001let's go all right 7 p.m we'll call the meeting to order welcome everyone to the august edition of the columbia school board meeting we'll start with our roll call please kimberly here here andrea here greg meyer here scott middleton is absent lisa schumacher here tyson search here all right we have a quorum thank you very much everybody with stan join with me with the pledge of allegiance i pledge allegiance of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all great thank you all right welcome all our visitors and guests this evening glad you could take the time out to join us and everybody watching from remote glad to have you participate uh do we have any public comments would you
002like to speak anything to say no all right that was easy move on to our correspondence i believe that's going around the room any correspondence nope all right light month all right we'll move right into the business here we'll start with our consent agenda that's great if you'd walk us through that please it's um pretty long i mean we've got the minutes and we've got the financial statements and the budget reports and things of that nature but the employment this has been one crazy summer i must say um it's just been person after person so we've got 11 employee educational support personnel and three certified i see that uh dana is here our new high school business person and uh patrick bellinger our interim high school assistant principal is here he uh started monday so
003we're thankful to have him um right now we still need a school psychologist we have one in district and she'll be able to cover some things but we had two previously and we'd like to have another one we need some parapros and when i say some pair of pros we are currently still in the process of of moving people around and trying to make sure that all of the children's needs are met we need to cook at least one cook and uh the high school is still without a nurse our nurse that we had last year had that baby and she did not return to us she's gonna stay at home so we wish her best of luck there but we do still need a nurse given all of those things um administration recommends the
004board approve the consent agenda as presented i'll make a motion right into it right we have a motion to approve the consent agenda right here a second i'll second thank you tyson arroyo please adam hunt yes tammy hines yes andrea ford yes craig fire yes lisa schumacher yes tyson search yes perfect that was easy all right we'll go on to our communications reports and presentations so uh i believe our first item we're probably gonna have to go out of order we'll just well just real quickly i just heard the door and maybe that's mr schmerzel but uh those of you that came to be uh to meet the board thank you for coming and you can probably nice to meet you all nice to meet you too it's been a super friendly place one weekend
005it is mr smartshell perfect you're up just in time well there's no reason to get here early so first while i'm passing these out let me apologize for wearing the mask as it turns out my lungs suck so i i just wear it and the good news is having been grounded more times than i can count for being too loud now it comes in handy because i can talk right through the mask and it's okay so we're here a little earlier this year than we have been in other years we moved our schedule around a bit because you had a change in your accounting administration and we thought you was the board and chris certainly a superintendent deserved to know that the year ended with everything being okay and so we jumped right on it
006so everybody have one so you've got in front of you a draft subject only to board approval now what you have in front of you is selected pages that we're going to talk about specifically as a part of the presentation if anybody really wants the whole 69 page document i have a couple of copies we were trying to save a tree chris has an electronic version as well we will issue the electronic version and a handful of the paper copies upon you all approving so this report if we turn immediately to the independent auditors report this is a clean opinion which is to say that we did the audit we did in accordance with generally accepted alding standards and so forth and governmental standards and we found no discrepancies in any of our tests now
007for those of you who are eagle-eyed you will notice this report looks substantially different than the reports you received in the last several years it's not because there's any problem with the audit or the school district finances but simply because the american institute of cpas and their infinite wisdom chose to substantially change the audit report and so they've added more words and more bullets and more paragraphs at the end of the day it says the same thing which is that we did an audit we did it in the fashion in which we were prescribed to perform it and we found that everything turned out just fine if we turn to what is page four which is the assets and liabilities of columbia school district and this is on the regulatory basis prescribed by the state
008of illinois you see the first two items jump out at you as cash and investments cash in total if you look at the total memorandum column on the right cash of 5 million 649 investments of 16 million 381 for total cash and investments of a little better than 22 million dollars 22 million 30 000. that is up from the previous year some and reflects the reinvestment of every bit of excess of revenue over expenses that you had this year into your cash and investments what's more as you've attempted to capture better interest rates you've actually moved monies out of your regular cash into your investments so of the and we'll see the number in a bit of the roughly 2.7 million excess that you had this year every bit of that went into investments plus
