Board of Education Meeting 1/17/17

001p.m. Welcome to the workshop special action meeting of the West Milk Board of Education. Um, I would remind everybody to please turn off their cell phones and notice the emergency exits and I would like to um, >> God bless you. with all the hoopla going on in the press with with uh our president-elect. Um I just I I pray that everything goes smoothly and the people of uh this country and especially our Congress start uh acting like the elected officials that we hope they are. So, um, if we if if if they can, um, but if we could have a quick moment of silence, could rise for the flag salute, please to the flag of the United States of America and to Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

002justice for all. In accordance with the provisions of the open public meetings act, the public notice of this meeting has been sent to board members, all district schools, the Herald news, the trends, the record, the messenger, Russ Milford town hall, county superintendent office, the board attorney, and cable vision of Warwick and posted in the administration building. Copies of the board meeting calendar resolution were provided to all local media, town hall, township, library, and all district schools. Roll call, please. Mrs. Francisco, >> Mr. Bailey, Mr. Sidowitz, >> here. >> Mr. Drew, >> here. >> Mrs. Dwire, >> here. Mr. Foody, >> present. >> Mr. Yuber, >> here. >> Miss O'Brien. Mr. Robbins. Okay, >> I think Debbiey's on her way down. Yep, here she comes. Uh, no. That's not That's not Debbie. >> That's not Debbie.

003>> No. >> Oh, no. It's not. Oh, >> I keep Glenn. >> Glenn. Um, would you um Sorry about that. >> Executive session. >> Do the executive session resolution, please? >> Move um to approve the following resolution. uh resolve that the board go into executive session at 900 pm for approximately 30 minutes for the purpose of discussing student matters uh and HIV and matters of attorney client privilege and I'm going to add personnel just in case Joe is >> and and Hillrest >> and Hillrest >> um the executive session minutes will not be released until such time as the privilege of confident of confidentiality is no longer applicable. >> We really we really need to fix that typo. It's in there every day. >> Yeah, I know. I know. I'll second. >> Thanks. >> You're

004welcome. >> What's that? >> The order should be enough. I read it I read it twice. Read it wrong every week. Every every meeting. >> You can't hear us. Are the mic's gone? >> Hello. >> Were you Were you able to hear me before? Okay. Okay. >> Thank you, Aida. Um, okay. All in favor? >> I We have a second. >> Yes. >> I second it. >> Thanks. >> Any opposed? Okay. Dr. Anamone. Uh, superintendent report, please. >> Thank you. Good evening, everybody. We have our couple of small items tonight. We have our semiannual uh violence and vandalism uh substance abuse HIV reporting out period. Uh time period is from July 1 through December 31, 2016. And districtwide we had five acts of violence to report, one incident of vandalism, one weapons infraction, two substance

005abuse infractions, and four confirmed HIV incidents. We had 10 10 investigations and six were unconfirmed, four were confirmed. So this sub this submission has been uploaded to the state ready and now we're reporting out to the board and to the community. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> That is that for a year? >> That is for a half year. >> July through end of December. >> And just so you know, um Mr. Roselli is on his way. He'll be here in a minute. He said the traffic was and fog was insane. So, >> um, >> next up we have our West Milford Education Foundation grants for 201617. We have some great news. The foundation awarded over $7,000, $7,323 to be exact, to our teachers and our learners in all district schools. We have just a

006couple I'll read out to you without going through the whole list. We have Operation Greenhouse, which is an over $700 grant. We have a sixth grade STEM project at Aptua School. We have a sprouts garden at Paradise Noble School. We have an outdoor education area at Upper Greenwood Lake. We have a little bit of something for everybody. And again, teachers and educators have to apply for these grants to the foundation. So uh we had a very good year and and we thank the foundation as well as all the benefactors of people who supported the foundation for the previous year at the color run and all different events. So thank you uh West Milford. Last thing on the superintendent report I do although I do have something to add after this is our 201516 anti-bullying bill

007of rights report. This was submitted, this was reported out earlier by me, probably in August of this year. So, we did our self assessment for the anti-bullying bill of rights at all of our schools and we reported out probably in August and we submitted the grades to the state and the state confirmed our report our grades. The uh the grades are a self assessment and they were confirmed by the state. Uh this is out of 78 points maximum. West Milford High School earns 72 points. Okay. >> Absu Aptua Elementary 74. Makapin 70. Maple Road 72. Marshall Hill 73. PK 71. UGL 73 and Westbrook 74. Our district rate is a 72 out of 78. And we will post this on our website if anybody wants to take a look at it. >> Dr. about how

008do we get that number up? >> We find out where we're missing points. There's different categories and there's a maximum number of points and there's the points that you have in that area. Um, so for example, if there's six maximum points in one category, we may have five for one reason or the other. I'd have to look at each individual school's report, but those are the areas where you want to bump up to the maximum. >> Okay. Thank you. and and and so that the the public knows um each school does their own self assessment. >> Yes, the school safety team at each building does this at the end of the school year. We report out in the summer. We sent it to the state and they confirmed our grades just a few days ago.

009>> Okay. And lastly, did not make the print copy of the agenda, but I do want to acknowledge uh as we know earlier this year, we did a lot of goal setting much earlier than usual, which was very helpful to me and to my administrative team. In May, I believe we met to discuss our goals for the school year for 1617. And then shortly thereafter over the summer, I met with the administrative team, the principles, the supervisors, the directors to get some goals that coincide with our district goals. So, one of the goals of the athletic department was sort of a a reach goal. We have some goals that are fairly reasonable to attain and we have some that are more of a reach. If everything goes well, we can maybe accomplish that goal and

010this is one of them. So, the athletic department at the high school applied for the directors of athletic award or excuse me, the directors of athletics association of New Jersey Excellence in athletics award. Um there's uh 433 NJSIA schools and this is the most prestigious award a school district athletic department can earn in New Jersey. Um there's only one award given every year and this year I'm proud to announce that it was earned by West Milford Township High School and their athletic department. Um, so I want to thank our director of athletics, Joe Traniccasta, and members of his application committee, Kathy Rita, Jessica Allison, Taylor PVN, Christa Provost, Joanne Dulie, Lauren Rembrandt, Christa Trapot, Don Thy, Megan Cavalo, and Steve Meslanic, as well as all the players, coaches, and athletic supporters that we have in

011our district. Um, to follow that up, there is an interesting article written today, just a few hours ago, by Darren Cooper. He's the preeminent sports high school sports journalist in the state of New Jersey. Now, he works for the record. And his article, his nickname is Scoops. The article is called Shark Teeth and Deer, West Milford Honored. And I'll read you the first two or three sentences here. Uh, and there's copies of this article on the back table, and you can find it online as well. Um, so he starts off, when I get asked what are the best places to watch a high school game in New Jersey, I always answer West Milford. And it doesn't matter what sport. They always have people in the stands. The kids are cheerful. The atmosphere is lively. I

012don't think I've ever had a bad experience up there. It's a drive, but there are ice cream places to stop in. So, it goes on and on. And again, this is the most prestigious award athletic department can receive. only one high school in the state receives it every year and this year was West Milford Town. So, we had a reach goal and we made it. So, I'm super happy and very proud uh of everybody that was involved. So, >> thank you. >> Great. Um Barbara, special reports and correspondence, please. >> Uh the minutes will be available from the December 20th meeting at our next meeting on Tuesday. >> Okay. Um Mr. Rosselli is not here for legal report but usually that is uh discussed in exec it's usually matters of attorney client privilege. Um it's

013president's report um before we get to the solar panels I just wanted to let the board know um why I put Hillrest on the um agenda for executive session. I was contacted by Skip Mlaughlin and there's some things that we'll talk about when we get in there. Um, other than that, I am going to pass this off to um Joe and his partner John and uh you guys. You guys got the floor. >> Okay, great. Thanks for inviting us. Um, for those who don't know me, um, I think I know a lot of people in here. My name is Joe Ponzo. I've been in the town for 35 years. Um, I've sat on many boards, uh, throughout the town. I'm a certified energy manager for Seaman's industry. I'm also a lead. Um, which is what

014I do for a living. So, couple folks had asked me, you know, what do I do? Um, Mr. Novak happens to live next door to me. So he knows he knows what I'm always tinkering with and uh he knows what I do for a living. So um what I do is basically energy conservation projects um that basically go out and save energy for people. I also do mechanical services and some of the stuff involves solar panels. Um this is in no shape or form a sales presentation. I was asked to do an educational thing to kind of educate everybody. Um it's all high level. There's no technical information here other than what we know from the state. Um you know we don't know any numbers from what the town is going to be consuming or

015not consuming where we can put stuff. I'm just presenting what I know based on living in this town for 35 years and I know all the schools. Um happen to a fireman in town so I know where all the schools are. So um so solar for those who don't know basically solar is probably the most stagnant thing you can imagine. just sits there and it doesn't do much. Just kind of sits there as you can see here. It collects the sun certain hours of the day. It transforms the power, the sun energy into electrical power. Um there's things called inverters. Um get to work right there. That's the only maintenance item really that you have on solar. Um every 3 months you should go out there and clean the air filters out once a year

016if you have the opportunity to wash the panels off with some water. you get a lot of rain, you don't have to. So, New Jersey, okay, New Jersey itself is not one of the userfriendly solar people. Um, right now they really only want what the governor's plan that's out there. He only wants solar farms to put on brown fields, landfills, swamps, any kind of green acre property. He pretty much you'd have to go for through all kinds of legisl to get it go through. We do have one advantage here and hopefully maybe the town council can work because I know they're working to try and get some revenue coming in because of the Highlands Act. So, it might be a bargaining chip for us to go down to the state and say, "Look, you know,

017this town's 100% highlands. We need some help. You know, you maybe help us out and let us put solar on property that may not be a brown field." All right. So, I mean, you can go out to this website here and you can see all of the master stuff that the state has. But right now, as it stands, New Jersey only supports renewable energy other than, you know, residential homes for commercial properties on brownfields and landfields. So, I went out and I took some of the properties, okay? I looked at some of the properties we have here and I've been hearing discussions about Wall, okay? And I know I know the uh property very well. I sat on the the township building assessment committee. So, we were involved with this when it first came about.

018Um, you know, you've got a property here. This is the senior housing there. This is the coastal gas station. This is the barn. This is the house. This is pretty much all of the Wish property. Okay. There's 100 acres there. And I'm just again pointing out you do have potential here. You have some wetlands here. Under the current legislature, you can put solar on on wetlands. Okay. one one site we're looking at and the maximum again the maximum you can put on any given piece of property is 10 acres. So the state will only allow you 10 acres. So if you were to take a 10acre piece of property in one ideal spot is here by the seniors. You really don't see it from the road because if anybody's gone by there's a big burn

019in there. So if you were to put solar panels back in here the only one that really would catch a glimpse of it would be those folks there. But again we we haven't done any studies. We haven't done anything regarding that. Then we got this complex here. Okay, you got the high school, you got the middle school, you got the Westbrook school, and all the other properties. So, you've got some potential property here. Based on the report I saw, you could put some on the high school, possibly some on the West. And if you can do a trade off with property, possibly on the steel here or like I said, the steel here. Let me go back a little bit. One good thing about one thing New Jersey has is the only way you can

020make electricity off the solar field and sell it is if it's designated as a solar farm. Okay? And you're going to sell it at the wholesale rate and it's substantially discounted um from what you're actually paying. As an example, you know, we'll buy it at 5 cents a kilowatt. I think right now the board's paying 15. So, you're really not making a lot of money, you know, by by going with a solar farm. Um, but over here on this parcel, you can do what's called a net metering project. What that means is you can produce as much power as you want, up to about 70 80% of the power and feeding into these meters on all of these complexes here, and the meters will actually run backwards. So net metering is doable here and you

021can do it under two ways. You can do it where the township buys the equipment, owns the equipment and reaps the benefits from it. And there are certain benefits from it. One is the electricity that you're going to generate from it. There's something called SRE credits. Okay. Right now the SRE credits are very high. They're paying somewhere between 200 and $250 per credit. So a 2 megawatt solar farm could potentially generate4 $50,000 a year just in credits. Um but you can't pay tax credits because we don't pay taxes. The board of eds will pay taxes. So, there's no tax credit benefits from but you could do depreciation on equipment if you own it. I've been hearing, you know, through the through the um we uh you know, they were talking about a power purchase agreement

022or PPA. PPA, what that basically is is somebody comes in, a contractor will come in, install all the equipment on the roof. You don't pay him a dime, but you guarantee him 15 years that you're going to pay him x amount of dollars per kilowatt. Okay? And that's typically right now they're going somewhere in 8 to 9 cents a kilowatt. So yes, you are saving 6 cents a kilowatt, but you're only and there's going to be an escalation too as the years go on. Maybe nine today, but next year it might be 9 12 next year, but it'll escalate up to a certain point. So that there you have no capital outlay. You don't have to maintain it. Somebody else does it. You got to look at the model. We would put together a model

