June 10th 2026 School Board Meeting

001Okay, I'm going to call the meeting to order at 6 p.m. Please rise also. Hello, I'm your history teacher. Um, and today we have some wonderful poetry presentations. Um, so this is the sixth grade's last year at Middleton and so we spend some time reflecting on their experiences here and kind of putting that into home form. Um, and those that choose to present get the added bonus of getting to see some pictures and kind of having it all put together for them. Um so everybody was asked if they wanted to present and these are the brave souls that have decided to present. Um two other individuals, one who is on emergency trip and one who is unknown. Um are not here. So I will read both of their poems for them. They are of course

002the longer ones. So you get to hear a lot of my voice. Um so we will get started with Novas. and we'll hit the lights cuz it is a lot easier to see. So I am now um I am from two different rooms but it would be helpful if you could see the poll. I'm from two different rooms. From room 133 filled with Harry Potter to room 134 with its calm nature mood. From kids inhaling the air purifier to a room as cozy as a little campfire. I am from a small school with a big heart where soccer nets are broken apart. I am from the sneaker club standing on the concrete refusing to wear boots and clapping for teachers walking through as if on a red carpet a runway. I don't want these small

003moments to go away. I am from pencils and my computer from Mrs. Bonaby my little tutor making me smile and laugh from Miss Marzandi the most wonderful teacher. From Mrs. Tegan bringing snacks and helping with hard wrap. for Miss Wright welcoming me to MEES and making me smile. For Mrs. Coocher, always helpful and thoughtful. And for Mr. B making his funny jokes. I am for picking up little kindergarten friends to do the pledge and going to course standing right on the edge. And from us chorus members laughing together at a part. I am from Miss Maranti asking for our hopes and dreams. My hope is to never leave. I am from Ka, Autumn, Kala, Olivia, and Cam. From special holiday treats and school lunch meals. From the time camping fell in the trash can trying

004to clean. And when Autumn tripped while trying to chase me. I am from the smiles and laughs. I am from Num's moments. I always will be. And up next we have Ollie. >> Do you want to hold the microphone? >> Do you want to hold this up? >> Sure. I'm from the end of the long hallway. I'm from the seat my seat pocket and my pencil. I'm from the smell and the class freaking out because I'm from the random tree that all my friends put their names on and our class pet flag. I'm from morning meeting to circle at the end of the day uh from Utah parade with all my parents video after video. I'm from school. I'm from Mrs. all the way to the time where there were six minutes everywhere and got

005stung in the middle of the day. I found those moments and I always pit for my computer and my tiny pencil. I am from a happy state with the smell of wood. I am from the best friend which reminds me I am from the cookies in my desk and always kind to last day of school. I'm from walking. I'm from my best friends. From pizza to chocolate milk. From the time we took on during recess, I my head as well. where I'm from. I am from a room where friends were mean and pencils were stolen. I am from when I looked up to my buddy and now Randy looks up to me. I am from when I first met my best friend and we held hands and play. I am from when I would fall

006off the honky box and wait for someone to hold me and tell me I was strong. I am from a popping involve who would bring a great personality and imagination and how we would treat it like a king. I am from Mrs. Tatum bringing us joy every day and Mrs. Coocher taking a little little cotton ball so seriously for us. I am from when Miss Baranti would ask for one great thing about our day and when Mrs. Tatum would make us want to learn something so fun. I am from when we had a day every year where kids could be kids and they go anywhere. I am from when someone would get hurt and Mr. B would say, "Well, your face is killing me." I am from when Camden would always be at my care

007and we would laugh nonstop and from when Olivia would chase me around. I am from when every birthday would bring a special treat. usually cupcakes where everyone would make cupcakes sandwiches and think they were a genius. I am from when in winter no one wanted to wear boots and we would clap for anyone going by. Oh, the good times. These memories gave me I am from those moments I always Where I'm from I'm from the last from my math book, my pencil and M pop. I'm from a m that is both pretty and fun. From the warm bones that fall off the us and the smell of plants. I'm from the sunset near the trees that helped us solve. I'm from taking a photography to get a snap for backpack from my friends and my

008teachers who helped me with that. I'm from morning games in warming every day from the talent show in Fortn time We went to the art museum and when I discovered I love to read. I'm from my favorite pencil that I had since fourth grade. I'm from those moments. I will always BE that presentations. They definitely deserve a nice round of applause cuz they WERE VERY BRAVE. GREAT JOB, GUYS. That is super great. It's not easy to stand in front of everybody. Okay, we will move into public input. 15 minutes for any questions. >> What was that? question. >> Yes, my name is David Crow. I'm one of the Middleton bus drivers. I've been driving bus now from Milton for 14 years. Uh back 3 years ago, I confronted the school board in preference to try

009to get a pay raise for the bus drivers. Right now, we're one of the lowest paid group of bus drivers around the comparative uh prices that pays that the different schools are giving their bus drivers. um with that 14 years that I put in. We got don't have a pay scare really. I got new drivers coming in stocking off. They could stop today have a regular driver's license and they get the same pay that I am. Um and I brought it to the school board's attention this past fall and I was told that they're going to have a committee meeting to study it and to come up with results. I like to find out what results the committee might have had to set up for the bike. >> So we public response we give you

010your response next month. So I think you came last month and asked questions. So I have responses to the questions you asked last month after we're done with public input. >> All right. I was here from last school board. You can ask the same question. >> Correct. So when you ask your question, we respond the next month. So the next agenda on is the responses from public input questions from last month. So when would you like me to come back to this? >> So we we'll finish up the public input now and then the next thing on the agenda is I'm going to read the responses to the questions that were asked last month. So whatever you asked last month will be answered in the next section of the meeting. >> All right. So I

011should get a response. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Yeah, that's fine. Any other public right now? Last call for public input for this time. Okay, we'll add extra time to the end of the meeting if there's additional questions and then moving into the responses for the public input questions. I was not here last month, so I'm just going to read them. um the responses that were given at the school uh the SAU office. Most of the questions were answered by them. Um why are there not two board members on the finance committee? A board member resigned from the April board um the April board reorganizational meeting. So a vacant committee position was intended to be filled by an incoming board member um at the May meeting. I think that position was filled by Joe. Correct.

012Okay. Um what are the results from the committee meeting? Rebecca Eastman Darl offered to have um to discuss bus driver pay increases. The school board meeting uh the school board proposed and approved a new wage scale at the December 10th, 2025 meeting. Um the after the budget was voted through there have been multiple meetings since then that there wasn't anything other than contractual obligations where pay raises were actually approved due to the financial limitations of the budget. So that is the answer for that and we can touch base later if you have more questions. When the meeting occurred in December it was voted by the board to not include that as a separate increase. So it was put to be put into just the regular budget. So that there was there's not enough money in

013the budget to move forward with that at this time. Uh where is the b business administrator Kathy O'Ne has resigned? Uh who is doing the work of the business administrator in her absence? The SA team is managing the work of the business administrator. Have we hired anyone for that question? Do we have >> her name is Adriana. July 1st. >> Thank you. Um, will financial questions be answered in the absence of the business administrator? The process of answering questions will remain the same. Uh, have any special education bills been paid or other special education bills to be signed? Um, yes. The process for special education payables remains the same. Is the treasures electronic signature on file? No. And is the practice of not interacting with public journeys meetings directive of the SAU? >> Um I

014don't know is the response but I think you guys may have responded to the questions and no it was given as a recommendation by the um school board association. And that is it for um the comments from us. Uh agenda review. Does anyone need to add anything to our agenda? >> Okay. nonpublic for personnel. Okay. So, at the end of the meeting, we move into nonpublic for personnel. Acceptance of meetings from May 13th. I'm going to hear. Have you guys had a chance to review them? I'll make a motion. >> Sorry. I'll make a motion to >> So, Sam seconding. All in favor? I >> Sorry. I wasn't here. >> Okay, got it. >> Joe, >> you abain from here. >> No, it works. >> Okay, moving into the superintendent report. Thank you. I will

015turn it over to I for the elementary school update. >> Thank you. And I just wanted to start off by saying thank you all for allowing me to serve as the principal of Middleton Elementary School this year. It has been an honor to work with such incredible students, dedicated teachers and staff and families that want to work together. During this year, we've achieved some really incredible things. um this will be the first week the community is hearing of it that it is preliminary but it appears that our staff scores have increased um by increased substantially so I'm excited to say that for students in a variety of great levels um I want to highlight the safe grant that we received this year this u in the last week our upgraded walks came in and they're

016already making a difference in terms of security and communication in the building and we upgraded our camera systems over April vacation we are still working on some outdoor plans for the ballards but the work for the statement is nearly complete I wanted to highlight this year that we had some really incredible new hires in Gary, Jesse Sanchez, Nate Camp, Courtney Richings, as well as some wonderful substitute teachers. And I'm really hoping I can leave anybody off that list. Um, this year we got some additional programming in our school, including the Lego robotics program, our rocking club, which started this spring. We had a talent show and multiple school dances. We had a STEM day this year with the Portsouth Naval Shipyard. Our librarian Ann Wearing organized a grant from the state to plant some trees

017on the playground that will hopefully dry it out a little bit. We had some incredible concerts and arts night, our fact fluency festival, guest readers, and a readathon. And that's just to name a few things that we accomplished at NAS this year. I'd also like to highlight that with our new alpaca house PTA, we funded field trips, bought new equipment for the playground, supported our staff with incredible teacher appreciation week, and had some really fun additional programming this year. all funded through our PTA. Um, and then I wanted to highlight as well because it has just been an ongoing thing that we upgraded and uh remediated the arsenic. Remember that from the beginning of the year? And we recently completed the work on that new water tank. This month alone, NES also had some pretty

018big wins. That talent show was really incredible. About 20 or so performers practiced and performed in front of an audience. This was supported by staff who volunteered their time to work with kids to be ready after school and those kids put on a great performance. Thank you Jamie, Carrie, Freda, and Misty. We are hoping to have an encore performance planned for next week for our student body. We also in the last month had a ABC fashion show on Monday for our kindergarten families and the whole school in attendance. It was wonderful to see kids celebrating and cheering on our littlest learners as they um showed a little bit of the fluency um that they have been working on and had some fun doing it. Um this month I said already we hosted a dance for

