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Special School Board Meeting 5/26

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2026-06-03
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Carroll County, NH
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001Okay. >> Good evening. I call the school board meeting to session at 601. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. So, moving into this meeting, we have one item on our agenda, and that is just to learn a little bit more about the champion before an after school program that is um being looked at to hopefully start in our district um next school year. Um so, giving everyone an opportunity to hear a little bit about it. They've created a PowerPoint and then we will go into public comment and let people ask questions. So, I will turn it over to you, Heather and Alexis.

002mute yourself. So, all right. Can you say hi now? >> Here we go. >> Again, but I got to book my speakers. So, it's definitely a thing. This is what happens when you test the technology. It worked 30 seconds ago. >> Okay. Can you say hi? >> Nope. Now we can't hear you. Well, >> blasted on this instead. There we go. All right. Go ahead. Hi everybody. >> Hello. >> What's up? >> Thanks. Thank much for calling this evening. My name is Heather and I have been working with Ivy and Rebecca to kind of develop a program a before after school break summer kind of option for your school. I also have Alexis with me, which is probably the most important person outside of your group, uh, because she is the area manager that handles

003all of our champion sites in New Hampshire as well as part of Massachusetts. Uh, she is going to be able to answer I'll run through the PowerPoint very quickly, but between Alexis and I, we're going to be able to answer day-to-day questions, kind of in the lead questions that any parent or administrator may have, community member, that's what we're here for. We want to make sure that you guys comfortable kind of moving forward um in regards to just bringing in a a provider to help support those kiddos out of school time. Okay. >> All right. So, we are on phase one. So, this is like I said I'm going to run through this very briefly. What champions is is we are before school after school breaks. So what we're talking about behind mentioned breaks is

004we're talking about those PD days, those extended full breaks, so winter break, fall break, spring break, and then as well as summer. So we cover all of that um in regards to other school care. We manage all of the hiring of the staff. We pay all of the benefits. We manage all of the family schedules, all of the payments. All of that runs through Alexis and her team. As well as partnering with the states uh in regards to child care vouchures to help support families uh that could that qualify and that could just use that extra extra little support. Let's go to page and I mean I'm not sure if this page two for you or what that looks like but >> champions >> we're going to make this work. >> Perfect. Champions in your

005community. So as you can see we are a kind of a under the umbrella of Kinder Care. Kinderare is a childare provider that has as it says on the screen largest childare provider in the entire country. Um our focus today is just on the champion side of the house. We do have currently five and Alexis is different five programs in the state of New Hampshire but we've been in the northeast for over 30 years. Um it's just kind of give and take of where we are and where it fits for schools and school districts. Um, go to the next >> and build to adapt. >> Perfect. And I apologize. I'm moving I'm moving my screen around too just to make sure that I cover everything. Alexis, do you want to Can you see this slide?

006If not, do you want to I'm going to take you in because again, this is your sweet spot. This is I could talk all day, but Alexis, like I said, she is she's the star there. She's a specialist. So, let's go through the build to adapt. >> Yeah. So, um one of the great things that I got to show when you guys came to visit us in Northwood, um we want to make sure that our kids are busy doing something at any hour that they're with us. Um we don't want them to champions and just sitting down miserable at a table. They've just been at school all day. We want them all ced. We want them having fun. We wanted to get them when we can um to the gym if it's raining outside, but

007we especially want to make sure they always have something to do. So, um on here you'll see some really good examples of our interest area carts. So, they are chalk full of any funding that you can imagine for our kids. Um we have player math and science center. We have a creative arts. We've got a little library for the kiddos that might just want a few minutes to themselves. Maybe they don't want to be sitting at a table with a bunch of other right now. Um, we have building in construction so they can like they can play with magnet tiles for a little bit. We have specific activities that go with the carts too just to make sure that they're engaged with something. Um, and kind of the best part of all of our stuff

008is on wheels, right? So today there's a school board meeting. If you were set up that day and you needed us out a little bit earlier, we could just roll on over to another part of the school if we had to. Um, has a special event going on, no problem. We can roll a lawn over to a different part of the school. As long as we're licensed for it, we can move. Um, we're all about the flexibility and adaptability of the program. Um, we take care of all of our own marketing as far as like providing signage for the school, which is great. Um, you know, we have specific areas that we like to kind of, you know, pair a pickup door for little champion sign up, but we provide all that for the school.

009will provide all the flyers. Um, we've got our family communications board so every pick up and drop off, families know what's going on. They know, okay, today's the day that I've choosing a schedule for the next week. Um, there's a snack menu on there, so we know what the kids are going to be eating, what curriculum need. Um, we've got all that good stuff ready to go, movable, adaptable, um, wherever we need to be. It's going to come with us. So that is kind of a run through on the stuff. >> All right, let's go to our teachers. >> Got it. >> Thank you. Again, you guys could do enough poweroints. We really want to get to your questions. So, um are and Alexa tackle this one, but please feel free jump in if I

010miss something super important. So for us, like we said earlier, is we do all the hiring and retaining. Um, one of the biggest things that we do and Alexis does a great job of it is look first at your school community. So if you have parents, if you have people, if there was a program already running in place and you had you give us those recommendations to interview that staff, um, that that's the first kind of level of where we want to go. They have to meet our qualifications because again we are licensed to the state and we have our qualifications um have to abide by that those regulations but we absolutely want to first hire staff based in the local community that is in the school if at all possible. Um from there in

011certain parts of champions we have again a dedicated recruitment team. So, if we needed to go broaden the scope outside of the school community into the city theater, the town next a next door neighbor town, absolutely, that's what we're going to do. Uh, our teachers all go through our onboarding and training experience. Ideally, what we'd love to do is try to get them uh to 25 hours per week. So, that's a combination of before and after school. What that allows us to do is offer them full-time benefits because this this schedule is a little, you know, as you know, it's it's light on the hours, but if we can get to 25 hours a week for full time, um, we we offer them benefits and you can see there that it's medical dental vision. The

012nice thing about this and the reason that schools work with champions outside of doing their own program is because we take, like I said, we take all of that onto our budget where the not having to use the overtime or pay their teachers extra for having to work those hours. Um the other thing is if we have local a couple of different things is if we have local kindergart centers and we have that age each age each age each age each age each age each age each age each age each age each age of kiddos from zero through five our childare centers we're going to make sure that everybody has access to a tuition benefit that allows them to get a discount into daycare. Um, all right. Let's get this back over to us. Let's

013jump into the next two slides are prek curriculum and then our school age curriculum. So, we can probably tackle both of them together. Um, we just wanted to give you a snapshot of what this looks like. And if anybody in the audience today needs uh more indepth information, I can send you, it's kind of a dry read, but I will send you a full document that's about 20 20 pages long, almost an RFP level response, but it's going to give you everything that you possibly have questions on after our video. Okay. >> Yeah, if you could do that, that would be great. That way, we can get that on our um site to share with anyone who couldn't be here today. >> Yeah. Okay. All right, Alexis, let's roll through the curriculum if we can.

