001June 8th. We're going to go ahead and call the meeting to order. Being that all board members are seated, a quorum has been determined. Uh board members, take a look at the agenda and let me know if you have any amendments or if you have a motion for approval. >> Make a motion to approve. Motion by Mr. Beck, second by Mr. Johnson. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor indicate by saying I. >> I. Those opposed, nay. Eyes have it. The agenda is approved. Uh, superintendent updates with Dr. Swan. >> We're on summer break. It's okay. >> You usually talk on be happy to give my updates up here. Uh, Madam Chair, members of the board, good to see everyone. Um, I know a couple of you have gotten back from vacation after
002a long, um, school year. So, thank you guys for the support throughout this school year. Um, it's it's I think you'll see later on in this meeting, uh, as well as later down the road over the summer how we ended successfully academically, uh, and then just a lot of success that we have as a school system to celebrate. Um so all right first like to start many of you had the opportunity to attend Special Olympics with us. It was great to be part of that event. It was hosted over two days uh at Patton High School. We had our elementary events one afternoon and then the the secondary were adults uh the second day. Uh Miss Grall and her staff worked tirelessly over that event. Uh it's great to see our community come together on
003that uh very special day. What I like to highlight as well, we have a lot of our middle school students uh and our high school students that participate as well and help our students throughout that process as well throughout the day. Uh they they have buddies that they get to work with throughout the day. Also, books on break. Uh picture you'll see here is Glenn Alpine and Mountain View. Uh we talked about this at our leadership uh meeting we had here this morning at 9ine. Take home books for summer reading. So, what that involves is every student from those schools were able to go in and select five books to take home for their summer uh reading. Uh and what was the highlight of my day when I was at Mountain View when they were
004collecting their books, a lot of the students said, "So, we bring these back in August." um because they don't have libraries at home. They don't have a a a custom shelf that a lot of our our our students do. Our our our own children and our grandchildren have libraries at home. So these students, they got to keep five books and build their own library. Um so also we're partnering with Scholastic over this summer. Uh students that are participating in our summer um summer program. We have over f nearly 450 Dr. Wilson's stuck in traffic still. I see. Um we have nearly 450 students participating in our summer um summer school. So they'll walk home with five books or I'm sorry 10 books from Scholastic as well uh of their choosing. So there again very important
005for our young students to begin building their own personal libraries at home. So we're we're just great community partners that we have. Also, this past month, we were able to recognize Salem's Laura Horton. Uh, and we'll recognize her at our first August meeting as well for outstanding elementary mathematics educator from North Carolina Council of Teacher of Mathematics. So, her peers across the state uh selected Miss Laura Horton as the outstanding elementary math teacher of the year. So, we we surprised Miss Horton. It was the last week of school. I believe it was after testing. We went over and surprised her during an assembly. uh the the it was nice to be in front of a lot of parents that that know her and recognize her to for her to receive that award. Also, Freedom JRTC
006flags at Burke Memorial Park, our JRTC students uh helped um the um American Legion, VFW, um different entities go plant flags at uh Burke Memorial Park. So, just our students again helping out in the community. So, if you've never been to Burke Memorial Park for Memorial Day, I encourage you to go. It's a beautiful site um to see those flags. Uh and then they also do an activity at Christmas time where they light up the the Burke Memorial Park as well. So, proud of our Freedom High School JRTC students. Also, our Freedom Chamber singers. We just received word um our uh that we'll be singing at North Carolina Music Educator Association in November of 26. So that'll be a great accomplishment um for our Freedom Chamber singers. They do a phenomenal job under the direction
007um of our chorus teacher at Freedom High School. Also, we just finished up High Country STEM for our principles and our teacher leaders. Uh as you'll see in this picture, that was just last week. Um some of our high-flying teachers, our educators, our administrators were part of High Country STEM. As you recall, Mr. Mr. Bill Daget will be working with Burke County Public Schools over the next two years uh to to facilitate what that looks like. And and as we've said before, this goes very well with our um balanced instruction initiative. Um and we are continuing to pave the way in balanced instruction across the state of North Carolina. We have another interview set up with a gentleman from uh the state uh state delegates that reports on a lot of information that's happening in
