Board of Education Meeting 4/24/18

001have a moment of silence, please. >> Please rise for the flag to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. In accordance with the provisions of the open public meeting act, a public notice of this evening has been sent to board members, all district school, the herald news, the trends, the record, the messenger, west town hall, county superintendent office, board attorney, and table of work and posted on the district website, copies of the board meeting calendar. Resolution will provide it to all local media, town hall, township, library, and all district schools. Roll call. Mrs. Francis, Mr. Bailey, Mr. Sidowitz here, >> Mr. Drew >> here, >> Mrs. Wire here, Mr. Burino >> here, >> Mrs. Grizz here,

002>> Mr. >> Here, >> Mrs. O'Brien, Mrs. Van here, [Music] >> Dr. Yes, >> good evening everybody. Welcome to our April meeting. Uh we're going to go a little bit out of order for the superintendent report. I'm going to lead off with Mrs. McIntyre, Miss McIntyre for our student representative report. >> The Highlanders had a good April. Our history club competed at a national history day where three students created an award-winning exhibit on the Oregon Trail. They will now be competing in the state competition in May. On the 20th and 21st, students in the green club cleaned our town for Earth Day. Our Highlander band also had the opportunity to march down Main Street in Disney World's Magic Kingdom and perform along with the jazz band and the choir at Disney Springs. Our TV science

003classes are putting together a promotional video for genrebased English courses in hopes of promoting them and bringing more interest to the high school. Senior Choice Awards were very successful this past Friday and the cable will be held this Sunday the 29th for to fundra for the project graduation. Up and coming is National Decision Day. Bring your kids to work day on the 26th and SAT boot camp on the 28th and 29th and AP testing from May 7th to May 18th. Thank you very much. >> Thank you, Madison. Uh our monthly progress toward district goals. Uh we are finishing up the 1718 year now and I'm going to uh present to the board next month the uh a recap of our district goals for 201718 uh or at least as much of it as can be

004presented. Some of it may extend a little bit into June, but we're going to get as much of it done in May to wind uh to finish up the 1718 school year. And as you know, last week the board met uh in our board's goals meeting with New Jersey school boards to craft new goals for the 18/19 school year. So, we're going to be getting those back from our school board's representative probably this week or next. And we will have that on the board agenda for official approval in May. Once it's officially board approved, I'll share that with the uh school community, the administrative team, the teachers, parents, the entire school community. Okay. So, that's the process there. And next up, we have our public hearing on the budget presentation. So, if the board members

005here want to move their seat and get more comfortable, now might be a good time. Calm down. Good. How are you? >> Guess I'm not going to read this. >> Screw lady. Good evening, members of the board, members of the public. Uh we have our public hearing tonight. Uh very few changes since we last met in March for our preliminary budget hearing, but this is the last step of our budget process that began in October. So the budget that we're presenting that the board is voting on tonight is very is very fiscally conservative. the budget increases by just over 1.2%. With a slight increase greater than that of our general fund of 1.28%. Okay, as you can see by this stat right here, our budget here puts money in the classroom. So, our administrative costs

006per pupil are significantly lower than the regional average. Okay, the regional northern region limit is 2246 per pupil. We're at about $400 less than that per pupil. So $400 doesn't sound like a lot, but when you spread it out amongst over 3,000 students, it's a lot of money. So what that tells me and what that should tell you and the entire community is this budget puts money into the classroom where it defect directly helps children. All right. So our district goals for this year, our 1718 goals, we have four district goals. Okay. We're finishing those up this year. This budget is going to support the district goals that we just discussed last week. The 18/19 budget, the 18/19 district goals that will be voted on in miday. So, this budget is going to support those

007goals. As I mentioned before, this is our timeline. It started in the fall uh probably in October. We developed our budget guidelines. I'll go over that in a moment. Uh it ends tonight at the public hearing and this current budget year ends June 30th. Our new fiscal year begins on July 1. So the budget we're voting on tonight has to will be in effect till June 30th, 2019. So it's about 16 months away. All right. Curriculum highlights in this budget. I'm going ask Mr. Novak to touch on that for just a moment. >> Sure. We've we've picked a few of the uh I guess the larger ticket items that are going to be uh that are in the budget and they're items that we've been speaking about over the years that have been come uh

008come up in this room and also at our education committee meetings. Um the first we're in the uh next year will be year three of our five-year plan for our readers writers workshop training for all for all staff members grades K through eight. A good time for us to you know revisit that program. Uh we're we're calling it um re refresh, renew and review and revise. And um we're going to get an um opportunity for our staff members to now having used this program for that amount of time to ask these presenters those next level of questions. We started with math training again. We had a 5-year plan for readers and rise workshop. We also have a 5-year plan in place for uh math. Also moving into a third year for next year. Uh we've

009shifted gears a little bit with a um these the last two years we had a um outside consulting firm coming in who would not necessarily connected to a a publisher, but they were a um presenter for delivering best practices and teaching our and trying to work with our staff and using some of those best practices. some more um mathematics groupings and and hands-on um activities in the classroom. This is a a direct companion to the program as it exists now. So, we've spoken often about the potential for looking at other programs. This is the first step of looking at our existing program um finding to trying to find if we're using it to its potential and seeing what we need to do to make sure that we're maximizing that program or looking to to move

010on. So, it's the the beginning of of that process. Um the next item up there is we have uh moved on in our grades six and seven math curriculum. for bringing in a new textbook uh new textbook series that is a great precursor to what we are currently using in grades uh grades 8 through 12 and it's the Glenco uh math curriculum. It also has to um some rejoicing in grades 6 and 7 the potential replacement of so they have a um online component that accompanies that. It's called Alex, not with an X but with a KS. Um and we've seen some uh success in that in some of the districts that we've spoken to. So, we're going to be working with that um next year in grade six and seven. Uh we just completed

011a one-year review of our phonics program. We looked at a variety of different phonics models that are out there. We had a committee of 12 to 15 staff members in grades K through two as well as some administration. We visited other districts. We saw other programs in place. Uh we met with vendors and we really vetted a variety of programs and we've um on our um approval for tonight is uh Brainspring which is the phonics first program. It it uh connects greatly with the Orton Gillingham multiensory approach to reading um uh goals that we've we've implemented in in the district. So this is a nice enhancement to that. So, next year, our budget for next year includes all of kindergarten with some uh pilot teachers in first grade with the goal that over a two-year

012period, we will be complete in grades K through two. So, uh we didn't want to just throw it at second grade teachers. We wanted the, you know, to build that that fundamental skills, the the background prerequisite skills in kindergarten so that those kids can can carry it forward into the first and second grade. So, um that's what that looks like for the future. over a 2-year period will be completed with that process in grades K through two. Uh at the high school level, we're excited about our um addition to our STEM program with our robotics 2 course, which takes our our current students who are in the first year of our offering of robotics one. Um they move on to now a course that takes the skills they learned in robotics one and helps them

013apply to some um you know, real world applications. um although it's not on the bullet point along with our some of our STEM initiatives we also have um offered uh conceptual physics and um automotive 3. So we've we've really been looking to um take our science and our industrial arts departments and and truly take a STEM approach to the way that we're offering in in those two aspects. And those are just I said some of the highlights of of our things for next year. >> Thank you, Mr. Novak. So, the budget guidelines I referred to before, we developed these in committee in the fall, shared them with the full board in October. Uh, I'm proud to say that there are five basic principles and goals that the board of ed set for itself for the

0141819 budget, and we met every single one of them. First of all, and these are in no particular order of importance, but stay within the confines of the tax lever cap state law. We did that. Continue to fund professional development and curriculum review. We accomplished that. Zerobased budgeting strategies were implemented. We reviewed every line. We aligned our budget process with our district goals. We just set them the other night, but we know we have money for those district goals. And lastly, and this is an important one, we operationalize staffing reductions with respect to student enrollment trends and other factors. So, there are significant staffing cuts in the 1819 budget. Okay. Our tax levy increase over the uh for this year is going to be 2.75% unchanged since March. Um as you can see it's a

015very low tax increase whether it's just this year over the past four or even seven years. We're one of the lowest in the region perhaps one of the lowest in the state. Our four-year average is under 1% our seven-year average is just over 1%. So we're doing really well there spending the public money as conservately as possible. Okay. Fund balance. There's a little bit of confusion with this all the time. So, I always want to include this slide just to give people a refresher course. This is something M. Francisco and I discuss weekly. Uh, and it's something you probably see twice, three times a year. So, I thought it was important to include this. This fund balance is a revenue line in our budget. So it's a revenue line that we look at every year

0161617 to 1718 1718 to 18/19 and we project forward as well. So if that number goes up you have additional revenues. If it goes down you have less revenues. So when our budget year ends on June 30, the auditor comes in and he sees how much money is left unspent. In essence, that's your fund balance. Okay? I'm simplifying it a little bit and it's added to the budget as tax relief. Not the next not the next day but the next year. So it's about a one-year lag. So the problem that we have and we discussed this last spring is that our fund balance has significantly diminished for 1819. It's down over $900,000 which means we started off our budget process in October in the hole by $900,000. When we increase taxes by a million a

017million dollars, you're only really increasing your total revenues by about $100,000. You should take that as a difference. So, ideally, this is not something that's used in your budget to fund reoccurring expenses like salaries and health benefits. It's best used for one ticket items like a roof, a some sort of capital project that you only have to do one time because this money is not necessarily going to be there every single year. And if you look at this slide, you see a nice uptick here working, but you see a nice increase a few years ago, which is why we had a little bit more money every single year in our budget. But you see where it was last year, it was down a couple hundred thousand. And then you see where it is for 18/19,

018it's down about just under a million dollar and it's projected to drop by another 67 $800,000 again this June 30th. So this is a revenue line that's decreasing in our budget. And this number comes from right from the audit book. So you all have that >> little button. Okay, so this is a big this was the big problem in our budget this year. Fund balance was down over $900,000. Okay, so if you look at our total revenues, they're only up by 1.28%. So we know that when you look at all of our expenses year-over-year, if you aggregate those and volume weighted, our expenses rose by more than 1.28% year-over-year. Our salaries went up by more than that. Our health benefits went up by significantly more than that. our utilities, transportation, gasoline, everything went up by

019more than 1.2 point 1.28%. Which is why we had to lay off the number that we do. Our expenses now, as you can see here, uh again, the bottom number is max 1.28%. And the reason there are some cuts here is because there's some staffing layoffs. So, wherever you see those numbers in the negative, it's because we have staffing layoffs. Tax levy impact on a average house set at 200 just under $250,000. The average tax uh payer is going to see $130 increase in their school taxes next year, which is just over $10 a month. All right. How did we get to this point? Our efficiencies. These are the step and layoffs I referred to. one administrator. We have three elementary sections. At the public at the preliminary budget in March, it was six here.

020Now, we've reduced it to three. So, we have a sixth grade section at Westbrook that is graduating. And we have, I believe, fifth grade sections, current fifth grade at Appro and PK that are going to be reduced or current fourth grade rather being reduced next year to fifth grade. Uh, three sections into two. So but this this cut went from three ele from six elementary to three. We have series of cuts at Makipin and the high school as well. Secretary.5 custodian. So there's cuts in personnel across every just about every position group in district. All right. Uh Dr. McCoy is continuing to work to reduce the number of students placed in private schools for students with disabilities. We know that we could educate these children better and we know we can do it more cost

021effectively. So for every student we have going out of district at $75,000 tuition with $18,000 transportation cost, we only have to bring back a couple of those to pay for the teacher and the aids for the program to make it uh to make financial sense. Okay, we have shared services with the township. Uh we have we belong to a significant number of co-op purchasing programs and we are looking to we just issue out the EIP. Uh final can you touch on that for just a minute? >> Sure. Uh we um the final walkthrough has been completed. We're waiting for the final report. Uh once we have that information, uh we'll be able to determine what kind of programs that we can put in place for energy savings and recoup some of the expenses by lowering

022our energy costs. So, um do you have anything more? I know Chris Kelly, our buildings and ground supervisor, did all the walkthroughs with um the people from TRC. We're just waiting like you said to the final report and we'll go from there. Should be in hopefully within the next 30 days. >> The reason this this program does take a little time to uh to get started. The representative from the state was here one day per week over a series of months. Uh some of those days were snowed out so sometimes we went two weeks in between visits. The elementary school could be done in one day. McAfee might have been two days, which is really two weeks. The high school may have been three days. We stretched that over three weeks. So, it takes a

023while, but all the walkthroughs have been done. They've had a a clipboard. They've walked around every school, every classroom to see all the outlets, all the fans, all the lights, all the windows, the doors, the building envelope to see where we can find some energy efficiencies. So, uh we are looking to uh make some progress there as well. All right. capital projects in the in this year's budget 18/19 budget. Uh the McCormic Field bleachers, as we know, they're very old and in dire need of repairs. So, that is in the budget. Uh the Maple Road roof currently has some leaks pretty much everywhere. That is in the budget as well. We have some yet to be determined school security projects, but we do know we have some money for school security. We certainly can't do