009so that your investments are actually up three million three hundred and fifty thousand dollars and your cash balance in the various funds is actually down a bit from 6.1 million to 5.6 now all of the funds but one showed an increase in their fund balance which is to say on the cash basis an increase in their cash and investment position the only fund you have that did not show an increase in your cash and investment position was the fire prevention and safety fund the fire prevention and safety fund spent monies on capital items in excess of that current year's collections of tax levy and we'll see that in a minute of course you still ended the year with some 400 and almost 30 000 of net equity in the fire prevention and safety fund that
010fund spent well last year that fund spent some fifty thousand dollars on the once every ten year architectural study to ensure that safety standards at the school were up to snuff this year you spent in that fund alone 30 000 in new farm panels and another 315 000 in tuck pointing so those expenditures which were in excess of the tax levy for that particular year is what caused the expenditures to go down now those two expenditures the 30 000 in far in far panels and the 315 000 in tuck pointing were all capitalized and so they show up in the general fixed assets column which is two columns to the right of the fire prevention and safety fund general fixed assets for columbia school district sit at the end of the year net of depreciation
011and remember depreciation is the non-cash estimate of wear and tear on your fixed assets over time net of depreciation your fixed assets sit at twenty eight million seven hundred and twenty one thousand dollars we've seen those balances increase substantially for several years they're actually down this year which is to say you spent about 900 000 just a little bit short in capital assets you had depreciation of about 1.8 million so net net that fixed asset fund is down by some nine hundred thousand even though as i said you spent almost nine hundred thousand in fixed assets at nine hundred thousand you spent we talked about three hundred and fifteen thousand in tuck pointing we talked about the thirty thousand dollar fire panels you spent another roughly hundred and fifty thousand dollars on buses another ninety
012five thousand on parking lot refurbishment you had a hundred and ten thousand in computer upgrades which is a constant in this day and age and 85 000 or so in security cameras in the in three of the schools so those are the major expenditures that led to that some 900 000 in capital assets next to the fixed asset group you see general long-term debt and i'm going to take you down to the liability section under the regulatory basis for the state of illinois the only liabilities we show are taxes and sorry payroll taxes in which you have really none and the bonds your bond balance as of the end of the year was eight million eight hundred and thirty thousand dollars now as we'll see that is reflective of scheduled principal payments all in december
013of this fiscal year scheduled principal payments of three million three hundred and ten thousand as well as some roughly hundred and sixty thousand in interest payments that principal amount of three million three hundred and ten thousand is substantially driven by the 2020 bond issue that you issued in connection with substantial improvements in the last couple of years of that three million three hundred and ten thousand three million and fifty thousand of that is specifically principal payments associated with those twenty twenty bonds you have three bonds outstanding fourteen seventeen twenty next year you'll have principal payments so some 3 million 345 000 of which again almost all of it is those 20 20 bonds and at this rate you'll have that bond issue paid off in really record time so that is your assets and liabilities
014if there's no questions i will turn to page five which is your revenues and expenses and let me first take you to the answer which if you go to the far right column which says total memorandum only that's the total of all your funds you will see that you had an excess of revenues over expenses third number from the bottom of that column of 2 million hundred and seventy six thousand that was generated as a result of thirty one million six hundred seventy five thousand in total revenues from all sources for the school district and then expenditures of all types of 28 million 899 almost 29 29 million dollars now let's talk about the 31 million and change 31 million 675 000 in revenue of that amount 5 million 5.5 million is state on behalf
015payments those are ex revenues and expenses of equal amount that the state spends on your behalf and so they get reflected as both that leaves you then with another roughly 26 million in revenues from other sources the biggest single amount of that as you would expect is your real estate taxes which came in at right at about 17.5 million this year we'll glance at the real estate detail in a moment but 17.5 million is real estate of which it's over a million up from the previous year monroe county was up by roughly a million st clark county real estate taxes are up by roughly a hundred thousand so that left you was 17.5 million in real estate taxes replacement taxes for every governmental entity that we have seen this year for the state of illinois
016were up dramatically and that's simply reflective of the state of illinois catching up from some coveted delays in tax collections so your replacement taxes this year were 717 000 for perspective last year that was three hundred and twenty nine thousand i'm sure you didn't budget for that much i haven't seen the government identity yet that saw that coming to that extent but that's the the increase in that area many of the other areas of revenue increased because of covered impacts last year as opposed to this year as you returned more to normalcy so food revenues for example were 10 000 last year 95 000 this year activities went from 125 to 165 000 this year the eagle zone doubled from 45 000 to 96. those are the revenue impacts you had preschool went from 75
