Board of Education Business Meeting: February 2025

001okay so 7 o'clock um we're going to go ahead and call our meeting to order and then Pledge of Allegiance Tony oh sry all right I pledge allegiance to the flag to the flag United States America indivisible okay perfect uh Kate do we have any citizens comments or people here that have any comments that they would like to make I did not receive anything okay a couple community members if there's anyone that has any comments um now would be in the opportunity to make those all right seeing or hearing no comments at this point we will move on to the spotlight on brownway all right good evening everyone thanks for being with us tonight um for a virtual Spotlight on Brentwood hopefully this this is the only one we'll have to do or um do

002it sparingly so um as you know we split these up into our four categories of uh our strategic priorities um and objectives so um let's get into it our first one is Student Success um so the first one we have um when talking about like Innovative personalized learning experiences and things like that um this is a great example at Brentwood Middle School seventh graders uh worked in teams to design build and program robot Dragsters um this hands on activity is part of Sarah Fifer's Project Lead the Way course which explores the science behind mechanical systems and energy transfers machine Automation and computer control systems so basically students use um the Vex robotics platform form to create Dragsters capable of both acceleration and then Precision to stop um as close to a blue tape line on

003the floor that they can get um so after weeks of work they've been working on this for a long time and if you've been in the high school and you've um walked through through the hallways you've seen the taped lines you've seen them out there practicing fine-tuning tweaking things like that so lots of lots of small detail and PR ision went into this um so they they put their uh machines to the test in a head-to-head competition is part of the school's annual robot drag race so this is something they do every year it's really cool um this was a bigger class the seventh grade class is a bigger class so they had more um rounds of Races they actually had in each heat there were four um and I think there were five Heats

004maybe and then they Whittle it down and um but just a good example of you know um personalized Innovative Future Ready learning um at brenwood Middle School all right so our next one and is as much as we like um Innovative and and um Future Ready things there's also some Staples that we like to keep and that's the spelling be um so these two young men right here um let's start with the young man on the left um that's Mark Twain Elementary School fifth grader AI Burke and last month uh he secured his third consecutive spelling B Crown after an impressive 26 round competition uh very cool to witness that um they just kept going back and forth it was down between him and another student it was just back and forth back and forth

005for um at least 10 or 12 rounds so very impressive um then the the young man on the right MC WTH Elementary School fifth grader Aiden Tran won his second consecutive spelling B um so we just want to congratulate our these two super spellers and then everyone that participated great events for the schools um having families in the building to watch them to to cheer them on you know parents and and and supporters with their phones out recording it was just a just a cool events um to see one of those Staples then of course our third one um you know a spotlight on Brentwood wouldn't be um wouldn't be the same without award-winning art from our high school so um I think we have something every month but uh we want to also congratulate

006um our incredibly talented art three and art four students whose work was selected for the 2025 Young artist showcase at the St Louis artist Guild um there were 400 entries in this highly competitive exhibition um and these four student artists captivated the guest judge uh with their creativity and skill earning a place in the Showcase so um just from we'll start off with in the top left um Helen Gwyn that the name of that piece is Lake hiron Sunset and then below that Leia durum a heart of cooling magma surrounded by water then in the middle um CLA Bluff and then to the or that and that's Jess Fallon and then to the right Noah Schultz is uh that Iceland Pony so um their work will be on display at the St Louis artist Guild

007from February 28th through March 29th and just as always a thanks to Tim rmle um for everything he does to find opportunities for students to be recognized um he he's very plugged into the local art scene and he's able to find ways to get our students recognized um and showcase all the talent that our students are able to create so very impressive all right so moving on to school culture and this is another staple another fun one um Mark Twain and McGrath Elementary Schools students reached a major Milestone earlier this month the 100th day of school um at McGrath kindergarteners marched their way into triple digits with a special parade bringing smiles and cheers from students and staff as they line the hallways um classrooms also participated in 100 themed fun um as students put

008their math skills to the test proving that they were 100 days smarter so you see in the top right and bottom left those two students working on Counting activities um those were led by McGrath math interventionist Aaron Hubert um and just a shout out to her she recently earned her math specialist certification so um she had tons of different things for kids to count um letter tiles paper clips uh cloth pins pencils um and kids and kids were supposed to count them um it was the 100th day of school but not all of them had 100 in them um they were supposed to count them and then let her know what they came up with and um and if that was the correct answer so it was neat to see kids and how they organize

009things and you know they did they do them by fives did they do them by tens um you know stacking them in rows stacking them in piles um but very cool to see um a nice staple of school culture at McGrath and then moving on to diversity Equity inclusion and accessibility um this photo is one of many door decorations at Brentwood High School honoring Black History Month and this year's theme of African-Americans and labor and this celebrates the pivotal role that and the hard work of African-Americans have played in shaping our country's history um and this door specifically is the um counseling student services door so Melody tomaco and Emily Diaz um putting together a nice representation of um African-Americans and their impact on different fields um and highlighting um so before the end of

010the month this month of February each of our schools will host some kind of Black History Month events a lot of them are are scheduled for next week um you know if it's uh stem challenges walkthroughs um with different exhibit or exhibits and things like that um but one of the ones we really want to highlight the Brentwood Early Childhood centers celebration of belonging and that's Thursday February 27th from 5:30 to 7 um so if you're able to attend that it's in the multi-purpose room at becc um it's a great example of all the different cultures um and fostering a sense of belonging and appreciation for uh the diversity in our community all right and then then two more under unified Community engagement um so the first one we love this guy uh Brentwood school

011resource officer Amir habibovic has been named the city of Brentwood Police Officer of the year recognizing his exceptional dedication Community engagement and contributions to both the Brentwood School District and the broader Community um officer habibovic and as we like to call him officer Hobby and that's if you meet him that's the first thing he'll say is to call me hobby um uh he goes above and beyond and his role is SRO fostering meaningful relationships with students while enhancing school safety um you know he does hot cocoa with officer hobby um he participates in the Middle School career fair he's one of the um the more popular ones I would say um it's very it's very interactive um showing kids how to how to uh conduct and investigate a crime scene um he he gets out

012his radar gun and the kids run down high school drive and to see how fast they're running and he also brings Donuts so that might be another reason why um he's one of the more popular middle school career day ones but just a a great person um and and a great way um to recognize him and we're lucky to have him in our schools and um everything he does for our students and staff and community and keeping um our schools safe so and then our last one and this was last month as well brentwood's annual chili cookoff brought the Heat last month is student staff and families gathered for a night of friendly competition um there were 23 homemade chili recipes so attendees were able to sample all 23 and then cast their vote for

013which one they like the best um and after all the votes were tallied um Kim gearhart's Chile Contender was the winner of the Golden Spoon award for a third consecutive of the year a lot of like backto back to backs in this month's Spotlight so uh the third consecutive year that she had won the Golden Spoon at the chili cook off so Not only was this a great Community event um it also raised $1,100 for the Gateway 180 homeless services to further their mission of ending homelessness so just a a little small taste of what happened between our last meeting um if you guys have any questions feel free but um always a pleasure to to highlight good things that are happening in our community thank you Tony this is always a highlight of our

014meetings too those are wonderful updates on bruntwood so then that will move us into our meeting Kate if you would do roll call for us please mark Cicero Ryan Dodson yes Ryan Flynn here Keith ravenberg here Katie Spa here Lindsay Spencer here Terry trostel here great thank you if we could have a motion to approve the consent agenda I make a motion to approve the consent agenda as outlined second discussion all in favor say I I great so that will move us into our superintendence report great uh first up I have Mr Andy hartnet who I have to give a huge shout out to because he was out driving the streets of brenwood uh at about 3:45 350 when he got my first text to see how things were going so want to give a

