001e e e aif ful president Hil yes Nolan yes papis here buy Here Gorman here you motion second to approve tonight's agenda so second Fulk yes Hil yes Nolan yes pepis yes fi yes Gorman yes motion is carried I will review any budget changes so each of you should have received a budget presentation it's posted on the website um the presentation um I updated with the revisions that we had made from the ACT August board meeting till now um just in a quick overview the revenues um we got a specialed orphanage number and our corporate personal property tax came in we got actuals instead of the estimates so those both went down so the net change of those two is 71,0 65 um the TRS on behalf payments is more a number that's a note
002in our audit numbers it's not really it's it's recorded as a revenue and an expenditure so it Nets to zero in the budget um it's included on there I got a better estimate from what our auditor said our number would be this year so that's where the 1.3 comes in but you'll see the offsetting on the expenditure one on the other page so for the expenditure side most of these expenditures um are either reassesment for new hires might have come in cheaper or more expensive depending on what came in um we have um let's see mentors we had a couple supplies so for the biomedical and digital Graphics Supply we added a new a line item just specifically for that one to track it um more salaries these were re classes from different areas um
003just re classes here there's your TRS on behalf payment for your $1.3 million Library grants this was a library Grant we had it all in one account we split it by schools so we can track it by schools better um and that feeds into a couple other surveys that'll make our life easier and then so the total adjustments for the Ed fund is 1. 1474 million um if you take out that 1.3 million for the TRS adjustment it went up $168,700 um so it looks big but you taking that out um on andm fund was a reclass and then um increase for gas and heat electricity um our projections were were lower than what we had anticipated and then a couple reassesment so those adjustments were made there so there's 311 million 311,000 there and
004then Transportation fund only had um our salaries were adjusted a little bit and then the medical insurance we were projecting so we didn't know how many people would jump on um now we know the um deadline is over so I adjusted that down to more actual so on the total for those three funds change it's $339,000 increase so um and then if I flip over to the PowerPoint real fast so nothing changed um on any of these slides next nothing on these slides so I'm just going to skip through them from last month um those percentages stayed the same on this slide it went just a smidge um change so I um like 70 the Ed andm Transportation changed like half a percent nothing big there notes so these are the true new numbers that
005were adjusted after the fact so you have your the different salary buckets there that were adjusted and then your total Ed one salaries um went up a little bit this Slide the only the total education expenditures changed and none of the other three areas had changed on M the salaries and the the salaries amount changed a little bit and then the total transportation salaries um and the others did not change this slide there were no changes to any of these funds then here's our fund summary so you see the projected revenues and expenditures and then the difference so slight difference from the tenative and the Ed fund um went the difference went a little bit down from the last one and then you can see that we're still deficit spending in four of those funds
006and and then the that difference column will feed into this slide that shows you our beginning fund balance from our unaudited fund balance since we still don't have our audit yet you have those changes from the slide before in the middle and then you'll see our projected fund balances at the end of the year and that's all of the changes that we have any questions thank you thanks D you're welcome thank you for this meeting motion second toj second Hulk yes H yes Nolan yes papis yes Bui yes Gorman yes motion secured y we go seven notes e e e Co aif ful presid henel here noan here papis here FY here Gorman here need a motion second to approve tonight's agenda so moved second ful yes Hil yes Nolan yes papis yes vuli yes
007Gorman yes motion is carried please join us in citing the Pledge of Allegiance United States stand and justice for all I like to thank everyone for coming out tonight everybody here and then those viewing at home also yeah it's great to see all of our athletes out here and our coaches thank you guys for coming out for us to celebrate you we appreciate it as well as um everybody out here in the audience and the people that are viewing at home so thank you guys for joining us athletic director jusy is here to recognize girl soccer team he's not here slly smaller version of [Laughter] him he apologizes he couldn't be here tonight it's a kid but um he did send me in his place and I'm proud to be here to announce our girls
008soccer team from last spring who June 1st went down to North Central College and took fourth in state so we have Coach arneson coach King coach King and all of our players here um coach vassel and Coach netley could not be here tonight but I'm just gonna announce all their names have them stand up and be recognized and we are very excited about recognizing them here tonight as well as we get a little like warmup for this at the football game two weeks ago so let the party never stop see what we do this spring can't wait so like to honor and recognize lilan batani Sydney Bots Grace Brown Riley Butler Briana dumeny Ellie Elders Alissa Ferrera Emerson fry Kendall and Greg Ripley Hamill Mia cerr Annie Megan Ally kwall McKenzie lowski Lauren Meyer Katherine
009Panzer Jane petkovich McKenzie Rogers Eva Ian Mia schy Ashley waslo and Carmela Winlock thank you congratulations ladies and we're looking forward to see what happens this spring as well how many seniors did you lose a good question fori we've got some we've got some commits already too that know where they're going excellent nice very good congratulations congratulations wonderful good job ladies luck with your next season J L play hard that's awesome it's awesome all right principal borski will come back up and recognize the students who earned College Board National recognition award now I get back to my height okay um very excited again to honor some students so we are pleased announced just like last year that we have the College Board has recognized 15 of our students for various factors including their PSAT scores
010and a GPA of 3.3 or higher um these awards are three different categories they are for our national Hispanic recognition award our national rural or small town award or first generation award so all these awards are based on where we are or our type of kids and the new one this year is the first generation award which goes towards uh kids with a limited income or a background familywise that is not traditionally College Bound or have a history of going to child College within the family so this year very proud to announce all of these students and in the memo we will see you can see which ones that qualified for some of them for one like just the rural others are Rural and first gen and that's denoted in the memo so it's Carolina
011ASO Elliot Campbell tan Cathcart aner danan Mia Estrada Alex G Marian pain Del Al Arian Patel Gian rosta Kunal Shaw sh Shaw Marissa tacel m w and Jackson whipper forth so we're very excited about that as our first recognition and I foresee in the next month to month and a half we should be able to get our Illinois State Scholars will be processed and be doing another memo for that as well so proud to celebrate those students and their [Applause] achievements move on to public comment uh first up Steve jurer good evening um have a few questions I hope that the board could address regarding the referendum and a few comments that I think the taxpayer should be aware of um wasn't able to make the design dive but um and I didn't see anything
012that kind of addressed these issues so maybe uh we could get some clarity uh the September 6th Friday facts did show that on a $400,000 assessed house you would be the tax increase would be $116 a year uh which is true but a little misleading that it only covers the increase on the bond and interest payment it doesn't cover any of the other funds that goes to support the budget and the school operations such as uh the operations of Maintenance transportation and Staffing so those other funds will increase more than $116 that uh is being reported uh by that fact uh also it does say that to reduce it to 116 we stretched out the bond term from 20 to 30 years that's true but also by stretching it out in additional 10 years the
013additional interest on that $225 million Bond debt is7 $5 million that's no trivial amount the cost the total cost for this debt will be $410 million so over 30 years we're going to pay quite a bit in interest in addition the annual repayment amount for the bond and interest will be approximately $1 13.6 million a year today it's 50% less than that about 9 million so it's going to increase 50% % to 13.6 million which might be 20% or more of your budget the other item I was looking at on the central referendum website um under the RSP analysis section it said that there were 853 new homes from 2020 to present uh I think that's a fact that the board should check out and see how accurate that is when I go back and
014look at the county eav reports okay and you look at District 301 the partial count for 2020 was for the residential partial count paral count was 8533 if you look at 2023 eav report it's 86688 that's only a difference of Parcels you need to go back to 2010 to get a difference of 800 uh 25 homes so in 2010 the partial count for residential was 7,863 so you have to go back that far to find where we've added 825 uh parcels and finally as the debt for this new referendum the proposed referendum is being paid off over 30 years for $410 million what other referendums will the district come back and ask the taxpayers to pay for capital projects and outlays for uh improving buildings and so on so thank [Applause] you all right next
015up we have Dave Chapman all right good evening uh there's a packet going around for you to review um I'm going to start with with page one but I'll let you all get that okay um as you recall last may we discussed how we have the worst teacher to student ratio meaning our class sizes um are the worst in the area due to a lack of hiring teachers CA decided to do a bit of a a data analysis using you our ISB data we wanted to figure out you know how much Total Staffing we actually should have um so that we are resembling surrounding districts you know districts like kin St Charles Geneva and bavia in front of you you'll see the data which uh we'll share out to the community later as you can
