001I just like part of my right things that are supposed to be on the right side. I don't think I'm back with you, but I'm the same way. Certain way. My kids blame me because they say they all got it. Probably not his job. I just like I know. I was like, what's going on over there? She got over there. No, you need to be part of the story. I'm like, Marge, are you okay? We didn't get the memo done. All I saw was stuck in the trunk. I'm due the bathroom, madam chair, but it was for I'd like to call the meeting of the Lake Ottabon School Board to order. Let's begin with roll call. Marge here. Jade here. Sarah here. Jen here. Susan here. Let's start with the pledge of allegiance. I pledge
002allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Can I get a motion to approve the agenda? So move second. Uh any discussion? Any discussion? saying it three times. Any discussion? Uh I do have on the principal position restructure in a secondary intervention teacher. I'd like to how where did that come from and what's it about? I guess is that something we can discuss or or should it begin? If we approve the agenda, then we can go through each line item and talk about. So that was my discussion. Okay. Sorry. Sounds good. Agenda is approved. Uh, now we're going to uh no old business today, so we're going to move into new business. 3.1 FY26,
003budget discussion. Lisa and I have been working on our budget projections for next year. I'd like to explain a few things to you. Um, after several I guess revisions in here, um, I think this is our third or fourth revision and after some cuts, we came with the budget. Um well, first I'll go I'll go account for account. So general fund 01 account looking at a surplus at the end of the year of $141,744. Um food service is O2. This will be the first year and it may not turn out this way but just trying to anticipate it that food service will end in a deficit. A lot of that is due to cost of food. Now remember it's universal free meals. So we don't charge for the meal. We get reimbursed per meal from
004the state for both um breakfast and lunch. Um seconds actually are charged. So students pay for seconds but it may not work this way. Um traditionally we do have a surplus at the end of the year. Why Lisa projected that this year I think it was mostly according to her is mostly based on cost of food items food items and paper products. But we are going to a different vendor called Cisco. That's through our cooperative. Um at the end of COVID when inflation went up, all of our food service vendors dropped. So everybody dropped. So our co-op had to go searching for a different vendor. We found one that was more local. Not necessarily local, but not national. It was a state um it was a state organization. Cisco came into the co-op now. Better
005prices. So co-op dropped this one. Cisco is a national cooperate or national corporation. So there go the prices will be cheaper. So this might not it might balance out and actually will probably be a surplus but to be on the safe side be more conservative with the numbers um that's what she came up with. Then looking at um committee ed4 that's um specifically what happens every year. Um, under community ed we have ECF, we have prek, we have raider care, um, we have our summer wreck. So that all falls under community ed. Most community eds in in a deficit if you compare the um the revenue that we get from the state for community ed to what we spend in expenses. So most districts, at least all that I've ever talked to, pay a portion
006of their community uh expenses out of general. So that's why you see a deficit there. You go down to a debt service. Debt service is actually going to be a um so the way debt services that's on our bonds and our um our past debts because of construction. So we collect taxes on that. We collect 105% a year. And the reason we do 105% instead of just 100 is because sometimes those taxes come in late. So with 100% we can always make sure that there's enough to pay the expenses. Um, so as you can see, you can accumulate so much. I can't remember what percentage over you can accumulate. So last year it was taken away. So once you get to a certain amount of reserves in your 07 account, it's taken away. So we
007wound up with no carryover for that. This year we'll start building that carryover again. Um, student activities unpredictable. That comes from what they raise for fundraising so forth. Um and then so total at the end of the year um not counting the food service we're looking at um reserves of or surplus of 48,22 when we take into account down here community ed and um the food service we're looking at 2235 surplus at the end of the year. Um construction don't worry about that. that is u taken care through our bonds um which are almost we're almost done spending that so I think we probably have another I I don't know how much we have left out in expenses but we're going to end up with probablyund 130 to 150 surplus so we'll take that and
008pull it back in and probably do roof work and and so forth on that. So reserves, projected reserves that 2,235. Again, I'm going to go back to food service, I don't think it's going to wind up to be a deficit. So that should be added to the end reserves as well. So we're looking at pretty healthy. Last year we had projected a surplus of $66,877 that goes into unrestricted um and we're predicting 2235 this year. Tell you why. Um it's based on declining enrollment. Now, there's a couple things this is also based on, and I um was able to sit in a meeting with um Bry Marks, myself, and Susan were the other day. This is based on a teacher increase of 0%, staff increase of 0%. Um and then also subtracting board pay, so
009a year of no board pay. Um so, when we talk about freezes, um and this is something for the negotiation committee to discuss and work with teachers. This is has happened before in the past where there was a freeze on pay. Um it's a way of letting our enrollment catch back up. Um that's a freeze across the board for all employees. Um again something for the negotiation committee to discuss and I can meet with them and discuss that as well. TR which is teacher retirement um the contribution from the district goes up. Um it was 8.75 and now the district contribution is 9.5. Um, one teacher retired. We didn't replace that. That was fifth grade. Special edge teacher, special ed teacher exited. We're picking up those services through the co-op. So, that person want to