015huge shout out I know he's had a very long day um so thank you for being here tonight um but his first item on the agenda is the HVAC for building C good evening everybody can you guys hear me okay yes yep we can okay I apologize if I'm a little bit off it's been a long day um but we wanted we wanted to put this in front of the board tonight um we as I've been talking about in several board meetings previously we were working on um upgrading the hbac and Building C which is the main level of the north wing of the High School um we've been working on this for some time um we wanted to try to get some more bids through through some different Partnerships but it just wasn't quite

016working out the the way we wanted it to it was going to take quite some time to get the engineering done and there were some other questions out there as well um however um Dyan did bring us a proposal through the Omni partnership um over the summertime um to replace a a unit that was not um replaced during the um the renovations um um this unit that is currently there has uh been quite a drag on our operations budget to keep it running over the last few years um we're kind of on its last leg uh we're wanting to try to get this done this summer we we are kind of the window is going to be closing here if we don't actually make a decision on if if we're going to do it or

017not um it is a dyen unit which matches all the other units uh at bruntwood high school currently it will run on the current uh HC system that we have the current automation system it will basically be just kind of a turnkey situation um the last three projects that we've had over the summer and the Fall have been through Dyan um and they have all gone very very swimmingly they've been a pretty good partner the last year um and we've had great service through them even and it's a new unit um and I will say that there could possibly be problems with it there just always are um uh little kinks to be to be worked out but um they are always very responsive and they they always uh um make things right um so

018um basically this this unit it's not only the unit but it's all it also includes all the electrical work the ceiling grid work that will need to be replaced and the new VAV systems um and they will come in at um darn it I'm sorry it's been a couple years since I've done one of these virtual things so good trying to get used to it um but it it comes in at uh 47135 I would recommend that we try to move forward with this uh ASAP so we can make sure we get it done by summer it will it will definitely help with our operating but budget um it will come out of capital um which we've already accounted for um and we will also get some Amor and rebates out of it the current

019unit that that is up there um has almost no efficiency um it it's great it runs really well when it's running well but when it's not running it it it it is quite a disturbance to our learning process so um does anybody have any questions I think we'll if we could do a motion to approve this first and then we could jump into questions sure yeah I make a motion that we approve the BHS building HVAC system as outlined second right discussion so I I guess I've got a couple questions Andy so first I you you mentioned this is a brand new hbac system and the budget's almost a half a million dollars is I know other HVAC systems for other types of buildings you can sometimes get used HVAC systems that may not be

020towards the end of their life but maybe they have half of a life uh time span on them is that something that you guys considered or is that possible for a 30ton unit we didn't really consider that um because we're we're trying to get a full life out of out of this equipment especially when we're using Capital fun um if you say you use a a if you have a unit that's used you don't quite exactly know what the lifespan's going to be it's harder to gauge um sure you know you want to give it you know 15 years is a pretty good um lifespan for a unit like that um and that's and that's just the rooftop unit um this this includes the vavs as well uh that will go into each room room

021um which could last longer we don't know um they should last longer um so um we did not consider a used option okay and I noticed that the contract was in July of 2024 is it still is this proposal still valid or has it expired it it is still valid okay okay and then um I guess my last question as I went through it um from a project management standpoint it sounds like walls will be opened up and you know is there I guess what are the risks with that I think we learned a hopefully we learned a lot during our first go around of Renovations but there is that unexpected so while this project it looks like the project budget is you know 400 some, $471,000 what is the true project budget for this

022being unknowns sure sure so th this includes everything however um so so what I will say is in 2019 and 2020 we opened everything up where this project is happening so it's already been opened up so ceilings are have been replaced etc etc okay we we know what's there now I hate to I hate to promise anything I don't promise anything but the risk is more minimal going in to this project as far as finding anything like as best that we don't know about things like that is kind of what I'm I'm figure your question is aimed at um yeah my yeah my question is aimed at you know you know opening up walls W um finding new things but then also closing up those walls afterwards that didn't look like that was part of

023the project budget either no it it is it's it's and it it it only really involves ceilings and and that's just replacement of the ceilings that are taken out to do the project okay so that that's all covered yes gotcha and how many that was actually one of the things I was more concerned about obviously the functionality but also buttoning it back up yeah okay yeah any risk to the roof um anything else out no so the roof um it's it's going to probably sit on a different um piece that will it's like a flange that will go on top of the existing hole um so whatever that is it will all be sealed up it will will be fine um we are also aiming to complete a uh project this summer with the shingled

024roof that is surrounding that area but it should not impact that okay but is that part of the the budget this project budget or is that part of a different Capital that's a the the roof is a different Capital project yes okay okay and how many other quotes um proposals did you guys get and how' you land on this one so so we S three um and we we had interest in a second quote however the engineering was just not quite there um with what we were looking for um could we have gotten the engineering yes but the time frame was going to be really tight and we are just not quite um I don't feel comfortable in going another year with with uh not ha with not having this thing replaced okay and what

025I'm sorry just I'm I'm rambling questions off so please interrupt me anybody but what is the from acceptance of The Proposal when would the first day of pro of the project start and what is the estimated completion date so they give you kind of a a loose loose guess but it would probably be to be towards July um would be the start and completion completion is actually not that bad once they get on it they get on it and it takes a few weeks to get it completed so we would probably be close to when we start school the uh in the 25 school year 25 26 school year okay um but um we we would definitely have it done before then was the um the other one that you were hoping that would work

026out but just engineering just wasn't how much was it was the difference between that bid and this bid well so we didn't they didn't finish the bid to get it to get it in um that was the issue was without doing all the extra footwork they they couldn't give us a number a solid number okay so are we selling our existing unit back to them or do we get how does that work because you know typically I've seen that with other HVAC units you can you you can sell used ones that still have some life left I know this is definitely a different scale but yeah so so this unit was built in like 1994 um it has zero life left I mean we are just like chugging this thing along the only value that

027it has to it is scrap and typically with everything in these kinds of projects what the uh contractor does is they build the price into what the scrap they will get from that unit so when they remove it that's it's basically theirs okay so Andy you mentioned um Amon rebates do you know kind of what those will look like for us I'm not sure yet um however we are working on those for the gym units that we just replaced which are working really well it's been like zero headache the last few months with those things being in there it's been it's been nice but um I'm not quite exactly sure what that's going to look like but um um I know that we kind of pay into kind of like a co-op with with our

028um energy sources so um it's going to be something that we work with uh Matt nor on as well great so I guess questions go ahead yeah sorry just last couple questions so will this interfere with anything um the central office anything going on with uh and summer school during the summer the only impact that it may have is with summer school if if if there's an intention to use that particular floor during the summer which I don't think would be a hard thing to uh to rec we should be able yeah we'd be able to work it we don't have a large enough yeah okay in the way that it's designed that we can work around that easily okay and and I hope that if we do get this approved that we would go

029back to them and and state that we have a very hard deadline to have this completed prior to the start date of school for our students um is that feasible to do I think so and and they've actually been um pretty uh responsive with with uh the gym units that we that we replac it was a hey we need this done by this time before this date hits before it starts getting cold and I mean they kept me updated every couple weeks he this is where this unit is in production um we're tracking it to be here at this date um so they their communication pretty good about that okay yeah I just I would hope that if something does happen because it sounds like the timeline is really really tight right now that for

