001How you doing? >> Do uh >> Oh, sir. Sits right there. >> Hi, sir. >> Cheap 25. >> I have mine. >> 25 at Dollar Tree >> cuz I'm only 150. >> They corrected >> near side and I thought >> Let's get started. >> What's wrong? >> Here, Sarah. Do you want to sign? >> That's what they did. >> Stay in the box. >> Really? Do I have to? Okay. Hi. Hi. >> I don't know if I met >> Joe. That's Joe Conrad. He He used to be golfing and he quit that >> and now he does track. >> And he does football, too. Don't worry. >> One is you have to get all three. >> Yep. I met the other two ladies. >> Marge, if you want to sign mine on there. I'm sorry.
002I didn't realize that all three of ours have to fit in that little box. >> I didn't >> watch the magic. >> Okay. >> Hi, Jade. >> How are you? >> Tired, >> but not terrible. Sarah, have you done your board training yet? >> No, it's uh next month, August. I've I've already uh signed up or whatever. >> Sounds good. >> Just briefly. >> I was going to ask the other ones if Aaron and Cole want to wonder if it's probably too late. >> How often do they do that? >> I don't know. I always did mine at the beginning of the year. I always did mine virtual, too. >> Yeah. It's just I can't be gone for days at a time. You should sign up for the officer training too. >> I hope not.
003I mean, >> you have a chance. It's It's informationational. It'll cover the whole separate. It'll cover chair, vice chair, cler uh clerk, and then treasurer has this old own second day. >> It is. And I thought when yesterday >> came back today, now I think it's done. Oh, it was awful today. We're all landscaping. >> That was I mean high school. I never >> Okay, guys. I'm going to go. >> No. >> This meeting of the Lake Park Ottabon School Board Rel. Welcome to all of you who are present. We appreciate your interest in your attendance. Roll call. Marge >> here. >> Jade >> here. >> Sarah >> here. >> Susan here. >> Let's rise for the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
004for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Uh, can I get a motion to approve our agenda? >> So moved. >> A second. >> Seconded. >> Is there any discussion to the motion of approving our agenda? Any discussion? The motion passes. 2.0 public comments. Do we have any public comments tonight? Okay. If you'll refer to your agenda, the first order of business is board reports. We have a policy committee report. Susan DLE will be presenting that. Uh Lake Park policy committee uh met the to review and update policies 514 bully bullying prohibition. Uh 501, school weapons policy. 503 student attendance. 707 transportation of public school students. 709 student transportation safety policy. 413 harassment and violence. 425 staff development development and mentoring. And 522 title 6 sex non-discrimination
005policy. Uh committee members that were present was Susan Delelique, Marge Bedine, and Dr. Randall Burquist. and we met from 4:00 to 5:15 um 3.0 board reports. We have >> Mr. Chairwoman, may I say something about the policy? Yes, >> policies, please. Thank you. So, just so you know, you have a handout right here and I do have a couple extra ones. These comes out from the from MSBA, which is the Minnesota School Boards Association. And every July 1st, usually they'll have changes in the policies. Um, unfortunately, we didn't do the ones that were in February. If you can see the B, the color blue, not B, the color blue has substantive changes. So, you can see that we did the ones for sure that um, harassment, violence, staff development, and mentoring in February. So, we
006just did that one tonight. And then you also have some other ones. We tried to make sure that we would try to hit the ones involving students because the students will be starting here shortly and MSBA recommends or basically requires you need two readings. Okay. So, tonight's the first reading then we'll put it on the August 13th board meeting as well. And basically, um I appreciate the policy committee members coming in. We I thought we had good conversation and Marge feel free to chime in as well. and I'll make sure that um our principles know exactly what's in these policies. Those will be one of the first things we'll talk about next week um just to make sure that we're following things. And I will tell you this from my perspective as a superintendent in
007this district. Um one of the things that we talked about here is harassment and violence and the bullying prohibition policy. I will absolutely not accept any type of bullying behavior. All right? So we'll work together with the teachers and with the principles to ensure that students are coming here to Lake Park Audabon to do what is expected of them to come and come to their classes and be respectful of each other. I will model that from the top down. So just want to make sure to reiterate that for any parents that are concerned about their kids coming to school district, let me know and we'll try to make sure that we uh figure something out. Thank you. Any questions for me regarding this? these policies. Is there anything you want to add, Marge? >> No,
008I think we covered everything. >> Okay, >> sounds good. 4.0 staff reports. >> We have 4.1. Superintendent, did you have anything to present? >> Um, yeah. I just I just I just will give you an update on some things. Um, I have really been delving into the to the budget and the finances and I really want to thank uh Sherry and Susie for their help in the process. We meet every Monday with Cecil at 10:00 for an hour to an hour and a half. We meet every Monday. We talk about the budget. I did mention today again to the person Janetta is her name and we are going to have a budget meeting towards the end of August. Remember, you might recall the last meeting I said between August 13th and the end of August,
009we'll have a budget finance meeting there. So, one of the things we have to make sure to include is our August 13th meeting has to be a special board meeting because Mr. Cole Wix will be sworn in that day. And then also, this district only has five committees. So maybe we need to look at the committee structure for sure and find out if there's anything else that as a board as a district we feel should uh be part of the committee structure because the five right now are I will mention that and this gets approved in January it is negotiations finance policy transportation and facilities meet and confer okay so those are the five committees we currently app. You might recall in January they have a reorganization meeting. Maybe you already know all this, so
010just bear with me. That's when they decide, you know, who's going to be our bank, who's going to be our lawyer, uh who's going to be our auditor, who's going to be the board chair, the clerk, and everything else. So, um it's something we have to make sure to put down in August to get that going. Our second readings of these policies then will be on the August 13th agenda. Sound good? Any questions? >> Madam Chair, may I and Cecil she is from going to work out of Biji, right? >> Yep. Um, actually we've been doing Zoom calls and I'll be honest, I'm pleasantly surprised that we didn't get somebody from Minneapolis St. Paul area. >> I'm glad >> because I would have probably not liked that to be honest with you and transparent. But
011I so far have really enjoyed working with this gal. And she actually has another person who's a former business manager in Albany area, if you know where that is in the interstate. And then of course Sherry is very uh getting up to date. We're working very hard on with this lady and um I think they're doing a good job so far. >> I'm just glad it's a little bit closer just in case, you know, maybe she could >> Yeah. And I did tell her if I need if we need to be uh to go up there or she comes down here, we're more than willing to do that. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's good though, Randy. >> Yeah. Um also periodically I'm going to send updates out to board members. You would have received that last
