001considerable planning. >> Yeah. >> Right. Because we we we only got one chance to get it right. There's only be one time that it opens, right? So, and I want to make sure that we give our 78 middle school and our 912 an amount of time to plan because it's going to be staff meetings. It's going to be working with staff differently, right? And then as we as a board look at um and as superintendent and as a board as we start to look at the elementary schools, right, we have to consider transportation walk zones, what do the neighborhood schools look like? What are the capacities of the building? And every time you adjust like special education and EL programming at a building based on how you draw your um your lines um per building
002it adjusts like how many kids can be in there, right? So it it depends on how many uh setting three rooms you have, how many different uh EL rooms you have, what population needs are. So then it it alters by a little bit the capacity of each building. So, we're really going to have to study it. And I don't I I can't say get it right. We can get it very close to right because no matter what you do, five years from now, it could alter a little bit where it is. Um, I've been told that history of of Lake View has altered a little bit here or there and they've redrawn boundaries for the school a couple of times and some people are happy and some people are not. But I think we have
003to keep that that idea that we got to get it as close to perfect or as close to correct as possible and then move forward and then just watch it and adjust as we go. >> I was just curious about if you have a number of attendees at the the list or the the report outs from the task force so the community meetings. >> Oh, sure. Um, so it was already mentioned earlier today, we had in the mid 500s for the survey. Um, we actually had impeccable attendance at the task force. Um, around 25 people. Um, almost no no misses or changes. Um, and then we had a lot of people at the community meetings. I'm trying to think of how many we had that were not school district staff and not task force members.
004I think it was >> the lunch one was lighter. The evening one was I can't >> I want to say the lunch one was around 20 individuals and the evening one was 30 plus. >> Yeah, probably closer to 40. >> We made some real committed task force members who came to both. Right. So, but I kind of don't not that they don't count as people but I don't think of them as more community input. Right. Uh, Chair Claude, I I um and other board members, I like the idea of being proactive and uh we so we we obviously have to do something and and uh you're right that closing a building is going to be the sensitive part and I can testify to that because uh my wife Jean and I drove by where Hayward
005school it used to be. And it was the first time that I noticed that that building's not there anymore. It's gone. And I I moved into that building in 1955 when I was in third grade. And uh Hayward, Hollandale, Clark's Grove, all of their schools were closed. That was that was pretty tough because the the the school was the center of the community. And that that's pretty much ancient history. Now it's gone. Um but but closing choosing picking a school that's going to be closed is going to be a sensitive issue and it's going to get the public's attention. But in the meantime, we we need to we need to uh we don't want to react to a devastating financial situation which will inevitably occur if we don't do something. So I will move that
006we adopt the first plan. Not that I'm, you know, fanatically or wildly in favor of it, but uh we need to open up the discussion. So, I will put that on the table. >> Is there a second for the motion from Director Score? >> Okay, now that officially opens us up. We got a second by Angie. >> Uh, go ahead. >> Yeah, I go ahead. I You're more senior. Um, I just want to say I was I attended the task force meetings as an observing board member and I'm going to give my impression. I think that that words on the wall were always mind I think we were always mindful of our mission. We were just weren't talking about brick and mortar. We were talking about that. Um also my impression was that the discussions
007about these plans was a very robust dynamic discussion about what was in the best interests of our kids. Um so I you know that was a big takeaway for me and every time the notion of this is just my experience but what I observed is every time we talked about something moving to the high school the response was yes we can do that we can do that. So that's sending the signal to me and the task force guy think is that we have space in the high school and now I think we have a responsibility to make sure we fully use that space otherwise we're looking at potentially 40% almost being underutilized uh and after meeting with uh principal Johnson this is more in the weeds but if we have a seven or 78 middle
008school concept in the high school, there needs to be a principal for that for that grade and better be I hope it's Tyler because he can make it work. But I think we have the capacity to make that work 712 because that's even the dialogue the dialogue when we were exploring options and writing them on the board number plan one seemed just to percolate out of the out of the task force. it seemed to make the most sense. But I would say that 78 model, we have to make that work and give those learners a sense of their own community uh with again administrative leadership. Um I think it's possible, but I'm believing that because of the optimist optimism expressed by our administrative leadership. So I I can support plan one, but based on some
009of those caveats. >> Yeah. Oh, go ahead. >> We're not doing the most senior right now. Okay. Okay. Um I agree with what Gary's saying that, you know, first first and foremost is what is best for students and we know educational research is the least number of transition a student makes in their K12 career is what's best for students. And so option one gives a student three moves. Opt option two five option three four. So that alone um you know is is very what's the word um dominant in my mind for option one. The other thing, you know, as an adult, a long-term first grade teacher in this district, um, as an adult, I might say, I'd love option two because then I can work in a building with all 10 or 12 colleagues of
010first grade teachers so we can team. And teaming obviously is very important, but it's not great for kids. It's not great to have do that to families, to have them bounce around from school to school. Um, and so there's that as well. So, you know, from an adult perspective, because that did come up in some community meetings that as I was talking to people, well, it'd be great if you could have band grade level teams together. Yeah, it would be great, but it's not what's best for kids. Um, and you know, we are taking this seriously. You know, I thought about it sitting here and um my husband's family, my granddaughter will be the sixth generation um family member starting kindergarten next year. So this is very serious to us all and again thank you
011for the task force. You did a lot of work and I appreciate all the data. Um and then Dave your comment about you know we are being proactive. We are but much longer it it would be reactive. So I appreciate all the work and that this is being discussed now. So thank you. >> Have to add one more thing. Um I think and I think you are thinking this way Dr. pile, but we can talk look at those enrollment numbers and just sit back and let it happen to us. But I'd like to see the district put together a strategic enrollment plan. How can we gain enrollment? We don't have to decline in my we just we we'll let it happen to us. I don't want us to do that and I don't think we're
012the type of school system that would do that. But I'd like to see as a board member a comprehensive enrollment management plan. How can we attract students and how can we retain students? I think that has to be part of this because I I was watching some program that was a waste of my time, but here's an advertisement for Mano State saying come to Mano for PSO enrollment. Well, that's money that's walking out our door. So, I and I know our friends in Alden promote their school system to attract students. I think we need to do the same. >> Yeah. A few board meetings ago, I talked about that and then this has kind of been my attention for a while. Um been working with Sean on in increasing seats with online um for our
013online school. So, actually the high school's taking that over. Um, I think a big piece, um, when I helped school, uh, the school that I was principal of grow in, um, Arizona when I was there, we brought in more fine arts for the students, that grew students. That's why I think it's key when I say, I'd like to see that instrumental music get down to fifth grade. If you talk to the music department, wow, we'll be turning out some really great musicians by just starting a little bit. But it gives families and and when I say that this comes from a sports guy, right? I'll admit it. I quit playing the baritone as soon as I could after sixth grade to to focus more on my athletics. But I do also have a daughter that
014played the saxophone all the way up to her junior year, sings in the choir, and that fine arts is is her piece. But the more times that I talk with a lot of families, you'll find out there's a lot of fine arts people out there, and they really would like their kids to have more opportunity. I also think when you have a 78 middle school at a within a comprehensive setting of a high school, the the taxpayers in the late 90s in this community designed a high school that I know many of the high schools in the state wish they had the facilities we have. When you look at all the CTE programming that we could offer our students and we can start to, it's not going to happen right away, but we can start
015to tap into that. um as I've will work with Tyler and Sean on that about how we get that that seven eight right your seven eight middle school is about exploring about learning who you are exploring possibilities and seeing how what you like and what you do like to that 10th grade or nth grade what I call academy get everything down to then the the 101 12 pathways and if we could do that in one building across two principles and really help two staffs work together like that and start to design we can really create an awesome comprehensive secondary system. Um, not say that we couldn't do it without it, but I think the possibilities increase when we put them together that way. And and again, it's circumstantial that we're putting them together that way.
