001Okay, calling this meeting into order. So, uh, in accordance with the open public meetings NJSA 104-6, adequate notification of this meeting has been pro has been provided by advertising in the courier news and posting notice in the board of education administration building and district schools and filing notice with the burough clerk. I hereby call to order the special public meeting Tuesday, October 28, 2025 in the Lincoln Middle School Cafetum, 400 Denellan Avenue at 7:03 p.m. This meeting is broadcast live. For details, check www.danellonschools.org. Can you guys hear me? Okay. >> Okay, you can hear me. All right, cool. Uh, Mr. Pepe, could you please call the role? Mr. Hello. Hello. There it goes. Mr. Anderson, >> present. >> Mrs. Condit, >> present. >> Miss Ibeck, >> Dr. Gendrono, >> present. >> Mrs. Howard, >> present.
002>> Mr. Senoi, >> present. >> Miss Shyf, >> present. >> Mrs. Shep, >> present. >> And Mr. Walker, >> here. >> We have a quorum. All right. Thank you, Mr. Pepe. So, uh, moving on to item number three, pledge of allegiance and moment of silence. The flag is Oh, >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Will you all please remain standing for a moment of reflection and respect for our troops serving throughout the world, our troops who have served and our troops who have made the ultimate sacrifice in the name of our United States of America. Thank you. Moving on to item number four uh in the on the agenda,
003president's remarks. I have nothing much to say other than good evening everyone. Thank you for being here. Let's uh let's get this going. Um we have not a lot to talk about but definitely a lot of interesting details to talk about. Uh so at this point I will move it on to item number five, superintendent report. Mr. Ross, >> thank you Dr. Dendrano. I will uh just very briefly share that uh the purpose of today's special board meeting is to approve um the bid for the preschool expansion facilities project. Um and uh Mr. Pepe will provide additional information uh during the discussion portion of this after the vote and second. But just reiterating the information that I shared at the last meeting. This bidding and award process um has basically gone on since about midepptember
004September 19th. Uh we issued the bid. There was a pre-bid walkthrough and there were a couple of processes that continued after that. The bid opening occurred on October 17th and um the winning bidder uh packet was sent to the board attorney for review to ensure that the bid that was submitted was responsive and that the bidder was responsible uh in in those legal terms. The construction schedule that we have tentatively is about 14 months starting late October uh with uh with tonight's um board meeting and award and then there's going to be a notice to proceed um to the awarded general uh contractor permit application and then some kickoff meetings in about mid November. We're anticipating substantial completion by about December 31st, 2026. Um, and we will keep the board and the public updated with
005information as we move throughout the project. And that is the end of my report. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Ross. Moving on to um Oh, moving on to item number uh six. Um, right, we had the looking ahead ones, right? That um item number six, public comments. Uh, the board invites public comment from members of our community in accordance with board policy 0167 on any issue or any topic. Public comment sections are intended to provide an opportunity for members of the public to express themselves on school matters of community interest. The board and administration will take notes during the public comment, but will not provide substantive responses to questions or concerns raised by individual speakers. If necessary, the superintendent may provide a brief response after the entire public comment period is completed. The board appreciates and
006welcomes feedback from the community, but is not at liberty to engage in a back and forth dialogue with members of the public during this portion of the meeting. Sorry. Prior to making your public comments, please state your name and municipal name and municipality. Please note that all statements must be directed to the presiding officer. Please come to the microphone at this time if you would like to make comments on any issue or any topic. Last call. All right. All right, then. So, moving on to item number seven on the agenda, operations action items. Um, looking for a motion to approve 7A. >> Approve 7A. >> Second. >> Okay, we are open for questions and comments. And at this time, I'm going to turn the floor over to Mr. Pepe. >> So, we we [clears throat]
007advertise for our bids for this project um and are advertised the bid opening as Mr. Ross said on October 17th. We had 12 biders, which is a very nice number. 12 companies interested in this project. The bids ranged from 6.3 million to 8.9 million, which is pretty wide range. Uh we did in light of the fact that the lowest bidder was um significantly below the next bidder by like $750,000. >> You It's not on. >> Oh yeah, >> the low. Yeah. So, the lowest bidder was about 750,000 less than the next lowest bidder. So, we were cautious about this and we actually had the lowest four bids reviewed by um our architect, by our construction management company, and by our attorney. And so after the review by all of them uh making sure that all
008of the information that was supposed to be there was there that everything uh was responsive to the requests and the bid. We did find that the fir the lowest bid was um a responsible bid. So we are um awarding the bid to the lowest bidder that is a construction company called Northeastern Interior Services. Um after the bid opening we opened the floor for questions and for um the people who were present. There were many construction companies there present for the bid opening and we gave them the opportunity to ask questions or to look at any of the materials. Uh there's really only one question they all wanted to know about the subcontractors for the lowest bidders. So we shared that information with all of the people present and um they went on their way. And