024everything in this budget year, but little by little, we can continue to make our school safer. Uh, some high priority, lowc cost. We have the fieldhouse part two. Part one is in the 1718 budget. Part two is going to be in the 18/19 budget. And we already touched base on the EIP program. Okay. What does the future look like? revenues will be flat or in decline, which means we're going to have the same amount of money to pay for everything next year or maybe less. Our expenses will continue to increase. By expenses, I mean salaries, benefits, etc. Uh we're going to have a very limited ability to fund capital reserve account and our maintenance reserve accounts. These are the accounts you can fund at the end of June. And just going back here, um, this

025is, if you've been reading the newspaper, there is been a lot of talk. We got our state aid numbers on March 15th of this year. We did our preliminary budget a couple days later. So, we did have we did realize about $400,000 extra in state aid this year compared to last year. We don't have the money yet. The federal the uh state government budget is not finalized until June 30. So there is no state budget for 18/19 yet for fiscal year 19. There is significant amount of talk and discussion that the state aid formula might be changed for 18/19. So if that happens, there's a good possibility that some towns will see their state aid number diminish and other districts will see their state aid increase. This happened last year to us in June. By

026the very end of June, we lost about $20,000 in state aid after our budget had already been finalized. After our rehires had been made with all that's due statutoily now, but with a $20,000 cut with a $75 million budget, we were able to absorb that loss of revenue uh with some supply cuts. Um the numbers I'm hearing now are significantly larger. So the chance that our state aid numbers that we received in March will change before the end of June 30 2018. So don't have more for you on that now, but it may be coming up shortly. Those budgets usually get done mid to late June anyway. So uh the overall analysis is that and I put this bullet point in here last year and there was some eye rolls but I'll put it again

027now. There's a very good possibility that the next budget, the 1920 budget, is going to be we're going to be in the exact same place we're in now. Staffing reductions and diminished fund balance, flat state aid, perhaps today, perhaps today, perhaps today, perhaps today, perhaps. >> In theory, um, they'll identify the energy savings that we can have and what projects are going to do a return within I believe it's a 15year window. That's the max. Um it will uh open up the ability for us to um fund it either through a capital reserve account or through bonding, but um I don't know that you're going to see energy savings and and that are going to cover all of your costs. >> Well, we don't have the audit yet. So >> So and and that's Yeah.

028And then it depends on the monies that you know the rate of the bond too whether or not you're going to be able to cover that with the energy savings that you're going that they anticipate that you're going to receive, >> right? >> You know, it's in theory it works out really well. Um sometimes in you know when pedal to the metal it doesn't quite >> Can't hear you as well. Sometimes it doesn't quite work out the way theoretically it could. >> Oh no. I'm just as a clarification to the public is not even a critique of anything. It was just to state the difference between the two programs. >> Anybody else on the board? >> Thank you very much everybody. That's all for the superintendent's report. Thank you. >> Yeah. uh director of education.

029>> Good evening. Thank you. Uh I just have a a few brief announcements in relation to some of the things we have going on right now. Um our high school is in be has begun the second week of park testing. Our elementary schools and the Makaban school will begin uh next week and the weeks following. we were able to adjust our uh schedule and we did that based on the amount of snow days where we um lost some some classes uh leading up to the park assessment. We were able to flip-flop uh when we were offering the language arts assessment versus the math assessment. We believe that the um not that not that all class time isn't crucial, but the um some of the skills that needed to be covered prior to the testing, we

030thought were um you know, would benefit the math uh the math curriculum and the math department a little bit more. So, we're able to switch and give those uh our math teachers another week to to prepare their students prior to uh prior to Park. And we've been getting some u some really positive feedback from from doing that. Uh our refusals are at an all-time low. I don't have the um specific um number yet as as it's sort of a rolling process and once the park is completed we'll know exactly uh how much lower the refusal rate was but um it was very um significantly lower than than what we've been reporting on in the past years. We've also been receiving some positive feedback from the community in regard to um Star Math and the you

031know the the look at that Starmath assessment over the course of a year um and leading up to a time period like the park. Although it's not entirely for park preparation, it's for you know overall awareness of a student's math ability throughout the year. uh it has helped um helped our parents and our and our staff be a little bit more informed about where a student may be you know functioning on a um web-based math assessment such as such as the park. So that has been that has been great. Uh along that um along that vein um we just released our grade reporting for the third marking period. the parent and student portals opened uh opened yesterday as well as the elementary schools and great uh for grades prek to six brought home their uh

032paper report card along with the paper report card for elementary students. They brought home their third STAR math assessment as well as a uh letter that um Colleen Weiss Magisik, our industrial arts and science supervisor, sent to the community about the anticipated changes in the elementary uh science curriculum to address and to um work with the next generation science standards. So it was a uh indication to the community that the the way we the way we teach and the way we expect to see science in the classroom has changed and we thought it would be supportive for the teachers to communicate to the community um you know to be aware of those changes. So that was a letter that went home with uh with the report card. Uh we are also um in the process

033of um completing the master schedule at the high school which is a a daunting task to uh schedule all of our students into the programs and hopefully all the electives that they want to be part of. Um when this appeared on the agenda I got panicked calls from the high school um people thinking that we were going to unilaterally just change the master schedule design as we had been you know researching. But that's not what this uh this announcement was. This is just a simple um announcement that we are in that scheduling process. Although we have been reviewing uh progressive and varying scheduling master scheduling models for the high school, we are not going to be implementing something uh in that regard for September. There was some u budgetary decisions involved in that and the

034um you know the process for that shift and including a unit launch and and some of the other dynamics of that were cost prohibitive uh for us to be able to implement that for next year. Um however that committee is still alive and well and and eager and it has been a um a component of the preliminary uh results or the preliminary discussion of the next high school principal. So, you know, we're eager to um you know, take our take our West Milford High School into the future with with some of those discussions. And that is it for my report. >> So, I want to jump back into my report. I have two things I've neglected to mention. >> Sorry. >> Um regarding FAR, uh I thought at some point it was mentioned that going

035to be compulsory and that it wasn't going to be an optional exam. Is that correct or question? there is a um certain cohort that is a graduation requirement um as of right now. >> Okay. >> Sophomores and below, >> right? >> Thank you. >> And uh just two quick pointers I forgot to mention before. Uh a couple years ago, the high school and this board supported the creation of a girls volleyball program for fall sports. And we just had our first signing day uh activities about a week or two ago. One of our students, Carly Love, has signed to play volleyball at Lyomeman College uh next year. So, congratulations to her. And it's still a young program, but we've come a long way. Uh and I know the girls appreciated the board support and we

036look forward to a great season next year. And one more thing, I know we have a lot of Eagle Scout projects in town. Uh some of them at our schools, some of them at other places in the community. one nicer than the next. Well, I think I may have seen the nicest one in town. Just let >> report. Um, Mrs. Dwer and I attended a board conference this weekend which was on leadership training which was very informative and helpful and in that conference we got to interact with many uh different districts and I found it very interesting. I'm sure Mrs. wire will create a number of districts are operating and have state monitors because of deficits. So, um I think I think um when you look at this budget over this next uh this next

037year, you'll understand why some of the increases are there. And you if you compare to some of these districts, I really it really surprised me in meeting some of the some of these different board presidents and some of the struggles that they're having in in their districts uh just even keeping programs running. So, uh, I just want to thank Mr. Squire, for going. We had we had a good, uh, we had a good learning experience and it was a, it was positive for me in particular. Uh, now we're going to go to a public comment. Members of the public who have requested to speak prior to the meeting will be first with five minutes for each speaker for a period of 30 minutes and then time permitting other public comment limited to 5 minutes per

038speaker will be allowed until the 30 minute period expires. All members of the public speaking during public comment are asked to address topics listed in the agenda. All speakers are asked to give their full name, spell their last name, and provide their address. Speakers may not use the names of students during public comment. Mrs. Francisco, do we have people signed up? >> Yes, we do. Um, we have Hi, my name is Kay Edelstein. I wanted to introduce myself to you. Uh, ed E L S T E I N. I live on Mountain Circle North here in West Milford. I currently have two children that attend the Maple Road School and I came here today to talk to you about the budget. It's part of the agenda and how I myself and many parents that I

039speak to, not only in my school's community, but in the community around West Milford, have concerns over how the proposed budget is going to affect our children's emotional safety. Now, I came here tonight to talk to you about the reasons why I believe we need full-time social workers within our elementary schools. And I don't know if you're familiar with the fact that we have part-time social worker. And I say part-time because although they are full-time, they share their uh time within our elementary schools, two and a half days here versus two and a half days at the next elementary school. I wanted to talk to you today about safety because I think safety is a very important tie-in to the budget. Obviously, we're going to be spending some money on safety and security, and I

040think we need to in the elementary level spend it on emotional safety. The reason I say this is because the Secret Service years ago did a report called the Safe School Initiatives and they looked at the behaviors of school shooters leading up to their attacks. They noted that 95% of the attackers were current students at the school. That means at the elementary school with our children bust in our threat, the chances are that our threat is already within the school building. 71% of those attackers felt persecuted, bullied, threatened, attacked, or injured by others leading up to their incident. Now, I'm wondering if the threat is within our school buildings currently or the potential threat, why aren't we giving our students the opportunity to connect with the social worker that could help them perhaps make a

041difference in their daily decisions and their behaviors. Currently in West Milford, specifically in the elementary schools, we're seeing an uptick in violence and bullying type behaviors as evident in the increase of hips that are turned in from our elementary school students and from our elementary schools. Currently, Maple Road has a climate survey out there shows that 48% of our children at Maple Road have been emotionally bullied. 43% have been physically bullied. 36% don't know how to resolve conflicts without insults or fighting. Now, I'm curious to know if these results are published for our school, how many other elementary schools within our district have similar results. I would think it's got to be a thread that's common amongst all of our elementary schools because we aren't providing the support. More students are enrolled in our district

042student population with disabilities. As we know, Dr. McQuade is keeping our multiply disabled children within our our district. Uh we have wonderful programs, the ABA program, the prek inclusion program, multiple disabilities, K through six. Maple Road currently enjoys 35% of these students, this diverse population, and this doesn't include the the 504s and the IEPs. Now, we all know that children can pre be perceived as different. And these children already are in a category that's they're being perceived as different. Children who are perceived as different fall under a higher risk of bullying. Children who are targets need to learn how to respond to bullying. And those children who are the bullyers need to support to change their behavior and address the challenges that are influencing it. This can only be done with a social worker full-time

043in our school 5 days a week. A full-time social worker can provide support to children as they regulate their strong emotions at the time they're ready to regulate those strong emotions. They can behave better. They can learn skills and strategies to promote the self-regulation on their own. You know, back in 2015, a national study was done on the Journal of Public Health, and they found statistically significant associations between social and emotional learning in kindergarten and key outcomes for young adults later in education, employment, criminal activity, substance abuse, and mental health. An investment in our children now as the building blocks of our society in the elementary schools is what we need to potentially reduce their chances of encouraging and engaging in risky behavior. Now, there's research out there that shows a direct correlation between academic

044achievement, our park exams, and the social and emotional development that our kids have. We know that the strong positive relationships help kids develop empathy, compassion, a sense of right and wrong. The teacher changes every year, but the social worker is the constant, trustworthy, reliable face that our young children need when they go to school. A full-time social worker is something that we need to consider and I'm asking you all to consider as you do our budget process for now and our planning in the future. Thank you very much for your time. >> Thank you. Is there anyone else sign up? >> Yes. Um, we have Mercedes. >> Yes. >> Hi. Um, my name is Mercedes Prof. P R O E F R O C K. And I am a parent of a second grader and

045a prek at Maple Road. Now, I am here to um talk a little bit about school safety. My daughter is not bullied at school. My daughter seems to get along with everybody. But my story is a little different. On July 5th, 2017, my sister, police officer Moses Familia, was murdered. And I going through this grief. my daughter from whatever her future was if I wasn't able to contact or communicate with her that you think of our children, your children. This is all I'm asking the board. Think about a social worker where a child can be able to go in and have this familiar face and open door policy in every elementary school for children that are not being bullied, children that don't have a disability, but children that are going through something that my daughter

046went through. So that is all I I'm here to say. Think about the social worker. Think about our children. It might not be for this year, but think about them. Thank you. >> Is there anyone else sign up? >> Uh yes, Mrs. Huber. H U B E R West Milford. Weeks ago, at the request of several parents, I asked my husband to find out when the budget would be up on the website so people could review it. The message conveyed from administration was that it would be up after the county superintendent approved it. As more time went by, and still it was not up there, I asked him to inquire again. At that point, the information I was given was that it was not going to be on the website until 48 hours after the

047final budget meeting, which is tonight. It was not until it was advertised in the papers last week that the general public was informed of its ability to review the budget, but could only do so at the board office between 9:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. Monday through Friday. I did not understand why citizens were not afforded enough time to see information and come prepared with questions. So after researching I learned that the budget was supposed to be made available to the public soon as soon as it was submitted to the county superintendent not after his approval. When it comes to public inspection of the budget pursuant to NJAC6A23A-8.2 Two, once a district submits the budget application to the executive county superintendent for approval or by the statutory due date, if that date is earlier, the district