014>> Yeah. So, uh, the fun thing about our curriculum is it's all like inquiry and actually based learning, right? Again, getting kids before they even started their day, fully woken up and they've already been at school all day. So, it's not, you know, us sitting there reading from a book, making them do worksheets. It's all activity and inquiry based. Um, so our curriculum is really just it's units that we have kind of all tried and true ones that the kids tend to really like year over year um where we'll get to decide a unit that they're going to be working on, but it's all created when it comes to what the site director is really going to do with that unit. We have very specific plans in place for those who might be like a

015little stuck for a unit. We have anything that they can imagine to take from the book, but they're also empowered to tailor it to the kids that are at that specific site. Um which most of them choose to do. So if they have a group of kids that are really like really nature leading, you know, anything that we do in our unit might be tailored to that. Um so it's very creative. It's very tailored to each site specifically. Um same thing with like homework helps, things like that. We have some schools that don't have homework. So we're not going to set up a homework station because the kids don't have homework. So we might set up like an extra addendum to the library instead. But the curriculum is super flexible with how we do it.

016But we do have things in place just to make sure those kids are staying engaged. Um, and like I said, we have our interest areas, too. We have a friend who is not into the activity of the day. We do not force anybody to do anything, but we make sure they have options of what else they can do in the meantime to keep themselves busy. Um, but kind of like mentally go through the books line by line. I'm happy to do that to you. But um if anybody has any specific questions about it, I'm absolutely welcome to um hop in on that, but it's very tailored to students that we have at a given time. Um we like to let them phone number if they're too like if if we're torn between two activities, we're

017going to have the kids help us decide something that day. Um, and there's a manual for each kind of season. Um, like I said, just to make sure that there's something at any given time. I love that. And I think too what we try to do in Alexa, please, correct me if I'm wrong, is we try to align it to what is being taught throughout the school year. So, at the beginning, I this one always stands out to me because I have kids in elementary school is at the beginning of the school year, they have a unit which is about building community, right? So, as we know, I have a fourth grader that's going to move into fifth grade, sixth grader moving into seventh grade. It's those first like four to six weeks are pretty

018intense as far as finding the people and what does the school new classroom look like. Champions and Alexis and her team do a phenomenal job of kind of aligning that to what you guys are working through during that time of the school um school year to make it, oh yeah, we're building community. I can have friends outside of my classroom and all of that as well as setting expectations. Um they do a wonderful another unit that stands out to me is a weather unit. So that that's pretty exciting for kids. It's like oh I can build this or I can do this. Um and then the final piece again as a parent just coming off of assessment season in the in the elementary school. My son had my fourth grade son had an assessment every

019day for two weeks. Um, so with that, we have a literacy booster as well as a math booster in admission. So if there's some extra support needed, Alexis and the team on the ground will work with you, Ivy, and and any other team members, they're like, "Yeah, we could use a little extra support on the math side or a little extra support on the reading." And what that looks like is again, we have the curriculum in place is is there as structure. So, we always have activities, but it's customized to each school community. I think we don't highlight that enough because it does feel like, oh, I'm just getting this out of the box, but that is not true at all. Alexis and their site directors do a phenomenal job of everything's community based. It's

020what it is that you guys need. Um, and then we tailor it to that. Alexis, you're fine. We all have everybody's dealing with kids. We all have kids working with kids. So, >> all right. Should we any questions there? Do you want to I mean you want to hold the questions till we're all the way through. >> I'm fine with doing questions if anybody has any questions. >> We want to pause for a minute and see um do any of the board members have any questions thus far? Anyone in the audience have questions thus far? All right. Okay. If anything pops up, just let us know. Nobody on camp. >> Yeah. Again, this is just again, this is not something I think we spoke to heavily as a as a group, but these are two

021different options that we've run in the summer. Um, champ camp outdoors is not sure I don't know if we have one in the area, but that one is kind of more it's different than our normal summer camp. So, what I want us to focus on is the one on the right hand side. That is our summer camp that's on school grounds. It And we're working with the same teachers, same group of kiddos, but they level it up uh to make it more fun because obviously they're there all day. And I'm going to let Alexis speak to it because I know she has some summer camps coming up already. I can't even think that it's summer, but here we are. Um yes, our champ camp is like the best time of the year for me personally.

022Um but it's full day camps um in the summer. The only time we don't operate is like 4th of July or the day before. But other than that, um, as long as the school will let us use the space as long as we'll run summer camp. Um, it's full day programs. It's usually like 7 to 5:30. Um, we plan out the whole day ahead of time. Um, I have four camps this year to combine brunch uh, together. And I mean, we've had all of our plans in place really since like February, March. um so that we can send out all those super fun calendars for everybody. Uh we do field trips, we have vendors come in. Um but similar where we still have our curriculum going like each week is a different theme. Um but

023it's all about it's pretty much an extension of the school year but way more fun. Like we have water play. We'll set up some sprinklers. No rules or anything like that but we'll set up water balloons and sprinklers for the kids. Um so they can still enjoy their summer while they're with us. We don't want them to feel like they're stuck in a daycare, stuck with a babysitter. We want them excited to show up every day. So, they're going to walk into like bubble machines and music every morning. We have like a camp rally. Um it's super super fun. Um and this year we're also piloting a lot of fun programs too with uh outside organizations that are coming in and doing um certain weeks with us. We have like a youth athletic one. There's

024an innovation one. There's a lot of fun things that summer just keeps getting bigger and bigger every year. So um it's it's a big time. >> Absolutely. I think one that we're they're working on and we don't have it everywhere is um potent I say potentially so I'm holding to it is Lego in the future. So my son Ryan was obsessed. He's doing a bunch of Legos. So that those are the kind of the partnerships that they're working towards is to just bring it in more off electronics at hand and eye coordination activities building social you know communities things like that. So all right let's head into included in services and you'll this is where I I apologize ahead of time assignment I will send out that document that has much more information on it.

025What Alexis and I want to get across is that we absolutely do have inclusion services. We have teacher resources available. Um, and I'll let Alexis speak to it a little bit more as what that looks like on in a school site or in a champions program. And you may have even seen it when you visited a site. But just know that our teachers are not alone. They have these skills. They have the training. And then um if something feels that they need extra support, we have a team at our corporate level and Alexis all the way up that can provide that support to the teachers on the ground. >> Yeah. Um I would say services is my favorite resources that we have. Um if we have somebody that needs an extra little bit of support

026while they're with us, they are the people on the back end helping us figure it out, especially if we can't. Um, obviously our first line of defense facilities is, you know, if we have somebody who's having a rough time, we're going to communicate with the families first. Hey, is there anything going on that we can come up with? What works at home? Um, but if everybody's stuck or it's just something that's different from the school day or even if it's the same during the school day, we reach out to folks over at inclusions. Um they can help us if somebody's experienced a traumatic event and they if we know ahead of time like hey you're going to be on champions for a little bit but when they come back things might look different we can

027reach out to them ahead of time and they're going to give us those support tools on how to make make things easier and better for that kid when they come back. Um if we have somebody who's just struggling with some behaviors that we reach out to them within 24 hours, we connect with them. We, you know, we can only diagnose a problem so much, but they give us all the tools we need to support them when they come back. Um a behavior plan sometimes something that we need to partner with the school or the family on. Um but it's it's the best resource we have to make sure that we can have as many in our program as possible and so that nobody's feeling left out. It really teaches the staff how to be as

028inclusive as possible so that it feels normal for the kid. We don't want everything to be a show like, "Hey, come to the side. Come look at this chart with me. What do you feel?" We don't want it to be like that. We want it to be like a very natural flow to things. Um so we have like calming corners where we'll set up tents. Um all they have to do is kind of just like look at it, let us know that they need a minute. they can go off into their tent um where we'll have some sensory stuff for them. Um and again, if we have a kid who has very specific needs when they're having a rough time, we accommodate that, too. They some kids have their own break boxes if they need