030whatever reason let's say the unit can't come in until August or September are we then left to wait until we have uh you know winter break or you know spring break to do the installation right if if there is a hold up yes we would probably have to wait until we have a break that is correct okay right any other questions oh go ahead Amy no I was just goingon to say and we'd keep the board updated just like we did with the last one you know it's you know Andy kept me very updated as to it's in production it's in you know as the process went along so we would keep the board updated if if that would happen and of course if there was any kind of delay we would definitely be reasonable

031with with how we schedule this thing to be done I mean you know things do happen so but we could get things rolling I guess if this is approved starting tomorrow is this is this the low I mean it's the winter time now July was obviously was very hot and pricing for air conditioners in July is usually a little bit more expensive than it is in the wintertime um is there any difference in price potential if we go back to them and ask I don't think so necessarily I mean it it wouldn't hurt to ask but um but yeah no I I don't think so um we have had a few things that um we've been purchasing lately that have come in a little bit under what we thought which is somewhat surprising but um

032I don't think it would be like exponentially cheaper yeah I get it yep okay okay um so for the board to approve the new HVAC system um all in favor say I I I I any opposed okay that is approved than youw thank you all thank you next up I have Matt and Joe with navigate um here to give us an update on phase two um this has been in the Weekend Update um with the ADA compliance sidewalks and they're here to just kind of talk us through the um process because this was a little bit uh bigger of a change and something that kind of happened at the last minute and so we wanted to make sure that you they were here and available to answer questions and kind of present where we where

033we are so Matt and Joe I will turn it over to you uh you can just let Tony know as you need to go to the next slide and he will uh Advance the slides for you all right great thank you very much and thanks for having us yeah like Dr zeny said we're uh just going to hear you know give you guys an update on propy uh the bond projects and uh wrapping up this last phase which is the McGrath site work uh so with that we've got a little presentation um as Amy said we we had a you know run in with a sidewalk on site and so we'll go through some of the details and then give you guys an overview of where financially we are with all the bond projects and

034that and that such so like Amy said with me tonight is Joe voic he's the project manager that's running the phase two project and he can uh start us off and kind of run us through this and be here to answer any questions yep thanks for the introduction Matt and uh good to meet all of you uh getting close to the end of this project so nice to put some faces to the board U at least once before it's over uh if you don't mind uh hopping to next slide um like Matt mentioned we're going to hit on McGrath phase two which is under construction and one uh change that's Arisen in the last couple weeks at that project uh and then hit an overall budget update uh next slide please so generally uh the

035progress at McGrath site um the ECC playground installation is due to be complete this spring 2025 uh if you've been at that building uh the play structures up uh all the foundations and play implements are are in place the only thing that's remaining is the PO in place surfacing uh unfortunately due to some early weather uh and temperatures we were not able to get that surfacing laid down um uh due to temperatures being too low for that stuff to set up properly so we're waiting for a good spell of weather here obviously not this week um but uh we we're looking forward to getting that completed uh and then in general the larger project in whole um there's been lots of progress um really around uh Christmas break uh the site Road had the base

036course of asphalt laid um we're we have the Pavilion up and I've got photos of this just a little bit later in the presentation um but unfortunately as we're preparing to por some sidewalks that would connect uh the the West Side Road down to the ECC uh we hit a snag with the city inspector um he threw the red flag uh the day of the poor and mentioned that we our grading wasn't in accordance with Ada standards uh so if you don't mind hopping to the next slide um I'm talking here about the sidewalk that approaches the u8 soccer field there on the left far left so that sidewalk that goes down the hill and around the curve we got paused um and had to readdress with the architect with the general contractor and with

037the city to really figure out why this is happening uh why it wasn't caught during plan review um and ultimately bring this topic to you because it is does have cost implications uh being that we were about to pour uh the general contractor has some rework um and ultimately a large quantity of handrail uh required to bring this sidewalk into compliance the end result is Ada access from the ECC wing of your building all the way up to the u8 soccer field if you don't mind hitting the next slide this is just a little highlight of the area of the sidewalk that I'm talking about so um this scope is along with some permeable pavers and other miscellaneous items the last scope remaining prior to Spring Break um on spring break we will proceed with

038final pavement uh some striping and get the whole site cleaned up and turned over to you but this piece is is the last sort of dilemma that we have in front of us so I'm happy to go into any of the specifics regarding uh the timeline um where we think step missed in plan review or any other questions we may have we can take those now after the end of the presentation do you have a understanding as to why this happened with the sidewalk and is the city right in its conclusion that it wasn't compliant the city's right and it's problems understanding what he's saying um yeah there's some feedback there so I guess if you are not using your mic if we could s um just put them on silence and maybe that'll make

039it easier for the feedback and then um before we jump into this if I could just get a motion to approve uh the changes for phase two and then we'll have discussion I make a motion to approve McGrath Phase 2 updates for the Ada sidewalks as outlined second great discussion so we can jump back into those details now Joe okay so yes the city's right um the sidewalk as originally designed was not up to ADA compliance originally the intent of what is now being called the u8 soccer field was just an open grass field um and so Ada access to just an open grass field was not deemed necessary at that time since its designation the city is now requiring Ada access um and it was not caught on the plan review by the city

040so at this point uh the issue was identified uh the day of the poor which unfortunately has some further cost implications due to rework and there was another part to your question I'm sorry no I think you answered my question the two parts were were was the city correct in its conclusion about ADA and and what did you figure out as to why this happened and I kind of think I understand that okay so does the soccer field also have to be accessible as this one giant handrail or fence that goes all all the way down to the ECC or is there openings in there to ex access the u8 soccer field good question um so the change entails a series of sloped sidewalk sections in flat uh Landing platforms they have to be every

041at some iteration every so often along the length to be compliant and the handrail is on both sides of the slope sections so there there's gaps at every Landing okay so how much did it cost us and Pen penalties basically because they were ready to pour and we couldn't let them pour that day it's hard to break that cost out specifically um I could dig into that and get you a more specific number uh because the way that they pric the change has the rework entailed along with the additional work to make the change um there was going to be rework in terms of grading uh regardless but the work that was tacked on due to a last minute recognition was really the concrete forming out which had just been completed that morning so do

042you think it's also because it's Ada that we're trying to accommodate Keith back years ago when we were trying to look at doing a driveway all the way around McGrath I thought that you know as a district you could do pretty much whatever you wanted like you know the city can tell us what they they would like but in the end we don't really have to ask permission am I wrong on that Keith or if you're asking me I I thought that's I think that's accurate or may have been accurate I I don't remember where we came down on it but I guess my viewpoint is if if um if they're right that it needs to be done this different way to be ADA Compliant I think we want to do that regardless of whether

043the city tells us to or not correct so can I jump in here real quick starting with the Mark Twain project um the city basically obliged us to have to start complying with their requirements uh due to them wanting us to comply with their inspections we never had to have inspections before and now suddenly uh when the Mark Twain project started they required us to get permits and do inspections we were never required to get permits prior to the Mark Twain project so even though the mcrath project went through phase one without permits phase two had to go through through a permitting process um I will make a comment though as well that um the permitting process uh they have also waved the fees which is a certain percentage of the project just a quick

044background that was gonna be my next question if there was any fees but did we did we have it drawn right the first time but they didn't or we had it drawn wrong the first time they didn't catch it and then they just caught it now yes it I mean it went through all the plan review processes um it's it's gone through there twice to my knowledge and um it had not been caught until the day of the poor I guess the only thing I would like us to do is at least share this information of the additional cost that it cost us as a district because it really does cost the taxpayer's money again and even though it's not a lot of money it's still additional money that takes away from other funds and