008Raleigh. Uh he just called me this afternoon. will be setting up a meeting with him this week and his team and our team uh to highlight what we're doing and and what we feel has been successful with balanced instruction this year. We'll also be working on a survey with balanced instruction for the end of the year um for our parents and our educators and our teachers um to find out what worked. As you know, we did a survey back in January with about a thousand respondents uh had some very successful outcomes with that. So after we kind of do the correlation between Burke County Public School testing, where we are, where we were, the growth that we've made, the academic gains, and kind of pin down that correlation with that. Mr. Johnson, did you have
009a question? >> You answered it. >> Pardon me. Oh, okay. >> Um, also senior walks. This is something that we started probably 10 years ago in Burke County Public Schools. It is a great opportunity for our graduating seniors to walk amongst the halls of their elementary schools that they started at. So, it's a great opportunity for all four uh every single one of our high schools get to participate. Hallebertton, Burke Middle College, and our four traditional schools can go to their elementary schools and participate with that. Uh they do a lot of activities. They line the halls. They make posters. It's just a great atmosphere to be part of that day. So, class of 2026, thank you board members for showing up uh for our graduations. Favorite time of the year. It's it's exciting. It's
010stressful. It's busy. It's hot, but it's well worth every minute that we put together. And I hope you had an opportunity to read the the letter that I had written to our graduates. Um, all the the letters I try to change them up every year and they they it it gets funner and funner every year, more exciting for me to try to incorporate different levels of experience and and different languages that we've learned throughout the year working with our students. So, it was a great opportunity. All right, Hallebertton updates. So, here again, just wanted to provide you guys an update. So, right now our team is going through Halle or the the wing of Drawn High School to update. Um, so right now they're going in putting a fresh coat of paint on the walls.
011Uh, they'll be working. They're Dr. Akert is meeting with the building inspector, the fire marshall this week. A couple of the classrooms are going to be made into office areas for the administrator down there. School counseling. Uh, cameras are getting installed. A new bell system will be installed down there as well. As I mentioned before, the we are going to possibly have to add some more pavement onto the drive for the buses, but after we had Prof uh the our engineer go down and look at that, we don't have to add any more uh pavement onto the buses parking lot, so we're good to go there. Um so, we're we're going to be ahead of the schedule. Miss May has taken her team down there with Dr. Akre last week to review the building so
012that they could pick out their classrooms as well. Um Dr. Akre and his team will be moving their once the once our wing gets complete our Hallebertton location they'll be moving their belongings over to Hallebertton to occupy that space so that they can come in and begin working on it at their own pace. >> Can I ask a quick question? >> Absolutely. >> I'm just curious the two different bell systems. >> No, no, no. It's I'm sorry. One bell system >> but there's going to be but Hallebertton is going to have an independent bell system from drone. No. Yeah. When I said a new bell system, we had gotten a new bell system at Hallebertton Academy. We're replacing the whole entire system with Drawn High School or we're removing DRN's old system, putting the new
013system at Hallebertton Academy. Hallebertton Academy doesn't really operate on Bells. Okay. >> Uh sim similar to >> it's more of an elementary school setting. Um, as far as when I say that as far as the okay, it's 10:15 is time to time to change as opposed to the four period schedule. >> I was just curious, >> can the bells be turned up and down and will one disrupt the other's classroom? >> You can you can shut you can shut everything off in that wing. So, yes, we will make sure that there's none of those out outlier distractions. Miss Rocket, that is actually we discussed that as our leadership years ago administration. If you walked into a campus, you would hear, "Uh, I need Sonia Rocket to report to the office. Please report to the office."
014Constant interruptions all day. So, we've eliminated all that. So, unless it's a a picture day where we have to be on schedule, we eliminate all announcements throughout the day. If we have office runners, we have direct lines into the classrooms to try to prevent that distraction is kind of what you were talking about. >> Thank you. >> Yes. All right. Um so Mr. Camp, we are happy to say that um we were able to get our from our last meeting, we were able to organize a lot of retirement gifts and get those gifts sent out to our retirees. We happened to come across this one uh on social media just the other day. Um man, that hit hard BC BCPS. So just as you said that we've talked about this for years, but we just
015felt okay, how how do we do this? And we we backed up a little bit, came with an approach. So, uh, and here's the plaque as you see. Never never underestimate the difference you made in the lives you touched. Happy retirement. So, I I it's just a super thoughtful idea. Uh, I'm glad that we we pushed through and were able to get it done so quickly. Uh, and here again, just one little token that a teacher posts on social media. Um, and once again, we're going to kind of re revamp this for next year and try to have some sort of a teacher retirement banquet at the end of the school year. uh invite family and friends and and and just kind of recognize them a little more in depth. >> Dr. Swan. >> Yes.
