Boonton Township Board of Education Regular Meeting 03/18/2026

001I do. >> You know me. >> I'd like to call this meeting to order. 7:30 p.m. This is a regular session of the Wen Township Board of Education held for the purpose of transacting appropriate board business. In compliance with chapter 231 laws of 1975, the notice of this meeting was advertised in the Mars County Daily Record. Copies of the agenda of this meeting were appropriately posted and made available to the public. >> Mrs. Barack >> here. >> Mr. Brandon >> here. Mrs. Cabana. >> Mr. Chen >> here. >> Mr. Her >> here. Mr. Johnson. >> Mr. McBride >> here. >> Mr. Mills >> here. >> Mr. Rosenberg. Also present. Mr. Superintendent Principal. I see our student representative Gina Brandler. We have a quorum. >> Please stand for the pledge. United States of America to the

002stands nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. >> Turn it over to Mr. Fatini. Thank you for the girls basketball team for coming out and coaches and congratulations on your county championship. >> Thank you. They shoot, they score over and over again. Congratulations. Very quickly, I'm just going to turn it over and thank uh Mrs. Lo and Mrs. Gaffne for the great job they did coaching. So you >> take down a few things but I just want to thank everyone uh for for coming out tonight and uh behalf of the players the coaches and the family I want to thank everyone the board of education for this incredible honor. This is amazing for us to be here and for you to acknowledge it is even better because it shows the girls how much

003you appreciate them. So to me and coach Daffany, that's what we're about is to show the appreciation to the kids. So um this championship is more than just a win. Um it just represents of all the hard work that these kids have put in. um every practice they bought into coach and I's um philosophy and that is the more the harder you work you know the more you the more you put in is what you get out of something every day they came to a practice wanting to get better and wanting to get that better they you know we were on a mission okay and they bought into our philosophy um they showed up every day. They uh improved to compete and most importantly they supported each other. Um to our players, okay, you guys

004should be incredibly proud of yourselves. Okay, you guys did all the hard work. He can sit on the side, but you have to give yourself the credit for performing and putting your heart and soul into every practice and every game. So coach and I want to thank you guys for that. Um this is nothing what I heard. Okay. So and just to the parents and the family, thank you for all your support. You know, it's it stems from you. Okay. You get them to practice, you pick them up, you know, it shows the commitment. Um one thing we did try to work on is getting them up in the um early in the morning not to be late for school. That was part of our you know our start of our day of our team

005commitment and you know we're working on that still right girls. >> Anyway um but I just want to thank everyone. I want just to thank Coach Gaffne. I could not have done this without her. She You guys are so lucky to have this woman because every single day we would talk or communicate and she's just brilliant and she just helped so much. She gave me so much confidence to just do what we needed to do. It wasn't just me. Okay, I can take any credit of being a head coach, but I couldn't have done it without her. Okay, SO THESE EIGHTH GRADERS. OKAY, I they have been working together since they're in kindergarten. Um I am a good friend of Linda's Linda Lent and I want to say thank you Linda >> for seriously getting

006these group these girls because they have molded help mold the seventh graders and the sixth graders. They are leaders that are going to start that starts our program to success. And my eighth graders, I I can't thank you enough because we are going to take your leadership to the next level of every year to come. Okay. So, um I did coach help Linda um a little bit with these girls. So, I was familiar. It was a great transition for me and thank you for giving these girls something to you know the leadership that we are going to keep a high standard. So that is it. I couldn't do it without it. >> That's it. >> Yeah. I just um I just wanted to um increase our playoffs and to talk about our season as well.

007um an amazing group of girls. I had the pleasure of coaching them as sixth graders, seventh graders, and eighth graders. The the eighth grade this year, and it's the improvement and the um the way that they worked with the other girls and helped them and you know, we would give them clipboards on the bus and they fill the blades. They were just like a family. They were just amazing together. and um what they taught our girls and playing to play with some of the younger players is only going to carry through for next year and help them next year. I know we're going to hear about this uh eighth grade group as as a freshman playing um on the team and starting and running or the three-point shooter from the outside or playing under the

008basket. Um I know we're going to hear great things. Um, eighth graders, our captains, would you uh let's just put your hand up, please, Annie Bush, and Charlie who be here today. Charlie, seventh graders, um, Ashley, St. Talia Galloway. We um had to challenge this team because we wanted them to get better and we felt like our schedule was not going to be hard enough. looked towards uh tabing on him to get us a game for group two with the four schools and the girls did amazing playing. It was a really good experience. They beat um uh Dendel and we we were in the game and we lost only by five. We beat Mountain Lakes who's a group two school by six points. Um they really really played strong, played well together. Um, and they

009used what was in practice in Zen and it was just amazing. So, I'm really proud of them. I'm so happy that we keep celebrating the team and their efforts because it's something that is very deserving of this girl. Can anyone guess when the last basketball banner was won you girls? >> 2008. >> You paid attention. Very good. 2008. 18 years ago. >> So, it's been it's been a long time. So, um again, we're really proud of you. I just um I always like to show um the winning um you know, at the end of the game against Bloomingdale. Bloomingale we lost by one point the first game of the season. They had played three. They were um you know, we weren't ready for them. We we just were kind of caught off guard. Um and

010we were down by a lot. It was like 20 points at halftime. And we came back and what was down? and we lost by one. So um then in the g the second game against them we lost by 11. We won by 11 and then the final was just an editor thriller a coach's aida because we sat on the bench and it was just you know 333 etc. And what happened at the end of the game was the girls um they were in a position where they had to foul us to try to get the ball back and they kept fouling us and putting us on the line and our girls were making their shot. So we just were spot on and it was just a very exciting game. So this is actually the end

011of the game um when we won and enthusiasm and we had a whole bus trip with peace girls and the the um the police escort and it was just a very exciting day. Good. Three, two, one. >> Come on, girl. very excited. I mean, two banners in one school year. This is just amazing. So, congratulations. Congratulations. >> Well, I heard you say that two banners in one year and that just tells what type of group these girls are. Sixth, seventh, and eighth. It's not, you know, this group is amazing girl. SO, THANK YOU for having us. >> Thank you for having us. >> We need our captains, um, our leaders, Luchi and AB, to come up for a sec. >> Sorry, we're not going to be long. >> Oh, it's good. Okay, then take all

012the time you want. like say that >> such a good season and that we don't we wouldn't take anything back and just know love us so much and we love you too. So thank you Yeah, we're just like so like unbelievably grateful to like have you guys as our coaches because like like you're just we're just so lucky to have you guys because you guys care like so much about us. Like you go to games and scout like 20 minutes away like you're always there. Like if we have any problems you're always there. You two always come like ask us like if we're okay and we have always have talks like in your office like that. >> What comes first? >> Work. We always have 10 minute little like homework time before practice and everything.

013It was just like so awesome and like being part of like these teams were just like just like the best part of this. >> Awesome. And I think the the best part about coach Jody is the positivity. She tells you, "I appreciate you." She makes you feel so good about yourself and about your ability and you just want to do better. So, I mean, she's just >> That's life, guys. >> Right. >> So, we're going to move on to a presentation by Mrs. Bartell and Mrs. over there. That's our >> last step. Right now, we have one of our students, Mila D. Roa, passing out flyers that we made for everybody. You want to take my pass? Um, Mila is going to say something about the music department here at RBS. And then she's going

014to go she's been here for a very long time. >> Very, very long time today. Should we just sit around for the first? >> Oh, Mila, we know you have some thoughts. Would you like to go? So, you can go. >> So, my name is Mila and I've been a student at RBS since I was in preschool and that's 10 years. So, RBS is very important to me. Um, I joined a band in fourth grade and I joined the upper grade chorus in sixth grade. I've always loved to sing and play instruments, so it is an amazing opportunity to be able to do these things at RDS during school day. The ability to express my passion at school is an opportunity every child should have. Mrs. Martell and Mrs. Kobart have helped me build my

015musical skills, and I'm grateful for their guidance and knowledge throughout my time. That's it. Uh so the first little blurb in our flyer that we passed out to you is about all the concerts we do here LBS uh between ML and myself. Uh we kind of put them in chronic order as the school year goes. So we start off with the band during the Halloween grade in grades five 6 through 8 Veterans Day for the entire prek and fifth grade. An AM winter concert which is grades four through five. a PM winter concert for our upper grades 6 through 8. These are going our schools month which happens every March for grades preK through 2 as well as a PM spring concert for our upper grades 6 through 8 and AM spring concert for the

016third through fifth graders and then at the end of the year we do the high note festival performance for the band and chorus at >> Yep. Uh other events that we participate here in RBS are the bianial district, that's a hard word to say, biianial dinner and band uh concert with Mountain Lakes. Uh we take all grades five, six, seven, eight over to Mountain Lakes. The fifth and the sixth grade of RBS is mixed with the fifth and sixth grade of mountain lakes. We practice together and perform two hours later. So it is that day we practice together and then that evening, same thing for uh seventh and eighth and FOD actually feeds the kids when we're over there at Friends of the Arts. So that's a great evening for them. Uh we have an

017annual district coral day for our course members in grade six through eight and Mrs. Bartell also have helps out uh with the wax museum uh that actually just took place in grade four. Yep. Some outside events that we participate in, we have the all area New Jersey area band for grades five through eight area course for grades six through our region band for the upper grades as well, seven and eight, honors band for grades five and eight, five and six, excuse me, and then region course for grades six through eight. We also participate in the with the New Jersey uh Gentality program doing worship on the arts where we take a dozen or so sixth to eighth graders who specializes in different arts field of visual performing instrumental vocal acting as well and um some

