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Addison Township Regular Board Meeting: April 21st, 2025

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YouTube / Oxford Community Television
Date
2025-04-22
Location
Oakland County, MI
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Transcript
Extent
4,124 words · about 23 min
Collected
2026-06-30

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001Well, welcome to the Addison Township Board uh meeting tonight. Tonight is uh April 21st, 2025 at 6 o'clock and located at the uh Addison Township offices at 1440 Rochester Road. We have roll call. Oh, no. We'll do pledge first, please. Okay, Ed, you're our veteran. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Stay standing, please. Dear Lord, we stand before you this afternoon, one day after the holiest day, Easter. As we thank Jesus for his sacrifice for our sins, we gather together to ask for you to guide us as we make a decisions in your honor. Now, please be with the Pope's family and and I hope everything goes well with the

002transition. In the Lord's name we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Okay, roll call, please. Trusty Greenfield. Yes. Trusty Garrick here. Trusty Gallal here. Trusty Frost here. Treasure McDonald here. Bennett present. Supervisor Pearson here. All accounted for. Okay. Let's go to uh department reports as usual. Always available in my office. Any petitions? No. Okay. Approval of the agenda. We did have something late come in and it is sensitive for Kingsberry Country Day School Fair. If we could add that to the agenda, would that be on a consent agenda? No, because it didn't come in in time. So, we have to do a number four. I'll make a motion to approve the agenda with the addition of Kingsbury. I'll second. Didn't get any paperwork on that at all. It was just one page. Well, it's the same

003as it's the same as every year then, right? Okay. They want the one day liquor license. Okay. And so that was to be added, Abby. Item number four. Is that correct? Okay. Okay. Did somebody have a motion already? Yep. And we had a second. And no discussion. Roll call, please. Yes. Linda Garrick, yes. Yes. Frost, yes. Mike McDonald, yes. Bennett, yes. Supervisor Pearson, yes. Okay, we'll move on to consent agenda. Yes. We have along with tonight. The approval of the March 17th, 2025 minutes, the approval of the March 2025 invoices. Approval of the 750 for Porter John's um for the Strawberry Festival. Approval of the 2025 Oxford Addison Youth Assistant sponsorship funds for of 5500. Affirm approved partners and architect agreement not to exceed $13,54560 with up to $600 in reimburseable. Affirm and approve assessor

004assistant hourly rate of $4721 for the fiscal budget year. Okay. If there's no comment, I'd like to make a motion to approve the consent agenda as written. I have a comment. Yes. Just typos. Uh 1 C approval of the 750. Can we make sure there's a dollar sign in that instead of 750 for John's? Um and then What was the other one? Oh, that's all. Thank you. So, what was the actual what was the the typo error that was on? I made the motion to approve the section with that one change. Okay. Any other discussion? We have one motion, but we didn't have a second, did we? I don't think I'll second. Okay, Mary seconds. Any other further discussion? Not hearing. Can we have roll call, please? Karen G, yes. Mary Frost, yes. Lindy Garrick,

005yes. Ed, yes. McDonald, yes. Bennett, yes. Supervisor Pearson, yes. Okay, move on to item number two. [Applause] My recommendations for the appointments um for the planning commission uh that term is January 31st uh until January 31st, 2028 is Derek Musgrove who lives on uh Shupe Road. And then uh for the ZBA, Oliver uh Pommanoski Pommanaki uh as an alternate two for the ZBA and that would expire on March 30th, 2028 and the board of review as an alternate uh first of all to uh bring Tony Spina from the alternate position up to a full position and to uh appoint Dino Skolas. as an alternate which that would expire on December 31st, 2026. If you'd like to know a little bit about each but each person, I can tell you about it. But these are my