016see we learned we should have the equivalent of 90 more full-time teachers in this District if we want to support our students and staff the way other districts do 90 so my statement to the board is the ISB data presented by cea at the May Board of Education meeting and this ISB data clearly shows we have much higher class sizes larger teacher workloads and really an aversion to hiring more staff members we might budget seven to 10 new staff each school year but if we were actually hiring people we wouldn't be in this situation where we're at such a deficit last May CA simply asked for five more FTE and special ed and elll and we were rejected we aren't asking you to add 90 more additional staff right now or even next school year
017but we are what we are asking to is to increase Staffing um it's pretty clear that we need that we're asking once again that you post those five teaching positions we requested last May right now on top of that as you know we have the worst reten rate of Staff in the area to combat this the state gave us a teacher vacancy Grant if you look at page two of your packet you will see our district receives a little over $100,000 annually from the state to specifically focus on attracting and retaining staff in your board packet and on page three of this packet you will see our district returned almost $42,000 of the teacher vacancy Grant back to the state so about 42% of it this unused money could have been spent to better support
018our staff attract staff and retain them examples of ways to use this grant are on page four that's also provided by the isbe I've also reached out to them and hoping to talk with them tomorrow more um examples could be things like bringing in Specialists from from the outside to help our staff you know maybe special ed in elll um it could be providing more tailored PD providing mentoring to part-time staff something that we don't do and even using money um for more signing bonuses if you recall we allowed you in the contract to give $5,000 signing bonuses to new staff especially and hard to find positions we ask the district repeatedly to start advertising on job postings that we offer a signing bonus and you know what that answer was no your District leaders
019refused to this money could and should have been used for this we still have spe we still had special education openings when the school year began and I'm confident if our district would have been fully utilizing this grant we wouldn't have been in that position additionally we had to hire a special ed teacher from an outside agency and again I think that wouldn't have happened if we would have been doing everything we could have in short we gave back money that could have been used to keep staff here and turn our climate and culture around we have no problem spending $40,000 of taxpayer dollars on an outside PR Agency for a referendum even though we have a PR person hired and at the same time we're fine giving back over $40,000 of free state money
020that could have helped our teachers what are we doing I don't understand my question to the board is what additional data is needed to show you we are not doing enough in this District to provide the best possible education for our students we literally don't know what else you need we share survey results with you many of which go on answered but in those survey results include important data numbers and staff comments that our staff take the time to share with you because they want you to read it you have reliable and validated State data you have this example of the teacher vacancy Grant amongst other things we honestly don't know what else you need I know perhaps president gourman you could let me know what more you guys need um I would really love
021to hear that and I'll wrap up with this lastly if you feel we are doing everything we can to support our students and staff and that that's truly alarming this means you aren't speaking with staff and seeking the opportunities to understand what your staff do on a day-to-day basis it tells us you don't understand what a classroom looks like in 2024 and in all honesty it leads us to the conclusion that are we just intentionally ignoring the problems in the district I hope we're not this data and these patterns are not only a disservice to our staff but negatively impacts the educational opportunities and success of our students We are failing our students with the decisions or lack thereof being made so please start looking at the data in front of you start speaking with
022staff start visiting the schools during the school day and I think most importantly start asking more questions thank [Applause] you thanks D next up G Meyer hi Jean Meyer Christian resident I'm smiling at all you guys in the front there you're not my enemies and you don't treat me like that the eight crickets in case each of you want to eat W are not to make fun of you but to make all of us think do we want to indoctrinate the children to current political fake false science views I bet you all had no clue this is being taught Schoolboard stop indoctrination of any kind this community wants our scores in Reading Writing and arithmetic to excel educate not indoctrinate so see page two two and three for the uh September assignment for a fourth
023grade Howard B Thomas student in Burlington uh first off the article says insects are really good for you they're packed with protein by weight crickets and termites have more protein than beef second raising insects cost less and is better for the Earth than raising cows and other livestock insects take up much less space and need much less food and water than cows also you can eat more parts of an insect than other their animals insects also reach their adult size quickly it does not take much time to raise insects to eat third insects tastes good many types of insects taste a little nutty some kinds of bugs taste like bacon while Others May taste like fish or even fruit some insects such as mealor worms don't have much of a taste at all they pick
024up the flavors of whatever they're cooked with so what are you waiting for why not try a beetle today or or a cricket I want to talk about a food company that has closed called bitty Foods it seems to be the state of factories and making uh raising insects for food and also um laboratory grown meat they don't seem to be doing as well as they think they should but bitty Foods makes delicious healthy snacks with Cricut flour their mission is to help alleviate stress on the global food system by populating ating edible insects as a sustainable protein source that conserves natural resources and can feed billions of people according to the UN if edible insects become a part of the mainstream Global diet greenhouse gases can be reduced by 18% and the average cost
025of food lowered by 33% stabilizing the global food supply using sustainably raised crickets bidy Foods Mills them into fine flour that becomes the basis of its line of high protein based goods and baking mixes biddy has received accolades in the New York Times Fast Company and Vogue and was named one of the entrepreneurs Magazine's 100 brilliant companies and again this company went out of business um Americans are not ready for this kind of food and with given time and indoctrination of the children and if we make food shortages of meat and we raise prices people probably will eat crickets thank you thanks J all our last public comment is Virginia Romo hi thank you for letting me talk um I'm a little speechless about all this hearing about what kids are being taught um the
026taxes um it it just seems the more layers of the onion that gets peeled back the more is revealed and it it's just astounding to me um I just hope that you guys just don't decide to throw another tax levy at us um I don't know if anybody's aware but um this election cycle not only is our $225 million High School referendum on the ballot but so is the Hampshire library wants $30 million from us for two libraries um of which really Burlington isn't going to benefit all that much it'll be too far away for us to go to um the forest preserve is increasing their um their uh whatever portion um my opinion I do go to a lot of the board meetings with the county and stuff like that and I'm just seeing
027a lot of overspending there um what else um yeah it's just kind of nuts County wants more money um in April 1 uh um the next election they want um to create a new sales tax for the county of 75% so um it's kind of interesting everybody wants money from us but none of our incomes are really going up and our property taxes maybe the value is going up I'm not real sure about that I haven't really looked into it that much but um I don't think our property values are increasing like um all these taxing bodies want the increases so I that's just me um I think a lot of other people are uh have the same feeling I do I just seem to have the louder voice um but I know there's a
028lot of other people um that feel the same way so um that's about all I have to say thank you very much than move on to action items motion and second are required to discuss and improve the consent agenda second um included in your board packet are your revenue and expenditure reports revenues are currently at 6.13% compared to 6.44 a year ago expenditures are at 1633 compared to 12.35 a year ago um this last month we received impact fees for $165,600 6 for 22 new home starts and then we did get a little transition fees for $2,095 um also included is the bills payable for both Northern cane and Central um very typical for the month of September everything over the summer gets caught up this month so it's usually our biggest payout um and
029then Northern Cane's report includes their final fy2 24 grants so will be done for last year's expenditures and then included in centrals is a shes magn construction for 700,000 any questions all right right Fulk yes Hil yes Nolan yes papis yes fuli yes Gorman yes motion is carried next a motion in second to discuss and approve the budget for the central 301 for the 2024 to 2025 school year so second so just before this meeting we had our budget hearing um and we reported out the re revisions that we had um mostly just roue routine adjustments for personnel changes grants rec classes um so tonight I'm just this part of the meeting we just formally adopt the budget that we reviewed earlier Mel yes Nolan yes papis yes FY yes ful yes Gorman yes motion
