001say we get started. Start with our pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, liberty andice for all. I just need a motion to approve the agendas presented. Still got a motion by Bo. Seconded by Kelly. All in favor? 70 Amy. And then I just need a motion for the consent agenda. And if you need to abstain from anything, now it's time to do so. If you got any questions, now it's time to pull it out to get them answered. I did have a question on conflict of interest disclosure policy that came out. I didn't know if we needed to pull that out instead. It's kind of in the gratuitity section. the gifting certuitity section, it talks about a
002board established amount. So, I don't know if we've ever done that before. You want to move it down to new business? We make a motion to do that. Probably should because it'll be there and won't have anything to set it as a standard. So, I'll make the motion to pull that out and move that into your business. Second. Got a motion of a vote to pull D out. That should just take a second. Anything else? All right, I'll make a motion to approve the consent. So, we got a motion below. Second second by Derek. All in favor 70. Amy, moving on. Now, we got to reorganize. Okay. Well, there's your election results, the certified election results. Amy's got those. I'll read the election results. We have for school board helms Allison bond issue plus4 to
003pass. So levy increase we had um 467 and Okay. What's that? I just thank the community for stepping up and getting that pass so we can pay our teachers what they need to be paid. I think this huge statement from our community like, hey, we're we're behind you. So, I think it's awesome. I mean, I'm sure everybody would like to see both of them pass, but got to take a little bit with the sweep, I guess, as they say. So, thank you. Moving on. Now, we got a presentation for our outgoing board member, Ashley Ferrus. Thank you for serving. You've done a great job. Um I hate to see you go. Thank you. So you can come back. Okay. I'm going to go back. Oh, I'm sorry. That's all right. Killing me. All right. So
004Ashley's been on this for four years, which is hard to believe. Four years. Just seemed like she got down here to the end of the table like maybe a year or two ago. It was kind of in the middle of the pandemic, wasn't it? So, she came in a really good time to be on the board of education. Nothing really going on, no difficult problems, nothing really happening. Um, so I just appreciated that we had there was a time when I can remember Clint Bo and uh Carla Pedigrew and Paty and some of them going, "Who are we going to get to run for board? nobody's signing up and it was about these kind of times and so they started beating the bushes and trying to find somebody to come in and well who's actually
005cleans how do you spell clear terms that'd be really a good place to start I think we even misspelled it on the calendar once so so you know that was my fault that was E before I before he could figure it out but I've always appreciated that Ashley was always a good listener always had good input um a lot of difficult conversations going back to 2021 to to present and um you know you can't get anything done if you don't have good members of the community that step up and work on your board of education and provide input and be that representative body of what's going on in the community and what we need to know. So I just appreciated her insights. I appreciate the fact she served the whole time through and um we
006begged her a little bit to maybe go ahead and run again, but we had plenty of people running. So maybe it's a popular seat down here so we don't have to don't have to bag anymore. So people actually thank you for Thank you. and we'll put that check in the mail and we can make sure that check is for all those hours. All right, we need our new board members to come forward. We have to get you back in again. You have to say Yeah, you should should hold on. Here we go. Do we need to do that now? You probably should go ahead and accept the election results, right? Shouldn't they vote to accept their election results? That's fine. Yeah. Yeah. I think we should probably do that. Yeah. I'll make the motion. I'll
007make the motion to accept the election results as read by a motion by Bose, seconded by Derek. All in favor be 60 this time. Good catch, Kelly. So, now moving on. Now we got the new well one new one return of the United States. I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Missouri. Constitution of the state of Missouri. And I will faithfully discharge the duties. School and county of County. State of Missouri. State of Missouri. To the best of my ability to the best of my ability. All right. Welcome aboard, Brent. Thank you, sir. Bo, you're back again. Yep. Bowen's Bo is going for longest serving board member going on his year 10 starting with next year. Welcome to the job. That's a big check. We're gonna
008have to write you both. So, um, how much is zero plus zero? It's a lot of zeros. That's all I'm going to say. Here we go. So, we need to elect our board officers. So, here we go. I need nominations for president. or president 11 people. What did you say? Nominations for board president. Nomination is second. I nominate Bo Helms. I have one nomination for Bo Helms. Do I have a second? Second. Second. So So we got by Derek Second by Brand. Are there any other nominations for board president? Seeing none. Going once, going twice, three times. All those in favor of Bo Helms as board president say I. I. All those oppose say nay. Hearing none. 60 or 70. Do you vote for yourself on that board? I don't. I'm not voting for myself.
009Okay, there you go. 60. Come on, dude. It's okay. All right. Nominations for vice president. I nominate Derek Tuttle. Derek Tuttle. Do we have a second for Derek Tuttle? A second. We have a second. Any other nominations for board vice president? Hearing none. All those in favor of Derek Tuttle as board vice president say I. I. All those opposed say nay. Pass 6. Board secretary. Nominations for board secretary. I'll nominate Amy Sto. Amy Stove nominated for board secretary. Any other nominations? Or sorry, need a second. Second. Second by Derek Tuttle. All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed say nay. 60 treasurer. Oh, let me nominate Lisa Bix. Nominating Lisa Bixler. Do I have a second? Second. I'll be third then. Second and third. Just take everybody's vote by roll call. All those
010in favor, Lisa Bixler, board treasurer. I suppose nay. 960. Delegate. MSBA delegate. Now, I know a lot of people avoid this one, but it's actually good. Amanda, aren't you our MSBA delegate? You want to share anything about that before we all say we don't want to do it? I remember I volunteered last year because I didn't have a football player last year. So, but no, it was a very interesting event. I actually saw Brand there, talked to him for quite a while. Um, but I mean, I would encourage anybody to do it. I'd prefer not to do it again. I don't have to. They take turn. So, When was that conference? October fall. It's like a Thursday, Friday, Saturday. I only went Friday. So, a lot of good sessions, a lot of uh interaction with
011other board members. We put you up in a hotel, get to see the big city. It's still in Kansas City. Uh they got away from the lake. I know a lot of people have done that. We had a lot of shift go to mayor, which is still at the lake. We don't have to send anybody, do we? We don't have to send anybody, but there's somebody that wants to go. It's always a good connection with MSBA, which is also going to do your process for choosing the next superintendent as well. You don't have to stay. What's that? You don't have Yeah, I didn't. No, you don't have to stay down. Yeah. Yeah, you can choose the day you go. Any good. Kelly have a second for Kelly. Second. All those in favor say I. I.