019our students. It was well attended and it was great to see our kids out of the classroom and on the dance floor. This Saturday, our tiny child's play loop will take place at 10:00 a.m. If your child is ages five or under, please join us with our helpful efforts to socialize and play. And then this coming week, we have our kindergarten celebration on Monday. We have our annual funday on Tuesday and our sixth grade promotion and step up day on Wednesday. And that's it for the school year. The final thing I wanted to say is that we have a good deal of work to continue to do. So, um, it is my intent and our whole team's intent to continue to increase academics while maintaining the balance of fun that makes me so special. We

020will continue to improve facilities um with the caveat of that decreased staffing that we'll be experiencing next year. We have some hiring to do over the summer for our custodial position, parent positions, and always substitute teachers. Um, and then I want to implore the school board and the community that we have some real serious planning to do for future budget cycles. I can't control our fixed costs or emergency costs, but I do have control over what happens in my building. With a large amount of cost outside my control, I asked the school board to begin planning our next steps, and I would really love to be a part of that. Um, and then also I wanted to just mention is considering long-term enrollment changes or possible demographic changes that are happening in Middleton and really

021pushing that conversation to the forefront so we can have a plan if things continue to change for us. Overall, it's been a really wonderful year. I'm just so thankful to be part of this team and able to work with such a collaborative group of people. So, thank you all. >> Thank you very much. Any questions? What did what is that stand for? That's our state standardized assessment system. Okay. The other item are the main financial reports which are part of your packing for your review. Um, as I mentioned before, we uh the Governor Worth Regional School District has hired a new business administrator, Adriana KS, who is currently the finance manager for the Rochester School District, and she will start as of uh July 1st. You'll also have a new superintendent. So, interim superintendent Scott

022Liberty will be starting on July 1st. He's a retired superintendent who lives in the lakes region um and he was a superintendent in London area. He's an an excellent leader and brings a lot of uh heart and expertise to the role. So I want to make sure you're aware of that. If you have any questions about financials, you're welcome to um ask now or send me at any time and I can get those answered for you. Oh my goodness. Did you give us a t-shirt? >> I'm not sure. I did give you a little bit of summary. >> Basically on track we're watching special education. >> Yeah, that was my question. It looks like it's all broken down. The bus transportation. So co-curricular would be anything that's not part of the schooling. So we withdrew

023money out of the trust. So this is the trust money I'm guessing. >> Yes. >> Okay. So the shortage that we're having that's with the trash or Any other question? One more time. >> Thank you. Trainer. Okay. Wrapping up the financial reports, we will move into the NHSBA training. I'll hand this microphone over to you. Good evening. Um, thank you to the Milton School Board for inviting me um to some familiarities across the table. U my name is Barrett Christina, executive director of the New School Boards Association. Um, want to thank you for the invitation to do um some roles and responsibilities training um speaking with Superintendent Eric Kelly. Um, like I said, we've got a few school board members if I'm not mistaken. some just one room and two and I'm making room. I

024apologize for not recognizing you. Um uh before we start hand I sent that off to Caroline maybe a week or so ago. Um so we've got some you know some return people one one person I know I did this was just a year or so ago I came up and did a a training for the for the board. Um before I get started, could I just have a quick sense as to how much time I have? Um I see you have a pretty full agenda. Um I just want to have an idea because that would kind of help me guide myself as how quickly I move on with what I spend a lot of time on, what I >> how much time do you feel you need to >> I can I can do this

025in a half hour. I can do this in two hours. Um >> leaning more towards like the half hour. I can absolutely absolutely that that's fine. That's that's completely fine. Um you know uh you know typically it's about an hour um you know to really get into a conversation. There have been boards that have got me for 2 hours plus just depending on the way the conversation goes. But again I see that you have you know somewhat of a full agenda. So if I look at my phone please understand I'm updating we're just trying to keep track keep track of the time. So um and I trust that the mad chair will keep me will keep me on track as well too. Um I'm so you have the handout. It's a lot of slides. Um

02633 slides. I'm certainly not going to to go through all of those. I'm going to touch on this on sort of a high level 30,000 ft view just kind of touch the main the main points as it comes to sort of schoolboard governance and then compare and contrast that a little bit with administrative management. Um and you know what does the superintendent of the SAU office do versus what does what does the school board do? Um and Carolyn is the other document to the the white hour that just sent the slides. >> Um yeah, it's the longer document. >> Yeah. Okay. So the longer document um is just the um sort of Yeah. Thank you. I wouldn't check if I sent that to you. Yeah. So I'll be working from the slides. That longer document

027though is almost like the white paper of the slides. The slides are are sort of the version of what's that longer white paper. So, um I'm going to just if you have the slides in front of you, I'm going to jump just um I did a couple slides. So, slide seven. Um starting off with sort of slide 7, 8, 9, and 10. Um three core principles that the school board association advocates um that that school boards trying to follow. The first um on my hand slide, slide eight. Um three core principles. The first core principle um the purpose of school boards RSA 189 col 1-8 paragraph 1. It shall be the duty of the school board to provide a district expense elementary and secondary education to all peoples who reside in the district. That's why

028we have elected school boards. Five people on the Middleton school board. Some school boards across the state have seven, some have nine, some have 13, and the largest one um is 15. um which is uh you can imagine the the how those conversations go. Um but that's why that's why school boards exist. That's why we have elected officials to ensure that children in Middleton are receiving are receiving a proper education receiving education that that the school board in conjunction in collaboration with the administration helping direct. Um but you know if we said it was as simple as just providing an education and the best education you know that we could possibly provide to the children of Middleton things would be easy right but we know that it's not always that easy. you have lots of

029constituencies um and lots of factors that we have to consider when we're providing that education budget, parents, students, staff members. Uh do you have a budget committee here in the middle? You have so you have your school budget committee that you have to work with, right? You have parents with kids in the district. You have people who live in the community who don't have who don't have kids in the district. You have elderly people that may be on fixed incomes. All of these considerations, all these factors go into, you know, when the school board is trying to develop its budget, trying to look the program, what can you provide to the children here in Belton? But at the end of the day, the five of you debate, discuss, liberate, all vote. You send the the

030budget out to the voters and then you got choices made relative to programming and extracurriculars and whatever else you're going to provide here. But I always tell my my my my board members when you've got a tough decision before the school board, whether or not it's the budget, whether or not it's programming, an expenditure, a cost item, whatever it might be, ask yourself, how is this board's decision going to impact kids? If we do this, how will impact kids? If we don't do this, how will it impact kids? and keeping in mind all the other various constituencies and factors you have to but hopefully that is sort of the a driving force behind the decisions that that the board makes you excuse me anybody with allergies I think has had a pretty pretty bad last

031couple of days or she everybody nodded so my ears have been clogged I've been seeing a coughing for for for days on end now um moving on to the next slide core principle number two collective authority of the school board. The school board can only act as a collective body, meaning the five of you or the quorum if you will just for the sake of particular meeting under the right to no law where you sit at the table. You have the agenda. You go through the agenda and debate, discuss, deliberate, ultimately vote, ultimately act. Not every vote is going to be five to zero. Some votes are going to be 3 to two, some are going to be four to one, some are going to be 5 to zero. Then that's healthy debate, discussion, and

032deliberation. What's important to note about that though is that no individual school board member has any inherent right above and beyond the rest of the board or the collective of the board. Now, um there's always caveats, right? There's always some exceptions. Um the board collectively can delegate authority to individual school board members. So for example, the board chair may have certain rights via policies to sign documents on behalf of the board, work with the superintendent to set the agenda. Um, uh, the spokesperson for the board, sign contracts, whatever the case may be. But again, that's the five of you collectively granted authority to one individual for the work. If you look at all the statutes in New Hampshire that govern school districts, I've got a book in my car in about 6 to 6 in

033thick. Thousands of pages of The regulations governing school districts, they all talk about the board. The board the board. None of those regulations talk about individual school board members. The only right the individual board member has is to sit the table, debate, discuss, deliberate, and ultimately vote on the on the issue that's before the board. Questions so far? All right. The last core principle, governance, not management. I'm on slide attacking. Um, so the school board governs the school district. You may familiar with the phrase the governing body, right? We govern the school district. Excuse me. The superintendent in the central office manages the school district. And the way I differentiate those two is when I think of management, I think of the day-to-day operations of the school district. Are the buses on time? Are staff

034showing up? The policies being followed? Are kids getting special education services. Is the boiler working? Uh to the roof, you know, the roof leaking, so on and so forth. Um and you don't have to turn to look at that longer, the white document paper. I think it's on page 12, 13 or 14, there's a stat sheet, RSA 194-4 col 194- C4, I'm sorry. And that list that says those are all the responsibilities of the superintendent. And if you look at those, those are the day-to-day operations, the day-to-day responsibilities of the schools. The first one, if I'm not mistaken, talks about payroll, cash flow, and things of that nature. And then there's one paragraph J, the daily administration of the schools, meaning staff, students, transportation, facilities, so on and so forth. The school board conversely through

035its governance governance is policy, budget, strategic planning, long range planning, short-term planning. I know you don't evaluate the superintendent, you know, year your your arrangement with the contracting for services, but I see 59 49 government. They have an obligation to evaluate the superintendent. Those are the governance responsibilities. So, you know, if we look at the slide, I I like this line that we try to come back to often. The board's job is not to run the schools, but rather to see that the schools are brought well and then the board sets the policies through the districts and helps to filter them through oversight of the administration. The board can adjust its policies and directives as needed. Um, and ignore that last say the board's functions are primarily legislative, but also the board has executive functions

036and quasi judicial functions. I probably won't touch on those because they're not necessarily pertinent to to the military school board. Um if questions come up I can certainly we can certainly discuss those though. Um like for example um I'm on slide 12. This is about hiring and evaluating the superintendent. I'm not going to spend a lot of time on that just because that's not a the middle to school. He's not evaluating the the the superintendent that you contract for services with. Slide 13. Um this is a sort of a little cheat sheet um for school board members. And I've also found that it can come in handy for members of the public as well too who don't necessarily understand sort of what the board's role may be with a particular topic or question issue that

037they have. Um you know you're elected officials now, right? And as soon as you became you got elected to the school board, you probably became everybody's best friend in town, right? So you're >> well best friend best friend or worse than anything I should say. But anyway, you can't you can't go to Market Basket or Hannifford these days and get a half gallon of milk after work without people coming up to you now thinking about school business, right? You're at the little league game parents coming up to you asking about the budget, asking about this, asking about that teacher, whatever the case may be. So um this is sort of a little cheat sheet that on the left hand side we've got the um sort of the topic if you will policy decision making board