030is carried we need a motion in second to discuss and approve the cross country trip to the Poria first to the Finish event September 13th to 14th 2024 or that happened moved second all right JY is out six so this good Nolan yes papis yes yes fuli yes Fulk yes heno yes Gorman yes motion is carried a motion second requiring discuss and approve the FFA overnight trip to the National FFA convention in Indianapolis Indiana October 23rd to 26th of this year some of second annually FFA does this in Indiapolis to huge convention for while received by both students and the faculty so it is a recommendation obviously for the approval pepus yes buy yes Fulk yes Hil yes Nolan yes Gorman yes the motion is carried next the motion second require to discuss and approve
031a trip to the Illinois High School theater Festival All State production of the prom at the University of Illinois champagne AB banaana January 5th to the 11th of 2025 second you more to add there Patrick I'm not familiar with what we do speak it's the four year in a row weif that's something they try out for nominated by their our strike or whoever would do that okay okay vby yes buul yes Hil yes Nolan yes papis yes Gorman yes the motion is carried next we any motion second to discuss and approve the veterinary affiliation agreements as presented so second so sorry uh in your board packet you'll see the the memo that lists the five different uh locations remembering that four of them are renewals for past sites that we've used so continual use and
032and we do have one new one Randall Road Animal House Hospital of South Elgen uh we're always continuing to search to find different avenues that they were approached before they have a different veterinarian that is now running that practice that was excited uh reached out and of course Amber does a great job and the rest of our egg team to make sure we're able to find enough locations for all of our externships so these are just five of them if you have any questions specific to them okay thanks Hulk yes Hil yes Nolan yes papis yes buy yes Gorman yes motion is carried next Motion in second to discuss An approved mou between central 301 and the alignment collaborative for Education move second so this is the ml that I brought last month for review
033the adjustments are so this is something we did in the past we're expanding upon our agreement to take five more students uh remembering that we took even though we had 10 approved last year 23 of our students were selected so um we're getting more than what we're kind of financially committing to but they're promising another additional Vibe for sure um we have high confidence again we're going to to exceed that 15 number it also lists out the different uh things like the senior job fair uh participating in the teacher pipeline our students go to uh a couple of events for that including one that's coming up at Northern uh and then we are represented on the board uh and then we continue to we'll continue with our resume writing and then uh the goal would
034be not during this calendar year but this year we will plan an expo that will happen inhouse for our students to be able to participate to get things kind of going and match up with career selections as students want to move forward it's just it takes that much time ahead of time to put on that type of event for the number of vendors and things that you're coordinating with that's why it is listed as a 2026 school year scenario just for your clarification I didn't want you to be confused like why are we working on it it's just how much communication has to happen UPF front to make that type of jump for a large event questions St thank you the only thing if we're going to increase the overall money that would there's some
035sort of you know what are we G talk about next year and was it used appropriately and yeah so the 30 as opposed to 20 following year and we take uh some of this out of grant money funding that we get out of our you know from ISB uh and down some comes out of our vocational funds that we use annually to support our high school so it's it's not even 100% per say tax money that we're we're going we use Grand funds all the time to support CTE uh not only with the in-classroom stuff that's happening but also these types of Ventures to get kids kind of connected with real life experiences you know so this is just one of many factors that those funds go it's also a way for our students to
036be participating in the externships and inter without it we can't have the partnership to get those advantag for usk thank you Fulk yes Hil yes Nolan yes papis yes fby yes Gorman yes motion is carried BR Motion in second to discuss and approve the contract with code to the Future so moved second I brought this up uh last month you'll see in the memo there the breakdown of the cost structure and and what would be occurring over the next uh five years did reach out to our building Administration and we have two selected uh buildings that will participate five staff at least in each of the buildings so Prairie View and ly Lake will begin this this year we have a planning meeting later this week on the books and then hope is to get
037that started at the end of October any questions all right wonderful thank you H yes Nolan yes papus yes fuli yes Fulk yes Gorman yes motion is carried a motion in second and require discuss and approve the reciprocal reporting agreement with city of Elgen for the reporting of student offenses so moved second so were able to uh ascertain a contract inter governmental agreement with Kane County for um inter kind of reporting reciprocal reporting for issues relevant to our students uh so we can share information should there be some kind of legal element that we have our students involved so that is part of the board packet that you receiv received with the contract and intermental agreement with them it does go through 2026 so was an update from where we had had previously to get
038us through 2026 it's generally an annual process but we extend it for a couple years this time is that two-way reporting two-way reporting yeah who makes the decision on the county side Elgen or otherwise who says this is a student in 301 we're concerned about whatever said offense was who makes the decision about whether we find out about that officer usually works with us Works directly with the city of Elgen just because he's got connections there and then we work through him is it just the city of Elgen this we already we already have one for Kane County this is same version version for that jurisdiction correct do we need to have it any other this is the only two we've ever had it withy Nolan yes pis yes fuli yes Fulk yes Hil yes
039Gorman yes motion is here move on to information items facilities director Poway is here to give us an update good evening um kind of wrapping up uh things some of our summer project work um the first one is our generator project we still haven't completely 100% wrapped that up hbt we're still working through some equipment issues um with Coler and replacing some equipment there we're hoping to get that done this week um Lily Lake and prair viiew are both on line and up and running so those projects are getting wrapped up we're wrapping up permits with the Roe um on those jobs um the addition uh we're currently working on uh the final um hookups for the train ahus all that equipment that was drastically delayed um so our vendor CMI and and our uh
040uh building Automation and Tech is working to get that stuff hooked up and that stuff up and going um so we're just kind of working through that um and then we're also we've also contracted with a a landscape contractor to complete the um top soil and the over seating and stuff of the grounds so we're working through those we were working with our engineer we have to do a bio Swale in the area between the parking lot and the drive so we were working with our engineer on what that looks like and kind of mediating some of those costs our original quote for that bio Swale is like $70,000 um so we worked with our engineer to kind of modify that scope to something that was more reasonable and we worked with Kane County need
041to get that done um we completed some seal coating that was tied into the project so we got Stadium Drive in the upper lot reeal coed to cover up all the markings and stuff we did for our temporary drive so that's all been communicated through Athletics and you know through various means that that's a one-way exit again um back to what it was originally um then we have the front staff lot scheduled for seal coating we do that on our first day off probably mid- October get that seal Cod it and that'll kind of wrap up the whole exterior of the project and kind of clean up all that stuff any questions about with the equipment issues is it just it came to us damaged or from train Dr drastic delays from them from what
042they originally told us we're supposed to have equipment in May and it was drastically delayed so yep no nothing to do with our contractors all our contractors as soon as the stuff came they were right on it was from the supplier any other questions um I also have a update um that's the next item on there is to update so we're Dana and I work to put together stuff for our gas so we use a a vendor to to try to for our um gas and electric service can be quite challenging to kind of budget for and kind of moderate with those fluctuations of costs so we got gas done so we're bringing to the board some information we're going to look at doing the reverse auction again this year like we did the last
043time I think that was three years ago that we did that one um so what we're asking today is for information we're going to bring to you that next month we're going to present a range of fees from numerous vendors so we've contracted with with uh um NAIA energy um to help us with that reverse auction so she's going to put out um some feelers and get some quotes and stuff from some different vendors that then we can bring to the board and then we'll ask like we did with gas for your approval for a range of fees because those things fluctuate daily so then when we actually do the reverse auction it'll be a couple days after the next board meeting and then we'll have the range of what we know it'll be and
044if it comes in within that range then we would ask for that approval so we'll be bringing that information back with what those costs she did tell us there's probably going to be some significant increase in our electric costs from what they were in the past but I think this reverse auction from what Dana and I have learned about it that this is probably the best most cost effective way to go about getting the best price for electricity any questions about that thanks Dan thank you move on to the 301 design dive meeting update so many of the board members were there a few were not so we held two design Dives both Wednesday September 11th and Thursday September 12th two different locations within the district one on over by Central High School and one