012I. I didn't want you to have a chance to back out. 60. That's right. I was doing it quick. I was getting quick. Good. All right. Kelly and an alternate. Alternate. Anybody like to be the alternate on that? If Kelly can't go, I can do that. Do that. Go. Okay. Bo Helms. And second for Bo. Second. Second. All those in favor say I. I. 6. All right, I think that's all of them. We got it. Back to you, boss. New boss. You guys switch seats. Your turn. Yeah, we'll we'll we'll be we'll be fine this meeting. All right. Okay. So, we'll move into uh reports. You're up, Dr. Rob. I'm up. All right. Attended the West Central Massive Meeting today at UCM. Um, a little bit of a legislative update out there as well. I'm
013going to mix it in there with what came out on Monday. Open enrollment has passed the House. It's now in the Senate. This is the third, fourth, fifth time it's been over there. Seems like it's got a lot of momentum. Governor Kho wants this on his desk. Is the word around Jefferson City under that whole school choice banner. Um, we have a resolution that we passed as a board of education against open enrollment. That's been a few years ago. Um, and we stand with 255 schools out of the 518 that are saying we would not like to see this passed. That represents about 455,000 students in the state out of 879,000 in the state. So, I figured somebody might ask me. I said, you know, I need to look that up. It's close to a
014million, but so basically about half the school districts in the state are saying that they're opposed to open enrollment and some of the things it'll do. Some of the versions of that bill um would basically make about 3% of our student body up for grabs every year. 3% would be about 18 kids times that by about 7,000. So you're looking around close to $140,000 swing if we would lose that number of kids and say a bunch would want to go to Versailles or would want to go to California instead, but we might bring some in. You never know. You don't know how that eb and flow is going to work. One phrase that I did hear a while back is everybody thinks if they're for open enrollment, they think, well, it won't hurt me or
015it won't hurt my district. But you really don't know until it's implemented. And it kind of puts us in that whole competitive business model of can we draw kids or can't we and what choices do families have in the area and what are they going to want for their kids. It was one of the reasons why the multi-purpose building was important because you want to have good activities. You want them to be supported in your community. You don't want to be seen as a small small school that can't support um kids. The activities co-curriculars extracurriculars go hand inand with the academics that go on in the classroom. So, you want to have good services you offer. Funding. This one's been interesting since March. You know, we at one point we knew the governor was out
016there pretty actively saying, "Hey, we're going to freeze the state adequacy target. We're not going to fully fund the foundation formula and I don't care what anybody says." You had a little speech in the state of the state that went through the House side and that has come out of the house now and they are siding with the governor and they are not raising the state advocacy target. they're keeping it right where it is. That messes with our budget math a lot. Um, and that's recent. That's just this end of this past week. Um, so the House doesn't support it in their budget. I called um our senator Mike Berncoder. I'm going to say his name wrong. Um, and Willard Haley, who's on the House side, letting them both know that it should be fully
017funding the foundation formula. figures into how we're trying to do business and not trying to charge our local taxpayers um every bit of the gap that we need to make up to meet the new salary mandates. Um we've passed our levy and I let them know that. And from Mike on the uh Senate side, he said he called Amy today and Amy, what did our senator say? um said that the Senate was behind fully funding the formula, which is good news. I don't know what the House of Representatives do. Yep. So, they're going to fight it out a little bit on if they're going to actually honor the foundation formula. It's been around for about 20 years and actually fully funded. So, we're going to watch that and by about miday, we should know by
018about May 9th usually is when they have to have that up to the governor and then he has till about June 30th to actually decide if he's going to sign it or not. So, not funding or fully funding the foundation formula hurts us to the tune of about $200,000 that we thought we would be budgeting for next year. It's about $400 more per child ADA average daily attendance. So, this is an important few words we need to be saying if we're going to call and I've asked the teachers to do some calling. Um, even put a little video because I was kind of fired up about it. So, I said, "Hey, watch this little video to explain it to you." They should be our legislators be fully funding the foundation formula. They should be meeting
019their commitment to especially the rural districts which really kind of rely on that state funding formula. And you know that as soon as it started to benefit us, they wanted to put the brakes on. Well, it'd been frozen for a long time. And I even told our senator, I said, "Look," I said, "You can't keep putting these mandates on us." He said, "I agree." He said, "I think over here on the Senate we're going to do that. I'm gonna check. And then while I was gone to my meeting, he called Amy to follow up. So, I appreciated him doing that. But, um, that that may come out on our side. We'll see. So, that's good news to hear at least one of the houses in the general assembly wants to wants to work with us.