045when we aren't accounting for expenses like this you know it just takes more money out and it just maybe moves our our projection dates of when we have to go back to the taxpayers so I I do think we need to at least let them know what additional cost was to the district yeah Joe you can work on getting us that information and I can share it with the board if you can kind of get us in a ballpark yeah I have the the final change order numbers I can get shot over to yeah and we'll follow up in the Weekend Update and then we can talk about that from there so so I am curious as I as I look at this too you know would I guess number one would you have ch

046knowing what we know now would the design be any different because as I look at it there's one two three four five six seven seven staircases that you know we've uh when we get snow that is going to be a major pain to uh to to clear so I guess my question is you know where the slope declines the most between the u8 soccer field and the other field you know can that just be one level piece of concrete with one set of stairs that we only have to worry about so there are no sets of stairs there's just sloped sections of sidewalk um and to answer your question the Revis grading plan uh is stretching the maximum slope allowable for Ada very thin um so to actually remove those slope sections adjacent to the

047soccer fields not likely capable okay so so how many uh staircases are there then any or am I oh there's not oh I'm sorry I thought there SL it's like that you slope and and it's a flat to I think I think Ryan where what you're looking at whether it's kind of discolored those are a flat Landing so when when it it goes from a sloped sidewalk to a flat landing and that's where the the handrails oh okay I was thinking the way it was with at the old McGrath we'd had stairs and then flat and then stairs again so okay thank you for clarifying yeah and we we did work quite a bit on um what we could do to solve this issue um and one of one of the one of the solutions

048or possible solutions was well can we put some parking spaces at the top of the the drive lane um however um the issue was how is this accessible from the actual building itself not from the parking lot so if that if that's a question I just want to answer that right now great I mean I do obviously we want to make sure that everyone can use this facility in these field so it's it's good that we caught it here what does it do for the timeline of having this completed so this scope of work is the predecessor to the final topping coat of asphalt which is due to be put in on spring break so the general contractor is confident that if we get the approv approvals after this meeting that he can get this

049work barring the handrail installed before Spring Break um they would likely come back after spring break to install the handrail but they would be able to finish that asphalt road okay Bard any other questions about this part of the project okay I guess we can move on with the other updates yeah the other parts of your presentation Joe yes thank you um so next I've just got a couple photos of the McGrath Phase 2 site uh here you can see the the asphalt roadway coming down the hill uh and the retaining walls that went up around the perimeter uh those gravel areas there on the left photo will be the permeable p stalls your extended parking lot there next slide please these are a little outdated already um but the Pavilion has gone up uh

050they're on the left uh it's got the sheathing on it now and the last thing remaining is Roofing uh and then on the right you can see the playground at the ECC uh it's all up minus the the shade canopy which isn't supposed to be up in the winter anyways and the the PO Place surfacing Hey Joe can I interrupt you real quick I just want to talk a little bit more about the playground is is it it it's done in theory however we're still working on making sure um we have the fall zones calculated correctly is that right Joel yes and then also that's gonna uh once we get that figured out that's when we can actually put the fence around it and then once the fence is installed we can put the soft

051surface play area uh as long as the temperatures allow it so go ahead Joe sorry yep no no worries um next slide please that's all I have there um so next I'd like to just go through an overview of the um bond issue budget overall and I I'll preface that when we get to the McGrath Phase 2 sections I've assumed that the cost of this change order we just discussed uh is accounted for right I'm spending that money in McGrath so these numbers that you're going to see are after that cost has been uh incurred um McGrath early site work and the new McGrath building nothing's changed those have been closed out for quite some time um Mark Twain you'll see that the owner contingency line has been reduced to zero um that's a twofold

052reason one uh we came to a final change order with IC to get that project completely closed out uh we don't have any other open change uh potential cost items I should say so just uh one last final change order to execute uh and that one will be closed out completely um there was additional funds left in that contingency amount um so to offset some of the costs using the prop e money we zeroed out the contingency at Mark Twain and pulled it back just as an overall propy contingency so if you don't mind going to the next slide you'll see the total cost the total budget and the remaining contingency for the proposition as a whole uh $41,000 remaining after all of the costs associated with uh Mark Twain's final change order uh this

053Ada sidewalk change order uh and every other potential item that we've identified so far that may not even have cost directly from the general contractor yet but we've we've taken little pieces and reserved costs for some potential changes there and we still have 50 I'm sorry $41,000 remaining on the prop e as a whole so I I just can I just make a a quick comment here just just to clarify though our prop e budget was 29 million and we did have some overages and and that's not your fault on this you were given that but just a point of clarity our prop e budget uh that the voters approved was 29 million so we got some the additional $7 million from the sale of the uh the central office and the ECC uh along

054with some of additional funds from Investments and other areas so I think it's important just to be transparent with with the community that our propy budget was 29 million not 36 as as indicated thank you uh I believe that's the last slide um if there are any other questions I'd be happy to uh do my best to answer can we ask questions now or do we have to no we're we're yes we've already done the motion so we are in discussion on the Pavilion is there electric on the Pavilion that's being put back at McGrath that's a good question that that I would honestly need to check back at the drawings to give you a a correct answer on uh I do not know that off the top of my head okay because it was

055before we took the Pavilion down it had Electric Run to it and so we told the people that we would return it to the exact same condition so I want to make sure if it's not ran that it gets ran before this is totally completed because that was paid for I'm sorry I was just going to ask if I could shoot am me an update uh after I get a chance to look at those drawings i' love to answer your question and then also in front of the Early Childhood playground we had talked about having those same I don't know what you call them but they're like poles that come up and come down and we had them over at the old Early Childhood is that still being done I couldn't I couldn't tell when

056you guys were talking about the different pictures if those are being put in or not do you mean so that cars can drive or not drive correct because we had an incident at the old Early Childhood Center where a car went through the playground and so that was one of the things I brought up um when we were going through this that we really need to look at that because it's going to be a very crowded thoroughfare where people are coming through picking up kids I believe there's a fence and Andrew yeah there's a there's a fence but there's also like a double bike rack that's kind of in front of there as well um so it does have a lot of safeguards as far as that's concerned when you say fence like what kind

057of fence I mean it's it's a it's a like a big I I don't want to say rod iron fence but it's it's a fence if you look at the top left of that left photo you kind of see a black aluminum fence in the background this photo the one with the Pavilion yeah was there a reason why we didn't do that because I thought we had a big lengthy discussion and that that was the direction that we were going to go with when we talked with Brian Lane about that can anybody from navigate you're talk you're talking about a big pillar that uh can withstand a a vehicle hitting it to protect the uh Early Childhood Center is that right Carrie yes there was supposed to be two or three because also the police

058or the fire department has to have access back there so that was why we talked about having those so that they could control them going up and down so this fence that's going up is that a fence that comes open and closes um I'm just confused on the change so that idea was never and my knowledge wasn't brought in the user group meetings or anything like that however we in this area where the drive lane is we do have several uh stop guards as far as where between where the actual fence for the CC playground is and uh the drive lane so what are stop guards I mean we've got this huge bike racks they're they're they're in the concrete they're steel um I mean we could look at doing something like that but um

059it would be oh they they are stuck they're bolted To The Ground by they're in the concrete they're they're not even bolted they're oh okay footed in the concrete okay but but it's something I'll we we can put eyes on it and just kind of make sure that that's you know I mean I could go back to recordings and pull it back up I know Matt and I was there and so was the other gentleman I was pretty adamant about yeah the cost and getting costs and coming back and we were told it was not that big of an increase but I mean at least the the bike racks are you know embedded in the concrete is there anything in the driveway itself to prohibit traffic or is that just open so the so the