045on the east side by paral SCH school um obviously we sent out a lot of communication trying to get some information we did have 83 people that were registered to attend um unfortunately 42 of those did not attend so roughly 50% um we did have 41 that did attend 16 that attended without registration so a total of 57 attendees um during that design day we basically reviewed U what Central High School would look like as a middle school what would need to be done there what P Middle School would look like as an elementary school so the work that would need to be done there what Central Middle School look like as An Early Childhood Center and what that work would look like as well as the new high school um participants rotated through groups
046uh work group to group had questions wrote notes talked through and answered questions had questions for them and then we came back together as a whole group to answer any additional questions they might have um some key conversations surrounding busing for Early Childhood kids um at Central Middle School interesting we asked Pam to do this a little while ago it looks like we're about somewhere under 30 minutes for an early child student on the playground locations at prol they wanted to see where that was located um one of the questions that came up that we hadn't considered was the science labs we were looking to take out the science labs but was there a way to take the materials from the sence LA and move them to the other Elementary buildings to allow for esteemed
047activities so have stem labs in each of the elementary buildings I thought was a a really good suggestion and then um what would happen if the referend didn't pass which I will present yet tonight any questions on the I can reserve them until the next part they all tie together thank you we'll go on to uh your pres next presentation so one of the things that commune members have asking for is what would happen if the referendum fails and what are some thoughts that we have um regarding that but I first want to walk you through just a few things about our district enrollment even though we've seen those um this graphic represents kind of the additions and the new schools that we have erected over the course of time so looking back between 1980
048to 2025 what's happened in our district how we managed the growth as we've looked at this growth in our district consistent for many many decades um so the initial Edition was at L Lake Grade School in 1980 and there was another one at ploh Center which we've dropped at this point in 1986 and then Central High School was actually uh built in 1991 um so they built the new high school which is where the high school sits today in 1996 Howard B Thomas was built um and then in 2000 we turned around and we built prayview grade school additions at Central Middle School Central High School at Central Middle School and that Lily Lake Grade School so we put editions on there Library some of those other pieces some additional classrooms um obviously Central Middle
049School as a brand new Wing that was put on at that time um in 2006 we had additions ort on the harby Thomas and to per view grade school um and then in 2007 is when both Country Trails and per NOS Middle School open um with an additional addition being done at the high school so another addition was done there at that time um I think in 2017 another Edition was done to Central High School 2018 another Edition was done to Central High School um and 2022 editions at Pano middle school and Country TRS Elementary School those were cafeteria spaces for additional lunching space and the large areas and then at this point in time the 20 class Edition that we're doing at the high school so when you look at this you can see
050somewhere between six to nine years every six to9 years something is necessary um to occur to be able to manage the growth that we see in our district um we've absorbed all the growth from prol and Country TRS at this point the absorption rate is pretty high we could do an addition like we've talked about at Country trials the infrastructure there doesn't really have the place for any additional traffic um and Pros middle schreen you can do an addition for classrooms this the problem is going to be your elective spaces and having classrooms for your elective of coursework for your students so key points that I think we need to consider is that the obviously the enrollment facility capacity challenges are forecasted by RSP and Associates in August 2024 um I believe he was pretty
051conservative but it's still where he's at elementary is 249 students um added in here is what he's guessing uh Middle School 162 additional students and high school another 331 students as he projected out for 10 years he's projecting approximately 5,000 new housing units projected um or 60% increase in housing units um which obviously any additional student we see is going to put a continued drain on the buildings that we currently have um so they projected 742 students out of the 4,964 new units or 15 students per 100 units um the district grew by 1,651 units between 2014 and 24 and by 1,233 students over the same time period equaling basically 74 students per 100 so his his recommendation is 15 we've seen 74 per 100 U refle approximate 60% increase the total of housing un
052is forecasted for the district um obviously we want to look at this on an anner byner basis to see where we're at look at the yield rates one of the other things he did a yield rate for elementary but no yield rate for our middle school or high school students this our growth pattern you can see from 2006 to 2025 when we've almost doubled we had a 95.5% growth rate between 2006 to today uh with 5,070 students and then projected out so that's where our challenge becomes is how do you manage what's projected in the future and where we going to put those students as we've absorbed almost everything we got in every building the development existing versus potential and there's many developments out there that when I talked to algen in December of last
053year they weren't even on the docket to be breaking ground currently they have broke ground we're seeing the dir moving we're seeing everything being put in for the infrastructure um so in this I'm not sure spoke with where he's got this but he's making his development off I'm assuming El where I talk as well so currently we still have 422 homes um Dana is talking about the number of homes those are the permits that have not been pulled yet that are still current that could be pulled um just from our current construction we have um we have 83 homes that five years out there's still 83 homes on those lots that um have not started construction too much yet and potential for 2,712 additional homes in five years and then his next extension was we
054have four homes for what he's projecting in 10 years or 1,830 for a total of 1,955 um existing units or potential units would be 4,964 just adding up those three components so trying to look at units building growth and enrollment he's saying 15 students per 100 but I still wanted to provide what we've seen in the last 10 years is 74 students per 100 if we projected 4 students per run somewhere in the middle uh you can see it could be additionally 2,234 or 74 students be 3673 I believe he's conservative could be wrong U but I think somewhere in that range is where we're going to fall as we're looking at potential growth for our district one of the things RSP had was this kind of um gasoline tank looking kind of metric meter
055um that he looked at for elementary facilities capacity remember that he believes you should be somewhere between 85 and 95% at 95 he believes there's still enough flexibility um that you should be able to maneuver things it might be just a few minor things but you can see every one of our elementary buildings are currently there and plan to exceed the one that's a little bit scary is Harvey Thomas and that's the one we'll focus on for the most part because we're going to have to shift some boundaries um The Challenge there will be where to shift them to and as you look at Shifting the boundaries um how much do you imp the other buildings and so if we're going to put up local units or we're going to increase class sizes or whatever
056we're going to do those kinds of elements will be managed to try to U Get Harvey Thomas into a more reasonable level obviously in 28 29 the projected be at 111% of of their facility um but by 33 should be 34 but that's just cut from his presentation is 140% um all of these things as you are well aware cause major infrastructure challenges when I talk about infrastructure I'm talking about elective spaces when you build a new a new school and when they talk about adding classrooms they don't consider adding classrooms for the music the Arts physical education that has to be added just a classroom the classroom is great for a classroom teacher but it doesn't manage the enrollment of some of the elective spaces or some of those specials that we want those
057students to have as well as it doesn't take into account parking structure some of the traffic flow uh parents coming in and out drop off with those types of things so all of that is challenges that we're facing today and we will continue to face should the referend have not pass the secondary facility capacity um is at a critical level as well um Central Middle School obviously is a small building for um just it was a middle school one of the reasons historically we closed or we moved Central Middle School to an eighth grade Center was all the population was happening over by prie nes Middle School were was happening is teachers were being forced to shift every year to kind of just for the enrollment challenges and was causing a lot of stress and
058angst because they didn't know where they're going to be teaching and so when we redesigned inside six7 and eighth grade Center the challenge with that is a Athletics are located too far away we need to pass them to Pano middle school because our other athletic facilities are becoming problematic uh being you have to do part-time staff which makes it very difficult for some of the CCH at our elective classes we're trying to do uh just because never uh see our foreign language our department usually comes down and helps us instruct some of the courses or sections for foreign language like German's very hard having one section of German at an eighth grade Center probably is not going to happen there are some laws coming down the pipeline for two years of foreign language that will