038meetings budget curriculum and instruction so on so forth and then a column that lists the school board's responsibilities and a column that lists the superintendent's responsibilities. Um, uh, there's a in the larger handout, there's a full page of this of this chart. So, it's a little bit like 6.5 here. I apologize, it's a little hard to read, but in the larger document, there's a full page of it. Some boards would encourage them get that laminated, keep it in your board packet or whatnot or provide it to parents if they're not. >> Yeah, great. Put it up. Feel free if you need a single page copy of it. Let me know. >> That would be great. >> Yeah. remind Caroline if you don't mind reminding me I'll I'll get that to you in the a single

039page PDF. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> All right. Um slide 14, schoolboard's legislative functions, governance and policy and finally the question is as we're moving along it's pertinent to that slide by all means you know stop and ask the question. If it's not pertinent to that slide I'll certainly have time for Q&A at the board's discretion when we're done. um site sites 14 and 15 policy through policy governance through policy and policy decisions. NHS advocates that that by and large aside from the your budget and financial responsibilities policy is where the board really exercises its authority control and jurisdiction governance responsibilities over the school district. You see your policy manual, it's probably 3 in thick. We probably got 150 200 policies in there if I'm not mistaking. Um I didn't look at the agenda that closely,

040but most school boards policy work on every agenda. You're reviewing policy or adopting a policy or discussing the policy or sending it back to a policy committee or asking the superintendent or whoever it might be for guidance relative to a policy. Why is policy so important? Well, first, it sets the expectations for everybody in your school community. And when I say everybody in your school community, that's really everybody in Middleton, right? When we talk about policy, policy might impact. Initially, we sort of think of what the people that are in the building 7 hours a day, staff and students, right? But we also have policies in section C that govern administration. We have policies about facilities. We have policies about visitors to the school, right? You have to check in at the front desk. You

041have to sign in. might get a name tag. You might have to make an appointment. Um I've been in some SAU offices where they scan my driver's license. So it's a barristina enter the facility at, you know, 9:02 a.m. on on Wednesday morning. Um you might have to be escorted across the building. So we just don't have people, you know, walking randomly walking down the halls. Um do you rent this facility to like the youth recruit or anything like that? Do you have basketball here on Saturday mornings during the winter or anything like that? policy for it. We have not >> but you don't but you got a policy though but it >> right right and but the board can create policies as it but anyway my point being is that most sports will have

042a policy about renting space out the the the town rec league or the garden club or the Bible club or the boy scouts or or whatever whatever the case may be. So that's why I say when policy impacts not just you know why policy is so important it's impacting every everybody within your school community. Um and it's also as I mentioned it sets expectations for staff and students. Um it enables continuity by establishing a consistent framework through which the superintendent manages the district. The other thing too that um you know why policy is so important it it takes some of the heat off of you as an individual board members where it doesn't look like the board chair is just making it up. For example, you referenced during the public comment earlier why isn't there

043sort of a commitment back and forth right now because you have a policy that that dictates that. It's not you as the board chair say we're not answering your questions. We have a policy that's establishing the protocols and guidelines in the process by which the board is going to entertain public comment complaints from parents, concerns about the administration, concerns about the pots and the in the parking lot, the splinters on the playground. We have policies that address all these sorts of things. Questions? All right. Um I'm going to skip slide 16. Um, slide 17. I'm sorry I keep coming in and out. Um, slide 17. Um, we talked this a little bit about this earlier. Um, a second core um, responsibility of of the of the school board is to establish the budget and provide

044financial oversight um, and as needed redirection of of resources. And when we say the school board establishes the budget, that's actually not accurate. Mentioned we have a budget committee. they their proposed budget goes out to the voters and ultimately it's the voters that establish the budget at your annual meeting or delivery session or what wherever you may have here here in in Middleton. Um but even though the board, you know, puts together the budget and works with the bud, it's not like your budget responsibilities end after your annual meeting after the voters vote on. You had a financial report that you reviewed 20 minutes ago, right? So, I imagine every month you're getting financial information, financial reviews. Um, there may be times when the board may need to reallocate your resources. You had a heavy

045winter um and they budgeted to plow the parking lot 10 times, but we had to plow it 20 times, right? You have um a special education student either move in or move out of the district. So, that may impact your budget line one way or the other. Um, you know, you should be getting financial reports. Um, are you do you do you an annual audit? Do you know of your finances? Thank goodness. Um, in response to some of the financial challenges that at least one of our school teachers has had here in New Hampshire this year. Um, the legislature, excuse me, has passed a handful of laws this year. Um, basically adding putting the school board responsible for some more financial oversight, some more reports that are going to need to be done. Audit is

046going to be required by law. I think it's going to have to be reviewed and formally accepted by the school board. A couple other things that we're still working through at NHS through the legislation and preparing our final legislative summary legislative report. Um but um you know regularly monthly annual reviews, excuse me, an annual audit request for information. Um you know so you know to the extent that you know you can you know you stay on stay on top of the budget. If something doesn't seem right to you at your monthly meeting or whenever you get reports ask the question, right? We want to make sure that at the end of the year everything's coming out coming out straight and you know every every dime is accounted for. We don't want to run into some

047of the other challenges that some of the other uh school districts have been through have been facing this year. So policy, budget, um slide 18, goal setting and strategic planning. Um I call strategic planning there there actually is a law department of education rule 303.01G impose a duty upon school boards to quote develop long range plans and identify measurable and attainable short-term objectives. Um does the board do strategic plan or has it in the past? really I'd recommend that that that that that you try and start and get on a on a habit of doing that. Um some boards will do it um during you know a regular meeting. Other boards will have called for lack of a better phrase of retreat if you will. Um you know they might get together on Saturday morning

048times after school is over or once in the summer. I know I know Saturdays in the summer are tough to give up. There's only so many of them, but over the course of the year, you've got ball games and little league and family vacations and and and and you know, and and trips to Canopy and things of that nature. Um but, you know, and and and when we talk about school board goals, and they don't have to be extensive, they don't have to be, you know, indepth. Um, I always tell boys when you're talking about schoolboard goals, bring those goals back to what the prime roles and responsibilities of the school board are. Policy, budget, strategic planning, fiscal oversight, and other districts that may be um evaluating the superintendent. So, a typical board goal might

049be, okay, for the next two years, we want to make sure our policy manual is up to date. you know, through staff turnover, through board turnover, through turnover. Some board policies is never a priority and lo and behold, they've only updated five policies in the last 3 years and even though the legislature is requiring all these updates and policies, that may be one goal. Other districts that we work with, they want to retool, revamp their superintendent evaluation process, and it's really not working for them. um other boards they want to um work on having more effective meetings because the meetings are running for four and a half hours and it's 10:30 night when we're getting out of there, you know. Yeah, you I'm not kidding. Yeah. So anyway, um you know, it doesn't have to

050be heavy lifting. Um but you know one establish those goals and then two if you're going to establish and I'm talking like three here you know kind of simple simple stuff um make sure that they're things within your control you know for example I write the boards that sort of said okay we want to increase our math scores just like give you an example by 10%. Okay. A lot of that's out of your control, right? Right. You know, you don't the board doesn't necessarily get involved in curriculum, instruction, and assessment, but what can you do relative to your math scores? That may be your goal. Can you reallocate resources to say, you know what, our math scores are low. We're going to emphasize professional development for our K12 three teachers to really give our kids

051a good foundation on on math. I'm just using As an example, our reading scores are are a little bit low. We're going to see if we can reallocate the budget and hire a reading specialist professional development to to our to our staff. So, that's not we're getting involved in curriculum instruction and assessment, but what is it? It's a budgetary issue clearly falling within within the board's perview. Questions about that? Does that make sense? Clear some of that up. All right. Um, moving on. Page 19 or I'm sorry, slide 19. Um, communications. Um, this is this one's a little kind of kind of difficult. The other the other roles and responsibilities that we talked about are kind of actionable, right? You're adopting a policy, you're adopting goals, you're reviewing your budget, reviewing expense reports. Communication is

052a little kind of nebulous. Um but you know when we used to do this is a number of years ago but prior to co we would do our new school board member orientation at our office in conquer and we have um meeting space where we get about 120 new school board members every April or so and we do we do this to some degree um you know like our sort of orientation roles responsibilities and I look around 100 people and you know you you can kind of pick out who the parents are, right? Just by their age and whatnot. So, I' I'd say, you know, how many of you ran for school board because he had got kids in the school? No kidding. 2/3 3/4 of the hands would go up, right? Not surprising at

053all. And then I purposely call on somebody and say, "Why did why okay, you didn't raise your hand. You don't have kids in the school board. Why didn't you run for school board?" And the second most common reason after having kids in school, excuse me, was I wanted better communication from my school board. I wanted more communication from my school board. I never felt like I knew what was going on with the school board. Fact a couple different ways. My first reaction always wanted to be, well, do you go to I got an easy way you can keep up with what's going on with the school board. But regardless of of of regardless of that, you know, perception is reality in some of these things. So, you know, I don't always know what it's in

054more communication or better communication. Well, okay, the board said one of you want two because that's more communication. So, I don't always know necessarily what that meant, but we certainly found out during co, right, that there's an expectation, especially among parents, that we communicate things instantaneously almost, right? what's going on. It's not minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day. Certainly, um, you know, and you know, communication can take on different types of avenues. There's obviously crisis communication. You know, kid playground and why why was he at the elementary school, the roof caves in or we had an issue with government with the roof collapsing, right? So, you know, and but but there's also, you know, I also say to, you know, I can see them on the table. Everybody carries one of these

055around, right? It's easy to it's easier to communicate with people today than it ever has been. Some boards use social media very well. I have still caution about that because um it's it's manpower. It's hot man. If you got to do social media, that's fine. We have we recommend policy and procedures. Who has access to the site? who has the password, what content is going to be posted. Are you going to block comments and and and responses? You have to be mindful mindful about um the the notices cuz parents say, "No, I I want the pictures of my kids." So, if it's the if it's the secretary, the admin assistant with Facebook, make sure she knows that Johnny or Sally, you can't have their picture on on on the website, the social media. My point

