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School Board Special Meeting

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YouTube / Lake Park Audubon Schools
Date
2025-06-07
Location
Becker County, MN
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6,823 words · about 38 min
Collected
2026-07-02

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001when you're like when you go back and listen to it. I don't know. Which is crazy because the thing can you hear in the Yeah. So, are the voices muffled or what is it? It's not muffled. It's just it just sounds like really really far away and so I uh turn the closed caption on. Is it? All right. We'll call this meeting to order. It's a special meeting of the board of education. Friday, June 6, 2025. Uh, roll call. Here J here. Jen here. Susan here. And I am here. All right. Stand for the pledge, please. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. On 1.4, we have an approval of

002the agenda, but we have a change. So, if you want to go down to 3.3, can I make a motion to Yes. to approve it? to make a change on the agenda. Yes, I second. So 3.3 we will be adding only one and the reason for that is we need a little bit more time after Paul resigned to put it on. So we will only do one tonight. Uh all right. So, we'll go up to 3.1. Appoint a board chair. I'd like to motion like a motion to appoint a new board chair. We have to switch. I think switch 3.2 and 3.1 first motion. We have to take his resignation first. Oh, that's right. Okay, that's fine. So, I motion to to change 3.1 to and 3.2 two around. I second. All right. All in

003favor? I opposed. All right. So, accept a board chair officer and a membership resignation. That would be Paul Danda. So, a motion to accept the resignation. Okay. Second. All right. All in favor? I I opposed. All right. Now, we'll go to 3.1. Appoint the board chair. I'd like a motion to appoint a new board chair. A motion to appoint a new board chair. I'll second. All right. Any discussion? Okay. I'd like a motion to appoint a new chair. Uh by appointing myself as the board chair. Uh do you have any other people in mind? I motion to um Susan to be a board option chair option also. Okay. Anyone else? All right, then we'll in discussion. Do you want I mean I guess I have a question for do you want to be the board

004chair? Is that an option for you? Uh uh I will as long as I'm on the board I will just I am fine with anybody being board chair. I will support anybody and I will just do anything that's best for our school. I nominated Susan because this past 30 to 45 days she has shown clear leadership and has gone well above anybody on this table at the moment. Um has direct communication with the SBA at this moment. Um and uh actually so do I so been very clear and concise. I haven't experienced it, but I have with what questions have come to the meetings. Um, I know there's been some difficult decisions that have been being made and supporting those difficult decisions are ultimately are going to help our students and our children as we

005proceed forward. So, that that would be my three cents. And this past and I guess to clarify also this past transition from Susan being responsible for getting the superintendent's information and such and then somehow it got pulled away from her and then got reverted which I don't believe that should have happened. That's concern that's concerning to me. So with that being a situation too, I I think at that point since you raised your hand to kind of accept that board chair position, that's why I would continue to support Susan in that role. So we have two people on the floor here. So we do last time we do how do we vote this? No, we did the time before we did the but we have to do roll call, don't we? Okay. So, this as

006as a chair, I mean, we have to hold accountability to whomever is our superintendent or whoever is going to be our superintendent. So it doesn't get to the point where there's being there there there's been a loss of translation from issues that continue to happen at a very base level and then the phone has erupted at a board level and there's no reason for that. There's no reason why we as a board should be chasing these issues or being hearing these issues when they're being handled appropriately at a certain level. So we're having discussion right now, right? Yes. So with that board chair is going to have to be very thick skinned and accepting and be willing to have that uncomfortable conversation, whomever it might be. And right now we don't have a superintendent. So

007we have to lean on our administration moving forward, which would be our high school principal, middle school principal, elementary principal soon to start. also our transportation managers. We have to help support them and hold everybody accountable for their intro. I mean, so very concerned that we have to look them in the eye and have those difficult conversations, agree to disagree. Is that fair to say? So, this next board position has to be able to do that because I don't feel like this table is going to change our our our uh what would you say? um direction of what we're trying to create for our children. Our children have been frustrated. That's why we're losing certain families because they're not being heard and it isn't going any further. So, we have to open that. And I

008Jane, I have been on the board for seven years. Sure. I was voted on twice. Sure. I had a lot of support. Sure. And I have dealt with a lot of people. Mhm. And I have I think made the grade. So I'm a little bit that you were saying that I could not handle this. Uh really my experience this past 30 45 days on how we interacted after the decisions were made were not acceptable. So um to blow off a current board member and not even it it's just not acceptable behavior. So, I'm just saying as we proceed forward, it isn't going to get any easier and our expectations need to be more firm and as strong and our new AD or our intim interim superintendent. Oh, and our new superintendent that witt it, you