016>> You know, the year before we had mentioned doing the letter and you typed up the nice letter for each retiree. Were we still doing that this year as well? >> Yeah, I believe we are. Yes. I need to double check with Mr. Recorder to see if we've got that updated, but as far as I know, we did send a letter out. I'll double check, Miss Taylor. >> We I did get some feedback on that that was very appreciated. Mhm. >> Um >> and in years years in the past, we've done signs. We took out retirement signs as well and put them in front yards of retirees. So little tokens, they they definitely go a long way. Um the you know, I know some businesses do a 30-year plaque or a 25-year watch or what
017have you, but I think some of things like this that you can walk through your house and see um really hit home. So, and again, u we we want to definitely incorporate our project lead the project lead the way teams next next year where they can possibly design some sort of a a handbuilt plaque from our students to them. So, that's something on our agenda as well. >> All right, free summer meals uh for anyone 18 and under. Um so, here again, summer meals started today and I don't have the sites, but we have multiple sites and our food truck goes around as well. um to different locations for those um summer feeding sites. Mr. Wall got tied up as well, so he's not here to help, but I can get you some more details
018on the site locations. I believe they are on our web page as well, Miss Shuffler. Correct. Yeah. >> Yes. Two hours. Two hours. >> So, here again, uh these are unofficial test results. So, we can't say that we're 100% certified on this. We won't have our results probably until Dr. Abernathy. Well, with our growth, we won't have those until probably October, September, October of this coming school year. But as far as our proficiency, and here again, as you recall, the state measures the school system 80% proficiency, 20% growth. Um, so as you see, our science fifth and eighth grade, that's when they take the science test. We had doubledigit percentage point increases across the board. um reading through three through 8th grade, math three through eighth grade maintained or increased proficiency. Uh math one and
019biology once again double digit percentage point increases. Uh math 3 and AP scores also increased. Uh there again it's it's an amazing feeling to recognize our students that did this, our teachers that pushed the students to do it and then our administrators that were able to help that process as well. Sometimes we go through the process of well I don't think we need to be doing this or I don't want to do this but here again uh perfect example after our retesting that we did um this is our first year that the state last year they allowed the school systems to retake and proficiency counted this school year proficiency and growth count. So if you had a student that had a poor day, a bad day, came came to school hungry or tired and didn't
020do well on that test, the next day or the day after that, we were able to retest those students and several of those students increased in their proficiency. So some of many of them passed. So it's well worth doing that testing that we did this year. >> Dr. Swan. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Curious, what do you think changed this year to impact um the increases that we have seen. >> I see a combination of everything. Madam Chair, I do think um having the right people in the right seats as far as teaching um and that's something keeping us from micromanaging, but we do look at certain levels um of testing. A as you you know you the testing begins in third grade, third through 12th grade. So, if you have a high-flying third grade teacher
021that's in second grade or kindergarten, you want to try to get them into that testing field. Um, or you might have a high-flying math teacher teaching all honors level math courses that is only affecting a certain amount. If you can get that high-flying math one teacher to teach a couple math one sections throughout the year, that's that's that's what it takes is getting the right people in the right seats. And that's sometimes the our veteran folks, they don't want to do teach our our um they they we get to the point in our careers where it's oh I want to teach our my AP I want to teach all honors but in order to work for the whole organization that's what we've got to do is get the right people in the right seats and
022I think our administrators did that. Um and I do believe the balance instruction played a key factor in that as well uh 100%. Um and I do see with our um high country STEM over the next several years that is going to be another form of engagement that we're going to see continued increase. >> I assume our our teachers in the classrooms, our principles, those schools work very hard to create the climate to motivate those business. >> Absolutely. It's I I we've I think we can all attest those of us that have been in the classroom teaching is about 80% coaching and motivating students. the content knowledge comes with that as you're going through the dayto day but encou encouraging the student loving on the students getting them to buy into what you're presenting them