012week. I definitely want to do it on the agenda. But remember, if you have any questions on any items on the agenda, please let me know because I'm not going to hide anything. I I don't want people to think, geez, Dr. Burke was hiding things on the agenda. No, I'm not. Okay. Another thing I think we need to talk about is do we actually want to and I brought this up to you two ladies last week. Do we actually want to uh video stream our work session? I don't know what why we have in the past. That's whatever. But maybe that's something we don't need to continue to do our work session the first part of each month because that's an opportunity for us to sit down and talk about things, right? And I think
013protecting ourselves as a district and as a board, we have to be very careful what we say. Now, if we don't have if we don't show it on the video, it's not because I'm trying to hide something. If people want to come to the work session, guess what? We have chairs out here or it'll be an ottoman. We have chairs out there. They can come and see that. And people can come in and ask me any questions they want. I'll show them exactly what we're talking about. So, we're not trying to hide anything. Just want to throw that out there as well. Think about it. Thank you, >> Dr. Burrquist. I'd like to say we only have been uh live streaming them the work sessions not that long. >> We haven't. No. Okay. >> A
014short period of time. >> That was changed maybe a year ago or something. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, we used to not >> uh live stream them. >> I mean, if you want to continue, that's fine. That's your prerogative as a board. So, just keep me posted. >> Yeah. Something to think about. >> That's all I have right now. Unless anybody has any specific questions for me. >> I did get your email. >> Oh, did you? Okay, perfect. Thanks. And I will periodically do updates to our staff as well. Um, just to kind of let them know and I want staff to feel comfortable if they ever have any questions, have an open door policy, they can come and see me. Um, if they have any concerns about anything or have any,
015you know, need any updates or anything like that, I will definitely do that. Okay. I guess I would have a question and maybe I can't answer ask it but just working with Cisco Cisco >> CEO >> had a cat called Cisco sorry so Cecil are we finding opportunities to help preserve and get our budget under control are there >> yes stuff out there that >> there is some stuff out there um let me give you an example okay first of all it's not a secret I'm very concerned about the budget as a superintendent. I think as a school board we're concerned about the budget. Um something that and I'm not saying anything negative about anybody. I don't want people to come across like that but we have we approved something in March for staff development
016approximately $95,000 worth of things for staff development. Uh, one of the things working with CISO is that we can use that staff development money to offset offset the costs of teachers and pair of professionals on workshop days. Okay? For example, when we have a workshop day in August, instead of paying that out of the general fund, we can use our staff development money. If we're in SOD or close to SOD, statutory operating debt, we don't have to get approval from the teachers union. if we're not and we want to use those to carry over um we have to get approval from the teachers unit. But those are some things um worked with the principles. I know in the past that um and I'm sure people will be upset about this. There was a program here
017I get can't remember the name of it. Um there there's a program here um but we're not going to purchase that um because a big part of that chunk of cash was the speaker to come for two days and it was approximately $12,000 and I didn't think we I wanted to do that. So yes, we're trying to find ways um you know I I got to give CESO a lot of credit but I also have to you know admin I met with the admin. I said we got to tighten our belt. So I'm I'm working that includes the activities director, the principles um working very hard on that. So thank you. I hope that answers your question. Thank you. >> Dr. Burkus, let me ask how close do we have to be to SOD to
018not ask the teachers union? >> Well, I'm I'm sorry. >> What percent? >> SOD if we're in or close SOD, we don't have to ask. What is there a certain percent that >> Well, no, but and I guess I don't know this, but you as a board would have established what percentage our fund balance is. >> Oh, okay. >> At and I guess I don't know that at this point. I should know that. I'm sorry. I don't know that. Usually, it's 10 to 12 to 15 to 20%. Um, but if we're an SOD, we do not have to ask the teachers union. If even if we're close to SOD, I think it'd be appropriate to ask the teachers union as well >> because we're all in this together for our students. >> Yep. >> So
019hopefully that answers your question. >> No, that does answer. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. 4.2 Technology Director. Is he presenting or Nope. Everybody's read the report. >> Yes. >> 4.3 activities director. Everybody's read the report. Uh, I have met with Mr. Schultz um probably I don't know a couple times in the last couple weeks. We've talked about athletics and activities. Um, and I do appreciate that he's being very transparent with all this information right here. So, you know, if you have questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. >> 4.4 transportation director. Nothing on there. No, I haven't also met with each one of these individuals I've met with. Um Oh, go ahead. >> Yeah, I was going to say I Dr. Burrquist, I think I heard you say on our policy meeting that we
020have enough bus drivers for this next year. Right. >> Correct. Right. >> Yes. Um Madam Chair, we do. And I'm actually really impressed because every district that I know of is short of bus drivers. So, I want to give Mr. Jensen and the bus drivers credit for the hard work. I would not personally last a week being a bus driver. So I want to thank um all the bus drivers for their hard work >> and 4.5 building and crowns. Nothing to present. >> No, I actually um had a nice uh visit with Mike Zick. We went through the Lake Park site. Um Lori Christensen from IC. I see he's in the audience there. She also uh went through it with us. And we also went through Aottabon. I have a list of items that still
021need to be approved through ICS to to kind of figure get figured out. Um, but I know the the custodial group is working very hard. So, and I actually So, I've toured the all the buildings, the out buildings, um, robotics, shad garage, and everything else. So, >> Matt, may I ask a question? How are the bleachers coming? >> They're supposed to be in on August 14th, I believe. fourth. >> They're gonna start installing on August 4th. >> August 4th. Thank you. I should I was thinking 14. August 4th. And I've been over there. They they've cleaned the area up and I'm really excited about that. So, >> me too. >> Yeah. That'll be pretty awesome. >> Huh? >> It's my gym. >> If you can call it that. >> Huh? >> If you can call
022it that. >> 5.0 consent agenda. Can I get a motion to approve our consent agenda? >> I'll motion it. >> Can I get a second? Second. Is there any discussion to the motion of approving our consent agenda? Any discussion? The motion passes. 6.0 recognitions. 6.1 Resolution accepting donations. Can I get a motion to approve our recognitions? So moved. >> Can I get a second? >> Second. >> Is there any discussion to the motion of approving our recognitions? Any discussion? Uh, read them first and then do a roll call vote. Right. >> Yes, madam. Chair. Thank you. >> Okay. Resolution accepting donations and grants. Whereas Minnesota statutes 123b.02 2 subdivision 6 provides the board may receive for the benefit the district bequest donations or gifts for any proper purpose and apply the same to the purpose