029it. Um or it's stuff specifically for that friend. If they are having a tough time, um we're we really do everything we can to make sure that they can be comfortable and happy and safe in our program. So, it's my favorite resource for sure. >> Oh, and since when we came and saw you, you shared a story, too, where you had a child that needed a onetoone PAR. Um, and you guys work with some of your resources to be able to help the family with a scholarship for that PAR so that that child could remain in the program. Can you share a little bit more about that with us? >> Yeah, absolutely. So, if if we get to a point um and usually that it's pretty far down the line, like if we worked on

030a behavior plan and making a contract for a while and we're just like this is, you know, either a not safe for that student or for the teachers, but the family really needs to care with us. Um, if they need a one-on-one if we get to that point where it's like, okay, you can still attend, but the family needs to provide a one-on-one. We totally understand that that's like an added expense for the family. Um, and that's not what we want. We're not about, you know, trying to nickel and everybody everything they've got. So if we ever reach a point where champions can't support that student on their own, then yeah, we will typically um work on a scholarship opportunity so that we take care of the tuition so that the family can take on

031the expense of adding a one-on-one for champions. Um and it's a case by case basis of course, but typically if if somebody really needs us, we're going to be there for them. Um but yeah, in that case if somebody needs a one-on-one, we will usually work on a scholarship opportunity. >> Thank you for that. >> Something I just learned. Yeah, that's something I just learned myself. >> Yeah, I bet that um we have brilliance in the basics. >> Yeah, let's let's cruise through. Right. So brilliance is the basics again when it comes down to When it comes down to a before and after school program, a summer camp, um again, I lean into being a parent. What is the most important thing for me is one that my kids are safe. Uh two that you

032know the program is following all the regulations that they're saying they are. What we at Alexis do a great job of is all all of this is posted so parents can see it. They're well aware of, you know, those guidelines, what we're looking at. We also ask the school to be to participate in any additional safety training. If there's something above and beyond what it is that we're doing, we we want to understand what you guys are doing and what you require of your teachers because our teachers want to be a part of your community. The engagement side again is we all back to communities. We want to be a part of your PTO, your PTA. We want to be a part of your back to school night. if you're welcoming in a kindergarten group

033or at the end of the school year when you're doing, you know, field days, all of that, uh, our champion team phenomenal job of showing up, even if it's during the day, that that's where we want to be. We want to make sure that everybody knows our teachers and feels safe with it. And then the program itself, again, looking at it from a parent perspective, I I want the flexibility of being able to change my schedule weekly, which is what we allow our families to do because things um where you have you know family in town and you're just not don't need that care um for whatever that looks like is you can schedule you know two weeks is it two weeks Alexis or is it weekly now >> it's weekly so you have until

034the end of the day Wednesday to make your schedule for the following week which is great >> perfect and again we're not locking everybody into five days a week it is you you have the ability to select the days that you need care for I think that's really important And then the other piece is just we really want to listen to you all and understand what it is that you need. Um we do a great job of keeping everybody safe. We do attendance regularly. We have staff to teacher ratio is always in in ratio because of the licensing. Um they take attendance as as often as possible if they're changing. Let's say they're changing to playground instead of being in the gym. They're going to make that they have everybody into. If you guys have

035clubs, um let's say there's a chess club or a uh kids meet or in a music class that's kind of running after school and we have to bring them over and bring them back. That is also something that our teams are really good at at managing is to make sure that we have everybody uh that signed up for the day. If a child is sick, uh let's say they go home sick and they're on Alexis's schedule for the day, she will call your mom, she will call mom and dad or the parent and guardian just to kind of find out where they're at and make sure that if they're not supposed to be there, that's okay. But we want to make sure that they're safe and they're okay. Alexis, anything there? I don't want to

036destroy the biggest chunk of it. Um but it's yeah the safety is definitely the biggest piece and that's the biggest part of my job too. So that's where I come in. Um we'll have a site director at every location. So you're supposed to have a site director. Um but it's al it's my responsibility to stop in and make sure that we're following everything that we need to follow. If the school has any concerns, I'm the one that's going to bring that. I mean obviously if you can bring it right with the site director and it's super fast, great. if it's something um that APR should support with, I'm the one that you come to to have that conversation. Um or even if things are going really great, we want to let you know what these

037do. Um but from the safety piece and the licensing piece, that's where I come in to come in, make sure we're following all of the regulations for childcare licensing. Um our licensers are really great partners with us so that if we have questions, we always have someone to reach out to as well. Um but the the health and safety definitely the biggest part um where we collaborate the most with families in our app. We also can communicate directly with families now which is great. Um but yeah, I think for the most part though we covered the majority of the Berlin's amazing stuff all encompassing in the whole slideshow. It was all leading to that. So >> all right, let's go to making your school year easier just to circle this all up is the goal

038of champions is to be flexible. It's to focus in on what your school needs, what your families need. Uh and then we customize around that. We want to support your teachers throughout the day and how we do that. It looks a little bit different, but we have right we have those engaging activities. we have those literacy and math boosters uh just to help, you know, not only keep them engaged, but hopefully make make their school time a little bit more fun. And that also kind of jumps into that learning loss. Is is there a way that we can help kind of close that gap for you guys within the activities and the units that we have? Yes, absolutely. There are some areas that we can do it. Um we know that's a big piece. The

039other thing we didn't touch on is social emotional learning. I think we have all been living through just a lot these last five years. Uh and they do a phenomenal job of not only including every you know but allowing them to have their own choice and their own voice and then also helping them understand and regulate like what it means to live in a community and what within a community of kids and adults. Um and then that last piece is talking again about childcare benefits is your staff if they have kids this age group, they can use the before school, they can use the after school, they can use the breaks the summer. Um, and there's there's a discount for that. And then if we do have a kinder care center that's close and they

040have that age group, we want to make sure that we're extending that benefit to them as well. All right, that is in a nutshell very quickly what champions is in only 10 slides, but truthfully again, Alexis and I are here to answer those questions that have popped up since we've been talking since February. I believe maybe you have more questions after you visited the site that we didn't get to. Anything that you guys have, that's what we're here for. >> And you guys are your faces are back on the big screen, just so you know. Okay. >> I think a couple questions that they've had. How many kids would we need to have um enrolled to get started? >> Good question. So, obviously when we start, we know it's going to be smaller. Ideally, what

041we want to operate and I was able to get this changed a little bit for us because I think I Please correct me and Rebecca correct me. You You have more of a need for after school than you did before. Is that correct? >> That is what our community indicated in a survey I put out. About a third of families respond to that and it was primarily an after school thing. Although there are certainly pockets of need among families for before care as well. >> Gotcha. Okay. So, and that's why I went back and changed it. So, before school ideally our target or minimum is going to be eight kids um on average per week. So that can sometimes look like four kids a day. That can sometimes look like 12 kids a day. But

042that the eight is the target to keep that portion of the program running. And then after school, the target is 16 kids. Again, that can be a combination of two part-time kids with a full-time kid. But that's that is the target in order to make sure that we're covering all of the champions expenses, the teacher wages uh for a sustainable program. >> I think another question that I heard um was asked at this school board meeting was, is there any risk with Middleton of an out-of pocket cost for this? Is there any risk of us being charged anything? I think the biggest issue or concern for you all would be if the minimums aren't met. That is one of the discussions we had earlier is there is going to be a gap. So in order

