001Okay, I started recording again. >> Okay, so um for 11 yards of concrete, so I did the inner tube diameter of 18 in and then out to 5T. So >> So 5t. >> I just did that on the high side because those holes are so big. I'm not saying that we need a water. >> So we saying two and a half to each side or we saying from the outside edge? two and a half from the center of the pole >> on each side. And that's that's what I estimated it for. If they backfilled their trenches, you know, up to that to make that hole a little bit smaller and the thing was like this, that's totally fine in my opinion. >> Um, so I so I got um 10 and a half yards of
002concrete and a concrete truck um full is 11 yards. So that's perfect. So it's one truck. Free order 11 yards. One truck is um $1,760. Um so >> do you know who this was from? What kind? What was it from? A supplier. >> Yeah. Coleman. >> Where are they at? >> Yeah. I mean we could call right next too and get a price from them, but that's that's gives us an estimate. >> Yeah, that's at $160 a yard. >> So, probably another 2,000 on top. >> Correct. >> I would say I would say considering the liability and the possibility of them falling over, I feel more much more comfortable putting concrete in. >> So, they do have some concrete coming in. >> I think that was just for that coverage. >> So, it's not a
003truck coming in. >> Yeah. No, I'm just so we couldn't just get it through them. We'd have to bring someone else in. Okay. I'm just >> Well, they they you know, they absolutely if the trucks, you know, but that being said, >> we're going to use the full truck. So, >> they they would only be able to do that if there was additional to wash out or something. No, I just didn't know if the company that had conc their own concrete trucks or they >> No, they always would get >> this is like from a plant like >> Okay. No. >> Yeah. Um but yeah, certainly if you know if there was extra and they wanted to utilize that because the concrete truck's just going to wash out in the woods or in the hole.
004Yep. So, we could utilize that. >> So, you're looking at I mean around $8,000 total potential. >> And did you want to do more than 10? >> Well, let's we're going to be changing some I believe we're only now going to be jackhammering one hole. >> Well, I think Do we definitely know that there's no ledge in the other areas? >> No, >> we don't. But we got to have him explore those areas. So, >> yeah, >> one way or another, we're either looking at that price or less >> because if we only if we can if >> the whole the new locations we pointed out are good. >> Yeah. >> Then we can jackhammer. Yeah. >> Just jackhammer that one location. Also, I'm wondering if maybe um the request is for no more than
00510, but planning for less. That way, we don't have to come back again for any kind of issue >> because we're pretty much at five with the estimate and then another two for cement after. But like what if what if under each one of those new holes there's a whole bunch of ledge we just don't even know about and >> have to come back. >> Yeah. That's just I would don't want to be in this position again. We're right back asking for additional funds. >> Well, I think if if if they go So there there's there's two holes that still have to be jackhammered. >> The ones that are in that trench. So there those two are definite and then the two that were moving >> could still potentially put I mean it'll take him
00610 minutes to find out yeah if if those new locations are worse or better. Um >> so um >> you don't have to do 10. I was just throwing it out to get it started. >> And those two where they are in the back by the trees they both need needed to go down further, right? >> Yes, they did. No >> one of them only one of them. only one of them did. We're moving them because of the trees, >> right? >> Um but I think we probably want to do that anyways, right? >> Yeah, >> because of the trees. >> So, um >> angry people. >> The only thing that they could come back at us for is that if we those new locations that we need is even more. >> But one of
007those needed two feet anyways and they had two feet everywhere. So I don't think you know their trench over there was actually the deepest that it was anywhere. They they dug to like 24 instead of 18 that they dug every so confident that they could get to at least but potentially they'd be hammering one more hole one additional than what they estimated >> if both of those end up correct >> because one of them is already two depths. >> Yes. So that's the >> All right. So what do people want to do? >> We want to approve 10,000 not more than >> not more than eight. >> Well, first of all, Chris needs to talk to the >> Yes. >> guy about, you know, we had a discussion last night. We're feeling for safety reasons
008blah blah blah that we want to include concrete. >> That says you you know >> and then they also you said the conversation was the this estimate even though it says in here that it could go up your your thought was when you talked to them that this was it. >> Yeah. We have the concrete >> other than the jackhammer. >> I say but we are changing we are changing now we are. I get it. So, you know, I everything's a tooth. We know where everything is >> and we're already into jackhammering from his first proposal. >> So, in a way, we're covered already. So, >> that that's what makes me nervous though is because you you had mentioned that he anticipates one day. So if it takes longer than a day. >> So would
009that be that would be the machine with the hammer that they also >> So that's 650 labor though. You said that he was just going to work until he got it done. >> Right. But if it now takes another day, that's another $3,000 >> potentially. >> I was thinking positive before. >> That's that that's where I just Yeah. I don't >> because I don't want to approve the 10,000. It's like, oh well, yeah, everything is 10,000. >> They would they would they would have updated to 10. >> Only Chris knows that. >> Well, it is a public hearing. Well, yes, but they are not going to see it until after the project is done. >> Hopefully, the contractor isn't watching. >> So, we we have a couple questions here first before we need I think