023designated in that behalf the board may act as a trustee of any trust created to provide pupils of the district with advanced education after completion of high school in the advancement of education and whereas Minnesota statutes 465.03 03 provides any city, county, school district, or town may accept a grant or device of real or personal property and maintain such property for the benefits of its citizens in accordance with the terms prescribed by the donor. Nothing where herein shall authorize such acceptance for use for religious or secretarian purposes. Every such acceptance shall be by resolution of the governing body adopted by twothirds majority of its members expressing such terms in full. And whereas such every such acceptance shall be a resolution of the governing body adopted by twothirds majority of its members expressed in such terms
024in full. Therefore, it be resolved that the Lake Park Ottabon School District number 2889 gratefully accepts the following donations as identified. Fishing, we have a 500 don donation from team uh Lake Park Fire Department, $2,500. Football, Abbott, Arie Schwint Incorporated, $500. Team, $300. $300. Miscellaneous National FFA Organization, $370 to FFA. Uh CAF America, $66 general donation resource training and solutions, $600 to PBIS. Uh we'll do a roll call vote. Uh all those in favor say I. All those opposed say nay. Marge I >> Jade >> I >> Sarah >> I >> Susan I the vote on the adoption of the resolution was as follows uh five five eyes what zero nays four eyes zero nays thank you Lake Park Audabon for your continued generosity I was thinking Aaron was here okay we have 7.0 old
025business we have no old business we have 8.0 new business. Uh, can I get a motion to approve our new business? >> So, move. >> Can I get a second? >> Second. >> Is there any discussion to the motion of approving our new business? Uh, I guess my is the long-term facility maintenance contract and all that. Is is that something that we're we're looking at? >> Yep. So, um, want to give Lori some credit here. Um, when Lori and I discussed this, um, IC was going to charge us approximately 3200 $3,500. Uh Lori said that we didn't need to pay that and that she was still going to present tonight if I wanted her to. This is something that the school district has done with ICS for a couple years now. I believe it's a
026long >> third year long-term facilities maintenance is basically in a nutshell a 10-year plan of things that we need to do uh in our district. Maybe it's roofs, maybe it's tuck pointing, whatever it might be. We have to as soon as that gets approved tonight, we will send that to Sarah Miller at the Minnesota at state Minnesota permanent education because that has to be finalized by July 31st. Every every year you do it as a as a school board. So um yes, I think that answered your question, Jade. So, have we prior to three years ago, what was being used and how was the long-term plan being do we does anyone know on that? >> I mean, why I wouldn't assume you would I mean >> I've been on the board two and a half
027years. >> Okay. So it's just >> basically it started long time with the schools >> with the you know >> prior to or we're using because of the new school is why we would have started using ICS. >> Do you want me to? >> Yes. My name we call first of all this is Christensen from maybe you all know her already. No from ICS. >> So nice to meet you. Thank you for letting me be part of your board meeting. Um so back in 2020 when we started working with the school district um the main focus was on the elementary and they knew that was the biggest focus. Um we helped submit their LTFM plan um going forward. So actually this funding source I'm not sure how familiar you are but it started in 2014
028and it's something that the school district has available to do different maintenance and really like forlike projects that um maintain help maintain your buildings. Uh so once the referendum was successful and kind of getting close the elementary was in construction um the previous superintendent was getting nervous that this building they wanted to get better handle on where are we at with this building and not lose sight of some bigger expenditures. Um, so that's where MDE really, the LTFM flat, they like the 10year lookout, but let's be honest, um, you have to go three. Three years, you could probably be realistic. You know, I mean, you can say a roof can last 20 years, 25 years. Um, but until you get closer to that, you don't really know how how you should be what year you
029should expect to replace it. Um, so that was three years ago. your previous soup said, "Hey, can we get a better handle on this building?" So, we did an indepth assessment of this facility and used a a program that we have at CIP 360 for capital improvement planning um and use that to focus on this. So, we've been working throughout the year. we meet with uh the facility director and kind of work through some projects they're working on and just try to get a handle of the revenue you guys have been coming in and what projects you should look for in the future. That's kind of where >> So, one of the things Thank you, Lori. One of the things Lori and Mike and I walked around I don't know like two weeks ago here
030in Lake Park and found some things that we need to get fixed like uh some leakage on a wall over by the washer and dryer. Um which Lori had some good ideas. Mike and I just kind of walked around and we also have some tiling that's buckling up towards when you walk in by the the trophy cases. Um so we've got some ideas on that. also by the I think it's the band or the choir room some buckling. So, we've talked about those type of things. The long-term facilities maintenance plan like she said is 10 years. It's a working or a living document kind of like the constitution. And remember, I might have mentioned this to you before, I can't remember. If you take this building, you turn it upside down and shake it. Everything
031that falls down cannot be used for long-term facilities maintenance. So these things, you can't use LTFM money on this, but if you have a cracked wall right there, you sure can. Okay? And we get an allocated amount every single year. Each district does. The state has talked in the last couple years about getting rid of long-term facilities maintenance. Um, but I think it's a great program, especially for schools, in my opinion, out in greater Minnesota that need that extra help to get some of these projects done. >> So, how often are you involved in our facility? Because we have a facility manager. >> Mhm. >> And we had facility issues throughout the year and now that's something that's been done. So, how often does your company come through to do that? we don't come through
032that often. Um, so we did an initial assessment and then we work with Mike now. So I mean, and it's not just me. I have a couple guys to network with me. He's probably talked to maybe 10 times this year, this past year. Um it you know and it was for him I think it was good because he had a list of things that Aaron who was here a year ago that was your previous uh facility director he was kind of working through stuff right and now Mike is like oh boy where do I start? What do I do? Um we're available for calls anytime and we're here to help. Uh and you know it's we're not necessarily on site unless you ask us to meet and we're pretty flexible on that and that's >>
033so >> just wanting to get a good plan for you guys. >> So you guys put the plan together to basically you put the report together to send it to state is what we're paying IC for then as a district. >> We have in the past but we um they have a list of things that you know we've worked on and everything else. >> That report will be sent to the state tomorrow. >> Sure. >> Because we need a resolution on that. >> Correct. and you have that, you know what, honestly, you could just put numbers in and you guys could just kind of say, "Hey, let's just to to input the data isn't that hard because they >> really just have different coding that you can just say, ah, we're going to spend this