023that's a big part of teaching and learning so absolutely get getting the right people hiring the right people so thanks to our HR folks uh the folks that are hiring our teachers the folks that are going through that process getting what's best for Burke County Public Schools >> uh I want to say one thing well a couple things actually on balanced instruction. Um that I don't think whenever we come up with thinking about those ideas for that thing, I don't think none of us thought it was going to be as successful as it was so quickly. And um that's nothing but to contribute to our people. I mean, they was willing to go in and back it and say, "Yeah, we can do that." And I mean, from the from the top down, I mean,
024>> just blows our mind, you know. So, and we had our own staff that that I don't want to say combed it, but just didn't see the need for it right now. But it wasn't that we took things away from them. It was just an additional tool. >> Um, as as I said before, early onset of this, if I can do an assessment of a hundred students on the computer and get an assessment whether those students 100 students know what I just taught rather than giving them pen and paper assessment, taking that assessment home, grading it, and coming back. We're not removing that aspect of teaching. It's more that we want the students to engage studentled interactions and that's what's really working. >> I want to give Dr. Abernathy a pat on the back as
025well. I think being selective on which check-ins I think that was a key uh or part of the key part of the big picture um because I think that's what's going to yield yield help us yield better results in the end. um as well as promoting retesting and getting the kids where where they need to be to get the test retaken to be able to push those schools. >> Absolutely. As you recall, Miss Taylor, we we did the adaptive testing last year. So, we we opted out of the adaptive testing. Um we discussed it as a leadership team based on Dr. Abernathy's recommendation and we were able to go in that route. So we do feel that that that benefited us as well >> on on the uh >> what are we just talking about
026>> great >> balanced instruction sorry um I'd like to see us I we have made we have it has been so successful I mean more successful than like Jamie said any of us thought that maybe we could be we were hoping to see something >> but I think We saw we saw great. >> Um, so not to take anything at all away from that and I don't want anybody up here to think I'm being negative about that at all or any of the staff any any administrator but I think we could challenge especially in our lower grades like K like kindergarten first grade um to take even to give them more human interaction and less screen time. just step it up a notch. Um, at that age, that's what they need. That's what they really
027need. They don't I mean, we have to start it by second grade because of third grade testing, but I'd love to see that challenge. I'd love to see them those grades kind of meet rise to that challenge a little bit. >> Yeah. More play-based than sit and get. We We totally get that. And that's something I know Dr. Wilson has had a conversation with his elementary school principles. Um, play-based learning is you can't ever get that back. The play just the walking into a pre-K classroom, first grade classroom, the pots and pans, the baking cush cookies out of Play-Doh, things like that rather than sitting in front of a computer doing Lexia or doing a check-in with a smiley face and and we've gone away from that um fortunately because of the whole COVID era,
028which we did away with that, but it worked. It did its purp purpose for that time and and we're finished with that. But definitely we we'll take that back to our team. >> Yeah. >> Manipulatives instead of the screens. >> You just walk in one of those rooms and I think everybody here has done this. You walk in one of those rooms and read a book to those kids and they're like >> they are so enthralled. They love it. And so you know and and you don't really see that if they're watching that on a movie on a on a screen or whatever. So Right. No. I get absolutely. We'll take that back to our team. All right, Madam Chair, members of the board, those are my highlights, updates for Burke County Public Schools. Thank
029you. >> Thank you, Dr. Swan. Uh, any comments, questions that are outstanding? >> All right. Next, we have the 2026 2027 alternative school accountability model with Dr. Abernathy. Good evening, Madame Chair and board. Um, thank you for allowing me to present this to you tonight. Um, we have um, talk and go through this alternative school model um, every year for both North Liberty and our Hallebertton Academy. Um, you will notice there's a handout that should be I think in your packet um, that talks about the three different options that the state allows for accountability models for um, any type of alternative setting. Um option A is where they would participate in just the regular accountability model that all of our schools um participate in. Option B actually redefineses the percentages just a little bit and