059impact some of these things and we'll have to kind of watch how that unfolds but those are some challenges I think that we have in terms of do you open up Central Middle School smart P's Middle School bigger I don't know two middle schools and that will be a little bit later to look at that but bound shifts are absolutely necessary it's just what might they look like um to manage that especially if we're going to use both of those as a middle school to try to alleviate some of the stressors one of the questions was what is the average class per period for high school um so we did an analysis for this semester semester one of this school year and the average class is about 23 students um you can look from period
060one to period seven these are the average class sizes that are calculated for each of those periods so 22 kids per class 23 kids per class 26 kids per class so that's our average class size in each of the periods um that are happening at the high school that does not include I took out special populations which is our students with special needs who are in very small classrooms they not early classrooms you can use for geniz population we have a program called aot which is our Alternative Learning opportunity program for students that are struggling to get through High School uh we have some colg of career prep for kids that might need credit recovery or some of the other cred Rec mream and C classrooms full siiz class and correct so RSP had done
061this nice little graphic here and I laid in if we took the new addition and we said we had 24 class 24 students per classroom we would have a capacity of 1,774 students he's putting it at 1,914 because he's saying 30 kids can go in every one of those classrooms that's not reasonable we just that's not how high school functions that's not the way that it works and so I'm saying based on what I read or what I did was about 24 students per classroom that being said based on that we would be at 95% in school year 3031 even with this addition and this addition is not managing some of the elective spaces we have obviously we have parking challenges many other challenges that we're facing this is not a long-term solution these 20
062classrooms so at that point we're going to have to make a decision on how to manage this should the referend or not pass um so these will be some challenges that we're facing he guys's at 94% capacity um I'm saying we're going to be less than that so we'll hit 95% I believe in that 3031 um to have to manage that and we'll probably have to compromise some of our learning opportunities and expansions one of the things I wanted to show you so you can see when we talk about 30 kids per classroom we have a policy that has been a longstanding policy long before I was here in the district it was turned down to me um for any general ucation classroom we run it at 18 or higher so if it's less than
06318 we primarily cut that class at sectioning time and we do sectioning time around November December we kind of look at kids choices if they don't hit 18 we generally cut that class and then feed the kids into other elective courses and primarily this is for elective courses they have to have three years of math four years of um english four years of PE so those are elective classes the other ones and then we generally will not run an honors class below 15 however there challenges that we always try to weigh based on what a student needs or where a students at so when you look at some of these courses um we have an inter introduction at for us at 15 I will tell you that was Ran So we didn't lose our Music
064Teacher he's a quality music teacher we could not keep him full time if we did not break a section so we broke a section to keep him hired um so that one we knew was going to run just to keep him on staff the tech theater and tech one and two are running together those green colors are where teachers are selecting to run them together so they can at least run the course so tech one and two run together tech one has 17 kids and Tech 2 has two kids for a total of 19 which just brings them above that General number we need photography is running at 14 um it's very close to the you know 18 we had kids that were interested we don't want to decimate our art program and you can
065see our art program here is the one that's going to be the most challenged there's where our numbers are in terms of um courses below minimum um you can see they're running 2D Studio Art and 3D Studio Art together just to get to 18 so it's 13 and four I'm sorry 13 and five coming together at 18 and then they're running AP Studio Art 2D AP Studio art drawing and AP Studio Art 3D all together they're doing all the AP classes together um to come up with we got 25 students to be able to run those but the teacher is teaching those simultaneously uh because it's all portfolio based and then German 3 we ran at 11 primarily because you can't really skip German 3 and then be able to take it their senior year
066we'll see how many of these students holded on for German 4 um our teacher for German generally will run a German 4 and AP together as well as some dual credits she combines them to keep those courses running um so German 3 is one of those challenges and we decided to go ahead and run it even though it didn't hit the the market because those kids could not get that opportunity somewhere else to be able to finish that program that just boggles my mind that 1500 kids and we have 11 kids there are more than that in those classes when there were 550 kids in this high school it's very challenging well Spanish is seems to be the choice the language of you know the choice for the language so many many Rec kids take
067Spanish they just not going to German um courses meeting or exceeding minimum so this one was interesting so you can see these are a lot of AP classes uh AP Cal ab and AP Cal BC are both running right at the minimum 15 students uh human bodies a new program for us so running at 19 is pretty good for a brand new program in Career Tech education a English and language comp is at 18 AP stats is at 17 and AP Computer Science is at 18 so you can see it's our AP honors classes that are running very very close uh to those limitations as we continue to run them and so that's Dr what you're seeing dropping dropping down those class sizes and then threshold challenges are the other elements that we have um
068when I say threshold challenges when we look at video production running at 32 it's really to over what we generally run in class we can run it for more but we try Toop because of the work that they have to do in video production we have two sections one running at 8 and one running at 24 it's primarily because of where the fits in the student schedule so we have one that's running really really small vet science same thing we have 35 kids we have one section running at 10 kids and one section running at 25 environmental science we have 36 kids two sections one at 13 and one at 23 um AP site was split right down the center two sections I don't think they could do that again if they tried 17 and
06917 and then Eon is 33 which is two sections at 15 and 18 so the choices the board can make is a we can move class sizes it is uh in the contract there is a guideline and there is opportunity that you could shift class sizes we could cut programs um to look to make more space those are options too and looking at these you can see what would probably likely end up in that um that situation U but it does give you kind of a handle of where we're at in terms of enrollment so the potential impact for growth of the growth is uh obviously we have to do B shifts at the elementary school Lev um we won't be able to remove mobile units we will continue to have those but it will
070be how do we want to manage our mobile units do we want to try to equalize mobile units in every building do we want one building have more mobile units than the other we want to equalize the B shifts to ensure that everybody has an equitable number of mobile units um the other issue is it takes up parking spots um so every mobile unit is or 19 parking spots I believe um we did a measurements when you do the four classrooms of mobile units it's roughly 18 or 19 parking spots it takes up and there really isn't room to do additional parking spots at the elementary school level um but that's kind of where we're at there um increased class sizes which I taught again you could run classes on a cart through music art
071and health this year Country Trails had to break an extra section and we don't have another music classroom so the music teacher that's going for one period fromo there is actually teaching in the cafeteria um for that one period at this point in time we could do a hybrid schedule similar what we had done before you could choose to have electives done at home online and then choose to do the core face to face which we did kind of in Co so some kind of a hybrid schedule um but obviously there's going to be continued strain on transportation and parking middle school and high school um obviously there'll be limited academic and music programming you could see some of the challenges um that we currently see with our our elec forces so you may see
072some of those challenge a little bit more um PR middle school is going to be um in some trouble for space here shortly so we could add mobile units to panal Middle School um we could decrease the extracurricular activities currently we have 70% of students participating in at least one um so maybe don't run clubs but Run Athletics or reduce Athletics and run some of the clubs I don't know which way you go there I reduce access to student parking spots um so we already have the reduced access as it continues to grow we'll have additional reduced access increased class sizes again do a hybrid or split schedule at the middle school and high school um there's going to be increased challenges for a drop off at pkms and CHS obviously um an increase challenges
073in the large common spaces that we have uh with the exception of PK who has room in ceter but they don't have room for their elective fores or their specialist classes to expand is that hybrid schedule what they did like years ago where they oh split split where certain kids started from seven and then the second wave came in that was that was 1991 okay that was when kids were at school for four hours a day four hours 7 to 11 or 11 to three and we kind of did that during Co when we kept the doors open where every other school closed U we basically brought the alphabet in in the morning and then the second part of the alphabet in the afternoon um kind of that split schedule could happen so alternative Solutions