016But I think it's also proactive looking at what do we do? What does it look like at that 31 32 date in there? That 31 date that I always talk about, and then what what steps do we do and where do we get? And I also think that focus on literacy and what I call numerical literacy from our prek all the way through senior, but that real big focus that we have prek through 8 is is going to be a a big draw to families when they see what our graduates can do. >> Yeah. Um you said pretty much what I was going to say. Um, I I see some real advantages with uh 7 through 12 in one building, two separate schools, and and finally an actual middle school, seventh and eighth grade classes
017together with one principal, one administration. But from an athletic and activities point of view, music and and athletics, the Minnesota High School League considers 7 through 12 their their uh arena. And so, uh, not all sports, it probably wouldn't be a good idea to have a seventh grader playing on the varsity football team, but, uh, in, uh, wrestling, for example, it would be wonderful to have 7th through 12th graders in one, you only have to range for busing for those rare individuals that are good enough to be a varsity caliber when they're in seventh or eighth grade. Um, I see a lot of advantages there. and having seven through 12 in one building. Uh people get tired of me telling about how uh things were when I was a seventh grader in 1957, but my
018my class was the first to go three years at Southwest 7th, 8th and 9th. But while I was in southwest seventh, 8th and there were seventh, eighth, and ninth graders in central high school. So we had a 7 through 12 building uh in 1957 and before um so it's it's in and as far as I know, uh it worked pretty well. >> All right. Um, similar to what Casey Walters had commented, when I first heard that we would be restructuring things or looking at that, I was hoping that maybe we could get the eighth grade out of the high school. Um, and the more data that came out, the more, you know, the less likely that that seemed feasible. And then when I first heard that, oh, we might be looking at moving seventh grade
019in, my reaction was, oh, that's that's not good. Um, thinking that we would throw them in there like we've done with eighth grade. But as I've learned about this, the setup of having a middle school in the high school seems like it could solve multiple problems at once and be a better setup, at least for the eighth graders. Um, and when we toured the high school today, you know, I'd asked um, Superintendent Hy, why um, haven't we separated the eighth graders in the past? What makes it easier to do it with seventh and eighth grade? And I was wondering if you could comment on that. >> Sure. And so what we did uh kind of looking at it is uh gave the tour of e- house first and second floor. um we looked at were
020the science rooms and we just talked about and I counted the rooms and explained how you could fit um your your your core uh language arts, social studies, math class within one um and that on one level and then they had travel out for science then it matters on the schedule so that the passing times don't match and that's the one thing that we accomplished when I was in Delano is we ran the seventh and eighth graders as a middle school philosophy on the teams. So they kind of team so you kind of knew which of the group you had. Um and then their passing times were different than the 912 times. Um it worked. Um did it work 100% time? No, because you got kids that are out in the hallway. You got kids
021wandering around. But um but it did work academically. the teachers were able to to continue their middle school philosophy and I think at the high school using one of the e-wings or e-houses um for the 78 um will accomplish that goal. So right now I'm working with Shawn to to fit everything in there appropriately. >> I would just add that people do feel skeptical because you know they were sold the idea back in the day that 8th grade would be separated and it didn't happen. So naturally, people are skeptical. I would want to be very sure that we're not selling anything that we can't deliver on this time. >> Um so speaking as a parent with I got three kids in the school district now. I got one at elementary, one at Southwest, and one
022at the high school. Um one thing that I've learned with each of my kids is they're most nervous switching to the new school every so often. Um that's why when I'm reading through the options and I'm looking at two and three and I'm like well it's a lot of changing around for these kids and um especially the high school. The high school is super intimidating um for the kids coming from the younger grades. Um and my oldest one was I think one of the first eighth graders to come into the school. Um we were all real nervous about it. Uh and I remember asking him probably daily for the first month how is it with the older kids there? Um he well I don't ever see them and if I do they don't bother me.
023And it made me feel a lot better about that. Um, same thing with my middle school when he switched from elementary to Southwest and he said everything's been great so far. Um, I was also very skeptical with hearing at seventh grade to move up to the high school. I didn't like the idea of that very much. Um, learning that we're going to separate them. Um, there isn't going to be a lot of disruption, a lot not a lot of school changes. Um, I do think that out of the three, number one is um the best plan in there and I like that it's just it limits the amount of changes that are going to happen with how often they transfer schools in there. Um, so again, just speaking, I think level one is definitely the
024way to go too. >> Any other uh discussion? All right. Seeing none, got a motion on the table to um to adopt option number one, which would have three K4 schools, a 56 intermediate style school, and a 712 high school. All those in favor of that plan signify by saying I. >> I oppose the same sign. Motion passes 70. >> Thank you. task force. >> Thanks again to the task force. Yes. >> Been here. Yeah. >> Commitment >> and responded us. Well, thank you. >> Okay. So, that will take us to 92. Dr. Hy, a summary of budget adjustments. Okay. All right. So, like I kind of said earlier, tough part of the job here. Um, tough part of being on a board. This is something we we never look at doing. Um, so budget
025reductions and we did the first part when we talked about teachers. Um so out of the office of the superintendent um we have some general district uh reductions uh activity supplies non-instructional supplies instructional supplies potential additional staff reduction that would be non-licensed staff um at 60,000. So the estimated general fund savings would be 85,000 there. um technology. We've met with um mainly at the high school um and we've talked about some of the younger grades uh from taking Chromebooks home to focus on classrooms that continue to use Chromebooks for uh assignments. So, we can we'll see a reduction of about $35,000 um through those Chromebooks. Um in the off office office of um finance and operations, we're going to reduce our account payable down to a 0.8 FTE. You'll see about $26,000 in savings there.
