001All right, we'll call the meeting to order. We'll start with roll call. Um, I guess I'll start. I'm John Shaman, the Richardton Taylor school board president. Jake Peterson, uh, Taylor Richardton school board member. >> Jesse Richardson, >> Russ Zler, Richard Taylor, superintendent Olson, Richard Taylor school board. business manager for Richard. Jam, He board member. >> Myron tough, superintendent Hebrin and athletic director. >> Dave Krenzel, Hein School Board. >> Elder, business manager. He >> Ashley Palmer board member. >> Holly Martinson, Hein board member. >> Damen Pollson, Richard Taylor, board member. >> Bill McCoen, Hein School Board member. Uh, >> Jason Cresen, Heboard member. Okay, we'll go with approval of agenda or any additions. >> And who do who do we got on the phone? >> Um Justin Wearary. Yes, Justin, >> you hear us? >> Yep.
002Yep, I'm here. Justin Weary, school board member. >> I almost forgot about that. Sorry. >> Yeah, thanks for making point that out. I forgot too. He's on a Caribbean cruiser somewhere. Oh. Okay. Is there any additions to the agenda? Everybody get a chance to look at it. Okay. With it. Okay. Do we have a motion to approve the agenda? >> I'll second that. >> We do our second. >> Yeah. Do I mean we each need to do it? >> I so move. >> Okay. >> I'll second. >> We have a motion in a second. All in favor of the motion, please say I. I. I all oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. >> Did you get that? >> Okay. >> You seconders. What was your name? >> Jake Peterson. >> Peterson. Bear with me because I
003don't have many of you guys. >> Yep. >> Do I get a motion to approve the agenda? >> Also move. >> So move. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Holly seconded. All in favor? >> I >> motion carried. >> Okay, rest. Go ahead. Tada. >> Should we do the pledge? I know we usually do the pledge. I didn't have it on the agenda, but >> Oh, we did it. >> You did it before. Okay. >> Our other one. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, if you want to, we can. >> I don't know if we got a flag in here. >> No. >> Okay, that's fine. >> Uh, so first is the projected numbers uh that was just passed pass passed around 22 for elementary girls basketball 11 junior high girls 18 varsity girls basketball
00436 elementary boys uh 21 junior high boys 28 varsity boys 35 elementary volleyball 20 junior high volleyball 30 varsity volleyball law track uh really don't have any hard numbers yet from from us anyway. So, but uh I guess we'll just jump to the cross country and volleyball co-op fees. So, if we as boards, if you decide to do everything, it would be $500 per sport that we're late in. So that would be $500 for cross country and $500 for volleyball since their seasons are over already. So that'd be uh $1,000 late fee that would go to NDHSAA if you wanted to approve the co-op and have everything involved including cross country volleyball. If you wanted to wait on those for a year then you could you know eliminate that fee. So, I guess you have
005to decide uh if the fee is worth copying everything right away or if you want to wait. So, and then uh I guess just to get the ball rolling, uh Myin and the AD uh from Hebrin and the ADS from here principles met and we did kind of a we used Grant County Aluna Litic and and uh M Regent's co-op as a starting point just to go over some items and then I think this would be a good way to go through it as a as the boards so then we can stay on topic, stay on track and then I guess I don't know how you guys think but I guess in order for us to really do this and see what it's going to look like. Is it okay if we assume that we're
006doing the co-op? because I mean some of these questions you're going to have to be like when the co-op happens this is how we're going to do it. So I don't know if that's what you guys want to do. It's not saying you're going to do the co-op but you're just assuming that you will just to answer >> answer the parts. >> Just make sure that's in the minutes. >> Right. that that assumption is raised through the through the work here. >> So, uh at our first meeting, we talked about co-op teams and uh between the it wasn't full boards, but between the board members that were there, uh it was the RTH, Richardson taylor Hebrin, same as football. Uh the colors, royal blue and gray, which would be the same as football. Uh we
007didn't talk about the fight song uh in here. It's just wherever you're playing, that's the fight song you're going to play. So if we play in Hebrin, it'd be He's fight song. If we play here, it would be our fight song. Uh the mascot would be the Raider. And then uh kind of general information. Number five, Warma Jerseys uniforms would require final approval by both school superintendents before before they can be purchased. But even like those top four, I guess any questions, concerns, anything different that that you'd want to discuss on those four? >> Sounds like everything we just discussed before, right? >> Yeah, sounds like what we agreed upon. >> Okay. And then the next section six is more finances. uh co-ops usually do a reconciliation at the end of the year. So then
008we get our our books together and try and figure out if one school spent more than the other than the other school owes that school just to to even it out. I know we had talked about a 50/50 equal basis uh for expenses which would include coaching costs, transportation, equipment, referees, uh anything involved there. Salaries for the coaches would be determined by the superintendent of each school and approved by both school boards. Financial responsibility uh would be shared equally between both schools. All purchases for the co-op would be agreed upon by the district superintendent and the superintendent would establish criteria for for what is to be purchased. So I guess the question I highlighted is the 50/50 and equally. I know we had some discussion on on how the finances would be would be split.
009And then another question I had is anything that we do here is that going to reflect on what's going on in football because currently I think RT is is paying the majority of football. So I don't know. I mean, if that's another question to decide by the boards is is if you choose to go 5050 or 8020 or whatever it is, is that going to be the same for football? >> Well, I would sure think it would be. >> Yeah. >> I mean, we haven't always been, but um I sure would think it would be my opinion. >> The same, >> you know, we're do 5050. It's all sports. whatever sports you're involved in >> cross do the 50/50 across the board or keep football the same. >> Well, I would do 50/50 across the
010board. That's the way that >> Right. So, all the sports are the same. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> You'd have to have your business manager sit down and just make sure that the expenses that we're putting as a shared expense are the same between schools. you know, you know, like now looking, we have a shared expense and >> um just make sure that one's not charging for one thing and the other's not, you know, just so it's it's good at the end of the year. >> You're comparing apples to apples. >> Yeah. >> So, I don't this would be a good spot to discuss though about, you know, how this how the split would be or or what what it could be if if the co-op goes through. I mean, right now we're 50th through
011the conolan on everything, right? >> So, it wouldn't change for us much. >> Do you use a similar process of reconciliation at the end of the >> I think they wrote us a check. They've written us a check every year, but they've had a >> change of people and you know, >> we had the majority of the coaches >> and we and we had majority of that and majority of the drivers and transportation and that sort of thing. So, >> usually a check was coming our way. >> That process was pretty straightforward though. >> I have a spreadsheet set up for each sport. >> Okay. >> And when a bill comes across my desk or I pay a coach, I put it on whatever sport it gets charged to right away. So I don't have
012to go through at the end of the year and try to find everything. >> Well, I mean then what you just said maybe should be included in here. Some sort of a a tracking >> Yeah. >> system will be included to Yeah, >> that's way I track ours >> cuz like examples like with us in my own like uniforms uniforms would come to our school, we'd pay the bill >> and just be on a shared expense on that form. you know, anything that along those lines would would be split between. She would just we pay the bill and she would just put, you know, end of the year, then that other half goes on that spreadsheet and >> yeah, because they're not going to send, you know, they're going to send send certain things to
013one school. So, >> they pay the bill. It's not a big deal. It's going to be a shared expense as long as business manager knows what items are going to be. That's what I was talking about earlier that just have to make sure that business managers are on the same page and have a spreadsheet the same of of what's going to be shared expenses so that at the end of the year just sit down and >> do you know how like what percentage we're splitting football right now for >> you know I don't know we I think we paid um we paid a salary >> we paid a salary which was Justin's >> and uh transportation >> what about in the finances what about receipts, uh, ticket take that type. >> It goes on that
014same spreadsheet. I got a separate thing on there, too. >> So, with Glenol and your co-op, you've been 50/50 on their seats as well. >> On the gates. Yep. And then >> activity tickets sold. >> Activity tickets. Yep. And and as far as your close-ups and your concessions, that's just all kept at each school. >> Oh, okay. >> You know, like our junior class does our concession. They they they keep the money they make from that concession. He keeps he going keeps going and then closeup. We have close-up serves at all our games, you know, and of course they they keep their money for their organization. >> Did you say you split the gate money? >> Yeah. For each game? >> We have. Yeah. >> With Gal and were your participation rates as far as
015students close to the same? >> Oh, yeah. In some sports. >> Yeah. you know, in some sports it was one way or the other. Um, when we started the co-op many years ago, well, it was 24 years ago, it was, you know, we did a split and everything else and Rich or Glen changed their name and colors and everything. and we went Bearcats and it was mostly Glen kids playing for quite a number of years there and we did a 50/50 split but then quite a number of years now been mostly he just goes in cycles like when we started out with clown we had just a couple kids played that's it you know and then eventually it just switched around and then we had you know the majority of of the kids the last
016number of years in the basketball, you know. Um, but >> yeah, I think >> this is trying to set up percentage of well, what it looks like now of percentage of kids to, you know, each town. It might change in 5 years. So then you got this percentage set up of who pays what. Well, maybe just keep it at the 50/50 and over time it evens out somewhat, I guess. I don't know what would be the benefit of trying to sway one way or the other. I mean, you guys obviously have more kids in school and and more participants. So, it would be in our favor to have you guys pay more of it, but I don't think that's why we're here, you know. >> Okay. Ready to move on >> finances though? Just some
017action items. I'd like to know is the scope of that. I mean, I hear sounds like you've maybe done some research into that of like, look, it ain't going to put us in a pinch, but you will see a larger bill. You know, I just would like to at least have an idea. So, I wouldn't mind seeing a little bit of it. It can be rough, but an assessment of what we're looking at for financial impact for for both schools just just so know what we're >> looking at on it because if you don't address it now, it could be an issue later. and and then we would just be remiss >> as far as you're seeing the expenses that both schools are. >> It's kind of a rough idea if we can. I mean,
018like I said, you know, >> I mean, there's going to be a little skewed though having the co-op in place already. >> Yeah. Well, that's what I mean. I'm not sure if we have do we have the expertise for someone to give like like even a hand grenade measurement of what we project for ideas of financial impact of full scope then and what each each school would see for that just an estimate. >> Is that a lot to ask or >> is that something we can predict? I don't know. >> Well, depends upon the coaches where Yeah. >> And and you know, I guess our salaries, that's one thing we have to look at is our salary schedules. >> Okay. >> Get those to match and all that. He could do a rough prediction. >>
019Okay. >> But yours will go down, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Ours might go up a little bit. >> Yeah. The only >> But I mean, >> the only increase for us would be uh busing for practices. >> Really? >> Yeah. Yeah. So, >> yeah, we have three of those small little white buses. I mean, we have one white and one small, you know, those are used for practices. >> Yeah. >> So, those are route buses. Those are available. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, I'm sure we could put something together kind of. >> Yeah. Just something to look at because I don't know if we're talking about each district is at 500,000, 700,000 or 200,000, you know, >> so yeah. And I've seen things like this look before like it's going to be a financial
020savings and then it ends up not being you know that uh other expenses or something coming in if we could get a feel for that. Anyway, so uh number seven, activity passes. I when we did this, we weren't sure how we wanted to do it. if we just wanted each school to use one activity pass or if each school is going to make their own. Uh so I put in here rates for activity passes will be based on the need for that particular school but activity passes will be good at either school for regular season home events. So I don't know what you guys charge for your activity passes but you would continue to charge that. We would charge what we do but we would both take >> either one. Does that get split then
021in the 5050 then >> that's that's for >> so that gets put at the top though >> we'd almost have to be >> I think we same activities >> because 50/50 anyway >> in the end >> and and what we've done is we have a list that you know people show up there's a list of the hein people have activity It gets glown people and then they just look on the list. But I kind of like the pass thing that you guys do. We used to do that when people don't have a pass. Well, we can just take a picture of it with your phone, >> right? >> And you can show them. >> Um because a lot of times there are people that are taking tickets, they don't know everybody that comes through there.