009then I sat with our architect and our construction manager who were in the room and we just went over the process and talked about what the next steps were. So here we are. This is the next step now that we have a a bidder that is responsible and within our means. We are here for the board to approve to award the contract to Northeastern Interior Services. And with that, I would be happy to answer any questions board members have about the process or about the bid. Any idea how many other jobs they have going at this time or any, you know, close to this size? >> Yeah, I believe that's something that's in the bid. I will have to take a look at that. Uh, let's see if I can find that. The bid is
010462 pages. So, you might want to ask another question while I look. [laughter] >> I'll take if I can find it before we close discussion, I'll let you know. Otherwise, I'll >> Yeah, I Yeah. >> Have we had any previous experience with this particular uh company? >> We have not, but our architect has. And I that was a question that I asked as soon as we finished the bid openings and they had positive things to say about this their working with this company in the past. >> Okay. >> But we don't know the places where they had this experience. That's what you're looking for now, Rich? >> Mhm. >> Well, places of previous experience, but also current ongoing jobs, right? >> Um, while you're looking, um, will it be shared with the public, the spaces
011that are going to be impacted? >> Yeah, I mean, we we can certainly share, you know, the the project is very public, so we can certainly share that. We've had um internal conversations with uh Mr. Tenant and Miss Moody who have been very involved in the design process and the conversations about that. We have notified folks about which spaces will be affected by the project. Um I've sent internal emails as well. So um yeah, we're happy to publish kind of um you know preliminary documents and things like that on the website for everyone. Um do we expect uh many of our teachers or students to be displaced? >> So the way the project is designed there are no classrooms that are um displaced. So no no classes of students are are going to have to
012move out of their locations. That was a very significant aspect of the design conversations. Um we the original design for the project was supposed to be over uh we would call it sort of the kindergarten wing. So when you're looking at Faber all the way to the left corner >> um where the central office is and that was going to expand towards the front of the building. >> The the project was submitted with that cost estimate and Rich do you remember what that cost estimate was and what the what the actual state aid is? >> I'm sorry. The original the original project submission >> original original projects uh was 6026 it was just over six million. >> Okay. And the DOE is paying for it 3.6 million or so. So we moved the project from
013there because there was an issue found with the way that the central office addition had been constructed um which was not foreseen at the time that the project was submitted. >> Yes. So, um, we spent probably six months or so putting the project in different areas on different parts of the roof and seeing what it would look like and what would be affected by it. Um, obviously the the north side of the building that faces the staff parking lot um is a would be a pretty normal sensible place to put it because there's already kind of a a hallway there. But in order for that to have occurred, we would have had to displace all of the classrooms downstairs. And so, um, the decision was made to, um, find a way to nestle the project,
014um, above and next to the APR. Um, so there's seven classrooms upstairs and there's one classroom downstairs. We had to build space for, uh, egress and also elevator. Um, and so there there are a couple, you know, stairwells and things like that, all of which were were required. So there are offices and one storage room that are going to be affected. Um the APR is going to be affected and so we're going to have to figure out um students uh eating lunch in the classroom and also food delivery to the classroom. Uh but no classes are going to be affected. We are not using any temporary classroom units. Um all of the classrooms themselves are are going to be fine. Uh which is great. >> So go ahead. Um, yeah, I'm almost done. No. >>
015Um, you said that nothing would, it's the allpurpose room, but there are classrooms next to that. How can we be sure that our children and teachers won't be adversely affected by construction debris and dust and so the construction is not taking place above any of the classrooms. So the area that construction is taking place will be you know sealed off so that there's not an overflow of construction debris material etc. Um and there is there are no classrooms that are adjacent to the APR. The APR is there and then there's the exit um to the north side parking lot and then there's a wall and then there are classrooms past that. So basically the perimeter of the project stops at the the sort of entryway there. Um it doesn't go down the hallway if you
016know Faber well doesn't go down that hallway where the classrooms actually are. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Couple more. >> Please. >> Um you said that they're going to be eating in their classrooms. So, does that mean we'll have to hire people because right now we have just a few people that oversee a group of students in the cafeteria or will there have to be schedule changes or something? >> We're Yeah, we'll have to figure that out once we start. I mean, we do have a we have we employ a number of actually our own staff, custodial staff members or others who work not in their custodial shift in the cafeteria as aids or support. We also have other community members who who we've hired for that role. >> So, we're going to be working
