001stand the flag of the United States of America and to the for it stands one nation under indice we ask for guidance so that we may take that we may make fair and decisions for the people in the village of Earth [Applause] here West Morland here noaker here SWAT here D here have an approval of the agenda the agenda technically has not changed from last on the last meeting anybody would make I would make a motion to approve the agenda I'll support all in favor I I any opposed hearing none motion passes approval of the minutes have few minutes look the minutes wonder if we could have a motion to approve the minutes I'll make a motion to approve the minutes from the September 19th meeting do we have support I'll support um all in
002favor all opposed heing none motion do we have we have one member in the audience our new president do you have any business that you'd like to put in front of the no I'm just here to see how you guys go about doing business I don't know anything about it and I thought there might be people on here I don't know I don't know you hi I'm Ka Westland I thought you were West Morland I was looking at I I know everybody but West Morland you new president of the council okay [Applause] u under number item number two is Planning Commission business um Planning Commission officer reassignments as of today I don't believe we have anybody who has offered to be the president or the chairperson of Planning Commission um so if we can have
003a motion to elect me if it is your wishes to elect me again as a temporary a protown president or chair should say chairperson chairperson for this meeting I would like to nominate Jennifer swack as president protm um for this meeting and until the next meeting one is decided do we have a second second all in favor I any opposed um I did not vote because I thought it was have a conflict of interest can we do a roll call on that okay um um ZM yes swag hold on okay noaker yes Mor yes does that give us a yes call vote motion passes yes I understand just to make sure there's no conf all right great okay um item 2B would be sidewalk projects or a plan update uh we have a meeting on
004Tuesday right yes um and that was to officially obtain or is this questions about any questions related to obtaining the little sliver of property I think that's going to be part of the discussion correct it's part of it it's part of it okay was there what was the was it sidewalk stuff or was it just well it it happened that little slice what's going to free up the area of the easement for the sidewalk to let us go through without getting close to the road and kind of make it continuous things like that we have no sidewalk projects at this time right we do not although I um the budget was just rebooted and um the other older monies that are in the community development block grant are going to go away and what we'll
005be left with is uh 2023 and 2024 we'll have $7,000 in um minor home repair and $7,000 in remove architectural barriers we can apply remove architectural barriers to connectivity if we could make a connection somewhere to allow for like flow of traffic um and then we can do it and we could use that money but we'll just have to be careful about how we do it should we is there any time with it on that cash we need to use it fast and we need to use it up and that's really what they're saying now is um the way it works before we could do a lot of little small projects if somebody needed better you give $1,000 here and a little bit there you can just kind of nibble away at these little small
006accounts now you must take the whole thing or half and you can only use it in in two chunks they don't want it reprogrammed so like I said we're we starting kind of with a moderately Clean Slate where we only have it hangover ahead 2023 and 2024 but they will dictate how it's used up but I don't think it's going to be an issue if we can apply some of that money to what we have ahead of us we'll use that all up and then perhaps what we could do is we could apply something from another budget somewhere else to do the rest of it yeah I'm just looking so we have a a deadline on that to make sure that we get plenty of time so we I'm I'm hoping that like that's a
007conversation with you guys maybe you can take that to the park committee and let them know that if there's something that it could be combined and they could get started this spring summer or fall really be advantageous for us to use up that money okay that season because then we won't do any work after that and then it will be a carryover yeah there's got there's got to be a lot of little places that we can fill that there's a lot of little places that we kind of came up with before remember 306 of little pieces at the church there's a lot of little things that can be done the problem was Don was injured he wasn't able to do the work um now I think perhaps maybe if he's recovered that's something that you
008know our next meeting we could have conversation about is what one with the Planning Commission like to see tackled okay what's the best use of the budget because it's not huge get it done you know it would be nice to know a little bit on cost that way we could almost I mean even if we had an estimate to maybe like an estimate per so many feet something like that that way you can look at it cuz there's like you said the one by the church over here is a larger section between it is a larger section and I wouldn't want to say okay we're going to do that one plus seven others and then that one gets correct and perhaps prioritize like like who thinks of the four places that we had kind of