009know, I would like to see us as a board open the b the door up also as if there's an issue, we are going to sit and listen to our community and our members and our staff. We're not going to limit them. I I think that is something that our community has asked for for years and I think it's something that we only deserve to give them if it fits within MSBA rules. And I'm just throwing it out there because right now there's a lot of families that are have done the process of chain of command but it didn't get anywhere. And with that being said, we as a what you talk what are you talking about chain of command? There's a lot of families, Mrs. Chair, there's a lot of families that would reach

010out and that's what I was trying to express. Uh, uh, there's a lot of families that follow the chain of command and you'd say, "Okay, first go to your teacher or then if you have an issue there, go to the principal." If it doesn't goes past the principal, go to the superintendent. When it went to the superintendent, their issues were fluffed by. I mean, actually, Val, like So, what does that have to do with me? I don't I don't think it has it. I'm just saying this position as our chair moving forward. Correct. We as a board have to be we we need to accept the responsibility to hear our community and hear our staff. And you don't think I can do that? Uh I would say I'm not going to say you can't do

011that, but our experience in the past year of board that hasn't been done. the past years as when I was on the board, the board itself, the entirety, the issues would surface and they would be shut off and nothing would be done with it from there. Uh example, well, Mrs. Chair, I did hear you say that you don't listen to the community at board meeting. Don't listen to the community. You don't talk to them. So, you don't even want to listen to the community. So, I will say that I don't talk to the community. it was something you had said and I didn't feel that I think you were referring to something completely different and I only had heard half of the conversation when we were over at the high school a couple board meeting

012the last board meeting I always listen to the community I've been here for you how many years you have been here for many I know that lots of people love you and you've been in this committee for many years this is Wow Wow. There there's been a lot of opportunity over the years to really I mean I can step back to December. I can step back two years ago. I can step back to some of my children trying to communicate to staff and being blown off and it and we went through the chain of command for a year and a half. I personally experienced it. I know families that are personal I I don't need to get into cattails. It's it's just very well known that when there's surface issues that have surfaced, they do

013not get resolved. They get brushed under the rug and then we are told that we have to have trust with our those that we work with, which I fullheartedly believe in. We have to trust everybody that we work with from our staff all the way down to our faculty right down to our right down to the last person that's doing whatever it might be grounds. when when we continue to experience cons consistent issues from different families and when you communicate to different staff members that had left and they're unwilling there's more to the story that we are being told and I mean I could start dumping names and I'm not going to go there because most of us already know some of the people that have left and why they have left and I know

014some people that are going to be leaving because there are people on their case for certain things and it starts right here and and the beauty of some people that our board is going to lose a job. Our board is just going to kind of rain in a little bit here. I think we're I'd like to I think we're getting off subject and I think that we just need to I think we just need a motion to appoint a new chair. I'd like to M Mr. Chair, I'd like to um I'd like to note Miss B has a credit been a credit to the school board for a long time. I've worked with her the last over two years. Uh you've done a lot of really good work and I don't think they're trying to

015talk about that at all. I think it just became a discussion. We as a board we very much appreciate absolutely everybody's voice, everybody's opinions and everybody's voice brings different perspective to what we're talking about. Um I think Jay it's just I can't speak for you. I think you're just trying to say where we where we see where we want the school to go and to just be strong and fantastic and all for the children. Absolutely. But basically, you're saying I can't lead. I I am saying is we need an individual and we need as a board to be very strong and be very determined to stick to our goals and that is to support our students and I don't support the students. Not saying that for from it. You are. No, Jade. I'm surprised as

016I like you don't know anyone who has supported our kids more than me for 45 I I wouldn't disagree with that I would not disagree you as a teacher is what we have to aim for as all levels and expectations and experience this isn't going to be no we haven't gone there we haven't done that yet this is actually an example of what I'm concerned about yes this making it personal yeah this is where the thick skin has to come in and us having to to agree to disagree. Um Jay, I'm not making a person. No, you were making it personal. Okay. So anyways, I think uh I would be um I think the next step would be I'll because I am. Okay. We need to vote. So um present your vote, please. Do we

017have we have a motion? We need to make a motion. We need to make a motion to motion. what we were going to say. So, I'll make the motion that we vote for the next chair. Yes. Second. I second it. Okay. And then you do call. Sure. Um Sarah and I vote for Susan. Jade. I vote for Susan. Jenny, I vote for Susan. Susan, I vote for you. speak just to pay homage to you. You've been on the school board a long time. You can vote for yourself. Remember he said that before. Mhm. I'll vote for myself. Okay. Sus is a new chair. I'm sorry. Miss B, you want her to sign this? Yep. Here you go. There you go. Okay. Okay. Moving on to 3.3. Appoint new board members. One position we have open.