017to 130 000. all of those went into the total revenues on the expense side as we said 28 million 899 thousand 5.5 million of that is the state of illinois payments on your behalf another 3.5 million is bond principle and interest as we discussed just a moment ago the rest of it is another 19.8 plus or minus in expenses which are directly controllable by you all the lion's share of which of course is salary and benefits salary and benefits for the school district this year represented roughly 70 percent of your total expenses and that reflected both increases in salary you had raises baked into that as well as what we saw was some 30 ftes over and above what you had in the previous year so those items drove the predominance of your expenses the
018other big change in your expenses was all the items you would expect because of covet utilities were higher this year than last year travel was higher this year than last year and so forth so that drove your expenses and as we said two million seven hundred and seventy six thousand of revenues and excessive expenses and the only fund which showed a deficit was the fire the fire prevention and safety fund i will keep going unless anybody has a question the next page is just for you to get a chance to see the detail of your assessed valuation i have a sense you all look at this pretty carefully i know chris studies it and make sure all this comes in just fine but we saw that you collected as we said 17.5 million of real
019estate taxes this year which was actually a slight bit more than levied and that's simply because you caught up on some of the past due amounts traditionally colombia and all the governmental entities within colombia collect right around a hundred percent every year but it doesn't often go over a hundred percent so i think that means you give yourself an a plus the next page is and that is to talk about your imrf funding and we've talked about this at various times in in previous years you have in various years seen either under funding or over funding now neither of those is necessarily good or bad although all things considered i prefer over funded underfunded but it's not unusual to have a pension liability that would be in excess of the assets that you hold but
020in this particular case for you all in 2021 you have a pension liability which is the far left column a pension liability of 13 280 you have pension assets of 14859 which causes you to get a negative liability which is accounting for over funded so you have you you have more assets in your plan at 2021 then you have liability to the tune of 1 million 578. now let's talk about that a second in the first place the liability is an actuarial estimate so there's really no way to know ultimately what the the real liability is but you are nevertheless have plenty of assets in the plan in 2021 to fund that actuarial liability you have every year like clockwork paid into the state exactly what their actuaries tell you to pay and that's reflected
021in these assets but what's really happened for you if you look at the the list of years that are here and you look at 2018. in 2018 you had a pension liability net of 1 million three hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars and as you can see over the course of the next three years you ate away at that and then began to build a surplus so that you went from a net liability of a million 387 to a net liability of 273 to a overfunded status of 525 000 to now one million five seventy eight i mentioned that not just so you can sleep better tonight but to prepare you for next year because when you look at nineteen and 21 you will see that you enjoyed within your fund investment income of 1932
022[Music] 1724 and then most recently 2 million 247. all of those investment amounts would have been in excess of expectation in terms of the returns that are baked into your plan i mention that because the market is not happy and so don't be surprised if you see a winnowing away at some of your excess position in the next year or two i say in the next year too because as the actuarial computations are performed they don't put all of the gain or loss in investment portfolio in any one year they amortize it for actuarial purposes over a three to five year period and so you will still enjoy some of the gains that you had in the early years but you'll also to the extent that the market is down start to see that pull
023back at the end of the day you have consistently been between 89 90 funded which would be slightly underfunded too over funded as you are now at 110 percent that's been the range you fall in and for for you all that seems just really appropriate i'd like to see the market not hurt your over funding status but my suspicion is when we meet last next year we'll be talking about that to move then to federal monies part of our audit is an audit of federal monies and the columbia school district as did many many other governmental entities saw a significant increase in the last couple of years in the federal monies that you received in large part because of the coven situation so it's our responsibility to audit those federal monies as a part of
024the overall audit to ensure there's no fraud to ensure that all the monies were expended in compliance with the specific provisions of the grant to ensure there were no other material weaknesses that we discovered so this first two-page report is the report on internal controls it's a clean opinion which is to say your internal control structure is appropriate for a school district of this size in nature and provides protection over your assets the next two pages is a detail of the federal monies you received and expended by program type and then by specific program number and you can see on the second of those two pages in page 61 you received and extended over 2 million dollars in 2021 gonna the the next page is some notes beyond that is another report on the compliance