034much on this category." It's just the data behind it. Like, what does that mean? If you're going to project you're going to spend 50,000 on mechanical systems, what does that mean? And what really gets to be valuable is this building um is a geothermal system. And so you have bigger projects that as a board you really should be talking about how are we going to pay for those in the future and that's where we can help you guys look at different funding sources, different plans on how you handle that. uh right now just because of some challenges you've had with some of your heat pumps, you kind of said, "Okay, we're going to do three. You did three water to water heat pumps last year." That got it under that bidding law threshold and it
035kind of fit into some funding you have, right? You had a balance in your LTFM, so you could pay for that. You're not going to be able to continue to do that. Um you have about 65 water to air you're not going to be able to afford that, you know, with this funding source. Okay? So, now it's like, well, let's not get in a situation where where we're super reactive. We can be there to help you guys be proactive. So, that that's the value we bring. But, I mean, >> no, that's what I was going to ask. I mean, are you assisting with us having a proactive uh taking care of our air to or water to water heat pumps? I mean, do we have a program because of you guys servicing these and and
036doing the maintenance that we need to be doing on an annual or quarterly or are we >> we don't we don't do maintenance. >> Okay. Um >> but are you providing that data to us on this is what we should be happening to the water to water >> heat pumps. >> I think they're more just writing up the LTFM and LTFM that's not as much the basic day-to-day stuff like the electrical needs in a classroom and stuff like that. it'd be more just the water boilers or the roof or major construction stuff. The 10ear out plan when we look at it out, although it >> all of a sudden when we had the boiler issue, we had to move them up. Then remember we had the were you guys here when we had the theater
037lights and all of a sudden we had to push them back. So can be a little give and take. >> But um >> here's an example too. You know, you know when you go into the bathroom, you have that >> there's three faucet type things, right? Mhm. >> We just had to spend $4,000 on a component in there because we couldn't find any aftermarket things. $4,000 for one bathroom area. Very expensive some of these items. And I finding more and more of the geothermal you were talking about. How much was each one of those things you were we were talking about before that? >> Well, they heat them. >> Yeah. They can be, you know, they can be 70,000 a piece once it's installed. 50. You know, it kind of depends what the size of
038it in what area it handles, but you times that by 16 units. >> Yeah. >> And Lori too, also um gentleman named Colin from ICS um came in to Audabon and we did 11month walkth through um and I think I kind of mentioned that. I have a report on that. You want to I mean I know you kind of work hand inand with him with the that component. Could you just briefly explain that Lori? Uh well, so um I'm on the planning side and on kind of the the initial partnership with our with our clients. Colin is a project manager and so he was the one who oversaw your construction project at the elementary. So now it was completed um a year ago is when they turned it over with to back to the district
039and so now we do an 11month walk through and what that's doing is contractors have a 12year warrant or 12 well I wish it was 12 years 12 month warranty proc uh uh that they have to provide. So, we just come in and we want to make sure we capture anything that's not working or maybe something happened over the last 11 months so we can get it in within that warranty period. That's what Colin was doing last week with you as a district. Y >> um and we just don't we just we really don't go anywhere. I mean, we're here to to close it out and make sure you guys have everything running great. And um but he works on the construction side and I'm more on the planning side. >> Correct. Did that answer
040your questions? >> I think so. >> Okay. And she'll go over it too, right, Lori? You're the plan itself in just a little. Yeah, I do have a presentation if you want, but it's kind of >> Yeah. Do you have to finish saying any discussion? >> No. Yeah, I don't. I just Okay. Thank you. >> Any other discussion? >> Okay. The motion is as stated is carried. Okay. And then we have 8.1 LTFM report and resolution approval. And yes, if you want to. >> It's going to be a little bit of a repeat, but do you want me to hook up or did you have >> No, that's um >> or do you have the PDF or do you guys have it in front of you? We do have it in front. >> We do.
041Yeah, I sent it out. So, >> be casual if you guys are okay with it. Um, so just because I know >> right there seats right here. >> Oh, there we go. >> You do have a Okay. >> Um, so just wanted to give you a little history. Um, I can see. Thank you. >> Yeah. if you want to go to the next slide. Okay, so this is IC as a company and we talked about it just a little bit. We, you know, we're really the we help with planning. Margie knows this well. We help with planning, building, you know, we can do the implementation once funding is approved and then operating your buildings. and and that's kind of what this LTFM plan is about where it's just a continuous um operation of your facilities
042and making sure that they're running well. So, we offer all of these services. We started in 2006 and our main focus is with K12 school districts within Minnesota. So, we've had the pleasure to to work with the Lake Park Ottabon School District for a while. And that's the next slide. Randy, if you want to go to the next slide. Oh, >> Susie's got it. Oh, Susie. Thank you, Susie. >> Thank you, Sue. >> Um, so this is the history that we I talked about already just a little bit. You know, in 2020 is when we first got hired by the district for long range facility planning, and that's where we focused on the elementary needs. 2021 is where we were successful to pass that referendum, which was really exciting, and that was your first attempt.
043So that was that was great. Um and especially with the times at that time it was a kind of chaotic but uh it was a very successful referendum and and then construction for that project which was mainly that elementary and I'm assuming you've all walked through it because good good because it's really fun. It was that transformation was amazing. Um we did have a couple things here at the elementary or at the high school with the CTE edition and some renovations. So that also got included in that referendum and that all everything was completed in 2024. Um then continued like we said we have the relationship with the the CIP3 software and that's where we I think we have maybe I don't know there could be about 500 600 different items that you're looking at
044um needing to keep an eye on throughout the next 10 years. So, we have a quick question for because I see >> the presentation that you're doing now, you would have done in 22, 23, and 24. Correct. >> It it not necessarily. It really depended on the superintendent's uh preference. >> Okay. >> Yes. So, sometimes I'm here if if you want me to be and sometimes the superintendent chooses to do that. >> Okay. Um but throughout those years um we I would meet with your facility director two or three times a year at least and then we would just um also work with your business manager making sure what is coded to LTFM because you'll see on the expenditure worksheet you need to show what you spent last year and make sure it's coded correctly.