018Um I vote new position, a new member in that position and I would like to state due to a conflict day of the ent interest ent interest I have recused myself from the process procedures and voting so I will not be voting oh yeah second would like to second I'll second okay do I say it again due to a conflict of interest I've accused myself in the process procedures and voting surrounding this candidacy um if you guys all want to vote and then we'll give it to Susan Um Susie, right? Yes, I think so. And then Marv, I'll say this as your benefit uh in place is that we do have another seat open and we couldn't announce it fast enough. So, we will be announcing that and then if we move fast enough and

019I'm hoping if we announce it Monday, we could have it next Monday. have the have the that work time fusy that if you have time if we could post it again and get candidates and then we could if we get any candidates we'd love to interview them and not reinter because our lawyer said that if we move at the same and then we could immediately go and vote for the second one in the same meeting. Is that what you mean? Like I won't like at the interview afterwards. Is that what you're saying? Or we have to have another meeting to vote. No way. We almost could do it the same with I don't know. I'm like extreme double checker. I verify. I'll verify. I'm a tad OCD. So my question tad just like for this

020one, are we doing one, two, three? Our top three and then discussing or are we just voting for who we think should be in the position? What did you take before? Do you remember? Just we we already discussed it before. Yeah. So So we're just voting for the person we want. Okay, I can suspend that either. So, it's okay. There you go. So, what I'm saying is we don't anybody that interviewed before doesn't have to interview again. But they're still in the pool. They're still in the pool. Okay. Yeah. As long as we stick. There you go. Um, okay. Moving on. Oh, so then are going to announce who is she will. Do we need We have one for Marberg, one for Megan Hernandez, and two for Aaron Schber. So, Aaron Schrober, is that right?

021uh gets a school board candidacy now and hopefully in a week and a half we can appoint another one who will reach out. Susie, do you usually post it or does the chair do that? Chair reach out to let them know. The chair normally reaches out to let them know. Yeah. You have a cell phone or something on them? I think they have it on their applicants their application. Okay. I think I got the application. I didn't attend the interview this way. Oh, but I think I have that. I think I do have it. Sounds good. Yep. Sounds good. I can reach out to to Aaron and welcome him to our community. Um 3.4 set an interim super set a date for interim superintendent interviews. Um I motion to set the interim. Do I have

022a second? Second. And then can we have discussion? Yes. Let's start discussion. Okay. It was brought to the attention that we, you know, when we um were here and the lawyer was here and we appointed Susan to do the internship lays on or whatever and then Paul went back and changed changed, right? And I just I just reached out. No, no, no. Unless he put any helpful. So, and and I'm I'm not saying that that's wrong. They just said we had to redo it or whatever. We have to revote if we're going to do that because uh we voted on it. So that was is that law biting? Is that the word I'm looking for? So we just have to revote that whoever wants to do it or whatever. You know what I mean? Well,

023originally it was Sue, right? But okay, my quick question is though March has been doing it for a little while, right? Yes. And so but Susan's now chair, so does that like piling too much on Susan? Yeah. Well, I mean, you know what I mean? have to be your decision on how you want to handle that. But I I being in discussion, there is another individual that sent data to us and that has not Susan has it. Paul had it. Did you ever get that information? Get to Susan. Ron Browy. Jade sent an email on it. You didn't get it? Okay. So, would that be 17 people? Been 17. Pretty incredible if you ask me. I'm excited about that. That's That's crazy. Well, you we're going to have to push it down. We have to

024go through them. Yeah. But my suggestion, if I can I would say that you have all the information from them. Uh and most of you maybe have read everyone. Yeah. What you I would say group like two people go together, two people take four of them, four of them, four of them, whatever. and then come back to the table after that and go through as the two as the double what did you think of these d then the next one otherwise if you're as a board you're going to go through all 16 there's not going to work you mean interview references like well because we're not going to interview all 17 of them you never do no okay now is that legal or not legal because I don't want to like I want to make

025sure that we're crossing every teeny dot in every eye. Do we have to interview all of them? Do they call the Do they call the references on everyone? Is that part of Cuz the finals? Okay. No. Is that what you're kind of saying? Is like we group out instead of having one person do 17, you take four, Sue take four, I take four, and then we come back to the table and be like, "Hey, this is what we found out." We can do that, right? We can do that. That's what we do. How much time do they usually need, Miss P, to get to schedule um interviews? How much notice do people usually do they provide? Uh it's usually on the I think it's about a half an hour. A half an hour interview. How

026much notice though? Because But that will be for 17 people because no, but how much notice? I mean, if we're looking to book and have somebody in place by July 1st, uh, well, that's why we got to get going on. Yeah. And and weed them out. Yep. Not not a nice word, but weed them out and then come back with what we want. So, can we take like the next week? What about what if we took three What if we took the weekend and like three days and Oh, no. We have a if we took Wednesday meeting and made it a special meeting and then we could come back to discussion of what we found out. Does you do you have all the names of whoever and then maybe we could divvy out she has