048must make available for public inspection all budget and supporting documentation contained in the budget application and all other documents listed in NJAC6A23A-1. Dr. Christopher Irving, PA County Superintendent of Schools, confirmed to me that the budget must be made available to the public by statute after it has been submitted. At that time he said it becomes a public document and although it may change it may be changed the public is still supposed to be given access to it the community is supposed to be given ample time to review and then express any concerns at the final hearing for Dr. Irving. Our budget was submitted to Dr. Irving on March 29th the final submission date. Even though it can't be advertised until after it's been approved by the county superintendent it must be made available to the

049public once submitted. I went to the board office to look at the budget and asked why the public was not given access weeks ago and I was told quote nobody asked. My next question was how would people even know that they were permitted to see it if they were not made aware. I also questioned its availability being limited to the board office between 9 and 3. That's during the middle of work hours for many people. Dr. Irving also shared that most districts make it available on the website basically because it's more helpful for the community. He added that some towns even have multiple meetings if the school districts are larger so that more community members can have a voice. We were given just five work days until this meeting and then limited to the hours

050between 9 and 3 with almost no notice. So if you work and can't take off time from work on such short notice or if you are disabled and can't physically get to the board office, you lose the opportunity provided to you by New Jersey statute to review how your tax dollars are being spent. I've heard several trustees on occasion justify rejecting a policy or process that is deemed by them to be quote too restrictive or more rigid than other districts. Does that logic not also apply to this process with the budget? Or are you all pretty good with just keeping citizens in the dark regarding their rights in order to further individual administrative and board agendas here? There are disabled individuals in our town who still pay taxes which fund our schools. As a child

051of an individual with advancing Parkinson's disease, I realize that if my mother lived here, your process would have denied her the right to review how her taxes on a fixed income were being used till the very last minute, possibly. Perhaps you would offer a reasonable accommodation, but how would someone even know to ask when the entire community was in the dark about their rights? If budget information does not go on the website until it's already final, you have all but ensured that it's too late for people to reasonably get details, voice opinions, or make suggestions to our board. We should be informed when we have the right by statute to review the budget information and informed with sufficient time to prepare for this meeting. I'm sorry, but an answer that we weren't informed because nobody

052asked is a copout to me and leaves a perception that the administration is intentionally keeping things under its best. Few people probably know the statute or even bother to research it. By not being forthcoming with that information, you're avoiding what you may deem to be potential obstacles in the process for budget approval. Providing the budget increase percent to the to the media and not the actual tax levy percentage also has the appearance of a calculated movement to mislead the public into thinking the actual increase is smaller than it is in reality. because I heard that from most people. Oh, it's only a one something% budget increase, a tax increase, excuse me. My final question is, why do you purposely design this process almost like a covert operation? Make it challenging for citizens to get basic

053information and keep the community in the dark. I just don't understand it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Is anybody else sign up? Is anybody else on? Anyone else interested in speaking? Mr. Jim Foody, you New Jersey. Um, I had the opportunity, as some of you know, um, to attend last week's goal setting meeting directly involves talking about the budget and it leads into it. Um, you talked about uh keeping some of the current goals for this year, modifying them slightly for next year and talked about the math program in the budget and what you're going to do. You did your research this year and next year you're going to implement. And I saw in the slide presentation that Dr. Anamone and Mr. Novak did that talked about professional development for some of the staff.

054It's clear to me that a lot of you people haven't looked at this budget book and I'll tell you why. I had one question after that meeting and it was answered. Professional development, staff development was cut over 50% for next year. So, how you going to work with the math program? How you going to work with the your next goal, which was reading and writing when you've cut professional development by over 50%. You know, a lot of people in here campaigned on allin for the children programs. You have a fiduciary responsibility to the taxpayers in town to to what Mr. Drew suggested, which is bonding for that roof. That would cost us $100,000. You wouldn't be raising taxes a million3 to pay for that roof, which you put in the budget. And and that's another

055thing in in all by itself. Last year we had 850,000 into to do that roof in the budget last year and it in it ballooned to over a million3. It's better than a 50% increase. I mean I just don't get it. Are you guys asleep at the wheel? I'm sure and I' and I've had the conversation with Joe before I left. Um, I'm going to ask to see this budget book that you guys got after tonight cuz I like to go through that budget and I know that I'm going to find things in there that shouldn't be in there. It it's it's it's apparent. You know, you got people on this budget and finance committee, which by the way, you should I think at this point change it to the tax and spend committee just

056like you change petitions request to public comments. But you guys got a a fiduciary responsibility. And I know just by looking around this room and everybody's got their head in their lap except for a few, nobody read this budget. I don't think any with the exception of maybe Mr. Drew, Mr. Mr. side. I'm I'm sure he did, but and I'm sure Glenn did, but I don't I don't think the rest of you guys and then Terry, you've said to me in the past, you don't understand that budget. >> Oh, yes, you do. But it was ominous, >> but uh I I I I hope that you guys have a a hearty discussion on this budget and that you make some necessary adjustments. Um, you know, bonding is a h 100,000 for maybe eight or nine

057years. You're going to taxes raise taxes a million3. You're not giving it back next year. You're going to keep it the year after that and the year after that and the year after that. And and addressing this $900,000 hole. Yeah. You had in the budget by your staff reductions, you made that $900,000 hole disappear. And I don't know if that was actually necessary. >> Thank you. >> I just want to say for anybody else speaking that all comments should be directed to the chair only, not individual board members. >> Thank [Laughter] >> Hi, good evening. Joe Marie Frederick's 38 West Road. Um, I'm what was I gonna say? I'm the bus driver. I'm the president of the union. I just wanted to make you aware that the bus drivers were very upset being notified that

058they're going to be losing their supervisor. You know, she was a breath of fresh air for everybody. You know, she came in, you every every day you come in, she smiles. She's sitting at the desk. She says, "How you doing? How is your day?" You know, she reprimanded where she had to be reprimanded to tell drivers if what went wrong. But whoever you're going to look to hire, she they're going to have some big shoes to fill because everything ran so smoothly down there with her. And it it was coming in, you can talk to her about anything. She had open door policy. You just go in and speak to her. I just wanted to let you know that we're just very sad about losing her. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Would anyone else

059like to speak? >> Management. >> If not petitions and requests in favor. >> Any opposed? Okay. Yeah, I have to go back to Sorry, I jumped over a spot there. We uh Mrs. Franciscu uh 20th meeting are available for your review and consideration. >> We need a motion. >> Move to approve the March 20th workshop regular preliminary budget hearing meeting and executive sessions. >> Second. [Music] Any discussion? All those in favor? >> I oppose. Under >> I'm just going to uh before we adopt the agenda, >> just got to make a couple of uh minor edits, typos. [Music] >> I'm going to edit it first. >> Okay. com. >> I'll make the comments now. So, a couple of minor edits on the agenda on page personnel student affairs resolution number 19. Uh, we're going to

060add one name. The name is Michael Gross. G R O S. And >> I'm sorry, could you repeat where? >> Uh, personal >> student affairs number 19. That's page 10. >> Correct. Page 10. You're going to add a school bus/van/ special used vehicle driver/vehicle aid substitute for those position. Person's name is Michael Gross. G R O SS O GO. Pardon me. Gross. And on that same page, personnel student affairs number 23. We are approving a leave of absence for Patricia Anderson for March 1, 2018 through May 1, 2018. Those dates have slightly changed. Then on page 11, personnel student affairs resolution number 31, this is the approved of reappoint of tenure certified teaching personnel. The list of people is in a an insert in your board packet. It's also in the board members page. There

061is one teacher named Barbara Edwards. She is listed as 0.56. The correct decimal is60 which is no change from this year. >> And the last two on page 12, personnel student affairs resolution number 38. We're going to add Michael Groso again under both categories. School bus vans, special used vehicle drivers and vehicle aid. One of the first one was for this year. The rest of this year, this is for next year. >> That's it. >> So, we need a motion. >> I move to approve the adopted agenda. Um because I sent an email when a parent asked about when the budget was going to be available. I sent an email out and I got a uh conversation with Dr. Anamone and was informed that uh the budget would not be available when it should have

062been. That information was passed on which then eventually got put on social media out to the public. I became a party to the inaccurate information being given out to the public on uh when they should have access to the budget. Um I was also told that as soon as the county uh approved the budget, it would be put on our district web page which was >> I didn't say that. >> You didn't. Dr. Anamone did. >> I took notes. Um >> let's keep it. Okay. Well, >> no, I got it. I got it both way. Let's keep it here. >> Okay. So, um I I have a problem with this. I I don't know how to cure it. Uh the the the public has been misled as to their rights with regard to review of

063the budget and when it should have been available. And um the only thing I could think of is to um find a way to have an additional meeting. Okay. which I believe there is a way to do. But uh I I think this is something that is important for the community to have confidence in in us that we give them the opportunity to to have their say. Um I I I'm just not sure that there's anything necessary to cure. The budget was submitted to the county right within the timelines. >> This is the same process that's been in place for many years. >> This is the same process that's been in for in place for many years. Um the budget was available as soon as the county superintendent approved it, which was two weeks ago.

064Um I have always had an open door policy for any person in the community that wish to. However, it is available. The uh information that is included in the dialogue of the advertised budget comes directly from the state of New Jersey. So, all of that was done within the timelines. If anything was incorrect, it was the delay in making a budget available until it was approved by the county superintendent. But once that was done, the budget book was available and the board members were advised. >> Just to clarify, the um userfriendly budget is put on the website after tonight or whenever the board approves it. >> Once this budget has been uh approved in whatever form it it it finalizes in, then within 48 hours it will go on the website. >> Yeah, that's the

065only budget that has to go on the website. To make the budget available to the public is to have the public able to see it by contacting Barbara. So, I don't think there's anything secure. There might be misinformation on social media, but there's always misinformation on social media. So, I I I don't think we've done anything incorrect. >> Right. The point is is that the budget should have been available for anybody who wanted to come see it as soon as it was submitted to the county according to New Jersey statute. Shortly after the last meeting, I made this inquiry and was told that no one could see it until after it was approved by the county almost a month later. There was three three and a half weeks that the public could have come in

066and seen the budget had they known about it. But the disinformation came from the superintendent to me to parent to the social media and it's a direct line from us. It's a problem in my opinion, very strong opinion and it's it's it's really easily traced. >> I don't know. Yeah, it is noted. I'm not sure when there >> you know the the bud the budget was submitted on March 29th. Um I did get an inquiry um from the county's county superintendent's office. Changes needed to be made. Those changes were resubmitted and once we got the final approval back, that book was available to anyone that wanted to come in. The advertisement was in the newspaper. Um, according to statute, probably um it's only required to be there 4 days ahead of time. We placed it

067in the um in the newspaper about 6 days ahead of time as you know um anyone that wanted to see it. Um, this is no different than it's been >> for the 20 years that I'm a >> business administrator. >> Make it part of the minutes that you >> now >> it's in there now. But I want to point out to the board members, I gave everybody one of these pages. Okay. At the very top, the top paragraph in bold is the one that actually just says pursuant to NJAC. I won't bother with the numbers right now. Um once a district submits the budget application to the executive county superintendent for approval uh or by the statutory due date if the date is earlier, the district must make available for the public inspection all budget

068and supporting documentation contained in the budget application and all other documents listed in and it gives the same statute uh with a a different uh section number. But the point being is that waiting till it's approved by the county is incorrect whether we've done it for 20 years incorrectly or not. >> It's noted. >> It's incorrect. >> It's noted. >> So it won't be that way. However, there is any member of the public that has expressed an interest at any time in the past has been allowed to come in and or call and ask questions. And Mr. Sidowitz before he was on the board, he would come in and he would take a look at things and he would ask questions. There's an open door policy at the board office and that's always been that

069way. >> I think it's so noted and move on. Is there other discussion on the budget itself? >> Mr. Uh, I would like to make a motion to remove um funding for the roof from the budget so that we can submit it as uh um to do the funding for the Maple Road roof so that we can do it as a bond instead. Second. You're you're asking to make an amendment to the to the motion. >> Okay. >> And you're second. >> Yes. >> Okay. Is there any discussion? >> Yes. I'm going to I'm going to go to you since you made the amendment first. >> Well, thank you. I appreciate that. If uh we were to do this purely from a financial perspective, if uh we were to do this as a bond as

070opposed to paying for it in cash, uh the cash price is around $900,000 immediately actually compute it instead of being $900,000 out of the budget. Now if we did it at 10 years with the interest uh it would be 72,000 a year which is um you know maybe about uh uh.15 of a tax increase. Very very substantial uh difference in the tax base but one of the principal issues is we're not foregoing the money that the state of New Jersey is is willing to reimburse us for doing these kind of capital projects. Now, most most people know that, you know, there are some people who have enough money, they pay cash for a car, they pay cash for a house, or they pay cash for a roof. But most of us, me included, these kinds

071of big purchases you're typically better off to do uh over some period of time with a loan for the car or loan for the house or loan for the roof or whatever it is. The tradeoff is a what I think is a very substantial financial gain in return for unfortunately waiting a year to do it. And and it is unfortunate. There's no question several of us went and and looked at the roof. Uh there there are leaks in it. Um and uh the only way to repair that is to redo the roof. uh we can take temporary measures which uh which they have done. One of the issues is that there's a potential for mold. You have water, you have mold sometimes. Uh it appeared there was some but in fact that was uh uh