010employ directly with LPA, they'll be employed with a Lake Agassine. This also includes no change to um district contribution to health insurance. Now, you see this year's um which was FY20 or FY25 was based off 700 enrollment. We want to be more conservative. So next year FY26 is based on 660 has the open end in there. Um but remember there we collect uh 25% of that. So 75% goes open end. These numbers can change. Um enrollment can come in much higher. You know we won't really know we can project enrollment but we won't know anything till August. this budget will be and and I'll go through more until this will be the budget will be approved that June I'll go through more and kind of find a comment and see if I can cut in
011more corners here and there for uh savings purposes but the good thing is with the way we've come out it's still a surplus. Have we looked at any ways of uh consolidating tightening things up overall staff classes? So we we talked about this the other day too. So I I think the best time to look at FT and staff size. So couple things take into account our PAR educators. The majority of them fall under special ed. So that falls under co-op. We get reimbursement for that. So that doesn't come out of here. We're looking at basically support staff and teacher FTE councils and administration. Um that is best looked at next spring because we kind of pass to get to the deadline to make those changes. Um so our deadline is July 1st. Yeah. Well,
012don't we have staffing that we're trying to fill right now? Different different positions. A vacated position. I think we have one position left to fill and that's middle schooling wish. I mean, have we looked at maybe we have to fill that position or is there any way to fill with him? Not really. There's um because we have two English teachers at the high school level, one English teacher at the middle school level. We've looked at that, but they're looking at their schedule and the amount of classes they teach, then bringing something eighth grade English, too, which would probably be a couple sections a piece. On top of that, um we did we do look at attrition. So, when we had a teacher retire, we were able to not fill that position and get creative and
013move people around. Um, we did that a couple times last year, too. We didn't Well, we keep be losing enrollment. I mean, we have to be fluid. We have to be able to flex with that in boss. I mean, that's that's very I mean, and it's late when we start talking spring. I mean, we got to be more fluid more quickly. Well, it's because it'll roll over next July 1. But being that July 1st is always here, almost here right now, we we're out of time there. But we can look at talking. So realistically, we should start seeing our forecast last fall and then come winter trend line of our loss enrollment forecast. Well, both. I mean, we should have been thinking about this probably this past winter is, okay, our enrollment is going the
014wrong way. So, we can start to set expectations. God willing, we don't need to, but had we, we could adjust, been in position to adjust. Well, I think over the c I think we have the budget presented a couple over a couple meetings there. And so, I think we're seeing a happy decline right now. Just have to do our best to fix it. Now, that enrollment projection is just a projection. Again, this we want to be conservative. We're above that now. our enrollment um we're ending with 680 something but we want to be conservative. We could easily come back in at 680 something and I when we're configuring this and we go through region one so region one will load all this information the EDMs projected EDMs into the computer we get that factors in
015what we get for foundation aid and weighted factors and all that and gives us what our expected revenue is but it can most certainly go back to what it is this year. We just wanted to be conservative. So in the the community at department is that all broken out per like summer wreck is a separate line budget so we can see the loss it is and I'll have I'll have Lisa so this is just the the overview of it I'll have Lisa have that available for our budget approval meeting so that you can kind of see and we're at I would say when we look at ECF or we look at prek we're kind of at the bare bones there's three sections so we have three teachers the um we have so many parents per
016um so you have kind of student to pair ratio so we're kind of the bare minimum for them and then they also have an um administrative assistant um summer wreck they're not overstaffed at all ECF isn't no they're probably just had maybe understaffed and they lost but a good news on the ECF is on my last meeting there they had I believe it was the four-year-old has some very high amount of people showing up for their screenings. So, we have possibility of a good kindergarten class in a year. Yeah. Which would be really great. I'd like to look at summer wreck because I think it's something we really need to look at because we're under staff as you said and it's it's a struggle and I've heard it on the street again. Well, so do
017we need to look at that? What are we at? What are we losing in summer wreck and is that in the best interest for students? Summer wreck is the tough one. Um we definitely don't bring we don't bring an exorbitant amount of revenue. Basically the revenue we bring in pays for the coaches. Um we so it's either it's either a wash or even a little bit of a deficit. Um but that's part of community ed like our community ed program. So we can see the revenue that it generates in the budget. Okay. and our cost there. Let me see what you revenue to expenses on there. There's a lot of it at our next meeting. We we brought this up a couple Oh, I'm sorry. We brought this up couple months ago about the summer