009talked about what's going to get the most walking traffic that's going to be helpful now there's a lot of them that we can do so don't get too excited Katie because I know because she is she's our our resident Walker ofed yeah so there there's like approved Parcels that um it makes it easier um to approve them if they're like well-worn pants right because then if they're well-worn pants then we're not worrying about disturbing anything and having to go through like historical um places and having to go through architectural things to get things done it makes it a little bit like easier for us so there is that one spot that is it 306 am I saying it wrong you are 306 okay it's the one toward the school on the on the other side
010they they used to have dogs that would bark at me all the time when I would go over I don't know if they do but there's two little disconnect they have smaller dogs now they're not the same they folks you know that's so I mean it's up that's something what do you guys think I think we should definitely put a plan together because if the money needs to be used I want something that we can just go okay it's fast to give so we need to find prices we need to you've done this before haven't you no I mean what's the what's the methodology for that I was going to say should we ask Don let's just ask Don yeah that way he can kind of I I would like to kind of priority some
011of these spots there especially if they're an accident yes you know if they're trip absolutely get those first can some of those be shaved or they have to be filled uh yeah they can be shaved of them can be that's that's a machine that's we don't have I don't no we don't but okay yeah you're right but yes safety would probably be first connectivity and traffic would be those are all prior and then we would need wood for the forms you know cuz we don't have to put forms maybe we have it maybe we don't cement and he probably can't use the same forms whatever that base layer is and then and then labor okay cuz then after that it would be kind of maybe measuring the areas cuz we don't have any measurements on
012these areas we haven't called out we don't know how big they are to know is this one a th000 is this one box might have something relatively close because I did have to give them a oh an amount so I I think I used one of the programs that you know even have talked about you use it sometimes in real estate too to kind of estimate what we were looking at like for the project for how many feet we were looking at and I know your new um we may not all have the same um sheet that I'm looking at right here which I'm looking at one color but I'll get the I'll get this for you then and just email it over even if I have to scan the whole thing in it's technically
013I guess Leslie would probably have this too would she yes all right so I got to that way we can make it part as the master plan it just somehow put it in there and get it to a spot that's a little bit more common for everybody cuz she's lot there's lots of pictures and stuff like that there you can yeah okay so I yeah just putting a I don't know if we need a motion for that probably not cuz there's nothing to present at this time so right now it's still kind of an information gathering right but it's a good time it's spring soon as the ground is thought and ready to go he can start working correct I do think it's kind of funny that you have to no no no don't let
014me just replace that switch on your furnace we're going to have to give you the furnace cuz we have to use all just stupid I can help 10 people instead like one person one or two thank goodness I mean not thank goodness but things are so expensive sometimes by the time you put the labor in it anyway I think last time we helped a resident with a furnace few years ago we CH the whole thing there was there's nothing left oh my gosh I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to survive that way just too much money yeah okay any other comments thoughts verid projects black money are we sit in um 7,000 in remove architectural barriers which is what would be used toward sidewalks 7,000 in minor home repair which is to help local actually
015$6,000 because I did do a small project for um a local resident so um yes the guards the they look good I I check them all the time I don't know if she's checking but I'm checking the reason I'm ask you that is is after we we get to the into the park foundary with the sidewalk at that point we have to have a connector to Bas the street that part of the side you're going to have to get money from somewhere to do that it's not a seven Grand isn't going to get you very far anyway with when you're talking subit I think we would be using the park money for that we do have a generous benefactor kind of helped us out with the park so outside of the park but that's a
016connector to the park so but it's part of the park plan as a whole is it not or is that considered outside of the the plan was drawn up with making sure that there's room for uh the sidewalks it's an easement there for oh it's necessarily put so it's going to show where where it can go uh technically it still is on Village property the sidewalks okay correct sure because it's the right way okay the nle with that um because of the cost right now with what the the pro the full project cost on the the park is yet to be seen okay I I believe in in sher's the quest that she was strict about what she wanted to see the money go toward what the money was not to go toward and you
017know she really wanted it to go into making the park something that everybody could enjoy um maintenance of the park things like that but um I'm wondering if that would be considered part of the overall like making the park something that's usable I I don't know this hering must available to review just to make sure that we're following what needs to be probably it's probably somewhere I just um I like you said the previous administration probably had it I remember I remember have a conversation about it but um maybe that she was specific i' want to make sure we follow it correct just assume yeah yeah she was like totally against side prob hate those right to find no there's there's drawings within drawing that will have a well because you have an ex entrance