006recommendations. Any questions? Tony Spina wasn't ultimately for Yes. And so who's the Dino? Uh he lives up on Gravel Ridge on Lakeville Lake and um he's a semi-retired builder and so he's very knowledgeable on houses, what the values are, things like that. But he would be the alternate. That's for the board of review. Um I I brought everybody in and I I had long conversations with them and um I wanted to know what their opinions were and different things like that. And Oliver um he is a building uh inspector in Orient Township and um he comes highly recommended and um I think he is very extremely knowledgeable. Um uh and he would be um he grew up first of all on a cattle farm out in Colorado out in the middle of nowhere. They moved

007to Oakland Township and um um they lived there, but because it's building up so fast, they then moved up to Addison to be in a more rural atmosphere. So um and I like that very much. Um and then uh Derek Musgrove, he is a gentleman that lives on Shupe Road and um he's retired out of the Air Force. Uh and his last place where he lived was North Dakota. and he lived in a rural atmosphere and um that's his wife was from Michigan here but he was in charge of building and safety for the air force uh when they built anything and he coordinated with the cities and villages wherever they were at. And so he's very knowledgeable and he is a country boy at heart. If you remember there a while ago he uh

008he came and uh he uh asked us if we could fix up Shupe Road. So, we got the road commission over there and they built up the road and they fixed it and um he helped us do that with the road commission. So, he's very knowledgeable. I was very impressed and I have their resumes extremely um lengthy both of them. So, anyways and and they're younger. Okay. So, it it feels um they're not old like us. Okay. So, for yourself. Speak speak for yourself. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying that. Yeah, speak for yourself. I'm looking for younger people. Okay, Bruce, I'll make that motion and we accept your appointments for the planning commission, uh, ZBA and board of review. Okay, so we have a motion and we have support. Any comments? Not hearing any. I

009think we can all just vote on those. Everyone in favor of that say I. I. Anyone opposed? The eyes have it. Thank you. Okay. Move on to item number three. So I can find what I did with that. Item number three, uh, the interlocal agreement for Oxford Area Cable Communications Commission. Uh, uh the interlocal agreement for the uh Oxford uh cable uh was uh first of all as a funding request uh also that's going to be part B I guess um the interlocal was reviewed and approved by uh Bob Davis our attorney um uh and all I need to know is does the board have any questions on this I um that's pretty much we do this all the time I could just make a comment on that because I helped with this since I'm

010on the Yes. This is the same agreement that we've had in place the last 10 I think it was a 10-year contract. Yeah. And the only language that was added that is that if uh a township or community isn't up to date on their fees, they can have their board representation suspended until their fees are paid up to date. Um that was the only thing we had. That makes sense. Okay. Well, there's only four communities, right? Oxford, Leonard, village of Oxford and us, right? Okay. Yes. I uh I don't question the intent of the change. However, I think it would be better uh listed under the representatives rather than the um it's just my opinion, but it just seems more in place with and more pertinent to the representative section, then the actual description of

011what the cable commission can and can't do. It just kind of is dovetailed in there, but it I think it's a a condition of uh responsibility that's better nitpicky, but I think it's you're talking about on seven. Yeah, those are the conditions for representatives. The this condition pertains to representation. I think it has to go back to the others who already well I defer to learned our learned council. I mean there was a community in the past that was behind a lot and um they still had board representation there which is good but It was just there was no leverage for the the commission. It wasn't us. It was behind, was it? It wasn't us. No, it was it was point the finger at somebody else. So, and if you if you look if you

012look at the budgets in 23, we only received three payments from the cable commissions, I mean from the cable uh providers. In 24, we had five. They added they the one they missed came late and so it pushed back in the village and I was there. I was familiar with it. So we had to do our audit was held up until we got that fixed. Yeah. And it took a while and uh yeah I I thought it was inconvenient. I didn't realize it was rose to the level that it has and I'm a little disappointed about that but it I don't have a problem with the language. So it was a paperwork issue. Well, and that wasn't the village's fault. Yeah, everybody's up to date as far as I know as of our last meeting