043for champions to come in and and operate those minimums have to be met after 90 days or yes there could be potentially a charge back. What I don't want to see happen is I will tell you we have yet to make that charge for the small schools that we operate. We just know that that that is a risk. The other thing is I will absolutely provide you with um private grants that you guys can go after as a school to just kind of beef up that side of it. And that doesn't mean that you have to pay for kids to come into the program. That funding could be used other things to do enrichment, but um we do have some private grants that are tied to state and federal, which is a blessing um that

044I can send your way. They're easier to go grab. What would that cost look like if that ends up happening? So, it's going to be Good question. And I I can't give you an exact amount because it's going to be calculated on how many kids are showing up um per week. So, our target is they're not going to they're not going to enforce it for the first 90 days. That's going to give us a really good idea of where we're at of doing as much marketing as we possibly can and getting the the enrollment up. And Alexis, she does a phenomenal job of working with the teams to make that happen. And then they're going to re-evaluate. I will say this again, I I do have a lot of small schools in the Northeast in

045kind of your world. They have not charged it yet. Um because they understand kind of the the hill that you guys are dealing with as far as just being a small school and trying to put something together. Um so within that first year, I I said I get to see them actively charge anything back to a school. And you guys bring all the supplies. There's no cost to the school to start the program. >> That is correct. Uh I think the current tally on the with inflation um is it's around like $27,000 worth of materials that we provide to the schools. That is all the rolling carts, all the rugs, all the all the things along with all of the art supplies, the library books, the um science activities. All of that is within that

046that full 27,000 of materials and then we will restock as needed. None of that gets charged to the school. >> Can I ask a question? >> Yeah. >> Um how does the recruitment and marketing work? Is that something that falls to the school or is that something that you guys handle? question and I'll have Alexa dig into it. I'll answer you do not have to do any of that. Um we are going to lean on you for two things. One, recommendations of people that either are looking, you know, their parents and they're looking for extra hours if you recommend them to Alexis and her team to interview. Absolutely. Um and then the other piece that we lean on the school for is again going through the licensing process. We need to get clean fire safety

047instructions and a bunch of different things, but that is the requirement, too. Um, I'm going to pause and let Alexis dig in a little bit more on the recruitment side. >> Yeah. So, again, referrals are great. Um, but the reality is, you know, sometimes we have some schools that are fully staffed by like in-house folks that already work at the school. And we have some where not a single person that works at the site is from the school. So, um we have a really great recruiting team to help us with that initial like site director um role. Uh that's the most important thing. We can't get licensed without site director. So, that's what we usually go after first. Um but that is solely on us. Um again, we might send you a hiring flyer just

048to distribute or post somewhere. Um but other than that, the rest is on us for the recruiting. Um same thing with finding the rest of the teaching staff. Um, again, the the go by ratios. So, we're never not going to have too few people there. Um, we ideally are going to walk in fully staffed, ready to go, no issues. That's that's the ideal situation. That's usually where we land. Um, we start their process pretty much right away. Um, we have summer camps that folks can work out over the summer. If we find somebody now that really wants that position, but they're like, "What am I supposed to do for the whole summer?" They can work at a kinder. They can work another camp. Um, but the recruiting, yeah, it's on us, but we have a

049lot of people behind it. It's not just like me walking around with flyers around Milton, New Hampshire. Um, I'm also local. I'm in New Hampshire, too. So, the boots on the ground recruiting um tends to go a lot smoother for folks in New Hampshire just because I'm nearby. Um, but I would say we'd probably be looking at a site director plus at least three more staff. Um, and with the marketing, we take care of all of that. We provide it. I might ask you for a space to put a sign or two, but other than that, um, as far as getting it up there, getting the sign itself, we take care of all that. We take care of the maintenance. If it's ripping or it doesn't look good anymore, we're going to take it down.

050We're going to get a fresh one. Um, but other than that, we'll we'll handle the rest. We have some schools that will like post on if they have a school Instagram or something, they might post one of our flyers or for a break camp or something like that or for a special event. But um it's not something that you have to do it, but it's nice. Yeah, if there's a newsletter that you guys put out or PTA you want us to work with, again, it's it's not mandatory, but the more we can get out there and let them know the champions exist, it it just helps everybody. >> Um I think and I don't know, um Ivy, you spoke with the principal, we so Sam and I had the opportunity to go to Northwood and

051actually see the program, um operating, which was amazing. I think you guys you've been at or since 2019. Is that correct? You guys stayed open through all of COVID, which is impressive um on its own. And then Ivy spoke with the principal over there to kind of get their feedback on how happy they are with the program. So, I just wanted to give Ivy an opportunity to share kind of and what I heard is it has been really plugandplay there in that while they might assist with some small things that it is an independently running program that does not impact the day-to-day for the front office. um that it has been really helpful for families and the principal could not speak highly enough about how flexible and um independent the program was in schools >>

052and their families um from what you heard the families and things have been happy with the program. >> What's the cost families? >> Did you hear the question? It is what is the cost for families? >> Oh, good question. Um let me hang with me. I have it. Where do we go? Okay. So, I'm just gonna again I will resend this out to everybody, but I'm just going to give you the fiveday rate. So, for better for lack of confusion. So, before school, the fiveday rate is $45. After school 5day rate is $85. This is all again before scholarships or before a child care vouchure um is in place and then break and summer that is combined. I mean again five day rate you know breaks go down to one day breaks five day rate

053and summer is $235 a week because there's student registration and family registration. It's in a document. It'll be on page six of the proposal, but I'll make sure that you guys all have a hard copy of it so you can review it that way. >> So that's $45 a week and $85 a week. >> Correct. >> For five days. Yeah. >> But total that's five days. So again, families only need before or they only need after. They're only going after, you know, they're only going to be paying for it after school, not >> is there a discount if families do before and after or is it still the separate rates? >> I will go typically no, but I'm going to go back and ask what's what we can do. I don't see the combo on

054here. Um, that's something that we're exploring more this year. So, I will make myself a note to go back and have them see what we can come up with. >> Great questions. Multiple children discounts for multiple children that live within the same family. >> Uh yes 10% >> we have teacher 10% military 10% child 10%. So the question we just wrote was what about kids with IEDs and that's where you would use that resource that you had talked about with Pauline. >> Correct. I again we when we're talking about IEPs it is we're very upfront. We're going to have meetings in Alexis. I saw I'm not on the ground so I want to make sure that they get it correct but you're first going to have a conversation with the family as well asbody your

055school. anybody that's involved. We want to get that full picture of the accommodations that our kiddo needs in order to be successful in the after school after school program. That looks different for everybody. Um I will say my kiddo has my son has ADHD and his accommodations right now have been ill outside of homing quarter and some fidget and a chair that can wiggle. Going into fifth grade, I as a parent know that it's going to get a little bit more intense. So I have to ask for a little bit more. So I am fully with Alexis in support of what it is that they do and how they they bring in everybody that works with that kid to kiddo to make sure that it can be as successful as possible. >> What are you

056are what are you looking for for are so basically she's take they're taking their IEP and they're going to meet with them so that they figure out how to support it. I just want to make sure it's all inclusive. That's all. >> Yeah, it's all inclusive. And I think it's important to know there's a difference between a student on an IEP for academic reasons and a student who has a onetoone behavior or support pair professional. Um, so what I heard is if we're talking about kids who have a onetoone, there's other layers of support that they have to provide if there's a conversation with families. Did I get that correctly? >> Absolutely. Yes. If it's a onetoone that is very much a conversational Alexis and her team is going to have with you with the