022>> Especially with the new co-op, they they don't know everybody. So if they have a pass and just show them a pass at least, >> you know. >> Yeah. You have to have something with new people and Oh, you you'd forget your pass, but if you take a picture of it, you'd >> I'll have to do that. But, uh, postseason passes of course by NASA honored at whatever school is hosting that postseason game. Uh, 8 Wednesday night, church night for Richard. We can't have anything after 6. Uh, and then we talked about schools traveling for practice. They could need to be home by 6:30. >> We've always >> that's what I think that's what most schools do. Uh, elig eligibility policies. I know they're a little bit different between the the districts. Uh, in here
023I said follow each school's own athletic handbook, but I think we almost need to have some sort of a common one because if if Joe gets to play on whichever whichever eligibility is easier, then that might be a point of contentious contention with the other students. >> When we visit, I think I think we're pretty much on the same page. Only only difference was um we went Monday to Monday and you guys were Wednesday to Wednesday, >> which would be a problem. Um, you know, we do ours Monday to Monday. So, we check our grades Monday morning. If someone's failing a class, they're ineligible for the rest of that week. And then on Monday, they check grades again and if everything's good, they're good to go for that week. You guys just do it on
024Wednesdays. We visit about it and I think we're >> we're pretty close on everything there. We just have to choose a day. >> Yeah. >> And it wouldn't matter to us if we went to Wednesdays. I mean, >> Monday or Wednesday, doesn't matter. They're still checking their grades every week, >> right? >> Doesn't matter what. >> And we have the same uh the same level, too. You can't be failing anything. >> Yeah. >> Over here. >> When we first started, we didn't have that. >> Most people went on were different. >> Different. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And we eventually got it the same. >> Uh concessions, we already talked about that a little bit. The school in which the game activity takes place would keep the concession revenue. uh admission prices at each place would
025be consistent. Uh practice transportation for the sake of practices transportation will be provided by arranged by or determined by the individual school districts. Transportation expenses for practices will be paid by each individual school district. But if we do the 50/50 then that would be part of that >> that gets thrown in that mix then. And then I guess we'd have to be on the same page as far as what what do you pay your drivers for driving, you know, like for practice. Come say you come over to Hein for practice, you know, we'd have to be on the same page of what we're paying. >> What do you pay? >> We $16. >> Well, well, no, it's at $20. >> Oh, yeah. $20. Yeah. >> $20 a flat rate now. >> Okay. >> They just
026get 20 bucks for driving. >> We used to do $1610 a mile. was like 1760. >> We changed that, >> you know, then we just changed the 20 bucks flat rate from Glen to He, you know. >> Oh, sure. Okay. You didn't do an hour or anything. >> No, cuz you know, when they get over there, they're coaching, >> right? >> So, they get 20 bucks for driving over, >> right? >> That's it. You know, comes to be about, you know, or 30 40 minutes of driving time. They get they get 20 bucks. >> Unless it's a coach. >> Yeah. Unless it's not a coach, of course, >> which we've had because >> depending on if we have coaches for certain sports, we've had to, >> you know, we have people that drive them over,
027then they're going to get paid more. >> Yeah. That's the same. We do $20 an hour for a coach, but they don't when they're coaching, they're not getting that. Yeah. Yeah. Just what their driving time. >> Yeah. >> But then if they have a CDL though, we we bumped it up to 25 to hopefully get more people to get a CDL. >> We tried that, but it didn't work. Nobody still wants to do it. >> Uh game transportation to and from away events will be determined by the two ads after the season schedule is available. Flexibility will be built into the schedule to allow for any unforeseeable events. Costs for the driver and bus may be assessed and divided equally at the end of the year. So that would be part of that reconciliation. And
028what we've done with Oklahoma is, you know, if we're going west, they would drive. If we're going east, we would drive for events. Doesn't mean always has to be that, but kind of with our schedule because we a lot of times we play like with basketball. We play out in the east a lot right away. And we go, you know, we go to Jamestown, we go to Linton for a shootout, and we go to different places down there. And then the Mandan holiday tournament we're in. And then but then with all our district games, everything's out this way. So it kind of evens its way out, >> you know, just depending. But >> but just schematics of that when you when you start with the farthest bus, they could pick up that person and go
029otherwise you stop on the bus, they have to get on a cold bus and they go back home again, >> right? It's not. >> And there's times where we, you know, they couldn't find a bus driver or we couldn't find a bus driver and, you know, we we've shared buses or we had a driver paid him a p, you know, paid him drive his vehicle over to Glenn and hop in their bus and come get us one of our drivers. It would have done different things just depending on >> circumstance, you know, but that's all going to wash out anyways in the end here, right? >> But it's just nice if you can kind of stick to some kind of routine, >> right? Yeah. uh communication follow the chain of command as defined by both
030schools and with communication coming from both athletic directors. So I guess we we talked a little bit about that as as our board as far as you know the communication for us is the if it's a parent for example or a student they visit with the coach first and then the AD then the building principal then the superintendent but I don't know since you're superintendent a and ad if that changes your your chain a lot or >> not really ours is pretty much the same is um If a if a student or or athlete has a student athlete has a problem with the coach, we want them to visit with the coach first. And if that doesn't seem to solve it, then the parent can visit with the coach or the parent can have the
031ad there at a meeting. And that's what we've done. We haven't had too many of those, but that's what we and usually the parent will ask the want to have the ad there. are the ads there, you know, and um and then talk about and that's really um had very few of those. >> Yeah, but that's what we've done. I guess there hasn't been any I guess with me being superintendent and admission, you know, like it's like nephews or whatever, you know, haven't had that issue. My kids are graduating now. So, >> so with you and Glenn Owen, do you each have AD right now? >> Well, I've I've been doing the full AD for both schools the last two years. >> Okay. >> They did hire someone this year to help with their because
032their football was going to Bula Golf. They go to New Salem and so she's been helping with that. And um but and then but she's been helping me a little bit. I mean, I I keep her in the loop and everything else, but like as far as scheduling and everything and announcing at the games, I I've done that the last couple years because they had, you know, Pete Remble, the superintendent, passed away. He was AD. Um, so they've had some turnover. So, I've just done it the last couple years. Okay. >> I'd prefer not to probably, but I don't know who else we're going to get to do it, but you know, it's a timeconsuming job. It's unbelievable how much time you spend as an AD. It It's unbelievable here or there. And I I
033like to do it too because it's going to come across my desk anyways because a lot of times, you know, you have an ad h they're going to come over. What do you think about this? Or what should we do with this? Or it's going to come to you anyways. And I guess I like to be organized. So, I want to make sure the schedule is schedules get done and we don't have buses showing up at Glenn Allen and the games in Hebrin, you know, that sort of thing. There just a lot of communication that you need to have with all the other schools to make sure that, you know, and the mountain and central time, >> right, >> and so forth. So, >> well, I think that's one that we're going to want to
034define more than it's probably authored here. um you know, especially when it comes to a positions and so many salary and that uh I think some of the specifics it's almost implied here but not straight out said whether we're going to have an athletic director from both districts or one athletic director. It doesn't specify. I mean the 50/50 kind of implies, but that's a pretty big bill. If we start talking two athletic directors, how does that get paid? Um and I'm not sure what that looks like on the seller schedule. And then also who the athletic director should report to whether it's one of the two superintendents, one superintendent, but you know that I think as much of that as we could iron out in the agreement would be and the authorship of it here
035leaves a lot to be implied I think. So, I don't know if I have a strong opinion one way or the other on any of that, but >> well, I think um you know, anytime you have home game, whether it's elementary or we had talked about this, junior high, whatever, um it's always been in our co-op, it's always been the home school that lines up the ticket takers, you know, your officials for your home games, you know, all that clock, shot clock, whatever, all that that the home people would line those up, >> right? and Glenn Ellen. We have a I just send a list over there all the games and they they have people that sign up and they have everything. I don't have to worry about the workers over there, right? >> They
036don't have to worry about them over in here. That sort of thing. Varsity, your officials, you send those to the either the Bismar official association or Dickinson official association. They just send the crew out for your varsity sports. And a lot of times they don't tell you who they're going to send out until a couple days before. So, it's it's always hard on business managers because then then they call a day before. Well, no, no, so and so is not going to be here, you know. But, I mean, you work it out and you get the checks written out and so forth. But, that's kind of how we've done it is the home people, you know. Um, all the varsity games I still do. I do still do the announcing and and that sort of
037thing and just make sure that's good. But, your junior high in elementary, you have your you probably have your local refs, I'm sure, that have officiated for a long time. You know, we have a couple guys that have done it for a long time and we usually rely on them pretty heavily for the junior high and elementary games. >> I can talk, so I'm going to try not to. But I think back to your statement is is it going to be better to have 180 to run the whole thing or have 180 from each school trying to coordinate everything or and that's what we don't know. I guess as far as we have been doing, it's been basically one just because it's been a lot smoother and um Myer knows his stuff. So, it's run
038pretty good. Um but whether that's going to work here or not >> remains something we can easily discuss. You know, um >> the big thing um is transportation. Um, you know, I put out a transfer transportation schedule for the every day of the week and who's driving what bus for practice for everything. And you know, because when you're going, you know, you guys are used to, you know, they just get out of school and they go right to your gym, right? >> You know, where we we're passing, you know, cuz we might have junior high practice over there and varsity practice and hein and >> and they're going and and um so that that's the big thing is transportation. But um that's that, you know, either AD can do, whatever. But just something to take