027all the interview or all the resumes and well she did send it to us. I just don't have my phone out. Yeah. So we could divvy out you know the three four whatever each of us and then for the over the weekend. But my problem is is a lot of places aren't open over the weekend. So take the Monday, Tuesday, take the Monday, Tuesday. But then how if we talk about it at Wednesday's board meeting, would we be Thursday if we let the people that we narrowed it down to on Thursday, whoever we narrowed it down to, could we say start interviewing beginning of next week or do we have to do middle of next week? I'd like to move. Do we have to do the three days, too? I I I would assume we

028would because Well, we have to do our meetings. We have to do our meetings pretty often. So, if we did this on Wednesday, we all talk about it on Wednesday. Well, see, because this is a little different. We're not going through the MSBA. I know. And they vet it for us. We're doing it, you know. But we can we don't need to call the references. You said that when you narrow it down, you don't call them till you narrow them down, right? Right. Because Okay. So, we could meet, but it's Friday. The soonest weekend. Oh, you the three days doesn't count the weekend, does it? Yeah, it's those three days. It does. So, legally. So, legally, we have to have them in position by July 1st. Yes, we would like to have one by July

0291st. I would love a balloon if I could have one place by July 1st. So if so I would really like to see us pull in certain individuals within our community to help us with this process. We did that before, but that was for a superintendent. This is just for y in November. in November when we put it out there that we want a we're searching for a superintendent long time then you get the community you get principles you get like three different entities so my but it takes a long time pardon me who's the third one you get you get the is it the usually sits in because I know Miss Frank and oh students is the third okay three different groups Okay. They met back on a Saturday and they reviewed all of

030them. Okay. And then but this is short term. I I understand one. Isn't this what Mrs. This is what MR was asking to be part of. Mhm. But she asked me again and I said, "Well, this is for an interim, which means we got to get someone not the other one took probably a month." Okay. But I mean, and the time before it probably took a month. If we have staff that is part of our district and their interest, I can't imagine them telling us we have to dial in to their date. If we tell that we have the process we want to go through and we would like them to participate, extend the July 1. No. Okay. No. No. If we have staff, if Mrs. Frank wants to participate, oh yeah, why would we

031not allow? So, I mean, it's a year. It's a year of should be a great opportunity to really help and that's that's but then you would if they get to do that one then people in the community will say well we want to be one too if I see where Mrs. and and and then you've got a lot of organizing. A lot of organizing. Most of them were done on a Saturday because that's when you can get 25 people together. Well, we don't have that right now. So, that's what I'm saying. That's what she's saying. That's what she's saying. She's like, we can't we need to just do it as a board. Well, then what if we did what if we did a special I don't see I mean I get it, but yet I

032mean that is staff. That is part of our district. I mean, those are the folks that are going to participate throughout the next nine months with that individual. I mean, if they're available to sit in, why would we deny that? I I think the community would be accept I'm May I May I tell you what what happened probably 30 years ago when a certain person um that was a superintendent here, he was uh walked out by the board. Um, and I'm not going to go into what he did, but he was walked out basically, not literally. And then within a week or maybe a week and a half, we got an inter cuz he was put in place because he was the other person was out of there. And so we was employer and that

033was Yes, it was. And that was MSBA that put him put got someone to come in. Yes. The board asked NSBA to get so and I know it's a quicker Yeah, but I'm just saying this Yeah, we need this to be quick. I mean, this needs to be quick and that's why the more eyes that look at this could be a little bit more uh constructive. I I that's in my mind. I mean, you're asking the five of us to go through 17 of them. And then we recently received a email saying that we have a gentleman that would be able to step in. I don't know what that means. Does that mean he continues to do his role? He can step in to take that. Yes. as a temp while we're trying to get

034you find that interim. I mean there is that I mean I mean which people have done multi- positions they've done a principal and a superintendent position. I would like to say if there is the opportunity that if we wanted because I we need to move really fast and give somebody the decency of time to to locate but what if we did a special meeting and anybody that wanted to listen to it were there and then they could just share their thoughts with us later. be a fast approach. That'd be faster. Then we're so involving. They couldn't talk during the meeting unless they want to share something at the beginning. But if we did a special meeting for an interview, I'd have to check if that was right. But then they could uh email any concerns

035or voice anything. Hopefully it's not like 100 people because they did like the ABCD. Yeah. You know, the the community. Yeah. I'd really like I'd really think it'd be beneficial to do a very nice one. So in the fall. So right now in November. Yeah. Well, that's one of the is that when they start is November. Yeah. What what we need to do is we don't just need a superintendent. We need to identify what our our severe need is as a superintendent. And that individual would bring the individual would bring it. I get it. It's only a year, but in that 12 months could help us travel or navigate an area in which none of us have any experience with. Yeah. And I know my mind where I'm leaning towards, but I mean as a