018rep and I had given you some information about myself uh being in it and uh they've already cut back salaries from uh a year ago. Uh and they switched they only meet um like Tuesday, Thursday. They used to meet Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday for softball, baseball, you know, other things. Now, this year they went Tuesday, Thursday for softball. And what time of day? They they have practice and they have a game. What time of day? Uh in the morning, like probably 10. So, it's I mean their normal time. Yeah. It's a And and then and then just like even golf. Like even golf. I have 30 kids. So, you got parents that would like their kids on it, but they can't be there. They work. But that's that's always going to be a struggle. But
019but yeah, I mean I think there's alternative ways to deal with summer wreck and make it so there's more kids that can participate and it'll be later in the day and it could be less expense to the district. We'll let her finish. Yeah. And so I have golf and I have 32 kids involved in that from beginners and then intermediates. So I go from 8 to 10 and 10 to 12, right? um that basically kind of pays itself because I have so many participating whereas you have in softball or baseball they lack kind of numbers right uh just for your information that some of it works some of it doesn't but it's also something for the kids to do in the summertime we had tal Jane I know you had mentioned at one time about
020the busing issue so if you got for summer school. Can we pick up kids in the surrounding area for summer wreck? And we've actually talked about that in the past. If you offer transportation though for summer wreck, like if you offer transportation for the kids playing baseball, you have to offer it to everybody that's in summer. But we're already providing transportation for certain activities. That's going to cost our district what 16 grand over a fourth period, right? For some for summer school. Yeah. But I mean, so the bus is already routed and it's already traveling at whether we pick up three kids or we pick up 60 kids. That route is being ran. But what he's saying is you have to have equal. So when you're looking at everything, if you're doing this one for
021Absolutely. But we're doing it for summer school probably 10 rounds because we'll be picking up. I mean, not looking for answers, but I'm looking at that. I feel like we got a lot of departments that are focused on their own department and not worry about everything else. we need to collaborate. We need to sit down and find out what the big picture is. Um but I mean I I don't know the golf sounds. I think that should that's something that probably needs to be clarified that statement J and I think that we would I think we discussed it maybe next year looking at not running the buses for the program to conserve cost. That's something I suggested a long time ago. Um but it since it's it was something that is a precedent the decided
022to continue. So, we met as a transportation committee. Yeah. And um one of our teachers attended and it was Matt and I. We had talked about. It's a concern for the district. It's a very stressful situation for Matt being responsible for that budget. At that meeting, our teacher thought it would be maybe a fair to, you know, we'll do the first two weeks and then through that communicate because there's it's it's a month between, so it's it's a period of time, but then that second maybe we that way the district doesn't have to take the entire hit. So, I don't know where that's gone from here or if that's been overruled, but I think uh our teacher thought that was a fair way and and this we can give fair shake to the student parents
023that hey, we got this two weeks, but the next two weeks it's not in the budget and actually the first two weeks ain't in the budget either, but I mean, is that something we as a board need to figure out how we want to handle? Let me go ahead and say that that was something we'd look at next year and this year was already set in stone. I think that's what we said. I do believe though I know I don't know where that came because the committee met and then I don't know where it went from there. So which committee are you talking about? The transportation. Okay. I do not I don't remember hearing about the doing the first two weeks and hearing about it would have been on Matt Matt. Okay. Um Matt and
024the teacher and I the only three that showed up. Yeah. Um, I think when we talked about it last time, we said that it would be in best practice just because the parents signed up for it to go with it this year and then we look at it next year. Seriously, as long as we communicate to Matt on that, y I've talked with him about it and that's split up between two different budget years, but we've also worked to take that out general fund rather than transportation budget. But also on this it on the issue of community ed and the kids whatever their kids are doing and the kids need those summer programs. So even if we have Miss Bee's uh attendance in golf and it's spectacular, we also need the four kids that want
025to play tea ball or something because it's their interest and if they don't thrive, you know what I mean? We're not giving them the tools for the success. So even if it's the three-year-old classroom, four-year-old classroom, we have to eat whatever we can look at it and I'd love to finetune look at it, but we have to always do what's best for our kids. And the and it I think I heard one time it was like an investment every time we get those three-year-olds, four-year-olds even or the parents coming in with little kids for story hour if we can just give them our doors and say, "Hey, let's here we are." And I understand your 10:00, you know, meeting time, but that's also comes down to c coaches. Like usually the softball girls are being
026coached by like the older softball girls and so those girls also have other activities later. So that's I mean they're pretty much volunteering their entire time. They are and that has come to be a concern too. I think that's something we could look at in the future, but we'd have to have coaches that would actually want to commit to that time later because for a lot of coaches it works and out of my five year my five kids. I just couldn't make it to them. Yeah. And let's but I will say in the community is great because they were like to bleed kids get in the car. Come have your village. And I think for the most part that summer wreck I think parents are willing to step up to the plate and and and