039into consideration that a lot of miles get put on those little white buses every day. >> When when Pete was there, didn't you guys uh kind of split up by sports, too? >> In the beginning. >> At In the beginning, we did. Yeah. >> Yep. We split up the sports and I didn't like that because what happens when he's scheduled then is if I'm doing basketball, he's doing volleyball, whatever. All a sudden we got junior high and elementary, he's got he's got junior high and elementary game scheduled, then I schedule games and then end up on the same date. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? You think, okay, this day is open, but if you have one person doing it, >> you do all your schedule, >> you know? >> So, if you
040don't want to be this AD anymore, you're doing a poor job of talking yourself. But I mean, we're probably going to get more wrong than right, but I think as much as we can get an ink on that. Uh >> yeah, we and we we would just have to visit with it and and it everything like anything, everything's communication. >> Sure. >> You got to communicate with each other. If you don't communicate and you know, then you're going to have issues. >> Yeah. for Richard. Our ad hasn't been very consistent for what, probably three or four years. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah, it is it's a piece that we're going to have to want to try to get right. Might end up be something that you have to pay for quite, you know, to get
041to. So, >> and that's something too where it pays their salary schedules for athletics. We just have to look at them. >> My opinion is you just go with whoever has the higher salaries. Coaches don't get paid enough in my opinion. >> You know, I wouldn't want us to go backwards or anybody go backwards whether it's your school or our school, >> right? >> I just that's how I feel. But >> yeah, I agree. >> No, I think to to that effect too, >> I don't know. We're having part of the reason we're here is >> coaches. We are not finding coaches. we are not consistent with coaching and all that stuff like that and that has brought our system into a quite a bit of chaos. I think you guys have uh stability with
042coaches and stuff like that, but you know, so we've got coaches do need to be paid. That's for sure. I'm not I'm not sure I would say the same sentiment that we have stability with coaches just to just to get it out there and be open. Um but I do think and I don't know, you know, I haven't had a chance to look through this if it comes up later, but the coaching is another piece that I think we need to ink up as much as possible. Again, it's tough. it's we're probably going to have a hard time getting it right, but you know, historically I was a teacher for a while and maybe it's changed and it has for Richard a bit. We were struggling more to find uh teacher coaches. Um but it
043always was a piece of a school's leverage was an attraction of oh you you really want to coach this sport why we have that opportunity for you or we will in a couple of three years. Uh I'm not sure what that looks like and how much you can commit, but if we can come up with some manner of allowing to preserve that, I'm not sure, you know, if he has that has a significant number of coaches that are teachers that, you know, we want to be able to preserve that uh that for both districts. um and what that looks like. It's I don't think it's in here, but exactly what wording on that looks like. I don't know some thoughts on that. How many coaches do you guys have from Hebrin that coach between the
044two schools right now? >> Um volleyball, they have the varsity coaches. They had one, we only had one one volleyball coach last year and she did ABC, you know, and that's from she's from Glenn, but we had someone this year join her who um lives in Glenn and um it's not on staff and then the head volleyball coach is not on staff either. Um, junior high volleyball is done by our coach. Um, which we we just had one and that wasn't enough either, but it's all we had. Um, elementary volleyball's done by one of ours and one of theirs. Um, elementary boys basketball was done by um, our coaches. Um, Justin was one of them, one of the board members here. Football, Justin did the pee. He helped with the PUA and the varsity. Um
045just trying to go through the coaches here. Elementary was was our coaches, but off staff. Same with, you know, Justin's off staff. Um junior high was on staff as our coach. And for junior high girls basketball, varsity boys is one of each this year. and they're each on staff, but they don't they don't plan on they just doing this year, one year. I think when we talked before, we we come over, it'd be your coach's coach, varsity level, you know, and we don't have anybody that's at the varsity level to coach basketball or any of that. So, >> what about track, >> you know? Well, I guess that would have to be discussed, too, but >> because we we We have track coaches. >> Yeah, we in track. We have the track coach. Yes. Cross
046country coach. We had >> um but um we don't have any coaches that want to come over here and say I want the head job, you know. I mean, we just don't, you know, and I think that's where the coaches you have would, you know, which I I'm sure they want continue doing what they're doing. So, I think it work out good that way. >> Well, I think it would too because like volleyball for example, I I think uh we have a head coach and so we'll be looking for an assistant. So, I mean it'd be nice, like you said, to have one from each school would be >> three. >> Yeah. And with 30 kids, we'd want three. >> Yeah. It's really nice to have a coach from your school for a sport because
047then they can do the driving for practice. >> Yeah. >> You don't have to hire a driver. That's more expense, >> right? You know, >> I know with the track and cross country, they brought it up at the meeting the other night that those sports wouldn't necessarily need to be practiced even like >> every night. >> No, they wouldn't have to practice together every night. No, >> no. Cross country and track wouldn't you could get away with >> I think the only thing that was really brought up was relays for track to kind of get >> there. You would have to come together, but but I mean you could come together twice a week or whatever. Yeah. >> But having coaches from both schools would benefit too. >> Yeah. Yeah. And we have a track
048coach that's done a good job. >> Yeah. >> And doesn't want to be head. >> Um she hasn't really um said if she wants would want to do that behead or not. I think I don't think she had a problem being co- coach or whatever. But >> we don't have anybody. All I'm curious about is because I mean I heard the statement I have no coaches that want a head position or would but you know the more we can get of this up front and figure this out the better off we're going to be then deal with it during >> track. I haven't specifically talked to her about it or asked her about it you know so I'm not sure. >> Okay. Yeah. on track. Do you find yourselves going to Dickinson for at times
049for getting on a track with equipment and practicing the relay and that or >> they would go up every now and then at Dickinson State. >> Okay. >> To get on an actual track. >> Uhhuh. >> And they would do that every now and then. Maybe once every couple weeks or whenever they get in. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> That's something our track is done. >> Yeah, we do that as well. Yeah. Just curious. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. uh uniforms. We kind of already talked about that. Uh you already talked about home games for contracting officials. Uh and then again where the home game is played, that school is responsible for readying the venue and ensuring that the support staff are there. So ticket takers, concessions, everything out of home is responsible. that school. Uh
050new owner forms and equipment would be made through a bidding process. And then the next section is where where our community uh had a lot of concern was the number of home games between between each of us. So that's something that we definitely need to address and talk about tonight. I know they I mean at at one point it was like uh we brought up right away 50/50 because that's what we talked about in the in the meeting and then uh the also brought up well maybe it should be like a percentage of kids you know one or two games in Hebrrons if there's a low number of kids and then more games if there's a higher number. Uh so I guess what are you guys' thoughts on that? How many home basketball games you
051have for like say versus boys? >> Five. >> Okay. >> We have five or six between boys and girls. Um each >> depending on how many non district nonounting games you pick up. >> I don't know be something like I guess you guys pick up three, we pick up two or whatever. You go, you pick one. Boys take, you know, three out of the five and the girls take three out of the five or whatever. You know, kind of swap it up like that. I I know it's tough cuz we um you know, we're not going to going to be giving you any numbers right away in the basketballs. You know, I think I think we had three for the varsity boys. Maybe four. I would say we're gonna have three total there. >> Our
052programs has suffered because of lack of coaches. >> So in basketball, we have really strong volleyball, really strong track, but the numbers are showing disappointing coach situation >> and the girls, you know, I think I what do you have down there for girls projected? Um it was six >> I think we had what we say we had >> six for us 12 for and six is if there's four eighth grade girls they would be ninth graders next year so that's four of them >> um if they all you know how that is and then there's you know a couple others that have been wanting to play um but you know how that is when you start something new it's like you know you're a little nervous so I don't know how many kids we're not
053going to be contributing a lot of kids I mean right away we're not in in in your varsity levels, but sometimes it's not always quantity, but quality too, you know. >> Um, you know, we do have um some quality there. We just don't have many. >> In talking to parents and stuff, I really feel like you'll see more numbers with better coaches. There there are a lot of kids that didn't go, we have how many girls on the cheerleading squad. That's another thing that's not on here. >> Oh, yeah. >> I mean, the cheerleading squad is very active. They really would like to continue. Um, those that was our girls basketball team, >> but we had a unfortunate coaching event for a couple years. >> So, >> I would hope those girls would go out
054for basketball as cheerleaders. I don't I don't I think they were ruined >> because you wouldn't believe how many if I had a quarter for every time. >> Yeah. >> Been last night at a game again from the other >> from New England, you know. Oh, there's your girls basketball team. Nine cheerleaders out there. >> Yep. >> Haven't had a girls basketball. >> And they really like it, too. That's the problem. They're really enjoying it. >> Yeah. They really like it. those girls that was most of those girls were in my daughter's class and they it was kind of a big old basketball bomb crap show. So maybe that class is like >> Well, I here's how I explain it. My opinion is um >> yeah, >> we didn't have any consistent coaching. We always
055had different coaches. >> Yeah. >> And basically just at at that junior high level, everything else and we got our butts kicked. So it kind of demoralized the girls, you know. >> Yeah. >> And we just never had any consistency. >> And who likes to go out there and get get your get your butt handed to you every night, you know, >> and we just had no consistency. And that's basically where where it came. So I think >> y >> co-op I think that that'll >> change around hopefully. >> I do too. >> Come up. >> You know, it's just going to take a little bit of time. >> The little kids, they don't they just play together. >> They, you know, they don't care. You got a ton of them out when you're in