020So, I I do have a question. You said that the difference in being fully funded and the impact of this would be 200,000. Yes. What what amount were you using to figure that difference? It's about $400 per kid. So, it's uh 500 kids. $400 per 500. $400 difference per kid roughly. That's what they're Oh, did they give us an amount that they're looking Oh, yeah. Okay. I think that was where Yeah. Yeah. It comes out in the bulletin every year. Yeah. Yeah. What it's supposed to be that state amount or what it's supposed to go up to has been out there for a couple years now. In fact, even up until till March, Desi had put I got it right here in my folder, the finance memo, and said this is what it's supposed to
021go to. In fact, everybody's been figuring their budget going into next year, thinking, well, you know, if we can get a little bit of a levy increase, and we know that's that SAT is going up, then we should be fine. That's why you asked for 50 cents. That's why we asked for 50 cents. We didn't ask for a dollar or something crazy. Um, and you're doing your budget math and you're going, "Okay, everything's going along. This is going to happen." And then you get Governor Kho do a state of the state and say he's not going to do it. And that's what we saw at the uh the public forum over there. I showed that video. So if you those of you that were there, I think Dave liked that video with Governor Gio, didn't
022you? He did not. I did not like him. But but anyway, that's that's the the math that we get to play every year is more and more, especially through the pandemic, of just knowing what are they going to do. It's why the first time we ran the levy, we say up to a dollar because we really don't know what they're going to do. Are they going to fully fund the foundation formula or not? And so this this is the position we're in. But if you guys want to go into more depth with that, I did prepare just a kind of looking through where our budget is right now if you want to look at more depth of that when you're kind of making some decisions in a new business. But that's important and and it's
023been the talk of every meeting I've gone to and every webinar that I've sat in with our our our lobbyist, our state lobbyist. And you know, it remains to be seen how that comes out and how they reconcile between the House and the Senate and what the governor does, whether he signs it or sends it back or makes him go to another session or said, "No, that's just too much." because in his mind, you know, he's a he prides himself on being a private school kid and that his mom, single mom, put him through private school and he's very proud of that. He's trying to push $50 million toward private entities. And I've heard a good phrase from mayor um they said public money belongs in public schools. Why are we why are we doing
024this? So, it's a little bit of a pushpull going on up there and it's under that banner of school choice. Is it 60 6750? Is that the new rate? 6760 is our current rate. It's going up to 73 45 or 7315. I'm going to look at Was it 6,300 before? It was 6315 or something like that. They never fully funded that either, did they? No. I mean, sometimes they did, sometimes they did. Well, this year, this year was at 6760. They only told us last month that they were actually going to fully fund it. So we've been limping along through this year at about 6600 6650. Then finally they did what they call a supplemental. They said we we we guessed short on lottery proceeds. So look we're fully funding the foundation formula. They put
025out that proclamation. I sent that to you guys so you could see it that they were all grandstanding a little bit like hey look what we did you know. Well yeah that's just the current fiscal year what you promised us way back last year that you're actually following through with what you said you were going to do. This is the fun with school budgeting is that they tell you a number and then however the economy goes then they decide whether they can fully fund it or not. And you'll even see DESIE periodically and like they did this year short change you a little bit all year until they get to the point and say hey we're short a couple hundred million. What are you going to do state legislator? And then they pride themselves and
026say well we we fully funded the foundation formula. put another 75 million into this, you know, make to make sure we followed through with our promise that we made way back at this time period last year. It's going up to 73 73. I'll tell you exactly what it is cuz I pulled it. 7145. 7145, but I I do have some documents. If you guys want to look at it real fast, we could, but I did prepare them in case you want to get a little more in depth on that. I told you I sent you an email about a week or so ago showing you the new budgeting program that we have that kind of gives us better forecasts earlier. And it's one of the reasons I spent the last month and a half learning
027it is I didn't feel like and a lot of superintendents felt this way that we were using a a spreadsheet that goes through uh the former superintendent at Republic schools and he does probably he had probably had like 80 85 different school districts that utilize that and he maintained it really well. Um, but there's better software out there and I've got these tech guys and several districts are working with them now to create a u online software that you can access anywhere. I can access it right here and pull up and they get a very very clean version of where our budget is, what's there, what's not, what's predicted, what's not. And there are a lot of predictions right now because we're not at the point where we have the tax levy figured. We don't
028know our assessed valuation for next year. We won't set the tax levy till August. We haven't hired everyone yet that's going to be on hire. We don't know exactly where they're going to be on the salary schedule. So, there's a lot of whatifs and I don't know what um you all want to do with some facilities and maintenance. So, I got to push that into the budget as well, which Bob and I have been working on that piece as well. So there's a lot of flux that goes on this time of year. In fact, what have been kind of common practice for a lot of districts, including ours for a little bit, is to go and look at our current budget, what it is right now, and not knowing all of those things. We would
029run with the current budget and pass because we have to pass the budget by June 30th. We would go ahead and pass that budget, which as much as we knew, and then go into next year. And we haven't even set the tax rate yet. We don't set it till August. It's backwards. If it seems backwards to you, it's because it is. It is. And nobody would do their home budget like this, you know, on predictions. But this is what we're left with. This is what we have to predict. We also have to predict how many kids are coming in next year. You don't always know who's coming back, who's moving. I don't know. Ashley, you have anybody move in and out of the district? Just a little bit. See, so you don't know. Is kindergarten
030going to come in with 40? Are they going to come in with 55? You know, we don't know. But things like kindergarten roundup and things like that do help us and give us an indication. Um I know Jason was here one year when the freshman class walked in and that was the class that uh 72 and 72 walk in the door and we thought we were going to have like 4550, you know, and all of a sudden there's a little ground swell, you know, where did all these kids come from? And it's not easy to predict. I've talked to a lot of superintendents around the state and bigger districts, they'll try to look at birth rates and gather other it's never an easy prediction. You're you're just taking an estimate. So, when you start seeing
031that surge go, that was a little bit alarming for us. We like, boy, if every class goes that direction, we're going to be looking at a new elementary school and turning that into the junior high and high school down there and really start planning because where are all the kids coming from? There's not any new subdivision being built or anything. So, it didn't last. it kind of bubbled through and then we kind of went back to about normal. So there you go. Tip's been fairly stable on um number of students. Okay, questions for me? Questions? We'll go to administrators. Um, is there anything Ashley Jason is there anything you want to highlight from your reports? Uh, one thing I didn't get to add on there because it happened yesterday was parley team one state championship
032straight state championship team for yesterday. So you probably saw it. Dr. Robinson just mentioned our kindergarters are coming tomorrow. Is it 40ome? Um right now we have like 34 35 signed up for screening but that's there's usually others out there that you haven't found yet. So either we're doing a great job finding them in early childhood or it's going to be a big class. They're not even the co babies yet. No, but I think St. You said that out loud, but I was thinking Okay. Does anyone have any questions for the I think then that brings us into uh old business. So, we've got a contract uh in front of us for superintendent search for MSBA from MSBA. I have looked at this contract um and it is dated um for the 25 26 year.