045So making sure like Randy had said on um what qualifies that it qualifies and it's in the right code before it gets sent to MDE. So I would work with the business manager too on that. You go to the next slide, Susie. And this is just describing what we've talked about a little bit on the eligibility of the different projects. Uh it's not for renovations or expansions of your district buildings. Um and things such as uh here at the high school you don't have a track. So we wouldn't be able to add a track. That's not something that you could say we're going to use these funds for. But let's say you decide to add a track and you want to get new lights out there. We could use LTFM for the lights. So sometimes
046you want to be strategic on different funding based on what your priorities and preferences are. And if you go down a little bit further, Susie, >> how about grounds? >> Yep. You can use for grounds. Are you thinking like um >> so irrigation? >> Yes. >> Yep. And that's something I'll be honest, has been on your list for a while and it keeps kind of getting pushed off based on some other needs that come up. >> So the beginning fund balance you can see is 331,000. Lori not mean to steal your thunder. >> Go ahead. Yeah. >> We get approximately 250,000 per year. And remember, we can carry that on to the next year. We don't have to lo use it or lose it. Okay. >> Go ahead. >> Yep. So that that is a
047very nice fund balance. >> Yes, it is. >> And there's a couple ways that looking at that, too. Some people are saving up to do those bigger projects, so they'll hold a big fund balance. Um, LTFM does allow you to also bond. So, let's say you wanted to do a project that was a million dollars. you could bond for a million dollars and then use a portion of that 250,000 you receive each year to pay for that bond um payment >> over like 10 years or something like that. >> Y and then the remaining amount is what you would have to do yearly maintenance. >> Okay, Susie, you go to the next slide. Okay, this is just our support on the the CIP3 and this is it tracks your deferred maintenance. It also when we
048first put all this together, we went through and we talked about if um some of these projects have soft costs, which would be um uh if you have um engineers and architects that would be required to be part of the project. if you want to have any sort of contingency for the project, if it needs to go through plan review, those types of things. Um, we just if we felt like that was a type of project that the deferred maintenance would require, we add that on there so you as a district can be planful. The budgets we come up with are just for you guys to have the best plan available. Um, our software also adds any inflation. So if you put it in three years ago and you're planning for an expenditure in five
049years, that inflation rate um gets added on. So in five years you actually have the funds needed versus an old price that that is um not enough to handle that today's cost. Um and then yeah, we're just looking at how do we prioritize your needs with the revenue available. So you can go to the next slide, Susie. And this is just a nice little graphic of what this software does. And you can keep going down. So it's just managing your budget, prioritizing your needs, and then just continuing to align the improvements with what you want to do as a district. Okay. So this is your uh last year's projects that you guys completed. Um this funding does pay for health and safe is a funding source for health and safety. So, that's going to be
050your fire um inspections, Lakes Country Service Quad, they do a health and safety service for you as a district, testing, elevators. >> So, that is part of what you guys used these funds for last year. Um you had some building hardware >> like Randy talked about. You had some plumbing repairs and I think that was also a water soft or water heater in that repair. um some electrical improvements and really your biggest expenditure that was 260,000 I think um was your water to water heat pumps and we did three of the six um and then there were some sidewalks and concrete repairs. So you can see uh that 352,000 is what you spent last year and the majority of that are those heat pumps. If you go to the next slide, this is what is
051on your plan for this coming year. And it so and that would be what expenditures we're thinking between July 1st and next June 30th. Um again using it for the health and safety. You right now have a proposal for three water to water heat pumps, the remaining three. So that's on there. Keep in mind if if some of these don't happen or you choose not to, you're not locked into that. It's just what you feel what today what we know and what we think we're going to spend it on. Um you have a re hot water research pump. There are um two sections of the elementary school roof that we would recommend get replaced. Um and I just have a little graphic on the right there so you can see those sections. Um, there's some
052bus garage doors the front. I think those are just man doors. It's not a huge expense, but Mike and I talking about that. He said to keep those buildings secure and safe, and he said those doors need to get replaced. some security cameras at the high school here, the high school intercom upgrades, and then um there was a quote for seal coating and restriping of your high school and elementary school parking lots. >> So, Lori, I want to ask this question, okay? Because I'm guessing some people are thinking this, so I'm just going to ask him like the high school intercom system, right? I know we we have a I saw a quote for that. To me, it seems very high, >> right? Does ICS go out and contact three companies to get bids or
053is that in the past or has that been Mike our building a grounds guy? >> It depends if you so um our fee to do this doesn't include implementing any projects but if it said hey IC will you run this project for us? Um like at Freyszy we're doing a pickle ball court for them and new parking lots then we could but it would be at a cost. I would have to then bring Colin onto our the project and there would be a fee. >> Um, but that's whereas if Mike can do it, you know, sometimes things like that, it's like you'd be better off as a district not paying us, right, and having Mike handle that. >> I appreciate the honesty because that's what I was thinking, Lori. >> Yeah. >> Um, I do
054appreciate that. In your opinion, and maybe you're gonna What is our biggest need in Lake Park? What is our at the high school building? What's our biggest need at the elementary building at this time? What do you, if I was to put you on the spot, which I am, >> what do you think is the biggest need right now? >> Your roof sections at the elementary are your biggest need that that at your elementary school is really where there was a few things back in 2021 that we would like to have gotten more roofs into that project, but with the crazy inflation at that time, I mean, it was changing weekly and there were things that we had to like adjust. There was contingency that was put towards other things, so they ended up not
055doing the roofs, but I would highly recommend it. >> Like, is that Barb Johnson's office and ECF E and F? >> It's ECF for sure. I don't know where Barb Johnson is. I don't know where >> Secretary is. Yeah. >> Oh, thank you. Yes, it is. >> It is. It is. >> Yeah. And really, maybe we could get that I in there, too. Um, >> who who is it that identified this? >> Uh, this was a combination of Colin and then now that Tekka America was your latest um roofing roofing contractor that you guys are in contract with >> whom's never been on one of our roofs in our >> correct. So that's why I I'm asking this because I I mean nothing against you and ICS, but I really prefer that we do it
