-use dimensional variance for a 42x 72 or a 3,24t square foot frame accessory structure. 200
003f feet and completely in the front yard. Structure begins 128 ft in front of the furthest point of the main building. The variance request is from the township of Addison code of ordinances appendix A zoning article 4 section 4.21.2B. SubB says, "An accessory building located in the R-E or S-E or the S-F district shall meet the minimum yard setback requirements of the district in which the accessory building or structure is located and shall not be located in the front yard." Um, okay, Scott. Um, Baker, is that your understanding of the request you're making? Yep, that's accurate. Okay. Um well, we're going to have our public hearing first and then you can address the board if that's okay. Okay. So, um our next uh step here is to have a motion to open in the uh
004the public hearing to the public. We can have a motion for that. I'll make that motion. I'll second. Okay. Uh roll call vote on the motion. Yes. Tony, yes. Jared Whit, yes. Jay Sandler, yes. Yes. Okay. Um and uh so the public hearing is now open and and this is the time for the public to address the request by the applicant for the zoning uh change. If you could please state your name and uh address please. Uh Joel Kane. I live on Ridgemont Road. I'm directly across the street from uh across Indian Lake Road from Scott and Sarah Baker. And I'm uh I signed letter support of uh their request and if you actually look at the geography of the the landscape it won't be probably visible from the road because of all the trees
005I don't I don't see any impact myself as the nearest neighbor or one of the nearest neighbors that's all okay thank you um anybody else want to make any public comments okay um no one else being present uh if we could have a motion to close the public a hearing on this matter. I'll second it. Okay. Uh, any discussion? Uh, hearing none. If we could have a roll call vote on the motion. Tony Spina, yes. Wit, yes. Bill Marshall, yes. Jay Sandler, yes. Edfield, yes. Okay, motion passes. Okay. Um, Mr. Baker, now is your chance to address the board and we can ask you questions. All right. Are there any questions off that based on what I submitted you? I don't have any questions here. All right. Well, thank I appreciate the opportunity. Um, as
006you indicated, I'm seeking a dimensional non-use variance for the purposes to put a full bar up is what I'm hoping to do. So, um, the way my property is laid out, it is geog as Joel indicated that geographically It drops off behind the house down to a slump. It's about an 18 foot differential over maybe 60 ft. So there's really nowhere behind the house to to build a pool bar. And then in addition to that, it goes into the wetlands. DTV has their overhead wires running behind the house that go to the west to the house to my brother's house, which I actually own as well. Um, so putting anything behind the house would would certainly be a practical difficulty and it's not necessarily a condition that I created. The predecessor uh this is I
007believe my understanding is the third house that's been built on this property. The first house was up real close to the road. It was an old stone basement and then that was torn down and what's by now my front yard. Uh there's an old concrete pad and a depression where I was told that that was the previous house. And then the guy that I bought the house from back in the mid 80s built our current home which sets further back like I said pretty much right up to where the hill drops off down into the swamp. So the this the location that I'm proposing which is Kennedy surveying I noted out there survey that they had prepared for me that's probably the flattest tree spot on my property which would accommodate the structure nicely. Additionally
008as as Joel indicated the if you're familiar with Indian lake road or not in that area but once you get past heading west the drops down. And so this this barn would actually be at that part where the road drops down. So there's it's probably 10 12 feet. The road is so my you know the ground level of my property is probably 10 12 feet above the road. So driving in and out you're not you know you can't see my house. You can't see and then there's also real dense vegetation there. So so I think there'd be uh sufficient screening from from anybody that's just passing by. Initially, as uh I included in the packet, I went to all of my neighbors that can see my property or all my adjacent property owners. I presented
009them what what I proposed to do. Nobody had any objections to all the neighbors signed off the statement that I said that they were in agreement. We didn't have any objections to this project. So I said strict enforcement of the ordinance which includes any sort of structure accessory structure in the fine yard would deprive of us of of our right to have an accessory structure that other residents in the suburban farms district would have been indicated it was not this is not a condition that was created these are natural features of property so it's not something that was created by myself property owner And again, granting this request, request of variance would not have a detrimental impact on the neighbors and that fact they all signed off or signed off on the project. So there