025of your operation of the grants and then finally i'm going to take you to page 66 and on page 66 there are seven questions and they are all appropriately answered no i'm on like sort of three pages four pages from the end of this group of pages it's 66 on the bottom oh did i put those out of order yeah well that's the oh so we did kept trying to get a piece of paper apart well that's a that's a special audit approach but in any event the summary of auditor's results and i wanted to just say to you it says no across the board no material weaknesses identified for financial reporting no significant deficiencies no non-compliance material to the financial statements no in terms of the federal programs no material weaknesses no sufficient significant
026deficiencies and no audit findings disclosed in accordance with 2 cfr 200.516 a which of course you all know what that is but to be specific and it's kind of pointless but that specific provision of the code says we're required to report and we said no we're required to report if we see a violation of law if we see fraud if we see question cost in excess of 25 000 of material programs if we see 25 000 in question costs and on programs we didn't audit which as an aside and we're really done but i'm always amused by that provision because it says in the body of the requirement we don't expect you to find anything because you didn't audit the program but if you do happen to find a problem in a program you didn't
027audit required to report it so in any event ladies and gentlemen this is a very positive audit report i should mention that we had complete cooperation of chris and his staff there were no disputes no disagreements over accounting issues or access to records no disagreements over the presentation of the financial statements in all ways the audit went textbook albeit a bit uh time compressed because of the specific circumstances and we're delighted to have been here in august and that's all i have any questions very thorough thank you very much given no questions uh administration recommends the board acknowledge the presentation of the annual financial report and audit and to prove the information provided maybe you'd like to make that motion thank you lisa do i have a second i'll second all right yes andrea corey
028yes greg meyer yes mrs schumacher yes tyson search yes yes great thank you for your service appreciate it thank you thank you all right so we're back to enrollment report then everybody's on the front looks like we're up a little bit down 12 from last year's this time so pretty consistent onto the administrative report our assistant superintendent um so i um have kind of switched up and i have some pictures to share with you tonight i think that a picture speaks a thousand words and there's can kind of give you a better idea of what's been going on around here so um just kind of getting ready and preparing for the school year several of our staff members gave up those last precious few days before school started to come in for professional development we
029had math professional development we had our de-escalation and crisis prevention training we had our cafeteria head cooks coming in to do things bus drivers came in for pre-meetings and routes and all that so just a lot of people giving up those last few moments to come in and and really make sure that we're being able to offer our students the very best this year the other thing is a picture of the freshly waxed floors which i will say is personally my absolute favorite thing at the start of every year but i think it just goes to show how incredibly hard our custodial and maintenance staff worked all summer when chris and i talked to kurt at the end of last school year his to-do list was unimaginable and then it kept growing as the summer
030went on i mean to see everything that they were able to accomplish i just think is amazing they're still working hard trying to get some more things knocked off that list but you know all of our departments um everyone in the district worked really hard over the summer to make sure that that we were ready to go this week um we had open houses and or freshman orientation so my one of my favorite pictures is this one down here um so steve lake who is our head of transportation that's him at our eagle view open house um eagle view is you know as you work through right those are all the excited parents and the nervous parents and they have lots of questions and the building is packed but at one point i laughed and
031i said i think steve was probably the most popular person in eagle view that night his line every time i'd come past him in the hallway kept growing and growing um and i told steve um and abby both later on that they remained incredibly even keel and calm had it been me at the table i think i would have gotten overwhelmed and panicked and um but our transportation department is just outstanding they do a great job um and then like so the other pictures the top two are from open houses and then the bottom one it was actually our freshman orientation that our student council and our upperclassmen at the high school put on and it was a really awesome day to see that many freshmen participate in and all the things they got to
032find out about the school to to ease their fears about starting high school and then we had opening day which was very exciting our admin staff so the picture up on the top left our admin staff cooked uh pancakes and we had fruit and some other pastries um but they were um having their own little contest about flipping who could flip pancakes the best they wanted to start seeing who could flip them the farthest so that might be next year's contest of how far they can go but they enjoy it and i think the staff really enjoys it as well but it's just kind of um a good reminder or a way for the administration to say thank you again to the staff just kind of serve them and do what we can for them