018of the events we put as asterisks next to because Mr. school and myself are required to be part of the National Association for Music Educators for our students to participate in these events outside of school. So, we have to pay membership to this organization. So, the kids have the opportunity to audition and showcase our students. Not only do we have to have membership in the national uh the National Association for Music Educators, we also have to participate in the event um which is usually means it takes up a Saturday. Um I did three last year Saturdays myself last year for the honors events and Mrs. Cartell I did one this year as well as a all day event all the rehearsals as well. So besides being members of this outside organization, we also have to

019deal with. So I'm just going to skip down to the bottom the percentages of students in the program. Uh band percentage participation percentages have had a beautiful range of 39 to almost 50% of the uh participants I have uh access to. So from fourth to 8th grade almost half the kids some some great years a little lower on other years co we're not even going to talk about that year 2021 um same thing for the chorus the chorus is on the rise as well having her best year ever this year fantastic for us um so the numbers have gone up for me they've stayed consistent for her they've been steadily going up which is fantastic and uh between the two arts programs we are the most participated in uh school organ organization. For instance, the

020girls basketball team was just here, every single one of them in the public course in games. >> Yeah. >> So, not only are our students athletically talented, but they're also so we're making very full well well-rounded people here at the school. >> Yeah, of course. Regina knows very well. Um so one thing we'd like to highlight not only uh do we think that we're running very uh high quality programs here at the school uh we'd like to have a very quick discussion about the facilities um that both of us have uh we are currently housed in the center of the building towards the back of the building over by the art room. Neither of us has a window. >> Okay. So when it's snowing people are like it's snowing. We're like that's great. We have

021no idea what that looks like. Um Mrs. Bartell need to share the space of about 3/4 of my large percussion instruments are actually currently living in Mrs. Bartell's classroom. So when I do have to have a percussion class, we are constantly going in a side door to grab those things to then bring them into my room to then go back into that side door to bring them to bring them back. So that's been a little bit of a a balancing act a shuffling act that we have to do. Um, not only does it disturb her class, it also uh reduces the amount of class time that I have. Um, in the morning when we have full band rehearsals, we're talking about 50 kids. That has to get set up by the uh custodians in the

022morning. They're very helpful. The chairs are set up at night. The stands are done in the morning and then they help me get all the professional equipment into the upper gym. After we're done, that has to then go back into wherever it goes. And that's on the kids to do. Um due to that we are also losing time in rehearsals just between the setup and the breakdown. We have even though I like to say we start at 7:10 we usually start at 7:15 7:35 we are packing uh packing up. It is a 20 minute rehearsal where it's just we have everybody together get it in and now we have to break it down. So, it's quite uh an intense period of time uh for something that should take a whole entire period at least um

023if we were able to house it in my home room and not have to worry about breaking things down. Um the risers for the forest are most time currently on stage and then have to get moved up and down off stage, put in the hallways, different events, different things happening in and out of school. So, they're constantly being moved. My ceilings aren't actually high enough to use them in the classroom all the time. So sometimes we get pulled, we bring them in, but the kids can't use them to their fullest ability because they'll hit their heads on the ceiling if they're on top. So we'll be doing a lot of shuffling with that as well within and out of hallways, rims, the stage. While we're making it work, um, we would implore you to seriously

024consider potentially adding maybe some more space for a music department in the referendum. Um I know the expense uh expenses of these things have gone up in time but this is definitely something we strongly wish for you to consider. Um and thank you for all your support and efforts and I've worked with almost all your children throughout the years and it's been a pleasure and thank you very much. Thank you. We're gonna move on to our student from Mountain Lace. >> Thank you, Mila. Thanks. >> Um after a very successful winter sport season with hockey winning their championship and the girls basketball winning their um sectional championship and making it to the semi-finals. The spring are definitely in full here. It's all going well and considered their second week of practices. Louis just won their

025first scrimmage on Tuesday against West and today the girls played their first match against West Baseball will have their first tomorrow against Mount Olives back on Saturday um against Park. Um, our banding choir kicks just came back from um their successful weekend at Disney World. A very successful um uh concert at on Saturday in front of um and it was um a very musical weekend. >> Thank you for sharing. So just for the public's knowledge, we're going to start with a close session now. So we'll ask you to leave and we will resume the meeting. So, uh, may I have a motion to enter into executive session to discuss issues that warrant confidentiality as permitted in the Oakland Public Meetings Act, chapter 231 of the laws of 1975. These matters may or may not be

026made public when the board reconvenes. They will be made public when the confidentiality of the subject is no longer warranted and the on student residency. May I have a motion to enter into executive session? >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> All those in favor say I. I. All those pull say no. Thank you. Me too. >> Thank you. >> So, we're back in close session and we have Greg Sjen from our architect part. >> Danny D. just give the things to you and they go unless she continues it all the summer so she'll be cry usually pretty bad or something cool to go back to the So in Charlotte, no one tries to steal it all the time. I was like, "Don't you touch it. >> She own my school ever did was

027make it so record was entirely and then after the concert they take their own bas and then after the concert I think give it a week and we'll stop right here. >> Music. >> I'll teach you the trick. >> What? We have three episodes. There's an else being >> Yeah, they're all >> Good evening everyone. I know it's late. Everyone's tired. >> So, we'll try to be thorough and expeditious all at once. My name is Greg Samjin with Perth Samjin Architects. with me is Dan Devanko, one of our associates, and uh we've been working on various plans and budgeting for the projects that the board has been contemplating. We are summarizing many of those things this evening, some of which have already been presented, some of which will be presented for the first time this

028evening. And ultimately the goal is to better understand which of these avenues the board wants to pursue to present a referendum to the community for some much needed improvements. By district background, the building is made up of multiple additions. The original being 1959 and then various additions that were added over time. The building is set up primarily with a prek to kindergarten wing. Uh down here, the elementary school migrates from this end of the building through the middle and then the middle school grades which are primarily seventh and eth are at the far end of the building. As a recap to 2024 referendum, these were the projects that were under um or were proposed as part of the referendum. Most of them were infrastructure related like the boiler, HVAC, etc. We had the art room

029renovation and in that proposal, there was a storage addition in the back of the building next to the J. The total referendum presented back then was just over $15 million. The state came back and told us that the district was eligible for $4.7 million in debt service aid, leaving just over $10 million as part of the local share. The approximately 14 million of that was considered eligible by the state. There were a few things that were not. And ultimately, just as a reminder, the way debt service aid from the state is calculated, they take what is considered an eligible project, you get 34 cents on the dollar or 34% and that's what equals debt service aid. The district ultimately borrows the entire money and then the state pays you on an annual basis, both principal

030and interest. Since then, there's been a lot of activity. the referendum failed and the board obviously went into superintendent search mode. Um Ken was hired and ultimately upon his arrival he also evaluated the building and its needs. He facilitated a variety of conversations both with the board. He had meetings with administrators, teachers, and even students which we were included in. and he's been holding these community connection meetings since the middle of last year where he invited anyone from the community to come and just to talk about their perception of the building's needs. Ultimately needs were identified and they were lumped into two categories, two buckets, two considerations, whatever you want to call it. Each were mutually exclusive. The first one is infrastructure which is reminiscent of what was discussed in 2024 and the second is

031educational which we'll review further this evening. We just wanted to point out that the district has a strategic plan. That plan was put in place and it has three basic goals and those goals in many cases align with some of the things that we are working on now. That includes improving the educational environment and letting students become better prepared for the next phase of their lives. So supporting student growth is number two. And then number three is the school and community values. Okay. Infrastructure projects, what we're calling consideration number one. By comparison, many of the infrastructure projects did carry through to the proposal that is being considered for this upcoming referendum. You can see them. and we lined them up so it was easy to follow. The couple of things that did get removed from

032consideration were the security vestibule and the new canopies and a few things were added including the burglar alarm, fire alarm and some uh lower gym what are the upper windows in the lower gym for replacement. The art room was also kept as a consideration under the other category and the storage addition was removed. The uh consideration which we will go over this evening is instead of an addition for storage, what kind of educational needs can we address because that was one of the things that we collectively heard as we were doing the planning and the presentations for the 2024 referendum. Just some imagery to put things in perspective. The roofs were in much need of attention and continue to leak. You can see the condition on the left and you can see the buckets on

033the right. Um because we couldn't wait and roofs did need to be addressed. Since the failed referendum and a few years before, approximately 53,000 square foot of roofs have already been replaced. That was at a cost of just over $2.4 million. Capital reserve or the district's savings account had to be used to pay for those. And just as to put things in perspective, because of the failed referendum, there was about $816,000 of money or aid that was lost because the roof is considered an eligible project. The other things that we're looking at are the heating, ventilation, and air conditioning systems. The imagery on the screen from left to right are rooftop units, which you can see are antiquated, rusted, the boilers in the middle, which are um very old and have outlived their useful life.