026Um custodial maintenance um kind of in this is a little bit in preparation of um other district of our of our journey with um option one there. Um we're going to at this time reduce uh really what is a 4.5 FTE reduction in the A13 position. So it's four elementary and one Brookside. Um and it reduces that truck driver uh delivery driver to three days per week. So estimated general fund savings about $325,000 there. um student services. Um we're going to reduce one of the assistant director of student services. Um school site reductions of and these were the reductions that we went through last month. So you can see that's about 1.8 million a little over $1.8 million in reductions. And then um uh talking with uh Darcy, we're going to um uh try not
027to use name, but my executive administrative assistant will go from 40 hours to 32 hours a week. So that's approximately 24,000. And then the option that a lot of people have have questioned that we have talked about and it's been that lack. So I'm going to tell you I I sat with Darcy and I said, "Darcy, what am I missing? What what am I not looking at? Where am I going to find roughly $175,000? Because I got to estimate a little bit on the high side. Um where am I going to find that? How are we going to do this if we don't move the ALC? And she said, "Steve, I'll go home and think about it." So she did. So the next morning I came back and I sat and I looked at her
028and I said, "How can we do this?" And she looked at me and she said, "There's one person you haven't thought about, I bet." And I go, "Who's that?" And she said, 'You and I. So, what do you mean by that? She said, "You can keep your office down here in the morning. Just go upstairs late morning, afternoon." She's right. Or at least I think she's right. Well, might get a few more gray hairs, but um I think it's a viable. We could move the ALC to the Southwest campus. The ALC could run an alternate schedule. The programming works. We can make mixing of the students minimum. Um and it would remain in effect for multiple years. What option B does it gives us another year to look at it. Um Darcy and I can
029go up and and I say work afternoons, it's not just afternoons because it's not like the students are only there in the afternoon, but it's it's myself being and working with the ALC staff, working with the students. Um and I've said it a few times, I kind of miss being around the kids some sometimes and and kind of the action of that. But Darcy and I can go work, you know, afternoons and as much as available at the ALC and we can study this for one more year. Now, since I've written this and I've kind of left it that way, it's dawned on me that as we do the shuffle after next year, we will wind up with one additional dean of students. And that dean of students could transfer to the ALC, which could
030really make that a multiple year. we they just stay at Brookside unless the district has to make additional reductions and stuff, but like I said, that gives us time to study the issue. So, you'll see the estimated general fund savings is at $37 uh,000. The reason for that really is is the administrator was really eliminated last year. Sean and I inherited an administrator that was supposed to bounce between the ALC and the high school. through some additional cuts that we made at the high school this year, but between Sean and I communicating about um some items through the retirement of an AP rehired as a dean um and some adjustment that we did there. There's now two deans, an assistant principal and a principal at the high school. Through all of that, we were able
031to hire an interim part-time administrator at the ALC. So, the funds really we're going to reduce an educational assistant at the ALC um to kind of help with some of that um with the fund, but ultimately I can go up there. I'm licensed for it. Um the great kids up there, great staff up there. Um I think you all have heard me talk about there some of our most vulnerable students. Um, and I also have some uh connections in the community that um maybe we can start have some students make some extra options on what their career path would look like, apprenticeship, things like that. I get kind of excited thinking about it. Do I like the the amount of additional work it potentially could be? Now, I stay here till 5, so what's 6
0327:00 at night anyway? But um I think the option allows the ALC to stay here at Brookside, allows us to work, um and really solidify. Met with many of the ALC um when I came into the district in June and August of last year. Um and it allows us to to really create an identity. I'll do some of that strategic planning and and uh uh school identity work with them. And I I think uh getting back to what Gary said, we could make our ALC even stronger. And I think with myself being up there, it's I'll I'm more interacting with everybody. It'll be a little bit easier to do. So the next one when I kind of have a statement option A and B, that's kind of what I'm getting at. So to kind of
033go over the budget cuts, um we're a little bit under 2.6 six because as we did our realignment with the teachers, we had a few more staff that uh had experience were a little bit more expensive. So, I'll continue to comb the budget. Um Paul's find out has found out working with me, I comb the budget all the time and and like uh Sean and I did at the um high school, we were able to create some savings that are still in the nature of about $40,000 in savings. and we were able to hire an interim part-time ALC um principal. Um but we still have to go through these budget cuts. And so I think I have an option B that's workable. I know it will work. Um and um it kind of keeps us
034intact. We could we can still study the ALC if we need to, but I think when we get through all the change next year, I believe we'll have a dean of students position. um that between our current three dean of students, we could figure out who goes to the high school works with the who goes or stays at the high school 78 who goes or stays to the high school 912 and who comes to the ALC um to help run the ALC. With the high school, you'll have three licensed administrators. We still have three administrators here. Um, so there'll be six available licensed administrators to if a dean needed something the LC in future years. But more importantly, what it'll start to do is free up her counselor and take off some of the administrative
035duties that she's been doing at the ALC and gets her more into that counseling role, which was one of the chief things I was trying to accomplish with moving the ALC to allow that counselor more ability to be a counselor and less role as an as an administrator or dean of students. So that's where we're sitting right now on overall budget cuts. Questions for Dr. Hyle on the cuts. >> Yes, Neil. >> Sorry. I like the idea about the ALC. Um, and you're right. There are some opportunities there. They're great staff, great kids, and it should be exciting um working with that program. >> I agree with Neil, too. I'd rather see us or the administrator focus on the transition at Southwest versus having to add on that the ALC might move there. So, I
036would prefer to see it stay perhaps and you can do some administrative uh reorganization to assure them um because Angie and I were up at the ALC today and the counselor I asked her specifically and she wants to be a counselor and I don't and I don't blame her and she's good. I'm just the impression is that she does a good job for the students there. So, I think this is a wise decision. Let's make the first priority needs to be that transition for the other buildings and let's set Southwest aside and uh hopefully move in a direction that perhaps they stay here because Angie and I are very impressed with the layout today and talk to every staff member in the ALC and uh that would be my preference too. So, I I appreciate
