001Testing. Testing. 1 2 3. Interesting. Uh, good evening. We are here today to attend our committee as a whole meeting for Creekmon 2011U. Today is Tuesday, March the 10th, 2026. is 6:30 p.m. 18:30 military time. Calling this meeting to order. Can I have a roll call, please? Madam Secretary, >> Mr. Brown >> here. >> Mr. Gyos >> here. >> Zit Stumbris is here. Dr. Hall >> here. >> Mr. Salish >> here. Miss Venegas, Miss Wolf >> here. Okay. All right. I would like us to stand, please, for the pledge of allegiance led by Bill and our mission statement read by Dr. Hall. Igian flag United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> And our mission statement, engage and empower
002our students to positively impact their community and future. I thank you both for reading the mission statement and guiding us to the pledge of allegiance. Do we have any electronic or any public comments? >> Jamie? No. >> No. >> Okay. I got to watch out. I say these jamies around here. Okay. All right. Do we have any board updates? >> Yeah. I think last week, Mr. Brown. I I saw you and Janine at the uh Black History Month program that we put on. Um I think the kids did an outstanding job and even before it went on, they did all their um and we voted on all of their projects. So that was really cool. And everybody had a different take on that. And the one I voted for was the I student that talked
003about all the different foods. M. >> So, it was really cool on everybody's perspective and how they view it. >> Yeah. >> And then when we got done with that, then we went in the auditorium and >> whether and and I've said this before, if you haven't heard our jazz band, I couldn't be more proud as a board member to just go hear them. >> The kids are amazing. Um, a choir, show choir, uh, theater. Um, there was a group doing a fashion show. It was really outstanding for the kids. I mean, they did the students did a great job and the directors and everybody that you know that put the effort in putting that on. >> Yes, >> agree. >> Yeah, >> it was nice. >> I echo that, Bill. It was a extraordinary
004event. I didn't know what to expect. I came straight from the trenches to the event. Uh, I wasn't slacking for having any mud on my clothes and boots and all of that. So, I would like to say this because I didn't see Jamie, but I know she was there to see her son with those two solos. >> I couldn't make it. I'm sorry. >> I hear he was pretty good though. Thanks. >> He was You heard Bill say extraordinary. >> They were They were great. I mean, this is the third year I think we're doing that. And it's the third year I went and I'm telling you, if you haven't gone, just to see how awesome our kids are and that it's a good time, man. >> It it was it was great. Uh the
005acting, the >> the whole nine yards. They just kept >> throwing different type of events and all of that, but >> it it turned out to be really well. and I was trying to leave every five minutes but I could not and I stayed there to the end and and it was great. Any other updates? >> I have something to share. um just from the education foundation. Um we meet about once a month and so we are winding down this year and I did share that I would ask the board when they could be on the agenda if this is appropriate at this time. Do I ask that or do they need to come ask that? But looking to see if they could do a year in review at our April 14th meeting. >> Yeah,
006you can talk to Dr. cogn myself and we can put it on the agenda. >> Okay. >> I thought you was going to ask me for that donation I've been promising you for six months, but I want to tell you >> Thank you for the reminder and it's officially on the record. >> Okay. And I I I promise you it's a little interest every month compound. Okay. >> Nice. 26%. >> No, I didn't say that. All right. And I want to say a couple of administrators attended the military ball which was great. Which was great. And I must say I did get on the dance floor ever so slightly, but I did. I touched it. But it was great. Dr. Coglin, Dr. Perkins was there, a couple other administrators were there, principal, but it was
007great. The food was delicious. necessarily. >> Yeah, usually you my partner in crime there. >> That's all right. We got one more next year. All right. So, that was great. Good job for all who put that together. I think this is it Chief Reed or Officer Reed. >> Poor Reed. Yeah, we had a uh presentation for him since this is his retirement year. So, you presented him with the plaque. >> Yes. Yes, we have um all we have two positions that are already filled. So, we're going to continue moving on and it's continuing to be successful. >> Okay, great. All right, moving on. Have administrative updates. Dr. Cogen is on you. >> All right. I just have two items. Uh today, next Tuesday, I've got a couple short videos to show to highlight, but I'll
008leave those for next week. But next t Monday. Yes, Monday. Um, so we do have our smart lab ribbon cutting. It's on March 19th at the Cree um, Creek and Mon Elementary School. So, we're really excited about that. Um, and then also on Saturday, it was a busy day. I was able to participate in the University Park Village. They invited me to come in and be on a panel with five other um, amazing women for the women's leadership conference. And that was at the um the golf course over there. And like I said, they uh they did a magnificent job. Kevin Battles kind of organized that. So um the golf course, they've done a really good job. They've got a new chef over there now. The food was amazing. So I certainly give a shout
009out to them and all their good work. Um so we're going to see if we could organize an event there at some point in the near future to help support our village and that good work. But anyway, that was an exciting day uh to do that. And uh we'll have a video of that day as well to share with you. That's all I've got. >> Okay. Thank you. So the salad the salad was good. That's pretty much all you eat. >> No, I I >> You cheated. You cheated a little bit. Okay. All righty. Okay. Business. We got Jason up. >> What's his show today? Get those expectations. >> Good evening, President Brown, distinguished members of the board of education, Dr. Cara Kaganise. Um, actually, I'm going to go in order the agenda. This is
010item B under business. Uh first we need to discuss uh it's that time of the year where we uh went out to bid for our landscaping and lawn care services throughout the district. So the bid opening was held today on March 10th at 1:30 p.m. We had three companies bid on the project uh to provide landscaping and lawn care services for two years with the option of a third year. Um, bid results are in. They range from $16,875 per month to $18,500 per month. And considering we did have one of the biders is our current provider. And uh, Mr. McClean is in the process of checking references and just verifying everything else that encapsulates the bid. and I'll be able to give you guys an uh update in the FYI and then we'll look to
011take action on awarding those bid uh results to a company uh next meeting on March 16th. >> So you say our current vendor or contractor that we have when does that contract expired? >> Um that contract actually expired in the end of November of 2025. So, we're looking to procure this company to service us through April um of 2026 because when we prepare the bid scopes, it's April through the conclusion of November. Are we going to lose any ground? Because I believe we off we have that vendor perform some type of pre-emergent treatment, fertilizing, things of like that. >> It's all the same. Yeah, we we still have >> we got time to do that though. >> Okay. So, we start that in April >> and weitting >> weather permitting and we do a cut
012per month. >> Uh it's actually once a week, correct? >> Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. Once once a week. Did was there any additional moing given that we have the you know the football field out there, practice field and all of that that they uh the contract didn't include additional moing from last year? >> No, I think we seen a reduction in correct Keith or square acre reduction. Yeah, >> just a slight reduction in our total area. And Keith also placed in uh the bid specs to uh receive a credit for the areas near the sports plex that are still in u m maturation phase that aren't fully um grass right now. They're still seed and straw. So, we'll receive a credit till that area or those areas are um ready to be taken care of