034And then the unit of ventilators which are typical uh individual pieces of equipment that fit in the classrooms that provide that fresh air and heating. The age of the equipment is about 25 to 30 years. The life expectancy of this equipment is 20 to 30 years. And the biggest challenge that is associated with this equipment, it's not if it's going to fail, it's when it's going to fail. And it's not if we can find parts, we can't find parts. And so as things start to get older and um outlive their useful life, equipment gets modernized like our phones. How many of you bought a new phone and all of a sudden the cord that charges it changes because it's a marketing ploy? And so equipment is no different. At some point they have to phase

035out the parts for equipment that is made 20, 30, 40 years ago because keeping it in stock just doesn't make financial sense. And so again, these are the kinds of systems that have a good run but need attention. Um so the financials associated with the infrastructure the uh list just as a reminder is on the left to this um proposal the with the additional pieces the total infrastructure budget is just over $16.5 million. We expect debt service aid to come in at just over $5.5 million which again is about 34% of eligible projects. So the anticipated local share is $10.9 million. Okay. Any questions that we should address before we go on to the second consideration which are the educational projects as it relates to infrastructure? And I want to commend the board and the

036administration. I know that we've been working with you now for several months and I think you're extremely thorough. You've vetted all these things very well. You've pushed us to really help you make the good decisions. So, I want to commend you publicly because, you know, I think that shows that you are taking the responsibility of dealing with these much neededed issues very seriously while trying to recognize and maximizing what the community can do uh financially and benefit from from the state while getting these things done. Any questions? I have a question. Um, so you showed those rooftop units. Let's say theoretically we knocked your and then they sort of written you down. Would you replace them peace meal or do you have to do the whole thing? >> No, you could replace them peace meal,

037but it's very expensive. You lose downtime in a classroom because a classroom has to have fresh air ventilation when it's occupied and you don't get the benefit of debt servicing. But the the individual pieces, unit ventilators, the beauty of those systems are that they are independent pieces. That's why they can be thermostatically controlled by themselves. And so when a teacher is in a space recognizing that you're going to have different exposures, north, southou, east, and west, but the direct answer to your question is yes, they can be replaced individually. Any other questions? I don't know if we want to open it to the public at this point or at the end or >> probably at the end. >> That's best. >> Okay. Okay. Moving on. Keep going. >> Consideration number two, which is exclusive of

038consideration number one. This is the educational piece. So the needs that were identified were classrooms that are being shared in some cases by two or three teachers, windowless spaces that over time have been converted from storage to educational. And the fact that project uh projected enrollment will continue to be an issue. the area is an attractive one to move into. There are older families that are moving out and so what can be done to address those? The other educational issues that were identified were some of the specialized instructional spaces. That includes a music space that again is now occupying a space that was originally designed as a windowless space and was used for gym storage and the adjacent space which is also excuse me the art room and then the next one which it the

039STEM lab which and the next one we have a picture of the smaller one. >> Oh, we don't picture smaller. Okay. So, >> so small didn't fit on. >> Yeah. So, there's another smaller music space next to the big music space. Um but then the art room which has been on since day one to modernize it. Right now we have um sinks and things that are not for the height for the that don't accommodate the taller students because it's a K through 7 8th grade class of space and doesn't address the smaller students. So giving it uh improving it from all aspects within the current shell and also potentially addressing the needs of what is a converted classroom into the ever evolving world of STEM. So just as a recap, the goals educationally they were

040identified was eliminating shared spaces, addressing the special education needs and getting people out of window open spaces, improving the specialized instructional spaces, music, art and STEM, including at the the original goal was trying to find some flexible educational multi-purpose room space, repurposing some professional spaces. So, for example, when we would pull out some of the child study team or the director of special services or speech out of these rooms, repurposing those into storage or into a conference room or something that doesn't allow or doesn't um isn't used for students and for staff. Okay, so we presented this before, but just as a recap, this is an aerial view of the existing site. It's probably somewhat familiar, although maybe not many of you have seen it from this vantage point. And the property has a lot

041of environmental considerations. The dashed uh lines represent setbacks and buffers, while the shaded areas represent an environmentally sensitive area. In this case, a wetland or something called a repairarian zone based on the ponds and the waterways that surround the property. So technically as you can see um over time these become more sensitive in nature and based on some of these limitations there's not a lot of opportunity to expand the footprint of the building. However one of the first exercises that we went through with the district was to look at what could we do if we really want to maximize the opportunity. what could we do to get the footprint expanded and accommodate some or all of our goals? So, what we were able to do is by expanding toward the front of the building over

042the parking lot, we were able to research have a what they call a pre um a pre-application meeting with Department of Environmental Protection. And what we were told is that this concept could work with what are called general permits and no special requirements. Specifically, constructing 10,000 square ft over the existing parking lot. Moving the parking lot formally to the front, even though people park there today, making that formal parking spaces. And even though we are in some of the transition area limits on both of those, because these areas were previously disturbed, we get to work through a variety of general permits down at the D. We do need to have sensitivity to a couple of pin oaks that exist near front, which are the homes for the Indiana bat and a host of other creatures

043that I'm sure. But the D was happy to see that we were paying attention to that and insisted that those not get disrupted. So at this point what we did in conjunction with the board was we said okay this is what we could do. It's something that we can accommodate fairly reasonably by expanding the footprint of the building. So what we did was we took the program that was shared before with the ideal educational needs and then we developed the plan and then we looked at two other options. So what we're going to present this evening is kind of a big middle small version which addresses the educational needs to different degrees and the budgets as you can appreciate are different as well and the goal would be for the board to give some thought

044to which one they're comfortable presenting to the community and then for us to submit that to the department of education with the infrastructure projects which I think we're generally already aligned with. Okay. So concept A is a full 10,000T addition with the relocation of the parking and the interior renovations. It would look something like this. The orange area represents the new construction. The new construction would have a science steam space in the front classrooms and small groupoup instruction wing facing the softball field. And the question came up, well, if we're building this and we're trying to get rid of windowless spaces, what is being proposed here is that the band and coral room and art room, which are in that center core, would have a higher roof with clear story windows. Those are really conducive

045to these kinds of spaces because you get the benefit of natural light, but you don't have the concern about direct sunlight impacting things like the storage of instruments that don't do well in direct sunlight. The um art room, storage, and kiln areas are in blue because that would be a renovated space. And then what you see along the existing building are a variety of renovations that we're taking the shared spaces and we're dividing people up so that all the small group instructional spaces have their own space. They are windowed and then the existing spaces that we were looking at turn into either storage, conference rooms or things that are not occupied all day. There is 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 small group instructional spaces. The main office moves from here down to

046the area that the business office is currently so that anyone that is coming to the building can access the main office more directly because while it was down there when the building was originally built over time it moved down here and that's been one of the constant concerns which is that no one really knows where the main entrance is. Okay, next slide. U, this concept budgets out at about $17.2 million. Any of the new construction would not be eligible for debt service aid, but we do believe we might be able to get some debt service aid from the interior renovations. And this would be exclusive of the last consideration, which would be $16 million for the infrastructure. And again, so the anticipated local share right now would be 17.2, too, but we think that will

047come down a little bit and that we might get some debt service aid for the project. I will talk about how debt service A is calculated and when we will get that in the next uh couple of slides. Concept B, which is now our medium version, is just over 7,000 square foot and an addition with interior renovations. In this case, there was a lot of conversation about going towards the softball field and what happens to the softball field. And my understanding is that there have conversations have started with the town about what that might look like. But on paper, these things are easy to explore. And so that's what we did. So here what we did was we did lose some of the program. So for example, the main office isn't moving, but we did

048get everyone out of windowless spaces. We were able to accommodate the classrooms up in the far right. They would go out towards the softball field. So the softball field would essentially be unusable in its current form and would just turn into open area for play. And then we converted the existing science room into a larger STEM flex space. We built a music room off the upper gym so that the common areas are still centrally located for everyone across the board to use. The art room would stay renovated as part of the original uh infrastructure proposal. And again, this meets the basic educational goals. We are saving quite a bit of money because we don't have to relocate the parking lot based on the addition that takes place and we are reducing the square footage that

049has to be constructed. This one comes in at approximately $10 million. The debt service aid is the same as the last one where we don't expect to get anything for the new construction. you don't have something called unhoused students currently and we do expect that we might get something for the interior renovation which will be determined uh when we make that submission to the state and again this would be exclusive of the $16 million infrastructure projects that we discussed earlier. And then the last of the concepts was the request to look at what is the minimum amount the superintendent could live with from an educational perspective to balance the big, medium and small considerations. So in this case, the proposal, and this could arguably go to the softball side, but in this case, we just

050chose to show it in this area and let the softball field stay on its own. What we essentially did was by removing people from some of the shared spaces within the building, we were able to incorporate small group of structural spaces there and regain classrooms in the building. We did get people out most of the people out of the windowless spaces where students are being taught on a daily basis and ultimately the music and art room spaces would stay where they are. And then we would do some renovations to accommodate the simplistic goal of removing any student that is in a windowless space as part of this smallest program. This one comes in at just over $5 million. Again, the debt service aid calculation would be the same. Nothing for new construction, maybe something for

051interior renovation. So, the next steps for the board educationally decide if the board wants to present to the community concept A education, concept B education, or concept C education. You're not deciding to build it because that is to the voters. All you're deciding is what do we submit to the state to get back the preliminary eligible cost letters and what do we present to the community to decide on? And that looks like one of these options. We made the presumption based on our conversations that the infrastructures are the baseline because that's if not a when. So if we took option one, it would be the 16.6 $.6 million infrastructure project with debt service aid plus a concept a of $17 million. You would be presenting one or two questions. That's still up to be discussed

052and doesn't have to be decided immediately, but you would be presenting to the community just over a $33 million referendum. Option two would be to take those same infrastructure projects with concept B and present to the community $26 million referendum or take option three which are the infrastructure projects and a $5 million concept for a total of just over $21 million in total referendum package. And again the decisions of one question or two questions those don't have to be decided right away. We have to submit to the state. We get preliminary eligible cost letters, final eligible cost letters and then those decisions have to be made with financial adviser and the bond council. Some frequently asked questions. The first is okay you showed us the total referendum but how does it impact me as a

053community member? And ultimately, the tax impact on an individual homeowner is going to be calculated upon receipt of the preliminary eligible cost letter from the state. That typically comes about 3 months after we submit and is going to be received before the voters go into the booth to decide. So, everyone will know the financial ramifications before they vote. Ultimately, the PEC is the formal response from the state that tells you exactly how much they're going to contribute to the project. And with that information in hand, the financial adviser and the bond council can more accurately calculate the average home and what that tax impact would be depending on which of those options the board decides to move forward with. We get this question a lot. Why does this cost so much? I could renovate my