037the opportunity to share with you my concerns and ask about a what's a plan B because I didn't think plan A was really a valid option. Understand why it came forward, but and so I'm appreciative that we we thought about that and we talked about having three administrators in this building um and having one administrator at Southwest. this makes more sense to me that we would uh en encumber that opportunity until we know for sure. Um and I also I'm I'm do we we'll we'll see about a vote and for discussion because I have some concerns about cutting the the um assistant director for special ed. So you know, uh, we've got a summary of what Dr. talked about. Do you want to add anything to the ALC discussion or actually I look for a
038motion on 9.3? We'll slide right into that on option A or option B for um, ALC. I make a motion to adopt option B in the proposed uh um structure for the ALC for the 2026 2027 academic year. >> I second >> and there's a second. Is there any other discussion? >> Okay. Hot button. I'll just say that I'm relieved to see a second option like this after speaking with um after touring and speaking with the admin today and um you know we had a nice conversation with each of them. Um we looked at the size of the classrooms and kind of compared that to what Southwest looks like um how the students enter, what time they do all this at um where the interactions or interruptions might be. Um I just it feels like
039Brookside is the better fit for it. Um and I was really hesitant with the Southwest thing. So, I'm glad that option B came in and we we have a good option there. We're at least going to look look it over and and give it another year to look into it. Thank you. >> Go ahead. >> Um yeah, touring the um Southwest Middle School campus with Gary today. I I actually could see how it could work. I didn't walk away feeling like this is a terrible idea to put it there, but I'm not feeling a lot of support for that. and there's only so much stress that we can throw at our staff right now. So, um I appreciate that you looked at this further and are willing to put some time into it and um
040maybe after a year we'll have another solution. So, it'll just be less disruptive. >> Any other discussion? All right, seeing none, all those in favor of option B for the ALC staying where it is with Dr. Hy and um Darcy overseeing it signify by saying I >> I pose the same sign. Motion carries. Thank you for option B. >> Yeah, thank Darcy. >> Darcy, I'm looking great. >> All right, let's go to uh that was 9.4. We have a resolution reduction in hours of uh executive administrative assistance. Uh Ashley Madson. >> Good evening, Chair Clott, school board director, Superintendent Hy. Uh so tonight, uh the following resolution provides notice to two executive admin assistants regarding reduction in work hours from a 1.0 O FTE 40 hours a week to a8 FTE 32 hours effective July
0411 of 2026. Uh the two positions are the accounts payable position and then the executive administrative assistant to the office of the superintendent and school board. Um the resolution again is part of the budget adjustments for fiscal year 27. Okay. Is there a uh motion for the resolution the reduction of hours of executive administrative assistant? >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, all those in favor signify by saying I. I >> I oppose the same sign. >> Okay. And 9.5 resolution pertaining to the elimination positions of the A have LCIO local union. Uh I've written over that uh our local union for the custodial employees. Ashley. >> Yes. So, this resol resolution presented this evening lists the elimination of five A13 custodial positions districtwide. Um, effective June
04230th of 2026. Um, it is one evening custodian at Southwest, uh, two evening custodians here at Brookside Education Center, a day custodian at Albertly High School, and an evening custodian at Elbertly High School. Um with the school board approval of tonight, layoff notices and recall information will be provided to each employee um as agreed upon agreed upon with the custodial master agreement. Is there a uh motion uh to support the resolution pertaining to the elimination of uh uh custodians as written? Is there a second? >> Second. >> Is there any discussion? >> Yeah, I'm I'm curious as to who is going to assume the responsibilities of those who were terminated or or eliminated. >> So, working with um coordinator of operations and safety, we'll be working on a rotation schedule. Um, and we've met with
043a a custodial unit as well. Um, after these notices go out. >> I guess my concern is that uh we're going to be operating with five people less than we have in the past. And I'm assuming that those people were doing something that needed to be done. And I I I would hope that uh this the new arrangement will continue to have all the services provided that we need. >> That is correct. Is there any other discussion? Uh we have a motion on the table for the elimination of uh five of our uh custodial employees. Uh all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I >> oppose the same sign. >> Nay. Okay, motion passes uh 6 to1 and let's see. So 9.6 a resolution pertaining to elimination uh positions within the support staff
044unit. Ashley, >> yes. The following resolution lists one support staff A13 position for elimination effective June 30th of 2026. Um, this A13 position is the attendance clerk at Albert Lee High School. U, again, a layoff notice and recall information will be provided to the employee as stated within the support staff master agreement um, following the approval of tonight's resolution. Is there a motion um, for the elimination of positions within our support staff? unit. >> Is there a second? >> Second >> and a second. Uh any discussion? >> So, who is picking up this role? If we're eliminating, >> there is a high school office restructure. So, that will be absorbed. Any other discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Those opposed signifi same sign. >> Okay, motion passes.
045Uh the next one is uh Ashley is a resolution relating to the termination of and non-renewal of the teaching contracts of probationary teachers. Uh so this resolution terminates the teaching contract of three probationary teachers at the close of the 2526 school year um as part of the staffing adjustments for the 2627 school year. Um these are three licensed staff members again that are probationary. >> Okay. Um this is a roll call vote on this one. So, but I will need a um motion first of all for the um the termination of non and non-renewal of the teaching contracts of probationary teachers. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any other discussion? >> And I'm I'm assuming that this is precipitated as a result of a declining enrollment. >> So, staffing adjustments for next year and
046the realignment. Yes. >> Y >> any other discussion? >> Oops. Are these related to the um resolution recalling teachers that's coming next together hand in hand. Yes, >> I guess. And I just want to say I apologize to those teachers who were told they were given a job and then two weeks later find out they weren't. That's not how we should be doing operations here. and also to the teachers who were told they did not have a job for two weeks and were recalled. So unfortunate but we are correcting the situation. >> Any other uh discussion? >> Okay, Darcy. >> Director Nelson. >> Yes. Director Square. Yes, >> Vice Chair Schindler. >> I >> director Hoffman. >> I >> Director Dorman. >> Hi, >> Director Ber. >> Hi, >> Chair CL. >> I Okay. 9.8.