018and an exit basically is and that's where the sidewalk is going to go across so I mean it's going to connect to the uh the park itself because of the parking situation right uh and it makes it easier to walk there to get in right I mean it kind of almost makes it like an incomplete project if we're going to be like going to be like that and say okay now we've done this work at the park we've added a parking lot we put curbs in we did all these things but oh nope we're not going to do this one little section it does seem unusual but I don't know I guess it's something for you guys to talk about it your thing and I it's been so long since I've looked at the um
019Rose's proposal for what they were going to do I mean you're kind of your brain in there all the time yeah is that part of that is it I've got uh another breakdowns of what we're talking about be forets here yeah you're talking about po you know from so it's this you talking about this section right here well this yeah this be pan section oh I got okay yeah this is po right here so we're technically this little chunk that little junk is now will be become part of yep the the part okay but yeah see theyve drawn in yeah they drew in sidewalks sidewalks for it so that was an assumption of something I have to go through the oh work work orders and see if that was what they included in the pricing
020and and the amounts and stuff like that I can I'll do that um get back with you on that okay yeah you would like I said that kind of helps out and knowing yeah your question you know it's going to be quite a quite a deal just to get it to where I know that she wanted it to be available to people correct and we wanted to make sure that includes handicap that's where the the price goes up because of what has to be done and you know here's the thing too though we have no choice just because of accessibilities in the ada8 act and I think it's just as like citizens of the planet just wanted to do the right thing for people of all abilities so it seems to me like and I
021think that you know knowing Sherry she would have wanted that too oh yeah for sure all right if I can say something I was looking at those plans again and it looks like we could put the approach into that parking lot at the same time we do the sidewalks I my only thing be done before the paving project yeah is they will know what kind of equipment needs to come in to do the pathway around there it's got to be dug up so I mean yeah we we it would give us better access to for heavy equipment yeah if we had that approach you if yeah if it depending on how heavy the stuff is got to be coming in I don't I don't want to see it broken up that's I think that's it
022too I think that yeah we'll be careful with that and definitely want to keep an eye on that for sure right if nothing else they put some slag in or something like that yeah they can make the under uh of it make it solid enough that they can get larger vehicles in as needed mhm um so but that's we're a little bit down the line on that it's fun to think about though to see to kind of throw it out there because like you said there is a repaving project that has to happen there is the sidewalks that you know so it is good to at least get it out there and start thinking about it so I mean this plan even talks about redoing what needs to be redone with the poan trail going
023across the road and it's also including restriping of the the road indicating that it's a walkway way so it's all that information is there and then does that follow the question it's really not requested part but that's what needs to have done for safety for one the village and for to get to the the Park yeah so Mak sense it it it entwines several things we just want to make sure it all falls in where it's supposed to and like I said as long as we it just be nice to see the verbage to make sure that we're not doing anything that's against what she would have wanted yeah so like I said more than likely she'd be more than happy with that like I said it continues to connect and big safety yep but
024just want to make sure since the verbage is there okay we'll move on to item 2 C which is master plan review and revision um unfortunately we're still working on it taken forever sorry everybody um Leslie has the files she said she said Judy had a file Judy looked at me silly when I told her she might have a file so me go back to Leslie I know you've been busy I've been sidetracked myself and what needs to happen is I need to get Leslie call her up and just bring her coffee or Donuts or something like that sit there and go over some of the stuff just to learn how to use the program that she used I don't know what she used um I do have a village laptop that has nothing else
025on it so I think she said the files were huge huge she's because she used to do computer stuff so she's super Savvy she does and um but that's the only laptop that I have with nothing I think she's got that the fancy Adobe program that does all the really cool stuff that's how she was able to like create the maps and everything I don't think the village computer could handle it you know I wouldn't plug it I wouldn't plug it into that you know I might be able to make up a drive T yeah Linda kind of did the same thing didn't she yeah Side Drive that I use on my stuff okay so I can take it offline and stuff that's a resource I have know and I don't know what he's talking