030looks at student persistence which 20% that means that students actually complete and stay an entire year in North Carolina. um school achievement which is 20% and of course you can see there it's EOG for third through eighth grade science fifth and eighth EOCC's ACT ACT work keys the CGR cohort graduation rate for four and fiveyear and then the math course rigor and then um also three years of data will be looked at instead of just year-toear like in the regular accountability model and then of course growth is 60% um and at the bottom there's three status is there's either progressing which is what they received last year which is three points or higher uh maintaining which is negative -2.9 to 2.9 and then declining which is negative three points and then the last option is
031one that local um eleas can come up with their own model that has to be state approved. Um so normally um we um recommend and have always option B because it allows them more leeway to be able to include more data because as you know that is um a very transient population um and if they're able to count three years worth of data instead of one year um they still are able to perform in the school accountability model. So, we're just I'm coming to you tonight to um get approval for me to submit our alternative school modified um participation plan from Burke County. Um and I choose we selected option B like we always have over a three-year period. >> Dr. three years of data will be used for calculating school achievements. The last three
032years, what three years? So that would be the current year that we're in now and then the previous two. >> Any other questions I can entertain? >> And we have this on the agenda for approval tonight. >> All right. Thank you, Dr. >> All right. Next up, we have the consent agenda items. We have the open session minutes from April 14th, May 11th through 12th, and May 18th, as well as the May 12th close session minutes. Uh, do we have a motion? >> Motion to approve. >> Motion by Mrs. Rocket. Do we have a second? >> Second by Mr. Beck. Any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All those in favor indicate by saying I. I. Those opposed, nay. Eyes have it. The consent agenda passes unanimously. Next, we have the Oh, okay. Now we're in
033the action items. Uh, the 2627 alternative school accountability model um as presented by Dr. Abernathy. Do we have a motion? Motion >> motion by Mr. Johnson. Do we have a second? >> Second by Mrs. Rocket. Any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All those in favor indicate by saying I. >> I. Those opposed? Nay. Eyes have it. It passes unanimously. Next we have the personnel board action report 0608 2026. Do we have a motion or questions? >> Make a motion to approve. >> Motion to approve. Do we have a second? Second by Mr. Wyoff. Any further discussion hearing? Hearing none. All those in favor indicate by saying I. I. Those opposed, nay. >> Eyes have it. The personnel board action report passes unanimously. >> Next, we have the capital request uh for June 2026 with Mr.
034Lawson. Hi, Mr. Lawson. >> Good evening. Uh I ask for your approval tonight for some additional capital summer projects at the schools. I know this report looks a little differently than what you all are accustomed to seeing. Uh I'll point out the POS possible RNR column and that the two of the eight projects that are highlighted is yes. Uh those funds come from state repair and renovation lottery funds and the remaining projects those funds come from our own local capital funding. >> Dr. I have a I have a question. >> Yes. >> Um what we talked about at East High School having the water line done. >> Yes. Dr. Aker and his crew, they'll be working on that this summer. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Uh if there's no further questions, I'll make
035a motion to approve the capital request. >> Second by Mr. Camp. Uh any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor indicate by saying I. >> I. Those opposed, nay. I have it. It passes unanimously. >> Thank you, Mr. Lawson. >> Next, we have the board training credits from our planning session. Do we have any questions or do we have a motion? >> Motion by Mr. Beck. Do we have a second? >> Second by Mr. Johnson. Any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All those in favor indicate by saying I. >> I. Those opposed, nay. Eyes have it. the training credits are approved. Next, we have the Table Rock Middle School gym floor. Dr. Swan, did you want to touch on that? >> Yes. Um, about three weeks ago, I had a community member reach out
036to me regarding adding a name of a retired educator, Miss Janet Green, onto the gym floor. Uh, I submitted a picture in the packet for you guys. Um, that was a design uh that this that they had submitted for that. Miss Janet Green was a probably 30-year retired educator for Burke County Public Schools. Still helps out over at Table Rock Middle School. Um, and that was based on our policy. That was the request. Uh, they present it to me and I present it to the board for further discussion or approval. >> Um, so what I'm thinking is how do you guys feel about leaving this up to the school? us making a motion to leave it up to the individual school to determine school administration. Let me be clear. >> I think that I think