047Uh Ashley, this is for the resolution to recalling a proposed uh ULA of I'm sorry, unrequested leave of absence continuing contract teachers. >> Yes. So, this is the final resolution that recalls the unrequested leave of absence for five licensed uh teachers placed on proposed ULA from the March 16th regular school board meeting. Realignment and staffing adjustments recall all five licensed staff members to continue to continue with their 1.0 FTE for the 2627 school year. >> We'll make this a roll call vote also, but we don't need to. Okay, then that's fine. All right. So then I would look for a a motion. >> Is there a second? >> Second. Is there any other discussion for the recalling? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. >> I. >> Oppose the same sign.
048>> Okay. Thank you. All right. So, this will take us to 9.9 then. Mr. Durban, we have a health insurance discussion. >> All right. Thanks for having me back again. Uh, Chair Clott, school board, Superintendent Hy. Um, so this evening we have an action item uh to approve uh our insurance um rate increase for the fiscal year 27 uh school year. Um and also um here with us this evening is Mr. Aaron Casper from NIS. Uh Aaron, can you hear us? Okay, on the Zoom, >> I got you. >> All right. So, um, in short, and I know it's been a long evening, uh, but, uh, hopefully some healthy discussion here about our insurance, uh, RFP and premium increase, uh, recommendation for next school year. Um, I will just kick it off. Um, the recommendation
049this evening, as you had in your board memo, um, board, uh, packet of a increase of a 14.75% um, premium increase. And um we've outlined uh the impacts of those premium increases um in your board packet as well for each uh uh plan and deductible uh for your consideration. And at this time I I'll kick it off to Mr. Aaron Casper with NIS, our uh consultant uh for our self-insured program. >> Okay. Thank you. And and you can hear me. Okay. Okay. Super. So um thanks for having me tonight. Uh, Chair Clatt, members of the board, Superintendent Hy um really just uh you you know just going to walk through um what was in your uh board packet and then make myself available for any questions. Uh just to summarize the process this year for
050this year's renewal. Um it was a required Minnesota statute bid year. So we went out um performed that bid uh under Minnesota statute. We received a um a number of proposals. uh most were self-insured or within the self-insured realm for uh administration as well as uh stop loss and pharmacy benefit management. And then we did receive a um would be a pool plan or similar to a fully insured plan um from PEEP the public employees insurance program. Uh ultimately after review of the finances and talking through uh with the representative insurance committee uh as well as the district administration um it was our recommendation to accept the blue cross blue shield um uh response and in addition to that um set our rates um in and that that 14.75% threshold. Um couple reasons for that.
051Uh right now we've been actually fairly consistent on our on our overall claims and our high claims, but we're really in a market right now that's impacting everyone specifically due to market inflation or um medical trend. So right now in our geography uh obviously we're impacted by Mayo Clinic um given where we're located and you've heard this from me before but trend has moved up from that mid to upper single digits to the upper threshold of the single digits to um the low double digits. So basically what that means is if we were running as expected um we would at a minimum um be giving ourselves a trend increase and we're not too far off that. we probably peg trend right around 12%. So at that 14.75 um it it doesn't feel good. Um there's
052no doubt about that. But overall in the market, we've really seen an escalation in those um in these renewals regardless of the funding model. So whether you're uh you know self-insured standalone like we are at Albertly Area Schools or you're in a uh you know fully insured uh direct with a carrier model or you're in a cooperative or a poolled model like uh the public employees insurance program. So overall um to maintain the stability we we need the revenue um and you know that's kind of our our recommendation and based on our our three different uh models. Uh the other thing that I would note and we're asking for your approval on tonight is um we have been having the conversation over the past probably three to four years probably three uh regarding uh evaluating
053a uh nonoale option uh medical plan option for our employees. Uh we are bringing that forward. um we're applying that to a our our highest deductible plan um as an option for for our our staff and their uh dependents. So we are bringing that forward and there was a slight uh decrease um um for that. So overall I would just open it up and and and be happy to field any questions. Um I know you've had the opportunity to review the information and we do have a couple board members that are are participants in the in the representative insurance committee. So any type of comments or questions I'd be happy to field. >> Is anyone from the insurance um committee would they like to comment before we go into uh ask Aaron questions? Yes, I'm
054I'm on that committee and and uh was at the meeting week or couple weeks ago and it's a committee that consists of representatives from each of our bargaining units and as as far as I know most of them were there and had opportunities to provide input and there was as usual good discussion and the consensus was uh among all of the participants at this meeting representing bargain units that that seemed like a a reasonable plan and uh the consensus was that we should adopt that recommendation. Oh, I I also uh applaud the uh out of mail option for the for that uh number three deductible plan. Erin, uh, you work with a lot of plans. You'd mentioned, uh, so 12 to 14 15% is getting to be pretty common right now on a self-insured standpoint.