013like the rest of the grounds on the district. >> Okay. And that's from April to November. >> Our annual service agreement goes from April to November. Obviously, if we need to start earlier, generally we can. Correct, Keith? Or >> later >> or run later if if it's a mild. >> So that's 7 months, 16,000 low, 18,000 high. Seven months of what? 100 to two for 100 roughly 120,000 130,000 a year. roughly. Yep. >> Is that kind of what we budgeted for? >> Yeah, about that. >> I know we've had the same provider for what, three years now? >> I think >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. Two two contracts. >> Yep. >> Okay. And you are not at liberty until you issued a contract. If our current vendor was the lowest bidder, you're not at liberty
014to say that. Was it It was a It was a seal bid and they were here today. All three vendors. Yes. All three vendors submitted seal bids. >> Seal bid open up the bid and they knew at that point who was the lowest bidder at that point and that was all the information they received today. Right. >> Correct. Um considering that there's new companies um you know Keith has to do his due diligence, check references and things along those lines. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Moving on to agenda item B. I'm here to provide you with an update on the short-term facility plan from 2024 to 2026. Um, as you guys know, this plan's been going on for 3 years. um covered uh the remaining work at uh four of
015our elementary schools in addition to the ELC uh roof replacement at Creek Elementary um Sportslex and what we have currently going on right now the project for additional classrooms at the middle school. So, um, as you guys can see where we remain with all of our projects, and I can get to these, uh, buildings individually, but, um, we currently have still a small amount that is left from the Tilala and ELC project of summer 2024. Um, Keith, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm understanding that we're just having some pro electrical light programming issues with those. That's where we're at with that. So that's uh relatively small roughly $60ome,000 for those two projects. And then we have uh the middle school and the high school. Um I do want to speak to you guys and
016once I get to the buildings I can get more specific about those, but there is an addition uh project for this summer at the high school. And I can also talk to you about the possibility of uh item number uh the third item on the agenda tonight um possibly redoing some flooring and the middle school classroom. So um with that being said, total outstanding projects we have, including contingency, is just over $6.6 million. Okay, elementary schools. I can roll through these really quick because nothing has happened in the summer of 2026 at any of these buildings. Um, turn your attention here to the middle school. Uh, we're doing very well with the project at the middle school in terms of the interior construction. We'll be opening up the exterior wall for the two additional classrooms
017over spring break, weather permitted. Um, as you guys have been updated with the photos in the weekly FYI, interior classrooms are fully drywall, taped, sanded. Um, and then we'll be looking to paint once we take care of some of the electric uh mechanical and electrical equipment in the ceilings. Okay. We do have a cont uh an amount in here that's been in here since the previous presentation for uh classroom furniture for the additional four classrooms along with the four small group spaces that we created and the two teacher workrooms which will be done in the rotunda areas of the 2015 edition this summer. We have a design fee and then also a contingency amount of $380,000 and five $385 $380,584, excuse me. Okay. So, this leads me to the point to speak about replacing the
018flooring at the middle school and the original portion of the middle school, the 9205 edition. Those classrooms still have carpet in them. Each year when we do our summer cleaning, um, we run into issues with the carpet, uh, through the moisture being on the concrete. Um, it causes the carpet to buckle. So, what we did is we went out to got a bid to replace the classrooms with carpet. Also, any classrooms, specifically science classrooms that have the original tile in the 92 2015 edition. And then um two summers ago, we replaced the carpet in the hallway the uh hallway floors um for majority of the building with the exception of the hallway right outside the main gym. So those are the three areas that we looked to um get bids on. That was the scope
019of the project and um bid results came in lower than the contingency amount of $380,000. Um, in fact, the bid results, well, um, I got that as another item item. Do you guys want me to talk about that right now while we're still in this presentation? I think it might flow a little bit better. >> You could. Yep. >> Yeah. One was 320, one was >> Yeah. So, um, we we received, you know, the way Keith wrote up the bid specs, we did receive, uh, four different bids from four vendors. So, everyone that bid actually um was the low bidder for one portion of the project. Just depending upon which way we want to take. Um my personal preference is to replace the tile in the hallway with Texas granite. That's what we've put in
020our elementary schools. That's what we put in the hallways at the middle school two summers ago. Um, then we have another product, uh, Tarquette flooring tile that we're putting in the seven classrooms that we're adding. We can go ahead and use that product in the other classrooms along with the science classroom. So, um, that bid came in at 364,000. Um, sorry, excuse me one second. Yeah, that's why I I was a little confused on that, you know, when I saw the bids and >> the lowest bidder was not selected. But you saying there's a split difference here on them. >> Just the difference in the materials and what rooms we're doing. >> Are you going to use them both? >> Uh yeah, we'll use Texas granite in the hallway and then we'll go with Tarquette
021uh tile in the classrooms, including the science classroom. >> Tarquet was 364. Uh that's the product we're using that actually the company that had 364 was Douglas Flooring Covering. Yep. And that'd be my recommendation to go with them. Um and also put in the B board report not represented in this slide. Um in the base price for the project, we had a 5% design contingency. We also had a few allowances for data cabling um and uh a winter weather allowance that we didn't use. I doubt we used the data um allowance fully. So in total there was also an additional Wait for it one second. I think it was I'm still a little confused on it. Jason, you said we had a $380,000 budget, right? >> We had a a $380,000 contingency here. That's 10%
022of the total project. Inside these base prices was also some allowances. >> So total we're looking to expand on the flooring at the middle school. >> 364,000. So it fits within our contingency 380. >> Not a lot of wiggle room there. What I'm communicating and being transparent is the fact that inside these prices up here, we actually have about $270,000 of allowance. So, it's an additional buff. >> Okay. So, the so the bidder they bid at $320,000. That person that company's not getting anything. >> No, because they were um there was the lowest bid was $34,000. Okay. That did not include replacing the tile in the science classroom. So, this way the 364 were consistent with all the classrooms in the non205 edition. So, everybody was offered the same specs and all of that to
023bid. That company did not bid on that component. >> They did. They just weren't the lowest. Everybody bid on >> Okay. I didn't see it. Okay. Okay. Cool. >> You're good. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. Believe me, it took me a little time to wrap my head around it, too, when when Keith explained it to me, but I made sure to have a good understanding of it. Well, I mean, I think I'm doing a pretty good job here trying to communicate that to you because I'm just saying if it was presented to me five minutes ago, I'd be in the same position you were, President Brown. >> No, you're doing well. Good job. >> So, uh needless to say, uh we do have the option to replace the flooring in the classrooms and the corridors at