057family trying to figure out how what if for one what does that look like during the day and how and if we can accommodate from day one or we need to extend it to having that or another um purchase and present for that. >> And to further clarify the school would not providing that information to you guys because we are bound by rules that do not allow us to information share. So that would be a conversation with the family that you would have. >> Correct. Yes. And then again Alexis correct me please. If we need to have that conversation with the school then that same conversation with parent school getting parent approval that type of thing. It's another layer but yeah first first and foremost it's always going to be a parent conversation. Um, and

058then if they allow us to have a group meeting, um, and if that is allowable to the school, then that's what's going to happen. >> Yeah. There's like if if the family wants us to connect with the school on what the school's been doing during the day, um, as a support piece, there's like a release form. It's not just like me walking into the the counselor's office and being like, "Tell me about this." Um, there there's a whole process behind it. >> So, is this would that that all under the same. >> The question is about um specifically 504 students with 504 access um use your example >> um and food allergies and how that information is communicated. >> Yes. So, for for food allergies, there's going to be um along with involvement paperwork, there's

059going to be like an allergy kind of the families going to fill out. Same thing with any other medical disorders we have. Um I have kids enrolled with epilepsy or asthma and things like that. There's um additional paperwork that's going to be filled out during enrollment. Um some of that is going to require some provider sign off um for like if there's a medication that we have to administer, everybody takes medication authorization training um a to protect privacy and b to ensure everybody knows exactly how to use medication or an epien is needed. Um but yes, if a student has an allergy needs an epien, we will absolutely have one in our first a bag at all times. Um and it'll travel with us. We have a special backpack just for >> a kiddo cannot

060I'm just going to I as a child cannot sign up Tuesday to go to after school care without filling out all of that and I'm in in the thick of it myself. All of that paperwork that requires medical history, immunization records, release forms, you know, all of that is required. We are licensed through the state. We take it very seriously. We we do get monitored, we get checked to make sure that we're following all those regulations. And it's just important um to know again what each child needs. Uh and as Alex said, to make sure that we're trained on that specific child to ensure that they're they're safe and taken care of. >> All great questions. So, is this a contract that we have to sign with the school board? >> I'm going to just

061speak the question. So, is this a contract that the school board will have to sign with your organization? >> Good question. So, the first step is the letter of intent that is not legally binding. Uh, that came with the proposal, but I'll send it again. That letter of intent, again, not legally binding, but what it does allow us to do is the application process, the IRA process, all of that. After that, there is a contract that either the school level needs to sign or the school board, whatever you guys uh whatever that hierarchy is will sign. You can redline it the contract, you can go through it, make adjustments, whatever that needs to happen with your legal team. Uh but yes, someone will have to sign it at that point. I have a question that

062might be at Kors. Um, so we have a policy um for use of facilities that incurs a fee and I'm just wondering school board um how do we approach that? Because when people rent our space um especially I assume are you guys forprofit >> or nonprofit? Y we are forprofit and I will say I I'm we can depending on what the rent is or the charge is there is potential that we can just include it in I just need to know what that is. Um, ideally what we don't want to do, there's a couple of different things of how I approach this, and that's why we didn't include it this first time, is that we're doing our best to try to keep the cost down for families. Um, so we don't have to hit those

063minimum numbers and make any expense. That was the priority number one. If it's a minimal rent per month, whatever that looks like, if you guys can send me an email with what it is, I will work on that tomorrow and see if we can include it uh without adjusting anything. That is very very common. >> Does anyone in the audience have a question at this point? >> I do. Is the once the contract's signed, are they guaranteeing they'll be here for a year or could they pull up stakes in October or December? >> Did you hear the question? Let me repeat it. >> You can't either. Alexis, did you hear what they Oh, >> go ahead. I don't let you repeat. >> The question is once the contract is signed, do we have a guaranteed

064year of services? What happened? I think you would paraphrase, okay? Let me know if I got that wrong, but um what happens if you don't meet those numbers or um what happens if you can't find the right staffing? Is there a backout clause that would allow you to leave us mid year? Is that Yeah. Okay. Sorry, I just myself. I was saying this uh we do everything in our power to not back out. Um you actually the authority that we do to back out. If for some reason the program is not successful, then they will have Alexis and her team will have a conversation with you guys at the end of the school year. But that's not something that we um that's not our goal is to work towards how we can close out sites.

065It's how do we keep this open and come up with different ideas. The the biggest risk right now, and I'm going to be very honest, the biggest risk right now is for you guys to make a decision so we can get licensing time for day of school and hiring the staff that is going to be reliable and stay. Um, that's the biggest risk as far as opening on time is we are on the state's calendar. Uh, even if we have everything in place, it's they decide when they come and visit. Um, so I'll say that we we do not want to back out at mid year. I don't think we have, but also if it's just not working at the end of the school year, then they're going to have that conversation with you. Um

066and that's like I said the other risk is just making sure that we have enough time before school starts to get licensed so we have access to the childcare vouchure system as well as make sure that our staff is in place and trained. Have you had schools that you've had to um leave early and have you had how many schools have you had to not continue after the first year? I know you've been at Northwood for quite a while. Uh, I honestly I can I can't answer that question because I don't have access to it, but I can try to get information. I will say um in the Nor Eastern territory that I work and I've been in it for a while. Um, they are yet to close a sight on me. It has actually

067been the school that said actually we're just not ready. Um, and they got all the way to signing the contract and then they decided they weren't ready and they were going to stay with what they had. Um, that's that's the only thing that has happened to me, but I can dig in with Alexis and um Danny, the regional manager, just to get a little bit more intel for you. >> How many sites do you oversee in the area that you cover, Heather? >> What? Say that again. >> How many sites do you oversee in the area you cover? How many sites are there? >> Oh, good question. So, that's not a question for me. I actually just handle all the pricing side of it previous um putting that together. I will let Alexis in because

068she's in the field on the ground and she can kind of go from area manager to site director level for you. >> Yes. So I I personally cover 10 um and that's across right now it's across New Hampshire. one and three remain um which is also a new site that we did last year and then I have four in South Central Massachusetts. Um so I cover 10 that's typically about the average that an area manager is going to cover is like 10 to 12. Um and each site is going to have a site director who is really going to be the one um responsible for like maintaining the licensing, maintaining the child records, maintaining staff records, doing the curriculum along with their team. Um so I like right now I oversee 10 site directors um

069who report directly to me. We do weekly check-ins um and I visit the sites as often as I can. Um again lucky I'm in New Hampshire so a little over an hour away. Um, typically I'll my goal is to stop into a site at least twice a month. Um, more frequently, typically for new sites, I'll usually be there probably the first couple of weeks several times um, just to make sure things are up and running smooth. Um, extra support if we have um, a brand new site director especially. Um, but we connect virtually a lot as well. Um, but I'm very accessible to them. They my phone What about sick days when you have teachers and things that are falling out? What how does that work so that families aren't left kind of hanging and

070snow days? >> So snow days unfortunately um we typically will not operate because usually if the school is closed it's it's for a safety a safety reason. Um so we we'll usually operate on a snow day. Um as far as sick days um we We we almost always have a backup plan. We try to build ourselves a staff where we have substitutes available. Um that's also somewhere where we will sometimes lean in with the school if they have somebody that maybe doesn't want to commit to champions full-time, maybe they have somebody that's okay, you know, willing to be a substitute for us in an emergency. Um, but as far as us not having enough staff, um, it's it's very very rare that we would have an instance where it would affect the day-to-day operations of