074uh could do mobile units um obviously advantages is quick and cost effective it's temporary fix uh for overcrowding it's flexible can be installed um the challenges are obviously those dollars you can't get back those mobile years do not sell well you take a pretty good loss they're $425,900 per four classroom units that's what we have in each of the buildings is kind of clustered together um Country Trails you have to add an additional 8,495 um and approximately 70,000 site work so they have some pad work they have to do just because where they're located they're located on the dirt they're not on the parking lot um they have they're adjacent to the to the playground um they're very tight in terms of their space if you go over there at this point in time the
075the houses are right up against our property fenes are there it's a very very tight space and not a lot of extra infrastructure to work with um it's a temporary solution not addressing the long-term growth it's just a bandaid kind of situation definitely strand infrastructure bath spes um cafeteria um and then of course we have our weather challenges we know last year they froze um we were able to to shut down froze and try to get learning at a different place um and waste management maintenance is an additional cost as well because you have to pump and dump the sewage we could do an early childh at EC and sixth grade to Central Middle School and eighth grade of perol why might we do that that would provide us the opportunity to get seventh and
076eighth grade together together we have athletic um programs over there we have the track over there we have the stuff that we can do we're currently busing some of our students over to Pros for some of the athletic events but that puts seventh and eighth grade together um the challenge is you're still going to be at a space at perano middle school for your M side class sites are pretty much the same so your space issues are still going to be there so you still have to go to mobile units at some point in time to absorb those costs um sixth grade could go as a standalone at Central Middle School um along with Early Childhood you could have some programming for reading some of those types of things with those students um it provides
077them access to kind of get a different op know feel but they don't automatically get Athletics so we would drop across country and some those athletic programs they're in and just say no for sixth grade but put them house them separately to minimize the shifting what would be the benefit of just pulling Early Childhood first so we're not reshuffling so many of them teachers especially well I think that the challenges the Athletics who are currently busing back and forth and so trying to get bus at the end of the day to get cental school to parel um just to allate we can always go in we can always go in sections um to do it there also we need time to be able to do what you need to do for Central Middle School because
078you need to get outdo or outside exterior doors for Early Childhood kids so you need to do that over the summer but it could be done and that's what I mean so instead of you move sixth eighth and early childhood as opposed to just Early Childhood even if that's a one or two year fix open up a couple classrooms in three of our buildings or whatever that is which again is grand scheme of things what that does two two classrooms might help for again a year or two right very tempor and Harvey Thomas it would not help much but yeah um decrease elected choices we said we already said there for sixth grade you would have to do that um and you going to have the part-time issues we still already have so I don't
079really to get away from that and the challenge here was the foreign languages CTE we do share staff with Central High School for eighth grade that will create a larger problem because they got to trans they got to travel from CHS to um so it just creates some problems for challenges there can move EC and kindergarten um to Central Middle School there is enough space there one through sixth grades in elementary and eighth grade at panas um and that would allow you to um have first through sixth grade together you've emptied out both kindergarten EC so the classrooms would work in terms of numbers um you would have an early childhood kind of approach to education where you'd have the K peers with the Early Childhood peers um still gets eighth grade over there for
080the a it would require time to retrofit before moving you could add mobile units for overflow um you could obviously temporary solution to address the long-term growth that we're having um we would um decrease a lck of choices because we put sixth grade off of a middle school and into an elementary schedule so licensing we' be looking for sixth grade teachers that have the licensure for elementary not lcer for high school and so they be selected based on ler sh eligability versus U maybe choice that could be another negative increased class sizes plus five over current guidelines at all levels and programs so you could increase for every classroom additional five students for um every single grade level based on what we currently have contractually um you can reduce the elective choices due to required
081class sizes to run um you could change the 15 to 20 and the 18 to 20 um three so those are choices we could make as well definitely would reduce Staffing and increase would increase turn around likelihood because you're going to lose more staff um interesting enough in the Illinois State Board of Education our staffing patterns are P are based on teachers that move to other buildings so we look at um you know some of the challenges of where our numbers are at is because somebody goes from for example a couple few people go from Pros to the high school that comes against us for retention because they move to a different building they have to stay in the building they're in in order for it not to count against you for Staffing patterns so
082this would definitely show up as a a reduction in holding staff um within our district decrease elective in special courses at all levels um obviously it adds immediate capacity for buildings provides space for increased enrollment it does diminish the experience for college and crew exposure it diminishes the overall educational programming experiences reduces student engagement without preferred course work in art music CT we know a huge benefit in learning for kids to have music and art there direct correlation between music and success in schools um so losing those types of things definitely could be problematic you could reduce the high school graduation credits to impact the C care options so currently our graduation credits are higher than the State Board uh we could reduce those all the way down to the state board and then limit
083the number of classes kids have to take and go with just the bare minimum um and so those those are options for decreasing elective and special courses at all levels as well as well and then other considerations is boundary changes you know redrawing District boundaries to balance uh student populations acost existing schools uh could be short-term relief um mobs at the elementary will still be required uh you could use Central Middle School as a second 68 B School challenge there would be you'll be consistently doing boundary shifts probably every two years because of where our population sit but we could try to monitor as close as we could but consistently just keep them as a 68 building much smaller 6 building PR with a larger and then do boundary shifts consistently to ensure that you
084can keep Staffing it as well as maintain the elective forces that you have staggered shifts or alternative scheduling so implementing shifts or alternative scheduling for middle and high school students could delay major construction but may negatively impact student life and extracurriculars obviously if they have to come in certain times it could impact them and what they're doing for their after school programm but you could definitely we've done it before do stagger shifts uh do it by alphabet alterate whatever we think hybrid scheduling any of those are are options um probably better for middle and high school than for Elementary uh but definitely uh challenging no no matter when you do it um utilization of the Route 47 property we do have um buildings on rout 47 property that we could utilize for CTE programs um
085we' have to retrofit some of the interior pieces to get them in there in the larg spaces you could bring in a Woods program motor program some of those things there it would just take up for the kids similar to what they do now with the CT but that's definitely an opportunity that we could take to to to do that um and then no matter what we do a referendum will be do there's there is no way out of this for the district uh at some point you will need a referendum to be able to manage the girls at every single level this is not one level challenge this is an every single level challenge that we're facing any questions that you have I have a question um because I think it it's brought up
086and I think it's important to touch on it as far as the retention issue could you you go into how the state views that because there's a lot of items out there in the public that nobody really understands about our retention and how that's calculated so could you dive into that yes so I went back and looked on the state board so retention even back in 20 2018 2019 our retention answer is pretty similar with they today uh retention inside of our district state board retention is based on if a district or teacher stays in the same building so we move our instructional coaches they count against us for retention when we have a teacher they're still in the district even though they're in the district we have teachers who want to go to another
087building that cons against us for retention um we shift somebody to another building that consen us for retention um so those all impact the retention rates that we have because we are a growing district and because we consistently move St every year you know we look at elementary we may have to put somewhere on the sideline instead of doing a reduction in force the board has not chosen to do a reduction in force in many many years which means we would just reduce anybody doesn't have a job in their building instead we put them to the side we keep them and then we move them where we need them so that they can keep their job but that all calls their gu just in terms of retention other questions I have a list but sorry