056fifth and sixth grade and by the time you get to ninth grade, you got about half of them if you're lucky. >> If you're lucky. >> Yeah. >> You know, just just is what it is. It's social event until they start getting to be a little more serious. >> Would the cheerleading be something that would bring over? Are you guys interested in having cheer squad? >> I'm sure we have some girls that would be interested. >> Next offer anyway. >> Yeah, I'm I'm positive we would have some girls. >> Have to buy an extra bust. Well, we have to >> try out >> they know my opinion when we started this cheerleading thing a while back >> the girls >> then I said they're not traveling with the team. >> Home games only. >> Yeah,
057>> I was on many buses when I coached years ago and we had the cheerleaders on there with the players and >> and they take their own bus over to Glenol. >> Not good. A lot of drama and everything else and going to a basketball game. The guys ain't need to have the ladies on the bus. Oh, no. That >> we had them on our bus in my day. >> I know. >> I did too. >> You did, too. >> Remember, >> well, maybe the girls. >> Yeah, >> they kind of got nicked. >> We just Yeah, we just did our home games and >> we let them go to a tournament this year. We had to drive separate. >> There's competition. There's There's cheerleading competitions, too. Sure. I >> mean, it is a competition
058sport if they're um and I think our cheerleader coach, she loves it. >> So, do they participate in the competition cheer? >> Not yet. >> Okay. >> They had to get certified to do their jumps and raise them up and they did all that and they went to camps in the summer and got certified and did all that. So, yeah. >> Well, back to this. I'll share that community feedback here is strong about the quantity of home games wanting to be retained in Richard and Taylor. So that is >> mean like all of them like all >> there there's feedback somewhere in the neighborhood of most to all is how I'll term that and honestly haven't gotten all the feedback there that I'd like to get on it but uh it it is definitely going
059to be a sticky point within the community. So And of course we don't I mean we'd want to have our home games too, you know, keep them. We're not just going to want to give them up and say, "Oh, no more home games than he did." >> So >> because then we we're we're just a satellite school for Richard. >> Yeah, I get you. I mean, just trying to be transparent of >> Sure. >> of what if we don't talk about this stuff, >> right? >> It'll come later be needs to be taken care of. um you know like volleyball if if projected numbers are 15 and 15 then I think you would split the home games my opinion um boys and girls basketball we we have very few we have very few so I
060don't know how and I think that's with the FFA that you guys provide and the other thing that you provide like we're obviously not assuming that your FFA advisor is going to come over to Taylor to >> to be doing the events or the practices or whatever they have, I guess. Um, so that would be I I understand it's not a home game for a crowd, but we we aren't like have trying to have everything, I guess. Um, we are trying to get our community what they're looking for, but I I understand where you guys are coming from, but it's going to go both ways. Like you said, the volleyball is is equal right now. So, >> yeah. Well, in the end though, the agreement, this is very nicely authored through here. And I would
061say that we have to at least get to a point where it is authored and that that needs to be pretty >> pretty well spelled out because just left to well, we'll figure it out as it goes. Probably ain't going to work out very well on that. >> Yeah, >> is one of the areas that's going to have to be ironed out before the pen is stroked. >> Sure. >> You might say, because that is a probably one of the most contentious >> on both sides. on both sides too. So our our constituent or >> people in town too want to know >> that main point is what are we gonna have at games or not? You know >> what's the pulse in Hein on that? Is it 50/50 or were >> Well, that's what
062they would like just being our experience with Glenn Owen. You know, like I said, when we started out, we we just did everything 50/50 and and they had all the players for a number of years and we still did 50/50 and and with everything and then eventually became a lot of Hein players. >> Sure. >> It evened itself out. Is that going to happen here? I don't know. >> You know, you guys have more students than we do so forth. um you know that that's what we we did it and it evened itself out. Um but I know our people would like to at least have some home games of varsity. You know, you have your elderly people that come and you know, you got people that just show up just to watch. >> And
063um I guess in another gym, you know, I guess we considered the Glenn Owen gym a home game, you know. I mean, it's all in your mentality how you look at it. You know, it was a home game. Um, but everybody looks at that different in a different gym. It's not in your gym. >> You know, I guess our biggest thing is um you like I said, we did that with all those years. You know, we changed um you know, we changed colors, we changed mascots here. I mean, we're just asking um you know, we're not asking to change colors. We're not asking to take the Raider mascot. All we're asking is put the H behind the T, you know, and then we'll actually we'll pay half the bill, you know. I think that's pretty
064good deal for you guys. Um Yeah. Yeah. You have more people, but um you know, all we're asking is put the H behind the T, you know. I mean, so the people would like to have, you know, some home games for sure. How many? I don't know how you how you decide that. You know, like I said, we did a 50/50 from the start and it took a little while, get people used to it, but eventually, like I said, evened out. But is that going to happen here? I don't know. >> What if we did like some sort of like the first year it's this many like this percentage in Eber and this percentage in Richardton, the second year it like just keeps going up until it's 5050. I don't know. >> Yeah. I mean,
065I thought of I to >> I don't have a problem. I I I know what you guys are thinking, you know, what you guys have. You know, we just have a few kids playing, but you know, we have, you know, some decent players and their parents like to at least see them play one game on their home on >> on our gym, especially when you get to seniors, especially you get, you know, I mean, it doesn't mean we have to have exact 50/50 split to start, but you know, >> one thing that somebody brought something up to me was right now you don't have any girls basketball games. >> Yeah. I mean, obviously if you had a team, it would be split up, but that was one thing. They're like, "Well, they don't even have
066basketball, so how are we going to give them give up home games?" And I mean, obviously, that's not the expectation, but it was one thing that I heard quite a few times. >> Um, yeah, we've lost revenue, you know, and our concessions and stuff close up because, you know, that's another four home games or whatever. Like this year with our boys, it just worked out. We had eight home games. So, we had four in Hebrin and four in Glenn. >> Oh, >> that worked out really nice. Um, doesn't always work that way. Year before I think we only had six or five. Depends on how you schedule, >> right? >> But right now, you guys only have five a piece. >> I think girls had six and boys have five this year. >> Yeah, it
067just seems like a low number of home games for a season. >> I apologize, but I got to head to Taylor Fireboard me. got double. >> Thanks everybody. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Don't tell anybody that I was supposed to be there, too. >> I've got food in my truck. >> Don't tell them I'm here. >> Well, when uh I kind of thought that was a little low, too, but that's what the the numbers AD gave me. So, I didn't count them up myself. >> Okay. I know we do we do the ref rider tournament both girls and boys and then we do the holiday shootout in >> girls at BSC. Oh, girls. >> Girls haven't done rougher for a couple. >> Oh, they do the uh new sale. >> So, girls do
068the So, there's six games there. >> And that's one thing if if we co-opt um with everything like volleyball, I already have the schedule done for next year. >> But, um if there's anything that your coaches would want to go to, it's already scheduled on our end. They could switch to, >> right? >> You know, sometimes some of those volleyball tournaments, they're tough to get into. And if you're once you're in them, you're in them, you know, and like we played actually we played one at Langden and we played one in Valley City and I mean there's just other options out there there would be that if you wanted to you know do that and same with like boys basketball we're we're always in the Mandan holiday tournament you know that's something that but I
069think you guys got in that BSC tournament this year I believe which >> that shootout. >> Yeah. But I mean there's just some options there, you know. We play in the Jamestown shootout for two days, you know. So it would really be nice. You have some flexibility there if you wanted to change your schedules because it seems like once you get locked in it's or once you not in you can't get in. >> I know someone >> something we were bouncing around too was that maybe we give up one of the tournaments and then that give us some some more home games. >> Yeah. Volleyball because you're limited, you know. Yeah. >> What you can how many Germans you can play and how many >> Right. >> Yeah. So, we played in the most tournaments
070we could this year because you get more you get more games in. >> Right. >> Then we have um with volleyball. It got brought up last night. How many how many kids is too many kids on a team? You know, you got 30 kids on a team. Is that too many to where some kids are going to get left behind because they're not going to get as many skills practice and playing time and that kind of stuff? >> There's three teams. Yeah, you got three teams. We got I think 26 this year, >> you know, that we've had >> um that we've had with just the Glen He and that's never been an issue. >> Um >> you know, um I mean they have C tournaments. You can get the girls in C tournament. They
071have B squad tournaments. So you get them extra games there and get kids extra playing time and stuff. I don't think that would be an issue. You know, you start to get to 40. I don't think that would be >> Yeah. >> You know, but >> but then you know what on that part um this is this is just me speaking um competition is good. It's just um you know not expecting just to show up and I get to play. >> Mhm. >> That's my opinion. You know um you know you you have to work for things. You know when your and your coaches obviously level I don't care who it is and what school they're from. they're going to play their best players. You know, you are cuz you want to win, you know,
072and I just I just feel too many times we got like some of our programs, we barely got enough kids and they don't touch a basketball year and they come back and show up and well, they're going to get a play because we don't have any kids, >> you know. I don't know. That's my opinion. In the parents that I talk to, they're very nervous that their kids that are playing basketball won't be accepted into your basketball program, which is very strong and starts out with, you know, you guys do the leagues and all that stuff and they're like, "My kids will never get to play." You know, they're very worried about that that they won't be accepted because there's just a few of us and a lot of you. Um, a lot of push
073back there. It's like, well, do you want your kid to sit on the bench and play or not play at all? >> Well, and I talked earlier in our meeting that I said it's the opportunity. It's not that it's >> the opportunity. >> Absolutely. >> And that's one of the things we lived in Bismar before we moved here and uh we wanted to move to a smaller town just for the kids to have a better opportunity to play. >> Not that we expected them to get it, but that they had the opportunity to get it. And I think that's something that everybody needs to look at when when it comes to sports and you know anything. >> Yeah. >> A lot to do with training the parents. >> Yeah. >> Like it's about the sport.