023for you to tell you how much of a benefit you would see from that versus owning it. Another place, this place is very unique. Most people don't know it. I've been in town a long time. This is the town DPW garage. This is the room coming up. That's the Marshall Hill School. Come up the road. Make the right arm like cowski drive. This is the soccer field. This is the pump track. Okay. Now you say, well, you know, why would I want to do anything there? Well, the potential could be here where you could put solar here and you could do a trade-off and build some soccer fields down by the Wallish property. I happen to know what was underneath this property. For those who don't, this used to be a landfill. It's about 75

024ft deep of garbage. Okay? It's been capped and it produces a ton of methane gas. You can also put a potential co-gen plant up there where you would basically generate power and that you can sell back to the grid. Um there's a huge landfill project up on Route 94 in Lafayette called Hams Landfill. They generate 2 megawatts. Okay? And they're making a ton of money up there based on gas that they got for free out of a landfill. So that's why I'm pointing this out. You know, there's potential there. This is the upper lake school. Big roof, flat roof. put a lot of power up there. You can do a net metering project up there or a power purchase agreement, whatever you folks choose. So, here's some of the details. You know, the municipality can

025install it, own it, and operate the whole farm if we can get it approved through the state. Um, you know, we do have the advantages, like I said, for the fact that we are in the highlands. We could possibly twist their arm and say, "Look, you got to help us out. Here's one way." um the solar farm to the grid connection. If you're under a farm process, yes, you would hook up to the grid. If we were to put a farm down by Wallish, halfway up the block is a giant substation, so we could the interconnect would be real quick and easy. It's not far away. All right. Um there are things like I said if you were to put a 2 megawatt uh solar farm basically you can generate 40 50,000 just in SRE

026credits each year just for doing nothing for the fact that you're making 2 megawatts of power and that's what this that's what this is here. But the tax credits unfortunately because we don't pay taxes you know as a school we can't there are tax incentives which could be like 30% we would lose those because we don't pay taxes. Okay the landfill site again it's closed and capped already. It's producing methane. It's a potential for a base you know potential money maker up there both on the solar side and on the uh and on the cogen plant. All right. Um and then site selections. These are some of the things we look at when we put solar in. Um, you know, make sure the propertyy's level. Make sure it's facing southwest. Uh, you need four to

027five acres per megawatt. Um, you need a connection point, you know, near the Wallish and the uh BPW site is a great candidate because that big substations right there by Dairy Queen. Um, you know, you have to do all your environmental approvals of course and then you have to do preliminary feasibility studies to see how much power you consume each year. And you don't ever want to overproduce unless you're selling it as a farm. You don't ever want to produce on a PC or owned a solar owned project because you're giving them free power. They will not buy it from you on a commercial application. All right. Then approvals again depending on how you go. If you're going to own the property and own the equipment, you have to go through all the approvals or

028your contractor would have to go through all the approvals. Um, these are just some legislature that's out there that you can look at that basically tells you where and why you can put things on certain sites, you know, like site remediation processes and landill closures, all that stuff. It's just stuff that's all tied together. Um, again, for under the approval, once you've got your approvals, you'd have to do all your construction, you'd have to do all your safety, your security. Um, we file the township, you know, hopefully the township building department will work with us to get the approvals. There really isn't much for them to do other than safety concerns and fire concerns. That's really the only concerns on a solar farm. And then you have to go to the PCA for your construction

029permits because their concern is the environment. Okay? And then your final steps would be to do your engineering or your installations, your commissioning, your SR registration because you have to register your SREX so that somebody buys them. Basically, that's just like a coupon kind of thing where people the utility companies have to buy these credits at $250 of credit. So you're going to generate, you know, somewhere around 40 to 50,000 a year with those. So you have to get somebody to buy them. But even banking, too, so that if they go down, like they were down to $80 at one point, now they're up to 250. So if they go down, you just sit there holding and then you wait till they go back up for themselves. Okay? And then, you know, on a farm

030condition, it's it's ideal to put a uh you know, to try and maximize the the amount of money you get from it. You try to wheel a deal right up front because once you once you close the deal, that's it. You're done. And then you're responsible if you're going to own it, you be responsible for all the construction. So that's it on the solar. I mean, I can ask some answer some questions if people have questions myself or John. John's the expert on the money side. Um John's going to talk about EIP which is also part of this program. It's it's all tied together and he'll explain to you what EIP means and why you want to consider doing an EIP project and he'll go into that. So, does anybody got any solar questions quickly?

031Go ahead. >> Drew, how does the state define this? A lot of it has to do with pollution levels. The when they do an environmental impact study, it's designated as a brown field. Um, a lot of it has to do with hazardous waste dumps, um, contamination, things like that. You know, I know Wall has a little bit of an issue over there. I know it's very small. The Wish brothers used to shoot shotgun shows and there's lead in the ground, but I don't think that would be considered a brownfield. It's it's small to begin with. So, but um are you thinking about any other sites in town? >> Yes, I think you told me about a site that was cleared to be a soccer field and never got built. >> That's the one up behind

032Macken >> and has some stuff dumped there. >> Yeah, that's the one up behind McAfe if it was designated there was an EPA environmental impact study gone and it has >> Yeah. No, I I don't I don't >> Yeah. No, there I don't believe there is. >> There could be. >> Yeah. >> I don't think it's big enough either. >> Um on the net metering. >> Does that mean that we have to be buying more than we're producing >> at every instant in time or can we produce more in the summer and buy even more than that in the winter? >> It boils down to basically is that over a period of time, okay, you consume so many kilowatts and you produce them. As long as that total never goes over the total use, then

033you're okay. Is that on an annual basis? >> Okay. [Music] >> Okay. >> That would be a whole different issue if you always had to be a consumer going to spend in rehearsal. So in the end in the end of the year your total total kilowatts you know but they want you to be somewhere around 70 80%. And the reason for that is because you know it you're you're hoping that the solar farm is running all the time, but they know that it doesn't and that there could be potential of a take down for maintenance so that when it does go down, they have to provide you with power. Okay? So, that's why they really only want you to be at the 70 80% mark. But I've seen, you know, I've seen even on residential

034applications where people's electric bills $2 from from the utility for the whole year because they they got it that close. You know, they got that close. You know, they'd like to see it 7080, but can you push it up to 92 95? You know, yes, you could. >> Um, a couple questions. one, could you just clarify for me at this at a certain point in the video, uh, you made a statement that you're required to not have more than 10 acres. Now, is that only on the non-farm side? >> Correct. >> Okay. So, >> well, no, on the farm side, on the farm side, >> you're not allowed to generate, you're not allowed to take up more than 10 acres or whatever you can cram on there as far as solar, but typically it's four

035to six acres per kilow per megawatt. >> Okay. The other thing was for my last question make quick comments bring something like you had said that um you know generally you pay about 15 >> well the well the board of ed is paying 15 right now >> 15 kilowatt you said right >> 15 cents a kilowatt >> yeah per kWh yes >> per kw so and if we were to produce it ourselves obviously um wouldn't be paying anybody per kilowatt it would be the cost of the infrastructure and what >> well yeah what happens is this you have this initial cost of equipment so you have to weigh all this into you when When we run models, okay, what happens is we run a model, we figure out how much you guys are producing for

036the year. Okay. And I think right now it's somewhere around three megawatts for the year. Is that correct? >> About three and a half. >> Three and a half megawatts a year. Okay. So, you're certainly using more than you could possibly fit on a farm. So, that's a good thing. But also, you got the capital equipment outlay if you buy it, which you would have to do if you're doing a farm. Um, to get somebody to do a PPA, you might not correct, John. You're not gonna get anybody to do a PPA on a farm. >> Well, a PPA would the only way PPA works on a farm is the only thing you would benefit would be the lease of the property. >> Lease the property. That's it. >> An investor will come in and

037sol it. He'll get the credit from the and he'll pay you leases for the property. That's all. And I I'd be curious to see the analysis between all those. >> Well, that would be, you know, if you folks want to go to the next step, we could certainly start putting models together for you and, you know, coming down meeting, you know, we'd have to get all your utility bills for all the schools and also the town because, you know, I understand the the joint ownership of the Gualish property, but you'd want to sit down and basically figure out how much this whole entire town consumes. If we're going to shoot for a farm, then you want to make sure you can sell every nickel of power you're generating to to satisfy both things. >> Well,

038I think you just made a comment. You know, you just said that they're using three megawatt >> three and a half megawatt and you couldn't possibly have a farm big enough to >> Well, we could put four pieces of product in. Okay. So, there's a way to get you individual pieces. >> Hypothetically, you could put 10 acres on Wallish. You could put half a megawatt on the high school. you could put, you know, a quarter of a megawatt in upper Green Lake school. So all totally you could maybe put three, four megawatts throughout the district, you know. So >> Okay. And then the other would be like, so you mentioned that you would come in and do this. So how do you get paid? Like how does that work? Like um >> John will go

039through that whole thing. It's part of the rating process or >> we'll go through the Yeah, we'll go through the whole thing under the Yes. Under the um EIP. >> Yes. >> Um so I want to make sure I understand the board. You're talking about potentially no more than 10 acres. It's doable on top of wetlands because on a wetlands map almost all of the property is is on wetlands except for the area up by the house which is the high ground in the field where the chestnuts. So I'm assuming these things go up in the air. They sit up on sticks. Yeah. I mean what happens is they they try to do the least amount impervious material. So they drive in like a piece of iron into the ground till it stops. It's called

040refusal. And then they would basically build like a bleacher type device as you saw. >> It's like four or five feet up in the air. There's flooding. >> Yeah. Yeah. They get it out of the flood plane. If there's a there's an established flood plane, we would look at that on the flood plane maps on your flood plane maps and we would put the lowest panel above the flood plane if there is that flood. But there's also things called wetlands delineation too where you can go in and delineate some wetland too and you know you do a tradeoff you know where you know I know that the Wallish property has some some from the college from the Rambo college they had done some wetland delineation down there they said all right we're going to take

041this chunk of property and we're going to utilize it now and then they have to do a wetlands delineation or a trade-off and they did with the Wallace property >> well and Pennsylvania state came out and did wetland studies in order to determine where there's a grove rare American chestnut trees is one of only five sites in the state of New Jersey for the American chestnut tree. >> Okay. >> And um they determined that in all the Wallish all 100 acres there's only one chestnuts can't take wet feet and there's only one spot and it's um across from the field where you pointed out that you know you wanted to put some >> again so the solar doesn't sit on the dirt. It's up in the air. It's above. >> Okay. because I have a

042couple other questions. Um, are there is is how far back from the road do these things have to be set back? I mean there there there is a danger you're working with electric equipment and I know that firemen have been killed in other states. >> They're they're all fenced in. We have the law says that if you're doing ground mount has to be fenced in. >> I can't hear you. >> has to be fenced in. >> They have to be fenced. >> Okay. >> Currently, right now Warwick is doing a 5.6 6 megawatt system on the Sanford fields up off of 94 there and that entire field will be fenced in so that children don't go in there and and you know the actual panels themselves does not do not generate large voltages they generate

04312 volts like a car battery and then it goes through these inverters that kick it up to basically high voltages. So, unless they actually get into the inverter, which are locked and sealed, the panels themselves, you know, I'm not going to say that they're not dangerous, but it's not like you can touch a wire, cut a wire, and, you know, and get electrocuted. >> I'm only bringing it up because I know firemen in other states have been killed. >> Yeah. >> With if there's a fire involved in the vicinity, I think we should all be aware that we're I actually saw something similar at the Doris Duke estate. They have a fabulous uh solar farm. The entire doorstep estate runs on power from one of these solar array types. >> John's doing the project right

044now up in Columbia Press up in Palisade. They're putting 2 megawatts up there on that big estate up there. >> They have a a special orchid greenhouse, very old like 100y old glass orchid greenhouse. They run all the power from the greenhouse. They I mean they have it's a phenomen about about solar. Um, you know, when I when I drive down the road and I see solar and it's sitting there and it's really not doing too much, then I ride down the road and I see a nuclear power plant generating nuclear waste and then I drive down the down the turnpike and I see a coal generating plant and I sit there and I weigh them out. Guess which one wins, you know. So >> what I mean in terms of the fire, I can

045let you go to address the whole concern about the electrical fire. So, the project we're performing for Columbia University, we haven't started the installation yet, but it's due up shortly. We've had conversations. It's two municipalities uh in New York State in Orange County. And we've had conversations with with the fire department. So, what happens is you have the the entire solar array with the fenced in with about a 25 ft uh barrier around for for people to go in and service vehicles to go in and do what you have to do. the inverters that Joe speaks about in this instance, we're going to install those inverters outside of that array and outside that fence fenced in themselves with a kill switch. So, should there ever be a fire or any concern, you you'll kill the