054kitchen for far less. And the answers are that even the cost of our own home renovations have gone up significantly. But the primary driving force are prevailing wage which is the equivalent of union rates and other state mandates. These are things that are required in public projects. And so the cost to construct is just higher. Why do I have to vote? The voting is required for the board of education to borrow money long term. So ultimately the community has a chance to vote like they did in the last referendum because the improvements that are being proposed have a 20 25 30-year life expectancy. And so the the benefit is that by borrowing that money for that same period of time that the equipment and the improvements have a life expectancy. You're sharing that expense with

055future residents of the community where the capital reserve account that was used for the roof that was paid in one year. you didn't have the benefit of debt service aid and you didn't have the benefit of paying for something over its life expectancy. So at the end of the day that's why people have to vote and the answer which I just provided having to do with capital reserve. Why do we just keep using capital reserve? Capital reserve is a savings account. It can only be put away if there is extra money that is allocated to the capital reserve. It's limited. It can't always be funded to its maximum. Debt service aid is not available. And for the record, we all as New Jersey residents have contributed to other people's referendum, the debt service aid. So

056this would be nothing more than the township of getting their money back, the money you contributed over the years, getting it back to assist you with your projects. And as I mentioned, Capital Reserve is paid in one year or you have the benefit of paying over 20 years for some of these things. That concludes my presentation. I hope it wasn't too fast, but I'm happy to answer any questions or go back to any slide that you would like. the uh thank thank you uh the the slide on the options of the dollar am allowance when we ask the voters to vote that's the number that's shown is prior to the DSA but assuming you get the exact number 5.7 does then the question then become that number minus 5.7 or you show the full gross

057number before the DSA >> so what you'll see when the bond council sits with you is you would have to borrow the full 33 million or the full 26 million or the full 21 million. >> And the debt service aid is given to you on an annual basis. >> Got it? >> So they're not going State of New Jersey is not going to write you a check for $5 million. You're going to borrow the entire amount and then every year they pay you their share of what they committed to in the PEC and the FEC based on that amount. >> Got it. So the way that the questions are worded essentially assume there's one question. Do you approve 33 us to borrow 33.87 million? There's no other qualifier in the question that says, "Hey, by

058the way, it's not 33, it's going to be 27." >> So that's a little above my pay grade. >> Something we have to communicate to the the >> So it will be incorporated into the the language of the question >> into the questions as this. >> It'll it'll tell you that you're authorizing us to borrow the total column. However, we are we are getting the following debt service aid from the state. >> Yeah. >> Which reduces the local share. So, these are legal things that I don't know that I'm equipped to answer specifically, but your bond council will come to one of our meetings and he'll explain. He'll help you write the question. The question is written in such a way where, you know, normal lay people are not going to necessarily get it. >>

059Exactly. >> Um I know I don't. I walk into the voting booth and it's like what? Because they have to use all these legal ease to meet the statute. But the answer is you will be asking to borrow the entire amount and ultimately the state has committed to you their share on an annual basis which for the record >> covers principal and interest of the money you're borrowing and includes things like not only the hard costs that are eligible but the soft cost. So the permitting, the the professional fees, all the amounts that are eligible will get that debt service in. >> And then uh follow up on this, if the projects come in under that amount, the difference is then essentially refunded back into the community as in we will take not we but

060the community will pay less in their tax than what they expected. >> Correct. >> Depending on what the difference is. So if it come if it comes in at 30 million instead of 3387, it'll just be a spread across 20 years. But then >> correct early on, you'll be borrowing the money depending on whether it's a short-term note and you're going to wait for the interest rate to drop or if the interest rates are good, you might borrow all the money and you'll also gain some interest for the money that sits in the bank while you wait to finish the drawings and go out to bid. And typically what will happen in our experience is in the aggregate we have a consistent record of hitting the total referendum amount but markets change over the course

061of a couple years. So one project we budgeted might come in a little bit over what we budgeted but another project might come in a little bit under what we budgeted but in the aggregate we have an outstanding record of hitting the total. And if we don't use the entire amount of money then you don't have to use all the money that was borrowed and that gets refunded to the community members. >> Thank you. Um I have a question. Um I guess for any of the three options, but certainly for the media, I mean, do you have a a way to do the projects without disrupting the school here? >> Yeah. So, so >> I'm not going to say that none of this is going to disrupt the school and we have to be very

062conscious about it, but I'll give you an example of how in our experience we've been able to manage that. So, when the referendum is passed and we replaced unit ventilators in each of the classrooms, typically we will do that on second shift. And what that means is that we will work with the principal slash superintendent and we will say okay we need these two classrooms for a week. So we'll have to find a place to put those teachers and the students temporarily. They'll come in at night. They'll work for the week. They'll get the space ready to go back up and then we'll shift and move to the next two classrooms because many of these projects can't be done in a summer window. As for the additions, that will be something that will start during

063the school year, potentially in the summer, but it will absolutely go throughout the school year. So, we'll have to fence off areas. We'll have depending on which one is selected, we'll have to make sure that it's safe because contractors have to come and go. And typically, that will happen during normal business hours. But many times and we'll typically incorporate into our bid specifications if there's testing or if there's other things that we call blackout period where the contractor when he's bidding the project knows in his schedule he cannot work but you know putting up concrete block to build the new addition. It's not noisy. So there's not a real concern for total disruption. We would never do a roof over kids heads while they're occupying the space. the small group instructional spaces that we're dividing

064the classroom that can happen over a summer pretty quickly. So, those spaces will be good to go. So, we have a lot of tactics that go onto it, but you know, in all cander, there's going to be some disruption that happens because inevitably construction is not something that is easily controlled on a regular basis. There's always things that come up. And do you know like a I guess for for each one what's the time within a year or two years? >> So ultimately our goal that we've been discussing is the fall which means a successful referendum. We still have drawings to do. So in the summer of 2027 we might be able to get some projects out to bid this time next year just so the community sees some things happening. But the drawings require

065time to get developed because the state wants a submission to the department of education that is enough information for them to review and give you an approval but not that are complete sets of drawing because they don't want you spending money on the professionals if the referendum is unsuccessful. So we still have work to do after the successful referendum to get the drawings done. So we expect that some smaller projects we can see in the first summer and then starting the fall of 2027 we could start to see some of the other ones and we would sit down with the administration on the board. We develop a schedule. We might push some projects out so that not everything is happening at once because we want to manage the disruption so that it's not completely chaotic.

066And so we'll have to develop those schedules so that those things are taken into consideration. I guess to build on that realistically like if you were to say I just choose option two when would that actually be done >> the additions? >> Yeah. Like if you were to say option two. >> Yeah. I So I would say September of 28 is when you'd be occupying those new spaces >> would be. So we'd be basically done with all the stuff >> unless the board wanted to start occupying spaces earlier which most people don't like to because that's disruptive to the students. So, if I'm thinking through this, >> if fall of 26, >> it passes. We have a few projects in the summer of 27, we have our drawings developed and we're out to bid. That

067gives us a year to do the renovations and the new construction and be ready for plus or minus September 2020. >> So, the fall of 27, you're starting to do stuff, spring 28, summer of 28, hopefully then by September 28 that gets done. So, they'll start having some stuff in 27 28 but 28 29 that if this happens we would plan >> and we're going to and we're going to try to you know we're going to try to balance those things because you're going to have a lot of different contractor doing a lot of different things. >> Yeah, sure. Okay, that's helpful. >> When you look at renovation cost of existing spaces that will be moved. Is there any equation or algorithm that you've previously worked with and other schools that you see coming back

068from the state and those funding or is it just kind of an unknown? So, no one works in the state here, right? That was a question. So, it was a question I forget to ask. Um, technically, >> so, so generally speaking, the state promotes the idea of renovation. They want people to upgrade their buildings, which is why they take our budget and don't question it and give you 34 cents on the dollar for an eligible project. Classrooms are typically very eligible for renovation. And in this case, because you have shared spaces, we think that's a great argument that we can make. Each reviewer is different and sometimes has their own interpretation just like any code official. Conversely, new additions because they are so disincentivized to fund those. They are using numbers that are unreasonable and

069are in statute. And that's why even if you are eligible for an addition ultimately the value that they're willing to give you is so unreasonable that it's a nominal compared to a renovation. So the answer to your question is that there there are um there are guidelines that talk about what is eligible and we try to maximize those but it's the interpretation of the reviewer that really will determine whether for the interior renovations they're going to give us the money or not. Does that make sense? Any other questions from the board? I actually have a question for Mr. Patini. Um, just curious with the educational needs aspect of these different concepts, which one do you think better suits the long-term vision for the district? I have my personal thoughts, but I think it'd be important

070to hear what your thoughts are, too. >> Well, um, first of all, thank you very much. I really appreciate all the work and the boards for doing all the work behind the scenes. when I'm asked for an educational vision, the the footprint or the campus can't encompass all the things that I have in my mind. So, I appreciate maximizing the space, but it seems that the maximum space here has a cost to it beyond financials. It's moving the parking lot, changing some of the the flow of the traffic and things of that nature. uh it just seems like that there is something else that we're going to have to deal with in that capacity um maybe flow in the um in the building but it does it does achieve a lot frankly um and then

071I was asked for my minimal amount and I and I kind of view things in wants and needs but then warranted there are things that I think are very critical and they may be in the needs and warranted area for example windowless spaces there are some classrooms that or one classroom that the children for the majority of the day that do not have windows in it. That to me is a priority over another windowless space where kids or teachers may be in and out of that during the course of the day. So then I had that priority. So my minimum standard frankly speaking the smallest standard would be such basic m um me meeting the the most critical needs of of that like small portion of the needs and warranted area. So to me I