036board, we need to identify what is our biggest concern as a district. Well, we have to have a goal and a expectations. Goals and expectations because otherwise that's what they're going to ask because they want to know if they can use shoes of this position. So as as we're talking about what is that I I I know in my mind I know exactly where we need to focus on and follow the programs that we've started and make sure they're there's programs that have been started but frankly I don't think they've been followed but there's new programs and stuff like that programs y okay the one that we all voted like open ed absolutely but that should that is that really our superintendent or can that be our principles managing that and helping Yeah, I thought

037it was the superintendent. Yeah. Well, you know, we could jot down stuff and then when we come on Wednesday and everybody has Let me throw out the big one. It's finances. Yeah. So, right now we're without a business manager, right? Did we I thought we voted on the We did, but it's new. So if we're looking at what we need most moving forward is somebody that's very very strong in finance because how many times have we've heard in the last 60 days that Minnesota finance school finance is very very difficult. So as a interim I think that's something we really need to lean our hat on. It can be what we uh you could have like five questions and the same ones you ask each one and that could be come up with come up

038with question ideas. We meet on Wednesday and take everybody's thoughts and compile something collaboratively and um expectations. Yeah. Fun weekend homework. Mhm. Well, I mean as a superintendent his responsibility is actually the principles, right? That is his people. Yeah. His team that's his team. Then those individuals need to hold everybody else accountable. If our superintendent is getting involved beyond that, we have issues beyond that. Right? So finance, he's in charge of charge of the teachers and administration. His administration. So So I'm sorry. I I missed the finance. Who's supposed to be excellent in the financing? Oh, no. We need a somebody in the in the pool of Yeah. In the pool to look in the pool. Yeah, but they probably interview necessity. Well, no, he's saying that that's somebody he looking for to have somebody

039that has a strong financial background. Yep. But they might not their application. So, that would be a question. That's just it. So, when we're going through the application, I mean, if if they're a current superintendent of Minnesota, that would be a positive, right? Um I'm just we talked about syndrome experience. Yeah. The budget, losing our bud, you know, we're going to that's the big nobody really knows. So, how do we get through that? If we get somebody that is rehearsed in that, then does that take away from our issue of bringing on that what was it? $40,000 for two months or whatever that we're being. Oh, you're saying that if there's somebody that we take on it as an interim that's very savvy savvy could help us financially and then we would have to transition.

040Y because the 40,000 is a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's Did we ever hear uh Susie did uh Dr. Gothrey ever ask if that I forget what's our new place called if they would be willing to start a month early? Ceil the contract starts July 1st. Yeah. Nope. And as of right now, it's what, three weeks away at this point. So, um, and it's that's not the first time somebody's jumped into an audit. And believe me, I I I know exactly all too well how long it is to get dumped onto an audit. So, they have a team. Um, they'll figure it out. Yeah. Good. So, do we need a motion then to add to the work session for the interim? Yeah, we would need to motion for that or to either take

041change the work session to a special meeting depending on how fast you want. I was just wondering how much notice we need to like do they need a week notice whether we're hosting our interviews. Do they need a couple days the candidates to make it to the interviews? The more we can give them the better. I I did see some out of state. So, I'm sure that's going to make it very very difficult. So, we say first we got to figure out who we are because we could possibly meet Monday and discuss that and then yeah, schedule it Tuesday. I'll check your thing. No, I'm looking at my calendar for Monday. Sounds good. Virtual interviews as well for Oh, yeah. No, that's virtual is fantastic. There you go. Good point. That's a great point. I

042wouldn't make somebody drive from Wisconsin. Co gave us that for the power of Well, I'll make a motion then that we have a specialty meeting on Monday just with one item. I'll review and narrow it down for you. Well, what time are you looking at? My goal for women. Honestly, anytime after 1 p.m. is fine with me on Monday. So, okay. The earlier the better because I do have to turn around and head back to up north because I have a volleyball tournament Tuesday morning at 6. The community not in this one. It would just narrowing it down. You'll have your homework. You'll look at your I'll go through all the Are we dividing them up? Are we? Well, I just threw that out. I think I think I I think it's up for I

043can't go through 17. You don't want to go through 17? No, I don't. I mean, honestly, it's like looking at finances. All those numbers kind of just blur together. And that's what's going to happen if I look at 17 Rs. Exactly. That are six pages long a piece. So, what is five divided by 17? My brain is hard. Must be here. Close to three. Three. Just a little over three. So, a couple people want to look at everybody. And so, uh are they were sent in order, correct, Susie? like already received the four 14 of them, weren't there? 16. 16. 16. Oh, yeah. The last two. Okay. But there's there was eight and eight. Yep. Right. Yeah. And the only reason I did that was because I didn't think that 16 go. Yeah. Like did