072residue from glue where we redid tiles and and one of the facts that emerged is that roof has been leaking for eight years at least eight years which you know I didn't know. I didn't know we had a problem. So suddenly uh we we we've got this dire need and and I'm very sorry we didn't know about it last year. We could have done the bond in time. We could have had it done this summer. We could have gotten the reimbursement from the state of New Jersey. We could have spread the payments. Um but apparently now it's it's it's dire and uh uh I just kind of have to wonder about that. It's been leaking as I said for eight years. Um, we uh uh it seems like that the the our staff has put

073in uh what I'm going to call a drop ceiling uh water diversion. And basically what we've done this a drop ceiling and you have tiles and they've taken a kind of tile that you can buy. It looks like the cost is maybe around $200, maybe less. and it then is slightly depressed so that the water flows into uh uh the depressed part and then into a tube that you divert off to the side. It's a clever solution. Um and and it seems to work uh fairly well. Um I uh actually put a picture of it uh uh I didn't take a picture. I've asked before if I can show, you know, PowerPoint through the machine and I just got this this awful aruck. No, don't ever do that. So, um, on my website, uh, is

074a picture of what one of these looks like. Contractwithwestmelford.com. Um now I've got to say that just having people next to water being diversioned uh diverted is in my mind is not something that is uh egregious aborant. It is the very nature of civilization that we divert water. >> Can you kind of talk that through me please? >> Sure. It's the very nature of human civilization. We started civilization when we diverted water. Um, the Egyptian civilization, Romans built houses. >> The point of the referendum though, you would like it to be put on the bottom. >> I think it's a Yes. And I I ma'am, I'm not done. Okay. >> If I can get it. All right. Is this an important >> I want to stay on topic here. >> Purely diverting water is not

075something that we ought to say, "Oh, we can't do that. These poor kids have got to be, you know, I've got gutters in my house. Romans built their houses around water diversion systems. To this day, people in Bermuda and Hawaii divert water into sistns. Um, so inherently, I don't like it. We need to fix it. But if we have to wait a year just because we've got water being diverted through tubes, I don't necessarily see a problem with that. There was a terrible problem in that we moved some kids out of out of a room. Um, I I agree. It would be nice if we hadn't had to do that. Problem's fixed now. We've moved them back. I think that, you know, it's reasonable to expect that they can uh stay there for um uh

076for a year uh while we do this. >> Um >> can I give Ray a chance now or >> I'm not done? >> Okay. Not >> you want to interrupt me. >> No, I don't want to interrupt you. I just want to stay on the topic. >> Sure. Uh I can say that I think uh uh you know there's a general tendency and I agree with this. We want to support the recommendations of of our professionals with regard to education, with regard to finance and uh but but sometimes state of New Jersey requires that every dollar that's spent but in in in education that people who are elected by the people board members have to approve that and every once in a while board members actually have a decent suggestion. Now, three years ago, we

077were going to do the MCAP in high school roof. And the way that that was proposed by the administration, $6 million, 2% tax increase, 2% tax increase, and a 2% tax increase three years in a row at that time. And I think I was the primary person. I recommended, oh, why don't we vote for that? And and as a result of that, you know, we we got reimbursement from the state of New Jersey. we delayed the payments and we had much much lower tax increases. To be perfectly honest, we would be in our final year of the 2% cap. There would be no money available to consider these things now had we done it that way. And and and so I think that it's completely reasonable sometime for board members to step forward and say

078maybe we should consider a different way to do these things. So the long and the short of this honestly is that there's a tremendous financial benefit. The problem is waiting a year. It is a problem. We've got to fix the roof one way or another. Uh there's a slight issue with the voters approve it. But when you when we put that question to them, your taxes will be this if you don't approve for the bond and they'll be this if you do. We had 92% approval. I think the taxpayers are smart enough to say, "Oh, yeah, you know, I'll I'll vote for lower taxes." So, that's the um summary in a nutshell. >> Thank you for allowing me the time. >> So, I don't I don't know if this is right or not, but I

079know you said that we didn't know about this last year. I thought that I heard a previous board member say there were was $850,000 in the budget in a previous year for this. Is that correct? So, we did know about it >> and you know I I agree you love Bermuda. I know their water diversion system. I think some of our water diversion system at Maple Road is actually inside the building. I don't know that that's a good thing for >> Yes. Um I agree with my colleague that um a bond would be a wonderful thing, but I'm not willing to wait the year. I saw those roofs and I was very concerned that our autistic children were removed for three weeks from that classroom. When you take a child with special needs and put

080them in a different environment, it's going to upset their schedule. It's going to accept the um upset their emotional status and and I'm worried about that. I don't like the idea of the water being diverted in the classrooms cuz god forbid one of those pipes, those plastic PC pipes, whatever they are, snap and that water breaks, I think we're going to have a big problem. I think we need for the sake of our children to fix that roof. But I do respect your opinion. Thank you. >> Any other discussion on the amendment? Yeah. >> Um, >> I did speak with uh someone with a contracting background who has seen that roof that felt that there could be inexpensive temporary fixes that would last a year. Just throwing that out there because that makes it all

081possible. Is >> there any other discussion about the rule? Mr. Bailey, >> I'll be voting no against the amendment because guilty to some degree. have been on the board and this issue has come up and others like it and we put it off and now it's time and let me tell you something. If we were ever going to vote to appropriate one penny towards the repair, replacement or something to do with a roof, it would be the period of March and April of 2018 because it's been the wetest, most snow laden, coldest, craziest spring we've ever encountered here. So, the time is now. this talk fascinating about water diversion and about the ancient Egyptians and Romans and all of that. I get that. However, we're here to make hard decisions. Sometimes they're costly decisions and

082the time is now. And if we walk out of this room on any night and we say something like we're putting off putting a roof over the head of a bunch of what's that K through six in staff members and risking, you know, when a roof is bad, we all have bad roofs. We get them replaced. You know, we all go to the last minute and then something happens that we go, whoa, I got to get the roofer in here. I'm not willing to take that chance with students and staff and parents passing through that building. So, I'll be voting no against this amendment. And enough already. Let's move on. >> Any other discussion? >> Just really to piggyback off of what some of my other colleagues said, I think this issue's been known about

083for several years. We could have done the bomb. we could have done something about it and we had a little bit more time, but anyone that's ever had a leaky roof in their house knows that at any time that can that can buckle and that can give and we're beyond the time now to make a good decision about this to make sorry to make a longterm decision about this. Um, it really does I mean it needs to happen now and we keep talking about student safety and emotional wellbeing or their physical wellbeing. I mean I think you know this is a point blank example of something that we waited already too long on. What are we going to what are we going to wait for in case something catastrophic happens? It's not worth the risk

084to me as a parent or a board member. >> Barbara, um I have Mr. Kelly here. Um he might want to give us a little insight, but it's also important to recognize the fact that um we've been able to keep that that roof healthy up until last year. Um you know, we had um a lot of repairs that were done. Um they weren't they were reactive. Absolutely. But um we felt that there were other things that were more important at Ma Macken and the high school because of some of the um the water seepage. But um this year Maple Road has just gone right over the edge and Mr. Kelly can probably give us a little bit more insight. >> Mr. President, may I ask to pull a question and see where the board is

085on this and then maybe talk to Mr. Kelly? I mean, I think we're all in agreement and we've all heard and some people have actually gone there in ways that the the roof is in bad shape and needs to be fixed. >> Question, but he can ask for it to be called the rest of the court. >> I I I'll be glad to let Chris talk because maybe people need to maybe the public needs to hear. >> I I would just like to say something before you you speak. I also went through the the Maple Road School with you and you're right, what they came up with is ingenious. However, as a parent, and I'm not talking as a board member, seeing garbage cans in little corners of rooms with these long tubes coming down,

086it looks like we're they're in a spaceship situation. And I so felt for that autism autistic class was what to to take a autistic child out of their setting for one day throws them off. We took them out for three weeks. We did a disservice to how many children are in that class. I realized it had to be done. I was not part of the former boards, but clearly cra past boards knew there was an issue with the Maple Road roof and had different times where they could have addressed it through a referendum. For whatever reason, they chose not to. And in conversations with you, Mr. Drew, you have told me that it was that that there was some discussion, but they weren't sure about the building staying open. So they chose to keep it

087to to take it off of the referendum. So I think we are now in a position where they made their decision and we have to make our decision and we have and I agree with you financially. I would love to say let's put it out to bond because that would save us a lot of money. But in good conscience, I can't say that we're going to go a whole another year with that building and that we're going to sit by and not have a major problem and then we're going to go and put it out for a referendum and then everybody's going to run out and vote for it and then we're maybe going to get it done next summer so that the Maple Road parents and their children can have that roof leaking again

088and they can have those that that whole setup. I I can't vote for it that way. I don't feel like it's even possible. I will not support the amendment. Now, Mr. Kelly, I'll be glad to let you speak about the roof itself. >> Thank you. Uh I can't say whether it's been leaking eight years or whether it's two years, but I've been here less than a year. I've had staff on that roof all through last fall, all through the winter, patching the holes as we find them, patching cracks and seams. And I called in TMCO roofing, who is a national roofing and building envelope contractor. They did a roofing analysis. There are bubbles in the spray foam roof that indicate trapped moisture. The problem with water is it's insidious. You could have a leak and

089it'll show up 50 yards away because it'll travel to a point where it can come in the building. So you could have a leak in a classroom and go up on the roof above that classroom and there's nothing there. And you could spend a day on that roof patching hole. I don't hold myself out to be a roofing expert, which is why I called in a roofing expert and I tend to take their advice and based on my own observations, that's why I recommended it. >> Thank you. >> Did they feel that there could be any temporary measure made >> in certain areas of the roof? The roof was actually split into four different sections. Uh the two largest sections which we're looking to do in this budget, the 900,000 were slated for immediate replacement.

090The others were within 3 years. So, and that's why we're just doing the two sections and we when hopefully we put it out the bid, the other two will go in as an ad alternate. Now, these numbers are just budget numbers. The bids could come in lower. So, thank you. You're welcome. >> I'm I'm going to call the question and um I need um >> on the amendment. We have a second. So, um it's a roll call, right? >> Mr. Bailey, >> no. >> Mr. Sidowitz, >> yes. >> Mr. Drew, >> yes. >> Mrs. Dwire, >> no. >> Mrs. Fritz, >> no. >> Mr. Gorino, >> no. >> Mr. Yuber, >> yes. >> Mrs. Van Djk. No >> motion fails. >> So the original motion is back up. >> Okay. So now we're now we're

091beginning to discuss the budget. There any other discussion on the budget itself? >> Mr. J. Um, I would like to make an amendment to remove the second $100,000 from the budget uh to augment the $100,000 that was approved originally for the fieldhouse. Do you mind passing this around? >> Yeah. >> Uh, I did some uh research. Uh we we were told we weren't going to be able to see those of us not on budget and finance, we weren't going to be able to see the plans or anything like that. So I was just interested what can you get >> Wait a minute. Stop right there. >> What is What is the exact motion that you want to make >> to remove the second $100,000 to finance the fieldhouse? We have $100,000 already to finance the

092fieldhouse. I don't want to spend another 100,000. Who who told you you couldn't see the plans for the fieldhouse? >> We discussed that in a public meeting. >> We discussed that. No one could see the the plans for the fieldhouse unless >> that was what was said. >> Okay. Well, >> I don't recall. I don't recall that. Does any other board member recall that? >> Doesn't matter. We We won't discuss it unless there's a second anyhow. So, >> I'll second it. >> There you go. >> Okay. So, it's an amendment that you want to take the $100,000 out of the budget to fund the second part of the project. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Uh discussion on that. >> What I'm passing around, I was interested to find out what can you get in in

093this area for $100,000 because at the time we sort of thought, well, that ought to be okay. Um, in in general, you could get, for example, here here's some nice pictures of of actual buildings that have been put on the properties by schools in New Jersey, New York, Connecticut. What I'm passing around is a plan for manufactured office space that is less than $100,000. It's 48x60, which includes a huge room, 24x60. Uh, several storage rooms, a restroom, could have a separate area for officials, a kitchen, and and the whole thought, if you only own the land, you can put a manufactured building on. That's that's a huge building. It's probably more I don't know because I haven't seen it, but it's probably more than we're proposing to put in for for 200,000. So, we get

094changing space, storage for tackling dumbly, so on and so forth. I just don't think that personally we ought to spend another $100,000. [Applause] [Music] >> It it it was it was in two phases that I believe. How did we do the >> right last year? Um, we were in transition with our buildings and grounds. um person. >> So um I had asked them to get me a proposal for a um modular unit to replace the existing fieldhouse which um he did and we put $100,000 into the budget. Um as it turns out that did not include any um foundation work. Um it didn't include the uh submitts to the Department of Education. um it didn't uh which which we need an architect for. So there were some additional costs that were associated with it. Uh

095as Mr. Kelly had said earlier, you know, you you put a a budget number in the the budget, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to end up spending the entire thing. So that um uh we were fortunate um I thought we were going to have to do um some some borings um to do um some for the for the footings and foundations. One of the problems that we have with the current house is that there is no foundation to it. There's no footings to it. It's on cinder block. So, um we were a little concerned initially that we were going to have to pay for a a geotechnical um borings, but um they determined that we weren't going to need those, but um we need to put a a foundation in there. We