056being is there's a lot of a lot of things you have to consider before you do that. Some boards, excuse me, or administrators will tweet. Um, individual board members may have Facebook pages or social media pages. That's fine to some degree. There are some pitfalls that can that can come along with that. Um, be mindful of the banter and back and forth. Just saying. Not saying anybody here, but I've seen it too many times. you know, if you're going to have so your own personal social media relative to, you know, Jane do for for school board. Um, try not to editorialize. Be respectful of your other board members. You know, I've seen people come home from what they're doing. Everybody thinks the budget, they're going to make our stuff all stupid. They don't know what

057to do. I've seen it, right? But if you're going to use it for, hey, remind your parents big sale on Friday. Hey, remind your permission slips in for the for the field trip. Um, you know, Congratulations to the to the soccer team for a big wedding that kind of stuff to keep the parents informed and some photos and remember you know my reminder meeting on the second day session on such and such a day. No problem at all with that questions about communications. All right. Um five. All right. Um collective bargaining. Um on on slide 20 I believe you have many bargains here one just the one. So I I won't spend too much time on that. Um you know you got to bargain every two three years. I hope your teachers are under a

058contract right now. Um the last couple of those slides, um I'm going to I'm going to go with slide 22. Um and then I'm going to going to wrap it up just in the interest of time. Um, so this is when dealing with the public. So I told you practices when receiving communication and complaints about staff members, about the principal, about the facilities, the rusty nails. So the the boles another reason why policy comes back to to being so important for the school board, you're going to get them if you haven't already. You're going to get a complaint from a neighbor or a parent or a constituent about the second grade teacher or about the principal or about whatever the case may be and they want you to fix it. Right? You're the elected official.

059I want you to fix the problem. I want you to you've got to be mindful that as we talked about earlier um we talked about it in in great detail. Personnel matters follow the principle of the superintendent. the board has no authority over over personnel matters. Um, collectively, as a matter of law, the statutes clearly put that in the purview of the administration. And the 194 C4 that I that I talked about earlier, there's a provision in there, the superintendent's responsible for oversight and evaluation and whatever else relative to to to staff members. The second aspect relative to that, we talked about collective authority versus individual authority. You as an individual board member have no authority to contact that second grade teacher and file a complaint, do an investigation, ask what what their side of

060the story is. You know what your job is as a board member and why policy is so important. You should get to know your policy angles. Your job is not to solve the problem for that individual. Your job is to help lead them to the person that can help them with the issue. Is it a special education issue? I presume without knowing that there's a special ed director in the building, right? The director now has the SA about that. Some some buildings some districts have building level. I didn't know how how it worked. But anyway, special ed director, you know, um the princip complain about the teacher. Again, you tell them you talk to the teacher about this and you talk to the principal. Um, you know, and again, the board doesn't have any authority

061to direct the special education director to do something or to come in and ensure compliance with special education, make sure the kids receive their services. That's an administrative function. Now, you know, in other districts without the equation that you have here, you know, that would fall under the board's evaluation of the superintendent because if you get a complaint, here's the example I gave. You give a you get a complaint from a parent about a second grade teacher. Okay? You refer them to the policy, you call the superintendent, say or the principal, and say, "Hey, Mrs. Smith, second grade teacher is upset about something. I told her to give you a call." Perfect. respond to these things. How are you going to know if that didn't know if that issue was addressed or if that parent

062got a phone call back? Well, because the parent didn't get a phone call back, they're going to call you again in 3 days and say, "You told me the principal was going to call me and the superintendent was going to call me. I haven't heard from anybody." Scenario number two. On Monday, you get a call about the seventh grade teacher. You pass it on to the administration. Wednesday, you get a call from a different parent about the same second grade teacher. You on the administration. A week goes by, you've received six phone calls from six different parents. Love to say the second grade teacher. You you know something is going on in that classroom and you say to the superintendent principal, I don't know what's going on in that classroom, but obviously something is going

063on whatever it is need to be rectified because I've heard from five different parents all at the same class in five in the last five days. So, um that's one of the reasons why why policy is so important. Um and and and helping. And to some degree, as we talked about with that chart, it's educating the public. You're the elected official. Your name is on the website, right? They know you. You may have gone to school with them. Your kids are friends. You're on a little team together. You're on PTA together, right? They're going to call you because they think that you're there to help answer or solve their resolve their issue. Again, your job is to help them find and navigate the path to the people that to the people that care. Um it's

064not in here in the slides per se. Um it's in the longer paper where there's some other you know and the next slide slide 23 I'm not going to go through it just in case there's some of time talks about sort of hiring supervision and discipline of employees and other personnel. Um you know again primarily the evaluation is primarily an administrative function and the board can either you know accept the superintendent recommen not no issue on the internet that's a long longer conversation that's about 30 minutes is there anything else the board wants me to cover or there another question that anything else that I didn't cover my time is your time any questions so this longer presentation that you speak of that's two hours long. >> Yeah. >> I feel like that might be

065effective to be just in its own meeting. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, tough time of year. I get that. You know, when's the best time for a meeting? So, yeah. When if a board wants me to do a full training, we often do it on a night that's not a meeting. Some boards, depending on jobs and whatnot, have the flexibility to have me come at like 5:00 or whatever. Um, here's what I'll tell you. if if we can find time over the summer um and you can set aside an hour and a half um you let me know um and I will I will be here. Um, I travel all over the city doing trains this time of the year. And I'll be honest with you, I enjoy the trains. My favorite part of the

066job. It's better, you know, is anybody here in the state house in the state rep by chance providing the training, getting a chance to see my members a lot better than spending eight hours a day for legislature from from January. So, >> but no, seriously, um it's it's it's you know, this is rough. That's okay. Sometimes boards, you know, just they need to they want the quick refresher. I understand you got full agenda. >> Um either, you know, I know Carolina's got a short time here. Um I've known Scott for 15 years, whatever you wanted to hear. You guys are in really good hands. >> Um talk with Scott. Um if we can find time over the summer um and you got an hour and a half um either before a meeting or you have

067got time to spend an extra let me know. I'll be here to come back. >> Say we don't have a meeting next month. So maybe next month >> unless you're >> right now. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right now I know my my July is pretty open except last the last week of July doesn't work. Um, but right now my middle sort of the middle two weeks of of July are pretty open. So, >> okay. >> Yeah. Shoot shoot shoot me an email or give me a call at the office. >> Anything else I can do for you if I focus? >> No, we appreciate you coming down. >> Thank you so much. Thank you for the invitation. I'll be in touch. >> Thank you. Okay, moving on to the discussion about the champion childcare program that

068we have been talking about for the last couple months. Um, we did get the proposed contract um that the childare program sent us. Um, we did submit it to legal. They went through and made some changes. Um, I know I came back and had some more. Do you want to present your concerns? Thank you. So, I did get a chance to also look over the contract from the school perspective. Um, and I broke my concerns down into a worries category and a things that need to be revised or changed to work effectively at NES category. So, real worries. Um, when I look at the contract, do you have a copy of it? >> We don't say I can't copy it. I have two. >> This has got all my notes all over it though. So,

069yeah, I couldn't forward it from my phone. It would allow me to attach it. >> Do you want me to just print some for everybody? Would that be helpful? >> Does it show in black and white with the attorney's feedback? >> I could not see any feedback. >> Okay. So, that's my concern. I want to know the attorney's feedback. >> Okay. I don't have that. I haven't seen any. Um, okay. So, for worries. Um the on page one of the contract part one D and V um there's a piece of wear and tear. Do we need to document the condition of our facilities first before they join us? Um I have a worry on page one section 2 A for school responsibilities. How do I know if we can meet the applicable licensing requirements for

070our playground? I'm pretty sure that the uh gymnasium will meet those requirements, but our playground does have some challenges um for uh a worry for um school responsibilities page 2 section 2 a vi um we are planning for their cleaning and refues. I'm worried due to the times in this contract we will not have enough time on the schedule to clean before and after students use the space due to our reduced schedule um and the custodial position. I put my thoughts about that in the next section so that I can make suggestions for that schedule. Under school responsibilities page 2E, we can absolutely provide them against Wi-Fi, but their contract says that they want access to our IT support. We have one IT support person in the building once every two weeks. So, I do

071not have an IT person to give them. I don't think this will be a big deal, but I do want that noted. Um, that Justin is not just available. Um, premix is our insurance provider. Have they reviewed this yet? So, this is my last word. Things that need to be revised or changed. The primary one is the hours of operation. I suspect that they were just kind of winging it and making their best guess. Um, so my customer will be coming at 6:30 during non smoke months and 6:00 a.m. during snow months. It takes about half an hour to clean the gymnasium floor. would not be able to open until 700 a.m. This could run until 8:30, which is when school is open till all students. Those times do need to be revised. To the

072same point, school dismissal starts at 3:15. I want champions to start at potentially 3:20 in the gymnasium, and this could run until 5:30, allowing my custodial staff in the next day to do bathrooms and trash. Um, next point is our building will not be available over the summer for 11 hours a day. That's a tough one because we have limited staffing and we need to clean. We use the gym to um do all of the runs. We have inspections that have to take place, etc. I'd like to discuss the summer and break programming as separate issues. Um this would be hard to manage with reduced code staff. Could this be a separate contract? I don't have a handle yet on what summer is going to look like and how it will play out with um

073the changing in staffing. Um, I need change to understand that sometimes we have PD days or school closings in which the gym will not be available, for example, during voting and are collaborative PD days. The schedule needs to be looked at in collaboration with me so we can determine when the program can be open and when it is closed. I will also need to know how many spaces they anticipate needing. At this time, a multi-purpose room is an obvious choice, but I'm not confident about sec confident about a second theory breakout space, and I feel strongly that it cannot be a classroom as teachers need access to their spaces from 8:15 to 3:45 due to contractual obligations. I have some ideas, but I would need to know how many spaces we're talking about. Um, and

074then I have a I was wondering about a second child care survey survey that does include the costs for families. I think that costs are something that families should have upfront before we make this decision. We have those now. Um we would get a more complete idea of what families are willing to cover. I am a little bit worried about charges that we potentially can incur if we don't meet these minimums. And I would love to hear their feedback and have time to think about it and work with them so that we have a contract that will be um in our students and family's best interest and in our school's best interests. Any questions for me? >> I think um as far as the area, they told us in the presentation they need two areas.