060driveway that runs East and West there's nothing that prevents that however no the fire lane that oh the fire the fire lane is not open there is a gate there okay thank you yeah which would it remains locked basically all the time unless there's a need to open it which the fire department would have used to and I I do have one additional question the change order uh is the city aware that the u8 soccer field is not going to be enclosed by offence so technically is that really accessible by the uh by the rest of McGrath and require this change or is that something that they they didn't have awareness I I just relooking at this I see that there is a fence around The U10 soccer field so that's why I question if

061the if the city was aware of that or if that would change anything that was a discussion that we had as well um and and they said no just with it just being even on the property it would have to be something that is accessible thank you and Carrie I will look into that with Brent with hdk on the ballards and that that whole discussion see what we have there go back to you thanks hey any other questions um about our construction program projects here any other questions about the change order that we will need to vote on here as well just that once we get that information I think it would not be a bad idea for even us individually as board members to send some letters to planning and zoning and the City

062because I think it's something that they need to be aware of um you know that you know we need to watch all of our taxpayers dollars I feel like they should have to pay for since we were already having someone out there and getting ready to pour that day but that's just me it is it is unfortunate and frustrating I that's how I feel all right um we do need to vote on the change order so all in favor of the new um ADA compliance sidewalk say I I any opposed right that is approved he thank you Matt and Joe I appreciate your time tonight thank you have good night um we are next GNA turn it over to Dr Zagora for her K12 science curriculum uh presentation for approval all right thank you um

063and just correct me if I'm wrong we're presenting tonight the board will vote on this next month correct yes okay okay so um just a very quick overview because there are no major changes um this is I'm presenting to you the science curriculum and materials recommendation for board approval next month you can go ahead and click to the next slide um as a reminder our curriculum cycle we are on a seven-year cycle so every seven years these content areas come up for revision um and so the this science revision actually occurred um last spring so immediately after school was out the curriculum writers got to task and worked on revising and rewriting the the science curriculum K through 12 so most of that work was done um in late May early June uh and then

064just tweaked throughout this school year when the the curriculum committees had time to come together on some of those CIA days um so 2425 is the revision we will be adopting new materials for the start of next school year so fully implementing that new curriculum in the 25 26 school year next slide here's where you can find that curriculum so the on the public landing page for the Embark program the science curricula are all in one section and all of those that are being um presented to you tonight are for review over the course of the next few weeks are marked as pending 2025 Boe approval um as a reminder to the board this is the last year that we are entering new curriculum into the Embark program we will be um over the course

065of the next several months looking at how we can take the curriculum out of Embark and house it somewhere so that it is still publicly accessible um to our community but we moving forward will be actually doing our curriculum writing in a Google format which then we will house in a Google Drive and make that visible to our community um and so as you click through Embark and and go into those courses you'll see um that it it may take you a few clicks to get there um but you should be able to see those units how the standards are aligned our goal moving forward in when I'm presenting this to you next year with our Ela curriculum is that we will have um a a much more userfriendly visible representation of what the curriculum

066is so that you can truly see how that curriculum spans K through 12 what a year in a course looks like and have the mapping um just a l more or more visually friendly to you all to get a good overview of our curriculum next slide so this is a simple presentation to you because there are no major changes so since science curriculum was last revised in the previous cycle there have been no changes in standards at the state level and so we haven't had to do any significant reorganization of our curriculum um or rep prioritization there have been no major course changes outside of what I came to you in December with the new robotics course that um will be housed within the science department at the high school but that's the only major

067change otherwise it was just tweaking of um how to organize some of those standards within two units and um fortunately here in St Louis we have access to a wonderful curriculum resource which I'll talk about with the next slide here our material selection so we will continue in kindergarten through 8th grade to use the myai curriculum myai is developed by The Institute for school partnership through Washington University I will say that it is one of the best curriculum resources I have ever seen in a couple of Decades of public education because it is locally developed my site Taps the expertise of classroom teachers they invite classroom teachers from the districts that use mysite every year to Pilot new units to give feedback on new units it is extremely intuitive for teachers it is highly engaging

068for students um it is very tightly aligned to Missouri learning standards and what the priority standards are and Science and so we are very very fortunate to have that partnership um we do purchase this the resource it's not free but we've been using that since 2020 and we are going to continue using that through our next curriculum cycle um if the board approves that next month and one of the wonderful things about the mysi curriculum resource is that it is not static and so when we adopt it we adopt the units that currently are available but the myi and wasu partnership are always evolving and adapting and so every year there are new iterations I think some of them are on version seven sometimes it's the same unit and they just revise and tweak it

069based on feedback from teachers sometimes they replace units that maybe you have gotten a little bit stale with some new ones that cover the same standards but are new content and more engaging and it also ensures for our students that as they stay with us kindergarten all the way through eth grade that they're not getting I my my go-to my joke here is always the water cycle they're not learning the water cycle 10 times in eight years um they are learning those standards and they show up differently as they SP rooll throughout kindergarten through 8th grade um so I'm excited the teachers love it they're very excited to continue using it um at the high school level there's no myai for high school but at the high school level um where we've got our our

070content experts um our High School courses have selected some of them a combination of hard cover text and digital programs they reviewed a number of options from the major Publishers and then including those that we offer for advanced college credit sometimes there are different Publishers that we invite um to to share material materials to review for our upper level courses um and then our teachers also they're constantly supplementing with resources that are current and engaging um and then this is also our opportunity to refresh some of our equipment that we use in our High School classrooms and so this um cycle we will be replacing our high school microscopes um and actually the microscopes that we have are going to be passed down to our middle school so they'll be taking those to use at

071Middle School um and then we're also plan to update some of our lab quest interface equipment and so these are the tools that plug into the Chromebooks but then have various sensors that can be attached um that we use in our labs in high school so it may be you know temperature sensors pressure sensors things like that um that are are um really very real life for what students would be using if they end up working in a a lab of some kind but also give us quick data that they can then use to hit some those data standards to evaluate their labs and and um take those measurements and draw conclusions from them so any questions about science curriculum Ronnie I do have a question regarding um AP classes or college credit related um

072as as the cycle of re-evaluating our curriculum progresses every year or so is that the point in which that conversation comes up like how do we start to take advantage of those other opportunities do they need to go through the curriculum review yeah that's a great question um so I would say no I don't think they have to go I I would never want to wait six or seven years to introduce a new course just because that's when the course is on cycle um and I think you know the the robotics course is a great example even if this were not the science curriculum adoption year that that course proposal would still be one that we would review um so the AP versus Advanced Credit I me advanced credit is always dependent on the the

073level of Education of the instructors we are very fortunate in brenwood that we have a lot of high school teachers that have master's degrees in their content area that's what allows us to offer so many courses for college credit because the this the standard is pretty high in the state of Missouri of who's able to teach those um AP courses we can add at any time it requires that the teacher go undergo a training a summer training that certifies them to teach that AP course and so one thing that we're doing now um as we head into next year is part of our our 612 kind of mapping out our Pathways is we're looking at what are all the courses we have on the table getting feedback from our community of what would they like

074to see um and then really making sure that we are not watering down our own options for students by offering too many make sure we're offering the right things at the right time and so um as we do that across the board in all of our content areas 6 through 12 that'll definitely be part of that conversation of where do we want to beef up maybe some AP off offerings where do we have some great dual credit offerings um I think our high school staff our counselors our administrators our teachers do a great job of educating our parents of why is it that we have all these dual credit and fewer AP courses what's the benefit of these dual credit courses um I'm sure those of you that have had high school students go through