017very closely with Matios and with our staff to ensure that me meals can be delivered and and uh rooms can be cleaned up appropriately. I think this next question will be a big concern to the public as I remember picking up and dropping off at Favor in the morning and uh not so much in the afternoon but in the morning it's it was crazy. How do you think this will impact uh like traffic safety um with heavy equipment nearby and backing up? Has a plan been made for that as well? >> Yeah, I I don't see this as a safety issue. I see it more as a parking issue. Um there there will be So, if the project had been done on the in the original way, we probably would have had to get rid
018of the um playground and there would have been a staging area that was set up there. >> Because the project is now on the other side when you're facing the building to the right, which is the north side of the building, there's going to have to be some staging that's set up there. And the appropriate precautions will be taken to ensure that, you know, the u construction vans and uh uh materials and things like that are are not hazardous. But it will probably affect parking in the short term for um you know for staff. Yeah, >> that's my last question. Uh thinking about our teachers, um there's limited parking already and really no place else. Are they just going to have to park in the in the neighborhoods and yeah, I mean, we're we're going
019to have to see. We don't know exactly what the footprint will be. So, we don't know how many spaces will be affected. We don't know for how long. We don't know exactly what machinery will be on site at all times. So that's going to be a consideration. Obviously, we know that, you know, the the drop off procedures at Faber are a thousand% better than they ever were in the past. So that's not an issue. Um parking is is significant though. And so we we're aware that, you know, parking is limited. And you know, we we can also make adjustments to um you know, some of the public spaces in front of the building or other types of things if we need to. Um you know, but we'll that's going to be something that we're going
020to have to sort of figure out as we go. >> Thank you. Absolutely. >> Um I think I have an answer for Mr. Walker's question. I have an answer and I have what I think is a relevant piece of information, but perhaps you can enlighten me on what this document means. Give me one second. Oh, went too far. So, first of all, the qu the answer to the question of how much work they have outstanding, it's $13.2 million of outstanding work. Now, there's a document right before that from the division of property management and construction and it says you are hereby notified of your classification to do state work for the department as previously noted. Uh, and it has an aggregate amount of 60 million. Is that the state saying this is what we think
021you can handle? >> Right. So if they're at 13 million and they're adding us at another 6 million, seven. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> How is that in relation to other companies? Just trying to get a sense of where that number is relative to others. >> That's pretty low. Now keep in mind too October comes. >> So one other question I had was so the allpurpose room will be impacted but the kitchens kitchen will still be operational. Yeah, we're going to have to see exactly what is affected. I mean, we've we've gone last year, two years ago, we went without uh cooking area in the middle school. Um, we've had, you know, times when there were no freezers or we used trucks to transport things. We've done this before. Denell's a small town. You know,
022if we need to um be cooking here and um driving over there, um we can certainly do that. Um but that's uh you know that's something that we're not exactly going to know until again until the work starts and I think you know there's going to be a meeting mid November which will be the um initial kickoff meeting and I think there's going to be a much better sense of what the timelines are and what the specific impacts are and I'll definitely provide an update every board meeting about where we are with the project and what we're seeing. So one other uh follow-up question you mentioned about impact. So will afterare be impacted? >> The entrance to afterare is going to have to change. >> Yeah. >> Afterare itself is is is will will not
023be changed. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> It's just it'll just look different. >> Yep. Okay. >> Yeah. There are a lot of things that will look different. Um which is okay. Um but we're going to plan accordingly, you know, with uh the student safety as the primary concern. Um and then kind of the comfort and uh routine part of it as a second you know secondary concern which obviously we'll we'll take very seriously as well. So in terms of um noise, I know that you know classrooms are not having to be moved or limited but in terms of the noise factor for kids where you know our big focus is education and making sure they can learn properly. >> How is that anticipated to be managed? >> There won't be no noise. So, uh, not
024doing construction right above the classrooms is going to help tremendously and we're going to, you know, we're going to manage the best that we can to do really significant heavy noise work um at times when students aren't there. Um there will be times when you know noise will occur and you know we went through that with the preschool project um where you know there there was the back the back wall of the building where uh prior to preschool the back wall um there are some classrooms on that on that wall and you know there was there was a pretty big effect to some of those classrooms because this because the construction was occurring right outside that room. This is all a little bit removed from the classrooms. Um, but you know, they they will hear