072think option two the the middle ground uh accomplishes a great deal. It gets people out of window spaces. It provides small room instruction and it also uh allocates space for those classrooms that are shared by two generate teachers. So it it kind of like cuts across all those sections >> and also musical >> and it's yes absolutely the arts are very important to me as you also it handles a lot of that like I said it it goes across a lot of those scenarios >> you're welcome. >> Shall we open it up to the community? >> Sure. There's only five questions. I >> actually was just wondering, can we see the slides again for option concept A and B? Like I was just I obviously we're going fast for time, but I was just curious

073like what we're losing between A and B. Like >> so concept A, >> we take the science room that is currently down in this end, which was a converted classroom, and we bring it up to here and combine it as a more integrated STEM lab. We gain back a general classroom down there. or what we discussed is that might get a 3D printer and a Lego so that the little kids have a starter STEM lab that they can use while the older middle school kids have something that's more in line with what they're going to see in high school robotics and things like that. And then this will also act based on the flexibility of the space for an opportunity for other meetings because the gyms are always full, this room is always full. And

074so we've tried to to figure out without building a space for meeting room, how do we accomplish that? The the music room gets taken back and I think that gets moved around to become either some meeting space, teachers areas or or something along those lines. We add some staff bathrooms and we create a band room and a coral room with higher ceiling and a footprint that meets the facility efficiency standards of the state of New Jersey. So the acoustics will be much better. Then on the other side of the wall, which is down the ramp into the seventh eighth grade classroom, these are uh content areas, general classrooms um for the seventh to 8th grade. So those get moved over to here as do some of the small group instructional spaces that we need. And

075then what you're seeing over here are people getting pulled out of those windowless spaces and the professional office, main office getting moved up to here. Good. >> Gotcha. >> Okay. So concept B. because at B the addition was from here out to here and so the parking lot is a pretty significant investment that is not needed now and so similarly we leave the art room alone we build the music room up here now this is just one room not a separate band and coral storage music storage um and so we put that kind of in the noisy area where the gym is so that they don't bother one another the content area and the existing space science room that is here gets expanded into a larger footprint. We have classrooms that are added and I

076think part of this plan, Dan, correct me if I'm wrong, is this starts to become a middle school wig. So, some of the sixth grade get pushed here and then the classrooms that we pick up. So, for example, I think this is room 34. That one gets divided because it's shared by three people. One comes up here, two get now divided and then we do something similar over there. And then we pick up, for example, we pick this space up for storage or whatever else we need. So, we're still picking up most of the things leaving the art room, the main office and the professional child study team, those kinds of things are not centralized, which was one of the goals in the bigger plan because they interact so much with Ken on a daily

077basis. We were trying to bring them together. And so, those are kind of the differences between the two big picture. Yes. >> Oh, actually >> for this plan, no, because that's part of the >> infra, >> but technically it's >> now my question about this is is there any additional clearance that has to happen with the environmental or is that that something that's just a matter of going through the process and it's not? >> Yeah. So, this is a repairarian zone, which is different than a wetland. And what we've confirmed is that we can build up to 6,000 square feet within the repairarian zone and not trigger any additional requirements. So, we feel we're pretty comfortable there. That's why this is limited to about 5,750 ft. The next number we have to worry about is

07810,000 square ft because that trigger triggers storm water management issues. So this one totals just under the total bringing us to 7250. We still arguably have a couple of thousand square feet which has dollars associated with it. So we're trying to balance the investment, still maintain the educational needs because the board was very clear. We really want to understand a big, medium, and small so we can make a conscious decision. Show the community that we've vetted all of these things and made the best balanced decision between meeting educational needs and asking for financial support. So this has a limitation which we've maximized. That has an additional limitation to not trigger storm water management. And it doesn't mean we couldn't do this at some future date, but we would just have to deal with storm water

079management triggers, which by the way, in February of this year became even more stringent with the D. So this kind of works out well for us to minimize that issue. >> Can you explain for the public what storm water management might mean trigger that? >> Yep. Um, storm water management is basically you have properties that have impervious and pvious surfaces, meaning things like a building, a parking lot don't let water absorb into the ground. And so you need to manage those so that adjacent properties that are downhill don't flood. and you need to maintain water that's on your property today stays on your property and before it leaves doesn't cause issues for other people in adjacent properties. So, normally you can manage those two different ways. An underground retention or detention basin. Each is a

080little bit different, but now the DP requires above ground. And so, um I'm sure if you've driven around newer developments, you'll see this large depressed area with a pipe coming into with a fence around it and you wonder what what's that? Yeah, it's empty. Drive by it during a heavy rain and you'll know exactly what it was intended to do because it fills up like a pool. And if it didn't have a place to collect and drain naturally, everyone downhill would be complaining. And we've had those circumstances where in prior years, those circumstances were not addressed and then, you know, neighbors are are concerned. So that's what storm water management is. It's a big Department of Environmental Protection issue. And these kinds of things where you're building over grass areas start to trigger some of

081those things where building over parking lots don't. So that means you could go further out to the side. >> We could up to 6,000 square feet before we have other approvals that we would need. So we could get another 300 400 ft here, but we tried to minimize the approval process because the Department of Environmental Protection has these this menu of approvals. They're called general permits or permit by rule, which means we've already approved this a million times over the last 40 years. So if you can meet these guidelines, you don't have to come to us for a special approval. You use this general permit. Just show us that you're meeting the general permit requirements. If we deviate from that, we can still apply, but now we're talking about a custom permit, which could take

082a long time. So we tried to minimize the interaction with the D to something that is manageable and still accomplish the goals that were set forth. >> Um, can I ask your question or turn? Um, is there a thought or plan in place of what we would do with our softball team if proposing concept B. >> Um there's discussions about what could possibly happen. We're in conversations about that. >> Nice to be able to question the baseball. >> I have a question about concept. Is there any concern? I I think it's hard to tell exactly. You're losing at least two to three entrances to the school as currently sit because there's a lot of them now because it's going to be a couple gyms. Anyway, I mean, is there any I don't know if there's

083any buyer issue or just even just like quality of life thought everyone's going through one game door, you know, preschoolers walk in. I I just want to any thought to like what we do. >> Yeah. So So the answer is there's absolutely egress code requirements and the egress code requirements primarily deal with you have a population and you need to from each space calculate how they get out from a space. And so by way of example, if you look at your gym here, your gym has multiple entrances because it can hold a greater occupant load and therefore you need more doors. And I won't bore you with code requirements, but historically a three-foot door can occess 150 people. So you can see that you have 150, 300, 600. So it's taken into consideration there. as

084it relates to these other ones. You can see this is a conceptual plan and postreferendum we would push and pull some of these things in more detailed conversations about okay we meet all the egress requirements the building is safe but let's talk about how the kids come in right and so if we needed to change the configuration here we have that flexibility and we might reintroduce a door here or we might say well we're going to bring the kids down to this point and we're going to have them come in here and we leave this one alone and we have this main entrance and we have this door So maybe we need to push this down a little bit and put a door. So we've calculated to make sure egress is met, but we don't

085want to go too far down the rabbit hole now because if this isn't selected, a b if the referendum is unsuccessful, then we're dealing with the nuances that we don't have to deal with. We have enough flexibility in the plan to push and pull and to talk about, okay, where do because we generally know the pre preschooler come in one entrance and the other's coming another entrance. So we would look to match that again. And sometimes there's a traffic pattern that changes as a result of a new day. And so that would be something we would talk about extensively as part of the detailed post referendum. >> Okay. Hearing no other questions. I mean, is there like a ballpark for any of those options, those three options of what the tax might be for the

086community? >> I am not the financial guru. >> I am merely an architect. >> Like, this will raise you this much, this will raise you this much, this much. >> And so, the financial advisor sent us some information that said, look, when we get the preliminary eligible cost letters, we can do a calculation. And I think what the board wants to do and and many boards do this is they don't want to share a number that isn't accurate because a if it's too low people get excited and then when the number come in it gets higher and they're like you know you did this intentionally and conversely if it's too high it turns people off and now all of a sudden the numbers lower and no one needed to panic. So I think the goal

087here is the board needs to look at this and say what are we comfortable presenting to the community and then once they get that preliminary eligible cost letter it'll be publicly have to be accepted and the financial adviser can be presenting. Okay, here's the average home in the township. Here's what these pieces will impact it and then you'll know that before you go into the voting. >> But they're only is only going to pick one thing to submit, right? >> Correct. We're not going to submit three proposal. I mean, I suppose we could submit three, but I don't think that is something that is typically done. I think I think the board has done a lot of vetting over the last several months and they are at the point I don't want to speak for

088them but that these are the options we've been asked to prepare and they have to decide as representatives of the community what do we think meets the educational need because we don't want to be shortsighted but we also want to present something that will pass so that we can move this along because obviously they heard very clearly when the last one failed Why do we need a storage room? We need educational space. >> Um, I just don't remember where I'm pulling this from because obviously you're saying we don't know the number yet, but I thought there was something where it was like for the average house for every 5 million a referendum it was 150 increase in taxes. >> Yeah. So, that was presented in our first presentation >> just to give an order of

089magnitude from the financial adviser. But now that these things have changed and we don't know the debt service aid on some of the interior renovations, this financial advisor suggested, look, that was a roundabout number just to say, you know, here's a lump number. It could go either way. >> And based on these kind of evolutions, they said, look, wait for the PEC's and then we can really do a much more accurate job of calculating. So, my my recollection was not to put everyone on the spot, but I'd like to put you on the spot because we have a lot to do. We were going to just after having presented the infrastructures a couple of meetings ago, see if anyone had any concerns about it, get us kind of the final sign off. We've already opened