074It's not necessarily playing the day of the game. It's playing all week long. You get to go after school and you need to go. We need this physical activity for these kids. We need >> and the parents aren't in the gym during practices watching how their kids acting and what how hard they're working and everything that goes along with playing time. Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> So, educating the parents, but in the parents I spoke to, they're very concerned. >> Well, I think this co-op, >> you know, and I know I'm sure you guys do your girls and your boys basketball. I'm sure they um I'm I'm sure they have team camps and stuff in the summer, open gyms right away in the spring or the summer, you know, I guess our kids that
075would come over and participate. I guess um I guess if you could start building that, >> you know, guess getting rid of all that confidence just like we are tonight here. All of us when we first got here, we're all kind of looking at each other because we don't know each other and um you know, a little nervous and stuff, but um once you get them together and and get that chemistry and start, you know, I think that would be the a coach thing where they'd have to, you know, invite them and introduce them and get them playing together and get to know each other. And I think that would start in the summer. so that when the season comes because I know like our boys program they've they they've gone to many team camps
076in the summer and um our our booster club has been very generous on you know helping out they go to South Dakota they've gone all over um and u and volleyball goes to camps too so that'll ease a lot of tension too if that's going on if you guys are having that >> other than showing up on the first day of practice. >> Yeah. >> You know football too. Gota can't forget about football over there. >> We try to forget about >> Yeah, guys. I I just share that like with the PE Well, my son's a fifth grader. Um we do the Pee-Wee football um over there and and now this this winter here there was interest in a a fifth grade traveling team and the Richmond kids didn't couldn't get enough together. So, a
077few of the parents reached out to us to see if there's any kids from Hein that would like to play with them. Um, and it's been I've watched a few of their practices and it's it's pretty seamless. There's no Hein versus Richard dynamic at all. So, I mean, getting them started together younger, I mean, it seems like the ones that the problems will be with the older kids, especially at the start, but you know, as these kids have gotten started, like in football in fourth grade already, it's like the concept of a one versus the other thing doesn't even exist to those kids. >> Well, I think it's a little bit different now than when I was younger anyway. It was and and maybe this is more of a class B thing because I grew
078up class A, but the communities that are next to each other, those kids still interact outside of athletics and outside of their things. >> Snapchats. >> Yeah. >> I mean, and that's >> Yeah. >> Whether it be Kildier or Mott or New Salem, wherever. Um I know my girls are friends with a lot of kids that they compete against. And I don't I don't think that's as big of an issue anymore as it was well whether it was class A or whether it was our age. I'm not sure how it was, you know, for class B schools, but I think that it's not going to be as difficult of a transition as we might be thinking. >> I had a mother tell me that from another school over to the to the west that they
079they are co-oping. She says it's best thing they ever did. She said, "It is harder on the parents than on the kids." >> It's harder to get the parents out of that mindset than to get the kids out of that mindset. And I thought, >> "Oh my goodness, you're so right. >> You're so right." >> Yeah. >> Well, and that I mean, and I think it starts with the coaches, too, because I mean, it's not our kids and their kids. It's >> everything is this is my team. These are our kids. >> Yeah. >> It doesn't matter where they're from or I mean, it is a mindset thing. >> Yeah. And I know both of our basketball coaches, well, all of our coaches, I mean, uh, they're going to play who they think is going
080to help them win. >> So whether it's Heen, Richard, Taylor, wherever the kid lives, it's it's not going to matter. >> Yeah. I just think with our girls, we just haven't had a program in a couple years. >> And so we have, you know, we just haven't had girls participating. You don't have the skills. >> Yeah. Yeah, I think some of them are a little nervous, >> you know, especially the older ones. >> You know, the eighth graders, they could hop right in as ninth graders. I wouldn't be, but like couple other girls that haven't played, I don't know if they'll go out or not, but you know, that's what happens. We don't have a program. And um, you know, like I said, that's why we, you know, we just appreciate you guys. We just,
081you know, given this opportunity here to visit with you because we just want a place for our kids to play, you know. I know, you know, it's one or two or 10, whatever, but um it um it's tough to not have a girls basketball team for two years >> and um you know, it's tough and lose all that equity you built in a >> girls program. I mean, it's pretty much gone. >> Yeah. >> So, back to the I was just gonna say, let's Yeah. How do you guys as a Richard school board feel about the games, home games? I mean, are you leaning one way or the other as a school board? >> Well, I would say ultimately we're trying to do best by what our people that elected us to do. So, I
082think we're trying to do as not I'm not saying that we're going to hold it 100% this is the way we're drawing the line, but I think we are expected to do what our parents and in our communities are asking of us and we sent out stuff to them to try to get as much information from all the parents as we could. So, I think that's where I'm at on it. So, back to that point, is it just the ones talking loudest that you're listening to, or is it a a whole group, you know, of every parent what the feel is? Because we find that out, too. The pe the smallest group that talks the loudest, you think that's the representation of everybody, and it's not. So, what I'll tell you is this the survey
083that we sent out um there was 176 people that um responded to it >> and it was anonymous >> and um it asked that's cost the question was um about the numbers um about where we're going to do games and you know whatever else and there this one was 178 Sorry. Um, and oh shoot, that's the wrong one, too. I thought that was page two. Oh, how should home games be handled? That's the one. Um, yeah, how how home games should be handled? Um and the the four options were um an even split between communities based on the student numbers mostly at Richardton and then other um and just over 50% said mostly at Richardton um 21% based said based on numbers even split was 11% and other was 17%. and other it was some
084of them said only at Richardton. We should have all games at Richardton. So I I feel like that's the way most of the ones that went other games at Richardton >> because we let them fill out comments after that as well >> and I don't think that's a realistic expectation. Um I mean obviously in a perfect world we want to keep all of our games here. Uh and I just don't think I don't think it's realistic. I mean, like you said earlier, yeah, right now you may not have the numbers, but in a few years maybe we won't have the numbers. >> Yeah. >> Splits and then say we won all the games and you're like on the other end of it. >> There'd be a lot of contention over that then. And and so
085it's difficult to put a number on it. Um but it's >> hard to not listen to the people that elected us too. >> Yeah. No, I mean if it was the other foot other shoe on the foot, I mean, we'd probably be the same way in our community. >> It's no different. >> The but the based on numbers, you know, that kind of would be a way for us to say, well, if we have more numbers, we get more home games if they have, you know, that would be almost a compromise on both sides. >> Okay. Okay. But then you say based off numbers and you bring three boys, you have one game. >> One I mean if we if that's the way >> well or say a minimum >> minimum of two games and
086then >> I have no problems going if we have five home games between the two schools. You guys get three, we take two. I mean >> what if there's six or seven? I mean because it's not >> Well, we've had how many? You said eight. We had eight. >> It just depends on year to year. >> Just a year. So, I mean that that varies, but I mean do you set a minimum of at least two games at the home school? If you got a minimum amount of kids, if it gets to equal kids in the sport, do you do 50/50 and keep it at that even though um you know, and it switches the other way and that school gets a couple more because they got more kids, you know, say it goes to
087Hein one year. Would that be an equitable fair thing to do? >> I think the co-op is hard on people, especially with the in the older grades. It's like our actual schools co-opted when I was a senior and that was super hard. But now, >> how many years ago I graduated to now? Like now it's not the same. So, >> how many years? >> I don't know. I'm not >> He said it under his breath bring it to >> Yeah. >> So, I think it it is that less than me. It it is very difficult for the older kids, juniors, seniors when you start a co-op. >> I think at the community meeting that was it with the old like those younger kids and everything else like Justin was saying they don't they start playing
088together and continue on. They don't know any you know >> but it's always harder on those older kids >> where you finish >> kind of. Yeah. >> But now I think though if you're talking boys basketball I don't know how many boys played basketball played football. My son played football when he was in high school and he knew all the kids over he played baseball over here in Richardton so he knew all these kids and then turned around played basketball against them you know and he was friends with all the those friendships were built you know and so I mean if we have kids that are playing football together then they're you know getting into basketball together and that kind of stuff like that. Yes. It's hard on I mean it's you know we're talking
089about you know I mean if we're bringing say next year you know we got three boys in the varsity 9 through 12 you guys have 25 28 that's filling up three teams you know and I mean yeah we don't have a ton but volleyball we have 15 girls you have 15 girls playing I mean we had our our girls were good players you know and so I mean we can build a program and yes is it going to be a little difficult for uh the juniors, the seniors, yes, maybe the juniors, and as they get younger, it's going to be less and less difficult. >> That's why I brought up the suggestion of like the first year it's this percentage or second year this percentage and hopefully get to that 50% because then it would