096do do need to put um a slab and that and that does have some cost to it. Mr. Kelly can elaborate a little bit more if anyone has a question because he's been working in concert with our architect. >> Did Mr. You were going to have >> No, you finish what you're saying. >> I'll go a matter. >> Okay. Um I asked for the uh plans and estimates with regard to the fieldhouse. I was told that they're on the website. Couldn't find any plans, but I did find the estimate. >> You asked me for the cost estimate. No, if you look at the email, it's called it's plans and estimate. Um, and so I my understanding is it's essentially a rectangular building uh for use by athletes for various, you know, training exercises particularly in

097winter and and things like that. Maybe some bathrooms and things. Okay. >> It's not just athletes though, right? >> Uses the building color. But >> I'm essentially trying to get it what the building's going to be, you know, going to be. It's essentially a square box. with room to do various things in it. Okay. >> Um I looked at the estimate. The estimate comes out to 193,436 thou 40 $436. That's enough money to build a house. Okay. We're building a box. >> Well, it's going to everything, right? So, and there are >> for something like this, a prefab uh is probably better in various ways. One, it's a lot cheaper. Two, it's known in the construction industry that prefabs because they use patterns to build the various parts, they're actually better built and more secure

098when they put them together than a stick built house. Okay. Um, I understand from Mr. Drew that there are prefabs that are pre-approved by the department of education so you don't have to pay the architectural fee and uh all that's my feeling on on that. >> Thank you. Is there any other discussion on the amendment? >> For those buildings is the intent the people in the districts that are using those that they're that's their permanent structure or are they while they're building other things? if I'm wrong that this >> this is a prefab >> the the bid documents the bid documents are for a pre-fabricated building but this is not a temporary classroom space two different things >> Mr. prevail. >> Yeah, that's what I said. Bad news or good news considering your perspective. But

099I will tell my colleagues and anybody else here who wants to listen. I've been on just about every high school football field in North Jersey and most of New Jersey for that matter. And guess what? I've never changed in or guess what I've never seen a team uh home team change in. or guess what I've never seen, god forbid, when there's a situation where somebody's injured and they have to be taken to a a place before they're transported out of there by ambulance, etc. It's some type of a modular prefab structure. Now, again, enough already. What we did was for 30 years. That's what those things are. Glorified trailers. We made it. But now it's time. And let's build something that will outlast all of us in this room. Sort of what they did. He

100didn't do it, but he knows what they did in Butler. And why not build something that's substantial, can withstand all the stuff that goes on around here, and can last for a generation. Furthermore, I want to go further and immediately redo and upgrade the restroom facility, you know, in a place like West Milford. >> Mhm. >> That is abs actually like our guard state arts center. There's a lot of stuff that goes on up there. Marquee events, graduation, now we're back to Fourth of July, athletic events. It's a happy place for people. Let's give the people what they want. A nice building, a nice ADA accessible, you know, 2018 restroom facility. We have a sewer line there. So, we got that going for us. And enough of this already. And furthermore, I don't know where

101this is all going, but are we going to like bring up every capital improvement project in the 2018 budget for the duration of this night? Cuz we'll have to come back tomorrow. [Music] >> Okay. Um, no. Okay. I'm going to give you one more. >> Well, I'm allowed to have one more. Um >> Oh. All right. Okay. >> Yes. Robert Schules. Um, the by >> the um two points. One, I agree with, believe it or not, agree with Bailey about the bathrooms. >> Okay. >> I blew up one of our proposals to be respectful. >> Did I hear Bailey or Mr. >> All right, come on. >> Oh, come on. What? >> Okay. >> I mean, I like that term, Bailey. I pull a lot worse. You know what I'm saying? >> Mr. Get it.

102>> All right. And the second point is I agree with Mr. really about building a substantial good structure and like I said industry the industry knows that the prefab buildings with p they make the parts with patterns so that they're all correct and exactly you know angled properly and put together properly they're actually better construction than stick built more expensive stick build structures >> but that's what it is >> we just heard that plans are for >> you just said that right >> Chris is that what it is >> yes this is a pre building that's being specked out by the architect They truck it in in two sections, >> but it wouldn't be in the architect's best interest to spec out a building that's already been approved by the the Department of Education so

103that they don't need to be paid. >> I I like I I I think it's time to call a question. Uh roll call >> On the amendment on the amendment, >> the $100,000 amendment, >> Mr. Bailey, >> Mr. Sidowitz, >> yes. >> Mr. Drew, >> yes. >> Mrs. Dwire, >> no. >> Mrs. Fritz, >> no. >> Mr. Gorino, >> no. >> Mr. Yuber, >> yes. >> Mrs. Van Dyk, >> no. >> Motion fails. >> So, now we're back to the original >> original budget >> of the budget. Okay, I have I have picked up on some things and forgive me, I'm not an accountant. All right, this is not small. Um, but I picked up on a couple of things I have questions about. >> Tell me where you are. >> Um, >> you weren't

104able to get a hold of Mrs. Francisco over the last few days. >> No, I I didn't try. I was busy. >> I kind of figured out. Okay. >> All right. So uh under education office uh it has it shows and I think this is what Mr. Foody was referring to. Um it shows staff development reduction of 51.02%. Um that's one thing and then the other thing under the same section is an overall budget decrease of 28.42% 42% on education spending for I believe this is all the stuff that supports the programs. Am I wrong? >> Well, we saw in the budget pres presentation cut because we haven't had because our revenues have diminished. >> So, I'm correct. There's a 28.5% reduction in education funding to support the programs. >> Not necessarily. We could be

105using title money for that. And is the rumor I heard that we're not going to be doing the um the summer reading program for students that are having difficulty with that is I heard that that's going away. Am I >> That's completely false. >> Great. That's what I wanted to hear. Thank you. >> That's supported that's funded through federal federal grant money. That's not something >> fantastic anywhere in this. >> I'm very happy to hear that that was a bad rumor. Okay. Super. So those two things I have a problem with that in a budget where we're buying teachers doing field houses and and things like that that don't affect actual academic education. I I'm I don't I this is not acceptable to me. Um all right. So that obviously is something that I I

106don't know that you can we can solve tonight. >> I just want to address one thing. um the reduction in uh professional development as the educational professionals. Do you feel that the number that's in there is sufficient for the coming year? >> We feel let's see amount we can afford in this budget. I think the budget would be better with more money, but we'd have to go back build a time machine and increase the budget last year and the year before. So those 0% tax levy increases the previous two years are affecting this budget and will affect next year's budget. So it's the only way to balance the budget is to lower spending. So the you know the total is $49,600 roughly. So roughly $50,000 on a on the budget as a percentage. What does

107that equal the reduction? Is that like a tenth of a percent? >> Could you give me an account number there on the left? >> If you um I just went to the total that >> Oh, >> Glenn was mentioning. So, there's a 28% reduction >> reduction >> up here >> where >> if you go to education office >> Oh, you're going to bottom line. >> Okay. The the total the total >> you're saying 50,000 75 million debt, >> right? >> It's like about a tenth of a percent I'm thinking. So, so through the through the professional development budget, obviously uh as director of education, would I love to quadruple that? Absolutely. However, um I presented in the um budget presentation about our three three year year three of our five-year plan for readers writers workshop

108training. In year three, uh we have the most significant amount of training um involved in that because we have the you know the way it worked is we trade train two grade levels at a time and once we finish in one year the year the group that finished the previous year we carry them another year for uh an abbreviated amount of days. So year three is the peak of uh the process with the amount the total amount of staff members being trained at the highest. Um, this budget supports that. So, we have that. That was a plan. We laid that plan out 3 years ago. We we built the 5-year plan. Um, in discussions with Barbara, we have the money uh in the existing proposed budget to support that to support that plan. Um what

109we ended up having was a um a great change and that I mentioned uh earlier that we we're no longer using a private contractor who was disconnected from a publisher to do our math training that we've been involved in. So the 5-year plan for our math training also still exists. However, we had a significant decrease in the expenses for the training as well as materials using the go math publisher, which I think in in the big picture is is going to be more supportive. That actually was a cost savings than the independent uh vendor that we were using. We also have the ability uh which is something I've done over the the last three years was to supplement our district um professional development local budget with title two funds. Title two is a um a

110code of our federal grant, a portion of our federal grant that is uh aimed at supporting professional development. We use it for a variety of of purposes. We use title two money for our Orton training or Gillingham training where we sent see one in the room. Um we've sent a number of staff members out. We've got also it's another I I like using three-year plans. I apologize if I overdo it. Um, we've got a three-year plan to get a significant amount of staff members trained in Orton Gillingham, which is also something supported through this budget as well as our collaboration with the use of our title two funds. If there is an area that could suffer from the use of title two funds, it's that I will have uh a less ability to send out

111staff members to their requests. So we have a process. We have a district goal. We have district goals that we support with our professional development. We also have been very generous in our staff members personal requests to support their PDP goals. So we have PDP goals that every individual teacher has and they'll reach out and say, "I saw a great workshop at Ruckers on readers and writers workshop training." Um those are things that are not necessarily part of our district provided professional development but it supports supplements. So we if there's any area that will have uh less ability it's going to be in the the granting of those personal requests that are not necessarily part of our district plan. Um I've been very generous with those over the years. I think previous administrations we didn't

112have as much of that um ability and that that's an area that um you know that could be could be less but as far as supporting our district goals I'm comfortable what I want if it was up to a million I'd take a million but um I know that's not reasonable and and and I know that we have to make things because that'll make >> the things better for the students >> but we were also fiscally responsible this year because we partnered even on in in the Orton thing. Mr. Novak um actually through his connection at Ringwood partnered with Ringwood for Orton Gillingham training and we were able to train three teachers for the price that we originally thought we were going to only train one. So that also is why you may see a

113reduction in the cost because we were able to you know use our funds from this year to basically >> and we're hoping to host that in the future collaborating with further other districts coming to us which would save us uh even even further >> Mr. Novak a question. >> Sure. >> Okay. Um, Dan, when you do I'm ju I'm just curious. I just I'm just curious about this. When you do data analysis, um, isn't that considered professional development where teachers meet after school? So, it's at no cost to the district where they're setting objectives and benchmarks for kids. >> Sure. Well, that we have that structure in place. the second uh meeting of every month is a is dedicated for a professional learning community as well as um we know our staff they they don't

114just stick around for only the required PLC time. They're also meeting all the time to to look at these things. So yeah, that that's a component of it and it supports our it supports our goals and their and their personal professional development goals. >> So the data analysis is done by our own staff. >> Correct. >> Thank you. Any other questions about the Oh, Nicole overall. Um, you know, the fact that we're at this point picking apart the budget, you know, with with such scrutiny is a little frustrating because I feel like we've had these convers, you know, we're we're trying to find band-aids for for kids sitting in a school with garbage cans in the hall with moldy water dripping out of them. I mean, at what point, you know, do we have to

115say we we can't squeeze a cow ride anymore? I mean, what we're talking about is $10 a month. And I think the administration is doing everything they can to spread that out across curriculum. I mean, everything that's been presented. We're looking at the phonics programs. We're looking at the math programs, the things that we've been challenging them to do for the past year, and they're doing it, but they don't they don't have unlimited funds. And so to your point, they can't they can't put all that money in professional development. They're doing the the areas that they think are the highest priority for right now. I mean, I get that there are people that, you know, maybe don't have that vested interest and don't have kids in the schools anymore, but there's, you know, the parents

116of 3,400 kids out there that want to see these schools thriving, and we can't do that with the 0% increase year after year after year. I mean, we're it's it's going to blow up. It's like any home budget. you can only get by for so long on, you know, no no um extra income or extra word, disposable income every month. At some point, something's going to break or something's going to burst or, you know, there's going to be something else that you want to do to improve the value and improve the home. It's no different with this situation. And I think we're we're we're really pushing very hard when they've worked really hard to to be as reasonable as possible. I'm going to I'm going to call it and I'm not going to pull the

117question for another bit. But some of this, we have our preliminary budget meeting and we didn't do this. We didn't even no one even looked at the budget book or mentioned these items during the preliminary budget. And once we said it, now here we are. We're doing this. >> I did ask a lot of questions and we did cancel a meeting that we did intend to do this at. >> Okay. But just to just to answer my colleague, historically, we've had boards in the past that raise taxes, raise taxes, raise taxes when it really wasn't needed. So, we actually have the money and and I I know Barbara's really good at scrolling away a little here and a little there and a little there until it adds up to a big nut. Okay. So, I

118believe the money's there. >> Okay. So, >> that's just my answer. That's just my answer to, you know, uh, what was just said. That's the end of that as far as unless somebody else has something to say. >> Does anybody else have any other questions? >> Cut the budget. >> I have something more specific, >> but go Steve. Uh, the question is have some comments I'd like to make if you don't mind. um when one looks at something like the 30 or 20 hot markets in the state of New Jersey and it it it looks really great. There are places in this state where people are getting in bidding wars to buy houses and they're building new businesses and restaurants and so on and so forth. And when you look at them all, they all