010was one I did get that made the review letter from the township planners. There was one correction to that. It's very minor, but in the first sentence of the first paragraph indicate that the property is located on the south side of Indian Lake Road. I'm actually on the north side for what it's worth. Just wanted to point that out. Be happy to answer any questions. I have one question. What will the accessory building be primarily used for? Uh primarily going to be used to store our camper. We have a fifth wheel that uh it's pretty big. It's 40 43 foot unit and right now it just sits outside and every spring it's just complaining the fence always fixing something because it you know not being able to store it indoors it takes its toll on
011it. So so that's the primary purpose is for the storage of the the RV or the wheel and then we have a punching boat that'll probably be in there and then I've got two young boys and a third one on the way. So, probably lots of toys and fun stuff for that as well. Got it. Um, the zoning is Suburban Farms, which is a 2 acre minimum. I I may have missed it, but I don't see anywhere where you said how many acres your property is. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. This So, this parcel of my 3170 is six acres. Six acres. Okay. Thank you. Um, the house that you live in is It was built in the mid 80s. Yeah. You bought it sometime later. Seven. Okay. Thank you. I have a question. How much
012property you own there? Between the two, it's um about 11 acres. It's about 11 acres between my house and my brother's house. Now, is this building directly in front of your house? No, it's if if you're standing in my house, it' be off to the right in between the two houses, but in the front yard directly in front of my house is probably a 80 foot pine tree. So there's nothing and I'm not typ typically we uh you know between now and the next meeting some of us may come out to look at the property. Is is there any indication on the property where the building will be? Do you have stakes out or some kind of Yes. So, there are there are some stakes, but if you come to the property, if you come
013up my driveway, uh you'll see that the driveway kind of connects to my brother's house. Go left there. That would be the site. It'd be pretty evident that it's it's, you know, flattened out. There's some stakes there. You may have just answered the question, but uh one of the things you you've submitted says that this part of your propert about a year and a half ago. Yeah. Yeah. So, I actually did a boundary line, property line adjustment to kind of accommodate this structure. Um, I initially I thought I would put it on my the parcel that my brother lives on, but then I started thinking more about I was like, well, the plan is long term sometime someday as well to buy that from us and I don't want necessarily buy the house that you're
014in right now. No, no, the house that he's at 3180 is Yeah. You said earlier that you owned that property as well, correct? Yeah, we bought that in 200 I think it was 12 years. Good. Good. Um, do you have any questions, Ed? No. Any more questions? Okay, I'm good. Any more questions? Okay. All right. Um, okay. Um, I do have one question out of curiosity. Plus, is it going to be to your brothers? It's um well, it's going to be to the new property line. It's 15 foot setback. I've got it tucked right up pretty much to the setbacks is where I'm proposing two gets housed probably. Thank you. Okay. Okay. That all right. Um, that would conclude. Uh, I guess I got one I got one other question before we Is there on
015the application? Is there a phone number we can reach you if we want to make a I can give it to you right now. If you want grab a pen. If you would prefer to be there when we are here, we'll call you to do that. And we will not go as a group. It'll be individual. Yeah, you're more than welcome to to look at property. We don't need somebody to if you don't want to or you don't need Go ahead. Right. It's 586 9091126 11126 11126 Okay. Okay. That would close our discussion with the applicant for tonight. And just for you know, we don't make decisions tonight. It'll be at our next meeting in July that we make a decision on your request. Um the decision should be made based on the record and
016all the questions and information you provided us. And uh uh so we'll we'll move forward from there. Um this all we have for tonight and I guess uh that would close this part of the your agenda item. Um, okay. Any other thoughts or comments from the board? If we can move on to the public forum for any other comments regarding the ZBA anybody want to make any comments to the the board on this or any other matter. Okay, nobody being present. We'll go to other business which would be uh a correspondence received. Uh, anybody receive any correspondence with respect to the zoning board? Okay. uh subsection or part B would be zoning board reports any reports we got to give to anybody we've received nothing uh C would be report of the planning commission leaison
017who is our leaison now that uh we don't have one at this point no we don't have one okay since All right so I guess we got to I don't know I don't know whether Eric's been replaced on the planning commission or not I haven't heard yeah I I don't remember if I have either there is a new planning commission person, but I don't know. Oh, is there I can't remember his name right now. Yeah, I don't remember either, but definitely he'd be leasing, right? Maybe he'll I got to get with him. Um, okay. So, I guess the next thing is a motion for adjournment. I'll make a motion to adjurnn. I'll second it. Phil. Okay. Okay. Any questions or comments? Just give it to Phil. Okay, Phil. All right, Phil. So, okay. Uh, uh,
018all in favor say I. I. I oppose. Okay, motion passes. We're concluded.