010um I will confirm that if it goes into two days with the jackhammering where that's the final cost. There's no additional charge for a an additional day. This is it, right? this price to 20 the 2948 plus the [Music] >> do we we want to know how many yards of sand that he's anticipating >> I mean that's I kind of to me that that's where my push back would be about I I just don't see that's four triacles worth of sand there's not four triacles worth of stone take that out of there. >> Okay. >> Like maybe there's maybe >> to me that number should be you know what his other one was 202 not 964 >> and then the original question about concrete you know about using concrete and doing it >> and then
011the um the hammering if it needs to not be during school hours. Yeah, I would try during school to get the project done. It's just we're just talking tomorrow, right? >> Tomorrow's >> if I give them the okay. >> Yeah. And then they send work on Saturday if they had to. >> And what was the other one? A day or a full day or a half day charge on the jackhammer? Well, if this was like if this was all inclusive, you know, if that price is all inclusive and if you know if it's not, what is the half day or daily rate or hourly rate that they charge? >> Kristen, you encourage them to use the outdoor classroom if it's too loud and >> Okay, I will. I'll tell them. FYI, >> you can tell
012them I said it. They would be thrilled. >> So, um, so then you would probably have all these answers tonight then if they're potentially going to come tomorrow >> if he responds back to me. Yes. >> Well, yeah. Obviously, he's going to have to >> he's going to have to talk to his partner. So, we probably won't get an answer until I see him tomorrow. And I say I'll email him tonight with the questions. We'll see what turns up first thing tomorrow morning. Okay. And then I think we're okay with you talking to Canon about stuff, the concrete, whatever the the scope of that, right? And then we just need to decide on a money. They don't need to know any more money unless >> right because their their their cost shouldn't change unless their
013project changes or there's some comp >> and we know we're adding so we're saying that we won't pay that. >> Correct. But it won't go to them. But it won't concrete won't go to them. The concrete money would go to somebody else. >> Yes. >> So So I I would say that if we allowed for 2500 instead of a 17 that I estimated in case we had to get a partial second truck, >> I think that would be wise. >> Okay. >> Just to make sure we can finish. So that gets us to 7500 and then do we put in extra in case they had ledge in another place we're not expecting. Well, the only thing that we don't know is if they were in a hole that did not have so >> and that
014will be explored tomorrow morning. I'll direct them to they've done all their excavation. They're just waiting on the go ahead to do the chipping. Right. >> So they do they do need to chip >> and I guess >> but they also need to do that other exploring those two other holes, right? >> Two different machines though anyways, right? >> If they got the guy that can operate. Yes. So what amount do we think is appropriate to him to approve tonight that would be increasing that would give you a little bit of wiggle room with increasing that 25%. Yeah. And I think I think you know that conversation Chris about the sand, you know, that should give them some buffer in their additional labor to put that under, >> right? And also if they're doing concrete,
015they're not going to need as much sand back either, >> right? Yeah. And I I just think if you had if you mentioned to them just like what what I had said about um I don't I don't think that four triacs loads of sand >> you can have to that you mentioned >> so their price for the 202 of sand that they provided my estimate was you know roughly that would that's like what a triacal load of sand cost delivery. So, so they're asking now for a 964 additional in the sand. So that's, you know, >> they feel that they're going to have to take a lot of that stuff that they brought out away and dump it. So that's the increase for the additional sand. >> Yeah, that's again that was kind of like
016my conversation with you the other day about they're going to waste a lot of that material because it's all sand. So if they had like a skeleton bucket, >> they don't have one. I checked. >> So that just cost us. >> So a number. >> So does that does this include hauling out all of that material about? >> Yep, it does. And it's being hauled out back up to the big new parking lot that we developed two years ago and it's going to be dumped there. >> Hand spread. >> What? >> And spread? >> Nope. It's just being dumped over the wall. >> Okay. >> No spreading. Just getting rid of it. >> There's a wall there. >> What? >> There's a wall there. I didn't know there's a wall there. >> There's a concrete.
017There's a stone wall with stones there as a so people don't drive off it. the wage. >> Okay. Um 8,500 or do people want to do more or less? >> We just need to make a decision. >> I'm okay with 8,500. That's that's kind of a legal worm of thousand >> that includes the extra mente just in case. >> So like >> does that sound good to you Chris? All right, I'll make a motion to >> I just did, if I can just interrupt for a second. I asked the contractor how many yards he's getting. Three truck three truckloads 18 yards a piece. >> How's that figure out for a number? >> Well, I just thought what I would I'm curious about the original number 202. >> The original number was just for the 2-in
018bed in a little overlay. So, it wasn't Was it what we were expecting? >> I'll make a motion to approve $8500 in additional change order and the concrete and a little bit of buffer so we don't have to >> complete the project forever. So the 85 is in addition to their change order >> or it includes their change order. >> I will second discussion. >> Um is there any caveat about whether this uh is that 2948 is that like the you know, because we just don't we still don't know that. But >> say that again. >> Um the number for the >> 2948. >> Yeah. Um >> I guess never mind. I guess I was just thinking that um >> we're just don't know whether [Music] >> Okay. All in favor I Okay. Uh public
019comments. No, no, no. I'll make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Thank you everybody for coming out on such short notice. Thanks for your heart. >> Yeah. >> Thank you, Chris.