075So it would be here and one other area um for the guidelines. Um, as far as the time, I think that's something that had they had kind of let us know that they were just shooting a generic time, so we need to just go back to that with the times that would work for the school. Um, as far as the building in this summer, and I mean, we're not going to have it for the summer program this year. Um, we had talked about doing the school year program and then the summer program after. I think that's just something that we need to go back to them. They had let us know originally that it was a preliminary contract. So, um, we've only hit the we haven't even rebutted to any of their things yet. So,

076I think anything and I they're when they talk to us, they want to have a meeting. So, I think that what we do is um, we can go back to them with the contract that was adjusted by the attorney if we so wish to move forward. Um, and then with any of your concerns that they can address them before we actually sign the contract. That sounds much better. >> Yeah. I mean, we're not signing this contract. this is a we're going to keep moving forward if the board so decides to keep moving forward um with the plan to do this as I I agree with you. I think that there's some things like I want I know that the playground was one of your concerns. Um I would assume that but I think we just

077right have something written in that's a loophole that says that you know we can sign this contract but if we come to terms on all the other things that that's one of the things is if our play is not we're not fixing it. not the ability or the finances to do that, we would just be asking to do that out of contract. And I'm pretty sure that there was a clause in there that said we cannot meet the terms of this agreement, but I like I would love to preliminarily know if that is going to be a problem. Um, and it may not be at all. I just know that there's some areas in that playground I really would like to address. And I don't know if child care because we've had a playground for

07810 years. I don't know whether or not we still would be a crime inspection. So prime your liability property carrier should review anything to do with contracts especially if it's in this facility their attorneys should they review contracts for anything which we're happy to Do you have anything? Do do you want me to put out a survey to families this Friday that would include the costs and my proposed hours to see if there is additional interest? >> Yeah, I'd be curious to see if we lose interest if we're not opening until 7. >> We can also propose to just not have the program and just have that program and that may be a way to start it this year is just school program isn't it's it's not a package deal. It's something they can choose.

079They can choose. If we don't need the four school, then we can change the proposals and not have a school for this year. >> Yeah. They don't have to do both. So I guess my question for you guys is do you from what you're hearing do you want to move forward with discussing this any further this year or do you want to table it and be done with it? I think my concern is that the town needs it. The kids in the town need childare and there's nothing offered. But yeah, >> I have I have a problem on this with the liability insurance. Okay. If you read the liability insurance that's named as co What's it say here? >> Yeah, I asked for it too. She said that's pretty standard. is basically >> understanding because

080what they're doing is they're going to use their insurance. If something happens and they run out of money, we have to kick in to support what that what's happen what has happened during their hours of operation and that puts a general liability on the school and we use prime doesn't matter if we get rate increase in our our insurance the taxpayers pay for it regardless. They don't see it, but they pay for it. And I don't see that the benefit. Is there a need? Yes. I don't think that we should be initially named as cour what they're doing. >> It's not a coachure. It's just naming that they're here. So, kind of like what Carol was just saying, somebody that they know they're here. >> Interpret that's how it was kind of explained to the

081attorney. >> Each party Each party will list the other as an additional insured under the party's general commercial liability insurance policy and I'm going to request first. Okay. So, I'm a general contractor. I work for somebody else. I give them my insurance. Something happens. The house blows out. They go after their insurance company. Even if it's not enough, they come after mine. My rates go up. It's just how it works. And if you tell if anybody says, "Well, lawsuits, no, that don't happen." It does happen. They go after everybody. And I don't, you know, it's one thing to have this, but when I and I do think there's a need for people, but at the same I don't want this town, the school, the taxpayers, and nothing may ever happen. But when it does, or

082if it does, we're not protected. I don't think we should be additional. they want to do this provide your insurance and have enough time to take care of it outside of the school's going to operation at that point our insurance take care of us >> right and they have their insurance that's that's what I'm saying I think from what I from what my understanding was for how it was explained to me is that it's just saying that there's another business being run in the school that the li our liability insurance is aware that there's another business being run in the school it's not that they're being covered by our insurance it's just that They I mean anything could happen in the school and there could be a lawsuit whether it's voting or anything else say

083anything could happen >> but at the same token we are allowing extra hours here outside the normal operating procedures of the school to allow something else to possibly happen but providing that venue for them to be here at this facility >> right with I mean so if your school's open 8 hours that 8 hours we control. It's the hour before and after that, but we don't control. We may have to pay for it if something happens. But I'll tell you, I mean, this is a city. >> We don't have to make decision right now. >> We if we're having an issue, we have to make a decision to either move forward or begin with this because there's they have to have two to have to have um and she said up to 12 weeks for

084licensing. So, we don't have the decision to move forward this and negotiate the contract over the next like week, we there's no way. There's for the licensing restrictions in the state, they're just not going to get licensed now. So, there's just there's there's no way. Um, can I offer one thing? So, can negotiate the contract for you with respect to liability if you send it to them. um and they can look at the terms and make recommendations and >> so that was my question was we submitted it to our legal we can submit it to primex and then go there we're just not able to have another meeting so it's going to have to either and it's concerning you have to try to have another special meeting that's why Sam and I have been doing

085the the special board um or the I can't anymore we were assigned to on the the childare product. So it would be either allowing us to move forward with primex and the attorneys and and i.e. the childcare program and coming to an agreement and acting on the board's behalf or as a subcommittee or not and just being done with this. If you are unable to come to an agreement that you love it, would it just be put off or like do you have to come to an agreement if you don't like what they're offering? >> You mean I go back with after having crime and everything if we don't come to an agreement we don't come to an agreement then we're done. I mean we're in the same position as Joe like I'm not going

086to do anything to put this school at risk. So if crime master is telling me, you know, which is why I said the same when I first submitted the contract, I was like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa." Um, I submitted to legal, they reviewed it and came back with their suggestions. Um, so I think we can, if you guys are okay with it, take what legal has suggested, submit that to Prime Next, get a second set of eyes on it to see what they think. Um, and then if they're feeling like they made their changes, the attorneys made their changes, then we can move forward and present it to their attorney to review and see if they're even interested in having any further conversation because we may make all these changes and they might go never mind.

087Um, if that in the least concerns of changing the time, say feel like somewhere in it says the exact time. Um, so that was something they said that we can change the times to be what we need to. So, we can propose that we feel like before school is going to be too much this year. Let's just not do before school. Um or maybe we propose that we don't do the summer pro, you know, we don't do the um school break program for this year and we just start with afterare. Let's see how that goes. Um but it will come back to just presenting back what works best for the district and then whether they want to do it or not will be up to them. or we can be done with it and that's

088fine too and tell them either we'll take you all together or we can talk about this next year. >> I remember that nervous >> that mean as would be having power insurance. >> That's what I thought too, but I was told that that's not it's just naming them as some with and we can clarify it if we're concerned with the way it's worded. We can have our attorney cross it out and say um named as run of business or however they would word it. >> Well, there's no reason why their own insurance can't be the only thing. So we shouldn't have to name them on our insurance as insurance under our policies because that's the way it was written. Like I know it's not school but in municipalities when you have like services vendors come

089on and do service on your property they have to provide a certificate of insurance. They don't get added to the town's coverage. So I would think that it would be the same where they're technically a vendor coming in providing service on our property. Therefore, their certificate of insurance should cover. >> Yeah, they should have significant coverage >> without us having to name them under our policy which is political. >> And I I have to tell you my personal insurance business more than that. I'm not $4 million per firm. overall. I mean, and then not just as small independent. I mean, that's just >> we can go back and change it and say that we want to require they have a higher amount of insurance and we want to say that we're not adding them to

090our policy. That we can we'll notify our policy that they're running a business, but we're not adding them to our policy because we don't want them to be covered in any manner with us having any liability. And that's totally fine. Again, this is the first draft of the contract, so we can adjust it however we feel comfortable and present it back to them and say yay or nay. >> I I would say too submitting it to to our insurance company, they might have a problem with that, be like, whoa. Um, again, I submitted it to legal with the same thoughts as you. Legal was like, no, it's fine. This is what it means. So, I I'm trusting legal that they're, but I think getting a second set of eyes and having them look at it.

091Um, the other thing we can do if the board is okay with it is always talk with Heather. Um, she is potentially willing to look at something and has some legal insight that would be able to raise additional um awareness without costing us attorney fees. So, that's but she's not on the board. So you guys would have to get permission for us to speak with someone about something we're working on as a board. So >> I don't care. We do if we get some clarity on this. >> Yes. >> Not if they can provide their own insurance on their own with their own system then fine. >> Right. >> I wouldn't have an issue. >> And again I think our insurance company may come back and tell them what they want them to have. Um

092exactly >> because that is to cover them so that they don't have to pay out on their claim for us. >> I mean the overall effect if something happens affects everybody here utilizing the program. Agree. >> And it's not really a fail to do anything. >> Agree. >> And the other stuff. >> That's you. >> Yeah. Joe, >> I'm going to blow >> somebody. >> It's his blood sugar's going. I know what it is. Trust me, I know the beat. >> You know, >> stay in your chair. >> Um, so I guess that would be my ask if the board is comfortable. Um, >> motion, right? >> So, I guess my my thought process is a contract. Let's submit it to our insurance company. Let's let them cross off what they're concerned about. We can

093um I'm guessing there's a representative that I could talk to about our concerns. So, I can talk to a representative about our concern. Um we can make the additional marks that need to happen on that contract and send it back um to the to the childare company for their attorney to review and see if they're even interested or if they have a rebuttal of some sort that they want to consider. I think if they don't take the suggestion, my my move at that point would be to say, I think we need to table this because it's not going to be on time. Um, so if you, you know, we come back with our rebellion, they say absolutely not. It's something that's just a deal breaker. We just be done with it for this year and

094we'll revisit in the following school year. We'll just start earlier in the year next year. We're going to do it. Do you want us to present it without the morning program? Like, is that giving you too much concern with the stipulations right now if we only have a part-time janitor because of the budget? I would I would really like to find out what the need is in the community with a 7:00 start time to see if it's even feasible. because I do not think I can if it's earlier than 7 and in the winter I have a facility coming in at 6:30. That's just that was my concern is I think whether there's whether there's interest or not I don't know that we can cover it budgetarily. So that's kind of my thing is that