013with needs and stuff. So, I don't really foresee it being an issue. It was just something that knowing that that this is only reviewed every 10 years. It was just something that the board wanted to address. We had a committee that met, it was the only suggestion. It was reviewed by the cable commission's attorney. I was reviewed by everybody else's attorneys. So, that was it. I like Were you changing the words at all or just the location? just the location because I think it already went to the others since the verbiage is okay. I respect what you're saying. Maybe the next time they can stick it somewhere else, but um I'm going to go ahead and make a motion um to approve the interlocal agreement for the Oxford area cable commission communication commission and authorize

014the supervisor to sign. I'll support. Okay, we have a motion and support. Any further discussion on this? We're not hearing any. Could we have roll call on that, please? Yes. Mayor Frost, yes. Yes. Mike McDonald. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay, that passes. Now, the part B of this is a funding request for OCTV. Uh we have a letter from OCTV manager requesting all the cable funds for a period of time apparently to a due due to a loss of revenue. Uh currently I believe it's uh 3.5 to cable 3.5 to the township including including uh included is the 2% mandatory peg fees to the cable. Um uh and I think that's in court or whatever. Uh Terry Styles is here and I I think she'd like to explain briefly to the board why they need the

015money. So what? Yes. Um so people are changing from cable, AT&T, Comcast and um Charter I I want to say Charter Spectrum. They're changing from traditional cable to streaming, which cuts our revenue because streamers are not being charged the franchise fees, which are your rights of way free fees. Um, there was a bill that ran through the House last year and it stalled in the Senate to identify streamers as not a a video delivery service. If that went through, then Comcast, Charter, and AT&T would have said, "Okay, if they don't have to pay for rights of ways, they're using the same telecommunication lines, then we won't have to." If that would have happened, we'd be out of business in two years. If it goes through, so now that it's stalled in the Senate, now they're

016rewriting language to a bill that's already been approved to identify streamers as a video delivery service. and to possibly charge I think 50 cents is what they're talking about. I don't know what it would come out to, but it could take up to two years for that to be passed. If it doesn't pass, we're still done. If it passes, then we'll be able to stay alive with or without the half franchise fees, half cable fees. In short, if you have any other questions, I could go around. So, the temporary request for full correct between one to two years. And so I'd also like to say we cover about 300 events a year. We have three programs right now that are Addison Township um feature. One is called the view from the top. We feature all

017the leaders in the community. We also feature Oxford leaders as well. Um, another one is called senior moments where we have Marie May and then um the parks and recer event organizer for Oxford and they do a program on a bionly basis and then the third one's called your backyard and that's strictly at this township and then we also include all your meetings all the coverage for the schools which is all your residents kids. So, um, we're pretty busy and we hate to give that up. If we lose our franchising fees, um, you won't even have your meetings covered, unfortunately. What would the What would the dollar amount be or an estimated dollar amount be for if we get um, if we chose to give you the full amount, it would be an additional 20,000.

018Um, Addison Township brought in 40 from the providers and that was split in half. So, we got 20. So, it'll be additional 20. 40. Okay. About there. Yeah. Somewhere around there. Probably less because people are dropping off cable. True. We lost 40,000 last year from that altogether. And across the board, I was at a meeting last week of all um public access station managers and across the board 20% every year. On the other hand, the township would lose 20,000. How many meetings or how many um things do you record for Edison? Every year it's different. Um dollar-wise, I figure including what we do for the schools, which are also representative of Pson Township. Dollar-wise, last year we put out about 60,000. How many uh meeting or meetings or events? Gosh, I'd say about 42 um

019meetings and events and people that we cover. We also do a program called My Life. So, we come out and cover individuals. There's many authors in this community. We cover theirs or we promote their events. We promo uh events for the fire department. They asked us to do a demonstration video for them. And we also promote Leonard for hometown. We do it's different every year. So about 40 a year. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. To I know the answer, but can you just for the board's um education um do all the other communities that are um into the OCTV, do they pay full franchise fees? The township of Oxford does. Leonard pays peg fees. Um and the village of Oxford just increased from 50% to 75 and last week I asked them to do the full