026about so you must be I da with that stuff I built computers and stuff I so I dabble with it but okay yeah I just come across a neat little article for less than 200 bucks so I can make a 2 tby drive that plugs in huh it's worth it yeah last time I touched the inside of the compers the monitors were 14 in it I'm done so okay so that's that's what's in the works if you have access to any of that I would be willing to come over or sit with you guys and go through so I don't expect you to do the stuff I would want to at least maybe learn how to do it or yeah cuz it's going to be a lot of was it this one it was find
027out what sizes of the of the for the program and the uired and that'll tell you what size we can do cuz a lot of the stuff that was in here was I think we talked about updating data um getting updated stats because it looks like population change and we've got 2000 2010 now 2020 would be available correct because it's a 10us right um and then so it was it was simple things like updating stats maybe changing yeah some photos and things some things that we talked about that is data that's available through open County and just a matter of just plugging in updated data and taking out the old data and the great thing is not a lot has changed with us here in Leonard as much as it has with surrounding communities where
028they do impact us a little bit so usually we use that data for you know Edison Township and whoever our neighbors well they technically are our neighbor because they f as us yeah so so yeah it was it was stuff like that we're not trying to it shouldn't be big Chang us we're not going to reinvent the wheel we just want right tighten things up a little bit and referencing the sewer study and the sidewalk plan um I think we had a question about whether or not we wanted to add anything about Canabis to this plan but I can L we're going to talk to um Caitlyn about that okay all right just make so can probably even just ask her an email updating names things like that but yeah it's you can get the
029size of the files reord I'll look into that the files and programs all right like I think she was able to put it on the Des that's so big yeah so it's not more it yeah it was the flash dve right Flash sure if it was a flash drive it sounded like it was a bur disc oh was it but I could be wrong I thought it was it okay it's probably a flash drive got that better idea it's not we don't need some issues or items to add to a annual report I don't think we have anything from this meeting that I would add to the annual report when do we want to submit that because this is the end of our fisal we submit that to the council is that something that we
030need to review here before we submit to council I don't know because we've never done it before I don't know what the process is for it good question let okay so we could probably just via email perhaps um amongst the planning Commissioners there will be decisions made in it's more of a review of what has already happened would it be easiest if we just put something out and so these are the things that the covered that would go into the annual report does everyone Concur and then if if everyone does concur I guess whatever you think the next step is which I don't recall I think that they brought it up when we went to that did seminar but I don't remember like if they actually sat down and broke up this broke down the
031steps of what we're supposed to do they all assumed we were doing that corre and so that's where I think a lot of us were kind of like okay we we'll make sure we do one forward I don't know what processes I feel like they gloss over it really quickly like yeah you all know about this right and I don't think a lot of people are doing it so um so we can do make a list and email out we'll start there start there and any if you find something in there we can convert back to this one right right of what our next steps are I might even just Google it too I thought we had it in our master plan as well so okay I'll go on to and we can come back
032and so you find something 2 e is assignment of a planning consultant we do have a planning consultant that task is oh I don't remember her last name but Kaitlyn yeah hold on I got from the last have h b n she keeps calling me about you guys M does she I thought she was tell me you looking for she's oh okay because we kind of will the way we will utilize her is as we kind of like on call thing so if we need her we'll kind of reach out to her with you kind of like how we do with the lawyer I just don't call them on the regular if I have a few things I need to cover just for the way it works I'll cover it with them and then that
033way I'm only even build for small little chunks instead of lots of chunks yep um so yeah so her name is Caitlyn havin h a BB n she came in here she was was it just us meeting is that oh when she was on her way to Elmont she was on to Elm yeah and I all that with her that's why I'm remembering her being here but not remembering I think they would have been like okay the summer August um being that we don't have a lot to say about this right now I'm just going to make a note to myself to email out the information I do have on pay that way you just have all this cuz I know there was a flyer on her and the company that she was with she
034was out on leave um she had a baby and they had a backup so there was I think they're a good company to work with because they did have wa trim yeah Stu here see um but they yeah wa Tri had a backup orer who was ready to sure as soon as we were if we had any questions or anything at the time she does a lot of the smaller um municipalities and Villages I want to say it was like here we go Village of Valmont City Hadley Township AR you to be small as letter but but at least she she's not working with the city of city of BL gigantic um and I guess I'll leave it B I'll just share that information and I'll stand it and share it bill is council meeting