027participate in coach and drive each other's kids. Yeah. Because that has been a concern. But we could ask about it for next year about having if people would be interested in doing later hours or something like that. But I know for a lot of people we've done it. I think it's almost always been earlier. It has coach. Do they have to take the coaching thing for summer? Not for summer. it. I think we should be making sure we have individuals that are competent for that. Well, they do. Um, what's the screen looking for? Background checks. They have they aren't. So, some rec programs aren't sanctioned sports. So, we don't have to back on. Oh, we do background. Yeah. I think that's on everybody, right? So, you got that and then like you said, you don't
028have to take it, but you know, if you have parents, that'd be great. I haven't seen most parents being able to step up to that to take on that task. Be surprised. Madam Chair, what happens uh and what happened a few years ago, they had such young kids that were coaching which, you know, they came forth and they, you know, they had some problems with the discipline and so subsequently, yeah, you do want parents, but you know, that's that's a hard that's a hard fix. You know, I I did softball for many years before I did golf because I didn't work in the summer. I was, you know, so it worked for me for a parent, but you know, and again, I'm not going to badmouth the kids, but it they just uh they were
029not adults that should have handled kids. They don't have the the experience to still kids best interest. Yeah, they're still kids. Yeah, they're doing the best they know. We need a tool. Give them the ammunition so we can help them be successful. Yep. But as a board, we can always work to make any of our programs the best they can be. Absolutely. Dr. Graph, I have a couple questions. Uh my first one is, and this is just for my knowledge, why is the food service not involved in the total? I'm sorry, maybe I misunderstood that. It Okay. Okay. The revenue from debt service goes to pay off debt. That's an answer. Okay. I I was like I must have misunderstood that your food service is definitely perfect. And then the revenue because obviously it's increased
030in every pretty much every category. Is that due to the 2425 bianium? That's an automatic increase. There's no automatic increase. So, so our our rates don't increase from the bianium. So, where where does that revenue increase come from I guess is what my question is. Um, we do get a projection of what we get. So, this is based on projections, but a conservative projection. So, every year we might project a 1% increase, which is what I believe Lisa plugged in. We know that we're going to get 2.78 for inflationary offset that was approved two legislative sessions ago, but that is only going to go through fiscal year 27. So then it's going to be taken away again. Um that's the only So the legislature had ended their special session yesterday. My understanding is they approved
031the budget. I have not gotten any feedback yet with the approved for education increase. I guess not very much. Um, so these are based off about a 1% increase. Okay. Thank you. We always have to put a number in for the projection. We always put a very low number in. Oh, actually has it been over the years. So two years ago, prior to two years ago, they had come up with a um the legislature approved like I think it was about six or sevenyear um education fund increase and they outlined it. I think it was six years. So like one year was 2.5, the next year is 2.6, next year is 2.2. So we've always had that 2%age. The last round they gave us a 4% and a 2% which is we've never gotten that
032before. This year and again we've always plugged in one every time we've done budget projection. We've always plugged in the 1% to be conservative just in case something changed. Um this year I don't know what foundation a increase is. We I know that a lot of the organizations asked for 5%. Um I heard it's going to be about a 2% I've heard even 1 point some percent. So for a long time we had that about six year span where the approved six years straight of increases and we we knew exactly what they would be and then we came up with the four and the two and then now I don't know this yet. Do you know when they antic anticipate hearing? I should hear something this week. Soon as I get something from one of
033our organizations, I'll break it down so it's more understandable. Um, I'll just send that out. Sounds good. Thank you. Give an update of any changes that a board meeting too. Okay. Any other discussion? We don't have to vote on this, so I don't have to say. No, you don't have to. Okay. Okay. Moving on over to 3.2 middle school principal position restructure. So, Amanda Snder kind of brought this to the board's attention last um last meeting when she presented data. Starting next year, we have to provide MTSS, which is multi-tered system of support, other intervention support through 12th grade. So, right now, we provide it through 8th grade. Um, and that kind of where spreads are very thin. Um, now we have to go through 12th grade beginning next year. So, I was trying to
034formulate an idea rather than trying to hire somebody looking under budget constraints. So that's where I came up with and this is just this is a discussion matter of revising the middle school principal position. Elementary will be understand ECF prek has their own coordinator that's ambracef um elementary will be K through six again middle school will be 7 through 8th and supervised be the MTSS coordinator for secondary that means the data collection that Amanda does supporting instructional coaching in the classroom working with lake uh Lake Agassy on uh teacher assistance team meetings and things like that and supervising the reader academy, which is our ingenuity guys, not the open end. That was my thoughts on how to kind of reinvent that role rather than hiring another MTSS coach. MTSS coach would be a full-time teacher.