046inverters. However, as you see online, the panels, if it's during the day, are still going to be generating power, sending power to those to that inverter. So, the protocol that's in place now is a controlled burn. We don't even want the fireman to enter. We we just want them just let it burn. We don't care. Let it burn and then we'll address it from there. ose it. Make sure it doesn't spread, right? You got you got uh you know ground concerns, right? With grass and things like that so it doesn't spread. Just control it. >> Excuse me, guys. I'm sorry. Celeste. Um this was really anformational session for the board and the council. If you want any questions, you you'll have a couple of minutes during petitions and requests, but let if you could, if

047you don't mind, just let the board and the and the council asked their questions. All right. I appreciate it. Thank you. Yes. >> The field that Waller you were talking about, how big is it? >> We didn't do any studies of it. Yeah. Not yet. I mean, you know, it's we're I was just asked to do an educational thing. So, >> because it is brownfield. >> Mhm. And we want all the way back where the pipeline comes from sculptures in the ground. >> Right. Right. >> And that's all great that would come out in an environmental impact study and also a model and also a model. So you know that's that's good stuff to note. And again if we if the board decides to go to the next step or the town council decides to

048go, you know, on some of their properties too, you know, that would be our next step to start digging in. So I'll let John talk and then um >> Hey Joe, just one quick question on the net metering aspect. Is it is it a one for one if you did something at the high school you end metering there and then then that would have been the same thing or could you bundle all of them together for use and >> well it depends on I mean I don't know how the structure is here I mean are you I'm sure they're on under three different meters so yeah we would kind of design see you can put you can utilize this the roof for the high school and if you overproduce because it's too big of a

049roof just say you can trench back to this meter because it's that close so we can theoretically put a you know a solar thing up on a high school roof, just say it's producing more than that high school's using, we would take some of it and bring it over here or bring it up to the middle school because the middle school can't put anything on the roof because the structural support doesn't hold it. So would be just digging a hole in the ground and running a 4-in conduit underground and you know and putting it into that meter. So yes, you could >> the the normal uh uh methodologies if you have one master meter for the district, then we can aggregate meters, but if they're all individual meters, then they they will give you a

050harder time with regards to connections to each meter. But this is an ideal location because within a eighth of a mile, you've got the the board of ed building, you've got the middle school, the high school, this school, and the garage. So you got a lot of potential of making meters run backwards just in this neighborhood. controlled by the utilities or is that controlled more by the state? Is that something we can leverage? >> Well, we're going to, you know, we can try to leverage everything we want. You know, um we are in the highlands. So, like, you know, me being a township residence, I know I hear the arguments every day about how can we get our tax base down. I mean, nobody wants it brought down more than I do, you know, and

051it's definitely one thing we can have our mayor and council go twist, you know, the c the people down the state say, "Look, you got to help us, you know, we need something. We're not doing nothing crazy here. We're putting solar panels up. So please help us and I'm sure they'll work with us. I'm sure they're I'll turn over to John Jowski. He'll talk about Es. >> We'll talk about E. So John Dukowski, I'm an account executive seaman's industry. Uh my primary role is uh selling energy contracts. Uh and in New Jersey uh the legislation in place for that is uh EIP, energy savings improvement program. EIP was enacted about uh 6 years ago now, 2009 2010. Uh I'll get into some particulars with regards to how many projects are online and and where to

052have whole legislation is going and what's going on. Um before I get into uh the details of EIP, I just want to let me touch on solar a little bit more with regards to how solar could work under EIP. So Joe spoke about a solar farm. Joe spoke about PPA. I'll speak towards solar under EIP. So there's the opportunity under this EIP program you can implement solar as well and it would be housed underneath this along with other energy savings measures. So we would we would do what we call a bundled solution other energy savings measures including solar and it would all be funded through this EIP program. Okay. Um how it works so we implement what we call ECMS energy conservation measures. Um how they work are it's pretty simple. an energy conservation measure.

053The it could be simple as a lighting. We do we commonly do an energy upgrade with the lights. Um the savings generated from that improvement will utilize to pay for the debt service over time. So in New Jersey under Eiff, you're allowed to term the program 15 years. Standard legislation allowed you to go financing for 15 years. The tried and true method of financing in EIP in New Jersey is you could float a bond. there's no referendum required to float a bond or you can go the standard uh method which is a municipal lease. So there are the two standard or you can use cash which most people are not going to use cash. So um but there are there are three options you have. One little um curve you have is if you can

054install combined heating power I don't know if anyone knows fuel generation. If you can install CHP system uh somewhere and we can get it to run for 5,000 hours a year minimum to meet efficiency standards. We can we can extend the term of the program from 15 to 20 years. I'll get into that in a second. So what does that do? We get to we get to expand the savings on all measures from 15 to 20 years not just to one. So that can help increase the size of the project and also give us more work to do. Um so so how it works now let's let's just talk high level in terms of what I talk about like say you were spend a million bucks a year now in your existing budget. ESIP works

055within your existing budget. You're already spending the money. You're spending a million time. I come in and I say, "We're going to implement a number of these measures, lights, boilers, air conditioners, windows, building envelope, whatever. I'm going to save you 20%." That 20% that I saved you from your existing budget, which you're already spending gets deferred for pay service. So, we're not asking for additional debt or capital. It you're already spending that money. It's already on your budget. We're going to take that 20% and we're going to defer that over time. And like I said, we go 15 to 20 years if we can possibly to do that. Uh some additional measures here. Uh lighting, water savings can be done, but that's considered a capital measure. With EIP, there's the opportunity to implement non- energy

056savings um projects. Straight capital meaning there's there's measures that you may want to do that don't generate any energy savings. You can do up to 15% straight capital measures under this program as well. They just have to be financed uh differently and separately steps how to develop the project. The first step and I looked so so the board of public utilities has a full oversight over the Eiff program the BPU uh on their website uh they have u they have all the details of of all the municipalities and school boards have performed what they call an LGA local government energy audit. That's technically in our world, our energy world, that's like an ashray level two energy audit. It's not a full detailed audit, which would be a level three, but it's it's enough detail for

057people to understand that there's actually an opportunity available, what the magnitude of the project could potentially be. Under New Jersey legislation, us when you see the word here, ESCO, Seammens is an energy service company. That's what ESCO is. That's when you see we're not allowed to perform that preliminary audit. So there's a third party that has to perform that preliminary audit for the municipality or or the school board. Up until this year, there were four or five vendors that were approved that you would compete to perform this prelim audit uh across the buildings. You would select them and put an RPI to select them. However, I noticed there some changes this year. I think there's only one vendor now. I think it's TRC who uh handles all of these LGA. So step one is and

058I looked on the VP website. I don't think West Milford has performed the LGA unless I'm wrong. I didn't see if they didn't update the website, but I don't know that. I don't think you you've done a prelimin LGA. So, that would have to be step one. You would have to call a PPU and have them come in and have this vendor come in and perform this LGBA. So, at least you have a prelim and that sets the baseline for exactly what you feel in terms of energy reduction can be performed here throughout the district. Okay. Um the next step would be you have to hire an escope or a mechanical engineer to perform the work. And I'm I'm going to jump to the next slide because this whole presentation is what um Mike Tulene

059presented at the League of Municipalities uh this past year. So this is just verbatim what Mike spoke to from the BPU. So Mike Tin is in charge of the program. So I'm just kind of I'm just I didn't want to change anything. I have what he has here, but I'd like to explain it a little differently because he's he's kind of jumping a gun with his with these steps. Um I spoke about the I spoke about the options. Okay, there's three options you have with regards to moving forward to implement an EIP project. Now, the first is is the standard energy service company model where you would put out an RFP. that RFP which is a standard document that the BP has put together now uh on their website that everyone uses a standard RP

060doc you would attach this this prelim audit this LGA audit to that RFP and you would submit that to the ESOs that are approved uh in the state through the state department uh of management construction uh as ESCO classification that's the the first model so uh you would you would submit that the ESCO would submit uh their their offering what type of project how large a project they could put together. Uh you would meet, we would have have interviews, you would select the ESCO and then from there the ESCO would move forward and develop the final what they call energy master plan and then move forward to be able to go to construction. That's that's the the first option. There's actually three options now that the DP has pres presented to us. The second option

061is the do-it-yourself model where you can name someone in a town or on a board that you feel is competent enough to handle and run and manage an energy service upgrade program. Um, and then go out and hire a consultant to develop this this final detailed energy master plan and then go to contract and and put bidspecs together, hire an engineer or somebody to put the bid spec together and did it. But you would run it and you would construct and manage it, right? You would you would have to handle that alternative. So that's the second option. The third option is what they've come out with now they call a hybrid model where there's an esco and there's a consultant involved. So basically look at it like this. You have the board of ed. You

062would have the ESCO here and in the middle we would have an architect or engineer who would act as the owner's rep to the board of ed to help level review all the responses from the ESCOS and then make recommendations uh to the board and help make that determination. So uh that model has been utilized on uh some other uh districts of lake as well. So maybe you have an existing relationship with a architecture engineer. I'm not sure if they've been involved in ESP, but that's that's the third model that's that's come out of late. So, they're the three approaches. Uh what we find personally is the the the cleanest approach would be just to use the standard ESCO model. Um because under this model, we still have to account for engineering fees. Um all

063fees and all subcontractors are open bid under New Jersey public law. Public uh open public law. So um you know you would see if you looked at the RFP the pricing sheets are all in there with regards to markups and and what what are we made and then how it all goes forward. Um so in this case here you you would have to pay a consultant in the middle to to do all this work so long as you felt comfortable enough as a board to be able to level and look at these responses right and to make a decision. So uh that's what most boards have to determine what they want to do or not do. um do it yourself I'd say has been done maybe a handful of times a couple times it's either

064been the esco direct or you know hybrid approach question >> yeah go spot yeah >> um >> because we're talking about different options on how to go about the installation or how to go through the process right in house or or otherwise >> the question is though now all this cost is that inclusive of I know you didn't give specific numbers all inclusive of that 20% of let's say that million dollar that you're already spending. So when you said that you would be you know am advertising the the debt >> over 20 30 years or whatever that would be inclusive of all these costs that we're talking about right now >> and then the other one sorry >> it has to be >> sound like a stupid question but you know when you're talking about

065a million dollars let's say right um and 20% would go towards paying the debt or the cost but we're is there an assumed if the other 80% is the savings already or are we still spending 80% you know like I'm just trying to figure out he's >> still paying so what's going to happen that 80% % >> yeah you're still paying that 80% to the utility company right so if we save 20% that 80% is still getting written now that check's still going to the utility company and it's just the 20% that we would take and utilize for the debt service because it actually be savings but we're going to say we're going to take that it's savings but we're going to say we're taking that savings >> look at it from this way if

066you if I'm going to save you on this hypothetical two a million dollar project if I'm going to save you $200,000 >> y >> a year stretch that out over a 10 year or 15 year payout. That's 15 time 200. That's $3 million worth of work we can do. >> Okay. >> For free. Doesn't cost you nothing >> because you've already spent it. You're already trying to see the savings. >> Now, after that term, you're going to all that savings is now going to come in your pocket. >> Okay. >> So, in in normal scenario, so so in terms of savings, you know, the question is like we see anything in our pocket, right? I mean, let's be realistic, right? So in our world, we we talk about percentage of savings per measure. When I

067said ECM, I'm right in the conservation measure. So we'll look at each one of those measures. Ultimately, we're conservative company. So ultimately, we'll gauge anticipated savings less than 100%. And we're probably in the 95 90 to 95% range. So what does that say? We're going to take what we're going to take for debt service. The expectation is normally you would probably see 5% in your pocket from day one. It it depends on how many measures and what percentage of savings we would uh >> right and that's really just curious and the analysis would ultimately determine or would it go up would it go down does it fluctuate is it 5% is that a hard number is it less you know >> so so under the standard performance contract that the good thing is listen we

068guarantee savings right so um and and we don't guarantee we're a huge corporation right we don't guarantee the savings with an insurance policy so under this program you have the option Washington, New Jersey to take a guarantee about it. I mean, listen, I I suggest if you were to do it, you take the guarantee. If something ever went wrong, we do what we call a measurement verification every year. Someone needs to do it. We do it. You do it every year. You say, "Okay, here's what happened. We met the savings. We didn't meet the savings." If there's a shortfall, then the seam corporation's going to cut a check. Right? >> Shortall and then we're going to try to figure wrong and try to remedy the problem obviously, right? But but we're going to cut a