033There's not really any sort of time frames. It's just the contract they sent to us. Nothing had to be signed at this time. It there's nothing that we we would need to necessarily commit to at this time. I you know I don't know what the benefits of doing it would be at this time other than to say that we've got something in place and I don't know necessarily what the detriment of doing it either would be. We talked we're not going to start search till in the fall. Yeah. October. John DS did call me guys and emailed me and I forwarded this to Craig at the time just to give you a little and they were asking for a signed contract to know they were on board to do your stuff. So I don't know
034what other conversations you may have had with them but I'm just relaying that they were asking for it. I think I you know I just think it's it's up to the board if they want to if you want to go ahead and go under contract with them now or give it a couple months. I mean I I don't know enough about these contracts to think that the price would be you know some they would resend their offer somehow try to renegotiate. I think it's just flat piece at least in the way it was presented when they came. I'm not supposed to go in and accept your contract cuz it's we got to do it sooner or later and just be one thing off the plate. my what is I'm trying to weigh the overall benefit
035of having it versus just doing it internally. Um I understand they're packaging some stuff they have some contacts things like that. Um but if a position's posted word of mouth goes a long way. I think the biggest problem I mean got to have an interview team of some sort whether whether that's two board members and the administrators or whoever that is you know I mean I just think it probably a screening service to you know yeah I mean I just think if we did it in house just like a great big like if something does go south you know which I don't think it ever would I think anybody who's going to be on here is going to responsible. I just thinking everybody here has a full-time job, you know, it's just Well, some of
036us have a full-time job. Um, just beneficial to everybody, but I mean that that was just my uh thoughts of just making sure that it was going to be beneficial, just spend money on it. Um I see a lot of positives to it where they will you know do the I mean anyone can do a background check and things like that but who's going to then the onus would be on us to get that done. So understand personally I think that you know you're if you're out there recruiting it would be helpful to have something like this out there. The only maybe reason to wait would be if we had somebody walk through the door, right, that we thought would be a great candidate and we would have saved the money otherwise. I don't know
037how that happens or the likelihood of that, but I mean that would be the only downside. I mean, do we can we post it on our website and say 425 26 school year and let it see what we can gather, you know, without cost. I mean, we've got our website. I don't know how many people look on it, but obviously we get somebody because we're, you know, hiring positions. Can we throw it out early and say, you know, for 25 26 year? We have that capability. we have talent and see if we yeah, you know, maybe we catch like Grant said, maybe we catch somebody or you said, you know, walk through and see what it does in a month. I wouldn't be opposed to that. That way it's out there. That's why I asked
038you all the last meeting. It's exactly what I asked. I wasn't paying attention. Obviously not, but that's exactly what I asked. I don't remember that. I mean, we tended had agreed on MSBA instead of mayor seemed to be a right a better organization, but I think I remember maybe I misunderstood, but I think just posting it out there. Um, like I I full I I really do believe that we should use NSBA. We get to the point where we're active recruiting. You know, we're we're uh in the fall and we're in the recruiting um real uh timeline of trying to get somebody to bring in. I think we need to use a service for that. I just don't know why we need to sign on right now. That's that's all I'm saying is we could
039go a couple months and have that out there. Um because I don't think it does us any good at this point. We're not hiring a superintendent right now. I don't think for 2026. You know what I mean? I mean, they said they wouldn't start till fall anyways because that's the prime season. That was what I was thinking. Yeah. decide in June, decide of July, whatever. I I have seen sometimes guys they they uh they will do like a pre-posting both mayor and MSBA will once they know that they have you guys locked in, they'll start putting it on the website so it puts it in the mind of people who are wanting to move or thinking about coming here. So, it already gets on the website for you. Um and and superintendents check that stuff
040a lot. So, it's it's your totally your preference. This is not my process, but I'm just kind of telling you what I've seen in the past. Um, they they start getting the word out. Um, if you're looking for a wide swath of candidates that you want to look at, um, I know Kelly brought up that when they were here the last time, you wanted to see all the applications. Um, you know, who who do you want to manage that? I mean, if you did it all on your own, your board secretary would probably be printing all the applications and everything for you. You'd have to have a process where you guys have some time to sit down and review those. It's you're not having you're going to be left to vet them all yourself. So,
041that's calling the This is what they did to me when they brought me here. They they called my boss. They called my references. They go through all those people. Um they generally know those school boards that those people are serving on. and the one that I served on. They they do have a lot of inside knowledge about candidates both internal and external. Um they set up a fair process for you so you're treating everybody equitably and it, you know, it's your process. If you guys want to run it, it's all yours, you know, to to decide. I'm just kind of telling you what they do for for you. Um and either one of those groups can do a good job for you. You guys think you guys want to adopt this now or wait? I
042say we adopt it. That's my opinion. I mean, it doesn't cost anymore to do it now or do it in the fall. So, just be one thing off our plate. That a motion? I will. I make a motion we adopt or we accept the MSBA contract for super next superintendent search. Second. Okay. All in favor? I think that's seven. All right. So, moving on. We've got a discussion over uh teacher salary. Wanted to talk about the salary schedule again. Um I think Dr. Rob has talked about some of the the issues we're we're dealing with with funding. We also have a levy that was passed as well to speak about. So, you know, we've got the schedule in front of us. What how do you guys want to approach this at this point. I guess
043the one question I had if was um the grant Mhm. if we move forward with salaries, can we still get the grant? No. Okay. Not with that recommended. No. Is the grant because you'll be you'll be 40 or above then. Okay. Is the grant available this year? Yes, as far as I know. It hasn't been passed yet, but it's in the House's version of legislation right now. Throw a 50-50 dice. It could could be there. Could not. I don't know. Go walk around those halls and see what people are telling you. So, I got that update with the the lobbyist every every Monday. Sometimes they throw us in there. Well, I I can give you guys a handout that I think would help you if you're wanting some help with this decision and just kind