024the middle school and it can fit within the contingency that you guys see right now. That's it in a nutshell. And you're going to be bringing this to the board for an action item next week? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Okay. >> And just to clarify that the contingencies only on the middle school project, right? >> Yes, sir. >> So, meaning the the total 380 plus the additional 270 is in different items throughout just this project. >> Yes, sir. So he he's essentially reusing money that's left over from what we allocated for it still for the same school to maintain consistency >> and this is not increasing our overall budget and anything. >> No sir. >> Okay. Thank you. Um next uh we've been working with the capital project subcommittee and I'd like to thank
025uh Dr. Hall for his uh attendance at those meetings. Um we are wrapping up the Sportslex uh project. Um you'll see a pay application not for the entire amount but uh for majority of it as we're at the point right now we're working on punch list items. Uh one two items that have come up uh that we are looking to address is the replacement of the scoreboard at the competition gym at Cremon High School. And also uh this past August I believe we experienced uh some malfunctions with the control board to the lighting and the auditorium. So those two projects you can see listed in the lower right hand corner. um to replace the scoreboard, the high end of um bids we had is 1927 and that'll replace the scoreboard in the main competition at
026CHS. That will also uh make us compliant with IHSA cuz next year they are requiring the use of shot clocks for girls and boys basketball. Um the competition gym scoreboard is also used for volleyball and wrestling too. So um this will bring brand new piece of equipment. It comes with video board capabilities similar to the one that we put in in the sportslex. And then the lowest quote we had to replace the lighting in the auditorium came in at $464,69. Um within those two projects, we're hoping to get those done this summer. Um, but I also did include a 10% contingency in those products there. So, you see a contingency amount of 65,620. >> Is are there any type of to your knowledge incentives any type of incentives when it comes to the lighting? Did
027we did we look at comed to see if there some rebates or anything of that nature? >> Keith will be reaching out to he's got a real good connection with his rep at at Kameed and we can see if we get any rebates for that. Um we definitely look to take advantage of that as we have in the past. Correct. >> Right. Uh it is very limited on an auditorium lighting type project because it's not a fulltime lighting. >> Oh okay. >> But but I do have them looking into that. >> And also any solicitations of grants for this project. >> Um we are working with Miss Pile. She had one local company that might be looking to make a donation. We haven't been able to firm that up. So, we do welcome any money
028out there um that's looking to support the capital needs of the district. >> Okay. >> Um I have a question. >> Yes, sir. >> Um the we know that the wait room needs to be upgraded. We kind of talked about that. And is there any way to get this done like in the summertime? because I don't think everybody understands that and that a lot of the equip or it's not a lot I don't know how much but there's a good number of the amount of the equipment that comes from the old high school and they just been peacememelling stuff together and as I said before it's kind of like we're Rocky and everybody else is Russia Russia so >> um no and and I do have quotes for that um I can work with Mr.
029connect you to see if that equipment can be procured and then work with uh you know the building staff just to see if we can schedule the logistics of it. Um that quote I can provide in the FYI um and and put that in there for everyone if you're interested in addressing the weight room um this summer. Uh high-end we had on that with the addition of equipment and new flooring. So then there could also be some speed and agility work. You know, I know I don't need to tell you. Um, generally they'd be looking to put the equipment on the sides of the walls. That way it still kind of leaves the middle of the floor uh open for some kind of speed and agility training as much as we could fit in the
030weight room considering its size. But um yeah, I can get you guys the firm amount um that we have for the weight room equipment and flooring and I could put that in FYI. Yes, Jamie. it. >> In addition to the lighting there had for the auditorium, there had been concerns with the sound system. Is there any funding in there to replace the sound system? >> Um, if that came from me, I may have misspoke. It it we upgraded the sound system there recently. Correct. Just >> new board in there. Um, it was actually just the lighting. So, I apologize if that came from me. So I think to clarify in that 464 is there sound some is something going to be done with the sound or no because if it's already been done um the
031one thing I didn't mention that we were at last Thursday for the black history the sound was awful. >> It was horrendous. and not once, not twice, but about five times the the the back feed, the the sound. So part of that could be in a redesign because whoever's in there now moved everything in behind the brick walls and you can't if you go to So if you go to any concert, look at where the mixing table's at. at all the show choir competitions I went to, even the one we hosted. Center of the stage, right at the bottom of our bleachers is where they sit. They're in the middle. They're not tucked away behind brick wall because you can't hear anything. So, if we're going to spend this kind of money on lighting and
032and we're going to redo it, I would like to make sure that we do it the right way, right? The lighting and the sound is right. But I'm telling you, if you guys haven't been in there, Janine, you were there. Mr. Brown, you were there. You heard it. >> And as hard as the the director's uh work and the kids students work, it was it was awful. >> Okay. >> So, just if you can look at that. >> Yeah. With your blessing, I'll be glad to look into audio, >> too. That just goes to show you how well our kids played that with the sound being awful, we still they still sound good. They sound they did great job, but as you can see, the engineering part of it was >> not very good. And
033it's not >> it's been going on for a while, but I just assumed at some point we were addressing some of that, but >> we just got to talk about how everything maybe moving some of the stuff and redesigning a little bit of an area and looking at all of it. That's it. I'll be sure to I'll be sure to look into that for you. >> Um, real quick on the on your high school project, you have 1.95 million as a contingency. So, so we're on the same page, the money that we're talking about spending for the lighting in the auditorium and the scoreboard and the main gym and then even the contingency is not extra spending. It's coming out of the money that we're not spending on the original project. Correct. Um well I
034kind of looped it all in together with what you will see the the one coming out of it. So at the end of this presentation um we still do have a surplus that we can put to the side and continue to manage uh additional capital projects that we can't identify as life safety. >> And more or less I was just saying that so people understand that we're not spending more money than we've already borrowed. It's coming out of our existing bonds that we sold. It's coming out of part of the contingency money. >> You are correct. Yes. We're not selling any additional uh the remaining adult uh alternative revenue bonds. >> Right. >> Uh just on that note, and I know you probably told me a hundred times about the $35 million that we approved