025drilling and they will hear construction and some of that is going to occur and we're going to have to just do the best that we can with it. Um, you know, doors are always closed, windows are generally always closed, you know, for in the building um for safety and security and, you know, the efficiency of the HVAC system. So, um, but you know, we're going to have a better sense again after we meet mid- November about what the when the most significant parts of this project from a construction and noise perspective will occur. And, you know, the these folks know that they're working in a school and they know that um that kids are there and that their parents there and that there are staff there. So, I'm sure they've they've got a sense of
026general general precautions as well. We then have the summer and a lot of the work the construction work will occur during the summer as well. So, you know, keeping in mind that this is late October, we have a construction meeting mid- November. Then everything has to be ordered and then everything has to be staged and planned. We're probably not talking until late winter even starting anything. Um, which gives us time to work internally. Um, and then also means that the actual impact will be the spring pretty much. Um and then as much you know foundational structural structural work as can be completed during the summer you know will be and that'll be a pretty significant time for us >> to just jump off of um kind of question in terms of food services. So they
027cook here and at the high school >> now they do. Yeah. >> So can the kitchens handle being able to then support in terms of I know there's a lot of rules when it comes to temperature management and things like that. Will they be able to handle that capacity of favor that's a much larger student population? >> Yeah, I don't know exactly. Uh, you know, I I I know that we've had the conversation about whether we thought that food services was going to be a concern. Um, and after reviewing it and discussing it with Matios, the the the determination was that it wasn't. Um, I can't say exactly what the plan's going to be for, you know, for the spring. If the kitchen is closed, what that looks like, how long it will be closed
028for, what exactly would be affected, and when it would be affected, but we'll know that well in advance of of any actual changes occurring, and then we'll be able to plan for it accordingly. We've got a we we we have a good um we have a a healthy surplus in our cafeteria services account as well. So if we need to add folks to make more meals or if we need different types of distribution models, we certainly have the capacity to do that within the um enterprise account that we have. >> Yep. >> Are we using a construction management company again? Is Greyhawk going to be on top? >> So we are going to use um Greyhawk. Uh and the question of how much we will use them is one that we haven't finalized yet. I
029think is fair to say we've we uh we appreciate the work Rob Dynan um who we worked with really as as a lead when we were going through the last round of of uh the 2019 projects and the preschool project. Um Rob's been great and Greyhawk's been super helpful. We also have a very different uh facilities director at the at at the current moment than we did when those projects were done. Um and uh Ronnie who is is here with us and thank you Ronnie for being here. Um obviously knows this project um inside and out. He knows the bidspecs inside and out. Um we will definitely use Greyhawk but it won't be a you know a full-time kind of thing where like we were you know like as we have paid them in the
030past sort of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars or something like that. >> Yeah. >> Because it's up front not like trying to fix something that was broken. >> Right. Exactly. I mean, Greyhawk, the the purpose of our our bringing on Greyhawk uh when we did was because there was a lot of investigatory work that needed to be done >> and then a lot of fixing, right? And I think we all know, we all recognize that if you do something right the first time, um >> it's actually much more efficient uh time-wise than also costwise. Yeah. >> And so that's uh that's where you know Ronnie and and our our custodial supervisors and and the folks on the district team will be very involved at that level. >> Is there CA work factored into
031land's contract as well? >> Yes, there is. >> Do you know who the CA is going to be from? >> I don't know yet. >> CA is construction administration. Just so everyone knows, construction management and construction administration are slightly different. Um, you can correct my definitions if I get them a little bit wrong or if there's more to it. Construction administration is a service of the architect, the architectural firm where they basically just sort of monitor the general progress of the plan uh as as it's being implemented. construction management is a much more uh deliberate specific um set of things that they're looking at really um digging into the the the weeds of the materials and the specific work and things like that. It's a much more involved process. Mhm. >> So um you know
032under the previous projects we had construction administration embedded in those those projects and um I think we recognize that uh that leaves something to be desired uh overall and so we will still be employing some construction management outside of the architect services. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Do we know when the allpurpose room was built >> off the top? Someone does >> like >> so do we do we need to be worried about >> what is it called? >> Asbestous. >> Yes. >> Yeah. We have a plan for asbestous remediation and the way that the the tiles and things like that. We've we've looked at all that. >> Yeah. Yeah. [snorts] >> That work couldn't be done when the kids were in school, right? >> There are different levels Yeah. There are different