044he actually apply? He sent all that information I forwarded to you. So that's and and he wanted to make sure that we had it and and at that should have followed up with I would say done obviously. One of you two already have that information. Ron Bradley one of you two want to go ahead and take that one. Who want one of you two? Because you you two have that information already. What's that? You want to take that? Yeah. To read over everything or do you want that to go to somebody else that doesn't have the information, hasn't seen it on Ratley? How about I follow up with Paul and see if he did anything on it? Because Lee Lee Warren told me that he did not apply. So I don't know. Yeah, Le MSV,

045right? And I I would lean towards that. You know what I mean? I'll just look into it. How about that? I have the information you sent me. I'll look into that. I'll talk to Paul and see if he did anything. Let you guys know. So my question is um Susie, do you by any chance have those two emails up or like can you access them really easy? Do can we say names? No, I didn't think so. So can we say like the first I was going to say the first three take four through six. Like let's just do that or go through ABC 1. I have the email cuz that's what we did before and before that we did letters. Can I see your thing real quick? I'll just do this. I will start off.

046Holy fuckets. I need a magnifier glass. Mine work too. Mine are my focus. So are mine. I will just I happily take you taking the first three. Yep. I'll take the first three right here. I have no idea who they are. Perfect. I'll take four, five, and six then. Okay. Which on the first the very first email. Okay. I'm on the second right now, I think. On the second one. This is easy for me because I don't know any of them. So, I'm not biased. So first email I'll take the fourth, fifth, and sixth applicants. Okay. Okay. Is this the first is this the first one? Whatever one came in it's time was uh first one was uh the first one came in 1238. The second one was 12:46. Are you at the 1238? Yeah.

047Okay. So you have 456. 456. Do you want to do one four? I'll I'll just jump on a second email. Okay. Do you want those three? You want to take four then, Jaden? And I'll take four. Sure. You want to take the first four? Okay. So, I don't know which one. Sorry. Next ones. Okay. What are these? One, two, three. So, you take these two. I'll make it if you want to do a specialty meeting on Monday. Take this one. that one item and that's to narrow it down to do we have a number that we're thinking of narrowing it down to four. No, I I She said six before. Let's keep it a little bit because you never know if all of a sudden when you interview somebody you're like sometimes people fall out

048too. Okay. Two. Give me another one. Hey J, did you say you took the first four? Sure. Yep. On ABC. You know that we're all getting older this year. Every last one of us are doing it. ABC. No, I have D E F. You said four ABC. I'm on the first email though. We're not on the same email. No, he's on the second with me. I took ABC. Jade, you took the first four on the second email. No. Did you? No. No. 12:41, which is the second. I got the first four. I took the first email. And I'll take the last three on the first email. No, you have the first. I'm on the first email. Yes. Okay. Okay. But if you want to switch, I'll switch with you. I sure. I don't care. And

049I'll take the last three. Okay. Okay. I have no idea who's on what. So then for board homework, look at it. Look at each of your interviews. We all come together. We narrow it down to six on Monday. What time are we looking at? How long do you think it'll take? I'm probably a couple hours. So I'm hoping not, but yes. It could be a while. You said anything after 1, right? So should we say like 2 o'clock because that gives you like an hour to like get a snack or whatever. Yeah, I I just have to drive from DL cuz that's where Oh, I work from home on Mondays. Just kidding. I can get here whenever. I mean, I still has to be after 1:00 p.m., but I have to I have to double

050check and con my son into substituting. Okay. And he does not work Monday. It's be how's Monday for you? Monday. Just give me 2:00. 2 o'clock work for you. Two. Let's try to do as early as we can. I mean, if 2 p.m. works for everyone, that would be fantastic. Okay. Here. Yes. here. Yes, let's do here. That's fine. Make it easier. Are you closer to the school than the high school? Must be I'm closer to school. But I live here. Yeah. Do we want to all have a couple of questions that we want to put on the five questions come with that too and then we can pick five questions? You know, MSBA if if that meeting is willing, you know, they have done costing money or whatever to search or whatever, but I

051wonder if he could send us um kind of typical questions. Yeah, I'm sure they and we could look them over. Um I'm sure he'd be willing to because he said he'd help even if he didn't do the shirt. They're uh generic, but they're they cover about what you want to know, what you need to know. Superintendent. Yeah. Do does anyone here think there's any value in having a individual that's gone through the interim multiple times? Yes. Well, here's I would like to say would you be interested in continuing to be the the leazison for this? The leison for the in for the superintendent in we'd have to make a motion for that. Yeah. To make it legal again. Would you be interested in continuing on it? Sure. Okay. Well, I make a motion to have