075brunwood High School know the value of accumulating a lot of college credits at low cost um and it's still a really rigorous and um high level of Education that we're offering our students so so the short answer is is no we don't have to wait for the curriculum cycle to evaluate those things that'll be ongoing and something that um I'm excited to do next year with all of our content areas I would just like to offer that I would love to see us educating and providing that same Clarity to the Middle School families I think when it comes to attrition they are actually more important to understand because I agree yeah yes and I can vouch that the college credit courses are very beneficial and you know I think this discussion comes and goes every

076year but there are some AP classes that are not counted at universities and I hear from parents whose kids did both and had kids that stayed in brenwood and went other places and I've never heard heard I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I have not heard a story yet where a college credit course has not been accepted you know my daughter went in to college she was a second semester sophomore when she left Brentwood her freshman year that's a huge savings yeah huge yeah great that was wonderful information um and I like that we're going to a Google doc format because every year when these come up and we have to go through and look at what is being offered and get details on all of our courses it is a little tedious so

077bringing that more inhouse with some more control um and details for the community is going to be wonderful next year so thank you for that reminder thank you do we have any microscopes at the middle school that can go to the elementary school I'm excited that we are you know Recycling and reusing that's a good question I I I don't no off the top of my head I will say one of the um perks of the myai program is that they send over kits with all of the supplies and materials and equipment that we need for the units that we do in K through 5 um and the reason that we we add those microscopes at middle school is that while we do the myai units there are other units that are not myai at

078Middle School at elementary all of the science units are myai so the supplies and equipment do come with them um but that's a great question I mean if we can repurpose anything I'm all for it and giving teachers access to things that they could use to engage students so I I'll ask that question okay are we ready to move on next up we have uh Matt noritt with the ecsc um agreement sure thank you um each year we have uh we place in front of you all as a a board the recommendation to accept our partnership agreement with Special School District to provide Early Childhood special education services through our Early Childhood Program uh we receive a certain amount of reimbursement participating in that program based on the number of students that qualify for IEPs

079and also um for a percentage of the square footage for the utilities and some of the other consumables uh this is a renewal typically we get this a little bit earlier in the year so we apologize for the the lack of timeliness with this um with this agreement this year I do want to thank uh Miss travina hot Stellar for working with us to try to help SSD to get this to us um without her help I don't know that we would have gotten this at the same at as soon as we did um we did put this we did table this from or we did recommend holding off on this agreement from last month uh until this month while we did review some of the reimbursables on this um but we are in agreement

080with the amounts recommended for reimbursement uh and the percentages that are being used in the attachment of this agreement we are repr uh presenting this item with the recommendation for approval I make a motion to approve the agreement to reimburse SSD for 2425 as outlined so one one second there there they will reimburse us I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on that this is SSD is um will reimburse Brentwood School District for costs C uh okay so I'll make a motion uh for the 2425 agreement to reimburse partner districts for EC SC cost between SSD and frenwood School District Second Great uh discussion okay okay well all in favor say I I thank you any opposed yeah I think we're good thank you I got on that too quickly I apologize thank you we we

081were just excited normally this is like a September agenda item so we're really excited it was there's a lot of there's a lot going on uh around everywhere so we are excited to get this taken care of and thanks to Matt for doing his due diligence to make sure that the numbers were accurate and reflective of the services we provide so thank you for going the extra mile on that um the next up is the accepting tuition students I did want to Circle back around to this conversation it says it's an action item but actually the action would be in changing the policy so I just need kind of a nod from the board to draft a policy if we do want to change it in the Weekend Update I shared with you the research

082that we had done on those um neighboring districts that uh do accept tuition paying students um outside of Clayton if you'll remember those whose policy allows for tuition paying students um nobody sees more than you know a handful at most that take them up on that um a handful is actually a lot for most of the districts many of them have never actually seen it be used before um and so again outside of Clayton this is not something that would be a money maker for us I think it's it's something that if we want to change the policy it could Pro provide opportunities um you know my recommendation is we talked through this and we did our research that I put in the Weekend Update would be to change the language perhaps to allow um

083for students who have been previously enrolled in the Brentwood School District to paid tuition um we already allow seniors to stay if their families would move we allow them to stay actually without paying tuition to finish their senior year but this would allow families that if they're moving their you know sophomore year their you know to stay um and pay tuition to maybe stay until a natur a more natural transition if they are interested um so this is just something uh um there's a lot also going on this is this is not open enrollment this is not tied to open enrollment um but there are other things going on in the state so this tuition rate um again it would be the 24,000 that we said at the last board meeting so we can't that's

084what we would have to charge um but that what I just need to know from the board is direction of I we can have um we can tweak the policy and bring it to our policy meeting in March it would just be helpful as we go into registration to know if that is something again I do not foresee us having any takers but if we are going to make the change in the policy it would be good to make that change as we go into enrollment and registration season um and we can you know draft up the language and have that ready for the March policy meeting I was trying to reread your thing as you were talking had a question what if we have a student who is in the um the Vic program

085or which program is it that like if they're in elementary they can't go to um middle school because they're going from a building to a building they'd have to go back to their District if their district is now that doesn't yeah that doesn't exist anymore that was with the Normandy transfers and the river and the students from Riverview Garden when they got they gained back their accreditation students were only allowed to stay until a natural transition as part of the uh transfer law so that was something that we couldn't control um I we we had the same conversation in my the district I was in at the time um we didn't have the ability to do anything um at that point um because we also at that point had a policy that we couldn't do

086tuition this would allow if that case was happening if people wanted to pay the tuition they could have um if we had the policy stating that right now our Vic students um they're able to stay the V our Vic students will be with us until graduation or until um they would choose to to leave the program but they they're allowed to stay through graduation um so it wouldn't necessarily um they wouldn't need it but again like I said really the the main families that it would uh impact would be families that perhaps were moving or having some sort of transition if they would choose to want to to pay the tuition to stay um again based on the research I don't foresee us having a large so I don't we don't need to belabor this

087but if we do want to change it it has been something we've talked about I think it is good to revisit policies um if we want to keep it the same because there's other changes happening in the in the future or there may be other changes happening in public education I am also fine with that but I do want us to hopefully revisit and get a little Direction on what we need to do next so that we can have that ready to go as we start uh enrollment and registration in March have we had U am have we had any um parents reach out and ask you know if they are moving if that is if this is a possibility for them to stay or Pete may know a little bit more we get people

088that ask about attending Brentwood I don't necessarily know if yeah I don't know if they're asking if they're moving we have had um we've actually had staff members ask if they're not working here anymore can their kids still stay here if they're that's happened twice uh since I've been here um now whether or not they would have chosen to pay a tuition rate I I don't know uh but they they have asked that Kate I don't know if you've gotten any calls that give you that level of detail or no no the calls I get tend to be from people in other districts who want their children to go here even though they're not going to be living in the brenwood district okay I think it makes sense to you know at least start the

089conversation about opening it up to current students who parents may be moving and they want to stay um stay in bruntwood and offering tuition as an opportunity there um I think if we opened it up any further I would I would want a little bit clearer of maybe a lack of better word of business plan you know if we do want to start targeting uh tuition paying students what does that look like how are we going to Market this how what is the cost going to be for us to go through and do that and then what is our goal how many students are we going to be targeting um if we if we decide to go down that path um I think that's a lot more I think a lot more discussion needs to

090be had if we go down that that path but I think at least opening it up to talk about existing students staying um if the if if the situation allows for them to pay for tuition I I agree yeah I feel like this is an easy step right now there's so much unknown with open enrollment and things I would I like I said I this feels like a natural easy stop start um because some of those other things are going to be out of our hands and to I don't say out of our hands to put a lot of work into something that may completely change anyway because of changes in law um not that we won't still have to to address some of the things you just mentioned if the Law changes but it