095let's just be real and not put ourselves in the position that there might be an issue. >> Will that change prices? Shouldn't >> because like I wonder about economies of scale here. >> I mean, as far as I'm concerned, if we told them we don't want we can't we're concerned about morning care because of budget concerns and all of that and they're like they you know they're like no I say fine then let's go done. Um I'm not going to change if you have that much of a concern about it. I'm not going to change my mind um and put us at risk because somebody because this business that wants to come run a company here doesn't like that they're not my concern. >> The other thing to think about is if in the next

096fiscal year if we are able to still have our custodial staffing at two two full-time people that changes the equation. Exactly. And I think starting out small is it's not a bad thing like it you know that we don't have the the concern of do we have enough people in the morning and do we have enough people in the afternoon. I think at this time only afternoon work for us and um we can re you know see how this year goes and then we'll revisit it next year and then next year we can talk about before and after and summer and you know all the stuff. So I think um you know with the amount of concern I think that there's some like we just go back to them and say I don't think before

097is going to work. >> Yeah. Yeah. curious to find out if that means that we have more in the afternoon. I know they say minimum of 8, but they also said in the thing that it was like >> it's like 16 in the afternoon. >> It's just said it's just based on their staffing from what they kind of explained to me. So they don't they've got to be able to pay people to be here. So if there's not enough people then they don't have to pay them, right? It's just after I think I think Sierra's point and I could be wrong is that if we are removing the morning program which is a potential source of revenue for that does that adjust our number from what I got from them a million times I feel

098like I've talked to them. I don't think so. Um but it's something that I mean we'll go back not saying let's say about the morning program and go willy-nilly. >> No it would be I would be asking all those questions. >> I would be curious I I mean I'm obviously So, we take away the morning, do we need more kids in the afternoon? And is there a chance that it's going to bump up the rates in the afternoon, too? I mean, I know we want to sit here and say no, but if you're cutting prices, if you're cutting up the morning prices, they're going to have to adjust somewhere else, which is only we did have a higher number of people who were starting at seven. Then we did 6:30 or 6. So seven might

099work out if we did decide. I I think we should find out at least off of based off of the community because really at the end of the day it's what the community needs and we need to have set them. I guess we're going to have to figure it out on the other side. >> Um I I think at this point I'll go back to them, but I think we're coming to a time frame here. We're talking about not putting out a survey until Friday. I don't know how long you're giving people to answer, but I think they're we're just coming to a time frame. So, it's getting to a point where I'm thinking it's this is probably not going to happen this year. Um, which is fine. Um but >> table information very I

100mean, I'm fine going to the table and presenting all of it to them and telling them. I mean, if if you're comfortable opening it up, then we can it it doesn't matter to me. I want to make sure that you're comfortable and that we're not at risk. So, I think we can present it if you guys are okay, we'll present it to the insurance company and get their feedback on the contract. While we're doing that, I was going to send out the another survey to see where we're at. She can include it. This is all going to be just gathering information at the same time. you just need to plan to have the ability to go back to them by next Friday um if we're going to do this because we need to be able

101to get the contract in front of them again um so that they can review it and then get back to us and say yes or no whether they think it's going to work for them again we'll have to have another meeting. So that that's the thing with the seven maybe you don't have to have another meeting. We would be asking for me and Sam to take the opportunity but you know what we have to >> you have to provide so many dates notice. So then we're providing more days. So I think that's the just mean that we're not starting on first day of school start date back to like October or >> I I would have to see I don't know that they're willing to start mid mid year. I'd have to check they said

102in the presentation that would have to All right. >> You know, send it to Primax. >> Yeah, we'll send it to if you guys want to send it to Primax. I agree with that. Like, we'll send it to Primax tomorrow. >> Yeah, >> we'll send it the contract. I mean, um, we'll send out the survey and then go from there. You guys just have to tell us like if we're having another meeting, then you tell me. And if you want to plan to have another meeting, pick a day now and say we're going to meet again and hopefully we'll have everything pulled together, but I we're talking about we're going to have to meet like in a week because there's no way that they're going to have time to get their business and all the

103licensing and everything. So there it's not going to come down to even negotiating anything. I think it's just they don't have the ability and I didn't hear a partic nudge. It was really helpful when you guys posted it to these pages. I get a lot more results that way. So, it is doable to have preliminary results before school lets out. And I also go back to them tonight and let them know that we're cautious about morning and we're cautious about um space and kind of just kind of get them processing through some of that so that we can see if you and I can meet with them and get the site direct the I mean the area director down here to walk the area because it's all great to have these conversations but have them

104walk um and see what we're like what we're working with and why we're concerned and see if they can next hopefully by the meeting Wednesday or something um to figure something out. All right. So, do we want to have another meeting or do you want me and Sam to move forward and just keep you guys updated via email? You tell me. >> I think that keep get information so that way we know we have everything all the eyes cross that then we can have the meeting. >> Well, that's my thing. We can't We we're running out of time. We can't if we don't plan the meeting now because we have to have so many meetings over by the meeting. That's what I'm saying. Let's plan the meeting and then we can always either cancel the

105meeting or >> or what have you. I mean, if I get all of this stuff back from the insurance company, they're like, "Absolutely not. We're going to not cover you anymore if you do this." Then then we're done. You like the worst case scenario, right? So, you know, I think at this point, if we just plan for the meeting, everyone here knows when the meeting is now. We'll post the meeting and we'll just say this is the the plan to have this meeting. If something falls apart, meeting to have a meeting, we cancel the meeting. But my concern is meeting here tonight and then having to plan a meeting. We have to give so many days notice and >> we're on a significant time crunch. >> What would be a date? >> What's the date

106you would like to think about? >> I know weeks can't be on Monday. So, I'm on vacation as of Tuesday until the following 26th with the exception of the hours about my other job. What is there a day that works? Is there any day that any of you know doesn't work for you? Let's start there. And the next week, >> I'm thinking like the end of next week would be a good time to do something >> on a Friday, Thursday. I I'd be fine with that if everyone else is fine. >> I will be out of town, but I can call in. >> Yes, >> I can do that. >> How quick would you send out that survey? Do you need time to pull the data together? Is it pretty easy? >> That's easy. >>

107Okay. Um Okay. So, we plan for Thursday. six. You do not have to die. >> I don't know. >> Yeah, whatever. >> I think so. I don't think >> Please. I'm not working tonight. Um, okay. So, what do you want to do? You tell me. Joe, what time can you be somewhere? >> What time >> on the 18th? What time can you be here? >> Whenever you need to be here. >> 3:00 a.m. >> No. >> All right. >> So, you want to plan for like 430? What? What works? What works for you? You say you're calling it, so you'll be available on any time. >> What time works for you? Time doesn't work for you. >> I do what works for you. >> Well, it is the day students get out. But if we

108are doing it at 4, I can make that work. >> We're going to make her school on the day her first day. I'll bring I'll bring you ice cream. >> Um there is I do my kid plays live football that is during the playoffs. So I won't know until he wins or loses his next game if I have even that day. A four should be early enough that it won't impact. Okay. Four. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Good with that. There will be a school board meeting on January 18th. >> June 18th. I'm sorry. I went way back to winter. June 18th at 400 p.m. It will be posted on We've been posting it on the website, um the Facebook page, door, the town page. So, it will be out there and I will go forward

109with presenting this back to Are you okay with Heather looking at the proposal for another set of eyes if she's willing? >> Okay. All right. So, I will reach out to Heather and see if she's willing to do that just for another set of legal eyes. Um, I will reach out to them and let them know that we're cautious about the morning program and just get some of their feedback and what they're thinking. Um, and that we'd like to have the area manager come down and talk to school with me and I and I will figure out a date with you and her hopefully before next Thursday that we can do that maybe on Thursday. >> Okay. All that wrap up school stuff. So, Thursday morning would be okay. >> Thursday morning. I will see

110if Okay, I will with you. If that doesn't work for them, we'll figure something out just so that we can get that clarified. Hopefully, we'll have answers. Sound good? >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Anything else about this lovely child? >> Okay. You really did. Jeez. I think we're competing with the schoolboard association. >> Um, all right. Bus driver. Okay. Um, so I had this added. I know that um Dave came last month um and shared his concern. So I don't know where we go with this. So Heather and I did meet after we formed the subcommittee um in October, I think it was, right? I think it was October. October, November. Um and met with this the bus drivers um they had kind of shared that um which we did. We pulled all the information. They

111were lower paid and then we worked on coming up with a proposed pay which I believe Heather presented in December. I wasn't here for that meeting. Um and then in January we voted to I think it was January we voted to either have it as part of the regular budget or to have it separately um and it was voted down to be separate. So it's ended up being part of our regular budget um which is what's led to getting the pay increase. They've been getting the cost of living um paying increase every year. Um but everything at this point because of the budget shortfall um that isn't in a contract which the bus drivers weren't because it wasn't made separately. Um it wasn't voted on separately and it's not an actual contract that their payments

112didn't go through. Um so I don't know. So that you know I I don't know what we do with that other than >> feel like it should be a separate issue. >> Agreed. And that's that was what I had proposed was it be a separate issue. Um it was actually start recommendation. >> Yeah, it was well we had voted to have it just be a separate thing so that it wasn't part of the actual operating budget and it wasn't voted through to go that way by the board. So that's kind of the debacle we're ask >> do next year and we can't do anything about it for this coming school year. >> Yeah. Um I I'm guessing place to >> no support for anyone else including she also I also did get raised this year

113because of the budget short. So I remaining at her her pay as well. U we went through and eliminated positions um that were not filled um so that we're not hiring for those positions. We cut the custodians to part time. Dave, you have the opportunity to talk because I added you so that you would have the opportunity to talk. I know if there's anything that we haven't >> um >> very hard to hear. >> I'm having a hard time even with the microphones hearing clearly. Um did the other board members get to prepare sheets that I given to you? >> I wasn't I wasn't here I wasn't here for the presentation but Heather had all that and Heather's very diligent. So I don't know you would have been on the board when Heather presented the

114information. Did she present all of the um comparisons and things like that you you know >> Yeah. When when Heather presented she we had all this. Do you remember? >> Yeah. No no that's Kelly. Do you remember what she presented? I wasn't here. So, >> that was a problem. I remember that they presented the scale, >> right? The scale that she was presenting based off of the all the numbers. I don't Yeah, I don't I don't know if she presented off of it. We took the scale that was created um that was proposed to the to the board off of the numbers that you gave us >> um on this paperwork. I got to get the copies if somebody needs them up there. One uh two in reference to what I'm asking for is is