035update I think was anything out of the ordinary that I would bring to the council here leave Village update um you know a lot of things are just inlux rate now with the truck we get the truck repairs done the greater got a new guag here oh there I guess update okay there you go not since then yes welcome our new president don't forget the building ah all right that good one and 4285 needs to be demolished um there's really nothing in the middle of that um the attorneys came in and let us know that if we give any advice other than that we become liable and we're not going become liable um so we've authorized him to move forward with the next step that's the one across from the correct the findings of the
036dangerous building hearing stated that um the only thing that could be done with it is to be demolished so we can't divert from that path at all um and there's really so nobody has expressed lots of people have expressed interest in purchasing it but they think they're going to renovate it they think it's in good shape they don't realize there's a hole in the roof right now they don't realize there's 3 ft of water in the basement there and I think a lot of those people and correct me if I'm wrong are they slight on the scene because when you approach the building there's a great big sign right next to the door that's got bright yellow neon tape around it saying dangerous building this is condemned it's slated to be demolished like right there
037next to the door so unless people are doing something where they're speculating and they're not really ever seeing the property okay yes they're not they're not even coming here unless they have befor to F because that's what they soon as they ask the question of the agent the agent sends them to you and then they ask the question they're they're not coming out here yet okay um half of them probably don't even know where letter is right they just know that it's in Oakland County and there's some Fu to be made so count is still one of the richest counties in the nation they see something low price they can get their F the door they think they're going to make a big score yes on this one oh no no that time is passed
038they could have but time is fast and I think the owners still want too much money for it anyhow um if they could have sold that property for 20,000 somebody probably would pick it up after 40 they were starting new so 40 Grand into it they' start a new so you know they'd be fine they want 80 so it's 80 plus 20 so I quoted demoing it at 20 no bill is talking about getting another quote for it um but they want 80 so that put you at 100 it just doesn't make sense you so um and that's that's probably the biggest item there I'm assuming that's a residential property I'm assuming that there would be no changes to that never changes everything would stay the same and I would assume that it would just
039be a vacant property for now the grass can grow and nobody has to cut it it's too bad be a nice place to park across the park I wouldn't be in a post B even opening that up but just cutting down all the AR sits there and uh open it up and make the whole place look a lot nicer extend the park and just add some pine trees or something you know somebody gives away free trees and mik got free trees a couple years ago I like do you want these trees and it came in they're like little sticks we planted a couple I don't remember where they are now um any planning commissioner questions or concerns can open that up to everybody no just a reminder that next two months out out of town
040all right no no wakers we want to talk about when we will meet next um because we do have our meetings slated for the next year um uh so our fiscal ends right now um and then we'll start new in March and so our meeting schedule March du March so we need to have a minimum of four meetings um being that I know things have been really bu for a few of us right now um with knowing that dog's going to be gone already a couple months do we want to make motions to cancel possibly the next two months meetings what are the thoughts of the people well I guess let's go month by month just by month okay um sounds good you know if something did come up then sure no that's sorry Jennifer
041we can at least we we know that for the next two we can Pro more than likely we'll be able to cancel March and April but I'll do them in the meeting one at a time okay so we'll just start we go ahead and and then we can always cancel them in the village council meeting if we and then if we can then I guess let's plan on May it'll become the 15th I believe third Thursday May what May 15th so let's plan for May 15th um obviously that can change but just to get our cycle of meetings started okay that way we don't end up at the end of the month going no we have to do November December January and so we don't have to correct and by that time well maybe we
042can review the completed master plan and maybe by that time we could have a really firm conversation about the sidewalk yes yes because that's getting to be groundbreaking probably yeah that's about that's a that's definitely a good time and then it's also pre Strawberry Fest if that for more connectivity and more stuff out of the way and done each before people start stepping on it right okay so plan for May 15th as of right now we will um plan to cancel March and April and I'll do those one at a time if that changes we'll let everybody know okay did you find anything for the um I did not okay we're just why because we're looking so fast yeah like said I know what's in there but it's probably aign yeah right we might even
043have to ask Kaitlyn what that's supposed to so if nobody has anything else to say then we can 742 all in favor of AD Jour I I any opposed caring none we are done