052Mrs. B uh continue doing the stuff. I second. All in favor? All in favor? I I Okay. So, Miss Blay on Do you want to get ask uh Leborn for any questions? Yeah, I'm going to do that. So this deal the questions Susie I'll come in and he they just send a generic generic list and questions and yeah I anything you can think of to ask incredibly nice beating your head trying to think of right and you have to be careful what question you ask him too. Yeah. So then that's perfect then we can just pick five out of whatever he says. So question, we'll have a list of questions down to six. Am I can I am I seeing this correctly? So we have another individual here that's no longer going to be in

053our district but yet raising their hand to be an interim. Did I see Did you not look at all those applications? I just want to make sure I got you. You said that correctly. Okay. So then we have two within our district that are raising our hand saying we would help to make sure we stay in compliant. Well, I would like to know that one is signed up to do the position. The other one is as a email to just the school board saying that I would help you out but did not apply for the year contract. But depending on the person that you get, it cannot be a year contract. And somebody could be like, I will do it until you find somebody. So, whatever. But majority of people, I think Lee when I

054was talking to him said the majority would want a one-year contract. Yeah. So, because I would want to come into something that I wasn't sure if I was getting. So, from my from my opinion, that one is applying for the position. And the other one said, if you don't have something in place, I can help you out for time being, but you never know. If you talk to him more, maybe he would want the one-year contract as well because it is stepping up to take a extra responsibility and stuff. So my question would be are we as as the email? Yeah. We're not saying names, right? Yeah. We're all um the email from Yeah. So let me just throw this out to there. I mean if if we were to take that approach and we

055had an individual that has past um experience in this situation, but we don't necessarily bring them on in that role. We bring them on as a consultant to help that person through the year being it might be able mentorship. Well, not a mentor, just a consultant versus spending 40 up front for two months. And but does that make any sense? Oh, because you're looking more at the finance issue. What do we Okay, you're going to have to You're going to have to I mean, so what do we I mean, what are we doing? What are we doing with this person who's been We have an individual that has six interim over the years has been in an interim position six six different times. He comes across from multiple um local administration retired administrators that say

056he's very very strong in the Minnesota school of finances. we have an individual within the district that's willing to help us stay compliant with our needs from what I understand. Is it silly for us to overrule that and just do the interim? I mean, I don't know the answer to this. Are we should we be looking at is there a possibility to maybe look at that as an offer? Can we bring that other individual in as a potential consultant to help us through this transition to minimize a $40,000 cost upfront? Maybe someone we bring in that doesn't have school finance and has no interim background on it and still kind of pick it up or level. I I think you're getting a step ahead. Why don't you see what whatever superintendent we choose, this person

057probably has already the tools, right? So, we don't have to bring someone in. And then and so this is what I'm trying to say is is so the what was it called again Mississippi the the finance people that we voted on Cecil so Cecil has a team so and they they specialize in school finances so I am good to say we don't need to spend that $40,000 we also don't need to make sure as long as they're working with that team great but I don't think we need to have another intern person come in. Well, where I'm going with it is is we should identify our options as we're going through this, right? That should be something that we want to the business manager company. What are their needs going to be? Are they concerned?

058Not concerned. Is our other option is that real option of having them conta continue to help support us if needed? Is that truly an option? You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, we we have the interim part going. Yeah. But yet is I mean, if I I just feel like we don't want to get pigeon holed just in we're going to find an interim no matter what. I I think there's we have to find what are options. I mean, can we can we Susie, I have a question for you. Um, if somebody had put sub submitted an applica is the once the the applications are they all done? And yeah, that was come up. That's what I was wondering. It was closed. So, I'll check with I'll check with Paul and see where it's

059sitting just where again I just don't want to get pigeon holed that this is what we do and always do it is do we have always consider anything because if if NSBA tells us to do that's all. Well, yeah. I'm just saying definitely got an intro. We do not want to be the only school. No, we have to have somebody but it isn't Now it doesn't hurts to consider anything. Yes. If you want to check with him and that person in that qualifications that he possesses that would bring to that and then we can look at it later and see if all the information we need is there. Okay. But being this is closed that means he didn't put in obviously. So that means it would be more of a consulting side of it. So

060then how would we be able can we legally take that you know well I'll help y and participate that role and then we're not in to the well I see what you're saying but I don't know that we need it with I would say before uh we could I could check if we could if it's something that's possible but before we would want to ask for it we would want to see if it's justified if we actually need that service. So, we just have to let it cuz I don't want to step over their toes. You know what I mean? Because we're hiring them. What was it? 124,000 a year or something. I don't remember what it was that we hired before. So, I don't want to step on their toes. Especially if they're a