056internally, figure this stuff out, you know what I mean? Can you get out there and get three beds or whatever? You know what I mean? Or am I >> for the roofs or for every project? >> Oh, just just for for like the roofs for example, right? >> Well, I I one is identifying I mean we have a director of facility maintenance manager that should be able to walk on the roof and identify our concerns. >> Right. My concern is now we're contracted with a roofing company that has never been on one of our roofs. And we've had other roofing companies that's very rehearsed with our roofs that knows exactly what we do need and we kick them to the wayside. >> Well, nothing's been contracted with that company. Odd to me, just so you
057know, >> I don't I haven't signed anything. >> Okay. >> Unless something was done before my time. >> It was Yeah, I'm afraid. and we weren't part of that conversation >> and we should have never because we have a company that is probably pretty comfortable with our roof system right now. Now we have not that relationship. >> Okay. >> Because of our doing >> uh not ours. >> I mean not ours as in the board. I just I guess I meant >> in the past 60 days >> and I think it's best practice to gather more than one bid. I I agree >> and I I believe in um the treasurer training there's a certain amount to it. Is it like 150,000? You have to gather multiple bids. >> Yeah. >> I thought I thought
058for a school system you do >> bids one 50,000 you can do just one >> one price. If it's if it's 17 >> 175 >> If it's 50 to 175 then you're supposed to get three. If it's over 175 you should publicly bid it. Yes, >> that that's that's the co the requirement on that. >> And Jade, I I understand your concern. And I ran this by Colin, too, because he's been on your roofs and he's been part of we've seen what the previous did. We know what the the current did has recommended, and then we also have been on your roof. So, that's where those sections came from. I um and I ran that back by him because I was like, well um and however you guys want to manage getting that work done
059is is up to you as a district. Um but that those would be the sections I would recommend you guys focus on. Um G, D, and H also know need to get done. Um and just make sure your G is that elementary um or that older gymnasium. >> Yeah. And just make sure if if that gets done um you do you do well D and H. Don't do D and H before you do G just because of if you look at like the traffic flow and how to get onto the roofs. You just want to make sure you're not in the future replacing a roof that you have to >> work on >> or we'll have to go over a brand new roof, Jay, to get to a new to a place that you have
060to work. So those would just be our recommendations at this point for the elementary. We've been working on these for years >> on the roofs. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> There is a new funding mechanism. So, and that's a slide I think. >> Yeah. That's coming up >> coming up. But, um, the legislature did approve this last session that you can levy above and beyond your LTFM dollars to to do roof improvements and replacement. And that could be something else you guys look at as a district because this building too will need to be you'll need to get that in the near future with your roofs. Um, and that way you're not stealing that 250,000 and trying to do you know I mean there roofs no longer I mean you don't you barely
061can get under that 175 for each se each section, >> right? >> And I mean I Okay, well we know what time it is. There we go. Um, and I would just say, um, a roofing contractor is going to want you to do it per little section so you can get under that bid. And and that's just what they're going to recommend. It's a way, it is a way to do it. Um, but I'm not sure if it's always the best way to do it. And then at your high school, I really think you need to be looking at your heat pumps. Heat pumps are a 10 to 15 year life expectancy. and they're just a really expensive component to replace. Um, ideally it would be where you just take one down and put one
062up. Um, but we know or um suppliers change dimensions. We know they may not be the same brand. So before you know it, you're changing some piping, you have a plumber, a electrical, mechanical, you might have to change some duct work fittings and they just get to be expensive controls. So that's something here at the high school you should be planful of that the irrigation's been on there for a long time. >> So we did three last year, three water, water, >> water to water. >> So you and we have it on this year. Are we in any sort of situation to where we being they were going to be so close together that we had a potential to capitalize on cost savings? >> Yeah. >> I mean was there or are we in a
063do does anyone know? I mean because I mean we're within 12 I mean >> right so what you're saying Lori so if I'm understanding this correctly so we did three heat pumps last year right that would have been a year ago would have said hey look we need to do three heat pumps coming up right >> I assume the company that did the heat pumps would be interested in doing more heat pumps for us this year coming up >> right >> which is what you have a price for yep >> okay >> and is that what you're kind of asking if we get a better deal because of it Were we in a situation where they were aware that we had these three coming up and they negotiated a number on that or are we
064just starting all over with these three and the cost is the cost? >> I can't answer that because we were not brought into that conversation. >> Um, but you are going to be and that's something where you're going to see a slide where I'm just going to put this out on the table and I'm just going to say you should be thinking about these things because you're right. If you were to do a bigger project, you're going to save money. >> Y >> because if you have to bring those contractors back to to mobilize every single year, >> it's going to cost a lot more. And then >> I are you guaranteed to have the same um manufacturer brand? >> Well, that's just it. You know, you end up with three this year, next year,
065you got different three and then you don't have parts that and then you got just a hodge podge of everything. >> Yeah. So, those are things that um I think are really should be focused at least at your facility um committee meetings should be focused and if you >> if you would want me at any of those, I'd be more than happy to come to them. Um it's just up to you as a district how you want to. >> Thank you. >> Yep. Your your seal coating and restriping though of this high school parking lot. That needs to happen too. You guys are going to get into a situation where you're going to have to do a complete um mill and or you're going to have to completely >> do another overlay. >> Yes. If
066you wait too long, those cracks as they get too big and aren't taken care of, you're going to get in trouble and you'll just have to redo the whole thing. >> So, of all the roofs we're looking at, do we does your company have when they had been last replaced? Is that current? So, you could tell us when K was last replaced versus M versus L? >> We We could. Yes. Yep. We do have that information. Yeah. >> So, that is your expected expenditures for next year. But just remember, you had a fund balance. You did spend that down a little bit, but you're going to if you go to the next slide. I don't think I'm quite there yet. Uh maybe I don't. This is thinking beyond. This is kind of what we talked
067about. This is these are the four things that I think you guys should be thinking about. Heat pump replacements are expensive. Yeah, >> we need 60 of them. That's crazy. >> It is a common practice when you guys built this building. >> Geothermal. >> That was geothermal. It was a common system to be put in. I don't do it very often anymore. Um because you run into this and it's not even been that long. Feels like a new building. Right. >> Yep. >> And so it's just like Yeah. It's hard because now you're going to be stuck with that every 20 years, 15 10 15 years, 20 years. I mean, they they have a compressor in them and they only are going to last so long. When you think of a um an air handling