055>> Yeah, I I would say it's it's common among all all funding uh models. So, you know, unfortunately, the last probably 24 to 36 months has been challenging. And what's really been driving the vast majority of this is the the increase in frequency and severity of high-cost claims across the board, not even, you know, in, you know, our geography or even in Minnesota, but even nationally. Uh we've seen that I', um, gone to a couple different stop-loss conferences and to hear these national providers, uh, speak to what's happening in the market. And granted, it's it's just a a portion within our overall uh plan, but it continues to grow. You know, a couple years ago, we were looking at maybe 15 on the on the high side, a 20% increase in these stop-loss uh policies,
056and now we're looking at double that, you know, 40 50%. And we've seen um you know the you know working with over a third of the school districts in Minnesota on on their medical insurance we've seen a variety of um of increases over the years and um I would say that they've in in whole have have definitely ticked up where we're we're now in an environment where it's rare to see a single digit increase. Now they it can happen but there's there's always you know some circumstances around that. the norm now is is the is the teens and we have are still seeing 20s out there. >> You know, I think we've been pretty blessed at least the first three years uh when we started the stop loss or self-insured some will call it plan
057that you know we had zero, didn't we? Or pretty close to that. So, I mean, it's not really catching up, but you can see where the the overall expenses have just continued to creep up on every plan, and then you get one or two big big uh uh incidences that hit stop loss. I mean, that is tough on a uh self-insured plan. So, >> yeah, we're, you know, we're we're definitely seeing um an increase in high-cost claimments across the board. uh it's the rare it's the rare entity um that that doesn't have that. Uh and you know what we're trying to do is we're we're trying to ultimately level off those oscillations as best we can. Uh and we have the protections in place to do that. So in the in the good years, you
058know, fortunately we we bank some some reserves in our fund 20 reserves and we're going to lean into that a little bit here um this next renewal cycle. So, yeah, we're we're trying to do what we can to to to mitigate it, but um the market is the market. And as a comparison, if we were still in a fully insured environment, we we'd be looking well north of of a 14.75 increase for sure. >> Any other Kim? >> Hi, Erin. Um you mentioned um a slight decrease in the out of network. What do you have any kind of ballpark there? >> Yeah. So out of the out of the 14.75 if you think about it on on what we're what we're looking at in terms of um a revenue increase, we're we're looking at a
0595% reduction off that off the high uh plan of that 3000 deductible plan. So, um, really it's it's about a 5% differential for our employees. >> Erin, would you be able to talk a little bit more about the high value plan and how hopefully that could impact future costs on the road? Um, we'll see how it goes, of course, but >> that would hope. >> Yeah. Abs, absolutely. Um, uh, Clerk Hoffman, I I I think the the best way to describe this is that what we're what we're really doing is we're giving employees the option, uh, to voluntarily elect to choose a plan um, and a network that no longer contains uh, Mayo Clinic in network. That doesn't mean that they couldn't access Mayo Clinic in an emergency type setting. Emergencies are going to be
060treated as in network. Um but but ultimately if folks um want to have that ability to re you know save on some premium dollars so impact to pay uh and not access Mayo Clinic we're giving them uh that option. Um you know it's going to be you know the juryy's still out you know so to speak because we're we're going to wait and see how many people are are willing to to make that you know switch. Um but typically when you make plan changes like this there is anywhere from a two to threeyear transition when folks um kind of move with their feet in their in their pocketbooks. So um we'll see how that goes. You know bottom line we still have to make sure and keep mindful of the revenue that we need to
061take in to cover our administrative expenses and our and our overall claims cost. >> So uh Erin, if I can jump in on that point. Um just a reminder to the board that as a self-insured um program u the premiums that we set are what is the money we bring in towards uh those claims right so we are essentially setting our premium to maintain our insurance fund balance so when we offer this um highv value plan the non-manual plan uh as a sidebyside with that high deductible plan we're offering it as a a discount right a 5% discount but what essentially we're doing that discount is impacting the amount of revenue we bring in as well. So if we see a lot of employees migrate to this plan, we bring in less revenue towards our
062insurance fund. Um and then we do need to continue to do the analysis on what the impacts are balance and our um costs of those claims with that plan as well. So, um, Aaron and his team, um, I think are approaching this, uh, very really intelligent, uh, giving us a plan to start it and offer an opportunity for our employees to, if they prefer, uh, a little bit cheaper option. Um, this will be a good option for them, but it's not going to put us at um, a tremendous amount of risk by offering it at a 5% discount. Um, and I just want to just comment on um, Director Nelson, your your question about the the cost. Um, so 5% discount on that off of that premium increase. Um, the premium costs for this are
063in that board packet. They're listed as the $3,6,000 deductible single or family uh highv value network option in your board packet. And the premiums u listed are $1,235 a month for the uh single and $3,100 a month for the family plan. So slightly more affordable than the um Blue Cross Blue Shield plan that we have existing. Any other u comments, questions? So, uh Paul, then we basically is there a couple motions we need to get right now? >> We I think we can do it all with one action. So, just a couple final points. So in summary or reminder first and foremost we talk about the high-cost claimants uh driving uh this and that's essentially we're thankful that we our employees have the insurance and when they need this it's there for them and um
064unfortunately that that's uh you know the driving factor in a rate increase. Um but we don't um you know we we need to be mindful that this that's this reason we have it too, right? And so um >> so there are some levers we can pull not necessarily with the high cost claimments right um but um in our self-insured model we do have our well at work clinic and we get really really strong feedback from our u our staff about our clinic right here in Brookside and not very many school districts can offer a clinic in house um same day appointments um very good feedback from our nurse practitioners that staff it um we share that facility with the county. It's a strong relationship with both parties. It's working well. It's about a 62% uh
065school district, 38% county, anywhere to 65% school district um usage, which is right about where our agreement is between the county and school. Um, and we also have a healthiest you um, uh, TEDoc app that our staff uh, if they're on our insurance are eligible to use for themselves and their dependent and get strong feedback about uh, how convenient that is. Um, if we are not in this current model that we're using, those may not be eligible or not they may not be available to our employees. So, something else to consider as we look at our self-insured model and we've done some deep dive into those discussions in the insurance committee. um but just want to celebrate those two uh programs that we offer as well to help keep those um in increases lower. Um
066so in summary, recommending insurance premium increase of 14.75% um for our medical health insurance increase under BlueCross Blue Shield plan this evening. Uh the plan options will now include a highv value sideby-side plan with the the high deductible option under Bluec Cross Blue Shield. Um, and then this vote this evening will also include a dental insurance renewal with no increase. Uh, a vision insurance premium renewal with no increase and no increase to our long-term disability premiums uh, for the July 126 renewal. So, at this time, we ask for a motion to approve the proposed insurance premium increases as outlined in your board memo. >> So, move. >> Second. >> Any uh any other discussion? One quick question, Aaron, for you. Did each one of the RFP companies have a uh high deductible plan proposal? >>
067Um they the so PEEP proposed a high deductible health plan as a part of their program. The um the other providers did provide from their actuarial workup um a an expected claims rate associated with our existing plan. So yes, they all included um a high deductible health plan uh equivalency. >> Okay, thank you. Any other questions? See, seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I oppose the same sign. >> Thank you, Aaron. Motion carries. >> Thank you. And Aaron, thanks for staying up late with us this evening. >> No problem. Have a good night, everybody. Thank you. >> Okay. Uh calendar master calendar uh 7.11. Tanya, >> wake up, Tanya. >> All right. Save the best for last. Just kidding. >> Okay. Good evening, school board. Chair clot, superintendent Hy. I'm