044of show you where you are budget wise. This new program does a lot of things we didn't have before. Do you guys want some more information? I think uh it's imperative that we kind of listen. I wasn't on the board last meeting, but I listened to it. I was here. Um, though there's a lot of discussion about moving forward then, which I know Craig had voted, I believe, to move forward then. Um, and everyone else said, "Let's let the community decide what they want to do." Um, and the community decided to support the tax levy. So, we need to support our teachers based on what the community did. If we would have done it last time, we would have been looking at uh the deficit spend for sure. Uh no matter what, uh this time
045we we at least know that we have the funding for the salary portion of it uh done and the community responded to what we asked for and I think we need to just listen to the community, support our teachers. Either way, the teachers need to be paid. Um I think we all agree with that. Um, so that's I just that's that's my thoughts on it is I really feel like the community said, "Hey, yes, we really support this and uh we want you to move forward with it because it was kind of stated we would readress this here in April and you know move forward with it if it if the community supported us, we take care of that." not whether there needs to be other adjustments past that to help with any potential budget
046deficits. Uh we can address that, but I mean I think we've known about the budget potential budget deficits since Mike Kho's speech in January. So we've already known that was lingering. So the only thing we do know for sure is that the tax levy passed for the teachers. So we need to take care of that part of business. Yeah. I mean, it is a strange argument to say we're going to put this in in front of the I mean, we're we're going to try to vote on this before a levy gets passed. And now the levy gets passed pull back and not vote on it. weird pull out the best way to word that. I I think the the only way for us to get the grant is if we do nothing really. Well, we
047can't do nothing. Yeah. I mean, we can't go ask our like Brand said, we can't ask our constituents for this and not do nothing, you know. We have Now this gets us caught up, right? Your proposal the 238732 increase, correct? Caught up. What do you mean? Well, like you said before, we were three years, four years not given a raise. Is that right? Yes. So it'll get it'll get those people who are at 40 off that. So next year in the spring, we would go back to the salary schedule steps over and down. That would be the increases that they would have. It'll be at least $500 per correct. And so what do you think estimated cost on you, you know, I mean on running it? Yeah. Well, if you have about 55 teachers times
048$500 a piece, so yeah, I'm just asking that because you know, we're hoping to generate $300,000. So it's still going to cover that. Okay. Step increase. I really need to hand this to you guys because you'll get a real clear picture because you're asking the kind of questions this answers. Okay? So, I mean, if you're not one to look at it, tell me. But I prepped it for you. Okay? Because I prepped it for you so you'll know because I don't want you to go in blind. I want you to see it because our there's a lot of flux right now. And I'm going to walk you through each sheet. And it's easy to look at because this new program helps you understand this instead of me just throwing numbers around all of us trying
049to figure it in our heads. I don't understand. Okay. So, we talked about these limitations. Kind of look through those. This is what we don't know right now. Did you get one of those? Okay. This is what you don't know right now. Okay. We haven't budgeted for facilities maintenance and Bob and I have been walking around kind of picking up all those jobs. So, there's something we need to think about. Now, I'm going to give you a little homework and stay with me, Kelly, for a minute. Just stay on page one. We haven't approved salaries for our support staff. Haven't considered any of that yet. So, whatever you decide to do there, we don't do the know the new assessed valuation from our three counties. Okay, that won't come till July. Then, we set the
050tax levy in August. We don't know what the budget will finally come out of the House and Senate for them to sign. So, that's your SAT part. We're not sure about our enrollment. We are seeing a downward trend which can affect our our ad ADA and that funding through the formula. They appear to pass that open enrollment bill. We talked about that. That shouldn't affect us next year. I checked on that. It would not apply to 2526, but it could apply to the next years. And we haven't completed hiring everybody yet and the salary schedule. So those things are not known. That's where we're sitting right now. Flip the page. There's three scenarios here that I want you to look at. So, if the levy passed, and it did, this is scenario one. So, that's
051a good thing. We've got the 50 cents and we get full funding of this SAT. This is our best possible scenario. So, the revenue line at the top, that's how much money we could predictably bring in. 8.3 million. All right. Versus the expense at 8 million. All right. So, it's showing we're at the bottom line $351,000 to the good. Well, that sounds great, right? But that's the old salary schedule. And so, if we think about our new salary schedule costing us about a quarter million, we're in the zone. Looks like we're still about 100,000 to the good. That's if state adequacy target comes through. That's the thing that's in flux right now. Everybody got that one? That's our best case scenario. You flip the next one. So, we passed the levy and then it gets
052blue. It's frozen. All right. Your top line is the revenue. That's 8.1 million. Your expense is the second line at 8 million. So, you're about 115 to the good. So, let's just say it stays frozen. That that could be pretty likely or maybe we get a little bit. I didn't put that scenario in here. So, there it is. We're using the old salary schedule again. So, we spend about a quarter million. I just kind of rounded those numbers a little bit. So, we're negative 135 deficit spending. Knowing we're doing that, that's not terrible. That's not a terrible position to be in. We might find some ways to cut other places. We might have a few more kids walk in the door. There's a lot of things that could happen there, but we had deficits spent
053before by $100,000 and it worked out just fine because we didn't spend everything we thought we were going to spend. So, that's not a terrible position. And this is this is kind of probably where we are right now. Now flip it. This we're no longer here. No levy, no full funding. And you can see how that number goes. It was negative 178 without changing the salary schedule. If we to change the salary schedule would have been another quarter million down. Okay. So that that explains it. So we're here's where we're estimating. There's 2425. You can see all those figures that go into where we're getting money. Now, what kind of keeps me up a little bit as I try to predict these numbers, you go to ADA, which figures into our formula. Okay, 24 25
054were predicted to be about 500. I went ahead and went with 500. Summer school was actually 26.6 last year. I'm going to say we're going to make 25. There's our September membership, I'm going to say we're going to stay about the same. So, these are all about the same. these numbers stay about the same, then that's the prediction that we'll get about 2.9 million in state revenue. There's a new calculation going in. Weighted average membership, which is the formula's not on there, but it's a little more complicated, given some people some fits, but we've got it right. Weighted average membership. Now they're taking 10% of your membership, just kids who are enrolled, and figuring it into the new weighted average daily attendance. So weighted average daily attendance all also takes into account your special education.