035for the al alternate alternative bonds and we used we sold 30 million. Were we ever going to go back and sell those 5 million or we lost the opportunity? No, we we haven't available available until next year. >> The opportunity is available. However, that would impact our operating expenses, which would then in turn impact our financial profile score. So, I think it'd be best, as Mr. Swallace said, not to sell any additional >> uh of the of the bonds and because that way we don't have to worry about it with a increase in our debt payment and that would then eat into our operating expense. But we got until next year to >> Yeah, I believe it's March of 2027 if we would like to. >> And I think the way it worked out with
036the financing that there was even >> Mr. Okisinski had mentioned that we could it was up to six or seven add like it was up a little bit more if we wanted to, but I think when we talked >> Okay. I think you shared that with Bill and I. >> Yes, I did, sir. >> That's what it was. Okay. >> Okay. So, uh, just a reminder of the revenue source for, um, the 2024 to 2026 short-term facility plan. Um, we still do have the bonds that were sold that we keep to help with the, um, uh, fund balance. This goes back prior to my time being here, but that number does continuously go up because we're able to earn um, non-t taxable interest on that. And then you as you can see this was our
037net proceeds the 28 million455283 from our two sales of alternative revenue bonds that we split into split into to avoid arbitrage. The remaining uh balance of those funds is $13 million. And every year we annually apply for the school maintenance project grant. Uh one year uh 2025 uh use that $50,000 for the work at CIT Elementary roof and then 2026 that's going to be used for the additional classrooms at the middle school. >> So we are we we are a recipient of that grant. you're saying already we >> um yeah we pretty much get it every year. Um >> we get it pretty much is by default. >> Well, I mean as long as you file, you know, as long as the work falls within the parameters and you meet the deadline. Um that's one
038thing that is has continued to fund. >> Okay. >> So, in conclusion here, um you guys can see the remaining contract balances at all the buildings in the district. Um, and then what we have here is a surplus of $7,375,000 when we close out this project. So, uh, the plan is to close this project out, and then we will go ahead and prioritize anything else, um, the district needs, meet with the capital project sump committee, and then balance that out, uh, along with the needs of the district. >> And, and that money can only be spent on specific things. It's not just it's got to be what was earmarked for, what we borrowed the bonds for, >> within the within the structure of the sale of the bonds, which was pretty general. Just so that
039people don't think that that's just we can do whatever we have to stay within the parameters of the bond. >> Yes, sir. Okay. All right. Well, thank you very much. Um, going back to the agenda, that actually knocks out items two and three unless we want to have any further discussions on the flooring at the middle school. Thank you. And the last agenda item is, forgive me, I got a lot of paperwork here, but I don't have a copy of the agenda. Um, >> yep. Uh, the we're getting to the point where we are approaching the 2025 levy calculations. Uh, I've been in touch with the Will County Clerk's Office and the district is does have the possibility to adjust the 2025 levy in the amount of $53,448. Uh, if we wish to abate that,
040uh, that's like a one-time relief to taxpayers that will not impact our levy amount going forward year after year. So, um, considering that we did receive $639,000 from the village of Mon, um, for the, uh, close out as a surplus for TIFF 3, just throwing it out, there's a possibility if you guys are interested in abating the levy adjustment. That's another item that we look to take action on March 16th because the levy calculation needs to be signed and returned to the county clerk's office by the beginning of April. Now, we've done that in the past. >> Yeah, we've done it for several years, but not last year. >> We didn't do it last year >> because of how things are pretty tight here. And as much as I would like to abate this to
041show our taxpayers that, you know, we we care about them as well, we kind of walking on thin ice on some things here. So, I would, me personally, I would recommend that we don't abate that 500, $600,000, whatever that is. That's me. I hear the rest of the board. >> For the novice of us that are in the room, can you give us the fifth grade explanation when we say, "Do we want to abate?" What does the question mean? >> Yeah. So, basically, um, you know, we have our annual levy that's primarily funded by all of our taxpayers within the district. Um the levy adjustment is uh allows the district to be made whole um based on the outcome. And I'm so glad I got Bill here. Uh I know you if I rely on
042John on this one, but um any property tax appeal boards that the district loses, the county allows you to make an adjustment to make up for those funds from people that have the means to appeal their property taxes. So, um, this is an annual process as, as President Brown stated, uh, we did not abate, uh, last year's levy, and like I said, it will not affect our levy going forward. It's not part of our base levy. It's just a one-time levy to make up for any losses that the district faced from property tax object object. >> I think it might average out to, I don't know, 20 bucks per family or something like that. I'm just throwing a number out there, but it's a very relatively small number, but any number is important. Any dollar
043the taxpayers could be relieved of is important, but I'm just looking holistically at the district and what we have seen forecast over the next couple years that I think it's best that we we hold on to that. That's me again. So, we can give it out, distribute it out equally to the taxpayers. I don't know if it's equally or more equitable or we hold on to it that four, five, $600,000 and we keep it for the expenditures because I don't think things is going to get better for us revenue-wise over the next couple years. I don't think so. I I don't see that happening. New construction, we don't have any tiff expiring. Uh we probably I don't know if we at the point that we aren't losing federal money right now. Are we at that
044point now? >> Yeah, Dr. Berkins can help out with that. We have seen a significant reduction >> federal money now. >> We're waiting to hear um but um it's possible that we could but we're waiting to hear if there's going to be a reduction or not. >> Okay. So again, how soon do we have to make that decision? you make that decision to be voted on next month or >> no next it would need to be >> we need to take action on it on the 16th. Yeah. >> Okay. So again that's that's my spill on it. Take a consensus. I don't know how the board members again there's no voting tonight but a consensus how you guys feel about it >> if we move forward. >> Yeah. Bring it as a action. Hey, I
045pay almost $15,000 a year in property taxes. I would love to get 10 more dollars or $20. I mean, every little bit help, but I'm looking again holistically at the district. >> So, that's why I put it on the agenda just for discussion tonight. Um, if you guys got any other additional questions, um, um, you know, we no problem to have the resolution prepared and have it ready for next week and then you guys can discuss next week and take action on it. >> Yeah, I guess again bring it for action and the board could decide, they can think about it within the next week and and vote. If you have any questions about again what this means, shoot it to Jason or give me a call or superintendent or Bill. I'll be happy to
046answer any questions for you. >> To put in perspective, because maybe not everybody understands the value or the the amount of that, can you just put in the FYI so every so we can all see it. How much total in in tax money do we take in? Meaning, do we take in 52 million, 28 million, whatever the number is, so that they can take the 53,000 divided by that and figure out that it's a small amount, but it's in times that were better. It was a good gesture. >> Understanding Mr. Brown's point, but at least so that every the seven of us can look at that 503 compared to what we take in >> because it's a very small amount. Yeah, I can actually have that. Um, I'll probably email it to everybody tomorrow just