069check. you know, we we have an a line item on our balance sheet for these projects to car and cover the cost for guarantees. So that's how it works. But is there opportunity to see a few bucks from day one? Yes. And then obviously the life cycle of this equipment is longer than 15 years most of them. So um when that debt service is over, you would reap the benefits of 100% of most of those savings, right? >> Is is that likely with time of the equipment? >> Yeah. And and it's all depicted in the response. See, when you sit down after you do the audit and everything, you know, you might not want to stretch out a project to 15 years. The board might say that our pay simple payback, we don't want to

070go past eight years. So, we would take 25 FIMS, a FIM, this is an acronym for facility improvement measure. We might take 25 FIMS and figure out what the cost is for each FIM, bundle them all up, and then say, okay, well, this one's got a 10-year payback, this got a four-year payback, this got a two. Add them all up, and you guys want only an eightyear payback? Well, guess what? We're only going to do seven fins versus 30 and you know so you get your payback in seven years based on that project. So you know it's it's customized to a certain extent but it is a good thing because I know the town's you know struggling with taxes. I know the school needs windows. I know the school needs boilers. I know the lighting

071project lighting is a huge payback less than a year. So that's a monstrous project that you know whatever you're paying for lights right now you can pay back in less than a year on the lighting. You don't want to throw that away because you want to take that and put that in with a 20-year project so that you can kind of drive down, you know, the larger project so it comes something palatable, you know, at the end, you know, that year. >> So, it's there's multi-ter benefits. >> Yes. Correct. >> Question for you. The >> solar in the past 10 years, how much the technologies changed? >> Um, so the manufacturer is doing a couple different types of panels, right? They they've changed a little. The efficiencies have improved. Believe it or not, solar panels

072efficiency is only like the 20% range for transfer of of power. >> Has the efficiency improved in the past 5 years compared to 10 years ago? >> Single percentage points in the last 5 years. Single >> single. >> Yeah. Not there's not been anything huge. So we're in the 20s. We were probably, you know, high teens 10 years ago and now we're in the 20s in terms of >> typically, you know, 20 years ago a panel would produce maybe what 180 watts. Now you can get panels with 250 out of one or 350 for some of the military panels. >> What I'm getting at is once you're committed to this in a 15year term >> in another five years. >> That's where does it pay, you know, it's one of those things you got, you

073know, wait technology is advancing so much. Does it pay to wait another five years because you're making a huge commitment, >> right? >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so that's where EIP EIP kind of is is helpful there because uh under this EIP program, you're probably not going to be able to do all the solar you would want to do. It has to fit in in the blend, right? Joe spoke about the blend these measures. So, it would have to fit what we could put in there still has to fit in with the lights, the boilers, and all this other stuff. So, that at the end, it comes up with the right payback. So, from that perspective, you can probably get a good head start uh and then determine from there. with regards to technology and

074things like that. A lot of people, that's why a lot of people, although there's some risk to a PPA, a lot of people like to stay with PPA because you know what they say, it's the investor's problem. So, I'm going to take that. I'm going to take my credit. You make a few bucks a year. You know what? In 5 10 years, if they come out with Cold Fusion, he's going to come put it in anyway. He's going to come rip those pounds out cuz he's going to just redo this whole thing and try to save more or do something else for you. He'll be happy to do that. So, and it's not on your dime. You're not committed for that long term. So from that perspective, yeah, it's six in one, half a dozen

075the other. You would have to make the determination. Listen, these are long-term commitments, right? We're talking under you're talking a minimum 15. >> It's like, you know, John and I have been doing this for seams for 17 years. Okay. Boiler efficiencies, okay? Boilers, when we first started, 82 85%, you can buy 96% of boilers now. Okay? A boiler that used to be as big as your car comes in a box this big, >> right through the door on a hand truck. 33 million BTUs. So, you know, it's like anything, you know, that laptop's, you know, outdated the day you walk out the door with, you know, >> now, now under EIV, you can do phase two and a phase three. So, you're open to say down the road do some additional measures, right? Five years

076from now, and we we have multiple projects where we're on phase twos and phase 3es. So, you don't you're not it's not necessarily going to take everything on in one fell swoop. You're going to talk about phasing anyway. So, that's where you would be able to be able to say, "Look, the technologies have changed and we can talk about that >> going forward, 5 years from now, seven years." That is amazing though that this the solar itself the solar solar panels haven't advanced that much because remember having this conversation five years ago >> and the size five years ago because that would be 5 years already. >> Yeah. The size listen the size and the cost right. We know we know the outputs have increased that's for sure. Efficiencies have increased a little bit and

077then the cost obviously has come way down. So >> the whole the whole thing about the EIP program is you develop a partnership with whoever contractor it is that you're with because you are married to that person for the next 10 or 15 years. A because they got a checkbook. If your son, you know, if your program goes bad, they're going to be writing you out a check. So, it is a partnership and you work together to try and develop additional phase 2s and phase 3es, you know, so that you know the school is not putting out anymore. You're capping your expenditure and you're reducing it, you know, and in the end you will see some improvements, you know, in 8 years, 10 years, 12 years, but you'll see that question. >> Your example, million

078dollar investment. Yep.$200,000, 200,000, you know, savings for the year. Somebody's got to pay the million dollars cash up front. We're issuing a bond to do that. >> You don't have to pass from this. You could you could blow a bond to the entire program, >> in which case we would have to pass. >> No, it's not. >> All right. But either way, we're issuing a bond >> or does that count against our credit? >> No. Under this program? No. So, the standard methodology is not the bond. It's a municipal lease. >> Most seammens being this huge corporation that can issue bonds at AAA rate so on and so forth. Would you? >> Yeah. I mean, we would we would have our finance partners, human financial services entertain the bond and have conversations. And at a

079minimum, here's what we would we'd be able to do. At a minimum, we could have those conversations and have our personnel get involved. And if they're not in involved and and don't want to partake, then they can go out and help compete and get the best. Normally you don't do that. >> Uh no mo most I mean 99% of what we write New York, New Jersey and whatnot. They're municipal uses. That's the standard methodology for for an energy savings project. >> Do you do you have a program where we would put the thing in and you would do the be the owner and lease back. So you become the >> No. No. Well, we could talk about getting SS, but no, it's usually third party that >> Do you know what the current ITC rates

080in and New Jersey? I mean, they used to be very generous. I know they've gone down, but other than >> Yeah, like bonds. I mean, bonds we know, right? I think they're probably in the in the three range. Two up two and a half, three. >> No, the interest rate, but the investment tax credit. >> Oh, they're just a tax. Well, investment tax credit for solar. >> We don't get anything. >> No, you don't get anything. >> You would lose 30%. private corporation at least 30% back to us. There isn't a solar credit. >> That's big. That's what Joe mentioned. That's a big impact. You use 30% >> 30% of the tax credit. >> 30% the town can take it and nor can the board of edoration. Yes. >> Thank you. >> We had some

081>> on on your plan A, B, and C. whatever the cost is, you know, even if it was a million dollars to each one, what is the per say if you know it, the percentage of the soft cost on each >> um that's all broken out in the RFP. So, um they ask for overhead and profit basically. They don't really ask for soft cost the state >> engineering. So, so so >> engineering varies um so engineering, you know, it depends on how detailed you're getting, right? You you've got to put a bid spec together, right? We have to these sub trades all get bid out. So engineering has to handle that. So it's not like, you know, I look at a project and I say lights, you can do it physical. You don't have to

082go crazy with engineering, right? But if you're going to replace a boiler, we got to do more detail design, right? Drawing. So I look at it that way. But the issue here is we still have to put a full bids back together. So engineering is still going to be up there. The engineering will probably be on the low end 3 4% of the project and on the high end probably six or seven. But data, that's all into that $200,000 saving, the 20%. That's all built in there. That's that all that's that gets back to where I said you sit down with the customer yourselves and you sit there and you look at all the fins that we've generated based on the audit and we come up with some kind of rough cost so that we

083can sit okay, you know what, maybe we don't want to do the boilers because the school's got hypothetically a lot of asbestous. So, you know, the remediation could be millions of dollars just in that itself. So certain things you look at you know you got to look at a lot of things. So you know it it's >> and with regards to that question so the item here where it says no negative cash flow right in the response in our responses all of the the energy service companies in the response we have to put a cash flow performant together. So we cannot be negative in any one year. We've got to be positive every single year the full term 15 or 20 years. We can't have a negative cash flow in any one given year. So

084when you ask costs right those costs are going to be built in. So you're going to see what we're carrying in our model for those costs to and understand what impact it's having on your cash flow um on an annual basis overall. >> So let let me then slightly rephrase it. You gave us three plans. >> Yeah. >> Three possibilities. You're the experts here. If you were sitting where we are, which are the three? >> Well, the A most people go with the A portion because it just increases your the other two increase your costs, >> you know. Let let's put it this way in in other state in other states like New York State it's a you you select the partner and your service company up front and then you you run with them

085to develop finalize the project. What we find in the hybrid model, you may want to pay in a little bit more because what happens is the consultant comes in, he just says, "I want a flat fee 5 7% of the whole project whether he does that much work or not." It it remains to be seen, but that they usually put a flat fee in to cover themselves. And we find that sometimes he's probably maybe paying a few bucks more in the show. >> You try you try to stay with a a reputable outfit. I mean, we've got a we've got a you know, Seammens has one company that does this. you know, we've got a a portfolio that'll, you know, fill up this room. We're 165 years old. We're not going anywhere. So, you know,

086you try to stay away from the, you know, public service got twisted around the axle a couple years ago where they had purchased a whole bunch of companies and and they're all gone now. They're all gone. So you got to be careful about you know you trying to >> dream the expert you would have said plan A >> plan A but yeah I mean listen the biggest concern from from from municipality board side is they feel comfortable enough to be able to take these responses review them I mean you you may you might be able to take consultant on just to help review those responses and not use the hybrid model just have somebody come in and help take a look at them with you right if you're not comfortable enough to make the decision

087on your own that's really the main reason why you would bring someone in view those responses and help make that determination Go ahead. >> Yeah. Um just a clarification with these projects you have a guaranteed buyer for electricity because it's been presented actually was out of all this meeting that like if you don't do this now somebody down the street is going to do it knock you out of the box. That's not true >> in terms of solar you're asking. >> Yeah. No. Okay. >> I mean you there's no add there's no fear selling right. That's the last thing we're going to do is come in here and talk about >> fear. presented to our what we >> I would ask the friends of Wallish to hold off. This is for the board and and

088the town council. This isn't for you guys to ask questions. This is for the two governing bodies. So, if we could please hold off on the on the questions. I would appreciate it. You'll have an opportunity shortly. >> Um Okay. And and in a little more details actually as as the program will move forward. Uh so you would you pick the op you would have to do prelim audit right let's keep it simple we do that preliminary audit for the BPU then you would put this RP together whichever of the options the three options whichever model you want to use goods we do that we put it out you select this energy service company after you select service company what happens is they take that prelim audit and they bring it to fruition we we

089basically say we're going to take this and now we're going to come back to you with a final stamp sealed guaranteed project and program okay so we're going to say, "Here's what we've said there. Here's what it's actually going to be that we'll guarantee." Um, at that point, once that's developed, it's called the energy savings plan. That's where they under New Jersey legislation, they want the board or municipality to have a third party review that say they're okay with it. So, basically, somebody to check us and check our capital issues, check our map, say it's okay. Then, at that point, you would, if they say okay, then you send it to the BPU. The BPU looks at it, they give you a thumbs up, then we would move forward and say, "Let's go to contract."