037we need to be the people that make the decision because um things like this sometimes get a little more push back than you would expect and we need to be a we need to be the ones taking the heat if there is push back and not the school administration. That's that's my opinion. I think the final decision lies with the board on that. I like you know the way that it has been as process wise. Um I think the final say should be should be here and then we take into account but this is the first week on back. >> I don't think you'll hear anybody from the community. have any complaints at all? >> Not about that. >> Um >> it's policy 9300 for reference to if you'd like to. So, the last time
038we had this discussion with um naming something after somebody, a retired educator or whatever, there was discussion about the person that is making the request or the committee or the group or whatever that's making the request um would be responsible for for whatever the placard or whatever it is financially responsible for that. Now, I don't think we ever put that into policy, but is that what we're looking at here? Is that something we need to think about? Um because we need to do this the same way every time and I don't know that we have. Well, >> as you recall that the last time that the recommendation was up here, nothing transpired out of that. Um this is the the gym floor has to get redone right now because there was some water damage. So,
039and if I'm not mistaken, were they up for a new floor anyway. So, with that comes it's comes a co complete new strip sanding down, new urethane, new paint job. So that's already in accounted for in the in the cost of replacing the gym floor. You could say it's up to make it up to an individual school or principal, but sometimes the principles are there for a year, you know, and and you know, like the administration, you've been around much longer to know uh who she is and and what she has meant to the school. And she is this particular person just aside she's she's a life breath of Table Rock Middle School and everyone loves her she's she's amazing but again just leaving up to a principal who hasn't been there more than a
040year about a year seems like an administrative position decision >> I would agree >> idea >> and based on the policy that's where it doesn't fall within the parameters of the policy per se because it's not a facility. It's a floor and the floor itself is not listed within the facility. So, but there again, that's why I felt it was important for you guys to make that determination. >> Well, we just opened up a can of worms. So, >> I mean, my opinion is that we we just go ahead and make that decision. And I know it's not laid out completely and specifically in policy, but it is part of a facility and we do make the recommendations on facility names. So I guess that's where it would fall. That's just my opinion. >> How
041was admin feeling about it over there? >> Madam Chair, I did look and that our policy is state board policy as well. So we pretty much mirror what they >> they do and and Okay. How does admin at table rock feel about it? >> Right. >> 100% supportive of >> I would say they would be considered who it is. >> Well, the the reason I say that is because I think all of us at some point all of us I know for sure sitting on this board have had multiple requests to name the wasp nests outside after somebody and I don't have the pleasure of knowing Mrs. Green. Um and so thinking future-wise as boards change. Leaving something like that up to people who may not know the impact that individuals have on communities, I
042just I don't know. It could swing either way. If the admin and the community say they want to do this, I'm all for it. Hence my reason for it came to us, it it was presented. If the school wants to do it, let them do it. >> I mean, I think that's that's the the the process or the policy in a nutshell. But I still think that if if there is even one person that's going to bring heat to it, they need to bring it to us. They don't need to bring it to to that um administration at that school or even to the to the superintendent to central office administration. I think that just needs to be a because we can we can reach out to that community, to those school, to that school,
043to those teachers, that administration, and see what they feel and how they what their opinions of it are. So, >> well, it's going to have to go up the chain anyway. So, I mean, it's going to have to go through the steps, then it's going to have to go to them. And if it's something that he's not going to make a recommendation to the board, and whoever's sitting here is not going to hear about it anyway. So, >> yeah. And and I think that's a good point, Mr. Johnson. I wouldn't bring a recommendation to you if it was a hornet's nest or a wasp. I mean, you know what I'm saying? I I would I would try to be selective on any of the recommendations that come just because policy states that I can still
044be the determining factor on what keeps going to you. I think >> I think we're saying the same thing though, right? >> Aren't we saying the same? Yeah. Okay. >> Just want to make sure. >> Yeah. You just went left. I went right. We still got the same place. >> We got to the middle. So, we're not for changing the policy as it stands. >> I think it's a state policy. >> It's a state policy. facilities. >> So, Table Rock Community wants it. All right. So, do we have a motion? >> I'll make a motion. >> I'll second. >> Motion by Mr. Johnson. Second by Mrs. Taylor. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor indicate by saying I. I. Those opposed, nay. Eyes have it. The Table Rock Middle School gym floor naming