055It takes your limited English proficiency kid, your free and reduced lunch count, all those things where the the state will say you need more funding to be able to educate those students. Flip it one more time and you go with the estimate of our local levy. So our local levy right now, this is this year's numbers. That's not next year's numbers because you're going to set them in August. Right now the state says we could levy 296. See that teacher one? That's the good one. See it says 0.5. That's where that 50 cents is going. And that's where we'll show the entire town, hey, you passed the levy. That's where it's going. We're paying people out of there. We still have to transfer money over from operating to be able to pay teachers because that's
056the fund we pay them out of. Our assessed valuation was right around 59 I58. I don't have it in my head, but it's right at 59. I said we went up just a little bit and that's been pretty consistent. We have not really been going up a lot on our assessed valuation. So, if we collect about 98% of what we're supposed to with the delinquent revenue, you can see what those revenues come out to. So that gives you an idea that a lot of what we do right now is predicted. And here's our current budget outlook. You can see it. Flip it. I wouldn't count this as our final outcome for a fund balance for next year. This is 2526 because one, it's using the old salary schedule to give you these pie charts. And
057we don't have those financial pieces that I listed on page one figured out yet. The fund balance will go down with a passage of the new salary schedule. So you pass it right now, it'll go down about almost 4% from what this number says based on the current numbers we know. Based on the current numbers we know. So the good thing is is we have a nice healthy fund balance. But as you walked through this, you're realizing there's a lot of variables in here. If I'm not comfortable right now and I want to wait till June, then wait till June. If you want to go ahead and go with it, I think we'll be fine. I don't think we're going to get below 30%. I think we'll be in the 30s. It's just I don't
058know if we'll be below 34 or we'll be right around 34 going into next year. Count Fisher money, right? No, it does not. It does not. I had to pull that out of there. Good point. Yeah, because it that's that's cordoned off money that you you can't count count into all that. But there you go. And it also gives you a nice breakdown which is easy to get to to see where is your money actually going. Now a lot of times people say well you know in some districts 70% go to certified salaries. I think that's always interesting and and salaries in general. You look at your benefits you add up the benefits. You add up um the non-certified salaries and then don't forget we have a lot of contracted services. So in larger districts
059they're hiring their own people. So yeah, you can get to 70% of your budget very easily is chewed up by um benefits. That's health health insurance. That's everything else. So I try to make it real simple. I don't know if that helps or if that just confuses you. I tried to keep it real simple moving forward. Can I ask you an open enrollment question? Yes, sir. So if if we have 3% of those children decide to go wherever, will we still collect that ADA on those kids and then have to pay tuition to where they go or No. No. The kids that come to us, we would get the SAT, we can get the ADA on them. So if they they'd be like 16 kids go to sales. For sales gets the money. I guess
060their Moses goes with them. So that for that way they get their money. Correct. Okay. And and there are some caveats in those bills and talking about how um a district would decide to accept or not participate one or the other. And then there's a timeline they've talked about different times on on the where parents need to notify the home district, notify the district they want to come to. There's an acceptance piece on whether you want to take them or not. But those things are in flux right now and just exactly what they're going to look like. And there's probably been Kelly four or five different versions that I've heard and now they're all in a big swirl of what exactly are they? Yeah, because our ADA may be quite a bit lower than California
061just cities. So if they're going to collect their data or if we get their kids guess it's a wash. I don't know. Just it's interesting how that works. Wasn't there a question in on that about transportation? Who would be liable for transportation of those children? That's kind of going back and forth as well. Um, I haven't seen a definite on we would be responsible or somebody else would be responsible. I heard one where um the parents are responsible to get them here, but then if they're students with special needs, we might be responsible. I don't think that's worked out yet. Okay. Yeah. I had one other question on the salary schedule. the option salary schedule with it's got the current SK schedule for this year and it's got yes two categories to the far left
062on a different oh no I haven't so it's got subsert BS subsert CAC and then BSERT yes when you go to the new recommend one they're gone those are gone yep so all teachers fall into that BSERT correct okay that was just one of my questions um that was a clarification that a lot of superintendents have asked about. Can we pay them under if if a person is occupying a teaching position then you can count them as a teacher and you can pay them on your salary schedule as a teacher. The the key is that they need at least a subserve and then are they serving as a history teacher? Are they serving as a PE teacher? Do you have them in the position? Are you calling them a teacher? Even if they're working on
063their certification, doesn't matter. They'll count them as a teacher and you'll get because what happens is there's an audit that gets done. Gary, your wife, has to make sure all the teachers are tied to the hours that kids are in front of a kid. Kids are in front of a teacher and that's how we get that money from the state to actually show that little Derek was in PE class with Mr. PFORD and it was for this amount of time and she's got everybody being counted and sending it up to Desessie and turning that report in. It's a big deal. Yeah. So, we have to have them subcertified or they come back and give us a report and say, "Hey, these people aren't don't have any kind of certification. They're not coming up. You can't
064claim these hours for ADA." So, it's a fun report. I just noticed that columns were different. So, I want a clarification. Yep. One of my questions is like all these limitations we didn't know about last month, but it was recommended for us to go ahead and approve it. So, why are we want to wait? I mean, like, why are we recommending June now? Well, you guys were the ones that tabled it. Tabled it this month. Correct. You did. And so, in my mind, you were telling me you wanted all the information you could have so you can make the best decision. So, I gave you all that information so you knew. I appreciate that. I just think most of us were wanting to see how the levy turned out, which is why we table it.
065And that's fine. I have changed my opinion on whether you should approve it or not. Yeah, the way I look at this schedule, I'm not sure there's really any in between, you know? I mean, there's no reason to I mean, it's either move it up to this or do nothing. Um, that's the only option unless I'm missing something. Now, we talked about a stipen, but that was to get everything to 40 and give them Yeah. 500 or thousand dollar stipen, but you're still Yeah. You're still not gaining. I mean, the teachers are gaining something, but they're not gaining what they're worth. And we That's why we waited on our vote, which we got. We got Thank you. Yes. Right. So, we have this as a discussion topic. So, I think that um obviously we could
066do a couple different things. We can wait or we can go ahead and seek a motion to approve the salary schedule that's proposed. Now, I make a motion to approve the salary schedule. Now, you got a motion by Brand. I think she can have it. Second by Right. All in favor 70. Thank you voters. Unfair to make the teachers wait till June whenever we know we got what we just out of curiosity what we got these limitations on this page. Yeah. So what's everybody's plan to address these Just food for thought. Anyways, move on. No, I mean I think that you've got obviously the we need to sit down and do another study session on facilities and the maintenance. Dr. Rob was working on some of the stuff. Kelly and I were talking the other
067day about some of the storage issues. We've got some of that stuff outside up there by the building, the old bag building. Mark Hampton should have probably said that but somebody made a recommendation that uh you know we ought to take a look at that again see there's what sort of options and I think that was a good recommendation about container boxes. Yeah. Yeah. Especially for the football storage. The football storage issue is that's really dangerous out there. So, um, we should I ask a friend of mine about for sales with their surplus and they just have an auctioneer come in on a Saturday morning from 9 to 11 and they sell it and what sells sells and what doesn't recycled or trash. Maybe something we need to We've got that old building up there
068is full. That's what I'm saying. I mean, one that I went to for sales had kitchen equipment. We have desk and filing cabinets and 30% of the stuff sold and it didn't sell for much but it did sell for something and it gone. They had a building it for sale. That's what they did. It was taking up bag space so they got rid of it. Maybe we just Yeah, I swear I saw a copy machine in there. When I go by probably I think Dr. Rob, we were talking the other day about that and was going to have some more summer help start working that out. But I think what they for sales did just pulled it outside and if it sold it sold and if it didn't talk to Bobby Clutter or whoever collects
069junk and then you may have to have a transition. That would be a good first step is I mean because I'm not sure how you could really assess the building from a structural integrity perspective what you can do with it until you get to and they and Bob need space up there. I mean, there may be some student desks that you don't want to get rid of, but then there's computer carts from CO that we're not using a whole pile of weights and we don't need it there. It's when we're limited on storage as it is, correct? And it just may take some manpower and and getting some young kiddos up there. I know coach D's awesome about getting his kids to come and if we can get them to line it up talk to
070Chad Murphy or Steve Dubert or somebody and say hey would you come sell this and you don't really have to make a list but for sales just makes a list of surplus stuff puts in the paper it's 9:00 sells or doesn't sell and you go on way to get rid of a lot of it but you really need Bob there because there's things that doesn't need to be in the sale and it would sure help with space and like the stuff around the back too. It's just somebody will buy it for junk or they won't or you just scrap it out and get rid of it. Then you may say you make 2500 $3,000. You buy two container boxes if you still want but you're also going to open up 2,000 square foot of storage
071decent storage maybe. It's not that's one issue. I mean that's one thing we probably do. That's something we need to do anyway is tell I sent you the current facilities list, the current draft with your email right now. I don't think you need to get into discussion yet. I think you need to look at it. Take some time for the next meeting. Um there's some links there. There's some um bids there. There's some estimates. Bob and I have been working on it. Um we do have several students that we'll put up on in May that have contacted Bob and I. and they're kind of those hefty boys that like to work. So, they will be that is one of the first things we're going to do when school ends is start pulling that stuff out.