020franchises for a year to two years. Um they are discussing that in their budget workshop meeting and I will know at the next meeting and all three by the way have some inner local. So all four have now thank you. Is it 40 meetings plus when you come and record here locally is or is that included in your 40? No. 24 meetings, maybe more on top of other events and stuff that goes on out here between the three programs that we do a year and then the people that we cover individually. So it costs like $1,000 um an event. It's about $500. So if we have a crew of three, say concerts, and I'm talking concerts, plays, sporting events, it's a good 500 to 6 700 because it's not only I'm paying mileage, I'm paying

021each individual. Then they have to process that, which is editing time, and then some I have to pay somebody to get it on the air. So it runs anywhere between 500 and a thousand depending on the event. like a parade. It's probably our most costly event. Okay. So, just so it's clear, OCTV services beyond covering meetings here does a lot with like the school system. Would you say it's the majority is done with the school system as far as covering sports and graduations and things like that? individual students and their accomplishments and their whatever clubs that they've got going on like a Lego club etc. We do a lot we do a lot with this and now like the OCTV is starting to get involved with the education part of high school as far as

022training do video training for their students and they're creating a partnership with the students in the school. Yes. And then next year we're in the fall we're hoping to start a program that the children or the students will be our camera people which will save us money number one but number two they will be earning credits for their class and they that will also include them as an intern. So I only saying this out loud because I had a hard time understanding how OCTV benefits as township as opposed to Oxford. But when you think about the kids in as the township that attend Oxford schools, that's a large part of it beyond coming to the meetings and covering right basics. So we do every single concert that any one of the schools have including out

023here from you know kindergarten or first grade I think is plus we do tours for the schools um whenever they want to bring their kids in. We do quite a bit. We're pretty busy all the time. Go back. Go ahead. I was Does the school contribute anything? No, it's the parents that contribute the franchise fees. There's some for the students. In the past, uh, we've only contributed half of these fees. What do we do with our half that we keep? It goes into the general fund, if I may. It goes into the general fund budget, you know. Yeah, annually when we create our budget. I mean this is nothing new. You guys the the cable commission comes every couple years asking for all the money always. So what would you have done if we had

024given you all the money before? Um what have you done as far as um probably would have a larger general fund. Right now we've got about 100,000 in our general fund that I borrowed from to um balance our budget from last year. What what has a cable? I mean, if if if the revenues are going down, if my revenues are going down, then I make, you know, decisions to to cut back on either the salaries or the staff or the events. What is the cable company doing now? What have you done in the past? Cut down on staff. I had cut down on programs. Well, it cut meetings basically. I think what Bill what um Vers is asking is Terry didn't take a salary increase this year and the raises for the employees were very

025low. So she's already I think that's what you're asking. I I don't want to speak for Terry, but I don't want to short you either because I think it's pretty amazing that you said I'm not going to take a raise because I'd rather have the money. I'll just say for the record that Terry does a really good job with the budget. Um she's been she makes cuts. She's not doesn't have any wasteful spending and she's very above board with the board. Um, and I'll just add and because I kind of have a close connection to the board here with my knowledge. So I I just would like to bring up the budget. So we just recently passed a budget and part of it and it's in your consent agenda. We have unl unallocated funds in

026community develop development of $18,259. So it it's almost right from this account pays for what we might be expending to OCTV. Um I do really like OCTV mainly because of your involvement with the youth. Um the youth does need a lot of um care and I'd like how you record all of their events. You're there all the time. Um, with that, I'm going to make a motion to approve the township cable revenue to be issued in full to OCTV for a period not to exceed 24 months with with the township reserving the right to revisit this motion and the allocation. Furthermore, the township revers reserves the right to also revisit the allocation amount if the litigation is resolved earlier. I'll support. Okay, we have a motion and we have support. Does anybody have any comments?