045has passed unanimously. >> Thank you. I will make note. >> Awesome. Thank you. And the last one we have on the agenda is the Chesterfield demolition. >> Yes. As you recall, several months ago, we presented a quote from DH Griffin out Hickory to demol demolish Chesterfield Elementary School. Um, so we want to revisit that so that we can kind of get the ball rolling on that process as well. >> So, do we have a new quote? >> We do not have a new quote. The same quote is still applies. um same partnership that we have with the county uh using the landfill as well >> because this quote says it's only good for 30 days and it's way out out of 30 days. >> We're okay. Um, this quote also says that this proposal excludes
046rerouting, removing or disconnecting utilities, new construction, indoor materials, reclamation, storage or relocation of any items of others, state work, field material, contaminated soil removal, any other asbestous or hazardous materials and any other work not specifically listed above. Our team is going to be cutting based on the which direction the board would like to go. Our team will be taking care of the utilities uh and removing any equipment that is deemed un or deemed fit to keep. >> And pretty much they'll come in and demo the building, take the take the demo away, and it'll be left uh they'll they'll plant grass over where the school was. Um, and do that. >> Who's planting grass? >> The DH Griffin handles that. >> And where's the where's the amount on this quote? Am I blind? Probably >>
047two of that number two at the bottom of two. >> And we did check with the realtor, local realtor. Uh, the the property is more valuable without anything on it. >> So again, we're going to pay $250,000 to demo it and then sell it for 300,000. potentially more based on real estate. >> How long have we had this property that's nothing been used? It's not been used >> since 2018. >> 2018. Yes. At some point in time, loss, no loss, whatever. We're going to have to make some make a >> sell it like it is. As I mentioned at our last meeting, selling it like it is could potentially open up another opportunity for a charter private school to occupy that building which would ultimately draw students away from Burke County Public School. >> I
048mean, I understand that, but what's the likelihood of that? And um if this if this building or these buildings, is it multiple buildings are in as bad a shape as they are? >> It is. How like what's the likelihood of that? I just I just don't think we're being good stewards of um the school's money to spend $250,000 to tear a building down. I say we put it on the market and sell it as it is, but that's just my opinion. >> Can we get some information from I guess the experts on real estate or whatever and at least look at it and see because I don't know. I'm not familiar with the market as far as you know how many acres is that? eight or nine or no it's more than that 13 so
049I don't know what you would get from 13 acres with a building without a building >> the tax value on it is a million something million plus and your real estate person that you talked to said it would probably only bring around 300,000 >> no that was not who I talked to about that was a preliminary >> Mr. Lawson did we did we talk to our person about any And did he give us a price for one way versus the other way or what he thought it would sell for? >> I wonder if they would provide any type of estimate or something, you know, just so we had an idea. >> I would I would like we have realtor that's looking at it. Can he come and speak to us about talk to us about
050how much he thinks it would be worth? >> I we could definitely reach out and get some information. >> The only thing I have a concern with about Chesterfield is it has it it's it's been plaguing us since what 2018. It's become a nuisance in the community. I personally don't have a problem saying I don't want to give anything at easy, nice, cheap value to a private school, charter school. I just don't. You can quote me on that. Um, I want to get rid of it. I want to get rid of it. I want to get rid of it now. I'm tired of everybody asking and bringing up Chesterfield. So, I'm cool personally with just going ahead and demoing it. But if it's the board's consensus that they want more information and want to talk
051to realators, cool. Me as it stands, I just want to demo it and sell it. Get rid of it. Cuz I don't know with its location and the condition that it's in if cuz we wouldn't get rid of it till we sell it. And if we're looking if you're talking about a 300,000, who's buying that other than a charter or private school? I just >> a developer. We don't have what it cost. >> So, is it the consensus to get additional information and >> and have a real realator come in and present to the board? >> Have that on 22nd. Do we have a preference for realtor? >> Someone local. I just >> Is there is a not trying to be argumentative here. Is the proper person a realtor? Is that the proper is a