090be, you know, >> hopefully less hard on those with older kids and more of a gradual. >> Are are the elementary and junior high will they be split 50/50? >> I don't know. >> Yeah, we >> I think so. Definitely the varsity that they were like about those with the older kids. >> Okay. >> I I I like that line of thinking. >> And if we're looking at a co-op here in a long-term game, right? >> Like working towards a common goal. >> Yeah. >> I don't see a problem with that either. I mean, I'm just myself, >> but yeah. Why couldn't we start out here and work towards an even split? >> But I think that during our meeting it was a lot of conversation on the on the home teams and and like
091you had said myin earlier it's a lot of people are going to consider going to Hein in a way game but it's not it's a home game and you know the the home the home field advantage isn't the court you're playing on it's the fans that are there. It's the It's everything else besides where you play. So, it's And but getting to that mindset might take >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I totally agree. Think there's going to have to be some kind of compromise on that. >> Yeah. Because we have our people we have to think about. You have your people. There has to be >> I don't think it's realistic to have 100% of the home games in Like that's not I don't think that's realistic. That's just what the service and
092what I >> back to your how I mean if we go for a year after year increasing it >> does that match the numbers or I mean >> no we match it that way >> like the first year it's this percentage here this percentage there the second year it's this percentage and this percentage till it gets to like the 50% whether that be in three years or four years or however we want to do it >> no matter what the numbers are >> yeah I don't know that was just an idea that I See, I think that might be >> seem fair. I mean, we're in essence, I know you're not going to you're not going to be able to tell a parent that's going to come here and and for lack of better words,
093piss and moan because they got to drive to Hein for a basketball game that Hebrin is paying for half of this co-op, >> you know, and not that that, you know what I mean? It's not like we're not contributing more than or three players. Well, it's it's more than three players. It's more than that kind of stuff, you know. >> Um, and I think that >> moving it, >> you know, in that kind of a way, moving it up to that that 50/50 split, I think would be a, >> you know, would be a fair thing. You having a stepped up like that. And I think then just once it reaches 50/50, it >> nobody's going to stay >> and it'll be a fair, >> you know, >> Yeah. You know, it's brought up too,
094you know, the mileage between, you know, going over to Hein. Well, you know, it was brought up too, Taylor is only like three or four miles closer than Hein is. So, it's like >> Yeah. I think what what I had heard is Richard is centrally located is the way they were looking at it. It's in between Hein. It's in between Taylor and Gladstone and and Dickinson. We pull a lot of kids out of Dickinson and that that was their selling point. So I I don't know like we traveled hours to go to other games and >> will the >> they cher >> who will be practicing in Taylor like where the little kids have to go to Taylor for practices >> currently what we do is uh elementary practices in Taylor uh junior high for
095the most part practices in Taylor but then they uh if the gym's open here they'll practice But I mean that's that will change because now I mean you'll gain two more gyms and we'll gain one more gym. So I mean it I think practices are going to be a lot you might have to be farther away from home but you're still going to finish before you normally would because more more students can practice at the same time which gets them off sooner. I think that's big big concern with their parents is their kids getting home so late and then they're like, well, they're going to have to go clear to Taylor and they're not going to get home until 7:30. And >> how far is it from? >> 15 miles 14 or 15. >> 12
096miles. >> Well, you would know. >> Yep. 12 miles. >> It's just a morale further here, right? >> I think it's 13 or 14. >> Is it 14 to here? two months in >> when we first met with ads and stuff and we talked we talked about with that mileage um our practices you know we could work it out where you know like when the practice would be in Taylor say for elementary with the time change our kids would get out of school maybe have half an hour off and that's where some of our parents were you know it's tough because you got a half hour off but then they could head over and when your kids get out of school over there, they could start practice right away, >> right? >> You know, >>
097and then when practice would be in Hebrew and say elementary, um, then our kids would have, you know, probably an hour and 15 minutes off, but they'd come back. But what I'm getting at is they'd all end at the same time, >> right? You know, like right now when we have with our we have two gyms between us and GL, but during the season when we have um the junior high boys and junior high girls having practice and then the varsity boys and we haven't even had the varsity girls, but we always had one of the teams had to practice late >> from 5:30 to 7:30. >> Wow. >> That would be eliminated, >> you know, so those junior high kids wouldn't have to practice till 7:30. The latest would be, you know, probably 6:30.
098>> Yeah. So it's kind of a tradeoff there. It's not much >> they'll still be getting that sevenish >> even if they go to Taylor or what where because I've had that question like >> well if we go to Taylor they practice elementary usually what an hour and a half >> because it's a short >> you practice at 4:30 our time. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Practices are shorter right? >> 4:30 to 6 hour and a half practice our time. Central time. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And then 6:30 travel home, be home by 7:00. >> You'd be home at 7. >> Well, yeah. It'd be about 6:30. You do an hour and a half practice by time you get home. >> You start practice at 4:30. >> Yeah. Hour and a half. >> Hour and a
099half. 6. And then half hour home. >> 6:30. >> Yeah. Be about 6:30. The other thing that got brought up too was maybe keeping elementary separate just because of >> the time change and >> traveling >> and the numbers. There was lots >> and the numbers >> there's lots >> because there's lots of kids and so then you need more coaches and you need the gym space and you need everything else that goes along with that >> and managing that many little minds at that for a coach is a lot >> a lot. And just when you have that many kids at that age level, it's hard to build like good foundational skills >> for when they get in those upper grades. >> Didn't you say with this co-op, the elementary kids aren't considered as
100part of it anyway? >> They're not. Yeah, >> that's a whole separate deal anyway. So like in the case where they ask the fifth grade kids to come over and help out, they can. We're short. They can always do that, too. >> Yeah. And that's I guess what we talked about during the community meeting too is maybe like we still have our elementary teams are separate. However, if we don't have enough to fill a team or you don't have enough to fill a team, then we come over for or whatever it may be >> yearby-year basis. >> Yeah. >> No, but see, I think it would be the programs that start seventh and eighth grade. Definitely will. >> Yeah. That's when they start getting nasty. >> Well, I'm not I don't care if they're nasty.
101That is one that people start playing together. >> You start playing together because then they'll, you know, bond, >> you start getting with the boys basketball practices. >> Since you've only got three and we got 25, it would make a lot more sense to keep the varsity practices in our gym. >> And you bust three and rather than us busting 25, right? >> I would think. >> As far as practices, you guys aren't super concerned where practices are at. >> No. Um, what we usually do is when we have if we're going to have a game in Hebrin, we usually have them practicing at least the day before in Hebrin or at least a couple days. So, you're shooting in the gym you're going to be playing in. >> Okay. >> Always done that. We
102always done that. Yeah. >> Yeah. That is your home court, too. >> Yeah. That's what we've done. >> And again, as that evolves, you can always make changes as far as where practices are and everything else. What we did was we did the 50/50 thing for practice too. Sit down and go through the whole schedule and you know when you're doing your practices then tally them up at the end how many is in how many you know with each of the sports that's what we did but doesn't mean that has to be done here but we always try to have an even but then we had a whole 50/50 split for games and everything. So then, you know, if a game was in Glennon, girls game, we'd make sure they practice at least a day
103or two right before the game. And same with Hebrin. >> And with the time change, it may be handy to bring some of >> Oh, our kids would be here when just like football. >> Yeah. >> You guys get out of school. Our kids are here already. >> Yeah. >> Our one kid. >> Hope hopefully that'll get better though. >> I really think it will once the boys start playing together, basketball, other stuff, and then they start developing those friendships. pretty soon. >> It's like, "Hey, why don't you play football?" You're just playing basketball, you know, >> till they meet their coach. >> Yeah. Right. Coach is >> I think that'll We've got I think we got nine now for pee-wee football right now and five in junior high. So, that's hopefully they can continue
104that then >> by playing with each other in basketball, too. >> You guys don't have cross country on here. You know how many cross country kids you got? Next year, I don't know if we're going to really have any at all. Couple that was one thing like our cross country girls, they said they can't get a team together. Like there's only two or three girls. Is that what it was? So >> they need five. >> Yeah. I don't know if we'd have three. We might have couple. But >> when is when's the cross country season? >> Same as football. August start. Yeah. >> Oh, so same as volleyball. Way more fun to punch a ball than to run. >> True. Oh, look at all the kids in volleyball. There's a million of them. >> Yeah.