035So, this is a a costfree way of doing it rather than adding that FTE. We're going to need somebody secondary. So, I have a question for you. How much time would Lorie spend being the MT MTSS coordinate? I would I would have to I can't predict that honestly. I would say probably because Amanda was pretty swamped. Yeah, Amanda's pretty swamp. Elementary elementary is much more difficult of course because we have um we have developing skills and we you know catch him early. We have six wind teachers she supervises at the same time. Um there would only be one win teacher in secondary supervised. So I would say 30% of her time would be MTSS. Yeah, just a guesstimate. Very much a very guesstimate. You said that she wouldn't be doing the open ed. No, she
036wouldn't. Open Ed doesn't need that super. So she'd be doing Raider Academy. Raider Academy instead of the open ed. So who are we going to put on open ed? Really? Open ed. I've talked to they don't need anybody. The only thing they need is help with enrollment. Okay. So I talked with Tony Summers about doing that. That's going to be twice a year. She said that would be no problem because she's in the office. Sure. That's very nice of her. And is Miss Zick like aware of this issue? I talked down I sat down and talked with her through it first just to make sure she was comfortable with that. She's grieving. Well, she's good especially with the secondary NTSS coordinator part because that's her background. I was supposed to say I think that's her
037background. I when Amanda was talking about it, I didn't get the impression she was like I need help. Oh, I did. She said she needed help. She said she said I need help. She said she said it'd be overwhelming, I believe is the word she said. And it's kind of overwhelming now kindergarten through six. Madam chair, just to verify that came up during meet and conference which you worked on and what you missed, but that was a concern on meet and confer. Well, she presented it at a board meeting was talking about it and said, "Oh, right. Right, right." But this also Okay. came through at a cancer meeting and conference spot. hold. That's something to consider for this year because we need to fill those spots and then we can always see how they
038do and looking at making any adjustments next spring as well. Y and again this is a way to change that role rather than add another budget deficit concern. Yep. We don't have a budget deficit concern or a concern. We're gonna doing this way where we already have a teacher and just revamping the the responsibility. We have a law under contract. We would that we would it it saves the money of trying to hire a whole another person, right? So we take exactly what we have right now and put all the people would be great and plug them into different places. Um my question is was she feel comfortable doing all these roles? She said she is. We sat down. We had a couple lengthy discussions about it. Wanted her to feel comfortable first. She says
039she does. Okay. Is that something we can sit down? Is it with Amanda? We already have J. I have and she said the she when she presented data then she brought up the fact it's expanding to through 12th grade next year and that she needs support and we need extra personnel to do that. So rather than hiring, we just restructured this position so that we would have to spend more money and go into a deficit. Rather than that, just be creative with what we have. So here's my other piece of this is the middle school principles added because of uh concerns with our discipline. We added a middle school principal for that discipline. Now, we're gonna take and add distractions to her potentially and lose what I'm hearing that we gained traction by having three
040principles and a decline in enrollment. Yeah. Not at all. So, what we'll be doing is taking sixth grade off her plate. So, she spent half her time over here and half her time at the So, now she's no longer a middle school principal. She doesn't deal with sixth grade, but she's a middle school principal per out contract would be six, seven, eight, right? So the restructure would take the sixth grade away though as from my my understanding. Correct. Is that acceptable to the contract? It's acceptable to the contracted person. So we would just rewrite her contract. We could always confer with Chris. Yep. And just do anou to restructure it. I have a question then. Does she currently already have Raider Academy? She does not. She does not. So we're taking away sixth grade but
041adding Raider Academy and MTSS. So Raider Academy for her, the supervision for Raider Academy is just looking at their progress. So she'll she goes in the system, looks at their progress, communicates with parents. It's not grading. It's not supervising students or anything like that. Okay. Monitoring progress and communicating with parents. That's pretty. So she's monitoring progress in communicating with parents. Yes. So then who absorbs the real responsibility for the sixth graders? Elementary. The elementary principal goes back to where normal was before should believe me. The third I I understand where you're going from, but the third is definitely needed. There is a lot with that seventh and eighth grade and that transition between sixth grade and seventh grade is so I don't even know how to say the word astronomical. Um, just jumping and not