033the picture in the bottom middle is a little harder to see and i will give photo credit to taylor nickerson on that bottom middle picture um but that was just a picture of all of our staff we start off in the cafetorium at the middle school with all of the staff there and have that breakfast and some opening words and then the picture on the top right sarah mcginty had reached out to me and shared that one of the traditions pre-covered was that we had a high school student come and sing the national anthem and that was something that chris and i were both unaware of as we were kind of came into the district in the covit era so i appreciate her letting us know and sharing some of these pre-covered traditions i think
034that's really important that's kind of what makes columbia colombia is a lot of those traditions and so we were lucky enough to have our sophomore noah parker come and sing the national anthem for the whole staff to kind of kick off our back to school event so it's been two days with the kids i will say it's been two amazing days and again that just goes back to everything that people did over the summer to prepare and get ready for it and just the incredible staff that we have here the new additions even though some came very last minute have all been wonderful additions so far to our district and so i'm really excited to see what the school year holds ahead of us great thank you mr grody yeah i'm just going to echo
035a few of those things the uh it's the beginning of the year walking around the schools is great but there's also when we pick up at the end of the day with the buses they then go to eagle view for what's called the transfer and if you've ever been able to experience it it's just outstanding because all the all the kids get on the buses and then at eagle view they get off you know they get off and they have to transfer to the bus that they have and we all have our sheets of paper and we're telling kids where to go and everything and it's just a well oiled machine but standing there there was a child who didn't wasn't quite sure exactly what bus she was supposed to get on and mr lake
036looked at her and said where do you live she gave it okay that's bus number it was just the knowledge that they have and the smoothness that the eagle view staff have with getting the kids everywhere and everything i had a uh a little boy who wanted to get off the bus because he was told to go find his kindergarten sister and the bus driver was like oh no no the kindergartner will come and kindergarteners came out and they got on the bus and he was happy to see his sister but it's just you see these moments and you just it touches you and it's wonderful um we on monday had our first emergency planning meeting for the year so while we're doing all those other meetings and getting ready for the instruction of the
037year we're also meeting and talking about our emergency plans and our drills and things of that nature um we had some conversations there we are reaching out to the 4e training the people that do our 4e training to see if they can do a security audit of the buildings there were some discussions about what we want to do it's you know there's always something in the highland park uh school district which is around chicago um they had that shooting on the fourth of july and so their school is currently doing some more lockdowns and things of that nature and you think that it can happen here but it you just got to be prepared for that so we've been having those meetings um and i'll have more information for you with that uh we will
038have executive section uh executive session tonight but there's no action coming out of it i just need to talk to you about a few things so with that that's the superintendent's thank you all right move on for our items for action the first one is to approve the 2022-2023 budget display yes and this is putting the dis the budget on display and it'll be on display for 30 days so i will remind everyone that next month's meeting is not the third thursday but the fourth thursday because you need to have 30 days where the budget's on display so administration recommends the board approve the placing of the 2223 budget on display um and if you approve that then we'll talk about when we'll have the hearing which will be the fourth thursday next week but
039would anybody like to put the budget on display with emotion you two were just battling it in a second so all right tammy first you go second man okay okay perfect all right roll call please andrea cory yes yes yes and with that passed we'll have to establish our time and date for the 2022 budget hearing yeah and so historically we've always had it right before at the normal time of the regular meeting with the regular meeting to follow the hearing um again the budget's going to be on display for 30 days so we're saying uh the fourth thursday which would be september 22nd at 7 pm would be a nice time for a hearing everybody good was moving the meeting and having the budget hearing on the september 22nd i guess we need to
040make a motion to schedule our budget and prove the budget hearing then we'd like to make that motion i'll make the motion thank you didn't make me beg i appreciate that all right we have a motion to a second i'll second thank you lisa this one is no money so all in favor all right all right any opposed 7 pm 10 pm yes perfect right motion carries all right item c is approval of the 2022-2023 safe return to in-person instruction and continuity of service plan and remote learning plan yes this is one of those things that we got from our lawyers the federal dollars that we get with some strings one of them is having one of these plans um and so administration recommends the board approve the safe return to in-person instruction and continuity
041of service plan and remote learning plan it basically just says how we will treat covid and that masking is is at this point optional i believe there's a typo on the first page of this kimchi oh did she okay the date no um the counties and the district oh this says august 18 2002 oh that is probably wrong too yeah a little retroactive maybe we'll change the date to make sure that we're in the right county my apologies with those modifications i would still recommend that we pass this plan all right maybe like to make a motion to improve the plan with the modifications noted anybody i'll make a motion thank you tammy save me all right have a motion in a second a second thanks titan this probably involves money so i think we