047for the fact that we have to prepare the agenda, but um I will have to go off of last year's levy non bond and interest just because of the fact in my communication with uh the county clerk's office they're hoping to have the calculation sheets out by the 16th, but they can't make any guarant. >> In retrospect, if we take in $40 million in tax revenue, right? I mean, just ballpark, it's 500,000. >> Yeah. small number. If we take 50 million, it's 1%. >> So, uh you you got to look at it in that perspective that the money that we would be abating is really small in retrospect to the total number. I mean, our budget's over 100 million. >> Yes. >> So, just I just so that everybody understands because that was a good
048question. You want to understand why. So, to understand if we were talking about five or 10 or 15 million, totally different story. But 53,000, every penny counts to everybody today, right? >> So, we just want to make sure that everybody understands the value of that. >> Yeah. We definitely don't want to downplay it and say it's only, >> you know, $20 per household. That's a lot. That's a lot for some people, believe it or not. And when they have, you know, they in the in the red at the end of the month. >> So, >> and it's still a good gesture that we would that we've done in the past that we we're paying that money, not taking it. >> Absolutely. Yeah. >> So, >> we can go back to doing it >> in the
049future when finances are Okay. I was just wondering if like stop doing it. >> This is a year to year thing that we would vote on every year. Okay. >> So, we can it can change at any time, but just so you guys everybody understands what the VA how much it's a small portion, but to some people it's not a small portion. So, you you guys should you know to understand that. >> Okay. Absolutely. Okay. >> And I believe I also have an agenda item that's an update on the MEC sale. Correct. It's on the second page. >> Yes. Uh regret to uh share with you that the buyer was unable to obtain financing um for the purchase of MEC. So, um, we have to have a discussion, uh, if we want to look to
050go out and place the building up for sale again. And then also there's the issue of the, uh, bid deposit that was turned in by the prospective buyer. So, um, leave open it up for discussion at this point. Um, obviously we were disheartened that we couldn't um, sell the building, but um, we still have an asset and we'll continue to move forward and see what our options are. >> So, we're going to discuss this open, right? >> Okay. The only question I have on the bid deposit is did we spend any money in this district on legal counsel >> or time with our employees? If we did, then my suggestion is if it was in the documents that they signed that the bid deposit should not be returned if the district has incurred any costs.
051>> I mean, I know we did incur cost. Um, I can review the legal bills. I know that it did it was a cost to publish the the notice. So, I can total those out and share that >> just so we're on the same if there's if we've incurred cost. My opinion is that that's why we put that in writing and we put that amount in there. Understood. >> Yeah. And I would like to I'm sorry. >> Go ahead. >> I I'll save this last spill. Go ahead. >> I was just going to ask and if those costs were costs we would have incurred anyway or is it cost that we incurred because someone came forward and said >> that's exactly what I'm asking. >> Okay. So it there was probably costs incurred I would
052assume with the district with legal drafting stuff for that having communications that we paid for. >> Yeah. I can think you know I understand what you guys are saying the the legal costs that pertain to that specific transaction >> but then that is also the third time that we've went out to bid for that property. So, you know, that as to your point, Janine, you know, we were going to incur those costs of publication to go out to bid if we go out a fourth time. Hopefully, not a fifth time, but we did incur it uh the first two times with no uh qualified biders. So, >> yeah. And >> I thought you wanted to go last. >> I am. I didn't know you was going to go ahead. What did what did the contract
053say if they put down the 10,000 any and they back out at that point it the contract reads it's ours correct and they signed that >> I have to verify that it's non-refundable I can put that in the FYI for you >> I say isn't there I mean I wouldn't do a contract that says that you keep my cons my earnest money if I don't even if I don't uh secure financing because typically if You don't secure financing. If they then you don't not like if they just back out then we keep it. Am I right? >> I've seen it work both ways and but my own experience has been >> residential contract. >> I know I I prefer to give you an opinion in writing that's not in public. I love that. >> Okay.
054>> Yeah. Because this is contract. That's a good point. >> Mr. Mr. >> I would just my legal advice on this particular topic to the board. I'd like to maintain the privilege on it. I'm happy to give it to you for what it is. >> Yeah. And I definitely would like the personal reason why this person was not able to obtain funds from a contractual point of view because it's not a open it's not black and white. It's not an open and closed case with earnest money because I believe I told a story with me when I looked to seek my first home and I was a young Maurice way back then and I put up earnest money on a house and unbeknownst to me I lost my job and the realtor wanted to keep
055my earn earnest money, but at the end of the day, I was able to get it back for those reasons. There was something that was out of my control. I never knew at that point that I was going to lose my job. And she wanted to move forward with the deal. Still, I can't get the loan. I don't have a job. And she's trying to do some shenanigans behind closed doors. No, give me my money back. So, if there's cases that we could justify giving this person their money back, by all means, let's give it back. But if they knew some things that could have prevented them upfront that they was not going to get this loan and they went forward anyway, we took the building off the market. I would not want to give
056any of it back. and minimum two if there's expenses occur from our council whatever out of that $10,000 I think we should recoup that that's my >> that was part of what I what I meant is >> sure >> I think a couple weeks ago or last month we asked Mr. Gazinski for an update and they said that they were waiting on the attorneys to have conversation or it was stuck in between somewhere. So if we're paying our legal counsel to do some of that mediation and there's and we're paying for it that's maybe give maybe if our expenses were 4,800 you give them 5200 whatever it is but we got to figure out what the district paid. So, Bill, when you present us your legal point, ensure you put that amount that we're paying
057you to offset that cost. >> Yeah. I'll try to separate it. >> And it depends on what the contract said. >> There are certain costs that were that you know, Mr. I worked to put together the packet that went out. So there was certainly some cost into it and then there was a more specific cost with respect to the negotiation the particular contract at issue here. So that's and then like Mr. Sal was just talking about trying to communicate and get information about where we're going. So there's some of those costs >> and I and I think >> it's not going to be an hour. >> No. Okay. And I think at this point I don't think we should try to solve what we're going to do next. I think we need to just take
058a deep breath >> and think about it. >> Absolutely. Jamie, >> can you refresh my memory? Did we open this bid this time specifically for this one person with >> Because in the second time we did it, they were supposed to submit a bid and then so we opened it a third time. >> A third time specifically for this person. >> It wasn't so specifically because everybody still had the opportunity. >> Had the opportunity, but we redid it. >> But we Yeah, we we just say, "Hey, we still got a potential buyer out there." Okay. >> With a high property. I was just wondering I just couldn't remember if where this fell, >> but it was it was for any public person who wanted to >> Sure. >> bid on the property. >> Thank you.