068here this evening to go over the proposed school calendars for school year 2627 revised and school year 2728. Um, as I get midway through the presentation, I'll also be inviting uh Principal Larson and uh Principal Gaston up um to share some crucial conversation information as part of the calendar committee. Um, one more thing to add um related to the school year 2627 revised. Uh, Director Dorman reached out to me a couple weeks ago um, inquiring about why do we have a 26 27 revised? Um, and this fall as we were preparing to create the calendar committee and get the next uh, calendar uh, prepared to go, Dr. Hyle had learned that although we had board approved calendars from for 2627, they were not MDE approved. So last year um it was not submitted to MDE
069for the early start renewal um or the early start approval. So, that also, as you'll see, um, when Principal Larson comes up, gave us an opportunity to look at some revisions that really came forward this year as some pieces that didn't work as well as we wanted them to. So, it opened up an opportunity. Um, that's why you're seeing the revised here tonight. Hi. So to go through the process, uh we established the committee in December. Um our first calendar committee meeting was held on December 15, 2025. Uh we gathered feedback after that first calendar committee meeting really gathered feedback then in December and January. reconvened our calendar committee in February, sent them back out again, gather feedback in February and March. On March 2nd, we received MDE confirmation um regarding board approval for 2627
070and 2728. Essentially, once we approve these two calendars, um if the board chooses to approve these two calendars tonight, we now just submit those to MDE for the 26 27 27 28 school year. Um, Principal Larson Gaston and I uh did some draft work um in March and then we brought all of those uh final products to the calendar committee and then you see we are bringing this to the board meeting tonight. The calendar committee really identified priorities and these were the key pieces that came up. elementary and early learning conferences, more time. And when we say more time, we mean length of conferences. Um because of our class sizes and the eight-hour day, our conferences were smooshed down into 15 minutes. Um so more time came up. Conferences at the high school resounding less
071time. So you can see how we kind of sat as a team and committee and thought how do we we make this happen? Conferences, interpreters, we need more and we need concentrated in-person efforts. We heard more more student contact days. We've heard Chair Clott say more student contact days for years. Um but we are also hearing it out of the high school um leadership team as well. eliminating or reducing two-day weeks that was coming out um mainly out of food service. Um but teachers also find challenges in those uh two-day weeks. No PD on Fridays. Uh feedback that we like academy days and then um stakeholders at the table continue to feel if we're going to have a pre-LOR day start, we need a pre-LOR or pre-memorial day dismissal. Um you'll see this exact slide
072come up again at the end of our presentation tonight to see um which of those priorities the committee was able to meet. So um Darcy, would you click on the 2627 calendar revised for us please? Uh you should have a close copy um provided to you this evening. You will see this is the revised for 2627. The main pieces to point out in the revision are conferences. Um, we have switched to two eight-hour days of conferences in August, November, and February. And I will let Principal Larson speak to the crucial conversations that happened um around conferences. >> Yes. Good evening. So, since I've started here in Albertly, it's changed quite a bit in the elementary what conferences looked like. When I first started, it was a 12-h hour day on a Monday. You can imagine
073how tired teachers were and how the attendance rate come a Friday, right? So, um lots of changes. We went down this past year, past school year to 15-minute conferences. That didn't work at all, especially for our success coaches. Imagine bringing in three students into the school and a teacher's running late. Now, we've pushed the other teachers to all running late as well. So, we really needed to make that change and adjustment by being able to have a Thursday, Friday, an 11 to 7, and a 7:30 to 3. Um, then we're able to meet the majority of the needs of our parents. We can have a longer conference schedule. Um, there's going to be a little more wiggle room and then we'll have more time for our success coaches to really help our families instead of
074rushing so fast that they can't have their needs being met. >> Thank you. All right. Uh, continue. And then this calendar does mimic in 2728. So what Principal Larson spoke to, you'll see in 2728 as well. Okay. Principal Gaston is coming up to talk through a couple pieces in this calendar as well. He's going to talk through uh crucial conversations related to finals around link crew and how we're providing those opportunities for students new to the Albert Lee High School and then commencement. So Darcy, if you would pull up the 2627 calendar again and then Principal Gaston will speak to those pieces. So, one of the things that we've tried to implement this year and and really push is the creation of a true final experience for our students. And I think our teachers are
075are doing a great job making that transition more towards those more comprehensive assessments that both give us an accurate picture of what did the students truly learn this semester, but also preparing those students for, you know, their future education. But one of the feedback we got from both staff and students and parents was that our current model, especially those two-day weeks in December, you're smashing four finals into each day pretty much by the time you you actually do it. A day of three, a day of four, that type of thing. And the feedback was just from a teaching standpoint, we know that's not good practice. uh from a student standpoint and Carly may attest is it's overwhelming to have that many finals especially in those upper grades when you're starting to get students doing college
076level material and parents gave a lot of feedback on that as well was if we're going to do this we should do it right and so by moving out of those two-day weeks and it we can move those finals into a full week and we can spread that that whole uh load over the the course of three four days. Um, so that was that was sort of one of the great pluses of being able to uh eliminate those two day weeks. >> Link crew. >> Other topic we were looking at was um we have an amazing program. Kevin Gint, Dian Henry, Mary Bon run our link crew. Um it's an opportunity for our upper classmen to connect with eighth graders. They get to do some fun activities in the morning and then they get to
077introduce the eighth graders to our building. They do a mock day in the afternoon. I think if you talk to our eighth grade teachers on the eighth grade teams at the high school, that's a vital day. You're getting a chance for the kids to feel more comfortable. They're getting introduced to older kids who are going to be there day one all the rest of the year, that type of thing. So, we really wanted to make sure that we were uh honoring that. We've been traditionally running it the day before all students report. So, if you look at this calendar, that would be on that 18th. Um, so we wanted to make sure we we kept that going. Uh moving in though to the following year with some anticipation that we might be looking at a
078712 building, we would have two grades transitioning in. And so we've already started the planning process of what will Link Creek look like for both incoming eighth graders and incoming seventh graders. Uh the immediate feedback from Kevin and his team is you can't do that in one day. You just can't. Um and so what we looked at was creating a two-day introduction period. Seventh graders coming one day, eighth graders coming the other. We run the same type of program but giving each grade the attention they deserve so that they feel comfortable moving into Albertly High School. So that was our second main area. And then the last one was commencement. Um very similar type discussion to the December we've had these sort of lame duck days where we have commencement on Friday and then we
079come back for school on Monday and Tuesday. Um heard from about a dozen families last year saying what are we doing? Why do we come back for two days? We all know nothing new is happening. At the same time, as teachers, we don't want to cram the finals into those two days for the very reasons we just talked about. So, we're trying to come up with a better commencement schedule where commencement truly marks the end of our school year. It's a celebration to honor those seniors. Staff gets a chance to say goodbye to that group as it's leaving, but also we just mark it as commencement is the end. And so, that was sort of our impetus on why we have been adjusting that ending. You notice we do not have those two hanging days
080on the back side. >> So in looking at each of those calendars, uh again, conferences are reflected. Uh Sean spoke to the link crew in 2627 and 2728. Uh you'll notice the extra diamonds for link crew in 2728. Um, a new color has been added to the calendar this year in yellow. The yellow reflects the parent teacher conferences for early childhood, elementary, and southwest. Those will be non-school days for them, but they will be school days for high school. That's how we were able to add four days back into the high school calendar. Um, so this year we have 171 student days for all students. Um, both of these calendars reflect 171 for early childhood elementary and southwest, but 175 for the high school. Um, so four days added back in to the high school.