090uh and then move forward into implementation uh construction and then once construction and commissioning are completed you would move forward into what we call the measurement verification which we spoke about and the the expectation in Jersey is it's your decision on how long you would like to do this measurement verification you can say just do it year one and then we'll understand that we feel comfortable going forward the rest of the term you can say we only want to do it for three years five years or you can say how much is it supposed to for the whole term so it's it's your option ultimately then the goal is doing this ESAP or EAL. >> Yeah. >> So we're going to reduce before we produce start producing. >> That's the that's it. That's what that's

091what we say. We have we have our uh our acronym RP reduce, produce, procure. So because if like for for instance if we utilize the roof of the high school and some other fields that we have and we produce say 2 megawatts of electricity >> but if we can reduce by 6 or 700,000 >> or or more then that's really where you were referring to Lou is really where a lot of our savings are going to come from >> and and now your solar your renewables can take over a larger percentage of your load. Correct. Right. So reduce the reduce your demand side >> and now build your renewables and now instead of taking over 10% of the load, you can take over 15% or 20% whatever it might be. So now you can start

092saying, "Hey, we're definitely more green. We're more renewable. Now we're that solar farm is or that solar panel system on the roof is worth x amount of dollars more because now we're generating more power to >> from your experience, has the level two to level three audit produced any more savings than the others? Um, it's more it's more fine tuning and massaging. Uh, you you usually won't see huge variations. No, but it's it's just a little more detail and it's usually just doing a deeper dive and spending more time and and weeding out and gutting out each and every component. Um, cuz understand under the prelim it's like, okay, we're going to put a new boiler in. We'll put this, you know, high level. Okay, throw this boiler in. It's 93% efficient. During the IG,

093under this IGA is level three. we're going to say, "Wait, we don't want to use 93. We use 96 or 97." So, we're going to do a little something different. So, we can pick up a little bit, right? So, it's really taken into >> But yeah, you're going to see 20 30% in my experience. The uh the co you talked about for the barrel field, the stock fields, or whatever, what um what would be the annual potential earning for that kind of production? We don't we don't I don't know how much gas is up there. So, see the thing with cogen is this. Ideally, the rule I you know I've done a lot of cogen plants and ideally you can generate power if you buy the gas for about 4 cents a kilowatt. So, you're

094paying 15 you're generating it for 4 cents. It's a win, right? But also the byproduct of a cogen plane is hot water. Okay? So, that's free. It would normally just go to the atmosphere. So if you've got a school that's got a swimming pool, you got a school that runs on hot water, you take all the hot water and you stick it into the boiler system. So now the cogen plane is making electricity at 4 cents plus you're getting free hot water. So your savings is on the electrical side, but also your savings is on the hot water that the gas that you using there. But if you don't have if you don't utilize all of the you know byproducts of a cogen plant, the hot water being one of them, then you got to

095look at other things. Do I can I get free fuel? Well, we certainly can from fereral field. How much? I don't know. We didn't study it, but you would have a organization come in and do that. Do an audit and figure out how much gas is there for how many years. Um, and once you figure that out, then it's a real win-win situation because I'm generating free power. I still got a byproduct. Ferrofield would be kind of rough. What would you do with hot water? Really nothing. But if I can generate a megawatt for freight and sell it, why not? You know, why not? That's the biggest thing. I did I did 17 cogen plants for PEMX for petroleum Mexico based on free fuel. So, you know, and it was a win-win situation for them.

096>> That's that would be a totally track. So, under EIP under EIP, we could do a a C we could do cogen CHP, but it's going to be smaller scale. You know, Joe's talking megawatt there, 2 megawatt. Under EIP, you're talking maybe 100 75. So, we're going to we would install it at school or somewhere there and and try to make emergencies and then maybe try to extend the term of this program for 15 to 20 years. >> But that would help with one of those other things, right? >> No, like what what the larger scale that Joe's talking about more than likely that's going to go that would go into the grid. So you want like what we would put in under Za program, it's going to go into this one building and and

097dump into your building where >> that's that's the only viable project here in town because none of the town none of you guys do not use hot water here for swimming pool or therapeutic baths or things like that. So it would not be a good candidate for any of the school processes here. If it was a hospital with, you know, physical therapy, John and I did a big project at Burke Rehab up in White Plains. They had all these therapeutic bats and so the cogen plant was generating all kinds of heat and so you know there's a good situation but again putting in feral field would be a great opportunity because it's free fuel and just keep pounding the electricity into the grid and sell it you know sell it for as much as you

098can get >> similar for the solar farm right that's what we would say for something like that that's a separate track >> yeah separate track >> that wouldn't run under an e program that would just be something that's a thing that kind of kind of is in the back of my mind um you know, I'll go off key. I'll talk to you about coach every day of the week. >> Um, okay. So, to wrap up EIP, um, so as I said before, BPU has coach, they have full oversight of the whole program. So, basically, they're there from start to finish. They're your go-to guys. Mike, Ed Mercer, uh, they're your main uh, compacts at the BPU. U,, as I stated earlier, they performed now, I think, over 2400 buildings. uh this this LGA audit. I

099think over 400 entities have actually uh taken advantage of this audit. This audit is paid for by the BPU. I mean it was 90 it's 90% paid for um for this original audit and as long as you move forward with EIP they pick up the remaining 10%. So that's how it works. It's a no-brainer. If anything you you have it done so you really see what we call a benchmark and understand where you compare it to some of your peers. How efficient is each one of these buildings compared to your peers? you know which is the biggest energy hog in the district. You can see by just looking at utility bills that's fine but you want to understand some other things about why right so you can kind of see why and maybe understand what

100maybe some things you can do so if anything at least you get that benchmark you get that audit performed and you know come talk to a couple of the rents like we can tell you explain a little bit more about >> yeah like John said it's free it's you know they cover 90% of it so you might want to take advantage of that situation because we don't see that it was ever done on the website so in this town >> an energy what >> an LG LG >> it's called the LGA I I have links on the back of this you'll see of where to go to find information about the LGA my team's contact information it's all here on the last slide so you'll have that here so >> that that's money well spent

101that will they will come down and like I like John said they'll come in here they'll send a bunch of folks in here and they'll sit there and they'll come in and say you know lighting boilers windows everything >> this year is this here is what's um you know some people scratch their head I mean you We have like 40 or so projects I think that have 40 to 50 projects now that have hit the street in five or six years. It's not a lot. Um you know it first came out and when it first came out not to the labor when it first came out they were respond they were relying on the districts municipalities to come up with an RFP. So everybody was coming having you know different language and this and that

102and paying people and and after like a year or two they finally said wait hang on. So they pushed everything to BPU. YouTube came up with standard documentation. So things have gotten a lot better. Things are starting to shake loose. Uh we've got a lot of RFPs that hit the street and you know the expectations going forward. There's a lot of these audits that are sitting on the shelf collecting dust that people need to start to talk about acting upon and it's really that simple. >> What would be the cost then of that doing an LG? >> Did I hear you right say 90% is >> correct? >> PPU does not pay for 90 I would say because they changed it where now there's really one vendor that does it, TRC, I think is the

103actual who who does the audits now. And I would chat with him. He can give you more details. In the past, it was bid out and these four or five vendors would bid and compete against each other and they would bid on a price per square foot pennies, you know, in a 10 to 20 cent range per square foot, I guess, is is what I can tell you. That's roughly what it would be. Now, I can't say one vendor, I don't know if they have a standardized pricing sheet now, Mike, or not, what he's what he's come up But the worst case is, you know, right now the way it's there, you'd be stuck with paying 10% of that entire cost of that audit. >> And if you went ahead with an EIP, then you

104wouldn't pay anything covered. >> Okay. >> So, but it's it's worth doing because you know where you are. >> Yeah. If you do the LGA% that we do put out then be covered under the EIP. Yes. >> Okay. >> And then understand any old incentives get rolled up over the EIP, right? To help improve the cash flow and the paybacks. So any incentives that can be procured through state uh you know pay for performance programs or or anything else that that's all determined under this audit uh it will be discussed during this LGA and then obviously finalized under this this final detailed investment grade audit. So that's all worked into the numbers as well. So any and all the senates available are part of the project as well. Okay. Um and then here's what I

105said. So, you've got you've got uh the link to start the audit and I hope these are also good links. Mike just did this in uh I think November or whatever. So, these are the links. Uh so, that's the link to to talk about how you get forward to start this LGA, right? That's the audit. Uh here's the boiler plate for the RFP as I discussed and we have it, you have this on the computer now. >> We loaded loaded on here. So, it's on the desktop. So these obviously, you know, step one, take a look at this and I would say take a look at this, look at this, then also reach out to Mike, right? Or Ed Mercer if you know these guys. Um, they're the guys you want to take a have

106a quick conversation with and chat about it. Okay. And then the RP that's standard. I mean, I can send you to it's a standard doc. Um, and then here's some links for incentives for clean energy you can talk about. So that's the solar incentives. Uh, here's some information about the whole program. And here's actual link to the legislation itself. And down here you'll see right Mike and Gary Finger and Carl. So Mike is the main guy go to Ed Mercer. So I know it's a lot and it kind of compounded the solar a little bit but I think I think from everyone's perspective understand that there's this other opportunity to reduce. >> Yeah. you know, and then >> anybody on the council have any other questions? >> No. Okay. >> In addition to the solar

107panels, can you does the EIP taking some cash combining it with other things like wind turbines or something like that? There's an opportunity. >> Yeah, you can we can try to work anything in. It's it's just it's a financial model. It's just got a cash flow and we can work it in. understand when we put solar into EIP, we can't take SRAN credits into the cash flow. So there's stipulations with EIP that we can't do. It's really going to stand on its own cost and savings and then get blended up and in. So there's some penalties like we talked about the 30% you can't take, but that's another penalty under EIP when you can't take those that SRX stream into the cash flow. >> Yeah, there are a lot you can still get them down

108the road, >> but we can't bake them in into our models to say here's how how sexy this thing looks, right? We can't we can't they don't want us to do that. there. You could do wind turbines, you could do a lot of stuff. You can like cogen plants are ideal. That's what they want. They want those things um because they're highly efficient, but the the solar and the and the wind stuff, you know, you're going to have some problems up here. I know living in town, unless you like get up on top of a mountain with the thermals. >> Yeah. >> I mean, there's different types of salt. There's different types of wind now, too. You know, everybody thinks of it as this giant propeller. Hey, we make the largest wind turbine in the

109world. Yeah, we have we have wind turb we have wind props that are 265 ft in diameter. Okay, they only spin, you know, two RPMs, >> but uh you know they generating you know 4 megawatts these things, but they have thick screws. Did you ever see the helical screws? They look like a little tiny screw that spins around. It's only about 4 ft in diameter. But so there's tons of you know it's it's a model like John said. It's a model. You got to put it all together. It's a whole big puzzle. And then you sit down with everybody and you go over it and you figure out what's going to be the best and the best payback. >> It's on the It's on this laptop. >> Stay safe on the laptop. So you guys

110>> you guys can Yeah, that's our computer. >> That's your computer. >> We can send electronic if you guys also want to, but it's here. [Music] >> If you want, I can forward it to Mr. Novak. I know is he's the only email I know right now, but I can forward it to him or >> I can bring it to his house. >> Do you guys want a copy of it? >> Any other questions? >> Wow. We're good, right, guys? >> All right. >> Well, we hope we help out and some kind of what it's all about. You know, making sure everybody's educated, have some kind of idea of what's out there. >> Can we make sure we send a copy to the town >> clerk? guest to distribute. >> Okay. >> Well, hey Lou,

111Tim, Ada, um, we'll also send a copy of this presentation to Antwinette. >> All right. >> Yeah. No, thank you for coming. >> It's been a It's been a learning experience for sure. I think that uh Oh, yeah. No, it definitely has been. I I We don't expect that you have a level question. So feel free to reach out to us further detail. >> Anybody wants to email me if you got questions. >> Okay. Go ahead. >> Before you discuss them, you open to the public. >> Uh, petitions and requests. >> Well, I think that's next on the agenda. >> Okay. All right. Yes, it is. All right. Uh, if you guys don't mind hanging around just for a few minutes in case, you know, I I >> Thank you guys. Um, >> I I

112think that uh I don't know about you guys, but I think that was well worth our time hearing. Yeah, >> I think I think it simple to understand because >> Okay. Petitioners who have requested to speak prior to the meeting will be first with five minutes for each petitioner for a period of 30 minutes and then time permitting other petitions and requests limited to 5 minutes per petitioner will be allowed until a 30 minute period transpires. Petitioners speaking during petitions and requests are asked to address topics listed in the agenda while speakers are asked to give their full name, spell their last name, provide their address. Speakers may not use the names of students during petitions and requests. Um, Barbara, has anybody requested to speak? Okay. So, I will now open it up uh to

113the public. Anybody have any questions? >> Sir, if you would come up to this podium. Thank you. My name is Robert Moss, uh, Moss. I do live in Bloomfield, but I am an open space advocate for New Jersey. I have, I think, two questions. Part of the property, the wet part of the wetlands are encumbered by a wetlands mitigation agreement. I believe that was uh from Ramipo College. I didn't bring the details because I just wanted to just >> hopefully we're aware. >> Okay. Okay. So, you know, you you have that >> we know. >> And is it possible to find out what the restrictions are on West Milford Townships uh 50% of the property? I couldn't find a deed for that in Patterson the other day. >> It's it's it's in the wills. Um

114you would have to reach out to town hall. >> Yeah. Okay. I can do that. Thank you. >> All right. Any anybody else like to speak? Celeste, you got center stage. >> I said you got center stage. >> Um, so I'm just speaking as Celeste Hampton and not as a member of the board of the Friends of Wallish Homestead. Um, but as a taxpayer, >> um, I'm really interested because I'm all for saving money. Uh this uh this project doesn't hurt anyone. It doesn't hurt any wildlife in any way. If it were to come to Wallish, it's clean energy. It generates has revenue generating potential that can help Wallish with other uh needed projects such as public facilities like bathrooms. Um, I'd like to point out that in my doing my homework, um, in Europe,