090up the longrange facility plan. We've been editing that. Thank you, Mr. Murray, for getting us access to that. And we'd like to kind of continue populating those applications and then you are going to digest and have a dialogue about the educational options and at the next meeting provide us guidance so that we can get to the fall for the community. That was my recollection. Is that accurate? >> So, do you need additional feedback from us in >> I would can you go to the infrastructure list? Yes. I would love to say after the various conversations of pulling and pushing the stuff from the infrastructure list, I think this meets what the intent of the board was. So if it is possible to get a thumbs up that yes, we authorize this, John can start putting

091resolutions together for the next meeting so that we can submit them with the applications because we've already started the process because he knew you know most of these if not all were no questions but you know there were a couple of questions that still resonated that I think were answered but I I don't know. So if we can get a an approval for these that would be ideal. I recognize >> meeting but if you remember the board already authorized him to submit the application. So that part resolution already done but then he came back and tweaked it a little bit. So I think he just needs a thumbs up that come with the change >> passing a resolution. >> He already has the resolution to submit. >> Yeah. I just all I need is the

092board to say the infrastructure projects that are on this list total 16 million with an expected 5.6 million of debt service aid are the ones that we want to completely put in the application and present to the community and the educational project you're going to digest. >> Yeah. >> And pick one for the next meeting which is the 20. >> I say you need that thumbs up right now. >> That would be the goal. That's what we talked about. You you already gave us the thumbs up conceptually for the project, but there were there were one or two questions like the lower gym window. >> If I could just he had a couple of questions. >> Yeah. >> And that's why he redid the side by side. >> Yeah. >> And provided clarity there. >>

093Um and that's where we're at right now. This is a confirmation post with that. >> Okay. I I'm I'm good with it. I just I didn't know if we need to make a resolution or something. That's how we approve >> it. off because you genius. >> Yeah, that's curious. I just want to know can I can I populate the application that we're authorized to start with these project so that when John and Ken get the and the board president gets the gets the applications signed. No one's going to be surprised that it's going to be $16.6 million with this list of projects >> because I think before we had the resolution to submit it and then somebody had questions about the crosswalk anywhere behind it. >> Correct. So those answering your questions, >> we we

094don't need to pass resolution. We just need to confirm that that >> satisfied with the cost that he did. >> Are we good with this? >> And then next week it's just for the education. >> Okay. >> Because I think there were some questions about the crosswalk. I think he's got approved technically. >> You already approved this. >> Yeah. You guys just wanted to digest some numbers. >> I got it. I got it. >> We pulled some numbers out that we had talked about. >> Yeah, we went line by line. >> Okay. >> Any other questions for me? Any questions for Dan? When do you need? >> Nothing. So basically it's consensus that he's >> for the for the educational piece what you need from us >> both discuss >> you want me to leave

095this up >> discussions That's enough to keep the screen sucks. Oh, we're discussing >> I guess have a general thought discussion about >> membership membership. about each of those >> music. I think C is this. So C is often thin. >> To me, I think it's I think it's foolish. I think if we're gonna we might as well ask for nothing. Honestly, we might as well not go with a question. If we're going to go, >> it still leaves windowless. >> Classroom. >> It's a It doesn't solve that. It's a sort of a consensus that >> is great. I know he gave you because Chris by way of you also concurred with that. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> He said you know that was >> so I'll start here on the line to Mr. anything

096big can get us to where we need data. That would be where we need >> I would say that's the most palatable when you consider the jump in costs from previous iteration where we didn't have this level of addition and this meets all of the criteria and think more financially responsible. Yeah, I I'm I'm you guys the concept being the middle ground. I think you know having a parking lot and obviously usually expensive and I think you get you need >> I'm pretty comfortable figuring that out. >> The other thing just to remind everybody is You know, it's not blue here. Our nurs's room is covered under the infrastructure. So, while it's not shaded that way here, it is also kind of scoped. I might be over oversimplifying, but I look at the $7 million

097difference as a separated band court room and moving some of the administrative offices and getting some administrative offices at the toilet and then parking lot that you got basically $7 million. >> Um, yeah, maybe there were there more. Are there How many more classrooms does A have versus B or is it pretty close? Um, >> can you show any? >> Yeah, you can show anyone. >> Some of the sizes are different though, too. >> So, it's pretty close >> in the concept. What is not crystal clear because we wanted to simplify the presentation. >> Yeah. >> When you gain back spaces here, as a result, you're picking up a general classroom that's not really shown as a new general classroom. So, we can do that exercise for you to give you a real count. Um,

098but I I I would be misleading you if I told you the exact numbers I just >> But you probably count them on a half like a different. >> Yeah. Yeah. If you're not picking up a dozen more classroom, right? The step space here which moves there, you're picking up a general class. >> It's two two to four maybe more. So, two to four classrooms of some kind of size, administrative offices, abandoned courtroom that are separated in a parking lot that's 7 million. Like to me it's double the cost of what that almost double the cost of what the other right and so to me it's just like you're not getting the bank for that to me it just on paper they have simultaneous >> and I think about the cost beyond the recigure something

099as far as the boilers are concerned because you need access to take away the proper And then I get that space more. >> Yeah. >> I agree. >> We'll figure something out. >> Yeah. >> John just wants me to address that, you know, we do create a separate band in coral room which is pretty significant square footage. Yeah. and B. >> So, we create a music room. >> Yeah. >> Vand or coral. >> But what do you do if they're both running simultaneously? I mean, >> when these two are running simult like I don't really consider that much of a classroom. So, I don't know if Coral's in there. Van's in there. Coral is in the bigger room and Van switches between the cafeteria where the motor gym back and forth and they're moving things

100around and they they do have class at the same time. >> Okay. So look, I mean by way of example in this plan, this space comes back to the district for something. >> We talked about storage because there is a storage. >> Well, if if this if this music space right here is going to be instrumental music and music is h coral music and instrumental music is happening basically all day long every day. There's this this space is coral music. This little tiny space is the instrumental music space. That's one of the reasons why they could never meet as a whole band. They always have to go in here. This would be instrumental music. This would remain coral coral music or maybe one of these perform. But >> this can't be booked at all. >>

101Yeah. >> I know there's there going to be devils in the details of how you guys are going to have to coordinate the programming, but it feels like to me and then I'll I'll build on on Grace's point. I feel like this gets a lot of the core educational needs here at like a very like palatable cost. >> I will just throw this out there because you're not decided this evening. You have till next week to do it. But I mean this obviously is used for playground purposes, but maybe not as much as people think. I don't know. But we still have without triggering storm water management a little bit of square footage up here. If you wanted to add a coil room at 1,200 ft, you could still do that and still be significantly

102below the $17 million mark. >> Yeah. And what is the average cost per square foot? >> You're probably Yeah, exactly. So, you probably spend a million dollars, >> another million and a half for something to build a room. >> So, do we need a concept? >> It could be B square. >> Yeah. That's an interesting idea. >> There's a there's a modular lever that if you say it's another million a half, you could get a core room extended, but you're going to lose the playground area, which arguably I don't know how much that money is used. >> That's the project fit area. >> Well, that's the project fit area. >> So, it's not really like a general play area. So, I don't I don't know how often it's used or if it's used as part

103of the curriculum. >> It's it's used pretty often. then then I would like not want to disturb it. >> I mean what we're doing here now is we're really kind of like closing in on this space. >> Yeah. >> Which is super important for kids. Like they need they need that space. Like it's >> you can add more over here. >> My job is not to create turmoil but to help you resolve your issues. >> We could take project fit because the software field's going away and you could put project fit down here. But you can relocate a programming thing where you now have like two >> project. Yeah, you'll be fine. >> Yeah. Okay. >> But you also said we have more square footage we can utilize. >> I think this is like 5,750.

104So you hit the 250 ft here before we get to the 6,000. >> You're going to use it up if you something with coral over here. >> The D is in Bats are going to chase the >> Indiana bats. You're Indiana bats. >> Downside if you trigger that is you have very classes take place. So you're load >> they had what? >> You're just talking about how much I learned over the decades from Indian and I learned about fairy shrimp in Denville where the environment consultant walked through and there tunnels of water that you would think twice as shrimp. I digress. >> But this gets you innovation. >> I think the concept B is fantastic. Yeah, I think that we spent a lot of time in our committees looking at different and tossing things around

105and I think it we get the responsibility for the fiscal side and you know really trying to do the most amount of meeting the educational needs for the best deal. quite frankly. I mean, >> it feels right to me. So, like I think it would be great to have another courtroom. >> I don't know if we want to have Greg look at that, but I think that this is a really >> Even without it, I would >> I think I think this is looking really good. >> Look, for me, well, if you're going to submit it to the state, you'd want it to go there. >> Yeah. >> I mean, look, >> we can't just add it. >> You can't just add to that. Well, because you want to make sure the money is allocated.