071the site. Um, the we have Northwood isn't super duper far, which is great. We also have Allentown, so we have kind of that buildup of emergency staff um, if we need it, but typically we have enough people where we can ask somebody to come in the next day. um and building backup plan surrounding that if somebody's going to be out for an extended period of time. Um but as far as leaving parents hanging last minute like, "Oh, never mind. We're not going to be here today. We don't have any staff." That's not usually something that's going to occur for us. >> I think one big concern for uh the residents of Middleton is just the risk of a cost to us. Um our budget is really really tight this year. Um, I think that's one

072big concern is just making sure that we're not doing something that could put the residents at a risk. I know you talked about a letter of intent, um, which is you said like no risk because if we can back out of that um, prior to um, anything else? So, it sounds like you'll present us with a contract, you repeat that again um, before we make the final commitment. And when does that occur? Would that be like in July, August? so that we know as far as where that where that would fly. I again um because of the timing of the year I think the quicker that we can do this the better. Until we either have a letter of intent signed or a contract signed, we cannot move forward. Yes. >> Which means we cannot

073get an application to the state. We cannot uh begin a hiring process. So I can get to the library. Again, no risk there. That activates us internally. Then you're going to have an implementation meeting with Thea. Thea goes over with you the she'll prepare the contract, which that could be done next week. Prepare the contract for your review as well as give you a list of all the instructions and information that we need from the school. Uh that allows her to gather that and begin an application and while you guys are working through the contract, if there is a hesitancy at all, my recommendation is to hold. Uh I don't want to rush you guys into a decision that you're not comfortable with because what happens is it can put us at a risk of

074not having the best quality staff and I also don't want to put um you guys in that either. So if any if there's any hesitancy whatsoever because of the concerns, um I would just again kind of slow the process, maybe review it again, um and then look at bringing it into summer next year. Does anyone else have any other questions? Anyone else in the audience have any other questions? >> And then what I can do because I'm guessing you guys are not ready to make a decision as of as of right now is I will email over the letter of intent, the pricing proposal. I'll email over everything about champions that is like I said it's about 20 pages long. um please review that and I would say realistically if it's a no no I

075will make sure that you guys are able to talk through it and probably have an answer by Friday. Again, we're okay pausing. We want to make sure that it's the right fit. We want to make sure that you guys are not concerned about cost and if if that is a big red flag, I'm okay with that. Alexis is okay with that. We it has to be the right fit for you guys. Um and also on our side is we have to make sure that it's one is affordable to parents, two that operationally that we can keep running it because we don't want to have to let teachers go because we don't have enough kids in the program. So, >> does that sound okay? We'll get that information. >> Yeah, I think um I think that's

076great. I think we will touch we'll let you guys go um if no one else has any questions. Um we will talk it over as a board and then we will get back to you um either later today or in the morning and let you know kind of where we sit. I think ours is not so much the cost of the program. It's just making sure that the school doesn't get a bill. Um there are >> like I said, we've I we put zip codes in place. I've yet to see the charge. Uh what they really try to do is they just fight through that first year. Um because it does take a lot of work and Alexa, you you've done this. You've worked with small small programs especially in our main main market. Um

077they really right through this first year of just getting the program established, getting it um available to families and then and then they'll review it again at the end of May. But Alexis, go for it. Yeah, I so I opened up two brand new sites last year. Um one in May. Um and one thing I will say is we market the heck out of it because we a don't want you guys to pay those at all. Like I know that hasn't been something that has shown up in the past. Like we haven't been charging them, but um we get the word out as much as we can. Like we are not just going to be like, "Okay, cool. We're opening a million everybody. Um good luck. Here's some flyers." Um we go out in the

078community, any community fairs that are going on, we're going to try to get those there. Um last year we did all home days. We did um Christmas in in my We um you know, we really do everything we can to make sure things as big as a successful program as it can be. Um and like Heather said, it's guarantee jobs for our staff, but it's also just the parenting outreach. I mean, I have a child that we've probably heard a few times. Um so, I know what it's like to not have access to the child care that people need. So, I'm all about um making sure that anybody who can possibly know that there's that built in New Hampshire is going to know about it. Um whether it's social media marketing, all that stuff, all

079that stuff is available to us, ready to go. Um so again, it's not to add pressure, it's just we're we're going to do everything in our power to make sure that it's it's successful. >> Perfect. Any other questions for them before we let them go? >> Do you guys have any other questions? >> All right. Thank you guys so much. We really appreciate you taking the time to do this tonight. >> Yes, thank you. Like I said, I'll get everything over to you. Actually, I might have some time yet tonight. Don't read it tonight, but um it'll be in your inbox so you guys have it. Okay. >> Got it. Thank you. >> All right. Take care. >> Bye. Okay. So, now that we have them signed off, I do want to open for the

080board um and public comment to discuss any of what your concerns are. Um any thoughts or questions you guys have outside of what we've heard and go from there. >> So, do we what what do you normally charge for the facility here? >> I was trying to Google that on my phone. You can just give me a moment. Yes. I think what I got from them basically 16 different is what I pay for >> Oh, so no that third was from the survey that was answer. Did you guys What was the question? I just want to make sure that everyone hears the same things. I'm from the illustrated that whole thing I just said. >> Okay. >> It's just hard to hear it. >> Yeah. >> But a good gist of it. >> Before school

081we have to have before school we have to have a minimum of eight kids and then after school is a minimum of 16 kids. >> So the aim for their goal is an average. So when they're So again, this is all kind of average. It's an average. So it doesn't have to be. Exactly. So they're kind of looking for an average um is what they're looking for. I mean, >> so how many people they throw in this one, five >> staff? They have >> they So they they have to be the same ratios. So this when we were at the site and um they had two staff, I think they said it was like one staff or eight or have to. So they're meeting they're meeting at least the state ratios because we're licensed. So

082they have to meet those state ratios. >> We have that contract. >> They do a contract. Um it's a yearly contract. So they're looking at us going in for one year um to say that we're going to work with them. I mean I think the big thing is like they want this to be as successful as we want it to be, right? So they they want to they want to continue. They're going to market and market and market. They're going to be at every town that they can be at um to make sure that they're getting food out there to families. >> So, so we're going to go into a contract people for years. >> Yeah. >> What would that number be? I mean it's all based on a bunch of different things and why

083why you're not happy. >> What would what do you mean what would be? >> So for the first 90 days they're looking at getting started. So after the 90 days they're going to pull their the numbers of kits they've had and review if we need to do more marketing or where we need to be so that they can see >> how they could jump to successful I guess is basically how they worded it to us. So would that contract come into play after that? >> So the contract is to say that they're going to be here for a year and that we're going to partner with them to to have the program here for the first year. Um they're going to review after 90 days. I think you said 90 days a month. >> So

084the contractor is just going to say okay we're in the facility >> for a year. Then they're going to market it themselves within to try to make it as successful. The more that happens >> then, >> right? >> Um what would be what's their stop time and the end time during the school year? >> So they said what they do is they take what the town needs. Most of their sites start at 6:30 and go to 5:30 or 6, >> but they can adapt it. They If we have a need a if there's a lot of needs for families at 6:00 or then we adjust to open at 6:00. >> One worry I have is that we have reduced custodial staff next year >> but they have work. >> So we have 12 hours of