072If you guys want to do what Kelly suggestion, which is pull it all out and have an auctioneer there that day, that works fine for me because it makes it easier. Um, if you're going to do that, have a dumpster there that way without handling it twice. Believe it or not, we filled two of those things up just a few years ago and I don't know how it gets keeps getting full, but it does. Um, but yeah, we can put that out there and we can go that that's the direction Bob and I have talked about going. So, okay, to get it and even the backside as well, which just seems to we're collecting other people in the neighborhoods jump, I think, is what's happening. It's not just ours. That's what Bob told me. It
073would be good to know that a place is feasible have secure storage. We can actually do whatever. Okay. and eventually maybe have to do a little work to the building to help with the water on the back side to keep it out of the plasticality. Nice. that one, right? I think on the west side, don't you think it's the dry because he keeps laying on the ground, but it may be something too, Dr. Rob 3MT could help you with too. Who's that? 3MT whenever they're in town. Yeah. I don't know what their schedule date is. You don't know. It's the end of my sister. It's the end of June. End of June. Definitely. If you want to do some touchup or some Yeah, you did have a couple containers you wanted to paint, they could
074do that or unload those old sheds into the building, whatever. Kids are willing. Maybe we can look at that information and kind of push this off to the May meeting kind of that and that's in progress. So, I'm still working on it. Bob and I are still both working on that one. All right. Very good. Um, we had a request for discussion about FBA and the business teaching position. Eric, you wanted to talk? Yeah. I just uh I want to touch base on it. Um, you know, like Jason said, I seen it on Facebook, you know, FBLA for the third year in a row, they're probably team one state. And that just kind of brought to my attention that the program is doing great. And my worry, and this might be more a question thrown
075out, are we going to hurt is FBLA going to strive as well without a ded, you know, that dedicated teacher like Miss Fischer was? you know, I want to make sure, you know, now, and I'm not looking to keep throwing money at everything, but, you know, will FBLA be able to succeed as well without a, you know, with a dedicated teacher? You know, I don't want to see another program suffer. Which classes do they work on? FBA stuff and just the business classes. Yeah, if you look at that doc shared doc the business classes that are listing there like tech one and tech two they're so they give caution time to work on that without even if this went this direction. So and you still get your computer out of class. Yeah. Look at schedule
076for business teacher this year classes cut. So is graphic arts when they work on journalism stuff. Yes, that's your book. Okay. We did a yearbook that has a done a really good job with it for sure. here tonight by chance, but see, but he was obviously last year heavily involved with contest because this fisher was out for contest [Music] prep last year. He stayed in this year contest and he's done it before. Um, I think you do a great job with it for sure. Um, you know, I think sometimes with one person doing your book and FBA, I think that might have actually taken away from both are big projects. So, I will say it did make me nervous too whenever we first had this discussion, but seeing the breakdown of it definitely makes me
077feel better because you're keeping the classes that um that's what I was afraid of. They were going to lose out on some of the classes that they could have been offered. So I will say it makes me feel a lot better seeing that met with both and you know both are definitely excited about take on SP really excited she's at the NHS induction taking pictures that she's really excited you know she's bringing new ideas that she's brought from other schools she's excited about it um I think it was just opportunity with having Poland and Bron both here that we were able to do it whether it last two years, one year, 10 years. But I definitely think giving them both more responsibility for both of those teachers is a good thing because they're both good
078teachers. Um, both lead more to do. nobody ever wants to do. But they're both good people to lead and both do a good job at it. Well, I wasn't cutting, you know, the two other teachers. I just was worried, you know, was it going to spread right too thin? And from the outside looking in, you think, oh, you got rid of person. How did you absorb it? Well, also, don't publish like, you know, the fact that both of both had some classes that had extremely low numbers. So we were able to switch from a 10 to a seven which you didn't know what was going to happen with numbers of classes but whenever kids lost the opportunities to take as many electives core classes stayed full and some of the elective classes dried up. So
079that's kind of how we were able to cut with attrition. My last one year my last five my last you don't know it takes both of them to do it. But when you've had a teacher here for 20 years who has done the job, it's just nerve-wracking hearing somebody else taking it over. Not saying you guys won't do fantastic. I believe I mean even with a new person, you worry like what if it's not the same. Even if you have one person doing all of it, it's like, well, that's big shoes to fill. So when you have somebody leaving that has had that much success and done such a good job with everything she's done, it's going to be hard to fill her shoes no matter who you are, whether you know you're doing three
080of three of the six classes or if you're doing all six of them. So, well, and they're still going to get their life skills. That was the big Yeah, same here. Yeah, that's a good life skills class. Majority of your kiddos that graduate are going to go into some type of business or tracking cards. Both both programs have a lot of good life skills, selling ads for your book or business side of things done with the t-shirt shop. So, both are great. will say them selling ads for yearbooks. That is a struggle for some when they walk in the bank. I'm like, "Use your words. Let's hear your spiel." So, my kid better. Yeah. I just I feel better. I just needed a little clarification. And that helped putting that schedule out there so we
081could see you could tell us that they're going to do it. It's like good thing to block. you would have been able to thank you. Yes. Thank you. Again, good clarification, Dr. Rob. Was that salary for that position? Was that factored into these totals? Salary? Yes, it was not factored in. It had already been pulled out. You ready to move to new business? All right. So, we've got a first reading of a whole bunch of policies. Um, so I I think we'll come back next month and talk a little bit more about those if we need to. So, everyone's okay. We'll move on to B, which is approval of a bid to recode the gym for us. That's Lubbert who's done it just about every well every year I've been here and we need to