027Well, you talked when you're talking about the the money for later. Are you talking about because when in lancing they will figure it out? Is that the the money? No, they're in court right now. If if they lose their court case, there will there this will not happen. Correct. They won't. But if they win their court case, the motion is to say, "We want you back here, and we're probably going to be doing a different allocation." It might go back to the 50/50. So the motion is very clear during your troubled times up to two years. Okay, that's what I was wondering. Okay, we're going to help you, but after that, it's coming back. And if the litigation ends, let's say the litigation ends in eight months from now, it's going to come back to

028the board. Okay, because then they don't need this additional money, right? But what if they what if it fails? What if it what if they don't get a new bill before the House? What if the litigation either isn't resolved or it fails? The motion covers the motion would still come back to us and then we would say we're not helping anymore or we would say as long as those are conditions for reopening I I'm okay. very clear in here up to 24 months and then we have reserved the right to revisit this motion and the allocation that's at any time and then if the judgment takes if it's done quicker we're going to come back at it quicker I just have one thing to say that when you giveth you're not going to taketh away

029okay so just understand that because the county the the co the commission has been here many many times asking for the full amount and if we give and I'm just saying I'll be the advocate but once you giveth I don't think they're ever going to come back and say we don't want it anymore I couldn't make if we're going to go down that road I could not make that motion to fund them forever I couldn't do it so I don't know how everybody else feels because no because then we're we're funding them forever this is just because they are establish lished. Give them a chance to survive. If they don't survive, that's it. That's my opinion. That's You already know my vote. No, if you don't survive this, I'm a No. I understand. I understand.

030This is Ed Con. He's our chair, by the way. Uh, good evening. I just wanted to uh comment. Um, I've been on the board for a number of years now. Um, and I've been the chair for probably the last what, five, six years. And uh Terry and her crew, our staff, they do an incredible job of managing the budget and uh controlling their expenditures and such. And you know, I've talked to I live in Oxford, so um I have had conversations with the leadership in Oxford in the past in regards to what the perception the communities have towards the TV station. Do they find it relevant? Do they find it necessary to keep? And you know, tonight you supported the interlocal, so I'm guessing you support the fact that the TV station does exist. And

031uh I think what Terry's trying to do is do whatever it takes to keep the t TV station viable and keep it operating until whatever bills are passed through the Michigan legislature in the next 12 to 18 to 24 months. And if it doesn't go our way, then this is all mute anyway because it'll be just the station's going to go away. Uh the funding won't be sufficient. Um the township of Oxford uh supports us with full funding and if we didn't have that, I don't know how the station could survive as it is anyway. Uh Oxford has been willing to provide full funding all the years I've been on the board and um and the TV station again what do the uh residents of the communities how do they feel about it? I you

032know before I got on the board I didn't have too much input or too much uh relationship with the TV station. I had cable but I you know now I have a granddaughter in school and she can get involved in all this stuff. Now I'm watching her on TV. So the when somebody asks what benefits does the school provide they provide the kids that's what they provide and the TV station does a lot of work with the schools and various uh sporting events and the various activities and okay so forth. We we did hear that already right and and they do a lot of that. I I understand you're a grandparent and your kids in school, you want to watch it or you're a parent, you want to watch it. Okay. Okay. We we heard

033that we were just point of order. Can we call the question? Well, it's a board discussion right now. Pardon? Board discussion right now. Right. But yeah, I mean, you know, uh I'm not trying to I I understand, but we're regurgitating exactly what we've already heard. They do work hard. We agree. Okay. Um, so does the anybody on the board have any questions? And this is to Mike, I guess, or both of you. Did do we have allocation in our budget that we've just put together to cover the cost of 100%. I just noted that we have 18,000 extra in community development. So that's where it would come from. Is that money that we were going to use for a playground? That's already in the budget. No, I I think we'll have income. We will receive

034franchise fees from three entities. We'll receive peg free peg fees from only one. So, if we say that we're going to allocate our franchise fees, which will probably be lower than they currently are, that's where the money will come from. where we spend it. We might have to use the other money that's in community development to backfill in if if needed. Right. Karan 20. So that's 20,000. We don't have a a home for the community development. Now it's been there. But unallocated funds in community development 18,250. It's cush it's cushion money basically for for that category, right? Any other comments? Yes. I'll stand by my motion to call the question. Right. It's not a motion. My point of order. Okay. Roll call. Ed, yes. Mary Frost, yes. Karen Gall, yes. Linda Garrick, yes. McDonald, yes.