085custodial coverage. Um, so that would mean um the schedule I proposed is either a 6 or a 6:30 a.m. start time and going until 6:30 or so at night. >> So we just we just change the hours of the custom. So is that standard? >> So I have a 4hour person who is going to start the day with us when there's no room. I'm going to have them come in early. So 6 a.m. otherwise probably a 6:30 start time. Um and then there's no there's maybe a half an hour of overlap when my um next associate comes in who will work a 8 hour shift. I think this I see this as a need to daycare and I mean so there's a need for people who don't have childare and they're traveling all over God's

086creation to get to it. >> Well, I think there's a safety because parents who can't find childare and they have to work, they don't often have other options of the kids taking care of kids and We also I personally had an incident where my son was supposed to take the stay after school and we had the other school care going and he or he was supposed to go someplace else and he had forgotten and he um so them not having to travel to different locations would be amazing. >> Yeah, the kids not having I think it might also reduce our bus because our buses are super crowded and if we have kids in after school program they There may not be kids on the bus. >> I know this is going to be their thing

087to have to deal with. Like what happens when we don't have a generator here? >> How's that? People got to go to work. They may have left to work. What happens all the time? They don't really get released snow days open. All that kind of stuff. >> So if the school is closed there, the school is closed. you cannot you cannot lose stuff. Um so and then they we asked them when we were there I think you Sam with him or you and I we asked them like if there's a so this like storm's picking up and we need you know now after school. So if there's no after school program say are not they're not running because it's a safety need. If they're here and the storm picks up then they call the parents

088and they say we need to close. We need you to be here within this period of time or arrange for someone. >> They do all of that. This is 100% this program lines itself. It is nothing on IV at all. Um and they're offering our paras which is great because our parents don't get benefits. So they're offering our parents the opportunity to be hired and then obtain benefits which I think is another great advantage that we didn't know about till today. I didn't know anything about that. So, I think that's great, too, is that we have the opportunity to offer our parents this additional income they'd like um to be a part of this company and and access benefits >> at no cost, which is fantastic. >> Here is do they do anything like for

089meals? >> Yep. All they do snacks. So, when we were in Northwood, we got to see they have they do all the snacks based on the kids um allergies and things like that. So, all of that That's all part of the cost of the program that the parents get. Um >> they schedule it out too so each the parents can see what is for snack their kid can have it and it's >> so contract for school to provide the facility and that's the only contract we get there. Nobody pocket other than our normal operating boss as a as a school. >> Correct. >> We need the building 24 hours or whatever doesn't matter. >> People not in it. Okay. Um the cost is the same. Um would they have to have an individual contract with

090parents? >> Yeah. So the parents will they'll contract with us and then the parents who sign up they'll have their regular child care agreement where it'll be like um I do think what's great is they are super flexible. Like every Wednesday they let them know what days they're going to be there the following week. So these families don't have to be like five days a week all the time. That's what we're doing. They literally get to say by the end of the day, Wednesday, these are the days my kids are attending next week. Um, so these parents have locked into like full time all the time, which I think is great. >> Someone's on vacation. I don't need help next week. We're good. We're home. >> Breakfast. >> Yeah. So the program, the morning program,

091they serve breakfast. In the afternoon, they do snack. And how many how many kids how many parents do you have interested? I know you took a survey. You have like a percentage, but what does that break down to? >> I can tell you my battery is about to die, so the one of the things that >> Oh, you have the right. >> Does that have the numbers on it or just the percentages? It's the percent response. >> No. >> Um >> at the time. Yeah, it was like 6:30. Looks like there's 35 responses. Would you be interested? I can scroll over. What are you looking for? The number of people who responded to the survey. >> Um overall it was about 35 who responded. So a morning program 35 responses and I had 15 people

092who indicated yes. That is of course We didn't put out information about um for after school they had 34 responses and 20 people said yes. So the indication is a little bit more interest in an after school program. >> It sounds like the numbers agree with me what we do anyway. >> Um I would add because the survey doesn't capture that. It doesn't about three days a week versus five days a week. And what I heard them say is when they say eight kids, they want eight kids every single day. Average one average, guys. So when you take the five days, they want to average that there was an average of eight. Um they also said that if we have like 20, like say we had 25 in the afternoon and we only had like

093six in the morning, like they they out that we're still meeting a sustainable number of kids. more money. >> No brainer. >> I'm sorry. >> If you don't meet that number, then they can come back and say, "We can't do this because we're not making complaints." >> So, yeah. So, when we So, we start with the program um at 90 days, we sit down and review with them where we're at. Have we met the you know, are there any concerns? until we met the level that we needed to be on and then we kind of adjust from there whether they need to increase marketing. Um the thing they were talking about is they put in the contract that say we were three kids short of meeting our goal after the 90 days. They have the

094ability to charge us the difference. So we were three short. She said they've never done it. Um so >> I mean it's anything like she said that typically what they do at that point is they increase their marketing um because they again they don't want us to They want the program to be successful. So, they increase their marketing and they go from there. She said they've never charged it. The two schools that just started did struggle a little bit in the beginning. They didn't charge them. Um, and then the big thing is going to be at the end of the year in May, we'll meet and decide whether this is going to continue, if we've been able to be successful. Um, they did say they've never when we met with they, they've never pulled out

095of a school halfway through the year. They they basically commit to the year. I think the big thing too is they're investing $27,000 to start this program just in the site supplies. >> So, do you get to keep those supplies or they're keeping them? But I think that's the thing is like they want even more than we want this to be successful. Like they want to make this successful. They're they're investing this money. They're hiring staff. They want to make this work. So, as much as it feels like I feel like we've seen the YMCA not not be able to The thing I think this program is much more cost effective than the Y was. I want to say the Y was like $120 for before and after care. I remember it was it was

096pretty high. >> I wouldn't even >> Yeah, it was it was pretty high. So I think the thing that's great about the program is those families that just need after school care like five days a week at $85 is really reasonable. >> Um so I think back Yeah, I think that's the big thing for me is I think it's a really affordable program. They want to work with the They want to work to help our testing scores. Like they want to do everything they can to help our kids be successful. And they want this program to work. Like they don't want to put in all this money and then have it fail. >> And the only the only thing that makes me kind of curious is the two towns was um Allentown and Kery and

097they had a hard time in the beginning. Those are way bigger towns with way more money than Middleton. >> I think it's just child care is needed. Like Hery has a lot more competition for child care than we do. We have nothing here. We have >> um competition to that. >> I thought I learned a lot over the day. I got >> So I pretty cheap compared to this program. >> I know. But I think I mean the big thing is any center is going to cost more than a home a home program. And that is I mean talking full-time child care. I mean the girls that I work with are paying like $340 a week for those. to childare. It is it's astronomical. >> So I think this program as a facility program is

098super cost effective. Um I don't know how everyone else feels moms and dads that have paid for childare. Um I think for me it's just helping to make sure that it's successful so that it stays. I think that's my only concern is offering this to families and then having something fall apart. So I just want to make sure it stays. I just don't want to see I have no problem doing this. It's self process which providers I'm good with that as long as the other entities like the budget and the uh yeah >> so there's no going to be no pocket that we have to budget for. That's the biggest thing. So now it's between them and the individual families and their children and stuff like that. I have no problem with it. I mean

099I think there's an 8. I can see people who are going I got one kid over here. I get I get all the young before I go to work >> right >> and all that running around with the gas and the expenses doing and then rushing around after traffic's bad pick them all up at certain times and stuff like that. They're going to be just isolated here. Nice, compact, easy. People willing to pay for that. Okay. Were they willing to pay before the other from a year or so ago? No, that was too expensive. I think people were trying to take advantage, but this is like a good in between. Okay. I have a problem doing it as long as it's not going to cost. But I don't want any illegal backlash to come back