105>> Well, I I getting back to this, I guess. What's everybody's thoughts as far as home games? I like the idea of the percentage >> I'm building a percentage you know and then >> building up the toable >> you know then the million dollar question is where do you start the percentage and how do you increase it >> you know >> that was just my idea you can figure out the rest >> like you said is there ways to work it around where like you do less tournaments and have more home games that would make it easier because if you only got five home games that makes it tough right >> if you had aids it'd be a lot easier Okay, we can do two, you do six, >> you know, but we don't have
106five or six. >> That's a lot easier to sell one. >> Yeah. Yeah, it is. >> Yeah, it is. >> I agree. >> Yeah. I guess that's something that could be looked at in the scheduling. >> Mhm. >> The number guy over there yet. So, >> it was her idea. So, >> I don't really >> hero down 80 20 60 40 50. >> Sounds sounds very rational, right? >> Sounds like something we could sell on both sides to our people. So the first year you're looking at >> is that I guess that sounds >> typically how long when when you sign one of these co-ops, how long Are we like committed to it? >> Three years. Three years. >> It's three years. We commit for three years because I've had people ask me, "Well, yeah,
107we do it one year and then they get a huge influx of people and now we're class A." >> Did anybody bring that up? >> That's definitely >> And the oil fields starting to pull out. I don't >> That's what I said, too. I mean, I know you're getting the new business here, but the oil field's dropping like flies >> and they're one thing about the oil field is you never know when it's going to come back. >> When it's going to come back. So, I have had parents say, "Well, yeah, well, what if we push them into class A and then they tell us to get out? They don't want us because they don't want to be class A." That's been brought up to me. Well, but on the projected numbers right now it's
108right now years eight nine years down the road. >> And then those numbers, if I'm thinking it right, it's from the previous year, right? >> Yeah. >> So, I mean there even if we go over that limit, we would still play that year in the division we are until >> and you always have that one thing I guess I should mention. They always have the option to send a petition to opt down. Like if you're if you're not real competitive in in your class B in a sport and then you you're just barely over the limit of which we would be, you can petition to opt out. >> I think they asked and they've had it approved zero times. >> They have. They have. >> Right now they have >> less than one. >> Yeah.
109The high school team associate is pretty tough on that. >> Yeah. Well, they must have approved one because Minnowan, I think, was 166 enrollment and they're playing division B. That's over 162. >> Okay. But was it because their numbers last year were under? >> Oh, that I don't know. Could be. >> Well, just like Bowman just keep it at 161 every year. Oh, they do that. Yeah, there's, >> you know, 163 over every year. They got I look every year 161 home. You gota be Don't tell me you're graduating seniors and then you're bringing in your kids taking out 18 whatever you're nth grade. I mean you're bringing in your ninth grade and and you know the same exact amount every year. I don't know how that they take it off of the >> Department
110of Public Construction, you know, DPI website and that because it's how you get paid. So I wouldn't think they'd want to fib on that. No. It wasn't 12 student. >> So we're just it's kind of like a I mean it's a risk you got to take. >> So we're at So it's 162 is the cut off. >> 162.5. I don't know why they have half a cake. >> Yeah. Do you see a little bit this way? A little bit that way. So and we're at >> 40, right? 42. >> 44 this year I believe. >> 44. >> Yeah. We're at 90. >> And we had that sheet here. Well, we went over this before I put it. >> We're about 30 students away. >> Yeah, we're at about 34. So, a little less than 30.
111>> Like, yeah, next year it'd be 131 total. Then it goes to 153 27 28 139 140 142 148 160. Then 3334 was at at 167 would put us over. >> What are they getting? Why is it increasing. >> They're taking all our numbers, >> all of our numbers and just kids and moving them all forward. That's if all the kids stay >> that are here now. >> And none of them >> we don't get any money or we don't lose any, >> you know. So it's a projection. >> Okay. That's >> gives you a little bit of an idea. >> And you said it was eight years until >> you you would possibly have to >> and then eight years that >> Yeah, I was going to say. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. There there
112is a lot of behavior. >> Mhm. >> How often? >> This is only our what third year with three divisions. So >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. It's very changing. >> Hopefully not as often as football. >> They're always changing that one. >> Yeah, it's a three year. >> The first three years >> both schools would have to approve it to dissolve it. After three years, just one school can dissolve co-op. >> So it still is dissolvable by both schools. >> If both schools both schools would want to do that to three, >> you know, you get into a co-op, I would sure hope we would. We're looking at long term here, you know. >> Yeah. And assuming that our numbers don't grow, I don't think it's ever going to be an issue either because >>
113they're long you know, at times, you know, >> yeah, >> the ones that's going to benefit is the little kids >> the most. It's going to benefit everybody. I >> I really believe that. But I think the little kids are especially down lower, you know, when they they're together and they start playing together at a younger age and um all of a sudden we stop after five years or six years. That that would be tough. That' be tough >> because you start really developing friendships and everything else the kids do. But I've just I was part of this club when it started. Actually, I coached basketball when it started. Um I was assistant for the varsity and um it was when all the kids were playing hardly any. So I've seen how it can change.
114you know, took some time, but um eventually down the road and then how the kids become entwined with each other and um we always said when we started that that it's um it's not for now or next year. you know, we have numbers to do that, but it's the years down the road is where it's going to really benefit everyone because um hopefully you'll see it then where we have a 50/50 split playing. >> You know, is that going to happen? I don't know. But >> you guys co-op for wrestling. We had a co-op, but we don't have any wrestlers. >> So, you have no wrestlers now? >> Golf? >> We do not. Or do we have a co-op with golf to Dickinson? >> I know we do softball. Girl softball. >> You do? >>
115Yeah. >> Yep. >> Okay. I was just going to ask that because I know we I think we'd have some girls interested in softball. >> Yeah. And there's some kids coming up that are little wrestlers, too, that are >> We have wrestlers. I don't know what it takes to get a wrestling team together, but >> I know we have a community gentleman who's starting a a little kids program in town. Uh we co-op. We have one girl uh goes to Dickinson, too, for hockey. >> Oh, >> girls hockey. >> And then you have speech and drama. >> Yep. One act, please. >> Student Congress. Any kids that want to shoot archer trap? >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> There's your coach. >> Yeah. >> Come over and recruit. >> Yeah. >> But I think we
116need to need to narrow down here with how you want to do that. Games, home games. I mean, >> are you guys okay with that three tier percentage? >> Do we need a motion and a vote? >> No, we're not to do that. >> Nothing today. >> I I I'mable with that. >> That's going to be a contentious issue for you guys. I watched your I watched your matter. >> I watched your meeting last night. >> No matter what we do by everybody. >> I think first year 8020 >> would play some people. I mean that could, you know, I mean that's a healthy percentage of staying here in Richard. You know >> that Yeah. And >> that might only be one game. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know. Well, when I look at our
117girls, I don't know how many girls we're going to have, if we're going to have any. Um, do we just do one game, one home game? >> Go for Hebrew. >> Well, we'll get at least one, right? Even if there's only five games, we'll get at least one game. >> No, we there has to be a compromise. Either we have one game or we have none, which is what we've had for two years. I mean, so that is a it is a point, but but that won't always be the case once there's coaches. I I think that's a great idea. >> Thanks. When my phone rings tonight, I'll send it your way. I'm just hoping we don't get like mailbox bombs and stuff like that, >> you know. Yeah, these decisions are difficult. >> You
118know, they are. It's dang if you dang if you don't. But um you know it it's giving kids opportunities and that's what we're elected here to do. I guess I mean we're coming to you guys but it's ultimately do you guys want this co-op to be a a formable thing and to be a formable thing. You can't just say it's all us or nothing. >> I mean that's what it comes down to. So, >> I mean, >> you guys got all the chips right now, but we still have to say 10 years we're going to be a strong co-op. We're going to be kicking butt in every sport. We got kids going out. And how do you do that? By giving each school their, you know, recognition. >> So, does this work for you? >>
119Um, yeah. I mean, this is I mean, I understand maybe this easing into the games thing is fine because we don't have I mean, if we had the same amount of numbers coming to you as you had to me, I'd say we just got to keep it 5050, but you guys got the stronger programs right now um in five years, it might be 50/50 then and then we can but it might work out just perfect. >> Well, I think our strongest opponents to it would be our senior parents and this phases it out slower and then the kids coming up from there are just understand that 50% for the parents. I guess the parents are going to be understanding that it's going to be 50/50 if this is the way we end up >> going,
120>> right? >> And it'll be a lot lot less heartburn, I think. >> Yes. >> Than all at once. >> Yep. >> And and then also those elementary kids and junior high kids, they they'll start playing games over in Hein, so they'll be used to it, >> you know, in both gyms. >> If that's what we well, elementary or however we do that or junior high, I would hope we'd have they'd split the junior high games. I would hope, you know, um, between the two schools. I don't know what your patrons are thinking on that or if it's just more of the varsity thinking, >> more varsity, >> you know, >> more high school. >> But once those kids start coming up and they they've it's just second nature. I think you want the younger
121kids to play both places to get them used to the idea because by the time they're in varsity, you know, hopefully it is a 50/50 then like this plan does. So are you guys are fine with that? >> Yeah. >> So if there was a situation where let's say something happens and you don't have any girls go out for basketball, >> I would assume we're not going to have a basketball game there. >> No, I wouldn't. >> I mean, I'd be fine with that if we don't have any kids in that sport. doesn't pay to have the >> No, >> absolutely. >> And that could happen. >> Yeah. I just throwing it out there. >> Yeah. >> It does happen. It's going to take some time to get our >> program going again, you know,
122get some of those kids >> and it's like two or football. We don't have a football field. So, we wouldn't I mean, we've come over here for so many years that >> we're asking do you do you know when that co-op with football started? >> It was when I was in high school. >> I think somebody said 84. Maybe not. late 90s. >> Early graduated in 2000. >> Yeah. I had games. >> Okay. I think the rest we kind of talked about on and off throughout uh talks about how to how to do their rec reconciliation but that's going to change depending upon what the business managers how they want to handle it. Uh amending co-op just saying that if we want to amend it it would take we could amend it but then it's