091it it takes care of some of that for us if you if you will so to to put a lot of time energy and effort into something that in a year could look the face of it could look not even in a year in six months or so it could look so vastly different this feels like a good natural um kind of just little baby baby step if you will little open does allow families because right now we would have to turn them away if they asked um and this would allow us to not have to and you know again it's still a pretty nice uh it's it's a good chunk of money so I don't know how many would take us up on it but I think it's good to at least be able

092to offer you know parents move for a lot of reasons and you know somebody who's a going to be a senior in high school I can tell you for my personal experience in high school we moved my junior year and I would have loved to have had that opportunity to do so something like that so I think it makes a lot of sense at least to have that option out there for um existing students yeah I'm in agreement as well I think it's a good plan moving forward so if we're good with it I'll I'll work um on the language of that and bring that to the policy meeting and we'll look at the policy together and then that's when we'll we'll officially approve it if that's if that works did you have something I

093have a couple questions yeah um if if we're going to do that um our the tuition number we set at 24,000 or whatever that was I thought my understanding was is that that meant we couldn't charge more than that it seems like that price might be prohibitive no matter what we do um and if we are going to be in the world where we allow you know even a narrow slice of them it seems like that has to be adjusted to a number that actually makes sense uh because I think it's it's I think it's too high uh for people to reasonably consider it and then I guess what I'm thinking and I think we need to keep talking about this and you know if we're going to go so far as to to allow

094for these these hypothetical kids from families who are moving seems like and if we don't think there's really going to be a big demand anyway it seems like why don't we just open it up and see what happens and I think with you know and something you alluded to Amy with the moves for open enrollment I think you know that's gonna a lot of stuff's going to be beyond our control to some degree and the more we know about how to do these things when that kind of thing happens I think it's the better for us so I you know I I think we have to keep I think we have to analyze this a lot further so I I think it probably makes sense to to do what you're suggesting Amy for now I

095wonder about the price and I think I need to understand I think we need to understand can we just change that at any time I mean we don't want to change it at any you know just willingly but I think it needs to be adjusted to something that makes sense in the market I think or if it's going to be foed upon us by state law is it in our benefit to have it a high number that you know then you know that the other district has to pay but then that's going to depend on how that's all funded and you know that's all up in the air as well so I I guess what I'm I'm rambling and saying this is a complicated issue I think it doesn't seem like there's a big downside

096as long as we have a price that makes sense and as long as we have control over class sizes to open it up and see what happens not much will happen you suspect which I suspect you're right but I was struck by what you said how many kids are actually T have taken Clayton up on it yeah um will you remind me of that number didn't you say it was something like 60 it was like 35 yeah I thought it was 60 but it's 47 but that has increased I guess the 47 is like one of their higher numbers so they're at 35 at the secondary level and they're at um the remaining 12 or at the elementary level so and their tuition can you do off the top of your um there is I

097think around 18,000 Matt if I'm wrong I think their height their secondary is about 18,000 yeah it's right at 19 sorry okay thanks we did uh we shared the comparatives with um the school board as one of our updates a couple what yeah that's I remember you saying 19 and um you know that's I'm sure they put some thought into that and looking at the prices that are the um the private schools are charging these days which I don't really know sounds that probably sounds in the ballpark for some of them yeah Clayton's comparison looks like it's based on private school and they write a memo with it which states they want they don't want to be as high as the private education but they're comparing themselves to private right so how did we forgive

098me for not remembering how did we land at the 24,000 that's what it takes to not lose money what the instructional that cost right yeah that's the instructional cost based on the desie formula that they give um where you're able to take out your debt service and take out I'm using the right words right bonding and yeah uh your debt and capital and so you're able to take those out um and that's how you determine the instructional it doesn't actually cost us $24,000 a student to to educate especially if you're putting a cap on the amount of students in um so that you're not hiring an additional teacher um so if you're only which is what we would obviously do is that you wouldn't um accept students Beyond a certain capacity um so again I

099I agree with Keith I think that there's you know there's a lot more to this and there's a lot of layers that we can peel back um and that could that we are absolutely can continue to talk about um but until we change like I guess for me it's kind of like do we just dip our toe in to start this piece um and we can talk about other pieces or and we don't have to by any stretch um it's just a matter of uh if we don't do it in the next month or so then it's okay okay it'll just be a different school year I mean because people are going to be wondering um they're going to be wanting to do this digging as they're looking at schools for next school year I

100think the part that I need Clarity on I feel like I'm missing something because I'm not aligned with everyone when it comes to the price that Desi says that we can set if our goal is to open it up and we already have the teachers and we're not shifting like really we already have resources that can serve more more students why wouldn't we in this practice go around with a very limited demographic why wouldn't we match Clayton's price or even go under it very slightly if we're trying to feel this out and see who is interested that's not the net we're casting but it does make it more affordable I I think at a price tag of 24,000 it's cost prohibitive and it's kind of like a silly exercise I agree with that completely Y

101and and uh uh do we have this is a little bit off track but well it is on track but I remember years ago because of the the these legal issues about having to take transfer students from unsupportive districts or something like that we built in some class size limitations I thought into our policies and I can't remember for sure if we did that I guess in any event we need to make sure that we have a we have control over that that we have the right to say no if you know if all of a sudden a bunch of people sign up which we don't think it's going to happen but we need to make sure that that's taken care of as well and then um and I agree completely with what Katie just

102said I think um it it's it's an abstract hypothetical exercise if we're charging more than anybody else in the county no matter who they are I think it doesn't make any sense and so we're not going to learn anything from it I don't think but but then what do you set you know I think you have to go in that ballpark of what Clayton's doing um um and uh and again I sorry I'm rambling again um so I think it needs some needs some thought okay a question for Matt as and Katie asked this question that calculation of 24,000 was based upon some formula that the state puts on us but I thought I understood that that's kind of a we can set any number we want if we wanted to set it based upon

103per pupil expenditure that's what that was but if we want to set a different number like Clayton did we could do that am I correct about that so we could uh the board could approve a lower rate they just can't approve a higher rate than the amount that we authorized that's what I that's what I thought you said and so so we could change that next month if we wanted so what we did during the the last meeting was we we required by policy to establish that tuition rate before February 1 got does that have to be the rate that applies no matter what for the next school year or can it still be changed my understanding is that's the rate that we would be establishing for the coming year now we could revise that

104next year going into the 2728 school year but the rate that we established and the board authorized should beate that we have okay said now we could look into if we could revise that we we did that as a method to meet our policy and meet our policy requirements right and I I thought I understad it was a cap in essence and so so that the calculation is the cap the when the board authorized setting the rate that's the rate that we established for the following year so the board the amount that I presented the board could establish a rate that's lesser than that amount and if we change the policy then could it go into effect immediately or would we still have to wait another year because I'm hearing from Amy that you know

105if we're going to do this we need to do it sooner than later or we're into another school year so maybe I'm misunderstanding but what what I'm understanding is one is we're talking about a tuition rate that is just it's just just mechanics where we're setting it because policy requires us to and that's really a throwback to uh Normandy and Riverview Gardens sending kids due to unaccredited um what Dr zinsky is referring to is allowing or accepting students uh paying tuition under very narrow circumstances but what I think car's asking and this is the important part because again if if we wait a year we wait a year I I I honestly I mean that your point Katie I don't disagree with you that this could all be an effort and futility if the number

106is so far outside that nobody's going to take us up on it um and this was you know so if if we can't ad adjust that 24,000 at this point for next school year that's fine it'll give us a year to work out all of the other things that Ryan mentioned and you know Keith had talked about but I it at least we'll know the timeline better than we did this year as we're trying to kind of work through this as a conversation that was brought up you know this summer we wanted to revisit it we wanted to see kind of where we wanted to land on all of that but if I mean again I I I I don't want to say I don't want to belabor it because I think it's an important