115they're using, um, a lot of these solar arrays in conjunction with, um, restoration of native flowers and natural pollinators. They're putting beehives in the in the uh, uh, fencing that goes around the uh, arrays. Um, it's clean, it's green. Um, for Wallish in particular, it seems to be a plan that might help us remediate some of the lead contamination uh issues. Um, it can be tucked away in the back of the wetlands where it's uh really not too obvious to the public that it's even there. Um, where it doesn't physically detract. My one of my concerns was this is going to look hideous right next to these beautiful antique uh buildings with that fabulous windmill which um is a very unique windmill. It's not just any old windmill. It's actually people have come all the

116way from Ohio just to see that structure there. Um so it doesn't detract from the historic aspect of uh of the buildings. Um, and in my opinion, Wallish has always been a farm in West Milford. And because of the wetlands, I followed the entire process of the library back when the library, you know, there was some land that was set aside and for the for the uh for the new library to be built, which was been built elsewhere. Why? Because it's wet. You can't build on wetlands in New Jersey. So, what are you going to do with this now? Solar farming is farming. We're modern people and our needs have changed from the last hundred years and it's farming. But you don't have any staff for farmers anymore. There's not too many folks that that

117like to do um actual real farming anymore. I think I'm one of the last holdouts. You don't need farmers for this. It stands by itself. You don't doesn't take staff is what I'm saying. And uh so you know from that standpoint it it it seems to um to be good. But what I'm just going to remind you that any mutual uh project um of such a huge nature as this one we're all going to have to work together and we're all going to have to meet the requirements of the will. And from my understanding of the will and my the attorney isn't here for me to double check. I'm sorry, but but uh my understanding is it's going to have to meet an educational need for this to work. So, are you guys going to

118be willing to pay for, you know, some sort of board that, you know, shows what a solar array is? And you might need to think about that as you're going through the massinations of a of a of a project if it it's going to happen at Walsh. But um I think it would make a cool demonstration exhibit. That was farming then. This is farming now. You know, hook them like that. Anyway, that's my two cents. Thank you for listening. >> Thank you, Celeste. Um anybody else like to speak? This is Yuber. >> I know. Maybe you'll hear me without it. Can you hear me? >> Yeah. >> Can you hear me? Can you hear me now? >> Yes, you hear you now. >> It's thing is going to fall. >> Okay, I'll just hold it.

119Um, at the March 1st board meeting, as most of you know, it was a very emotionally charged meeting because there was a lot of discussion about bullying and parents and a student spoke. Uh, it was the most watched board meeting video in the last few years also. So, you know, people out there are interested even though they weren't at the meeting. They want to know what's going on. At that meeting, Mr. Foody told the public that the board had been very preoccupied and focused on a superintendent search, but that he and the board members took bullying very seriously and that he had been contacted by numerous parents and had heard about some of the things that were going on in the district and he was not pleased. So, it's been about almost a year and

120the question that I have and I think other parents and the public have is what exactly in detail is being done to address some of the egregious bullying that's gone on here. Now, I know we've made applications for schools of character for all our schools. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about really understanding what's going on and addressing the bullying. Mrs. Dwire, you talked about the self- assessment scores and that you thought they needed to come up. The self- assessment scores are more of like almost a checklist of things that you're required to do like having a school safety team, programs, personnel, training, and things like that. They don't measure the effectiveness of actual programs and efforts really. And I had talked to Mr. Row about this and he agreed. He said it

121is more of a checklist. So it doesn't really reflect accurately what's being done to combat it. And so I'd like to ask what is being done. It's been almost a year since that meeting. >> That's it. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anybody else like to speak? >> Seeing none like to close petitions request. >> Thank you, Debbie. Second. >> Yeah. Second. >> Thank you. Thank you, Will. Uh all in favor? >> I. Any opposed? Okay. Um I I just want to quickly say um with regards to the use on the Wallish property, um the school board when that was left to us, that property was requested to be used for educational purposes. Not necessarily that we have to, but it was requested. That's not the same with the the township. That property had to be

122left for open space, recreation, or educational purposes. It would be our intentions that if we do anything that those buildings somehow we can incorporate classes there. So, you know, this isn't going to be something that I think the board rushes into at any given time. It's going to be something that we take and really think about. Um, and with the town council, we'll work together on that. So, you know, don't worry. We're not going to we're not going to ruin the place. All right. And it and these are we're in a discussion stage right now. as things develop. Maybe we don't go that way, maybe we do. But right now, we're just in the discussion stage. We're in the information gathering. So, it this is all new to all of us. This isn't something that's

123going to just happen overnight, guys. So, I just would like to let the friends know that. All right. Um >> Debbie, would you like to make a motion to adopt? >> I'm sorry. I always forget. Do I amend this now? I have two amendments to make or after the motion. >> Yeah, do it now so that when we adopt, we don't have to do it at Andy. >> Got it. >> I'm glad I don't have to retract. >> Okay. So, page three, personnel student affairs. >> Number one, the date will change. This is the recommendation to accept the resignation of Elizabeth Miller that is retroactive from January 6 and then on page real quick, Alex. Um, >> thank you. >> No, hold up. Hold up, guys. Um, should we take five minutes? >> Yeah, sure.

124>> You know, can we take five minutes? Okay, go ahead. >> And because I'll forget otherwise. >> And page 12. Page 12, there's something that's going that was slated to be voted on January 24th, budget and finance number six, the recommendation to award a contract to&m refrigeration of West Milford for the purchase of a single door upright freezer for Apua School in the amount of 3,800. That is being moved to tonight. That is on the hand carry. Okay. So, we're going to take it off next Tuesdays and move it to tonight. We just can't wait any longer for this freezer. So, we have to vote on it tonight and order it tomorrow and take that care of that. Those are the only changes I have. We can guess move it and then we'll take the

125recess maybe. >> Okay. Okay. Um any other any other further discussions by any of the board on anything on the agenda for this evening on the special action? No. Okay. Um then uh all in favor of a >> Oh, you're I'm you're right. I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> I'd like to make a motion to adopt the agenda as presented, including the hand carrying number one. >> I'll second that >> and the modifications. >> Modifications as well. >> Okay. Okay. Any any discussion on the agenda? No thanks. Okay. Uh, all in favor of adopting the agenda as presented. >> I. >> Any opposed? >> Okay. I'd like to take a uh no more than a 10-minute recess um while the council is here to have any quick discussions and then we'll start that the meeting back

126up. All right. All in all in favor of taking that >> Yeah, I can just hit the gavvel. Okay, then >> we're recessed for for 10 minutes. from student affairs a special action. If you would proceed, please. >> I'd like to make a motion to approve items 137. >> Any discussion? You good, Terry? I'm >> good. >> Okay. Well, good. Okay. Um, go to roll call then, please. Barbara. >> M. O'Brien. >> Yes. >> Mr. Yuber? >> Yes. >> Mr. Sidowitz? >> Yes. >> Mr. Drew? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Dwire? >> Yes. >> Mr. Foody? >> Yes. >> That concludes personnel students. >> Thank you, Debbie. Um, Mrs. Dwire, would you do education, please? I'd like to move the following items through second. >> Any discussion? >> Mr. Drew. Um, I would just like to

127commend the administration for item number three and trying to pursue the 2017 AP challenge. I just thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's the kind of thing we need to do. Good job. You know, let's go for it. That's great. Anything else? >> Okay. Roll call, please. Barbara. >> Mrs. Dwire. >> Yes. >> Miss O'Brien. >> Yes. >> Mr. Yuber. >> Yes. >> Mr. Drew. >> Yes. >> Mr. Sidowitz. >> Yes. >> Mr. Foody. >> Yes. >> You know what? Maybe the public doesn't know what the AP challenge is. >> Maybe brief explanation. >> Okay. Um, >> go ahead. I was going to >> The Route 23 Auto Mall AP Challenge is an annual event that takes place with local high schools, including West Milford. Students who are enrolled in an AP class and who

128take the AP exam and score a three, four, or five receive one entry into a lottery where they can win a a car from the auto mall. If they pass two AP exams, they get two entries. Uh so it's a wonderful day probably in late June or maybe even July I believe where all the students from this spring's administration participate uh at the auto mall on route 23 and there's some other smaller prizes as well. There's iPads, there's trivia games. So, it's a really nice academic program that we put together for our students who really decided to push themselves and not take a class that limits them, but rather challenge themselves with a class that is going to potentially earn them college credits. Okay. Um, we now move on to the workshop discussion. Um, and

129again, Debbie, you're up. >> Sure. have 29 items under personnel student affairs for next week's board meeting um presented to you this board. >> Do I have a second? >> Oh, actually you're right. I need a sec. Any discussion though? >> I do. Um number two on that. >> This is for our autoshop teacher. uh he changed these retirement date from June 30 to March 1 and we are we posted we have applications on our website and we will be interviewing shortly. We do have applications plural but not much more than plural. So maybe three at last count. >> I have three at last count and we're checking certifications to see who we can bring up for an interview. Uh and then we'll be moving forward. I I um I asked Barbara and she sent

130me a link um today. It looks like even if we didn't get somebody certified that we could get somebody who would that the state would certify to teach that CLA that particular class. If if I if I read that right, Barbara, um could you >> We're looking into it because I don't think we actually have the program where they allow the um the alternate types of certification whether we can, but that's something that Dr. Anamone and Mr. Novak really have to delve into since they're the ones that are involved with certification. I mean, it would be great if we can get somebody out of this pool, but it might also be something that if we look into for maybe any future things that >> I I think there might some there definitely options that they're

131going to explore. >> Okay. >> We're looking we're looking about as high and as low as we can. We think we have some certified people who won't have to go that go through that process. But in the event it doesn't work out, if we can't negotiate a contract, if the salary demands are too high, if whatever, um then that's something we'll have to also consider. Okay, >> just to follow up on that. Um, we had discussed this issue a couple of meetings ago about hiring somebody with no certification at all and how the votech and private schools can do that. I did write the resolution. I'm going to email it to Barbara tomorrow and she'll send it home uh on Friday to everybody to discuss and then we'll deal with school boards. maybe they'll lobby

132for us >> um >> to be able to hire anybody we want for these types of positions just like those other schools can. Okay, >> but it's very difficult to hire somebody with no certification has to meet a strict set of standards. Those other schools don't have that. >> Um >> those those requirements. So it'd be nice if we also >> we're under the same standards. >> Yep. >> We're not. But we'll see what happens. It it was it was brought to um my attention um that one of the freeholders um put an article in a paper and I'll send a link out to the board that said that uh what I what we had discussed about them being exempt and us not having to wasn't the truth. >> It's more true than not, you

133know. So, um, and they say that, you know, he went on to say about politics and all that, he was being more political than any anybody in the room. So, >> it was actually amusing. >> It it Yeah. So, I I will I will forward that out. >> Mr. I have a question for Mr. Rosselli. Is that essentially setting a precedent for us to do this down the line because it doesn't seem like this would help for the current search? >> Correct. There there's nothing not nothing but there's almost nothing we can do for the current surge. We for the most part need to hire a certified teacher uh from the state who's been certified. This would take a long time but it's something that we should do anyway. Thank you. >> Okay. Um any

134discussion on any of the other items under uh Oh, sorry, Steve. Um, I got a couple of questions, a comment. There's such a difference in income, you know, a few years out between skilled laborers and unskilled laborers that I think that and and given that we have, you know, such a high percentage of of high school graduates who do not go on to college. I think we need to do everything we can to continue to, you know, provide skills to to, you know, that opportunity to our students and and so whatever it takes to bring people in who can teach them how to build things and how to do plumbing and so on and so forth, that's just I think critical to this town and ought to be a clear part of the direction of

135of uh West Milford Township Public Schools. um question. There are a whole bunch of these that have TBD on them. I assume those will all be filled in by next week. >> That's our hope that we have them all filled in by this week, but we have a couple of uh people we still have to speak with about that. But >> on um items 28, 29, um it looks like we're looking to either hire or give a stipen to quite a number of people. Are these new requirements from the state of New Jersey? What what's going on? >> It's this is a position that we we created um with the board. Uh we we implemented this position last year. Uh it's a position that was existing probably about four or five years ago in the

136district as a as a one-time uh use of our uh of the federal ARA funds. Um last year we were able to um reorganize how we're using our title one funds to provide this position intervention specialist for our title schools uh to target our students in in uh in greatest need. Uh so we're able to do that again this year. We're hiring one uh intervention specialist for each of our title one eligible schools as well as two for the middle school. So, is this additional time that existing employees will spend on these things or we're looking >> These are um new new people, these are positions. Um a current staff member couldn't fulfill this because of the amount of time it it takes. This is somebody who's going to come in and they're going to