059>> Yeah. So, you know, let us digest what we look to do with this building and take it from there. >> Thank you. Thank you everyone. >> All right. Thank you guys. Do we have any old business? >> I had a question about the um I think a couple months ago we talked about >> the agricultural teacher getting a grant for 50,000 something >> for the wash and >> I don't know where we stand on that >> pack and wash. That's why you tried really hard to get it right. >> You did >> and that was going to be a $300,000 building. So Dr. we in a subcommittee uh as we were trying to uh prioritize where all the money was going and the little bit of money that was coming in to cover it,
060we did not feel like that was uh we had a lot of other pressing uh items at there. So we we delayed it for now and we'll look at it a little bit later. >> And so the 50,000 offsetting 250,000. Okay, understood. Thank you. Okay. Any other old business? You know what? I'm not sure if it's old business, but I'm going to give it a shot because we did talk about it. I don't know if you got a chance to see your email regarding our board policy on expenses, board member expenses. We have talked about this a couple times in public and I just wanted a clarity. I think last meeting board member Janine was questioning how >> I say Janine. I said Janine. >> It was me that asked the question >> and I
061think Oh, I think too it came up. It was I think Janine needed some clarity and you did probably ask her to >> just what we're supposed to do if we go over and how it works, >> right? So, yeah, I did email you guys the policy. I don't know if you had a chance to look at it, but real quick, it does have if we we are allocated $4,500 a year fiscal year. And again, this is the policy that I sent you guys. And it says once you exceed the $4,500, the board member will seek approval. So I'm like, approval from who? And it goes down a little bit further. It says, "Roll call vote. All board members expenses requests for travel, meals, and or lodging in excess of the allocated amount of those
062which do not fall within the guidelines listed below must be approved by a roll call vote at an open meeting of the of the board. Unauthorized spending will not be reimbured. So So basically the $4,500 and I think that kind of foot the bill. I think that's how we came up with it a while back to at least go to the national and the ITE here in Illinois that we have every November to cover those expenses and maybe maybe a little bit more. I don't know. So, so, so I think it incumbents upon us that we look at what we're spending, talk with Cheryl, see can keep a running track of your expenses and >> so take it from there. So my take on that too, >> yeah, >> is if if you're close and
063you're going to multiple once you're getting to the 45, nothing should be I would assume nothing is booked by our district. >> Yeah, I would point once you hit that number >> is for Cheryl to keep track of us or we keep track of our own of both. >> So it's some checks and balances. Okay. >> She left. >> Um, she does keep a running log and but um, and I think that we need to give it to the individual so that they know that they're running out because sometimes individuals may not know what they're >> right. Right. I don't keep track of it. >> I believe it is up on the individual to do their due diligence and, you know, try to stay within that. Sometimes what happens is people will go to a
064conference and it will go over. >> Yeah. >> So then it's already been spent. Yeah. >> I guess the question is, do we bring that to the board? If the board denies it, does that individual then has to pay a check? >> Well, and get reimbured for it is the idea >> because the idea is when you're at 4,500 >> Yeah. >> then there should be this district shouldn't be booking a a plane ticket or a hotel room anywhere else at that point. >> Yeah. So, I think as each individual board member need to work with our executive secretary or the superintendent. >> I I remember um two things. the when it first came up, we were talking about this and it was presented that triple I was separate from the 4500. I that's how
065I remember it. >> No, it was I was in there. We were We were in No, listen. Just let me finish and then I'll tell you what happened. So, that's how I how how it happened in the >> We talked about it. I'll say in close session when you all brought me in to tell me about >> myself. So after that, that's what happened. So after that, we came out to open session the next week and I had to ask permission to either go to triple I or Vegas. And my I was confused because in closed session we said that triple I was one thing, a whole another budget and that the 4500 was different. At that time I had proof via email that it was supposed to be 7500 or something like that but
066they never changed it in the policy. So at that time we decided to create a policy to ch to create an amount and you all voted for the 4500 and that's how we got the 400. And at the same time we even though in the week before it was said triple I was one 4500 was another you all voted to say whether I can go to Vegas or I could go to triple I only within a $200 range of each other. You all said no to Vegas and yes to triple I went to Triple I. Then when we came back, we talked about I talked about it with um and I don't know if you remember this, doc. We talked me and her talked about over the phone some a while ago and she confirmed
067yes, it was triple I was one thing. The $4,500 was separate and we should and she didn't say this, but so I say it. So then we should not have voted on whether I could go to or Vegas. What we should have voted on was whether I could go to Vegas or not like that, even though it was a no. So my that's how it went down um during that process of triple I and um and versus the 4500. So it's supposed to be separate. It was said that it was supposed to be separate. What's in writing? I don't know cuz I did not get to see this yet. So if it's in writing separate that they're one and the same. Personally, I think that it needs to go up cuz prices go up. Um,
068and the cost of these conferences and travel go up. So, to keep it at a price from something that was 10 years ago doesn't work and then we could say we're being good stewards. But I think being a good steward over is getting education. Now, somebody could say, well, do you go what do you do when you go to these conferences? Well, it used to be that you would come back and give a report that took all night for some people. Some people had PowerPoint slides and presentations. So, the board had went away from that. Um, now I think that if we're in education, we should be getting educated. We shouldn't come to the board meeting week after week and say is can we do that? Should we do this? I don't know what that
069is. Why? And that's what happens with this board. We have board members who always don't know but they don't want to go get educated. >> And I think that that's unfortunate. Now, if you're a wy old board member who has who knows some stuff, and I'm not being funny when I say that, who knows some stuff. I understand you might not want to go as often, but I think we should continue to get continuing education like any um educational per anybody that's in the educational field. That's my take on why I think we should be at least allotted a little more money because and we should go get seek education even if it's not um if you don't want to go to triple I don't go to triple I if you don't want to go
070to national don't go to national but you should be getting educated and not just by the superintendent or other board members because that's not their job and they're they they're not the experts. So when all this came up, >> that's it. >> When all this came up, we talked about because of the overage, we talked and we established 4500 for professional development. So in my opinion, anything within July 1st to June 30th, our fiscal year, that's what it is. Wherever we go, when we go down to triple eye, whether it's in Chicago or not, we're still spending on hotels or parking or food. So it's all lumped into that. I've I'll be honest, I'm going into my eighth year and I've always known that that number means it triple has never been separated since I've