115to set up a pay scale that's will work out well as far as you got new drivers coming in. They should be starting at at a certain level. I got 14 years and these new drivers coming in got >> the same thing. >> Less less qualifications me. I got a class B license with air brakes. I got 50 some odd children on my bus that I got to maintain order with and I feel with 14 years experience I should be getting a lot more than what I'm getting now. It's very embarrassing to be telling anybody else what I'm getting paid because it's so low. I yesterday I had an offer from another school district to come drive for them at 26 $26 an hour and they said when you're experienced we might be able to

116bring it up for you even higher and that's for driving a a van for one student to bring them out to a different location. I like driving to Middleton. I like my kids that I got on my bus. I'm blessed to be able to have the my elementary kids that I got because uh they are great. But I just like to get this pay scale straightened out and it's not really that much money. It ain't like I'm asking the it's going to cost the town I live in town um millions of dollars. It's very minimal to be able to put something together that would work out. There's only four drivers for Middleton. I think that's the problem that with the budget we have, we had an $800,000 shortage. We don't we don't have we don't

117have five cents at this point outside of the budget. Our budget is so ridiculously tight based off of the bud the the bottomline budget that we got for the from the town that we we don't have anything. We literally had to cut we went from having full-time custodians to part-time custodians. So, we're operating within the budget that the town has provided us, but there's no money there. If we had the money, we would be doing it. It the every one of us up here feels that the the pay scales and the proposal that we proposed to you and want it to go through, that's what we want for you. We just don't have the money to fund it. the um um at one point Middleton used to have three to four bus drivers and then

118because we lost the buses in not being able to get the help they get consolidated all the way down to two main drivers for the big buses. So my load is been increased my areas have been increased. uh it gets a lot louder on that bus and if the money was appropriated before in the past that cover three or four drivers and it wasn't if that wasn't deducted from the budget or whatever then there should be some additional funds here to compensate for those other three drivers or four drivers that we had. >> Every position that wasn't currently filled was omitted we everything was taken away. There's teacher positions that we've had. So there was a special education teacher position that was completely cut because we can't fund it. We don't have the money in

119the budget. Your the proposal that Heather put through in December and was voted on again in January was approved by the board to be paid. It just anything that's not an actual contractual obligation outside of like the teachers agreements and things like that. It we don't have the money. So we eliminated every position that wasn't filled. We cut our custodians to part-time. Ivy didn't take a pay raise this year while she's staying at the same pay raise. All the pairs are staying at the same pay rate because we don't have the ability to even do the cost of living increase for anyone that you guys have been getting. There's just not enough money in the budget that we have. If something comes available, we would be doing that. But at this point, there's nothing there.

120We're we're not even sure if we're going to have enough for everything we need. It's very very very close. something unexpected comes up. >> Um I don't think it really adds to the conversation, but I do want to mention that it's our care professionals, our um bus drivers, our kitchen staff, our custodians, and our um front office staff. quality because 24 hourly I think that is where the board has absolutely um come forward. We there were a lot of fall fall fruits that happened last year with budget planning. So that is something that the board is working to never have happen again um so that the budget committee has everything they need to make sure that we don't ever end up in this position again. um so that they actually understand what's required um and

121that they actually get the documentation that they can so that they understand and have everything they need to understand what we need to make this school run. Um so that we don't ever get put in this position again because we know where we're at and the risk that we're at with losing staff um because we don't have the ability to give them what they what they deserve and what we love to give them. We just don't have it um based off of the budget that was presented to us. So, I guess I mean I totally understand you need to you and the bus drivers need to do what you need to do, but we appreciate you. We value you. None of this is because we don't. If we have a way or find a way

122to be able to do that, we will absolutely do what we had hoped to do and give you guys the the raises that we had wanted to give you. We just don't have it. Um, and we will work with the budget committee to make sure they have everything to figure those in next year. Is there a different way that it could be submitted to the town for them to be able to vote on a raise for the bus drivers so it's not going to be tied in with the regular school budget because what I believe somebody made a suggestion this year to try to take them put the bus driver salaries separate. Yeah, I did that in >> and in which if it did then I think that would have got approved. But when you

123got the whole bundle that you had and the times people say wait a minute we're not going to pay a million dollars more. We're going to stick with this whole budget in turn we get smoked on that. Thank you. >> And so, and to be honest with you, not this school board here, but in the past, I've approached a different school board before about getting a raise. >> And I was basically told by one of the uh school board members. If you don't like it, get a job someplace else. >> Wrong answer. >> Yeah. No, we we wholeheartedly appreciate you and don't want you to leave in any way, shape, or form. None of us like the position we're in. None none of us like the position we're in with this budget. It has been

124gruesome and Ivy has pinched every penny she can. Um, you know, to try to figure out how to keep everyone that we can and not have to lay off teachers. Um, because those were kind of thoughts that we were thinking we were going to be in. Um, and thankfully we haven't. Um, and we were able to actually reallocate and figure some stuff out to actually keep a full-time nurse, which was another concern because we were going to have to cut our nurse over time. Um, but they were able to figure some stuff out there um with the new nurse that was um interviewed. So, that those are good things. Um, I think we'll keep trying. Um, but there's nothing that we can give you for a guarantee other than work diligently with the budget committee

125to make sure they have everything they need next year to give us a budget that allows us to give all of the staff what they deserve. uh between now and next fall and we got to be submitting in new budgets and that you want I will sit down with you folks. >> Yeah. >> Let me know how many people we got driving, what we're what the people's responsibilities are and what they're driving. If it's if there's going to be a minivan and they don't have the qualification to drive the big buses, then they give you something to work on and say, "Wait a minute. These people got more qualifications here. They ought to be in a different pay scale." >> Yeah. And I think it would be great too when we're doing all of that

126if you're willing to come be. I'm sure the finance people would love to have you at the budget committee meeting to help the budget committee understand kind of what you guys were facing and and you know the previous proposals that were as far as getting you guys what you deserve. And I think that would be great >> cuz we've lost drivers before to go drive a coast because they weren't making enough money. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And there are other school districts that are also going through the same same problem because they're not paying the drivers enough. They're not giving the benefits. So they going elsewhere because they got to support their family. >> Prices are going up, but I pay isn't. So it's everybody. This this budget has put us in a real position.

127>> So again, we're sorry that um unfortunately we ended up with the budget we did because is the fact that the, you know, the feedback we receive is the budget committee to get the information we needed to feel comfortable to to increase and give the numbers that we were looking for. So, all we can do is move forward and try to never put you guys in that position again. >> And we have a great crew here. So, I think I think we'll be in a better place, I'm sure. But, if you're willing to be a part of it, I think that we would love to have you be a part of that. If you want get come next fall when you start doing a budget and you want want I'll come down I'll sit with

128you folks you want to have a a committee meeting whatever that you mention get this going I'll sit back and help you structure what you need >> perfect well I don't know if you want to be here for August I think we'll start talking you lot the same thing last year in August we started talking about budget season and all of that and then you guys can coordinate what works um getting everything together. Perfect. And thank you because we appreciate the loyalty you had to us. I know that it's been hard for you guys and you haven't got what you deserve. So, thank you for the loyalty you show us, >> right? >> We really do appreciate it. >> Just give me informed what when or what have you and I will do what needs

129to be done. >> See you in August. >> All right. Well, I'm going to go. I got to be up early. 3:30 comes off the morning. >> So at the at the end of the year, the budget season. >> Mhm. >> We get a portion of our money back, right? >> Sure. >> I mean, what's that percentage? I don't remember. >> You get it all back, but there won't be any. >> Huh? There won't be any left this year before next year. >> Transportation line ahead. >> Go to the bottom line, Joe. >> So there's another month and yeah, we're almost at >> I'm just saying outside the block. If there is any >> we could use that for we can use that any way we want. Correct. >> You have to to the town.

130But at that point, we can ask the town. How does that work? >> I just think that there's a possibility >> when is that one because that we'll have a right. Yeah. More like September, October because all the come through, >> right? >> So, it would still be >> No, I mean, we still have bills from June. >> Yeah. Whatever. And the budget ends at June 31st. >> So, once it's all cleared out, everything's been paid at that point, we'll know that there is enough. >> Yes. September. >> Okay. It should be probably sometime in July or August. >> September. September. September. So in September like that if there's some money left over having a end of the year maybe so called bonus for the position drivers only maybe a preseason bonus because we're not

131affecting next year's budget at this point. This is this year's budget right give them a bonus and get them through the following year until we get this back on for a vote if it's possible to do that. The town has already agreed to put unreserved fund balance in different trusts with your warrant articles. >> So it has to go in other trusts. >> But I think we can we'll talk and see if there's a figure right now. I think like >> we got to get outside the box because I mean I think since I've been here even as a selector it's always been the bus have never gotten any. >> They're getting a 3% raise every year. They've been getting a 3% raise the cost of living >> a 3% below standard not. >> Yeah,

132we we had adjusted the pay rate. So they I think it was when the boards >> the last time I think we adjusted the pay rates to bring them up was when the board so it would have been what two years ago two years ago. Um and then they've been doing the 3% but and the All right. So, December 11th, 2019, the bus drivers got a $1,500 sign on bonus that was approved by the school board, which I'm guessing affected anyway. Um, because you you've driven since the school started for us. >> You've driven here since the school started. >> Since the school started? >> Yes. >> Yeah. So, the bonus didn't affect you. Um, and then in uh 28 of 2023, I think that was deliberative session, um, raises concern for the low bus

133driver wages during um, school board meeting for public input. And there was I'm guessing we I think we did a raise at that point cuz I would have fell for um 412 2023 the claim that the bus drivers were not given a 2019 increase was investigated and refuted as false meeting minutes and payroll records showed that the increase was given. Bus driver wages were $20 an hour approved by the school board effective come the upcoming pay period. So that was when we brought you to 20 back in 2023. 514 2025, the school board will discuss 2023 wage increase for bus driver riders with a plan to review all wages in August. In 2025 um in preparation for the upcoming budget season 813 2025, school board reviewed uh wages and all bus drivers were brought to