033levels of um of asbestous concern or uh danger or whatever it is. There are certain types of asbesus remediation where the entire site has to be u evacuated and then there are certain types of asbesus remediation that can be just closed off locally and then remediated and then sort of move from there. So that that's all that's all been worked into the project plan. >> Absolutely. Yeah, >> absolutely. >> So, piggybacking on that and also Alisa's question about noise, will there be systems or plans or something to be able to monitor um from a public health perspective safety? I mean, noise is one aspect, but like if there particulates in the air, I know you mentioned sealing it off, but will there be like a a way to monitor how that is and to make
034sure that that's that's that it is a safe environment to be in? I mean, yeah. So, all of our classrooms have air purifiers, which I which are sort of a COVID product. Um, you know, I think we I think there would have to be something really wrong if we were getting significant amounts of uh airrated debris sort of coursing through the hallways. So, I I think this is going to be something that we'll monitor locally. Um, and you know, we have the ability to take those readings as well. And I'm sure that that that uh the architect wouldn't want or the construction uh firm would not want those types of things to happen. Okay. So, absolutely. Anyone else questions? This is the most I've spoken about construction publicly, I think, ever. So, bring it on.
035Keep going. >> Now, I appreciate all of your questions. I appreciate you look really taking this seriously. This is going to be a a really massive significant undertaking. Um you know the preschool project was built off of the back of the building. Um there was a massive amount of square footage um on that project and you know the whole the whole drill with skylights and things like that. Um we only got four classrooms out of that. This is adding eight classrooms uh 950 foot classrooms with um with toilets in them um you know toilet rooms embedded in them. And um it really does present really significant opportunities for um preschool classrooms to be brought back to the district. Also um special education classrooms to be brought back to the district if we if we feel
036that that's appropriate. Um and other opportunities as well. So it's a it's going to be a a heavy lift and certainly we know that it that it will be. Um but I think we're going in eyes wide open and we have a good sense from the team about exactly what it's going to take to be successful. with the addition of that many square feet of classroom or are we adding another custodian? >> We have talked about it. We actually are we're in the conversations about uh whether custodial and maintenance uh FTEES are at the right numbers um especially because right now our uh our full-time maintenance person is out on um paternity leave and that's been a a challenge. So, we're reviewing custodial square footage um for current and um and future as well as
037maintenance um uh staffing. >> Yeah, that one's timeconuming. 8,000 square foot classrooms all with bathrooms in on that. >> Absolutely. >> A few hours worth of >> Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. So, another question. So, looking at the agenda, the proposed number was what? Six 6.3 6.4 right? the original was >> or what's in the what's in the resolution? >> Yes. 6.37 million 370. >> So with um with with DOE kicking in uh 36, does that leave us with about 2728 coming out of our funds? And then if there's any more that has to happen because of things unforeseen. Yeah. What's the Rich? What's the allowance for the project or that the allowance is built in? >> The the built-in allowance for this project is $250,000. So the first $250,000 in change orders will not change the
038balance. >> Okay. >> Yeah. That's built into the cost of the project. >> There there are additional costs that will come across like the construction management cost is not part of the bid, right? So we have to pay >> Greyhawk separately. >> Okay. >> There are there are unforeseen unforeseeable costs that I'm sure that that we will acrewue. Um, but in the discussion about this project, we had a we had a sort of a an an upper threshold of what might be an appropriate bid amount. Um, and we're well under it at this point. So, um, I think we're comfortable that the existing reserve accounts um, and the way that this year's budgeting and future budgeting is projected um, will be in in good shape. Okay. >> If there is any abatement to take place,
039is that part of the contract scope for Nor Eastern or is that our ours to bear? Sorry. Yeah, >> that's a good question. So, uh the question is whether abatement is factored into the cost of the exist the contract. >> So, right, we've already had um >> we've already done with environmental connection the abatement review. So, we kind of know where we stand. >> There is some of the work that needs to be done as part of the project. There probably will be additional that we'll have to do outside of that. Okay, thank you all. Um, yeah, like I said, we will continue to provide updates. I will continue to provide updates every month on how we're going and obviously we'll talk about it in the operations committee. Uh, any of the documents that we
040can make public, but uh we can certainly make those public, we'll we'll create a new page on the um on the district website where we can provide updates to the public and uh we'll go from there. Thank you. Just gonna see is there any way we can like you know make a nice um promotional for the trades while we're doing this. Okay guys, we have the um um we have an open motion. We have a first and a second. Any other last questions, comments before we go ahead and move forward with a vote. Last call. >> All right, let's do it. Mr. Pepe, can you please call the role? >> Mr. Anderson, >> yes. >> Mrs. Condit, >> yes. >> Miss, sorry, Miss here. Dr. Gendrono, >> yes. >> Mrs. Howard, >> yes. >> Mr.