071been here. >> It's always been included in that if you're going to go, you normally have triple I and maybe one other conference. >> Now since co prices are more so it's edgy to go to that second one, but could it change a little? It's edgy, but it definitely is not enough to go to two or or three or four conferences. And like I said, that number is from fiscal year July 1st to June 30th. And it's individually. >> I just wanted to apologize. I didn't know what you had been told separately outside of. So I I couldn't talk about that. But when we talked about um professional development in that open meeting, we talked about professional development as a whole, not separating out the triple eye. So you got the 4500 for the fiscal
072year and how you spent it. You spent it. Now, I thought they could spend, my understanding was you could spend up to the penny of that 4500 and then we voted on whether or not you could use any extra money and then if you couldn't use extra money and you still wanted to go anything above and beyond was on your own. >> Yes, that's correct. >> I understood it. >> That's exactly right. That's right. So with the 4500 um that was that's a 10 year old number >> relatively. Yeah. >> That we so it was supposed it was supposed to be and I still have the email was supposed to be 7500 10 more a little more than about 10 years ago. They never changed it in the policy like they were supposed to when
073they voted on it. I was at that meeting and but because they didn't they still had 4500. Well, they didn't still have they put for 4500 because it was supposed to be 7500. They they they they were debating on should it be 4500 or 75. The board voted 7500. Some board members didn't want it to be 7500. What happened after that? I don't know. I just know 4500 was put down and it's been 4500 in a policy. But we did our own official vote just before you came on and voted to secure to do the 4500. So yes, it's been 10 plus years >> to make sure that it was established. >> Yeah. To make sure I'll go back I'll go back and and look at that. >> Two things. Um what is our budget?
074How much did we budget for professional development of the board? >> Well, right now the $4,500. >> No, like the >> Well, that's what I'm the $4,500 on an individual basis >> and then we have an additional $14,500 for joint for joint training. >> We each have a line item on our budget >> like it says Janine $4500 bill. >> Everybody has 4,500. >> That's per It says here each board member will be allotted $4,500 per fiscal year. But but we are itemized on the budget >> which is essentially two conferences, >> right? Two big >> conf. So in the budget there's $31,500 allotted plus 14 >> uh 14 for joint >> and then 40 Yeah. $4500 time seven. >> Yep. >> Yeah. That's where you're going. Where >> 14? Yeah. >> So So I'm
075sorry to interrupt. That's what it was. The 14,000 was supposed to cover everybody's triple I. That's what triple I was separate. Now that you say the 14 and then a 4500 was supposed to be your individual if you wanted to do something extra. That's what it was supposed to be. >> It says it says I don't know if you say triple high, but it says 14,000. Well, actually 14,000. I'm sorry. I said 145. It says available for joint board members in district training resources and professional development. >> I thought those were the people we were bringing in that year workshops and all of that >> or triple though too sounds like it could fit into that. >> I'm sorry. >> By the by the definition of what you just read joint in district also could
076have been triple I >> district. >> I don't that's not in district. That's what I was saying >> because it's not in the school district. You're not bringing it in. >> Yeah. >> That's what I wasuding when they bought me in the tail to chastise. >> And I think that's where the disconnect in all of our communication. >> That could and that could be it then now that we get this. >> Yeah. Now that we understand what's going on and why there are two different numbers floating in heads. >> Yeah. >> And does it sound like to me it would behoove us to think about that 400? not for Janine but just if it's a 10-year-old number >> is that is that value added for 4500 if we think >> again I would look at
077it because I think the conferences either the national or the cost of what both of them is considered national >> I think just the conferences in and it of itself is like $1,000 so if you go to and and triple Y is probably $1,000 too >> per person >> yeah I think I is about $1,000 roughly so if you take triple Y, you take the national, you $2,000 just for the conference. Now, the hotel accommodations and the PL flights and all of that that could come up. So, I don't know. I have to look. I I think I didn't exceed it. I went to the Nationals, I believe, or you and I went to the Nationals, went to Triple I. I don't think I exceeded the $4,500, I don't think. >> But we can look
078at it. We can revisit it. Definitely. we can see because again >> what the prices are cuz if we're faced in our track on an old 10y old member maybe >> that's true and I want to go back and I want to go back and look at the 10 year you know Dr. Oh, if that was cuz I was here. So, if I voted on something and it did not get changed. >> No, you Yeah. I don't know if you remember when we were in there and I showed you. >> You showed me something. You show me an email. >> Yeah. They didn't It didn't >> I have to go back, you know, I go back and look at that >> and see just what happened. >> Are we in a financial pos and I'm
079not saying like this would probably come up a hundred times over every year. Are we in a financial position knowing what we know to start adding additional training dollars? I see Bill shaking his head. >> I don't think I don't think that's Yeah, Jamie. I said we can revisit and look at it. >> Oh, no. Definitely. It was just an open question and statement >> and and we do or don't. >> Yeah. One of our major responsibility is to be good stewards over the finance of the district, right? >> And and and Dr. Hall alluded to too, we want to be we want to have be knowledgeable through professional development. So, it's a balance. So at every year our business manager, superintendent, they fit us with a budget. That's budget. So we budgeted with that
080money for whatever to do it. Cuz at one point we was talking about if one board member didn't use all of the money that they were allocated to, they can pass it over to another board member. But that was never written and that we kind of clashed with that. >> I think that was what why we would come to vote. Like am I right? You can correct me if I'm wrong. Well, where if I was over then I can say, "Hey," and we can somebody >> somebody would say, "Well, I didn't I'm not using mine." And then we were both off, >> right? And that kind of got muddied a little bit for the fact and I'm I'm about policies. I'm about standards. It's got to be in black and white. You can't really go
081wrong that way. And so >> the 4500, you know, is a good number for someone especially if you're and I say getting started because you don't want to go away right away because you don't know what you're what you're seeking. What are you searching for? The first couple years I was here, I really focused on going to the tripey or anything local and worked on bonds to understand financing >> because I thought to me that I thought that was very important. But I mean every we have seven different opinions here and I'll tell you my opinion. There's no way I go to a conference out of state and I feel like if it costs 3500 bucks am I getting value out of that. Me personally I'm not getting value out of that. >> And that's