068system, you have an air handler with a fan, your compressor, if it's a rooftop, the compressor is probably in it. If it's um if it's an indoor unit, you probably have an outdoor unit that service is the cooling. But then throughout your building, you're just working with um you know an actuator that controls a control valve. That that's all you have to change. That VAV box will modulate air and not have to it doesn't have a compressor. But it was a system, trust me, the engineers and the local utility companies back when this was built that was just we put a lot of them in honestly. And I didn't put this one in, but I'm just I know it's common. So don't feel like ah why would we have done that? They require a lot
069of maintenance, don't they? >> They do. >> Consistent maintenance. Not maybe a lot of maintenance, but consistent maintenance. >> Yeah. And it's high cost. >> And are we? >> Huh? >> And are we >> are we keeping up on the maintenance? Does IC do you track when we have that maintenance or or No, >> we don't. That that level of that daytoday we don't do that. And you um you do have a contract with um GNR Controls and they're doing your they're on your building automation system and you guys have a seaman system. They're the ones who you do have a contract with and are are um they're the ones doing that day-to-day maintenance. I think they come on site four times a year. Yeah, we actually that was signed probably in June I think
070maybe May for that contract for that G&R. The only reason I remember because GNR is Guns and Roses, you know. So, but yeah. >> Now, wait a minute. Don't be don't be cancelceing my contract and not theirs just because of their name. >> So, ICS, you come in, you do an overview on a couple times a year telling us what we need to do. You try to manage on how our funds and where our funds go and that's what your company does. It's still our responsibility to do all the making sure the maintenance is getting done with their maintenance director. >> Correct. >> All the way down to crack tiles, >> plumbing leaks, door handles, >> changes, you know, we don't we've talked about tracking that for districts. Um >> Well, that's is dayto day
071stuff. Yep. And we have some >> we've talked about and it depends on your facility director, you know, like they could have something on their their building automation system to notify them like change these filters and y >> and that's the trouble with those heat pumps, too. Every one of those heat pumps have a filter in them. >> So, that's a lot of filters you're changing. >> Um, but yeah, that that's on your director, facility director. >> Um, and then the other thing we're going to do is we're going to help you be creative. um on funding and like your parking lots if you need it. We can use like abatement bonds. >> Yeah, >> we're we're good at different, you know, what does what does a district have available to you and what can
072you use it for? >> Because, you know, knowing things are out there is one thing. How are we going to pay for them and and do something that's um fiscally responsible with your taxpayers? That's a whole different conversation, right? So that that's what we do. But and this is that new legislature that allows roofs to be bonded above and beyond if it's over $100,000. Mike was at some of those meetings, so that was good, too. He was advocating for it. We spoke at the legislature for about two years now. We've we have had the opportunity to speak on behalf of rural school districts and just say, "Hey, this is, you know, 250,000 does not get you everything that you need because the roofs are just one small component." So, this was >> Yeah. And we
073also felt very passionate that um that school districts wouldn't take advantage of that because you're people don't love to get new rows, right? It's more of just having an option for you guys as board members to maintain a wellheld, you know, well a building that can be watertight. And >> with with the roofing, does the state mandate on the type of roof that we use on a flat roof or is it >> they they don't mandate it. Um, you know, there's three different types that you could use. The ballasted, the direct adhered, or a builtup. Um you're the the directed hearing is what we find it's going to be um Margie you were trying to do a pitch drip at the elementary. I know you I know this conversation. Yes, I remember [Laughter] >> cuz
074I lived it. I lived all those drips for years. >> They have come a long ways. They have >> what what did Colin tell me? He said that that just isn't feasible. Right. >> The pitch roof. >> Yeah. >> Or the state says you we cannot do that. Right. It depends on where it's at in the They don't say that, but you're also going to have to sprinkle. If you have an attic, you have to sprinkle that and then you have to do a dry sprinkler system. >> So, there is a lot more. There's And >> memory, Lori. Yeah. >> Yes. Yep. >> Can't we have this? Nope. >> Um, but you know what you're running into, Jade, is you're running into insurance companies um are not insuring buildings that the roof is not um
075been kept up. >> Oh, absolutely. or they're increasing those premiums and that's been a problem for school districts in the last year or two. >> That's for sure. >> They have caused a lot of problems. >> Reason I ask is that, you know, you can foam flat roofs and do urethane cover UV protectant on the top. Not many do it, >> but it can be done. And then when it comes to repair, you cut it out and reoam it and put urethane on it. You're good to go again. >> The old or building was that way. >> I've done a few myself. So I mean there's outside the box >> there's different ways. Yeah. Uh so next slide let's see just um these are going to be the four different uh documents that need to
076be submitted to MDE. Like Randy said the July 31st is the deadline for this plan to be submitted. Uh the te 10 tenyear revenue uh worksheet that's an Excel format or spreadsheet that comes right from MDE. So, we don't modify that. It's just as a district, you have to submit that. Uh the 10-year expenditure, that's the worksheet that talks about where you expect to be spending your funds. And then Ry's going to have to sign a statement of insurance assurance. And then tonight, uh the resolution is what you'd be looking to approve. >> Yep. So, those four documents get submitted um to the commissioner and um Sarah Miller and Lon would be the two that then approved those. >> So, you fill these IC fills these forms out or we fill these forms out. >>
077We did. >> You did. Okay. >> Yeah. So, Randy has these. >> I have these. Yep. >> Yep. And then this, if you go to the next one, Susie, this is our just a snapshot of what you're kind of can see for that revenue projection. So that's a onepage thing right there >> and it's Excel makes Yep. You know that you've done this many times. >> Yeah. >> Um so that's what you have as a school district. And then the next one is just a snapshot of your 10-year plan. >> Uh this is the top section is that health and safety. Uh the category two that's if you wanted to bond above and beyond your um uh the funds you receive. There's a couple categories that they do allow. and you'll see it's out there
078a little ways, but I do have um your fire safety just looking at the age of it. Um you know, in about seven years, you guys should be looking at replacing that. It's a bigger dollar amount, so I left that out there, but you can bond for it. Um but I just put it on there so you guys can see that as as it's going to come up here that you be want you want to be thinking about that. Um yeah. So then they have some different categories that category six. Let's see. We have accessibility. Where did they put our roofing one? >> Right there. >> Category six or five six. >> Yeah, >> my eyesight. I'm getting too old. Um so we have the top section there. That's all your different expenditures. And if