119have one characteristic in common. They have good schools. I think that there's no question and and it's not just the parents of the kids. Everybody in this town wants better schools. If we have better schools, we'll have more people who want to move in. We'll sell our houses for higher prices. I looked at and and we need to be mindful of where this fits in, not just in education, but we are the biggest part of the budget for West Milford. 55% of the tax bill is is is the education system. We have responsibility to more than just just education, but also to the town. 5 years ago, there was 2 years of inventory of houses on the market between homes for sale and and foreclosures. that has been reduced, but we have uh uh basically

120stopped reducing our inventory. We're selling houses again. That's good. At the current point in time, in the two primary zip codes, there are 621 houses that are either for sale or in foreclosure. Based on the rate at which we sell houses, that's about 7 months of inventory, which is still pretty high. At the end of the day, that's a cold market. The single best thing we can do to imp improve West Milford, the the housing market, and frankly the future of the town, is to do everything we can to improve education. And I really am pleased that you guys are are moving in that direction. It's taking longer than than I would like. And I know that Barbara does a good job of putting these these budgets together, but it really is important to to

121to get this right, to not waste money, a half a million dollars from the state of New Jersey. Maybe, you know, and I understand maybe we can't wait, but boy, I hate the thought of just throwing that money away. What I can tell you is that, and and we don't necessarily think about this, but this has an impact on business. We have 26,000 people in West Milford. And we have had 26,000 people 10 years ago, 20 years ago, and 30 years ago. We have no growth. At the current point in time, we can say, well, the Highlands Act won't let us have any more growth, but we didn't have any growth before the Highlands Act. And we like that. We like the open spaces and the trees and so on and so forth. That's the

122way it is. We've got 10,000 properties and and that's all we've got. We're not going to get more. We've had 10,000 properties and a little less for 30 years. That's the residential properties and and the commercial properties. And lots of people say we need more ratables. And I agree, we do need more ratables. But the reality is that with the property taxes we have, it increases rent and property taxes and so on and so forth. And I I think a lot of people know this, but here's some businesses that have closed in the last two years. J&P Sears, Joey's Restaurant, The Huntsman, Uncle Chubbies, Valley View Pub, Lakeland Bay. The property taxes are so where we want to attract more ratables, we're having exactly the opposite. We're pushing them away. Spending our money effectively on

123education is it means means the world to the future of West Milford. Not just the parents, but the but the retired people, the businesses, everybody. We really have to do everything we can to use the money effectively to improve education. That that's the goal. But there's a there's a bigger purpose, not just, you know, a few kids here. We really have to do a good job for this town. So, I' I' I'd like us to continue to be cognizant of how important it is. Taxes are are uh taxes actually matter. I looked at over the period of time and these are numbers that I got from the town from 2000 to taxes went up 6.92% per year per year almost 7% per year 10 years in a row. During that same period of time inflation

124was slightly less than 2%. And during that same period of time, we actually had a decline in enrollment. You would think that with a decline in enrollment that we ought to be able and and this is back to we've 26,000 people. That's it. That's all we've had for 30 years. And you would think that with a decline >> have more than that because the watershed, correct? I just want I I don't want I don't want it out there that the school is driving people out of town. No, that's not the reason for the decline in the >> ownership property and you can't build anywhere. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I just want to be clear on that for >> it's it's you know >> didn't make any difference. $100 million money's all spent. Not the not

125one iota of increase. >> I can't even find that. >> Ray, you you did have something. >> Yeah. So, um I know we always have good conversation when you cited the real estate. >> Where did that information come from? >> Zillow. >> Okay. >> You saw me do it right there. >> I So, I I thought it was Zillow. So, because of the the the business that I'm in, I say subscribe. I'll site my source so I don't get in trouble. um atu.com they are a real estate valuation company and they they do that in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware um I even think some parts of New York now for West Milford uh Township the the month supply so far through this year um so the quarter is 4.5 month supply not seven so that's

126the valuation now I will also say to Steve's point like I I agree agree with regard to the housing, right? Pate County as a whole is at 3.8. So, I do think West Milford has some work to do, but I just want to make sure that people realize that homes are probably selling a little bit quicker than what they thought and surely quicker than they were back in, you know, 2010. We know what the market was like. >> Everything was slow down. >> So, >> and I'll be happy to share with you. >> No, it's great. >> It's great stuff. our kindergarten enrollment. We're projecting an increase this year from the last couple years. So we're at 199 now last year when our committee is called >> just uh to clarify what Mr. Garino was

127saying, our kindergarten enrollment this year is trending upward. We're at 199 now on April 24th. The last few years at this time we've been around 180. So, uh, we should pick up a certain number of, uh, we'll pick up more students between now and Labor Day weekend. So, >> so we are looking, you know, that's how it starts with kindergarten, but you know, >> did you have did anybody else have any discussion about the budget? >> All right, Mr. Uro. >> Okay, this ought to go quick. Good. >> Uh, question for Barbara. Did we didn't we uh put in the fence for the uh Marshall Hill Field last year? >> I believe that we did do something, but something else has to be replaced. What was it? Um >> what was the question? >> Marshall

128Hill Field. Remember we did some work on it before you got here. Um >> the outfield fence was already replaced. This is in this year's budget to score the fencing down the first and third baseline and a new back stop. >> So, it's the lower field, >> the field behind Marshall Hill, >> right? Well, the in the budget it says repair replace fence at upper field. >> It's the only field at Marshall Hill. >> Okay. So, that's still accurate, >> correct? >> Okay. >> The other question I have, and it's on the same page, operations two and three, pages two and three. Um, there's a a line item that says field turf maintenance and lighting repair, $6,500. And then there's another line item that says relamp turf field lights 6675, which sounds an awful lot

129like the same thing. Um, >> one is for uh the company to come out, they do the grooming of the field, they replace the rubber pellets, and the other is for the lighting. One is for turf maintenance. One is for lighting at the turf field to relamp all of the exterior lights. >> Mhm. >> Now I thought that that was going to be in the LGA >> the lights. Am I wrong? >> No, that would be >> a follow, >> right? Let them know. Yeah. >> All right. So should that stay in? But understand that you still need to fund these things. >> You're going to get you're going to save your money on the energy savings come up with some money. And if once the report comes back from the LGA if we find

130that it's more beneficial, I mean these things are not going to happen tomorrow. It's our hope that we'll have that report before we have to do any of these projects. So if we find that it's a cost savings, >> then those projects won't get done. That money drops into fund balance next year >> different >> or you're going to have money to do these things in case they don't fit into an EIP because there's constrictions on what's going to fit into it and what's not. You know, we looked into whether the roof at Maple Road is going to fit into it. There's a possibility, but we don't know 100%. But there might be other alternatives that we can use to to be cost to to get some cost savings. We're looking into all those things.

131But if those opportunities come up, then at least we'll have the money to be able to proceed. >> Terry, as a point of the voter, I would like to call the question. >> Okay, we'll call the question and the discussion. Uh it's this is for the budget now. We have no amendment on the table. Correct. Everything is this is the budget now. >> This is just the motion. There's >> number one. >> Mrs. Francisco call a roll call. >> Mrs. Dwer. >> Yes. >> Mr. Sidowitz. >> No. >> Mr. Yuber. >> No. >> Mr. Drew. >> No. >> Mr. Guino? >> Yes. >> Mr. Bailey? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Fritz? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Van Dyke? >> Yes. letters 2 through 13 under please >> can I choose 13 >> I need a second >>

132I'm sorry >> I was >> any discussion on those motions Mr. So, I I just had a u a question about number 11. Um we're talking about um training and travel related expenditures for board trustees. We all do this as volunteers. We spend uh a lot of time. So, I can appreciate why that's in there. But I also know that teachers I think they get $200 to outfit their classroom over the course of the year. And I also know >> Not from the district, right? Not from the district. Anything from the And I also know that they there are many teachers in the district that spend three, four, five times that over the course of the year um out of their own pocket to help the children in their classroom because they feel it's the

133right thing to do. So, I just feel like those kinds of things um maybe those are things that we could forego and and >> yeah, >> maybe that's money that could go back. >> Yeah. >> And I know I've talked to some others. >> That's everybody's prerogative. >> Any other discussions on the motions? Mr. Goober. First, I'd like to thank um uh Thomas Francisco and Associates for donation of the photography lighting >> for our high school TV, science, photography, and theater programs. Thank you very much to them. Um and I have um a couple school on lockdown uh immediately if they sense a threat. Moreover, the technology is used also by the police department. So if a teacher sees a threat, he or she can place the school on lockdown and everybody in the school

134immediately goes on lockdown and a message is sent simultaneously to the local police department so they respond. So it really shaves a lot of response time off of the traditional method of putting the school in lockdown where a staff member would call the office, the principal would get on the PA system. So this really cuts uh into that a little bit. So, the amount is not to exceed $20,000. It's a fee per staff member. So, when we get our official headcount uh for next year, uh it most likely will come in under $20,000. And this is something that we will use starting September. Number six, um there's a almost $15,000 um architectural fee with regard to the bleachers. Is that a a Department of Education requirement? >> Because I thought those came in, >> you

135know, pre-designed. >> Whenever you do any kind of change to any of your buildings, your facilities, you have to send plans down to the Department of Education and you have to have a licensed architect do that because they have to be created by >> the manufacturer doesn't provide the plans. >> It is a Department of Ed requirement. when you're talking about modulated buildings and prefab buildings, there's a special set of requirements that need to be fulfilled when you set the plans down to the state. So, it does require drawings and uh utility information and that kind of thing that would have to be sight specific. It wouldn't just be in a in a package from the manufacturer. It is required. >> Okay. Any other discussion? Roll call. Mrs. Francisco. >> Yes. Mr. Sus, >> yes.

136>> Mr. Yuber, >> yes. >> Mr. Drew, >> uh, abstain on item 11 and, uh, yes to the remainder. >> Mr. Gino, >> yes. >> Mr. Bailey, >> yes. >> Mrs. Fritz, >> yes. >> Mrs. Van Dyke, >> yes. >> Item number 14 under budget and finance, please. Second. >> Any discussion? Roll call. Mr. Sidowitz, >> yes. >> Mr. Bino, >> yes. >> Mrs. Fritz, >> yes. >> Mrs. Dwire, >> yes. Mr. Yuber, >> abstain. >> Mr. Bailey, >> yes. >> Mr. Drew, >> uh, abstain on uh, >> I travel to the workshop and yes to the remainder. >> Mrs. Van, >> yes. >> To move item number 15 on your budget and finance, please. >> Second. Discussion Mrs. Francisco >> Mr. Bailey >> yes >> Mr. Sidowitz >> yes >> Mrs. Fritz >> Mr.

137Marino >> abstain >> Mr. Drew >> yes >> Mrs. Wer yes Mr. Yuber >> yes >> Mrs. Van Dyke, >> I abstain. >> Item number 16, under budget and finance, please. >> Thank you. >> Discussion. >> Mrs. Francisco. [Music] >> Mr. Bailey. >> Yes. >> Mr. Gino. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Dwire. >> Yes. >> Mr. Caitz. >> Yes. >> Mr. Yuber. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Chris. >> Yes. >> Mr. Drew. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Bendley. >> Yes. to move item number 17 and 18 under budget and finance please. >> Any discussion? Go ahead. Mrs. Francisco >> Mrs. Yes. >> Mrs. Fritz. >> Yes. >> Mr. Drew. >> Yes. >> Mr. Sid. >> Yes. >> Mr. Huber. >> Stain to 17. Yes. To 18. Mr. Green. >> Yes. >> Mr. Bailey. >> Yes. >> That in

138your report, Mr. Bailey. Okay. Personnel, student affairs. Um, >> will you take it, Will? I would like to move items 1 through 50 on the personel dispute. Second [Music] >> discussion. >> Uh I'd like to hold 13 and 14 for after executive session. 13. [Music] And amongst these, we're pretty much um renewing everybody in the district. I have a question for um Dr. Anamone. By voting on these, are we in effect giving anyone tenure? >> It shows in so if so, who? >> It's on the attachment. There's a little fast asterisk next to the >> if you look at the yellow sheet ones are receiving 10. >> So that plus I think the in there's an aster getting 10 >> the budget it's definitely an impact. Any other discussion >> changed on the >> Mr.

139Drew has real briefly. It is indeed unfortunate to lose Miss Fanny as supervisor. >> Very true. >> She was doing today. >> There should be a plus security. Yeah. >> Um any other discussion under personnel? >> I I just I there are a number of um employees on here that are retiring. >> Oh yeah, I'm sorry. >> Um many people who I have to say have been friends and known throughout the years and I just wish them all well. I know that we will get to see them at our regular retirement ceremony, but the district is definitely losing a lot of very good teachers and um I wish them well because they're going to be retiring, but we definitely will be missing many many people on this list. So, um Okay. >> Yeah, I'm sorry.