137work for approximately 50 days at the rate that's that's here on the agenda um to target us from March 1st to the time period around uh the administration of the park. So, we're really looking for the kind of additional tutoring help that we had a whole person doing last year, but now we're going to spread that across a number of different subject areas. >> Well, it's pretty it's pretty similar um to what we had in place last year. The length of time proposed this year is a little bit longer than we were able to do last year. Um the only difference is now that we uh last year it was uh just in the elementary schools. This year we also extended this opportunity to Mackipin School and we have a person coming in for um

138language arts and mathematics at at the Mackupin school. So that's the major difference between last year's program and this year's program. >> I assume it'll be a big help. >> Did we budget for these program? >> This is title. This is title title. >> No cost. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I love >> Yeah, this is a grant money from the from the feds. >> He's a happy camper now. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Um real real quick um when we talked about the um something that I wanted to ask in in that article um that Freeholder put out. He said we were offered grant money three years ago for our automotive program. >> Do you know anything about that? >> There was an inquiry from um PCTI that was when Dr. McLolin was here as

139the superintendent of schools. and we um it was looked at um we don't know the details because none of the people that um were involved, none of the employees are are here. So, we're trying to find out what exactly the details were. But maybe Dr. Annalone could shed some light on it. >> Not Not now. I can't. But we're trying to go backwards and see what type of offer was made, how much money, what it involves, what the benefit ultimately will be to our district. So, we're not sure now. Uh I really can't >> Yeah. No, I >> I recall that the only thing I recall was a satellite program. >> So, >> that's what kind of I got >> TCTI would be actually running it. >> Yeah. The article talked about them hiring a

140teacher. >> Yeah. Something >> you mentioned that in the article. It's >> But we're trying to reconstruct the the details because that happened in 2014. >> Yes. Yes. >> My website. >> Yep. >> Go ahead. >> We I don't think we ever finished the the list here. So I have a question about 26. We have some uh college students coming in to observe. I assume there's some sort of screening process. I just don't know what it is. And I was wondering if you could enlighten me. >> I don't know some form of criminal check or something. Um >> yes, most of that's hand very often it's handled by the university as well and we require man two testing in addition to that >> and then they send it over to us to with the application

141or something. >> Right. These are student teachers in essence. One is just going to do uh some observations and one is a you said 26. One is a student trainer, athletic trainer. >> But we get we get the results of whatever criminal check they do before they come here. Right. >> They have to pass it before they can come to the school. >> That's actually done by their school. Yeah. I actually once got a call from a student teacher who wasn't going to pass and asked me what he can do. He was >> out of luck. >> Um but so that done through their school. So essentially is it is it law passed or did >> is it law that the university has to do that or >> no >> cuz if not we should

142see it >> it's no >> to make sure they >> it's not law but >> these both these are both yeah they're both state schools. I don't know about New York State University but William Patterson does it because it's a state requirement and the kids won't be able to enter their program if they can't pass it. I only I know this because I looked into the issue with that one student. Um I don't know about the New York school so we could request it. Any other discussion under personnel? >> Seeing none, we'll move on to budget and finance. Mr. True. >> Uh first we have the uh special action hand carry regarding the upright freezer. So I'd like to move uh item one of the budget and finance hand carry to uh >> purchase the

143freezer. Second. Okay. Any discussion? Seeing none, roll call, please. Barber. >> Mr. Drew. >> Yes. >> Mr. Sidowitz? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Dwire? >> Yes. >> Mr. Yuber? >> Yes. >> Mrs. O'Brien? >> Yes. >> Mr. Foody? >> Yes. >> Next, we have the uh workshop discussions items. There are uh six items that will be brought forward. >> Five. >> We just did the hand carry on items. >> Oh, right. Of course. Sorry. Um I have a question. Not number five. Um, is this something that's standard? I I heard a rumor that we ran out of fuel at some point. This is for heating, right? Fuel oil. >> Yeah. >> Or this is not not for the buses. >> This is number two, fuel oil. So, this is heating oil. This is heating oil. Okay.

144We we use heating oil at UGL in Apua. >> Okay. >> And number one, the auditorium seating. I went back and rewatched the meeting from December 20th. >> Mhm. >> And I think we had a miscommunication at at least uh it seemed that way. We were asking about what the $820ome th,000 we had voted on for the auditorium renovation, what can that consisted of and the discussion kind of degenerated into a an explanation of the entire project I think instead. >> I I think so. >> And I don't think the people voting at that time understood that the seating was not included. So, we have a little bit of a problem there. Um, as far as our our past vote, I don't know exactly what you want to do about that, Mr. President, or anybody

145else. >> Well, seating was never part of the bid specifications. >> Yeah, >> it was it was budgeted in the renovation. The renovation budget would cover it, >> but our previous vote was based on inaccurate information. We do know the the dollar amount on that, don't we? Now, I mean, it's to be determined here, >> but do do we know that dollar amount? >> It's less than $200,000. I think it's $181,000. >> Okay. Okay. >> So, >> and their cushion seats, everything >> we talked about. We I I think what happened when we talked about a miscommunication, we had talked I was outlining everything that was part of the project that you said and that >> I think that there were a few different questions coming at me at the same time. >> Yeah. >>

146Seating was never part of the base contract for the renovation. >> Yeah. And and all in all, when we did discuss this though in executive or not in committee, um we were still about $300,000 under budget for the entire project which included the seating. >> So we got the 830, the 180, you know, the incremental architecture fees, some asbesus remediation, and it's it's >> I think the asbestous was 24. We had the 828 I want to say. >> I think I gave everybody an accounting of the um the budget. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, um we're currently looking at possibly doing a change order to add the sound system since we have come in under budget um substantially under budget. So originally when we talked about doing this project, we broke it into

147two phases, a phase one, phase two. And um the second phase was going to be um I think the the lighting uh the stage lighting the um the air the HVAC at behind the stage because the unit there is a problem and the um the sound system. So, we are have an opportunity to possibly do the sound system and and the architect is is looking into um what the cost would be to to bring the sound system um and a projection system forward as a change order using the funds that we have um that were budgeted. And and if we we don't do we also discussed about doing the piping runs >> for whatever wiring we would need. >> Yeah. We we would >> so that if we do it in the future, >> we

148wouldn't be tearing a place apart to put in the new >> because ideally they want a rear projection uh situation. >> We are they want rear projection at the auditorium at at the high school, right? >> That's one of the options. So, um, >> the the screen that's there is perfectly fine. >> The the actual screen, >> yeah, >> they used they used it the other night >> servicing the projector that diffult more so than if we had a rear projector >> high ceiling. Yeah. >> And also rear projection does offer some additional uh options when it comes to presentation compliance. So, there's still some things that we had anticipated doing in phase two that we may now be able to do using the additional monies that um are still in the in the >>

149Can you possibly send us out by email the original budget because I don't remember seeing it, but can you send us out the original budget that you had done and then also basically what you think we're actually going to be paying? But I attached that to your minutes from budget and finance from last week. >> But the actual budget though, what we budgeted is in our budget book from last year. >> Yeah. The individual breakdown, but I think I had included that total dollar amount in the breakdown that I gave everybody. >> Yeah. Because you had given us the the estimates that we received. >> Yeah. Here. >> I don't have that with me. But um >> this here, this page here, the original budget was $1.5 million. >> Okay. >> Actually, I I didn't

150get that. Did you get that, Steve? >> Yeah. >> In budget and finance. >> Well, it was in the online. >> Oh, the online Yeah, >> this was attached to the back of your minutes. >> So, if you got hard copy minutes, it's in the back. >> All right. Super. Thank you very much. Yeah, we're the auditorium seating was included in the expenditure. So, we're still talking about 300 approximately $395,000 that is available for some additional work that could be done at the auditorium. Mr. Drew, I guess I have uh two additional questions based on the presentation we saw. It seemed to me that it would be really worthwhile to do the LGA um probably as soon as possible since we only pay for 10% of that anyhow. And that may help direct us with

151regard to I know we're considering windows and various other kinds of things, but but maybe we ought to look at an energy audit to say, "Oh, that money might be better spent on boilers or so on and so forth." And and I'm I'm suggesting this now because I know we're going to be considering the budget to budget finance for February. Yeah, we could. That'll give me some time because I know we did have an audit done. We had a couple of audits done. We had an energy audit done through the state of New Jersey. I think somewhere around 2012. >> He couldn't find any records of it. Mr. Plano >> I I remember we did something I remember we did something and um to go to the next phase it was going to be a

152pretty costly proposition. We also have done lighting upgrades um through PSENG. Um and I think that that was two years ago. Um all of the schools got lighting upgrades like in here. Um except for Aptua and UGL. Uh we just did UGL's uh No, we just did Aptuas um this year. >> Um you approved that. >> Yeah. Are these LED lights? >> I think that No, those are fluorescent ones. >> Those are fluorescent, but the LED, the fluorescents look the same, but the lights different. So, I think that >> I think you're right. You're saying >> we we did we did most of the schools. >> Yeah, I do. >> In the allpurpose rooms um >> with LEDs, >> I think. So, I know that PSG came in and we were they paid 80% of

153the cost for the upgrades. I have to go back and look >> because I don't remember every detail. >> Y >> but we just did the LEDs over in Apua school and I think we did UGL last year, two years ago. >> Yeah. Because when UGL and Apu were excluded, we got a price for doing UGL. So, we did do UGL. So, we have been trying to um >> which is great, but I think I'd like to know that too if they think they're going to find all these energy savings. >> Yeah. >> And it turns out we've already done them. That probably >> we've done quite a few things. Um we've done quite a few things. So, let me try to find that energy audit that I know that we commissioned a few years

154ago. >> I'm surprised that PSEG when I don't even think they're a supplier of RC gas. Right. And and because of that, they had the money that they had to spend. So any of their customers >> Okay. >> any of their gas customers would qualify cuz electric were with Rockland. >> Yes. No, I know. >> I know. >> So um because of gas, we qualified in um eight of the schools, >> right? Six. >> Four. Oh, that is all >> four and yeah, we qualified in six because UGL and AUA are in oil heat. >> Yeah. >> So, they did not qualify and that's why we had to do them outside of the the the program. So I guess I'm suggesting then either we find the audit we've already done so we have some idea

155of what we can still do to say >> I have to look for the >> or we have a special action >> that isn't in these you know six items now to start a LG >> a one way or another I want to I'd like to have some idea of where we've got potential >> I have a feeling I have a feeling that the company in order for us to register with the state when that audit was done, we would have had to pay a fee. I'm not quite sure, but I remember there was money involved and we didn't do it. So, that's why I'm thinking it was done somewhere around 2012, 2013. So, I'm gonna go back and I'm going to try to find >> I if you could, Barbara, if you could let

156us know any other paperwork from PSEG if they did put in LED lighting. I kind of don't remember that. That's >> Yeah, I'll pull that out. That's that's easy stuff because that was just done. >> You know, if if we go when you go from fluorescents to LEDs, your energy consumption, tremendous drop. >> Tremendous drop. So even though we might have paid if they paid 80%, we paid 20%. It would still be worth it for us to go to the LED fixtures if that's that that would be I guess one of the probably the bigger things out of the whole thing in the district would be the LED lighting because it's an initial cost up front, but those bulbs last forever. So then, you know, there's labor savings. There's there's a whole bunch of things

157in that. All right. >> We definitely did actual school because they just finished doing the install. >> On LEDs or >> Yeah, LEDs. Okay. >> And we're getting a a credit now. We're going to get a rebate for the the install. >> Okay. >> I I I believe I saw it, but I don't remember off the top of my head. We're We're supposed to get some answer back on the cost to bring Hillrest Um, when we get I'm checking on the the audit. The sampling was supposed to be completed. The report for the sampling was supposed to be completed, >> I would say, this week, >> right? So, I have to find out what the status of that is because they needed that in order to complete the the um recommendations of bringing hills up

158to up to they needed to know what kind of um abatements were going to be needed. >> Exactly. >> In order for them to get >> So, you think you're going to have that? >> Yeah, the sampling was done. >> Tell us next year. >> The sampling was done. So, I'm hoping that the report is going to be available to the engineers, the architect and engineers sometime this week so they can start working on or finish. >> They certainly won't have an answer by next week, but maybe we can approach that. >> I could find out how long it's going to take for them to do their part once they get their >> Boy, that would be nice to know. >> We need to know that word. >> Thank you. >> The the clock is

159ticking, but Okay. Um, so we did budget and finance. Do we have any other questions on budget and finance? Um, one, we have some policies that we're going to be voting on. Um, 24th >> for second reading on the uh, yeah 24th. I'll present items one through 13 for discussion. We should have all read this already and hopefully and had a discussion on it. Is there any because we had the first reading so this is just a formality now at this point unless there's something that we really need to discuss. So okay um Terry education for work for there's no move. Yep. very excited about the um high school the art history program um and what was presented in the English >> um truly is moving our curriculum forward. So, I'm very happy to see