106Yeah. >> As part of the application for the referendum vote. >> How much space do you need in addition to that? >> If that was a court, >> what do you mean >> square footage wise? >> It's about 1,200 ft. If you wanted, 1200 now, >> correct? >> I believe so. So, it's your >> similar size. >> Similar music. You just mirror that. >> So, the place where the sand is, you just move that play space over there. >> Correct. >> Certified playground mulch. would you have to do something? You have to ask to, but I would >> I don't know. I don't know what age uses that. >> So, I would certainly consider as part of this if the younger kids are using the playground fit area that you have to throw a fence

107around here and I'll check with our engineer. I think that'll be okay to do. They can come out these classrooms to use it and then go back. Obviously, again, I don't know what age is using it, but >> yeah. Isn't it for the older kids? Not to say that that's what we needed, but is it working? >> It was originally it was a it was a a grant that was done and I think it was through Marstown Memorial Hospital and the Ed Foundation pays for the installation. So, it didn't cost anything. >> Um, and it was almost like the old park courses where you go around you do different circuits. >> So, and it was part supposed to be part of the curriculum. >> The kids don't necessarily use it the way it is, but

108they play >> they hang on. It's how much space for them to play. >> They're hanging out there. The young kids hang out there and they're fooling around on all the equipment. >> The older kids, they don't really use it as workouts. They they want to play sports. >> Or if the older kids are using it, they're just using it to congregate. >> They're lawyering. They're lawyering. the interest of it being almost 10:00, we can vet some of this over the next few days and next week >> in committees and >> we can do I mean it won't take us anything to throw a box on there just to show what it would look like update the budget and get that to John by week's end just so you guys have a few days to

109>> jump to but it feels like we're going with B like it feels like that's the temperature >> B variation of B variation of B Maybe it's B1 or B2. >> See, I need to think about the problem. >> B. >> Yes, I I agree. I want to think about that a little bit more, but I'm kind of like not A. Definitely not C. >> Look at B1 versus B2. >> So, what do you need from Greg? And then would you be able to make to bring it down to next Wednesday? >> I mean, it's >> B2 >> because I need that. >> I mean, you need we were to do I don't really need another box. I can picture the box. Yeah, >> that would be kind of like what's the number change? >>

110You can do that. >> And he might have it sounds like it's 1200 ft at 600 a little bit more because the hallway will get extended just to get us in there. >> But but look, it we've come very far. >> Yeah. >> Again, commend you for really trying to build all these things at this late stage to put a box on there and give you an updated budget. Happy to do it. >> That was Greg's nice way of saying you're driving me crazy. how to bring how to bring closure strong. >> So yeah, we'll get that we'll get you updated budget and then you'll have BB B2 to look at. It sounds like the fact that it sounds like you're all honing in on B helps us tremendously because we'll even get a little

111bit of a jump start I think before the formal approval comes just to buy us some time with the state because the state's always backlogged. So we want to meet the deadlines to get to them. But this was very very helpful and I appreciate it and we'll continue to talk with Ken and John on just the paperwork and formalities that we're going to need and then no one board president superintendent VA you guys aren't going anywhere in the next month. >> I don't know. >> Well, I we're going to need your signature at some point. >> A lot of them >> for the application. So if someone is planning on going away document >> you're not allowed to. >> Here's the insanity. >> You have to seal away. >> Here's the insanity. The state requires

112a wet signature but then doesn't accept the original applications from us anymore. We have to scan them and send them to them. >> No joke. Not a joke. >> I love it. So, >> trust me, I know. >> We used to deliver them the originals down there. We don't want them in our >> So, recap. So he's going to come back with >> B2 B2 >> B2 and then by the Wednesday because I think if you go past that you're going to start to lose your window of >> Yeah. next week applications >> we need B or B2 >> submit to the state credit >> To be or not to be. >> Okay. >> Great. So thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> I will say publicly that has been working more than probably

113would like It's been a pleasure. We appreciate it. >> I and I appreciate the the commentary and um again very serious. I think you guys take this very seriously and I think every board should do this because you want to make sure that you're representing the community. So we were happy to be involved and we look forward to getting this passed and making the approvals. Okay. >> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Now we're on to John Murray's presentation. John presentation now. >> No, that's a final expense. >> Next, >> we're going to the 25th. We'll bring the budget to the board and then get it approved. >> To jump back in, >> we're at number six. >> May I have a motion to approve your business items one through three? >> One

114through second. >> Wait, four. >> There's four. >> There was the one's from Friday. Hi everybody. >> All right. So we have a motion in a second on >> Yeah, it's one through four just for clarification. >> Sorry. >> Second. Any comments, discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I. >> All those opposed say no. Any abstensions? >> Okay. >> Administrative reports. Mr. Bar, >> I will give you I'll try to be brief. This was supposed to be the last meeting report, but I'll do Kevin. Uh stage curtains were all updated. The fire resistant materials on there. They're all good to go. Snowstorms were taken care of fantastically by the township and our custodians. Uh the roof system is continuing to fail, but in the budget we have included uh the replacement that you

115saw from the presentation. Um we received our state aid on around March 12th. We received about almost $58,000 in addition to the current year, which is a good thing. It's uh it's actually better than uh losing any money. We'll present the budget on the 25th meeting. It's due in the county office or before March 27th. Um and and this is kind of on a personal note. I just want to let the board know that New Jersey goes my state association. Each year they have a distinct service award that they give out. to give out, but they uh you have to be nominated by your county colleagues and as well as voted on by the state. I was selected as one of the distinguished service winners. >> With that, uh another $1,000 scholarship that I can

116award to somebody of my choice. Can't beat my kids, but uh I've already contacted Mountain Lakes and uh they're going to work through the guidance department to select a senior from Boon Township worthy of it. And actually, it was too late last year. I had a $1,000 one from last year. So, we're going to actually award two $1,000. >> And we'll be awarding it down to our congress to recognize you with the whole state association. So, very proud to accept that. >> Okay, Mr. >> Okay. uh at this time each year the city could provide an update on progress and uh things towards the achievement of the district goals and objectives. I go through this really fast district one. You can all read that one of the main things that I did to strengthen the

117community con uh community engagement was through my community connections. These are all the dates that I did since uh September. Um the other areas that I engaged the community with the use of social media, digital backpack, so on and so forth. Again, uh going back down to the end of the round table discussion that I continued from last year once a month and the referendum tabs on the school website and I sent out surveys for the calendar effort. Goal number two, use best practices to firm an inclusion educational environment that utilize data so on and so forth. And here are some of the areas that that happen throughout the course of the year. Restructuring teacher schedules to incorporate inclusive teaching and models. Created in-class groupings based on assessment data. Uh as you know as I

118mentioned in uh previous board meetings all K2 special education and basic skills teachers are now trained in Orgillium. For the past year, maybe a year a little over a year, >> we're piloting a uh an AI platform called Doo differentiate lessons and also develop reports. Implemented the multi-tiered systemal supports and responsive intervention, incorporated mindset, showing respect, owning actions, acting safely, reaching for excellence, and designed and provided lessons for all grades. We implemented the falcon flight school. It's a monthly whole school assembly which accentuates the score the score tenants and we also have extended home rooms for teachers to implement and apply those lessons and the score standards. This year we changed the schedule to include the uh additional math course of eight and we'll continue to do that and separate geometry and one which uh

119teachers and parents were very pleased with. And the third goal is to continue to develop partnership with Mountain Lakes. As you all know, we've coordinated our calendars to improve professional improve professional development. Dr. Sevil and I are in constant communication and collaboration. We've had their professionals here. we found over there and our joint professional development sessions happened over the course of the year. Two half days, one was just the late opening the other day. We got the next teachers all came here and one from there. And the last and final one was identifying instructional learning elements to max achievement. Again, training all our K2 teachers and special teachers in Oregon utilizing the AI platform. And we've examined the curriculum and activities within the curriculum so that we make sure that they for example the generation

120uh the next generation science standard were implemented in the activities used in the classroom. And that concludes my report. Any questions? >> Thank you. You're next for commendations. The Falcons of the month for March. Congratulations to the following students for Saurin High for their strong character and academic effort. In fifth grade, Nolan Bardac. Sixth grade, Hannah Egan. Seventh grade, Miriam Bolaf. In eighth grade, Michael Manell. Flying high in fourth grade for February. This is a certificate award for each run to recognize students who display a variety of outstanding character and/or achievements within the classroom. Congratulations to Angelo Dioro, Josephine Colet, Mia Saviano, Thomas Sangari, Alexandra Chinowski, and Maguire Lynch. Congratulations to our RVS Falcons that were source for the month of February, showing respect, owning actions, and acting safely, and reaching for excellence. Jordan Gibbons,

121Colette Bard, Swerve, Togan, Flissac, Joey Delveio, Colton Harris, Oliver Wills, Angelina Hume, and Shanti Star, Ellie Balden, Lucas Nves, Nirvana Ja, Joey Ponty, Abby, James Olsen, Carl W, Harrison Newbie, and Braden Harris. And spotlight on student work for February. This is for exemplary work by students in preschool to third grade. These are displayed in the lobby on a monthly basis. In prek, Rean Reynolds and Claude Freeman. In kindergarten, we have Teddy Hansen. You also meet Cameron Santz, Jack Brienne, Zachary Swan, uh, Rocco Rejano, Lucen Ron, and Rowan Benorton. In first grade, Bastian Felizac, Jane Malaria, and second grade, John Takis, Graham Dowling, Addison Vantis, and Alana Shraer. And third grade, Kade Haggard and Trey Yoba. Thank you to the Booten Township CPAG and volunteers for hosting our zen night at RBS. The families enjoyed mindfulness

122activities, Zumba, yoga, and engaging workshops designed for both parents and children. And we would like to extend our sincere thank you to all the guest readers who visit our platform during Read Across America. Your participation helps bring stories to light and make the celebration even more meaningful for our students. We appreciate your support and our school community. Thank you and great recommendations. >> Thank you. So, we're on to open session number one. The first public comment period will be limited to agenda items only. The second public comment period will be open to any topics. Please be mindful that public comment periods are available to enable the public to give comments and feedback to the board. Personal matters and day-to-day operations are not appropriate subjects for board meetings. These can always be most effectively resolved with

123the appropriate staff members or administrators according to the chain of command conduct. Questions may be directed to the appropriate school personnel or board through email. Please state your name and address for the record. All comments are limited to five minutes. Any questions? Okay. So, le on reports Mount Lakes. Um Chris is not here. New Jersey school board. >> Um nothing to report except that I I think it's helpful to note that NGSBA does track results across the state. So, everyone wants to see your communities, other projects. >> Um I just want to piggy back off of New Jersey school boards. I attended about a week and a half ago an all day leadership trainings conference for school board presidents and vice presidents and have created a um board norms guide. So like different norms that