123not going to take place until the following year. But I mean, we're not signing this anyway, so I guess we talked a little bit about coaches and hiring. So, article nine, page seven, bottom of page seven talks about that head coaches, uh, the superintendent of each school and both athletic directors may interview and hire the coaching staff. Evaluation of the head coaches will be done by both athletic directors. And it's the head coach's responsibility to inventory their equipment and submit requests for new equipment, whatever. I guess I'd like to talk about the second most contentious question on here is the volleyball co-op if we call if co-op volleyball because that's where we both have numbers and um track. Um but it sounds like track we're not going to have the numbers next year, right? Because
124we've got like what we had 40 >> Yeah, we have we have numbers for track for a couple years. >> Okay. >> But I think with track that just strengthens a team to go against a Bowman, against a Kilder, against a bigger school, right? You can do some relay that you weren't able to do before, right? Because we have enough kids. >> Yeah. Highest place that we could have gotten in the last few years is four just because we don't have relays. >> Yeah. >> So then back to volleyball is what's everybody's opinion on co-oping that or waiting till the numbers go down or and all well also elementary too. I mean, we talked about that earlier. Just because there is so many kids all the time, keeping that separate until junior high, it was
125both. >> I mean, if we did volleyball where we wait this year, you know, don't pay the fine, wait, you know, do the agreement for the 27 season because it looks like your junior high volleyball kind of drops off a little bit. >> Yeah. >> So, you I don't know how many seniors you're graduating this year. >> Yeah. I guess that's that's a question to ask there. I I think the next two years our volleyball with Hebrew is right around 26 for the next couple years. Um you know they would have more than us I believe. >> Well and here's the other thing. I mean if you go to Glenn Allen and you say we're doing everything except for volleyball. Are they going to be like okay you know what I mean? >> Yeah. >>
126And are we just delaying the inevitable? Well, if you don't go with us for volleyball, are you going to still co-op up with Glenn Olen and keep that team together? Are you guys going to have your own just Hebrin team then? >> Oh, it would be it would have to be together. >> It' be together. Yeah, >> I would see if that's a >> because that was the other thing I brought up too is if you have girls competing against each other in volleyball and then it comes to basketball season, are you going to have them where they were competing against each other now competing with each other? >> Yeah. the seasons aren't >> I had a break >> I had a parent at the meeting after the meeting talk to me about that is
127saying you know if you don't do everything at once then you're going to have that have volleyball they're competing against each other and then basketball they're with each other >> you see I don't understand why we would want to >> not bring the girls over to play volleyball >> if we don't have a ton of seniors >> and we would have the same numbers I mean based upon these projections we got 30 if you're saying we have What's the difference? I mean, if you have I mean, you could fill out a you know, your A, B, and C squads. These kids are getting to play. They're learning the game of volleyball as they progress through school seniors. And I mean, you you build a strong team. You you continue to build a strong team. I
128think that waiting I I don't see an advantage in it in my opinion, but you know, I don't know that we have a senior volleyball. >> They were they were all on our juniors were all on I don't think we have a senior. The big class is the sophomore class. >> Sophomore girls. >> Yeah. >> And at that point they'd all be over here by then anyway in a year from now. >> Yeah. >> My opinion is $500 fine that we would have to pay as minimal, you know. I mean just >> Oh, agreed. I just thought that that would be if that was the option, you know. >> Okay. I just didn't because that's what one of our strongest sports right now. >> Yeah. >> So, we want to make sure we do that
129one right. >> Well, we got a pretty good team, too. >> We got a pretty good You do good. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. You guys are tough, too. >> Yeah. >> It'd be nice to snag our coaches and bring them with us, but I don't know. I don't know. >> Well, but the one girl works in Dickinson. The the junior the JV coach, right? Doesn't she work in Dickson? Lives in, >> I believe. So, >> we had a really good program. It's It is hard to leave that. >> Yep. >> But I agree. And then as far as elementary goes, I mean I that's not obviously a decision we have to make right away because that's not part of the >> you know if we feel like >> there's enough to make two teams
130or if we need to move kids around or whatever we can decide that as we >> and and as administration we discussed elementary before um you know like Trinity and the Bow and stuff they have like two fifth grade teams >> right? you know, one they play in the same night, one will play at home and one will play away, you know, and just have two teams. So, all the kids are getting play time, >> you know, and because you still can schedule all the game enough games, right? >> You got more travel, >> but you're still >> Yeah, cuz that was the equal play time, right? >> Right. >> For for elementary and then >> the junior high kids, do they get equal play time or is that a thing at your school? I
131guess what what we do here elementary we want equal playing time. >> Uh junior high we try to as best as we can but like tournaments and stuff I mean we want the kids to to win too. So >> okay >> maybe not so much at a tournament but regular games we try for equal play. >> Well it's in our it's in our policy. I don't know if you have that in like your athletics policy, >> you know, to then as it gets up into the ninth and says playing time is, you know, as you get into those older and get up in par it kind of lays it out. >> Yeah, that's the way. >> I guess we'd have to probably have that the same. >> Yeah. >> But it just lays out when
132they get older, it's, you know, they're going to play your better players, >> right? >> You know, is what it is. You know, hopefully you've put time in where you can be one of those better players. You know, I know it's always contentious with parents. Yeah. >> Uh, with volleyball, how about cross country? Because we would owe fine on that too if we go together. >> I would say you just do that, too. >> Yeah. Do it all. >> Yeah. I don't know what we >> I don't think we would be able to do this year because I think we've already missed that deadline. >> Have to be. >> Yeah. >> And um not sure about >> Well, you have to end of the season. >> You have to end of the season. started yet.
133>> Oh, I was thinking. >> Yeah. >> Cross country and volleyball. >> What? >> Yeah, there'd be a couple. >> So, is speech and drama part of this? >> I would say contract. >> I mean, is it a part of this contract? Not not like the elementary? >> I think or can you come? >> Yeah. Well, it would have to be uh >> because it's part of the high school activities association. Anything that's part of the high school activities would have to >> have to go in that app. >> Yeah. >> So what's that all include? Do you know >> 1X >> FFA? >> All the sports. >> No, I don't know. Is FFA >> I don't think FFA >> I don't think they're part of the FFA. >> To be an FFA, your kids
134would have to take an AD class. So they have to do an IT. >> Yeah. They know. >> And then is the archery and trap that's not part of that separate? >> Yeah, that's separate from school. That would be part of this agreement. No, >> but we can still close them all. >> So, yeah, I'm sure there's >> Yeah, I bet we have some kids that want to do that. >> Oh, yeah. >> My My daughter did 4 archery. Long way to go, man. Dan. >> Okay. >> You're going to have to go to that big red building up here. >> But we can convince her. >> I think there's some kids. >> Oh, yeah. That's over. >> Is that a thing too? >> Yeah. through there. >> That's But there we didn't have a
135team, did we? >> No, >> but that would have to be put in a >> You know, >> I think we you could just narrow it down by saying all high school activities association. >> Yeah. All activities that are >> under North Dakota High School association, you know, >> governing body, whatever, however you want to word it. Yeah. >> Right. Is there a chance we could get a list of all those? >> I think it's online. >> It's online. The high school activity association. >> Yeah, if you go to NDHSAA be nice for our two schools to be able to come together and get a wrestling team. >> That would be >> cool for for both towns. >> Yeah, I think that's if you do a blanket deal involved >> association. I'm just saying that
136maybe with our wrestlers and few kids you have, maybe a team could get put together by the time, you know, and it might take a year or two, but >> Well, Russ and I would have to get that application together and >> Yeah. >> You know, >> and >> I think you just kind of fill it out for everything. >> Yeah. >> Unless the only thing >> if there's like Well, I don't think we have anybody playing softball right now because my girl neither one of my girls play anymore, but >> Yeah. No. Just the hockey is the only one that's going to Dickson. >> So I don't know how that end of it looks. >> Yeah. >> Co-op wise. So does if we co-op with them, would that co-op be good with Dickinson or
137is that something you have to revisit? I would assume you'd have to revisit. >> Oh, you guys are playing at Dickinson now >> for hockey. >> Yeah. For hockey and then in softball, too. >> Well, we have a co-op with them. >> Okay. >> That we use they would have to approve us, >> right? >> Yeah. you know, if we had any interest. I don't know. >> Those are things you can >> Yeah. So, I don't think I don't think if you say all Well, I mean, if you say all in our agreement, but >> yeah, >> you know, obviously there's a few that are going to be admitted. >> So, I guess what's the timeline? How you guys, you know, are you guys going to meet with your community again? Are you you know
138I guess we're just kind of I'm just myself looking at a at a timeline here. You know basketball girls and boys you know that's got to be done by middle of March. >> Um the girls actually I think their tournament this year is at the end of February already. So tournament >> really. Yeah. So, I mean, if I'm a girls basketball without getting that $500 fine, that almost have to be at unless you call a special meeting, it almost have to be at next week's board meeting. >> Yeah. To get all this all the details, finalized before that and the contracts and everything where it says everything that we've talked about tonight. I think that time >> next week's not going to be pliable. >> Yeah, >> that's fine. We just got to call a
139special meeting to get it done before the girls. >> I mean, I'm fine with having a special meeting. >> I think that's doable for us to >> just doing it right. >> I think but for the application though, they don't care about what we're doing for practices, what we're doing for home games or anything like that. That's all going to be a discussion that we all have together. Whereas the application, I don't know if you'd approve it at the February meeting or not that yes, this is what we're doing. >> I think you still want to iron everything out. I would be in favor of having a special meeting for it. >> Yeah. >> Once we get everything ironed out, I mean, if we have till the end of February, I know it's less than
140a month away, but at least it gives us a little time to go back and forth about >> Yes. Exactly. >> verbiage and everything else and make sure both sides agree. >> Yeah. >> And I think that's a lot to pack in in a week. No, I agree. >> Absolutely. >> You want to do it right. >> Okay. >> Anything else? >> Oh, that's all things that were brought up to me. >> I think we backed out a bunch here for sure. Mhm. >> And you know, either way you look at it, we're going to have some people that are going to be happy. It's not a bunch, but we will have some. >> I think for us, whether we do it or we don't do it, we're going to have people upset. >> Yeah,
141exactly. That's what I was getting at. Jess is going to take some. >> Okay. Does anybody have anything else? Meeting adjourned. Okay. >> Thank you everybody. Thank you guys. >> Thank you.