079you have this um in Google Docs, it'll be easier to read. Um, and then if you wanted to bond for your your roofs, that's at category six there below at the bottom. And they added this about three years ago, four years ago, they added the revenue. So you can see what your revenue is compared to your expenditures. And right now, I'm just going to say those items I said to think about are not included in your plan because it would put you at a major deficit spending. And you are allowed as a district to deficit spend, but you need to be able to come out of it somehow. So, they're not going to allow you to just keep that negative. And it wouldn't be good practice anyways um correct to do that. >> Don't want
080to. >> No, you don't want to. But there, you know, there expenditures that can be in the millions that you guys will have to just think about >> and someday, you know, figure out where we're going to put those and how we're going to pay those. But, but this is where you're at. just maintaining what you have and and nothing, you know, real that water to water is coming up, but other than that, we're just looking at some some different needs that we've identified. >> Thank you, Lori. >> Yeah. >> I don't have any questions or comments. >> Sorry, I maybe took longer than you. >> No, thanks. >> Thank you for presenting. >> You're welcome. Thank you guys for having me here. >> Yeah. Thanks for answering my questions. >> You're welcome. >> I'll
081come back anytime. So, good to see you. >> Lori, I would like to >> still not putting a pitched rope on this building here. >> I would like to um have a facilities meeting coming up sometime so we can kind of touch base where that is. Um and you know since you kind of part of this maybe you could >> absolutely >> you know out of your kind heart can come and >> without charging us and you know maybe sit down with us and kind of go from there if you're okay with doing that. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> We're here to be your partner. We really >> I know you are. >> Yeah. And so let however that looks. Who are you laughing at back then? >> No. I I heard somebody cough over
082there and I was just wasn't laughing anybody. >> No, I would have. Yes, I'd be happy to do that. So, >> okay. >> Well, thank you. We appreciate that. >> Yeah. Thank you, Lori. >> Have a good night. >> Okay. >> Thank you for coming. >> Yes. >> Hope you all had your questions answered and so forth. Um said it was very detailed and I appreciate IC doing that. So, thank you. >> Does anybody have any other questions on that? >> We have a lot of work to do. Yes, we do. >> Yes, we do. >> Well, we'll work hard. We'll work hard in this district. Okay. >> Go ahead and read this now then. Right. >> Yes, please. A resolution. >> Thank you. Pursuant to due call and notice thereof and regular meeting of
083the school board of independent of the school board of independent school district number 2889 Lake Park Ottabon Public Schools, State of Minnesota was held on July 28th, 2025 at 5:30 p.m. Member Susan Delique introdu introduced the following resolution and moved their adoption. Resolution to approve adopting the FY 27 long-term facility maintenance 10-year plan. Be it resolved by the school board of the independent school district number 2889 state of Minnesota as follows. Whereas to qualify the long-term facilities maintenance revenue Minnesota statutes subdivision 4 states the school district or intermediate district must annually adopt and approve a 10-year facilities plan by July 31st for commissioner approval. Whereas the school district has developed a 10-year long-term long-term facilities maintenance plan consistent with this law. Number one, the tenure facility plan is approved by the board and is incorporated
084in this resolution as through fully specified heron. The administration is authorized and directed to submit to the commissioner such additional information as may be necessary to secure the approval of the commissioner for the 10ear facility plan as required by Minnesota statutes section 123b 595. the submission of a proposed plan and the request for approval prior to the date of the resolution is ratified and approved at all respects. Number two, the district further convents to comply with all procedures now or hereafter established by the Minnesota Department of Education pursuant to Minnesota statute section 123b and otherwise to take such actions as necessary to comply with that statute. The chair, clerk, or superintendent is authorized to execute any applicable Minnesota Department of Education forms. We need to do a roll call on it. That's what I thought.
085Okay, we will do a roll call vote. >> Yes. >> Uh March, >> yes. >> Karen, >> yes. >> Uh Jade, >> yeah. >> Sarah, >> yes. >> Susan, I uh five in favor. I zero nays. The motion passes. The resolution passes. Great. Thank you for doing that. I'll make sure to get those forms turned in tomorrow and get confirmation from the Minnesota Department of Education, uh Sarah Miller, who I know pretty well, nice lady, and we'll definitely um make sure to get us on the list to approve it. Okay. >> And then 8.2 approve addition of school board member Marge Padine and Janette Leferi. Did I pronounce that one right? Oh, Lefay. >> No, no, no. It's >> Janetta. This is the CESO one though. >> Yeah, this is a CISO one. Oh, >>
086La fury. Okay, we'll go with that. Cecilo business service services to the district's bank account at Stain Bank of Lake Park. >> I'll make a motion. >> Okay, and I get a second. >> Second it. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. All those opposed say nay. >> Motion passes. 8.3 business edition of 8.4 Four, read first policies 413, 425, 501, 503, 514, 522, 707, and 709. >> Mr. Chairwoman, real quick, um the staff development and mentoring policy 425, which is on here. Um I'm going to resurrect the staff development committee. Um, so we'll have a by state stat state statute, we're supposed to have a site committee at the elementary, a site committee at the high school, and then an overall district site committee or overall district. So I'll be sending out
087some information to the teachers. It's supposed to be mainly made up of teachers. Um, so we're going to resurrect that again here in this district. >> Dr. Burquist, did you say you had wanted one school board member on there? >> Yep. I would like one school board member on there >> give back committee reports >> and then we could add that to our next meeting when we're doing committee adoptions. >> Correct. >> So we'll have an extra committee. >> Uh okay. Can I get a motion to approve the first read on the policies? >> So moved. >> Second. >> All those in favor say I. I. I. >> I. All those opposed say nay. >> Motion approves with five eyes. Uh okay. And then we have succeeding meetings. 9.1 schoolboard special session August 13 2025
0885:30 Lake Park Ottabon Elementary School Media Center. 9.2 regular monthly schoolboard meeting August 25th 5:30 Lake Park High School Media Center. >> Do we not have to motion for 8.3 because that's a different >> Yes. Oh, we do. Okay. Uh motion to approve 8.3. So moved. >> A second. >> Second. >> All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed say nay. >> Five of five five eyes. Motion passes. 8.3. >> Okay. Our succeeding meetings I already repeated earlier. I guess uh 10.0 the meeting is adjourned. >> 13. >> Thank you for the push. >> I do not believe that it is August already. So, did you want to add a facil facility committee meeting? >> Uh, yes. >> We do not have that committee. >> I think we have um >> we have
089transportation facility. >> So, transportation would fall into it. >> Yeah. Unless you want to