124different presidents throughout the state utilize in terms of being new and setting standards for the for the board both that I've learned and that you know we can work on together. So I will have our field rep going over some of those next week like late just so you all know. >> Okay. Mars County School Board, I have two updates. Uh looking forward the next meeting is May 6. It is at West Morris Venom High School. This is the annual celebrating successes and honoring service. Uh there will be uh this will self this will highlight uh significant achievements and accomplishments from throughout the county. So that's in May. And then looking back one March 5th there was the unsung heroes award. Caitlyn Holding from our school was awarded. Uh one of the many things that

125was said about her is that she has smile and a can do attitude. And I know both Barry and Laura were there. Um, I hope you get a chance to make it, but just in case you guys wanted to see more wet ones. >> Yeah, >> it was different this year. It was like, you know, pastor lunch. >> You're done in an important house. >> Really? They did that on purpose. Anyway, that's nice. Educational services commission in Morris County. >> They met a week ago. The representative assembly met first and they annually approved the budget of the services commission which they did. Then the board of directors immediately after routine visits. >> Perfect. Boot catch of CPAC. Do you want me to talk about that? >> Yes. >> Okay. So we had a zen night

126about two weeks ago. It was extremely well attended and well received. There's I would say 25 adults, 30-ish kids. So, I I think that a lot of staff came up to us and approached us about doing it again. So, um it was a really nice evening. Monday, May March 23rd, 700 p.m., we're doing our final wrap-up for parents, community members, staff, whomever on ADHD techniques. So, parenting children with ADHD and or adults with ADHD, not parenting hopefully, but >> and then we're on to that. That's Monday the 23rd. Believe that's a Monday, right? >> 7 PM here in the library. So, it's open the township lakes. Any community members? >> So, we'll go on to the Township Ed Foundation. >> Uh next meeting and it's next I'm getting rescheduled to 9:00 a.m. uh next Thursday.

127There's a slight play thing going on. Uh Lauren might be doing the group. I don't know. >> Uh there there's the annual ball about it at the at the >> So the play is this Friday at 7:00 p.m. this Saturday at 7 p.m. and this Sunday at 2 p.m. And there are still tickets available and there is a huge need for volunteers to help sell things and coordinate things. So that's it. Um 27th >> April. April. >> Yes. April April 27. Yes. So, the Homewood School Association, I'll keep this brief. So, we're working on um Chipotle like a day before spring break, doing a lunch. Piggy back. I kind of lost my train of thought tonight. What else do you have going on? >> Uh some teacher appreciation things happening. >> Yeah, we have a

128teacher appreciation happening before spring break. >> Craft. >> We have craft night. We have a craft night coming up March 26th and then we have a we have approved to do a Boot Township RDBS cookbook. So we're working on a vendor to be able to help us because there hasn't been one in about 30 years and we saw on social media that people are very interested in having a community school cookbook >> and we have a pretzel fundraiser and a cookie fundraiser coming up in the next two weeks. And that's pretty much the update that I can think of. Some new spirit wear coming out, but that's it. Township of Blue I hear. Did anyone else give an update about the town? Nope. Okay. Township green team. I I don't have an update there either.

129>> So, we'll move on to facilities. Um, may I have a motion to approve facilities? that I just let the >> sure board know that obviously we saw Greg's presentation this evening, but if anyone wants to drill down into some of the uh needs that we had recently. >> Thank you. >> All right. May I have a motion to approve facilities motions one through three? >> Second. >> Are there any questions, comments, or discussion? If not, the question is on the adoption of the facilities motions one through three. >> Great. This is all just this is all just for the >> this is all >> you know I notic >> okay you want me to roll call Okay. >> All right. So, this is a roll call. >> That's right. >> Sparta. >> Yes. >>

130Mr. Brandon? >> Yes. >> Mr. Chen? >> Yes. >> Mr. Hinger? >> Yes. >> Mr. McBride? >> Yes. >> Mr. Mill? >> Yes. Motion carries. >> All right. Next. And may I have a motion to approve finance motions 1 through six? >> Uh, sure. I mean, the committee memorized before, but we >> Oh, I'm sorry. Report first. >> Yeah, we didn't. These are all pretty routine visits, John, unless there's anything that you want to to highlight in here beyond that. We we've spoke about the preliminary budget that we'll have at the uh John will present the final final budget that will be basically on next uh week, but that's >> Yeah, we looked at we looked at a draft presentation. So, we'll tweak that a little bit. It'll be ready for presentation after next meeting.

131>> Okay. Thank you. So, may I have a motion to approve finance motions one through six? Is there second? Any questions, comments or discussion? If not, the question goes on the adoption of finance versions 1 through six. Is this the roll call? >> Mr. Bora, >> yes. >> Mr. Frank, >> yes. >> Mr. Chan, >> yes. >> Mr. Hinger, >> yes. Broad. >> Yes. >> All right. Thank you. We're on personnel. Personnel met last week, I believe. So, we are approving a leave replacement, a pair of professional position, FMLA leave, and softball coach this evening. And those were all items for discussion this past week. Any questions? All right. May I have a motion to approve personnel motions one through four? >> Is there a second? Second. >> Any question, comments, or discussion? If not,

132the adoption is on personnel motions one through four. This is also >> Mr. Ba. >> Yes. >> Mr. Brandon, >> yes. >> Mr. Chen, >> yes. >> Mr. Her, >> yes. >> Mr. McBride, >> yes. >> Mr. Mills, >> yes. To policy or committee report here. Does anyone have any updates on the policies? Is there any input? >> No. Do you guys want a program report? I know Chris isn't here but no most of the updates were program. >> Hey governance >> we didn't do policy. >> You didn't do policy. Well, no. We have a motion to approve. There's no vote down there, but you need a motion to second. >> Oh, I'm sorry. We have a motion for policy motion number one. I'll move >> and second. >> Is the roll call on? All

133those in favor say I. >> I. >> All those say no. Any abstensions, questions, comments, or discussion? >> Does anybody have any questions about the policy this week? Nothing's changed. Here we go. Okay, >> good. >> Will we at some point this year once we all finish our very important work? >> Well, we're all governing behind the scenes. Open session number two. The second public comment period will be open to any topic. Please be mindful that public comment periods are available to enable the public to give comments and feedback to the board. Personal matters and day-to-day operations are not appropriate subjects for board meetings. These can always be most effectively resolved with the appropriate staff members or administrators according to the chain of command concept. Questions may be directed to the appropriate school personnel or

134board through email. Please state your name and address for the record and all comments are limited to five minutes. Any questions on open session number two? Okay, go ahead. >> Uh, the policies you voted on, uh, are they viewable to the public? And if so, where >> I would say yes under the board tab >> on the website, >> then you just go down. >> Just curious. Once they have approved now, then Modesta has to upload that. Uh, one of them artificial intelligence is new, but all the other ones they just had like a change in order too. >> I was curious about the artificial intelligence. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, that will be uploaded. Now approved that. >> Thank you. No problem. >> Any old business to come before the board? I'll just have a

135quick question. Sure. >> Um, can you just remind me for our trade next week referendum and ethics or just referendum? He's actually switched it more to the communication committees and referendum is going to be pushed out a little bit. >> Okay. >> Blending communication and committee effectively managing committees. >> Y what was the reasoning for pushing out? Just curious. We've been a week longer kind of it would could wait a little bit longer given all the intensity of meetings that we're having at this juncture. >> He'll help us strategize with PR and marketing in the near future. >> So when is um our start time? >> 6 p.m. Okay. >> Yeah. Hour and training. >> Who's our contact? >> Panero. >> Yeah, that's our Charlie. >> I spent a whole day with him ago. >>

136Yeah, that's our new Charlie. I've personally met with him three times. >> Good. >> I'm sorry. >> Did on the 25th >> March special meeting around the business budget training first. you have a question. All >> business. Um the policies you can also find on the under the agenda tab on the board of education tab agendas for tonight and then there's the agenda plus the policies that were were there just for FYI to help out. >> Okay. >> New business. >> I have one piece of new business. Uh we haven't had a newsletter go out in a while and I think based on Mr. for team's report. We should extrapolate some of the dates of the next round tables with you as well as updates on the board goals and disseminate that to Luke Township

137newsletter as well as our own newsletter. How do you guys feel about that? >> Yes. >> And referendum updates. >> Do we do a special? >> Yeah. Well, that's another question for you. >> Special newsletter for newsletter for the web. >> I mean, I can make it as such where there's a referendum section. >> Well, I mean, because we have a reference section on the website as well, right? >> But this would go out to not just RBS. >> RBS. >> So, I think it's important to disseminate some of the feedback we received tonight where we're, you know, where we are in terms of designs, etc., and get this to the totality as much as we can to the community. >> Yeah. And this is setting up a new communication dates both through April. Sorry

138>> through the school or the newsletter in the town. >> Okay. So that would be a redundancy, but I still think it would be you'd be hitting other people. >> Yeah. Just those days. Okay. Do we have an official social media committee to sound a referendum? >> Can somebody from the ad hoc committee who's a community member potentially post on social media for us >> and then that way once we get our final someone were here from the >> I'll email you directly to AI. >> Okay. Any other new business? So, we do have another closed session and this is a student matter. Correct. >> Correct. >> May I have a motion to enter into executive discuss session to discuss issues that warrant confidentiality is permitted in the opening act chapter 231 of the laws

139of 1975. These matters may or may not be public when the board reconvenes. They will be made public for confidential locality of the subject of the order to student matters. May I have a motion? >> Second. >> Thank you. No more board action while we do. >> Just Okay, we've just come back from closed session. No other board action to be taken. May I have a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. Meeting adjourned at 10:36.