160that. Um >> I'm excited. I I went to the um the high school uh orientation for parents coming in from the middle school uh last week and I was impressed with the explanation on on the uh the English courses that are being offered. They're really trying to get it tailored so that the students are interested keeps to keep their interest and if they keep their interest they're going to learn more. >> Yep. Okay, I have one question. Why would we be approving the addition of Ridgewood High School to the list of board approved field trip locations? >> I had that same question because it's not on the list. >> No, I just >> every other >> for the people who weren't there. >> Okay, thank you. Um we had a um trip. It was the

161history bowl was scheduled to um compete at the Ridgwood High School and then the main office of the high school checked the approved field trip list and determined that Rididgewood High School was not on the um okay >> on the approved list. So following procedure there was a discussion about can we allow this trip to go or not. Common sense prevailed and Dr. Anamon approved the trip and we are approving this retroactively so our students can compete in the history bowl and we talked about it at a committee um about the process of drafting a little um overarching language to improve uh include in our approved field trip list so that this type of um issue going forward um doesn't doesn't occur again. >> Okay. Is that it? Under education. >> This is the uh

162$170 book that we're approving. >> Looks like a very good book to the school district. >> Absolutely not. >> It is paperback. >> And I can't help but wonder why we got to pay 5% shipping when, for example, we could buy the same book from Amazon for the same price. No shipping. Well, unfortunately, we have bid thresholds and Amazon um we're very selective about you using Amazon because of our bid thresholds. We we Yeah. >> What does that mean? We can't pay less. >> We we we have a threshold that we have to meet. >> And it's since Amazon is one vendor even though you're buying it from a separate vendor. If we hit our bid threshold of $40,000, it's an aggregate number. So I can't I'm very selective about what I can buy from

163Amazon. >> But I mean this this purchase price is 4410. >> But that's only one thing. >> But we buy we buy that much from Amazon that it it goes over. Last year we had to stop the purchasing because their prices were so good that a lot of books we were buying a lot of the soft cover uh supplemental reading books and we got to the bid threshold and I had to I had to stop purchasing and >> so we can't pay a single company more than a certain amount. Is that what we're saying? >> Yeah. >> What about roof contractors and I mean you know >> but they go out >> seems like there's no end to how much we pay them. But that's a bid. I >> if if if I could >>

164It's a different type of purchasing. >> I understand the state has a rule and >> it's an aggregate. So yeah, this is only $4,000. >> No, I get it. And so aggregate all you can't price. Let's spend more on that's why we we that's why we use cooperatives. And what we've tried to do is, you know, if you do a lot of purchasing through Amazon, you'll see that they have individual, you'll know what um vendor they're going to be buying from. >> And what we've done is is in certain situations, we've been able to go to the vendor and if they purchase, if they're willing to accept a purchase order, then we could buy things separately from that particular vendor >> because it's usually a one person. Technically, if there were a corporation, for instance,

165if they bought it off of Amazon, then sold it to us for a dollar a book more or something like that, we could use that separate vendor. >> What I'm getting at is it's it's a different subject. >> So, is the only drawback of is having to put out to bid purchase? No, because you'd have to go out to bid for every purchase that you use from Amazon. >> But if you save >> you, it would end up costing you more money and creating the bid documents >> and and going through the bid process and you're not going to >> well, they're not going to bid, you know, >> you're not going to get trust me when I tell you >> we that's why we belong to cooperatives. We try to to use cooperative purchasing

166as much as we possibly can because they've already taken the questions out of the aggregate spending that we have. That's why we belong to so many different cooperatives. We belong to Edata. We belong to Hunter. We belong to Morris Co-op. We belong to Educational Services of New Jersey. >> We belong to as many co-ops that we possibly can. Even on a national level, we belong to co-ops in order to >> So the co-ops are already bid out. >> Yes, the co-ops already bid out. So we as a member of a co-op, we can >> we can, you know, utilize >> I don't necessarily like Amazon or Bezos, you know. I mean, they're the new evil empire putting businesses >> and when you talk about 5% shipping charge, >> don't get me started. It would help

167me. >> Having to avoid saving money just doesn't Yeah, >> that kind of cracks my skull, you know, just there's something wrong with that. >> I I I think you need to I need to I think it's important for me to tell you too that my staff um is all over this stuff when the purchase orders come through. Um we just went through this last week with Hton Mifflin because they put a 10 and a half% service charge, shipping and handling charge on and >> sales tax. I've seen that come from bills. >> Well, technically we don't pay sales tax. >> They've I've seen that on a few bills and you had it crossed off. >> Right. So, we we scrutinize everything and we've actually gone back and forth with H Mifflin to save quite

168a few thousand dollar this past school year >> for large or we didn't pay 10%. >> We didn't pay 10 and a half%. We paid 6% on that. But we had a a book order earlier for the biology books and they were charging us 10 and a half% which was over $3,000 and we fought them on it and we got it down to 5%. >> Good. >> Um, question. What is the anticipated useful life of this paperback book? Are we expect are we expecting we have book tape >> you know they'll put on I've seen them in the book closet books from actually I was joking around Sharon West I found books that had my name on the inside from the uh English department and the book was still in great shape >> paperbacks >>

169okay the subject matter will be relevant for at least a decade. >> Yeah. Well, I was just wondering because I I could really see I I see what my boys do to a paperback book. >> Yeah. I got some of those little covers. >> Still an adult. >> I would I would not Mrs. uh just in the in the audience so maybe she can answer that would be >> kids in this class are not going to be kicking >> to generalize with the students in the advanced computer science >> going to be dropping snow and throwing down >> all right >> see there you go >> okay any other any other discussions on uh anything under educ ation. I'm going to then move on to old old business unless we had something old business. Uh

170just a a quick point. I I think it's important in just reading and discussing everything from AP to interventionist that something is made known that the middle children are getting taken care of. I I felt like I was somebody who was stuck in the middle of my days and I neither received help because I was exceptional nor was I struggling enough. So just uh to throw that out there as a point as uh my thinking. That's it. >> Okay. >> Any anything else under >> motion? See, I'd like to close all business. >> Second. Thank you, Will. Uh, all in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Okay, we're going to move on to old business. I mean, new business. Um, and we have a resolution. >> This a resolution. January is school board recognition month,

171and we have a nice resolution here that we're going to read out at the next meeting. I can read it out if it's all right with the with the president. >> And we do have some >> for this meeting. >> Oh, it's for this meeting. >> Yeah. I'm sorry. Well, then I'll read it now. And do we have our >> uh Did they go home? I thought that they went home. >> You should have gotten already the Yeah, that was it was in a packet >> and a nice sheet of a nice sheet of paper. >> How about if we all stand in a circle and just pat each other on the back? Well, let me see if I have yours here. >> Each other motion to approve that. >> There's a letter of commendation

172>> written on nice paper >> that every board member gets. >> See, see what she's trying to do is what you've been wanting all the recognition, Steve. >> All right. Should I read it, Jim? >> Yeah. >> I'd like to go ahead. the board members put a lot of time in and uh this is just sort of the tip of the iceberg of what of your time commitment. You do a lot of committee meetings, a lot of readings, a lot show up a lot of district events, lot of town events and whatnot. So whereas the New Jersey school boards association has declared January 2017 to be school board recognition month, a time when all residents can acknowledge the contributions made by our local school board members. And whereas the West Milford Board of Education is

173one of more than 581 local school boards in New Jersey, which sets policies and oversees operations for public school districts. And whereas the West Milford Board of Education embraces the goal of highquality education for all New Jersey public school students. And whereas New Jerseys local school boards help determine the educational goals for approximately 1.4 4 million children in pre kindergarten through 12th grade. And whereas New Jersey's 5,000 local school board members who receive no remuneration for their services act as advocates for public school students as they work with administrators, teachers, and parents for the betterment of public education. And whereas school boards strive to provide the resources necessary to meet the needs of all students, including those with special needs. And whereas boards of education provide accountability to the public, they communicate the needs of

174the school district to the public, and they convey to school administrators the public's expectations for the schools. And whereas New Jersey can take pride in its schools, which rank among the nation's best in key achievement indicators such as a national assessment for educational progress scores and the preparation for college through advanced placement offerings and SAT assessments. Now therefore, be it resolved that the West Milford Board of Education does hereby recognize the services of local school board members throughout New Jersey as we join communities statewide in observing January 2017 as school board recognition month. And be it further resolved that the West Milford Board of Education urges all New Jersey citizens to work with their local boards of education and public school staffs toward the advancement of our children's education. Thank you. >> Thanks, Alex. Um,

175is there anything else under new business? >> Go on. >> Yeah. Um, I'm tired of playing the motion to extend the meeting game. >> Uh, I would like to I Last year there was a motion to move the end time for the meeting from 11:00 to 10:00. >> Oh, so we're back to normal. >> Oh, great. Never mind. >> But I want to get out of here as soon as we can. >> Well, yeah. We want >> And you're delaying the meeting now, Glenn. >> Had had the presentation not gone on for a little over an hour and with a 10 or 15 minute break, it would now be about 8:25. >> I didn't realize we had reset to 11:00. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yes. Um, so the Alex the motion that Alex read,

176would somebody move that please? >> I'd like to make a motion to approve the resolution that was presented by Dr. Henry. >> Okay. Second. >> Second. Second. >> Thank you, Will. >> Um, all in favor of the resolution as read. >> I Any opposed? >> Thank you. Anything else under >> new business? See, I'd like to close new business. >> Okay. Um, all in all in favor of closing new business. >> I >> Any opposed? >> Now, it does say adjournment on here, but >> we have a hand, >> but we're going we got to go to executive session. >> Before we do that, we should do another uh public session because the first one was only four items on the agenda. So there should be one for everything. >> Okay. >> I don't I

177know there's not a lot of public here, but >> Yeah. All right. >> All right. >> So you can just read the same one and take out the one about agenda item. >> Yes. Yes. >> Um Okay. Petitions and requests. Petitioners requ who have requested to speak prior to the meeting will be first with five minutes for each petitioner for a period of 30 minutes and then time permitting other petitions and requests limited to 5 minutes per petitioner will be allowed until a 30 minute period transpires. Petitioners speaking um well yeah I guess I can scroll that all speakers are asked to uh give their full name, spell their last name, provide their address. Speakers may not use the names of students during petitions and requests. Would anybody like to speak? >> Thank you. >>

178Okay. >> See, I'd like to close petitions and requests. >> Second. Uh, all in favor? >> I second. Um, >> all in favor? I. Any opposed? Okay. Um, one, the resolution for executive session. Would you read that again, please? >> All right. Hold on. Let me get them. >> H2. >> The one at the beginning. >> Yep. >> It's 9:40. >> Okay. Oh, yeah. uh move at 9:40 p.m. uh to go into executive session for the purposes of uh discussing a student matter hib matters of attorney client privilege Hillrest and I added something else but personnel >> and personnel. >> Okay, >> second. >> Uh all thank you all in favor. >> Any opposed? >> Okay, we will adjourn in executive session into the back room. [Music] give us the honors on page six under

179special action. I'd like to move to approve the following item. The recommendation of the superintendent to the following resolution. Whereas in accordance with the requirement set forth in PL2 2010 chapter 122, the West Milford Board of Education has received results of HIV investigative reports on January 17, 2017. Therefore, it be resolved that the West Milker Board of Education approves issuance of written decisions affirming, rejecting, or modifying the superintendent determination in the following. Actually, it's only one. >> Yeah, we're just I was Yeah. >> Superintendent's determination in the following HIV investigation report number 2017 E6 substantiated. >> Okay. So, I have a second. Thank you, Debbie. Um, any discussion? Okay, roll call, please. Barber. >> Mr. Drew, >> yes. >> Mr. Sidowitz, >> yes. >> Mrs. Dwire, >> yes. >> Mr. Yuber, >> yes. >> Miss

180O'Brien, >> yes. >> Mr. Foody, >> yes. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. All in favor? >> Any opposed? >> Okay, the meeting is officially adjourned. Thank you everyone. I hope that the uh presentation was informative. >> Um >> next time use fewer abbreviations. >> Say that again. >> Tell them next time use fewer abbreviations. >> Um who is going to be anybody going uh tomorrow night? >> Yes there. >> Okay. To um what is that? the S County School Boards Association. Where is >> It's not going to be at the Brownstone. It's going to be >> at the police and fire. >> The police and fire academy. Thank you. It's right next to >> Well, then you got to teach me how to do that. >> Thanks, Joe. [Music] >> Good night. >> I'll

181see you tomorrow. >> Thank you, Barbara. >> Good night.