052I don't know. >> I don't know either. >> I would think a developer realtor. >> Okay. I I like I just I don't know. Right. >> Commercial commercial commercial. >> That's where I'm going with it. I don't want us to have get someone and then they be the wrong type of someone and we have to redo this >> for the system that handles buys and sells our property for us. Um, for example, our sites that we have built on, um, I believe is a developer as well that that can look at that. would you concur, Mr. Lawson? >> Groundbreaking. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> How quickly can we get this done? >> We probably have him here on the 22nd. >> So that's that's two weeks, right? >> Yeah. >> Is there any cost to
053us for waiting till then? >> From waiting? No. No. >> That's a good question, Brad. Is would it cost us anything to have this done? Okay. So, the 2. I just want to get it done quickly. I don't want us to be sitting there at Christmas still talking about Chesterfield, honestly. >> So, okay. All right. >> Now, will this will this person bring us an objective opinion or Sweet. Thank you. >> Awesome. All right. So, 22nd. Is that fair or do we need more time? >> We can get it. >> Awesome. Thank you. All right. Um, do we have anything else? Do we have a need for close session? >> Yes, >> we do. Okay. Anything else? Any comments from anyone before we go ahead and move into close session? >> Yeah, let me say
054something real quick. So earlier I mentioned you know about balanced instruction and how successful it's been for us and and how hard our people's work to make that successful. Um I think they ought to get credit for it. You know credit's due for it. And uh I know that some of y'all know about we had there was there's been two or three um national articles that's came out. CBS, NBC, those two I know of who's basically cited another county as being the innovators for this. And and know when whenever we started this, we we've gone out and we've we've preached it everywhere. We want everybody to join in and and do this with us, but we have um I mean, we've pretty much started it oursel and we've got it looks like we've got one
055district that's taken the credit for it and um I I don't think that's right for our people. Um, I mean, you can go back in articles and look and where you have one individual at that school district was saying that they did find another district that was doing something and uh wasn't very helpful, but then they copied our resolution word for word. And so I think our our people, you know, like I said, I we've went out and we've preached this everywhere to get everybody else to follow in, but don't take the credit for what we've done. You know, at least our people's work too hard for it. And so what I proposed that u we send a letter to them and let let them know you know what our resolution said not only to
056them but to the media outlets that they've told that they're innovators of this. >> I think second motion. I mean, like you said, not for our purposes, but for all the people that had to implement this and go through and spend hours and hours and hours working on it, while we just got to sit here and say, "Yeah, do it." You know, that that's not fair to them. >> No, they they've worked too hard for it for the innovators of it. You know, our people are Burke County and and it's it's not right for somebody just come in and steal it. And >> we need to stand up for our people. >> Exactly. All right. Is that a motion and a second I hear on the table? >> Is that what I heard? >> Yeah,
057I'll make a motion. >> All right. We have a motion to write a letter. >> Oh, we're going to do it. >> What's your motion? >> Well, I I say we Yeah. I say as a board, we go in and we and we write a joint letter explaining what's happened, what's going on with our evidence for this. And um just we're doing it joint of the board. >> And who are we writing this letter to? >> To who? >> To the school district. Uh which would include the superintendent and the individuals in the in the articles and uh along with the news associations. >> So the people that did the that did the reporting and >> Yes. >> and the individuals. Yeah. At the school district. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So that's >> I still
058second that same motion. >> Okay, we have a motion by Mr. Wyoff and a second by Mr. Johnson. Uh do we have any further discussion, questions about said motion? All right, hearing none. All those in favor of writing this letter indicate by saying I. >> I. Those opposed, nay. >> Nay by Mr. Beck. All right, it passes. All right. Anything else? All right. We do have a need to go into close motion. I make closed motion. Close session. We're coming up on the end, you guys. Motion to enter close session pursuant to North Carolina General Statute Section 143-318.11 A3 to consult our attorney in order to preserve the attorney client privilege. And six, for the purpose of considering confidential personnel matters in accordance with North Carolina General Statute 115C-319-321. Do I have a second? Second,
059>> second by Mr. Beck. All those in favor indicate by saying I. I. Those opposed, nay. Eyes have it. We are now in close session. Thank you everyone.