035Bennett, yes. Supervisor Pearson, I'll say yes. Uh, thank you. My comment is don't come back to us though right after this and ask for the same thing. I did not ask your manager for five years. I will It sounds like in two years she'll be coming back anyway. I I know. Okay. Item number four, I guess, is um item number four is for Kingsbury. I guess they uh want to um have their 66th annual Kingsbury Country uh fair on Sunday, June 8th, 2025 from noon to 5. Uh it'll take place on their campus and um uh they have a one-day liquor license and that comes from the liquor control commission. So we've always allowed them to have their uh fair. I don't think this is any different. They We're missing the We're missing the liability

036insurance, right? Um yes, I agree. We always do it, but it would have to be contingent upon receiving the liability insurance. And I think at some of these contingent things, we should put a time frame because sometimes it gets really close to a deadline and I'm getting really nervous. So, it would be nice to when we start doing the contingent to put a time frame on. It's not just for them a time frame on the contingent May 31st. Let's say uh within 10 days they have they have their uh liability insurance uh to us 10 days of the event. No, 10 days from now. Okay. And she is working on it. I'll make a motion to approve the request for the Kingsbury Country Fair pending the certificate of liability being provided within 10 days. Yeah,

037I got yours as additional. We're going to be additional insured. Yeah. And the township has additional insured. Thank you. Okay. Do we have a second? Ed seconded. Any further comments? Not hearing any. Could we have a roll call, please? Mary Frost, yes. Karen Gel, yes. Linda, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Supervisor, yes. And that passes. Okay. The last thing we got, public forum. Anybody in the public would like to uh speak? Anybody in the public? Not hearing anyone. We'll move on to Addison board reports. Anybody on a board have something to report. Boy, you guys are quiet. What's I can let you know that enter on the stove or something or No. Oh, Linda. Linda. Oh, Linda. I just want to let you know the planning commission did hold public hearings on uh April 8th for

038uh four ordinance amendments or changes, I should say. Okay. Anybody else? Uh they canled SISMA. Uh so there's been nothing further on that. Okay. And they also cancelled the materials management uh meeting. So I'm waiting to hear a new date. I think there is a new date, but I I'm not I can't recall what it is that's coming up. Okay. How about uh any communications? Legal? nothing supervisor's report. All I got to uh add is um we do have spring cleanup and it is uh May 10th, which is a Saturday before Mother's Day. I've notified the deputies are making a list. They're going around and um trying to find all the couches and everything um that are on the side of the road so that I can go with the some of the volunteers and

039we'll go pick up all the junk. And I ask the citizens if they'll also call in uh to uh Jamie, the deputy uh supervisor, so she can keep a list going. And if you see anything, please let us know because I go around and uh Mike McDonald helps me. We go around with our trailer and we pick up all the junk, okay, ahead of time. So, uh we've been really good at it, uh apparently because uh the last several years, knock on wood. I'm not finding any more mattresses or couches or uh car parts or whatever. Generally uh the township it must have made a difference because you know when you find one couch a day later you found three more. You know now um we just don't let them find those couches. So anyways

040um if anybody can make a list other than that that's all I have. Uh I will say that you know we've had a few uh rainstorms and this and that and we've been doing pretty good on the electricity which is great and we don't have the flooding problems that everybody else has because I was just at the supervisor's meeting uh which included all of Mcome County and Oakland County and of course they're downstream from us so they have the flooding problem so we're on high ground so we're good good shape. So that's all I have to add. So, I'd be looking for a motion for adjournment. I'll make that motion to adjurnn. And we have support. All those in favor say I. I. Anyone opposed? We're adjourned. Our next meeting, May 19th, 6 o'clock.

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