081Um, red days, you'll see two academy days remaining on the calendar as protected professional development time. Um, over the last few years, those were four. um they've been decreased down to two but still having that protected um professional development time. Um other than that, Sean spoke to the uh final schedule um and the elimination of those kind of lingering days in December to just uh capitalize on that time. Darcy, will you go back to the slides, please? Um, as I stated, I would bring this uh slide back. Um, these were the priorities that the committee identified at the start of our work in December. Um, each of those priorities, um, we were able to hit with the exception of no PD on Fridays. Um we still do have one academy day on Friday. Um and
082then the eliminating or reducing two-day weeks. Um we were able to reduce the number of two-day weeks but not eliminate them because we will still have a two-day week on Thanksgiving um by making the 25th a non- studentent um I'm sorry, the day the Wednesday before Thanksgiving by making that a non- studentent non-staff day. Um, so that one we were able to reduce, not eliminate. And then no PD on Fridays we weren't able to avoid 100%. Um, but we were able to hit seven of the eight priorities as a committee. Um, tonight um this is listed as two separate action items on um your agenda. Um so we're seeking approval of the revision of school year 2627 and approval um action for uh school year 2728. Following approval of both those calendars, they'll be sent
083to MDE per MDE's direction. Uh Tanya, I I'm not seeing anywhere on these uh two calendars uh student days and staff days for 2627 or for 2728 total days. >> I will have Darcy, I know we usually have that little number count in the bottom. I will have Darcy add that number count. Uh but just to review what I stated, it's 171 for early childhood, elementary, and middle. And it's 175 for the high school. And then per teacher contract, it's 186 across the board. >> That's 25 or 26 27 >> for both calendars. Are those same numbers? Chair clot. Yep. >> Does uh at the high school 175 days, does that include seniors? >> Yes. based on principal Gaston's uh recommendation of making graduation the commencement the culminating this is the end >> good job
084>> and uh one one other quick thing total staff days >> 186 >> 86 >> 186 yep licensed staff >> and just to clarify for me there is a clean break then in December Sean for the students that as far as term is a term end in December they start a new term in January >> that is what what we've done that's the plan at this point is to continue that practice I know that's something that the early start has been favored on um to be clear there is a little bit of a conversation just from the standpoint of there is about a 13-day discrepancy between semester 1 and semester 2 >> and so right now um that's something our staff is actually looking at when we look at the future transition. If there would
085ever be any different models of how we schedule, we would need to revisit that to make sure we're being equitable to both both groups. >> I can just say as a school board member, I probably have had the most student feedback about making it a clean break for them and that makes perfect sense to me. Yeah. >> Um the other curious about spring break. Spring break seems late in 26 27 and then more midmon in uh 2728. So they're just rationale for that. >> Very keen observation. >> I'm going on no food and water. I'm weak. I'm weak. >> The rationale is uh we originally in our first draft in 2627 had it the third week of March. That's what it has been historically for a number of years. Um, in looking at that, it
086would create a um week off that third week of March and then a 4-day week because the 26th is Good Friday. So, as we looked at making some shifts, we gained a student day back by pairing spring break week with Easter. That was the rationale. The other rationale we learned after the fact is a more natural break for uh the high school league. >> One other spring break question. Uh Mr. Gaston, you'll appreciate this one. I'm sure. Do you know what's coming is we've got a problem with our spring sports and spring break because in this district there is no telling the students they can't go, which is fine. It's whatever it is, but all of a sudden we lose a week of practice when we're just starting out and who knows if it's going
087to be good weather or not. So, it's kind of nice to see it down here in the 22nd. But then I'm also going to tell you that we're going to run into game week pretty close to the end of that. But Good Friday, I think we're okay. But you go into 28 and we're going to run into that again because you shifted it back up to the third week and that's always the first week of practice with Minnesota State High School League versus arm week or or captain's practice week the second. So that's a challenge that I don't know I talked to Dr. Hila about that. I don't know where that would ever go other than um you know choices that have to be made. So anyway, >> um, in the past I've said I
088would vote no to any calendar where we didn't first survey the parents on the pre-LOR day start. And, um, I'm just assuming we we didn't >> we did not send out a survey. However, we did have parent representatives on the calendar committee who each time we met um, we kind of had a task going back um, and gathering feedback. So, we had parent representatives on the committee. Okay. >> I do appreciate breaking the break uh before Memorial Day though, just both for families and students and um and staff. I think that's just a nice uh approach. >> Okay. Any other discussion? Even though All right. Well, we got two motions. The first one is to uh approve the the revised 2627 uh prelabor day start calendar. I look for a motion to approve on that.
089So >> move. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Is there any other discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I oppose the same sign. >> I >> Okay. 6 to1 on the um 2627. Now I'll look for a motion on 2728 to approve the calendar. Yes, sorry Neil. Okay. >> There a second. >> Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I oppose the same sign. >> I >> passes six to one. >> Thank you. Executive Director Franks. Okay, that should bring us to uh 9.12, but I just want to mention that after we come back out of close session, we do have 9.14 and then we added 9.15 and 9.16 with some agreements. So, you know that there will be
090a couple things discussed and voted on at that point. So, uh we're at 9.13 or I'm sorry, 9.12. who are going to close session persuade to Minnesota statute section 13D.03 for labor negotiations. I look for a motion to go into close session. >> So moved. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I oppose the same sign.