107conversation because I do think that there are going to be changes in the near future that are going to have us having these conversations around marketing around bringing in students about knowing our cap for our grade levels to your point this is all work we're going to need to be doing um so it's not it's not I don't want to make it sound like it's an effort in like futility to do it now I just don't want us to put it on ourselves where we have to get it done in a month because we're trying to rush it versus doing it right and well over the course of time that we need to do it so I guess the the short question that I have Matt is if we wanted to do it for next

108year could we go back and refine that $24,000 or is that set for the next school year and this is a conversation for us to work on over the course of this year doing all the things that we've kind of talked about at this point otherwise we' even if we changed it it would still have to be the 24,000 so I would reach out to msba and I can do that this week because we've met our policy requirement now it doesn't necessarily in in my opinion mean that we can't establish a new rate the the point of the law and the and the msba policy that's aligning to rsmo is that we have a tuition rate for the coming year and that we're not you know adjusting that tuition rate um while kind of like

109uh at an ad hoc basis so um I would I would prefer to reach out to msba to ask for that clarification we can do that you were right we did talk about numbers and classes but it would be interesting to see if we specified those numbers in a policy I don't know that we ever did I I don't think I've looked at our policies when we were looking at the kindergarten numbers in uh McGrath and I don't think we wrote down hard numbers in the policies that I saw but I could have missed it um so we can do some more I can we can reach out to msba around that piece do some digging around um what is reasonable and do some research I mean we already have the comparables it's not hard

110we can you know present what we think is a reasonable uh tuition rate if we want to change it and add it to that very limited scope of of student um I would really like to do that I think that would be a really positive step towards feeling out what it's like and this is such a narrow demographic and just letting that message get out there that at a more affordable tuition I I think 24,000 is an appropriate but I we could find an appropriate tuition for our narrow demographic as step one I think that we should so I will do that work and again it'll be the same thing that I'll bring the draft to the March 4th we don't approve anything at that March policy meeting but I'll pres I'll show it um

111and have some of this information there and we can have continue to have a dialogue around that with um the other policies if that's okay if that is okay with the group um you don't have to vote on anything tonight but if that's okay we'll do a little bit on our end to put together some proposals uh with numbers of kind of the class siiz range that we're looking at we'll look at um tuition rate and then we'll just talk through that uh with what the draft policy would look like um as part of the policies and then we can decide from there what we want to do I I think that makes a lot of sense I just I just a word of caution I think I I certainly don't want to throw something

112in just to you know throw something in to see if it sticks on the wall I mean that that that doesn't really I I don't think that does us a lot of good uh also from a timing perspective a lot of the um you know private schools uh the those folks that students that would potentially come to Brownwood I think that that ship is a effectively s already so I think it makes a lot of sense for us to do maybe a little bit more due diligence really do a deeper dive into some Market analytics to see exactly you know what appropriate uh tuition could be as opposed to just shooting from the hip just I I just I think more due diligence and getting a good process down um and understanding what the cost

113would be for us to Market and give students tours and all of those things that we may not be considering right now just because we want to offer this but there is a cost that that is associated with it an indirect cost an opportunity cost I think that certainly makes sense especially if we open it up to the general public if we're just talking about our current students that might have an opportunity to stay it is I think we have a little more wiggle room oh for sure yeah y I agree 100 perc yeah great I think um yeah coming back for our policy meeting with some more information would be great Perfect all right thank you that is all I have for the superintendent reports okay thanks okay that brings us down to Board

114of Education um any msba delegate report Keith uh nothing in particular right now I guess the U yeah there's nothing in particular right now I think and maybe it'll show up is there March 11th is the possible day where you go down to Jeff City maybe that's a public school day yeah I'm playing it's on the agenda okay perfect I am planning to go to that I don't know if anybody else is um it's possible Keith and I have gone several times um and it's been great to kind of hear what's happening in Jeff City I think it's important this year to be present and visible if we can't make it down there um just trying to stay up to date I know Amy and Matt can give us more information throughout this legislative kind

115of cycle um one thing they have at that that's that they have it's the advocacy day but they also have this studenta showcase thing where different schools set up little stands that's in the capital and you know different things that kids are doing at different schools it's kind of it's kind of a fun thing to look at uh maybe someday we could do that I was going to say we had Catalyst there Keith and I bumped into each other last year I had oh right not quite I was not quite at Brentwood yet I'd been named superintendent so uh but I we were there with our Catalyst students from leue Clayton and Brentwood um so yeah we were able to highlight them I will say advocacy um for public schools uh I don't want to

116say they don't listen to superintendent but there's an assumption that we have an ulterior motive so community members and board members uh it is wonderful we also remember have a brettwood Alum it's serving in the house uh with Ray Reid he is extraordinarily I um the Ed plus uh person Chris Gaines who's in charge of the Ed plus group here in St Louis uh knew that Ray went to brenwood within the first five minutes of meeting him and told me that that man is very proud of his Brentwood Roots so it's a a wonderful thing so you'll if you do if you are able to go I'm hoping to be able to go um it'll be great to stop by and and see him as well in his office he's he has opened his door

117to us multiple times and um sends me emails and texts to keep me inform of what's going on there so I'd like to do that usually none of them want to talk to me I guess there's something about my BS well I think Ray I will talk to you I think you're gonna have a friend he's a freshman a freshman member of the house so good cool that's great and then Mark is not here for an SSD update so that'll move us down to board committee updates I don't have anything on the finance and Facilities okay teaching and learning crickets okay I think met since so sorry my camera is not working so um yeah we haven't met since the last cour meeting okay uh student experience we will be scheduling our next meeting soon

118um in the next probably month or so that spring break kind of throws us off on meetings with parent teacher conferences and evenings so I know Community engagement is the same they're they're getting it scheduled right now yeah ton is yeah April so it has been yeah we're moving along um all right so and then upcoming events this is where we can tell Kate what we will be doing um um school board our candidate forum is March 3D 6:30 is it at the in the lecture hall yes okay so where our regular board meetings when we're not meeting on Zoom that is where the form will be it be great to have um our three candidates there and that'll be monitored by League of women's voters hope to get lots of the community there policy

119meeting that we've talked about we've got some additional policies we'll get to look over on the 4th advocacy day March 11th and then just our regular board business meetings starting after Spring Break um and then if anyone wants to go to the msba advocacy day just let Kate know and she can get us registered for that Kate do you want to know by a certain date um I it's open but um I guess maybe in the next couple of weeks just to make sure they can you know they have our names on the list and everything okay sounds great and senior citizens French on Earth Day great uh okay um that is it for our meeting tonight if we could get a motion to just adjourn we've already had our Clos session this evening so

120I move that we adjourn second okay um usually I just say roll call and we say yes and we're in Clos session but go ahead Kate do we need you to do that yeah mark ciso Ryan Dodson yes Ryan Flynn yes Keith ravenberg yes Katie Spa yes Lindsay Spencer yes Carrie trostel yes all right well thank you everyone for zooming in with us tonight um yeah I appreciate your flexibility tonight I don't think it's snowed since we've been on here so we could totally have been in person but thank you I appreciate let's hope it's this easy to call tomorrow morning so um I will hopefully uh see everybody in bretwood tomorrow absolutely can we thank Tony for setting us up now since he since it workson yes Tony was great good job Tony well

121done Tony thank you very much all right everyone have a great night and you too guys thank you by bye everyone bye