042every kid can do it very well. Um, and we've noticed specifically from COVID like the next generations coming in into that school, the behaviors are just crazy. And and beyond that, before when we had the junior high model, that's going from elementary to high school. Basically, junior high is high school. Um, and there's no transition from seventh seventh and eighth grade middle school or however you commit your middle school is a way to transition into that high school model slower while we're still meeting their developmental needs. And if you look at standards, when we take a kid from sixth grade to 7th grade, seventh and eighth grade standards are 100% different than 9th through 12th. Seventh and eighth grade is focusing on developmental academics whereas 9th through 12th grade is all content area. So there's
043just a lot involved that transition and this is why a lot of schools have gone to middle schools is because that transition from elementary to junior high. We're just saying I'm holding your hand today, tomorrow you're on your own. Well, I believe it took some of the ease off the kids, too, cuz I know when my kids that I used to take care of when they were younger would get in there, they would be all nervous. So at at different times, the hallway let outs and continuity of teachers and stuff. It manageable doesn't take them very long to get used to it. They do pretty good. Yes. Yeah. Currently the middle school wing has their own bell schedule. Um they have team time during team time daily. They talk about students. This is happening in
044my class with a student. How's it going for you? What are you doing that I can do differently? And just trying to build the students up to make them more independent. You said that was daily. Daily. Yeah. And through this, we've actually been able to expose him to more electives at the middle school level. I will say personally, it's helped mine going in. We all know how well he is, so he's good kid. Some days good. Just just needs a line. Then he's moving in with you. Well, we won't go that far, but he's always good for me. He's not trying to tackle the line for a bit. We just can't be naive. the fact that there's decline enrollment and high administration. Well, and I will agree with this. If if we see a trend
045in enrollments continuing to decline, we see that next year, then I would definitely say you need to take a look at that. If we drop even to 600, then I I would say that's definitely time to take a look at that structure altogether. You're still going to need an MJS coordinator for secondary, though. Either way, you're still we still need this position right now, but yes, we're gonna have to keep a very very close eye on enrollment and we're Yeah. And currently she is still under contract. She's so the physician's going to stay here for this next. So, it's fantastic. She wants to take on extra roles, right? And she is very passionate about the kids. She really is. And she's good at her job. I'm sorry there. I don't know, Madam Chair. I don't
046know if I should bring this up at this time, but I received something. It must have been posted from Holly School. Oh, I took care of that. I know what we're talking about. We should talk about that a different time, but Okay, that's Yeah, I I would rather not talk about that. Okay. I did make that show that to somebody in that district. So, you can talk to that'd be great. Super confused. I don't have any idea the ones kicking in or the tired one too. Does anybody have any other questions on that? Now, this would be something we'd be looking at at the next board meeting like Friday. I know the end of the month. I think it's the 23rd. 23rd. Okay. Y we do have a new elementary principal that's going to be
047joining us and I think ought to just do respect confer with him that he I really do feel that makes the most sense. I'll be communicating with him. He's coming in next week. So yeah, that's great. Would you like to confer with him if he's comfortable? Absolutely. And that's one thing that I've I've talked about this the new principal have input on this. Yep. He's going from a school of a lot to a school of about half. So I guess it's not going to be outside his comfort zone at all. Yep. And it's best to include all your administration and staff. So we don't have approval for the from the new elementary like his his or her contract does not say K through six. It says K through five right now. Right now it says
048Okay. Yeah. Actually his contract pieces that need to be taken care of. His contract's different like discussion night. Yeah. Yep. Work session. everything will be taken care of by the time we get to our board meeting. And if he says adamantly, no, then we'll have to think of something different. And if he does share with us how he feels. Yes. I I mean, I would like to know how wasn't he? Six. Wasn't he through six before we even had six? I mean, I would like for him to come in and speak to all of us. I I think at this point, I think that's makes sense. So, his contract doesn't actually start till after July 1st. So, we can't vote it in before because we can't have him speak before July 1st. But, do we
049need the MTSS coordinator, right? I was going to have that on the agenda for June. I'll confirm with him. What his thoughts are on? I mean, I I I think that's what my concern was is that if we can't vote on something in June if we don't have approval from someone that doesn't start until July, he and I have been in contact here and I'll I'll talk with him about it. If he's opposed to it, then we'll figure something else out. But I'll let you know what his concern. Again, he's gone from a school of probably 600 students to half of that. A lot less. Yeah. And what grades did he was he elementary principal before? Correct. Did he do six? PreK through five because they had middle school. They had he doesn't have to.