1342122 910 2025. the finance committee um discussion of the buffers increase for $20 for 2023 to60 and then for 2020 in 2024 and then 2122 for the 2526 school year. So it looks like we were just reviewing what had been discussed on that day. um 10:225 emo from the business administrator um to schoolboard chair sharing that the governor had a fourstep salary schedule um based on your experience from comparison 11 12 2025 date approved proposed a bus driver wage increase um during public input school board motion um for Miss McDera Miss Prim was to meet with the bus drivers to discover to um discuss the driver wages 1210 2025 the school approved a new bus driver um wage scale for the 2026 school year based on your experience, vehicle type, and licensing type ranging from

13520 to $29 an hour. That was the proposal that had made and um that we worked on with you. 127 2025, the school board approved adding $26,56 wage line of the school board proposed into the $6.8 million 2026 2027 operating budget for the new bus driver wage scale. And then 112 1113 Middleton budget committee approved $6 million operating budget to be presented to the voters. Um the school board had presented a $6.8 million. Uh on 39 2026 the Middleton voters approved the $6 million operating budget. And then um last month Dave Pru stated that he received a 2026 contract with no increase during public input. It's correct that raise was issued a 2026 school year contract. employee outside of the teacher CDA received a COLA raise or any other increase due to budget reduction. This

136includes pair professionals, bus drivers, food service custodians, administrative assistants, and the principal. Uh so this kind of a play out. So yes, that was what was presented. The school board did approve it, but unfortunately because of the budget limitations, there's just no way for us to fund it and it's not a contract. So that was what everything that was in a contract had to be taken out of the budget. >> And for your knowledge, you asked about when I was driving when the school started prior to this school opening up. I was Middleton's bus coordinator for two to three years down. >> So >> yeah. Yeah. It was just because they did this. I don't know. I guess I wasn't here for the signup bonus. Ty was here 2019. >> Yeah, me I wasn't here.

137I came >> 2014 I believe is the year that started off coming to the new school here. >> You took >> 2014 2015 >> you took my my position >> for three years before you started. So that's what it was. >> Perfect. All right. Um, so we'll touch base with you if you want to be here for August for that meeting. We will start working on figuring out budget season. Um, because we're going to start early so that we can get this taken care of um, next year and not be in this situation. All right, I'm going to move forward in the essence of time um, academic affairs committee. No, >> I do have one question. Um, just one question. I was because their social media is new and I cannot remember. So, Kathy, please

138tell me if I'm wrong. Do we have a policy regarding social media currently? >> Okay. So, can we create one? >> Yes, you can do that. >> Yeah. an academic affairs meeting. >> Okay. >> So that'll be for next time. >> Okay. Yes. So we will need to schedule an first meeting because you don't have currently. >> You would do you probably want to do that with your um schedule for next year because you'll have that and then you'll do your first and second. So we can just add it to the list of your first group. >> Perfect. Test it. community relations. >> Um, we are up to 72. >> Where are you growing? >> We have so many followers. Well, I think it's great. I'm not a I'm not a follower of Cher, but

139I think it's great because I think it's more than followers, it tells me that the town is hearing um the information that they put out there, which I think is huge. Um we've worked diligently to improve communication um and make sure that things are more accessible to the community. So, I think anything and everything we can do um is great and I think it's just showing success that um our group is growing so that they can actually get access to things um in the community. Did you get notifications daily that we have? >> Okay. Advancing. >> Yes. Just a few upcoming dates. So, uh, we have, uh, Kingswood Regional High School graduation this Friday at 6:00 p.m. And cross your fingers is going to stay clear, but the rain day is the next day, the

14013th at 10:00 a.m. Grade 6 promotion, as I mentioned, is on the 17th. That's also the last day of school, excuse me, which isn't quite release. And your next school board meeting is currently scheduled for your regular scheduled board meeting on August 12th at 6 p.m. That's all I have. Any other dates? I can thank you again. Wait, >> save it all for the end. >> I'm sitting right next to the thing so I'm like I don't know. and I can talk loud enough. >> Here's your mic. >> Sean, thank you. >> Um, so my first question is you were talking early on responses from last month's meeting which I was unable to attend. Um, in regards to legals, the legal from the schoolboard association recommended uh to not respond to people for public input.

141Do we? So, my question is is do we have a policy that says that that's what we do? Can I get a copy of that for the next meeting of that policy? policy. >> So, it's a policy that states that it's restricting public comment back to us. Is that correct? Is that on the website? I can go off. Um I just I just find that very um my next question is I see in our on the financials it's um we've over spent on the special education line. Are we going to go back to the CRF to to apply for the to apply to that deficit on the on the special education on I think it's page one it shows that on the tuition other LEAs we've over spent um 16 168,000 are we going to

142because you had asked earlier whatever if we we've taken money from the CRF and that's been applied against this, I'm guessing. I'm not really sure. Um, are we going to request more money from the CRO to offset this 168 168,000 deficit because then that will obviously have an effect on the bottom line because right now I think it's only 20. It looks like you have an budget balance of 26,000. So if you add that 168, would that then allow for to pay some of those um warrant articles how we do it like the bus, the building and whatever. So um >> well Oh, where does the running club where do they run? I'm just curious. >> Where does the running club run? I'm guessing it's they run and I'm just curious in town here where

143they run on I was just curious. >> It's right around the outside. >> Yeah. >> Oh, so they don't run. Oh, so it's just on on the school property. >> We are working on getting safety vests so that we can have a bigger thing. >> I was just curious. >> I think it's I think it's a great idea. It's a good way for kids to get some energy out. She said she got I just know that. Oh, I do have one last thing. Sorry, I didn't brought the mic back. Um, I'm sure I don't know if you're all aware of because I was on the phone with Dr. the other day for the town side. Um, SB bill SB300, the tax cap imposed on schools could is potentially going to be on the ballot for

144the state. So, if you struggling now, I think you might struggle a little bit more. But just something to be aware of which I think DRA is kind of up in arms because the gentleman that I talked to he's like oh my gosh if this happens you know because then they have to stringently look at how if they've stayed within the tax cap and all of that stuff. bear of good news. Can I say >> I have a question? >> What are you guys going to do if Dave decides to take that other job and the other one quits? You guys are going to be in a pickle and you're going to have parents all over the place at you. Cuz honestly, I think at least these bus drivers should be the same old girl

145and they're not. They're lower and they don't have all the uh different things. I mean, people are going to do what they what they have to do for their families. So, you only have bus drivers, right? >> I don't know. It's just a thought. >> Your thoughts are not fun. >> Well, and I haven't done a thought about the child care thing. You guys are You seem like like trying to push this through really fast and I hope nothing messes up or that they come and they decide midway through the year they can't do it and like the other time and the parents are all you know at the last minute trying to find daycare because the other one pulled up halfway through the year. >> They sure did. Y >> okay closing. Any other

146input represent you? Um, >> I have one more suggestion. >> I'm sorry, Roxan. That was unfair. >> Can we possibly move the chairs up closer to you guys because when you guys are reading stuff off, you're reading so fast that the echo just mumbles everything up. Poor Dave kept asking me what you were saying because you were reading so fast and then just the echo overlaps the words. So I think if we could just move the chairs up a little bit, people could hear better. >> Yeah, that's great. >> That's an easy fix. >> What? Oh yes, but I was on a school board. We did it in the library, so everybody was pretty close, so everybody could understand perfectly. >> Yeah, we can't use that. >> No, but I mean, you can just move

147the chairs up. >> Yeah, you can slip up. That's no problem. >> Thanks. I'll be quiet now. >> Good. You all can talk. You have any more? >> No. >> All right. You didn't get all your minutes the board. You can talk if you need to. All right. Moving into closing comments from the board members >> Sam closing comments close. >> Does anybody else know that the poems were really good? Yeah, they were >> they were rather looking that way so nobody can see. >> I was like >> I will have I will know a suggestion about the poems if they do that every year sixth grade. I would suggest maybe they videotape it so you can watch it here because not everybody can make it. So, I just think that would be kind of

148a nice thing to do >> maybe potentially is videotape them during the day reading their poem and then you can present it here. If someone wants to come and >> read it, that's fine. But at least Jen, you're getting your whole graduating graduating class or whatever. You know, I mean, >> we want to see them all. >> Grandparents would love it if they don't live here, too. >> So, just a suggestion. >> I won't suggest. >> There you go. All right. Um, I second and third what everybody else said about the poems. They were really awesome. Um, also on behalf of all of us, I want to acknowledge that this is in fact Caroline's last meeting and um, we want to wish you the very best. >> Also, I want to congratulate all of the

149students. Well, all of the graduates, but especially the students, which me reminds me Roxan, I did email the um registar to get a list for you, >> but um she has not responded yet, but when she does, I will email it to you. >> That's fine. I don't need any stuff for next year's book, but I like to have it because I say, you know, whatever. How many graduating students do we have in Middleton? Just curious. >> I was just curious. going to say off the top but >> oh my friends >> I I want to from all of us congratulate all of them >> and also >> 18 >> that's a lot of fun >> I think so last year and so that's awesome. So congratulations. She said last year one of the years

150recently there were only 12 graduates >> back in the day. >> Great. Um also uh there was a Middleton student who was in the top five SAT scores for the school. So congratulations to him from us also. >> Awesome. I would also like to thank I know you have worked hard with us and we appreciate you and I wish you luck at my um I graduated from Marshall. So sure did. So >> great school. I was in the old school like >> I don't know the one in Elliot. I don't even know what it is now. >> The middle school. >> Is it the middle school? >> That's usually how that works. I don't know. school. >> They've changed school. So like what what was my middle school I think is now like sixth grade.

151>> Yeah. Like there's so much changes. So good luck. It's great school. We love it. Um and we will you know we're grateful for everything you do. So we do appreciate you. Um I know you worked you you worked hard with us. So we appreciate you for that. >> Um and I think the kiddos did a really great job. I do the the poems is one of my favorites. hearing their impression of what were their big moments because our big moments are never the same as our kids big moments. The things that are hugely important to us don't always line up. So, it's always fun to hear what they what they took from their experience. And I will um take a motion to move into non-public for personnel. >> So, moved >> at 8:18. >>

152I need a second. >> Second. Sierra second. Yes. Um and then all in favor by Rob >> I. >> Sierra Sam >> Joe >> Kelly >> Rebecca I thank you guys. We appreciate you. >> Yeah. She asked Josh work.