088I don't expect them to answer tonight how do we just have one do we have four classrooms as one mobile unit right is that currently what's at each building yes well except like lake has two L lake has two two of the four class no two total two two class okay in the high school how many more do we need for next year let's just go next year because I know we're going to me need more eventually how many more are going in next year it depends on how we section that's not an easy answer so we we section based on class siiz guidelines right depending what the board decides to do it would make a determination on what we want to do this year we chose to have fewer kids in the fifth grade
089mobile units because the size of them is challenging for a class of 27 kids yeah um so we are not putting 27 kids in those mobile units um we're trying to keep it a more reasonable number if we have to go there we can yeah it's very very tight but those classrooms are not the same size as our general classrooms inside of our our buildings but it really depends on each class in the number of sections each class breaks down to based on the guidelines that we follow whatever those guidelines are is adding five get more if it's less than that whatever we decide then you can you get fewer so it really is just a matter of those right and then do you have dollar figures where we're going to have to pay for
090like if there's remediation that has to happen every year is that factored in is that with mold or pipes freezing or is that just coming out of it just comes out of our operation budget um I don't think we have mold but um no I didn't oh got didn't mean that we Sorry clean clean the our M units is something that's maintained by billing maintenance as well as others as part of their operational budget okay so they take care of that in their operational budget okay um I hit a list sorry um I'm all over the place for the design dive I was one of those people that was double booked I couldn't be there can you are you sharing any of that out with like comments things that you heard can you sh okay
091um where probably putting on the side the maps along with kind of a break what was discussed okay and then I you Jennifer with that design dive I know we kind of went through the number of people that were there do we think that any of that attributed to I it sounds like there were other activities going on like I think one day it was at CHS there was something going on at pams like do we think that any of that played into it that there were some conflicts and schedules we looked at the calendars and again we decided of those days we looked at everybody's calendar those dates were open some people didn't have their calendars updated so we unfortunately got stuff done um that being said there's always something going on in our
092district to try to find a night that nothing's going on I it would be very hard pressed to to be able to find those kinds of evenings there's always something happening so then as far I mean because it was low participation I would say it was low participation it was standard oh you feel it was standard okay based on just other things that we've done standard for us it's standard which is I yeah when I went to the high school library we I don't think we had 30 community members there I got to break down by building I think I do well a lot of people with kids they have I mean you know we're gone Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday I don't have it my building and add in the other hours in
093the day that don't exist so it's like I don't know if more I don't even know what the answer is or to get more involved vement but obviously if their kids are involved and everything they're driving them to that even though I know a lot of people wanted to be there but couldn't but I don't know how much more would be but I mean the only other answer I can think to that is doing something virtually yeah we talked about you can sit in the car while they're at football or whatever sport that's kind a big conversation for us the problem is how do you make it interact with the maps because the maps are that was the whole point of that it's so to have it that small to be able to see everything
094and able to maneuver on a phone or would be very chall whole point of this was interactive right like you're four different stations so like you just you could have I guess theoretically observed but then there wasn't one stage it was people walking around in different yeah we we've talked a lot about it we had somebody else from our community that said that to me which we we've definitely looked at it the challenge is you can't get the interaction and the maps you'd have to pinch them and try to figure out where you're at and have the conversation it could be facilitated just one way but I'm not sure that's the approach that would get us what we' want um definitely could be managed in one way opportunity do we get any feedback from the
095community just like maybe emails to you of questions that they had around it or did we or was it kind of quiet after you did them or no I had a couple community members reach out where I got some great feedback it's one of the only places that the mobile unit steam stuff came from where I've addressed them and responded back to them we also are trying to put something out for them that will show all the maps they'll be look them up and pull them off the website so I can take a peek at them hopefully on the computer going to very challenging Ty a at it I know recently you sent out a question here did you get a lot of feedback from that or did okay and like you said I'm just
096trying to figure out how we can get more engagement because obviously we want to hear from the community so how can we get that we sent out four emails via parents gr PR to VI a social media put on a newsletter and put on a website so we did have it out there and obviously whatever emails we had from other community members aren't attached to active students sorry Jennifer Oh no you're good keep going another okay my thoughts are all over the place I got a million of them that's all right they can be all over we are not GNA stay here all night promise um other questions and it kind of pertains to the design dive is I know this is probably a really strange question but with Central Middle School it's old right
097is there a lot that can be done to that building and that may have been answered in that design dive because you know when you start cracking into Old buildings even if we have to move things there what can be done to that building and that might be answered in the design dive and you can send it out to me and be like take a look that is not answered there Dan but that that building can be done we we did HVAC work there there's not asbest we keep hearing asbest stuff there could be some that we would have to be yeah um when he gets into there but Dan I don't know if you want to address that a little bit more than I can address because that's kind of your yeah we've done
098quite a fews over the years's not a lot ofwe okay um anybody I think with with that question though I think there's a certain amount that we can not have to go out for referendum and is there anything that we can use you know I don't I don't know what is like all of the retrofits would be done with District dollars and they' be done have our operational budget so it's not going on for referendum so the retrofits are somewhere right around seven and a quarter million that would be coming out of District operational dollars we're not looking to do an additional referendum for that that was my that was a good question for so if we did let's say if we diild the high school that is the referendum has nothing to do with
099what we're doing at CMS pkms all that correct okay okay sorry that's fine I'm pausing so so doing the 10-c pause so someone else can ask a question if they have one I think the the graphic of the construction history is pretty striking that after you know in 1991 I was actually at me's house yesterday and he was on the vice president on the board when it failed three times passed the fourth time and they opened in 1991 um and kind of talking about that process with him um and just you think about referendums but there's all these other additions that were not done by referendums and so so just the amount of construction that has happened with the growth that we've seen um and even if it's a fraction the curve spend slightly yeah
100there's just not an option as you said at the very end we we need a referendum um and so you know it's gonna the time is just going to be how long it's going to take to get it and what does that look like and what's the added cost as we continue as yeah I mean I I agree I got another one um okay the high school class size by period without AA with AA that's advisory right the AA we we did we kept it with AA only because those are the numbers okay I just I wasn't sure what AA was I had it's academic advisory so it's a required for us for our teacher our teachers teach five sections yep five core Plus AA right now so it's part of their schedule so it's
101included the number supervisory is it's a it's a actually an academic class that they instruct and work with students so the uh was it here no it was here keep going this is with AA because it's part it's different because I took away so was confusing um because it really is the academic advisory is part of their core okay part of what they teach okay and my next question is um as far as the I love the breakout of I know how many students are taking electives how how many students do we have sitting in a standard class that's required integrated one two three for math in case anybody don't know what integrated is English 9 10 11 what are those class sizes because as these as kids keep coming in what what are teachers
102like seeing if we're talking about expanding or larger groups coming up how many kids are sitting in that standard level class that they must pass most mandatory courses like integrative one two three or English one we take them as close to 30 as possible okay those are probably our largest class sizes right the other courses aren't because they aren't mandatory so you have a lot more choice right you know there's 400 kids coming and you divide that out it's easy that section and it's much easier to section kids too because it happens every period those those are a little bit so with those we we go all the way up to theine I'm more concerned about the classes they have to pass that kids struggling that's my biggest concern okay and as we have the