082get on his schedule um to make sure it's a yearly thing. Sometimes it's an every six month thing depending on how much wear. Am I right on that Jason? We've done it in December before too. We have there's other schools that have been lucky had to this year teaching school day which helps protect it that dirt on it just stays on it slate quick. When do we schedule to do this? It's usually in the summer after we're away from it. Dead week is a good time. I was gonna say, is there any way we can get in? It's usually right. It's usually right before that week. This year I talked to I talked to and he said well he said because I was asking some questions about sports a lot they don't have non athletic
083shoes but um he's like this the zoo thing is that volleyball wants it slick so they can slide around they don't get traction and basketball wants it tacky so they do have traction. So after talking to him, he's actually looking at putting on our elementary gym at one time and our high school gym after volleyball. Um so then you actually would have an extra portion of the year that would be tackier. Volleyball wouldn't be tackier. You have our break there in October where he said you come in and do it ready to go um for that next Monday. So just a couple days off of it. Yeah. Because waterbased, not well. He said 48 hours have light traffic like if you had a practice but not fully gym, but I mean it is what it
084is. It's got to be done, right? So if it's two days or if it's 10 days, it doesn't matter. You're not in the gym. Go to the city park. I mean that's I mean I mean that's just the way it is. It has to be done. All right. We'll seek a a motion. I make a motion to accept Lubbert's bid for 6300 to do both chair floors. All right. Motion by Gregs. We got a second. Second all 70. I got a quick question. So recent just put a new base on it. Isn't there something else like where we have to where it's a more evasive? Uh that's yeah we did that what three years ago and we sanded it down. Whenever you get a brand new recommend after that they recommend you have to sand
085it all the way down. Okay. So we're we're set on saying we're down for I mean they say 15 so probably 20 actually do it and we do have some periodic repairs and board replacements that happen depending on how things wear. That's been pretty common over the years. I'm surprised we didn't have any this time but they may they may find a few that need to be replaced. I'm just curious. I don't know nothing about a basketball floor besides you run on it. I just know what they really deep scrub it. They kind of fluff it slash sand it a little bit and they put a top coat on it. Since we're talking about gyms, just a quick question on the um scoreboards. Are you putting the old one in the elementary gym from the
086old ones right now stored up on the hill I told up there because of uh not knowing the bottom was going to pass. We have two scoreboards. building. It'd be nice to see that one get put up in the elementary just so they don't have to use that tabletop. That old school board. I mean, the tabletop thing worked great for a year. It did work good for a year because it was several thousand to fix the one gym. Yeah. So, so that's in the plan. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, um, we had moved letter D out of the consent agenda. So, we'll put that down in the new business on guesses C. So this is what if you guys open that up um on page two there's a section called gifts and gratuitities and it
087say it says that basically um we're prohibited from accepting gifts or gratuitities in excess of the amount established by the board by the board. Um so the problem with the policy obviously is we don't have an amount established by the board. So, I didn't know um how you all wanted to handle that, what amount would be appropriate because I have no idea. I I don't get any gifts. I don't get any. So, that means what's that? When I do, you got sweatshirts the last two years. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. So, I can tell you we have this pop. I don't I don't want to say the amount, but we have this policy at work acceptable, but I would imagine we'd want to put like for that just so that if anyone were to question that, we
088got a sweatshirt that it fell below whatever amount. But it wouldn't like if we had to go to the board training, that would not be any part of it like hotel room and a $15 bill request or anything like that. That would not be a part of it. No, that would not. It just it's it's we can't accept policy. We can't adopt a policy that is incomplete. That's my only thing is let's go ahead and put a number in there and um the $100 limit or something like that since we get sweatshirts or something. Put $100 on it. cover cover a coat or jacket or whatever we usually end up getting. We may need to have Dr. Rob see if that's even a common thing with MBA. If there is this would be per year.
089I would assume or per your term. I mean like how generally I would think it would be done annually. Okay, that would be and usually it's a I don't know. I'm just speaking on what I know, but I don't know what they do at school with schools, but it's a per vendor per amount annually. You know, you don't usually don't get anything from anybody, but right. Um, would this be better to put to to look into see what other schools do? It should align. I know like when we do stuff for schools, like if we're going to, you know, for work take out a superintendent for lunch has to be under $25. Can't do more. That's very I think it should match that. I think it makes sense. Could we maybe just um table this
090and do a little the other ones next month? Yeah. and just push it to next month and see maybe they don't need to set up but you know I understand what you're saying but MSBA does for how many districts the same policy that everybody adopts but anybody else alters that policy be interesting to know what they do or if it's not even a concern it's just weird that they put a policy out there that says you have to adopt a mountain there's no amount it's it's whatever the board said so that's that's why all right So that would be the question by the board. That would be the only thing in question. Take that part out or tell us amount recommend put in there. Right. Strike it. Yeah. I'll move we table that till next
091month so we can find out some more information. I got a motion by David. Second. I get it for you. All in favor? That's 70. David. Yes, it was. And all right, Mr. Tuttle, I make a motion to move us in executive session on the points of 610.021 610.021 13 3 and 13 uh including Jason C. Pepper, Bridget Besian, Nancy Thomas, Ashley Pedigrew, and Terry Robinson. All right. Much by Derek by Kelly. All in favor? Kelly? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I said I don't know. Yeah.