100on the school board because we've allowed this to happen in the school as well >> because if they drop the ball or something illegally happens, how will we protect? >> They have family insurance. >> Y >> so we won't have any issue with that because their insurance would be the ones that would be liable if anything happened. >> Um and we can have our legal because they're going to send us the contract beforeation happens. So our legal can look at the contract and make sure that everything is up to par. So I think those are the concerns like the budget giving any >> exactly >> that's already part of the plan. So I think that >> exactly um and then I think the only other thing is just that we have a use a building

101use charge for right now. I don't know how you guys feel. I mean, for me to get the program started and to keep the price on it for families, I think my suggestion would be to leave it for the first year if we're not having to pay a janitor more to be here. The hours fit. I am we are going to have to be really thoughtful about hours to ensure that the shared spaces have time to be clean. Like I'm looking at this room as being a room in which kids are received into in the mornings. And so right now this room gets cleaned in the morning. So we have to be very thoughtful about time of day and the ability of reduced studio staff and getting in here to be. >> Okay. So, I

102think that would be my only thing um to get them up and running would be to try to what like not charge them anything if we can unless there's a janitor cost and I think we talk about that with that if we need to charge something we can just say we'll have to charge a janitor cost of this um and then we can revisit it in the year and see if they're doing a profitable business and things are better. I know they talk to us about like they can pay a fee or they can share they can do like a percentage or whatever. I think we figure that out with them at the end of the first year to get them running is my thought process just to give them that year and then we

103can work on making it something that's pretty relevant for the school because my thought was depending on what the cost is and we don't meet the program can we use that to negotiate so that we're you know closing that gap. >> Well maybe we can do that you know we you would charge this. We're willing to wave this if you're willing to give us a year. Like we want this to be successful, too. So, we're going to wave our part asking you to to wave if there is if we do have a discrepancy for that first year that we're not going to deal with anything. And I think that's something that we can negotiate with. I don't think that would be >> unreasonable. >> Can I share the uh fees? >> Yes, please. >> Okay.

104Um, so assuming that we are using the multi-purpose room and they are a forprofit organization, what our policy says is that is $35 an hour. So I think for the first year we negotiate with them and say as long as you guys are willing to give us we're willing to give a new year at no cost as long as again we make sure that it's not going to cost us anything for the janitor. Um, and then we can once we get the pay, we can when we're redoing our contract, we can look at it and say, "Okay, you guys are profitable. We've done well here. Now, we're going to ask you to pay, you know, whether we use this this price or we come up with something different." Um, just because I think we want

105to make sure it's as affordable as possible for the K, you know, our our families at Middleton. >> Um, any other questions? Okay. No, I'm curious that $35 charge. Where does that go to in the budget? >> It goes into the revenue line. >> Revenue line. Not for any any programs or >> No. From what I understand, it goes into the revenue line. And we in So, I started in July. We have not had any forprofit businesses rent this space. I'm thinking of something like a I don't know what a wreck league like one of the the baseball leagues coming in using our gym for practice. That would be a situation where we did that at the beginning. >> Yeah. But to my knowledge that has not been we've not used that for those reasons

106at all this year. Nobody's coming. >> Did you say feeling better about this? >> Well, no. The biggest thing I get I can tell you now any tax credit I'm not because they're already paying for school. >> Yes. Exactly. >> I mean it's like you're bringing another educational >> component for a school that already has an educational component >> you know and I just don't see the taxpayers. I mean people who have the kids that need it right >> fine. I don't want to be to be subsidized by the rest of the family. impact the rest of the town that is in the service. >> They should have to already if you have a a family two children already subsidizing one, >> you can't keep adding that burden to the tax. You just can't afford

107that. >> I totally agree. >> So, >> um I think this is a great opportunity to not burden the taxpayers but also provide the service to the families that need it because there is a huge need in this town. Um Oh, the other thing that they were great, they love to be involved in the community. That was another thing that I think is great about this program. They said they're willing to come in and do childcare doing um like deliberative sessions. Um if there's other events that are going on, they're willing to come in. So, I think they're super great that they like they're willing to come in. They want to be involved in the community and they want to hire people in our community. That is their number one goal is to hire people

108here that are part of the town which I think is huge. >> But become poaching teachers. >> Well, I think the great thing is that the Paris like that is a great thing is offering the Paris that's used. >> So great that we'll make a 10 to 11 hour day for our parents. So I don't know the degree to which people will be invested. However, Any other questions, comments, thoughts? Okay. So, I would make a proposal that we have a board continue or subcommittee continue. Um, Sam and I have been working on this as you guys are pay um with me and Sam. I get a proposal that Sam and I continue working on this as a subcommittee to act on the school board's behalf um to move forward with this program. And if you

109guys are okay with it, we would um I would make a motion to start with the letter of intent, we can let them know that we want to move forward, get everything rolling, and then we can bring the contract to you guys for the next meeting. The next meeting is in like two weeks. We'll have people look at it. We're feedback. >> I'm second to motion. >> Let me let me clean it up. >> You made a motion. You have a second to >> So my motion is first to do have a subcommittee of myself and Sam to act on behalf as Sam to act on behalf of the board um to move forward with the champions before and after program discussions. >> All in favor? >> Um and then so that was unanimous. The

110second part of my motion would be to allow um Sam and I to move forward with a letter of intent um to get that goal so that we can work towards having this up and running for fall. Um get the contract so that we go and then bring that to you guys at the next board meeting. >> All in favor? >> I Okay, so I think that is great. Anything else that you want us to add to this? >> You still don't have your >> definition. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I go work. >> I'll do a surgery. >> Good. So, you're Okay. So, I don't need to get involved. You're working on it. >> I'm working on >> I do have a question. >> Sure. Um I know I know you run your meetings and

111you you don't you do public input before and then after. Is there any way to change that? Because a lot of times that you talk about and you decide the people would like to like have some public input in that moment, not after the fact of after you've voted on things. And I I was on the school board. I know why you do it. But I just think that honestly for a show of transparency and for people that's sitting in the audience that are like so frustrated. I just think it would be good if you could just ease up. >> I think we have been kind of doing it and on a case by case basis. So if there's something there have been meetings that there were big discussions and in those meetings we've allowed

112people to kind of give their input. we still don't respond back with answers. Um, unless it's saying like, well, this was just discussed. Um, but we right away we're still doing the 30-day, you know, the next board meeting answers um for the recommendation of the schoolboard association. Um, but yes, when we're having those, especially if it's something that's super important, we we do let have a little bit more dialogue >> because I know in the last meeting there was somebody here that wanted to talk about something and Kelly had said, "Well, we have to wait for Rebecca to come >> and it never got talked about. It never and he felt very at the whole school board." >> I can understand that. um about the bus drivers. >> Okay. >> I just think if we

113could have if you could have talked about it whatever. >> Yeah, I wasn't here so I can't speak to that. So I apologize for that part. Um but yeah, I think typically we tried to do that. So I I don't know what happened last meeting because unfortunately I wasn't here till after the call that happened. So I can definitely we can take that into account and hopefully not >> just transparency is wonderful in this town working so so hard to to have that transparency. We feel it too. >> All right. So I will entertain a motion to call this meeting to adjourn. >> So moved >> at 7:32. >> Perfect. All in favor? Thank you guys. Do you have the whole question? >> Do you use social media? >> What? >> He social media. >>

114No, he does not. Back to the knee.

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