103larger classes coming up what do we do in those standard classes if they're close to 30 now they're just are they going to just have to get bigger that's a decision you guys have to make yep I think you can go up it's all contractual language exactly exactly it's that's just one of the things I wanted to make note of with the the classes they they struggle with and they have to pass I think you mentioned that the only way that we can actually reduce the class size is like you said you have less of the electives and less of the I guess AP classes in order to maybe reduce instead of having it close to be3 closer to 25 and have more of the core that way but but obviously that's going the wrong
104direction you need more rooms right the challenge is you have to have the rooms to put the teachers in right and so you have to give something something has to go away if they have the space I think just in you saying that because I am concerned about like you said the retention and you know do we need more teachers but I guess do we have the room for more teachers do we have that we need right now I don't know what percent is Patrick probably could answer we have a lot of teachers on cards going to room to room so many of our high school teachers go from toart different rooms to different rooms take their stuff with them inside the hallways one of the advantages of the 20 class Edition when we can
105finally open it which will be second semester those teachers that are on cards are walking home space very they do have office spes and are we GNA are we finding that that's going to be the the same situation at the elementary like if we continue to go this way then we're just going to have more teachers on cart just trying to well you can only put so many people on a c right exactly you can do music and art not well but you can do them on a cart right you can do a car we already have related Services sharing so already sharing spes there's only so many rooms right there's only so many rooms I think to your point the I mean you know looking at that graph of how many referendums it took
106and all the you know I think personally I mean we're in the education business so offering less products is not appealing to anybody so we can you know decide to patch things up but ultimately it's it's not about a high school it's about right sizing our district and putting all the buildings in proper status yeah so I I I don't I mean we're here to educate people so that's that's the concern I have offering L product is not an answer I think my other question too is like if we talk about special education I mean we're what's happening with that because this is exploding the way it is I I can't think that those particular students that probably benefit from a smaller class size I mean that has to be obviously changing for them too
107like how does that impact them well we have so we have Co talk classrooms where you put special kids in a general classroom goes in the larger classrooms that could be you know close to the tip because they the math English class that they have science when it comes to a self-contained so a student that has more more deficiencies and needs additional support generally speaking we have smaller classrooms that we're putting them in because their class sizes are maybe six to eight kids and so we have smaller classes that wouldn't serve as a general education classroom but it serves the purpose of being able to educate a smaller group of specialized students who might need that support um and so it's really managing the spaces that we have one of the challenges that we hear
108about is the testing and finding space to do those accommodations that is very difficult when special education students who have different needs that they have for testing as well as people who miss school of attendance and need makeup tests so finding those kinds of spaces is a challenge as well but they do a good job they use every space theyve got whether it's a conference room or other elements the the administration teachers are very very good at figuring it out you say something answered it just the space for you know the different interventions and different tools that they need and being able to have that and how much is that population kind of growing for us too generally speaking right we say somewhere between 20% of your population is needs some kind of intervention whether
109it be special education or what we call tier two which is generalate students who have other supports they might need might be social emotional elements it can be non workers lot a multitude of things work on a for um so that as your population grows that grows because it's about 20% of your population and we're pretty consistent with that um in terms of where we sit we stay right around that 20% marker which is what you'd expect from what they call an mtss triangle so but as population goes that goes it's all czy and those spaces and for all our Specialists our spend teachers our psychologists or social workers where are are do where is where are they where is their space are they with everything that's going on with a like having to possibly
110ditch art on a card and things where are they going to they in office they're in an office right now where they're trying to put three or four kids in office space of sharing a classroom sometimes two or three teachers sharing a space um splitting it up with some partitions to kind of them to be able to instruct during that time um so it's really utilizing space in a different way um for them for the moment and what's the quality of it makes it real difficult when you it's always difficult but yeah but they're great at being able to do magic with they've learned like you said for how long bet you're just going to around SP that's the bottom line you know um other questions I'm good for the moment can't help myself thanks
111for putting that together y you're welcome probably hopefully not but you know couple months will say all right pH flug is going to review the Public Act 97256 so annually before October 1st school districts have to report this out onto um state to the State Board of Education um we use our employment information system report which is our Eis report um it's got all the benefits of health insurance retirement vacation days six days all those that kind of information on the report um so included in the board packet um we will post this on the website um you have your the school year 2024 report which is our most current report we have all right public act 97- 0609 so this is um annually school districts have to also post this information we have to
112post it within six business days after the final budget is approved which is tonight um so we have six days to get this up onto our website um and this is more for the imrf employees that exceed over $75,000 a year in their total compensation package package so included in your board packet is all the people that meet that that qualification excellent all right the enrollment report is there for us to look at too so any questions on that change the format but I think it's easier yeah all right we'll move on to foyers Micheline Waltz takes the win this month for the most foyers with six and so I don't know if you want to run through those yep so freom of information for this month we have Genesis one received request for information
113regarding District printer leases print management software and toner uh we were able to comply with that request Miss Curts we receiv received a request for results of all surveys or feedback forms received by any board member or the superintendent between January 1st 2024 and June 30th 2024 as well as emails related to these surveys or feedback forms uh this request was denied as it was deemed unduly Veron but we invited Miss CTS to reduce the scope for request which she has done uh so we later received a revised request from her um Miss Welch we received a request for the chart of accounts used by Central 301 for accounting purposes and related descriptions we able to reply um and comply to that request Miss Welch we received a request for any email communication between myself
114Dr mgin and shine Corporation between January 1st through August 27 2024 as well as any email communication to or from myself Dr mang related to Pingu Creek we able to comply with this request but redacted some information pursuant to for rules and regulations Miss carabis we received a request for the total number of students in each section of each class including lunch periods at Central High School for the current school year we were able to comply with that request Miss Welch we received a request for all meeting minutes from Board of Education meeting from July 2006 through June of uh 2008 we were able to comply with this request Miss Welch we received a request for Ericson engineering report and slide presentation from the October 12th 2023 Board of Education meeting we able to comply
115with this request however there wasn't a board of ed meeting on October 12th so there was no information to provide Miss W we received a request for the traffic study performed by Ericson engineering for the future High School were able to comply with this request however the traffic study was not finalized so we did not have that report to provide Miss Welch received a request for all information all emails text messages and other written correspondents in our phone notes between myself and Robert Schwarz or anyone else from RSP and Associates were able to comply with this request but redacted some information pursuing to foyer rules and regulations so a very busy for month and getting to the point where we may have to talk about trying to some support because of the hours that's taking
116us to do the foil so do you think there's any of these foils are taking more than eight hours to complete um well it takes uh it's not just the foil officer we have to pull everything so it's our Tech total time toal we have to read every email I would say that some of them are getting close to depending on what they're asking for because you got to read every single email and every go through all everything so eight hours or that could possibly be possibly do we have the ability to charge for them we could charge for them if we would like to add that to our board policy we do have the opportunity to charge I think we need to discuss that yeah it would be a discussion because even like looking
117at the cost of time right now yeah well I mean if we're considering needing the help then yeah that means it's it needs to be paid for that's something this board sets as policy correct I could bring the board policy for you but yeah let's that okay yeah thank you all right that wraps up tonight we need a motion and second to uh adjourn Open Session and move to close session so moved second pepus yes buy yes a sorry Fulk yes Hil yes Nolan yes Gorman yes the motion is carried thanks everyone for coming out e