140I'd like also like to hold We got quite a list here on one motion. So, I'd also like to hold number 45 after executive session. Just looking for information on these things. >> Yeah, that's >> okay. Okay. Any other discussion? >> Okay. Mrs. Francisca, Mr. Bailey. >> Yes. >> Mr. Gino. >> Uh, yes to all except for uh 27 and 31. I'll abstain. >> Mr. Hubert. >> Uh, come back to me, please. >> Mr. Sidowitz. >> Yes. >> Mr. Drew. >> Yes. >> Mrs. It is a big one. >> Oh my goodness. Um, >> there's somebody agreeing with I was >> yes to every motion except I will abstain on 2730 31 39 43 and 49 because it's all chosen employee ID number >> I would like to move it 516 on the hand as

141a yes. [Music] >> Were we coming back to you? >> Yeah. Yeah. I told her I put me down as a yes. >> I'm sorry. What was the motion for? >> 53 >> 51 to 53. >> Okay. The blue one. >> Thank you. >> Will moved it. Is there a second, Mr. Bale? Any discussion >> here again? Two more employees that are retiring. >> Mhm. >> Been with us a very long time. >> Oh yeah. >> Okay. Um okay. >> No discussion. Mrs. Francisco. >> Mr. Bailey. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Fritz. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. Sidowitz. >> Yes. >> Mr. Drew. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Dwire. Yes, Mr. Bino. >> Yes, >> Mr. Okay. >> Should I move any of >> both? >> We did the personnel. >> Those are after

142we come out of executive session. >> Yeah. >> Mrs. Dwer, education. I'd like to revise 1 through 12 on a >> second discussion. >> Mr. Yubert. >> Kudos on number five to the administration. Conceptual physics automotive three special products projects. Great ideas. Great ideas, guys. >> Um and I think you explained my other question earlier. Thank you. Any other discussion? Mrs. Francisco. >> Mrs. Dwer. >> Yes. Mr. Mr. Green. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Mr. Uber. >> Yes. >> Mr. Fritz. >> Yes. >> Mr. Sits. >> Yes. >> Mr. Bailey. >> Yes. >> Mr. Drew. >> Yes. >> Mrs. So, we need Can we do policy before executive session? Okay, >> Mr. Garina. >> So, >> policy. >> Yeah, I'd like to uh make the motion to approve one and two with regard to policy. >>

143Discussion. Okay, I've got it organized this week. >> I see that. >> All right, everybody got a handout. I just have to find mine. Um, basically what the handout is is after last meeting spoke to Mr. Borino who asked the administration to get a copy of the um the revised uh substance abuse policy and regulation and um I see that they they did put in one of the very small suggestion I had about the policy. So there's no discussion on that. >> Um everybody saw it in their packet I assume. >> Mhm. >> Um on the regulation I have some things in here. I really didn't change what was there so much as added to it. Um, and there's some reasons I'm being on the CASA committee. This is kind of near and dear to

144my heart now. Okay. I've learned an awful lot from the folks that go to those meetings. And one of the things that I saw in the regulation was that we were waiting until the third offense on drug possession or drug uh you know paraphern whatever defense it was for there to be any kind of an intervention um with the parents formally. Uh so what I did is I felt that if a kid's getting caught even on the first offense, the chances are he's been using drugs or she for numerous times, okay? In order to get caught. They don't get caught on the first try. Okay? So on the second offense or the third offense, they're using a lot because if they get caught that many times, you know that there's a habit going on. So

145my feeling was is that there ought to be an intervention for the safety of the children, the safety of the other students as well that brings the parents, the administration together to help the kid. All right. Um you can see on the cover page, it was an email that I sent to uh Mr. Gorino uh with this um and it kind of explains the reasoning behind it. So if you look through [Music] you'll see um sections where it says after the superintendent's option a meeting with the superintendent and principal will be held uh with the student and parents to develop a behavioral and drug treatment related contract. Okay, that's just added in instead of it being only on the third offense, it's added into the first and second as well so that the school can

146help start a dialogue with the family to get the kid help. Okay, that I think is the most important change in here that I'm asking for. Um, I added one of the other changes. I added some uh uh some formatting. There was there were paragraphs without numbers or letters. I added some formatting so um so that it's easier to refer to things. It's a 21page regulation. Um that's the least important thing in here. Um I added uh just some other things. I noticed being a lawyer, I noticed that there were some things in here that I thought parents and lawyers could pick apart. So, I added a definition um uh a definition for parent re-entry conference which I basically took from later on in the regulation. It was actually the language that was already used

147in there. I just put it forward and made it into a definition. Um and um I added in the beginning some clarifications uh on if you look on page two number seven you'll see some clarifications. I felt that it was a little vague on some things that again parents could pick apart and not you know the idea is for these policies to be something that a parent could look up and say I understand what is going to what the obligations are. So I clarified that language a bit you guys can see that. Um, anybody have a question about that paragraph? Cuz I fig I figured that one would be one that people would want to discuss. >> Randy, do you have a Sorry, Mr. Bailey. I wasn't looking at you. >> I know you're going

148to sleep. Everybody is here. I have a question for you, though. >> All right. Point of order. >> Excuse me. Point of order. >> Wait, wait. He He has the floor. Greg, I can't >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I I under possession the first and and the second and third offense, excuse me, um didn't have any mention of the extracurricular activities and stuff. So, I simply referenced it back to the first to the first offense. Okay. So, that they were repeated. >> I just >> Yeah. >> Well, let me ask let Mr. Bailey ask his question because he was next. That's why I did jump in the last one because it was Does anybody Okay, that's enough. >> Here is my my general question. >> Are we not voting on a second reading on this

149policy? >> Yes, it is a second reading. >> So then therefore, >> how in the >> could any normal board member process all these revisions to a second reading? This is a revision. This is such a substandard boardsmanship >> because coming out okay you're okay Greg you you can't let's keep it to the topic and not the board member. Okay. >> Yeah I know but >> I just want to add I I look through these revisions they're relatively benign. They're they're they're fine but on the agenda is the second reading and the policy committee really should look at these revisions and and make a recommendation on them. So I mean unless >> can we just can we just take can we take >> we could always well we don't either you would you you don't

150have the table you could approve the revised regulation >> that I might >> let let Joe finish say you could approve the revised regulation on the agenda and we could always go back with the policy committee and and make these changes if they >> the policy committee review these in April >> these changes >> well we looked at them we uh we made an adjustment a slight adjustment to the policy and The policy committee did not want to amend the regulation. >> Okay. Well, then then that's what the policy committee is for. >> Is are these more amendments to the to what was there? >> I'm looking at Mr. Sidowis raising his eyebrow. >> No, I mean I'm I'm no longer on the policy committ meeting. So, >> yeah, I didn't see an April meeting

151on the >> There there's minutes right here. If you want to look at the April minutes, you can look at them. They're in the packet. There was a there was a meeting there was a policy meeting following the budget and finance meeting at the last meeting. If >> if anybody doesn't like these changes, I would invite a meeting with the policy committee um Janice Garish who handles this stuff in the high school and maybe a couple of knowledgeable people from CASA to come and and and sit down and >> Well, Janice Garish wrote the policy. >> She did. Did you? Well, last meeting you I was told it was um uh uh uh a a revision by uh uh the company that we used. >> She she took she took that and she wor she

152took that and worked on it and she's the one who put all the hours into the policy. >> I understand. And she did a great a great job and and I looked at it and I I saw some things that like I said could be picked apart and being on the cas committee I I became aware that it's really important to have intervention. Okay. >> Okay. >> Um, so again, I would welcome anybody wanted to make a motion to table, have that meeting. >> I was going to say, I mean, the board, any board member obviously has the right to make a motion at table, but the motion that's on the agenda is the one that came out of the policy committee. >> I don't have an issue legally with any of uh Mr. Schuber's

153changes. They're all they're all fine and and be nine, but that's not what the policy committee recommended. If these changes are to be made, we should make them through the policy committee. I don't have an issue with them, but there's a procedure for it. Ray, did you have your hand up first? >> So, yeah, I was going to say >> yes. >> First off, >> because you're the general >> because of um some of our conversation with regard to this, I had requested even though it wasn't shown, I had requested that we have a meeting so we could discuss this. I think to Joe's point, some of our discussion was >> much of this might have been benign and we just kind of looked at that and felt like there are things in here that

154speak to it enough. Um, a and you know, I appreciate that we have good conversation and I want to continue that and I and hopefully we'll be able to do it quicker than than we did last time because we just got stuck >> with some it took us two and a half weeks to actually get the the piece of the document. So, um, that was what the delay was. >> Mr. Drew, you had your hands up. I'm sorry, but Mr. Garino was >> just quickly. I want to make sure I understand. Originally there was no scheduled policy meeting but then we held an ad hoc meeting without notifying the board. >> No no it was a committee meeting correct >> and originally there wasn't any business but then Mr. Guino got >> this the packet

155from Mr. Huber and he asked to have the policy meeting to follow budget and finance. The policy committee was already there. Mr. Sidowitz resigned from the policy committee. So that's why he was not there for the meeting. >> So now who's left on the pause committee? Ray and you. >> Yes. And and Terry stayed, I believe, to sit in because uh she was there for a prior meeting. So we had three people there. >> Okay. I I I'll volunteer to be on the policy committee if there's an in a vacancy. >> Well, we'll be happy to do that. >> So can Thank you. >> Is there any more discussion on the policy that's laid out? Okay. Mrs. Francis Bo, I got it. >> Mr. Yuber. >> Uh, yeah. Yes. >> Mrs. Dwire. >> Yes. >>

156Mr. Sidowitz. >> Yes. >> M. Mr. Drew. >> Yes. >> Mr. Gino. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Fritz. >> Yes. >> Mr. Bailey. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Van Djk. >> Yes. >> Okay. So now we need a motion for >> chose the committees. Okay. >> Okay. Committees. >> Mr. Glorino. Parks and >> so uh with parks and recck the uh we did not have a uh meeting last week. We prop postponed that because of council business. And uh we will be uh excited and happy to meet our uh new recreation director this coming uh Thursday. So it just we just missed it by a couple days. So we might have two reports for you uh next meeting. >> Good time for um good time for parks and wreck. His name for those of you that don't

157know is John Bolley. It's V O L I. Uh this is uh safety committee I think is going to meet in May, right? Is that >> Yeah, I think that's what Mark had sent an email. So there was no meeting for the month of April. Uh superintendent roundt >> I was not um the meeting it was SK the I think I think I might have given this report. uh the March meeting there were a few items discussed uh the uh kindergarten enrollment which was which was which you had given and um we talked about the voting >> one on funding at Mountain Lakes High School. >> You know I could tell you in just a second >> I'm going you said you're going. >> Yes. >> Oh I could tell you in just a second.

158Uh, New Jersey school boards. We were at the conference for the school boards. I gave that report in my president's report. Uh, Mr. Yuber, uh, legislative. >> I thought since this meeting was going to be long, we might forego that this this meeting. >> Okay, good. I didn't mean it that way, but I I >> We did. Yeah, I I know what you mean. Um, technology. Uh, Mrs. Fritz, anything? >> Uh, yeah, I do have an update. Um since we don't meet too regularly, we um we met on April 5th. Um and there's a lot of work being done around technology and infrastructure. It's one of the most exciting parts of things that we hear about on a daily basis, but it's a lot of um a lot of good work that's being done. Um

159a couple different areas in the area of security. We've coordinated with the police department to provide them access to school camera systems. U we're also looking into various vendors to get quotes to expand our security offering across the district. Um, was another program that we discussed. Um, is a federal program that subsidizes telecommunications and provides discounts to help schools and libraries in the US obtain affordable telecommunications and internet access. Um, we have used rate to bid on upgrades to our network. There's two different categories of funding with rate. Category one funding is uncapped and upon approval we get a 15% rebate. Uh we're using this funding for our data circuit which is the two internet lines we have coming into the district and our fiber which is the communication lines between the schools. Um the

160category 2 funding is capped and based per school which means that we get 50% of set amount per school as a rebate. Uh we're using this funding for our edge switches which are the devices at the ends of the lines that connect the schools together. um general technology. Uh we're looking at instituting a 10 gigabyte connection between the two sites at high at the high school and Marshall Hill. Uh which is an increase over the 1 GBTE that we currently have. Looking at servers installed at each location that will provide redundancy and accessibility which creates a more resilient network. We're also investigating two different options um for the server upgrades and will present those at a later date. uh decisions on voice voice over IP are pending the finalization of some of these other infrastructure

161changes and we're also uh researching and working towards future ready certification. Um most of the items that are mentioned here have been included in the budget um unless they're part of a phase solution that will be implemented over a multi-year point. >> Wow, >> that was a lot. >> Um Mrs. O'Brien isn't here uh for the education foundation uh the township and uh at board of ed uh leaison. So, the singular focus has been Paradise Null as a voting location. And they might want to extend the uh title of this because I've reached out to the counties, so township, board of ed, county, and every other committee. Um, so realistically, Oakidge and Newfoundland don't have many public offerings in terms of changing a voting location. I spoke to Ken Hearman uh who is the superintendent

162of elections for P County and he explained to me why company 2 firehouse was not a good location back and forth in my brain >> whatever so back and forth in my brain I was trying to think of creative ways so I reached out again to Mr. and he uh quickly shot down my creativity by saying that company 2 really can't be retrofitted to be a voting location. So with all that in mind, uh my suggestion is that maybe school closings occur in the beginning of the week as opposed to the ending of the week for November and possibly using a snow day for June primaries. >> They don't have snow day. Regarding another county function, they have to pick up those voting booths and typically they do run into the problem of trying to