042need a roll call on this one so we'll call please greg meyer yes is this schumacher yes tyson search yes adam hampton yes yes right d is the approval of a surveying contract uh we we talked about that last month and um mr hemkin i said i'd bring you a thing mr hampton brought up the fact that it seems to be a little pricey and so what the recommendation right now is is that we table it and we will uh meet over the next month and see if that price is negotiable or what's really needed and why it would be that so at this point in time we're going to just table that action item and not move forward on that survey just so the public of the board knows adam uh was the first
043to actually notice this and and uh i agree wholeheartedly with him and when we were spending taxpayers money we just want to make sure we get the best deal and we're spending them as wisely as we possibly can an expenditure of this size i think needs a little more scrutiny than we can do in a meeting like this so i i think we're going to form a committee and we'll look at it in depth and come back with a recommendation to the board for those wondering it was 32 000 for a survey i do have a question on the one that said roadway construction or connection do we have permission to connect to route 3 or is that not at this point in time but that would be would it be possible if we would
044is what we're really kind of looking at so would we need that we really wouldn't need that done until we know if we have we have approval that's going to be where the subcommittee needs to discuss okay that's exactly some of the questions that we have right it is a very complicated matter to to really iron out this quick so i think the important thing to do is take a little time look into it find out what our options are and then then be able to answer these questions okay thank you any other questions but in the meantime perfect all right we will table that one discussion items we're going to the facility study which we kind of start in that a little bit here we did um we are still in that design stage
045we did get more uh survey informations out to the high school um the the through their school improvement team each department has a form and they're working with the teachers within their teams to get that information together the key thing that we're looking at is expanding at the high school because um well all buildings are pretty full the high school is the place that we could build on to move the district office possibly into that space which would open up a hallway here to add more classrooms in eagle view middle school is the only school that really has more room still to grow into although they use a lot of it for other things it's no space is ever empty but uh you could add more classrooms there um and so the high schools where
046we're looking at and we're collecting that information as far as what we would like to see with that so get more information soon any questions all right next item is individual board member comments anybody have anything they'd like to say tonight so i actually just want to echo part of what a alyssa said going into the middle school this summer you know a few days ago you know i like her i like to see the the glossy floor it was just i actually was the first thing i said to my kid when we walked in i was like wow they spent a lot of time on these floors you know and i mean having ran up of her it's not easy work it's not fun work but it does it looks great so i just
047wanted to echo the thanks to the staff for the maintenance they were there even washing the inside of the windows and some other stuff even though the day before school started so yeah thank you anyone else all right i really don't have anything the public i've reached out to me during this last month has been discussing our turnover just want to let everybody know it's we're not unique to this situation every school i've talked to board members from a lot of different districts over the past month and everybody's in the same boat that we are so it's just a revolving door and and employment is hard no matter what and i do want to thank mr grudy and and mrs smith for thinking outside the box and getting these positions filled and we're uh we're
048making it happen so it's uh it's not an easy job but uh i think we're we're doing great on replacing and holding our own and as long as we take more from other people they take for us i think we're doing good that's all right all right and with that entertain a motion to enter into executive session for the purposes of appointment employment compensation discipline performance or dismissal of a specific employee of the public body or legal counsel for the public body including hearing testimony on a complaint lodged against an employee of the public body or against the legal counsel for the public body to determine its validity 5ls yes 120 slash 2c1 and b discuss student disciplinary cases pursuant to 5 ilscs 120 2 c9 would be like to make a motion to adjourn
049into executive session i'll make a motion thank you andrews wait a second i'll second okay roll call please yes as mr gordy alluded earlier there is no action expected from our executive session so nothing's on the agenda so really not a whole lot's going to happen afterwards you all are more than welcome to come in and rejoin us and hear our motion to dismiss but that is entirely up to you all right welcome back we just concluded our executive session there is no action to be taken as a result of our executive session so we'd like to make a motion to adjourn i'll make a question thank you lisa do i have a second i'll second thank you andrea all in favor aye aye any opposed didn't think so all right motion adjourned thank you
050very much appreciate you joining us