050Yeah. So, can I suggest can our chair be a part of that conversation? Could you be involved in that as well? Absolutely. because I think because there's a transition happening y and I don't want us to be unaware of that conversation. I think it's very important for I would love to join you Dr. I will set up I can absolutely do that. So the off chance that he says no was Mr. willing to keep sixth grade, right? We'll have to figure something else out. But the supervising Raider Academy would take as much of our time since it's not as much. It would not. So who's supervising Raider Academy right now? Who is that being taken away from and given to? It's being taken away from Mr. Meyer. Okay. Why would we take it for it's
051takes a lot of his time compared to everything else he's doing because he's also overseas academics I mean not academics activities athletics so the way when we created this we created as kind of a organizational chart so he's overlooking athletics and activities he's in charge of all activities then what's our ad doing all right he supervises our ad so he's ultimately responsible for all of Just like your superintendent is responsible for the principles but the principles have duties underneath that but in the end superendent still responsible for it. Does anybody have any more discussion there? I think there is more, but I just don't know. Some processing that needs to happen. Well, think about it. We can always Okay. Worst case schedule another meeting and talk about it again or include it on another meeting.
052Sure. Thank you. And I'll even text Ryan tonight. Something for next week. Okay. Okay. Uh, any other discussion? Any other discussion? It was cute when Paul did it, too. Okay, moving on to 3.3, secondary interventions intervention teacher. So, this is um this is something to think about for again on next spring's um pallet for the school board. So, we currently have a middle school win teacher. That wind teacher is paid on the win schedule, the pay schedule. Um and that's a combination of title one funding and access funding. Access is special ed funding, title funding. So, those come out of a different budget. Um, but we've been talking about expanding that into instead of a a win teacher because their pay is quite a bit lower, creating it as a teacher position, an interventionist position
053because they're going to have to work with some through 12th grade now. So, it'll be more responsibility as the wind teacher position. We have a hard time keeping um win teachers. We lose them frequently. We lose them frequently because they get paid less than a teacher, but but they're licensed teachers. We have six win teachers at the elementary school. We have one at the middle school. That middle school win teacher will be expanding to 12th grade. So they'll be teaching intervention class because we have to teach the intervention classes. So to attract and retain a quality teacher that will stay consistent with the program and build that program, they're looking at extending it or changing to a teacher position um so the pay matches the duties they'll be doing. We can keep somebody there consistently.
054again, not factoring in this budget. Um, and it will be a title one teacher, so it'll be covered partially through title one funds. I don't know what that looks like right now. This is a discussion for next spring. I think the school board really needs to um look at this and I'll make sure that it's uh that uh our middle school teacher and secondary teacher bring that discussion up at that time. But I really think it would be beneficial um to provide those interventions. My question first would be what are other districts doing there? Is it a full is it a full it is a full teacher position because this is exactly what I actually going for that's no longer in the um doing is I'm just title one. So yeah like this and that's
055so it's become a full teaching position now the part-time teacher I think is in that category of the special ed program. So when teacher So the way when when teacher pay is factored in 50% is teacher pay 50% is parap pay. Okay. Parap pay falls under title one. Teacher pay falls on under access. You can't have a teacher under title one. You know um a lot of districts have title one teachers. A lot of districts don't know what they're going to do yet. Um because right now we're very far ahead of the curve with this redact stuff. We've had teachers that have been trained in what they're supposed to be trained long before there was a redact. who are already using the interventions. Um, so this is I feel a way of bringing somebody in
056that's going to stay in that position. That's exactly why they changed it to what they changed it to. When you say covers 50%, are you talking 50% no matter what the top salary is? So if you're at 50 or 50% of 50, if you're at 80 at 50% of 80 or when you say 50% coverage by so the wind payment, it's it's in the teacher contract. the win pay scales 50% of their pay say they're on a pay scale at $56,000. Okay. Okay. 0.5 of that comes from 56. So it is okay. The other.5 comes from the parent side of it. So that's why it was so tough in the past to figure out okay where exactly is their pay and it was gotten wrong sometimes. So we created a pay scale looking at um
057the 50% of the teach and it's the same it's steps and lanes just like the teachers pay scale. So in that if you look at the the win teacher pay scale and you look at the dollar amount 50% of that dollar amount is what they would be getting on the teacher pay scale the other 50% is what they would get at the pair pay scale. So that's why they're paid lower than even though they are a teacher. Even though they are a teacher that makes sense because of that pair of pace, but it makes sense. The difference between them and the classroom teacher, the classroom teacher might have 15 to 25 students. They work with two or three students, four students at a time. Yeah. And as of right now, that would affect seven teachers.