082why we have to let every board member decide >> what they want >> for themselves because me personally I just don't see going to a conference somewhere else. >> But you're going to remember I'm not in education. You know, I'm in construction. So, when I'm going to an educational conference is being a good fiscal steward going away for for three days or four days, what am I going to come back for the value of the money that's going to be spent there >> is just not in my wheelhouse. >> Yeah. And you have to look prior to you have to look at the catalog and say, you know, whatever. That's correct. And I told Janine about >> the qualms that I had. It was not so much going because I definitely get a lot out
083of those conference. I will not go right. >> But my problem is what do I do with the information that I obtain as a board not moving forward with something I learned. I don't think I don't think I don't I haven't seen one thing yet >> of all the times to my knowledge that the board has implemented something from what we learned at those conferences. >> And you still have a small spot. Yeah. >> So I mean going for a broad thing is really not going to b you got to go for for specific areas so that you know where you want to learn, right? I mean >> I will say that um last year when I went I was new fresh in >> um I actually did learn a lot. >> Um and I
084appreciated it and that's why I couldn't wait to go again because I know that there's an advocacy track, there's a student achievement track. So there's so much >> it's overwhelming sometimes. Well, maybe maybe. But I know one thing that we have as a district, we really have owned >> the pride of professional development for our teachers, for our staff, and making sure they have the days off, bringing in guest speakers. All that costs money. And I just want to make sure that >> when it comes to us >> as the governing board of this district that we embrace professional development in the same way we do our teachers. >> Absolutely. And so I just want to make sure that >> not whether or not I'm getting value or anything, but I just don't want to
085feel like I'mma be policed >> when I go to a conference. Second conference >> and you're not. You are entitled to go to these conferences. We have money. >> Yeah. And I can and I can see the enthusiasm you have. I saw you at the conference. You was so excited to go from one session to another. And that's how I felt when I came on the door and that's how I still feel otherwise believe me my time is precious and all of our time is precious >> and for me to take the time out to go to that conference I'm looking for meaningful result when I come back and and the professional development is really important for our staff. It truly is >> for us. I just don't want us to forget. >> It truly
086is. But if you notice >> the way uh Dr. Perkins and and Dr. Chicago needs to have been able to do that is by bringing them in here so that it affects more people because if we had to fly or pay for travel for a bunch of people. >> I just know that those speakers aren't aren't um inexpensive either. I'm just saying when we it just needs to be balanced. I just want to make sure that we're embracing professional development for us as the governing board as well as and putting it with high importance and priority the same way we do teachers and our administrative staff and everybody. So that when we come and say oh my god I saw a conference I'm not like well I guess I can't go because to me being
087a good steward of money is also utilizing it for the intentions that it was budgeted for. >> Absolutely. If we put a budget out there for $45,000 and no one goes, that's not being a good steward either. So I agree. >> I say that and I yield the floor. >> Now I will say I will say our people do if you pay attention because I do look at the the dollars. They do go to they don't just get trained here. They go out and they spend money on hotels and planes and cars or rentals and they they we our district spends money on them people out. And I wanted to Jason at this triple Y the last triple Y Brian presented and I was sitting in audience and I didn't know Brian was presenting and
088as much as I love my finance and all of that I still learn things and I still want to go to these sessions and Brian gave an excellent presentation that PowerPoint I was can you get it to the report electronically or maybe if I have a hard copy next meeting. >> Yeah, I can uh I can that'll be good for you guys to have. Okay. The financial presentation that Brian did back in November of last year. Okay. Well, good discussion and I do challenge you if you look at the go over this, you see anything you want to change or anything like that, shoot me an email. I I do thank you for bringing it up and I thank you for sending that. And to be clear, I only went to Triple I this year.
089Go to anything else. >> Now, this year, this is a fiscal year. You got part last year and part this year. That was last year. Okay. >> Oh, wait. >> Trip tripy was last year. November. >> But in this fiscal year, >> in this fiscal year. >> Yeah. Only triple Y. >> Only triple Y. Well, you get my approval to go to a state session on something. Well, >> can I have a bull? No. >> All right. Sorry. Sorry. Uh, we prolonged that, but I think it was a good discussion. >> All right. >> So, >> that's old business, new business. Any new business? Oh, I forgot to mention doing board updates. I went to that basketball game. remember last meeting? I caught a little bit of it. That was the most exciting game I
090ever went to >> and we won. It was the girls. It was the girls and I probably caught a good half of it after leaving this meeting. And the most exciting thing was and I don't I really don't know all the ins and outs about this 67. The 67 >> I don't know. I don't think anybody. >> Oh my god. >> Don't answer. >> Well, they had 65 points and it was like so many seconds left AND IT WAS 67 67 and I'm right there with them. 67 67 because that was my birthday this year. Okay. And and they made 67. That's how the score ended. And they was hopping over the your sweat. They just won the state championship. But that was very exciting. So, all right. No other new business. The only last
091thing is if you guys saw there tonight was supposed to be special Olympics >> basketball game with police and fire and because of the weather they canled. So it's going to come out in April. So if you guys if they don't schedule it on a Tuesday if you've never been. >> It's a blast. >> Is it really? And then at halftime they'll put a big um bullseye out there and then you can buy for raffle and you know fundraising you can buy ducks and you throw them the guy person uh the closest to the center it's like a 50/50 but if you've never been it's fantastic >> and it was supposed to be tonight but if they reschedule it in April and you can make it try to make it it's really really great >>
092everybody >> I would I would love I would love I would love board members being participants in those events in manner. See what you can do, Bill. >> All right. We do have a reason to go into close session >> for the appointment, employment, compensation, discipline, performance or dismissal of specific employees and litigation when in action against affecting or on behalf of the particular public body has been filed and is pending before a court of administrative tribunal tribunal. Can I have a motion to go into close session for those reasons given? >> Moved by Bill. >> Second by Dr. Hall. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Salish. >> I. >> Dr. Hall. >> I. >> Miss Veneggas. >> I. >> Miss Wolf. >> I. >> Zit. Stumbris is an I. Mr. Gagos. >> I. I'm forgetting
093the city of >> Mr. Brown. >> I motion carried. We should be into close session. We would be in close session about 45 minutes and we would not take any action thereafter. Thank you public for joining us. Please have a safe and productive