163get the voting booth and schools are closed on the days that they try to pick them up. Interesting enough. So perhaps we can entertain uh a difference in school closings, but also I think it's fair to say that we should send out as a district a notice to those paradise old parents maybe with a statement from Mr. here in stating why certain locations wouldn't be uh usable and also that have been sought out and have the same security concerns that that they wouldn't want to be a voting location. >> Is it like they can't give a waiver though for that particular >> for a company to firehouse? >> Well, a lot of it most of it has to deal with the accessibility of the building. So you have a long uh distance between the parking

164lot and the front door and also it's on an incline. So there's no real ability for somebody with a wheelchair to have an accommodation made. Even if you retrofitted the building to create a a new landing to which they go through, you're not going to be able to accommodate it because of how the building is located on the hill. And also in terms of parking, uh, Mr. Herman had mentioned that if you park down the hill, you're walking a great distance up and there's only two handicap parking spots in the park. So, I think we're running into a wall and until a new public facility, which is one that Mr. also suggested is pretty much the only type of building that they would consider switching to because a business has to close down for the

165entirety of the day of an election. >> Mhm. >> And has to accommodate for having the polling stations before and after the election. So with all the difficulties, I mean maybe we can entertain those ladder options and send out a notice if you've uh advised me to reach out to Mr. Man again for maybe >> maybe he could send us a written statement about it. >> I think that would be best. >> Now is he saying access to the building the the room or is he saying access to the building the bays where you could pull the >> trucks out? trucks out and be able to put voting booth like a number of communities do. >> He had a more detailed explanation about where the booths would need to be. Now, the booths need to

166essentially be stored where they're going to be set up. >> Mhm. >> Um, as per the bays, I mean, you still run into ADA accessibilities because you only have two spots to park. But they have a whole history. >> Yeah, I was going to say I know what you're saying about the hill >> I would totally wave my wand at this point. >> Yeah, I I mean as a as a Oakidge Newland resident and knowing and being at that firehouse many times um there's there's also and we've I've seen this for parties there. People also park along the >> chances as they are. >> Well, thank you for all your hard work. We're not done yet. >> What about if we look at the calendar for next year and close the schools on on election

167day, make the Wednesday a professional day and then Thursday and Friday, you can't I mean it it's contractual the teachers con convention. But if you close the schools, have a professional day and then the kids are off, I think that I think that solves the problem and everybody can go to Disney World if they want for those four days. >> Will makes it sound like it's easier to get the teachers convention moved to Monday and Tuesday for us to move our election to a firehouse. >> We can't. I'm just curious how they do it in other contract. It's legal. It's legal. >> I can report that back to Mr. That was good. >> Thursday and Friday. Yeah, >> I think you should like seriously >> hope it doesn't get ruled out because huge >> the

168parents will have this concern for I guess you know many more years to come. Otherwise, >> I totally understand better. >> Well, at least let's get a letter from him stating what what why we can't have it there in writing. >> I know you put a lot of time and effort into this, so thank you. >> Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Mr. Huber. >> Okay. Uh CASA committee uh committee against substance abuse. I'm going to go through some dates again. Um >> Mhm. >> But first I want to talk about the CASO sponsored along with uh Highlands Family Success Center a um youth mental health first aid course which got rave reviews. Uh this is a course that basically is it was an all day course that taught how to recognize and what to do if you

169recognize mental health issues in teens. All right. It it was from the description is something that I would really encourage um the administration to look into. It's very inexpensive. I think it was $15 ahead. Um, it could be something that would be really great for our staff to supplement their current knowledge and it would also address some of the concerns that came up tonight uh under the public section. Um, you know, uh, so I mean I know in this budget we don't have social workers in there. So this is something that might be you know a small step in the right direction. So I'm just saying maybe get together with Rebecca Stump, the director of CASA. um and talk to her, maybe the course the the course director, the instructor about it. That would be

170something worth doing. >> Maybe you could send the information on to Dan. >> Certainly. Certainly. >> Um to >> uh everybody, a lot of a lot of people in the public want to know about the uh uh middle school semiformal. >> Uh it's at uh uh McPin School. Doors open at 7 PM. It's $15 ahead at the door. Uh please bring exact change. And um >> don't forget the permission slip. If they don't have the kids don't have the permission slip, they will not be allowed to enter. >> When is it? >> Uh that is uh April 27th. >> Okay. >> Friday. That's Friday. >> This Friday. Right. >> Um on Monday the 30th is hidden in plain sight. This is for parents. This is a a program that teaches parents >> where drugs and

171paraphernalians, things like that, might be hidden in any particular uh average home. And they they I believe they even set up kind of a room so that you could um experience what they're talking about. >> What time is that? >> 7 p.m. West Milford High School cafeteria. Um it's from all reports, I haven't managed to make it there yet because the last one was like 2 or 3 years ago. Um but uh from all reports this is a really good program. >> Um I think it goes only from 7 7 to around 8:30 or so. Um so it's not even a very long one. >> Uh uh May 12th is Alliance Health Fair at um the rec center. Uh May 14th uh parents who host presentation by United uh for prevention is open to the

172public. I don't know where that is though. >> What's the date? >> Uh May 14th. 19. >> Uh May 19th is a community awareness dinner where there will be a speaker. Uh it's hosted and it's going to be at the Journey Church. Um and I'd recommend board members to go to that because the speaker is usually very insightful and you get some really good information. >> Um >> yes, you do. >> And last uh last thing for tonight is um there's a Narcan training on June 13th. It's a Wednesday from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. at the library. And uh uh I believe I've seen something along the lines where the state is talking about legislation where >> the school staff needs to might be required to do that anyway. So anybody who wants to get

173ahead of that >> wouldn't wouldn't be a bad thing. It's free. >> So and that's all for my report today. >> Thank you. So I guess we should do all those. >> Yeah. Okay. Uh, old business. Uh, we have Hillrest there. Um, were we going to discuss something? Uh, >> I just wanted to let the board know that we, um, we have to discuss what the next steps are. So, the board needs to think about whether or not they want to now try to market it to sell the building or whether they have other suggestions. And I'm not sure if it has, you know, any legal issues that so it should be discussed in close session. >> Well, it also it's a real estate matter so it should it's executive session anyway. >> Okay. >>

174Any other questions about it? >> Oh no. >> Okay. Um the LGA walkthrough I think we've kind of touched upon it a few times. >> Um it has been completed. We're just waiting for the final report. Um it uh I think that Chris um Chris did a great job of of of explaining things and I think it helped him also identify some areas that he wants to address in the future. Um I I think that um you know it'll be interesting when we finally get the report uh and see what things that we can do and what the the cost of accomplishing those things is going to be as opposed to what the savings they anticipate is going to be and whether it's actually going to be whether it's not. So um that's something we

175look forward to over the next couple of months. will be able to put this to rest and see what direction we're going to go in. >> Old business, anything else? >> Yep. >> Mr. Yuber, >> uh, two things I'd like to add to old business to stay on the agenda until there we have an answer on them >> is one is we made the written request to the council with regard to the vaping issues. Um, like I'd like to have that on the on here council if the council decides to do anything. >> They were going to discuss and they were going to discuss it at the next meeting. >> Great. Thank you. Your mic's not working. Um >> when you hit it. >> Um uh the second thing is we we also voted to

176make a request uh with regard to the township for uh um uh >> I think that is that there any old bit any other old business? >> New business move to close old business. >> Oh second. All those in favor? >> Uh any any new business? >> Hello. >> I have little slips of paper cuz I didn't want to print out 12 sheets of three lines. So, excuse me while I do so. >> All right. I'm going to call your number and the winner gets a prize at the end. Just >> thanks for saving. >> So while I'm doing this in unorthodox, >> I move that the administration prepare a capital project forecast report providing a prioritized list of anticipated capital projects within a 5-year window by the first regular meeting in July 2018. I

177think I'm good at talking about that. >> It It's kind of it that that's what your your strategic plan is, isn't it? >> Second. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Uh discussion. Anybody have a question about this? Ray, >> I like the idea. >> You like? >> Yeah. So it ends I will just say again just from what we do we have a capital expense report that we follow to to help us stay on track with projects and I think it's good for us to see that see what when things open when things close um and how much money is being spent. I'm I'm all for it. >> Nicole first. Nicole, >> um Will had talked to me about this as well and um he initially had proposed a 10-year plan which I thought was a

178little unrealistic and it's probably not something that very easily done, but um I could I can see a benefit of specifically outlining um laying out um a plan specifically around the capital project. I think they just have to be at a very high level. I think it's very critical that we're not getting into the minutia of things, but kind of looking ahead, it does lend itself to bombing and some of these other things if we can think about them longer term. >> Is is this something that we have? I because I feel like >> we have we have the long range facility plan, but every time we do a capital project, it gets amended. >> We um Dr. and I had done a walk through the buildings last year and then >> we changed facilities

179directors. So, >> okay. >> Um, >> they can't hear you. They're saying >> we've we've talked about it there. We've talked about it in the in the past, but there's been a lot of other things going on, so we've never been able to actually pull all the the strings together. Um, >> so it would be something like this. >> Yeah, we have talked about creating some kind of a a plan and I think we do have a template. You know, we have a lot of ideas. It's just a matter of trying to pull everything together. >> I have a template. >> I would just add I would lean on the administration to tell us whether July is a reason. I said to Will, you know, there's a lot going on in the next couple of

180months that maybe that's not realistic that look for your kind of input on timing. I think before the next budget cycle begins and believe me that's not going to be too far past July because we'll be doing this you know we'll be doing this again in late September. So I think you know as the summer winds down uh we can shoot for the September meeting. >> Okay. >> I amend the motion to change July to August. >> Can't he just withdraw and make another one? >> Yeah. >> I'll second I'll resend that. >> Second that. authority, >> but then you have to on the amendment. >> No, no, no, no, no. Just the regular motion. There's only one meeting in August, by the way. So, it's the the August meeting. >> And of course, in

181the intervening time, if that's not enough time for the administration to do so, we could always, you know, change that timeline as well. >> Is there any other discussion on the motion? Do I have a second? Roll call. >> Mr. Bailey. >> Yes. >> Mr. Sidawitz. >> Yes. >> Mr. Drew. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Dwire. >> Yes. >> Mr. Mrs. Fritz. >> Yes. >> Mr. Gino. >> Yes. >> Mr. Uer. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Van Dyke. >> Yes. >> Point of order. >> Yes. >> A vote from somewhere other than the dis actually doesn't count. >> Thank you. So noted. >> Still passed. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh we need uh is there any other discussion on new business? >> Move to close new business. >> Second. All those in favor? Any opposed? >> Okay.

182Members of the public who have requested to speak prior to the meeting will be first for five minutes. That should take out like that. will be first um will be first for five minutes for each speaker for a period of 30 minutes and then time permitting or other public comment limited to five minutes per speaker will be allowed until the 30 minute period transpires. All speakers are asked to give their full name, spell their last name, and provide their address. Speakers may not use the names of students during their public comment. Would anyone like to speak? Move to close public comment. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> Calm down. >> Those opposed. >> Okay. Now, we need a motion to go into executive session. I move that at 10:27 p.m. We go into

183executive sessions for purpose discussing personnel appointment >> HIV and matter attorney >> and real estate and real estate >> real estate >> second >> the executive session will not be released until such time >> all those in favor I >> any opposed >> okay let's do it >> we will take action Sounds important. >> All right. So, how are we going to do it? >> Yeah. What was that? >> Bar stays out. >> Okay. >> Uh, I'd like to reopen the meeting. >> Sorry. Yeah. Can you do a roll call? >> Sure. >> Excuse me. >> Mr. Bailey here. >> Here. Here. >> Not here. >> Mr. Mr. Drew >> here. >> Mrs. Here. Mr. Green >> here. >> Mrs. Mr. Here. >> Mrs. Here. >> Gotcha. >> So, we're going to go personel. for

184my funny comment. >> I would like to move items 13, 14, and 45 on the personel student affairs. >> Second, >> any discussion? Okay, this is Mr. Bailey. >> Yes, >> Mr. Sid. >> Yes, >> Mr. Drew. >> Here. [Laughter] >> The law got my voice. >> No present. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Mrs. Dwire. >> Yes. >> Punchy. >> Mr. Spritz. >> Yes. >> Mr. Greeno. >> Yes. >> Mr. Huber. >> Yes. >> M. >> Yes. On 13 and 14. And I abstain on 45. That we're going to >> item number 13 under education. Okay. Move to accept move to accept the recommendation of the superintendent um on the following hits. 2018 E17 unsubstantiated 2018 H13 unsubstantiated 2018 E18 unsubstantiated 2018 E19 uns unsubstantiated 2018 M2 unsubstantiated 2018 M3 substantiated and 2018 H14 substantiated

185>> second >> discussion Mrs. >> Yes. >> Mr. Green. >> Yes. >> Mr. Huber. >> Yes. >> Mr. Mrs. >> Mr. Mr. Drew. >> Yes. A motion to >> Are you here? >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I Good night. >> Good night.