058No, just one. Just one. Just the one. Just secondary. Okay. I probably would keep it in the back of your head that if you move the secondary into that position, you're probably going to have the other ones coming after you after that. Maybe it's a different they'll have the secondary will have more responsibility. True. You know, so that's the one difference because now we're talking about content area reading. Yeah. Instead reading. So it'll be different. It'll be a lot more rigorous work. finding that out. But it is true. Anytime you go in, if it's a somewhat the same title. Yeah. Yeah. That's why we call it interventionist. So, our middle school teacher will be is going to be on the win schedule next year. Perfect. Again, this is something to look forward for fiscal year
05927. That way, it's plenty of time to think about it, plenty of time to see how we're going to implement interventions through 12th grade. And then that'll give a better idea making that decision next spring. And you said you'll have staff remind us to bring it back up again next spring. Perfect. Thank you. So this win positions to help students that are just in need of additional support. Yes. Yes. Is there any reason why we could engage some of our students that are doing very well to help? They have a mentor program from the I believe it's juniors and seniors mentoring the name. Yes. But there's also a lot more to it than that. So there's data collection, they do testing and when teachers do the testing, they do the data collection. A lot of
060that's furpa. It's Well, I get that. I'm just saying this. I mean, I feel like we have students that are at some point getting more and if there's any interest, I mean, we're talking about implementing programs to, you know, whether it's welding or shop and we're in an educational setting and if there's any students that have I might think I might want to be a teacher, could we not try to engage them on the back end and take some of that hands-on that we're you know, we're going to be inundated with that additional, but I think there's some of our students. We do that through work based learning. So, we have students that do call them teacher assistants, but they do do that through work based learning. So, we've had um a lots of our
061high school kids and work baseline come over here and they work with students um I would say being that I have so many children. So, the my fourth one she did the mentoring program and I believe she was mentoring. Yes. Seventh and eighth grade. And then I've heard of the workbased learning point, but I've also had another kid that was in the classroom. She'd get done with her homework right away, and she would always help every kid, but sometimes they don't want to do it the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. So, we want to make sure that they have a turn to be like, "Okay, you are you're done early. You read that extra textbook I brought past you read for class." So, you don't want to just have it fall there. And another thing about
062when teachers, they're licensed teachers, right? When you see students aren't licensed, being responsible. Well, I'm not saying take a whole foot. giving them that additional just I mean engage them. Oh, yeah. That's I think that's what that mentorship is. Madam Chair, they have I I know a bunch of them that have been over here in the past like six years and um they love it because and now some of those are going into education. Yes. Yes. And some of them are moving back into the district and working for the school. Cool. We do have a couple coming back from um Bailey's class that have come back for the summer and they're doing stuff at like the boys and girls. They're teaching up there and they they've done like their first year of teaching or whatever
063and there's a couple of them that said they're coming right back to this district where they want to come teach. Any other discussion? Last try. Okay. Any discussion? Okay. And we are moving on to our succeeding meetings. Uh we have our 4.1 regular monthly schoolboard meeting June 23rd, 2025, 5:30 Lake Park High School Media Center. I'm sure I would also mention your Friday special meeting. And we have a special meeting Friday um 1:00 at the high school media center. High school. High school or the elementary? High school. I'm sorry. Okay. for superendent interviews. For superintendent interviews, you have to First interviews at 1. First interview is at 1. Okay. So 12:45. All right. Yep. Cuz I was like, yeah, elementary helps me out a little bit, but no, it's fine. It's I can always leave
064early. It's just it's not a good deal. We usually in past house hosted interviews there. Yeah, no problem. Sounds good. Well, with that, I will close the meeting. me is jerk. That is fun.