061team and they know what they're doing. I don't want to cuz then they can look at us and be like, "Right, we have an audit coming up. We don't want to create a problem before before there's not one." Yeah. I think once we pick the top six on Monday, depending on who the top six are, I think that would be a great question to something to consider. So, we'll keep it there. I think always concern and that's one of the questions I think that I remembered you talked about the financial aspect. Perfect. That's one of the questions that and then that's just it like she and you you said you have more than five. So, what's like what's like the best range of questions when we do do the interviews like 10? Well, if it's

062a half an hour, she said it's a half an hour to speak. So, it might be a lot of questions. Okay. I mean, if they have more than five to give us, I think that's a great idea because there's a lot honestly that I think we all want to ask and know prior to bringing when we did the elementary principal. I mean, there must have been must have been 10 12 questions. Okay. So, you're going to get the list of questions. I will. If you have any questions for me, let me know. I don't know who did the motion and stuff. We need to vote for the special meeting as well. Oh, sounds good. For the special meeting on Monday. You already made a motion. I did. I made a motion. Second. I'll second it.

063Okay. All those in favor of having a special meeting on Monday, I at 2 p.m. At 2 p.m. Can we do it in elementary? No. Okay. Then next time if Miss Be's closer there, we should rotate. Yes. Oh, I don't care. Used to Doesn't matter. Well, two works good for me better than one because maybe I have the kids to sleep when I speak out. It is easier to remember. Okay. So, are we missing anything on this? Well, you you had said in that email you're going to talk about the jobs, too, that Paul had the extra. Oh, yes. To get her on to committees. Is that what you're talking about? We did add it to the agenda. It was too late. So, we'd have to add it to Wednesday's if we make Wednesday a

064special meeting. That's our mean. It wasn't on here. It wasn't on there. Well, let's let's do two. Can we All right. I'm going to make a new motion. Let's do a specialty meeting on Monday at 2 p.m. with two items. Okay. So, we'll do that. We'll add those and then one to assign committees. Okay. So we will put and then the lawyer said it's going to be best practice to get you on right away and then later on when we have the rest of our board members of well for full board we can reassign any way you want. You were looking at getting on the meet and confer now there's a vacancy there so are we motioning that so let's make a motion to we just did I second have two two agendas two action

065items on the special meeting on Monday. Do we have a second? I second. Okay. All in favor say I. I. Okay. So, elementary 2:00. Yes. Yes. My other quick question. Do we have to have like a does the chair do treasural 2 and then like Mrs. B is like it that way? And need what? Uh we need to appoint other seats. Uh if I'm going to be board chair, I was treasurer. So then now we need to have a different treasure. Yeah. And you're the clerk. And then do we want to move to have a another vice chair? Can can we do this? And I don't know if this is right or wrong. Can we have Miss B do the clerk and be the vice chair? Like you have to vote it. Yeah. I did

066have to ask. I know that not all school boards operate with a vice chair. I know that from taking the training that a board chair is mandatory and a vice chair is not necessarily. So if we don't have a vice chair and like say something happens, Miss Bat the train Becky was gone, Mark was gone and then I was okay. And when Brian first stepped on on Brian was gone, Miss Be was gone. So then I read. So there's a But we do need to um We need a new treasury. Okay. I mean, do we not just No, we have to operate with the treasurer based sign and it's not good practice to have your chair be your treasurer as well. Correct. So, we would So, the second I move I would Yeah. So, you're

067going to do that now or later? I I it's not on an action item. Right. Right. Right. So, I think I did pose that in the initial one, but Okay. So, I need to make a motion to be able to elect the treasurer. Is that what we need? We're going to make a motion to fill the vacant board seats. Make a motion to fill the vacant board seats. We're just going to put that on the agenda for the special meeting. Correct. Sounds great. We don't need a You just want me to send them to you? Perfect. And there'll be three because if we have to make any more motions, we're going to look more motions. You guys are good. We're good. Okay. So, everybody's going to do their homework. Look at those. Miss Bear have

068the questions. Well, there uh we can all look at those come to Honestly, if we all divide it down, it might go pretty fast. It might not be a couple hours, right? Yeah. Um if anybody if any I don't Yeah. Any other any else anybody else can think of other than that? We should be good there. And then think about how you want uh expectations, right? Uh expectations and expectations and goals. And if you look at the previous email, the first time when I was doing the leazison, I put in there of what you guys had wrote the last time when they sent MSB a sent it out and it had what we were looking for and stuff. So, it's a good reference. Okay. Now, we'll meet on Monday, come up with those and then

069Okay. Do you have to make a motion to the meeting? No. Thank you. You have [Applause] to stuck to the seat.

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