041Sanoi, >> yes. >> Miss Shimp, >> yes. >> Mrs. Shep, >> yes. >> Mr. Walker, >> yes. Motion passes. >> Okay. Woohoo. We just did it. All right. Moving on to uh item number eight, executive session. We're not going there tonight. So, moving on. I don't think we need one. And moving on to item number nine, old business. Anyone would like to bring up old business? Um okay. Uh number 10. Anyone want to bring up new business? Just briefly, um, for for the November board meeting, um, we're going to have a slightly different look for the agenda. >> Um, we've talked about the number of, uh, motion, second, discussion, starts, and stops we have in the current agenda. So, we're going to be moving everything to kind of discussion, a discussion section, and then an
042action section, um, which is still in in uh, in accordance with our bylaw. So I will when you see the agenda in no for the November meeting um and actually we have a draft already of the October meeting put together we can discuss this in um I'll share it in the committees and then um you'll see it in November but essentially it takes the um committee reports it puts those together so the committee uh chairs will give their reports and then we have the action section they're still broken up by section so let's say section whatever 8A is personnel um it'll will still be itemized exactly the same way. Um but there will just be one motion for all of the action items. One second and then uh discussion. >> So the intent I think
043is to improve flow. So you know we'll give it a go in November and see how we like it. >> It will be all the action items for all the committees in one spot. >> Yes. One after the other section by section. Isn't it more likely for things to get lost if we wanted to discuss certain things that way? >> They'll still be they'll still be separated by it'll still say personnel. Like A would be personnel. It' be like item seven. A is personnel. Then all the personnel items, B operations or whatever, C uh education. It also allows D to be uh policies and regulations, right? >> Rather than topics for board as a whole. Um, so, uh, you know, the the the bylaw, uh, requires obviously the public comments, new old business, um, the
044pledge, all of those things. Um, this is going to be, you know, I think a way to streamline the action items. But, um, you know, we can we'll try it out and see how people feel about it. If we want to make adjustments, certainly welcome to do that as well. and the executive sessions are still where they are pretty much more or less. Yeah. All right. Any other new business? Since uh since we're here, um we'll probably not have as much time in November. Just to say, you know, I think we had a really great time at the New Jersey school boards. We learned a lot. I'm not sure if anyone who attended wanted to say a few words about their experience. We don't have to go too deep into it, but just figured since
045November is going to be busy, we maybe have a few minutes to just talk about I thought it was very rewarding. I went to a number of sessions and um yeah, there was some really great things that I'm looking forward to talking about with you guys uh down the way. And well, anyway, so I don't know, Miss Condid, Mr. Sanoi, Shrimp, Mr. Pepe, >> anything you you guys want to comment on? >> Happy 250th birthday, United States Marine Corps. 10 November. [laughter] So, okay. Well, I know there was a bit of a surprise, so we can always do it another time, but I don't want to belabor the issue. Let's, uh, go ahead and move on to, unless there's anything else you'all want to talk about, we can move on to German. >> All right,
046let's go. Um, motion to adjurnn, please. >> Move to adjurnn. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I >> I >> opposed. >> All righty then. So, we will see you at the November 18th. >> 18th uh board meeting 700 p.m. right here.