001thank you so much for being here what I know is a beautiful evening and there are tons of activities going on in our community I want to let you know that the oriole advocates are here to lend a voice to the students teachers and staff of the Inland Community School Corporation we're truly a grassroots organization that does advocacy at every turn for working with our town council members to our school district leaders to our teachers to our state representatives so thank you for being part of our event this evening one of the things that I want to start with is the big things are the teachers and the educators in the crowd so what I'd like you to do if you work in the field of education is raise your hand high and proud [Applause]
002time for you to follow that up this evening with a tweet to a Facebook post to an Instagram to an about one of your favorite teachers let's rally our entire community to thank those people who serve our community and serve our children because without them we would not have a productive Society thank you in teachers I'd also like to thank many part of it is that when new who have just been our bedrock in terms in terms of keeping the advocates going so I know your man Ian Scott and watch doing the crowd but thank you so much you are the essence of great leadership and we we would not be an advocacy group without those public officials who come out and tirelessly work for our schools I'd like for you to also raise your
003hand so that we can see you here [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] I'm alive and I apologize my book the baby how much all of you just a little bit of logistics for this evening dr. McCormick have the presentations prepared for you and a slideshow backdrop you can follow her on Twitter there's her Twitter feed in and educate Indiana and you can do that this evening as you leave or take pictures or whatsoever make sure to push those out she has a wonderful presentation prepared for us and then she has generously offered to take audience questions so at the conclusion her presentation two of our applicants will be kind of staffing the microphones here we ask you to come up and give your name and and pose your question we will be concluding by 8 p.m.
004the applicants always try to start on time and finish on time my students some of my students are here to thank you for being here and their teachers so shout out to them but they know that I like to start with time and in no time maybe not relate that to let's get to the topic of the evening dr. Jennifer McCormick is our 44 Superintendent of Public Instruction she did not nationally recognized educator and innovator innovative she has served at every level of the k-12 education system she's been a secondary special education and language arts teacher an elementary principal and assistant superintendent and served as superintendent for seven and a half years as Indiana's education system leader dr. McCormick energetic and tireless advocate for children dedicated to improving educational outcomes she's a sought-after speaker so
005we feel very privileged that she is willing to spend an evening with us here this evening and serves as a devoted ambassador for ensuring all stakeholders are working together for student success in Indiana she had served on a number of community boards and make some home in Indianapolis work with her husband Trent who's also a teacher they have one son Caleb who attends West Point Military Academy so let's give a warm welcome [Music] [Applause] [Music] look at eating I swear I'm gonna take that introduction and it's only going to say at this point rebel rouser because that's pretty much what it is at the Statehouse right now so we can really shorten that down but I do appreciate being here this evening it is extremely important you asked questions we are going to give you
006some information but a big part of this is making sure you are informed so a lot of it is just providing you with the data that is necessary to make some decisions and make sure you are communicating to that advocate group I cannot thank you enough it is so impressive to have a parent group it gives out with with your students and your staff gets out ahead of things that really tries to educate a community so thank you for the invite tonight and everything they're doing for the students here in your community for all of you who are extremely busy educators which means everybody right now in the screen.if thank you for being here I know probably credibly busy the spring is so I'm cognizant of your time so thank you for that to the
007retirees setback life's good we'll get you through so but I do appreciate being here some of this for our superintendent going to say a browser that I apologize you have seen this several times parts of it but we're going to start out by just presenting some information around who we are why do I present this and by the way tell people we need to continue to present this if we take our eyes off who we are we take our eyes off good policy good efficiency of our resources and the list goes on that this is an update right now of who Indiana is you get outside of Marion County in this county Hancock County Anthony the donut be able to get outside that area people are sometimes amazed by these numbers especially the ones to
008talk about the languages spoken we have 291 across the state of Indiana with that comes space which happens opportunity and I you argue and I had this conversation with our lawmakers that is an area that we are not celebrating enough and we're not funny enough and there's a interesting balance of that the other one that care that always gets people's attention that I know some of your districts some of you are in here would say I would love to have every reduced rate of 48 percent that is not who we are we are in the 70s or in the 80s so I understand that greater reduce number for some that's the state average that number continues to creep up and this is no surprise to the educators in here why is that happening at a
009time where there's extreme unemployment it's because of the working poor we know we have families that are making $10 an hour they're working multiple jobs we now have the highest number of students living with grandparents who are being raised the highest number of foster children and the highest number of homeless students let that sit in because that is a conversation that were not happy so right now as far as k12 if you ask our educators many of them will tell you that's not a surprise that is not a surprise others depending on where you are in the state are so much shocked by ADA's numbers the demographics across the state obviously look very different from school to school but yet it's really good about making policies of one-size-fits-all so keeping our eye on is extremely
010important to do the other area is the English language learners those are students who speak English as a somewhat second language I will tell you that is a budgetary that everybody's watching we're still getting employees in their area we were promised or not we didn't promise but it was promised through legislation that you wouldn't in a specific at a target that you would get a big bump in your per student pay that hasn't really come to where it needs to be we were looking at potentially a thousand dollars per student we are running about two hundred and eighty two dollars per student so what we did in our budget asked is said you have to double act even come close you have to double it so we went from 17 million to nrx the 34
011million which would still not get us to where we need to be but we doubled that amount unfortunately as you can see the governor too came out and went fifteen million so we're kind of slide back a bit which we were a little bit disappointed to see the house came out with a little bit more and then the city came out of the tad bit more so at least we're going in the right direction but we're still having because many of you all are wanting resources you need licensed people you need the finances to follow it so that he L number we are watching closely that is something that we're just nowhere near where we need to be with funding I will give a shout out to Senator Mishler who is obviously in charge of
012appropriations he is one that is watching this and trying to get some movement we've had a lot of discussion yes for a lot of numbers which you have to appreciate they all know it's underfunded they are very some of them are very concerned that you have to you can't have a few takes more than that to get that budget going but but that is just something that we are watching because that is an area that I foresee over this biennium to still will still be struggling but those numbers continue to creep up this is us so 35 percent of our teachers are leaving between years one and five now I don't know about you but if you've ever had a business you've ever been in a school system there are a lot of superintendents a
013CFO is here to know me you know how difficult it is if you're losing thirty five percent of your teaching staff here's one through five now there are some districts that are like that's not us there are other districts that will tell you when that's the way we are or way under depending on where you are when we survey pays the number one reason the second reason is working conditions so we are having that conversation today was a big rally in the Statehouse I'm not a big brown we're to be honest with you I participated today because of some of the things that are happening in the state level but interesting to watch some of those numbers of some of the conversations that are happening we're going to talk about the budget and we have
01478 thousands of teachers thankfully we have the biggest increase in 2010 in teachers being license the issue is we also have the biggest number of temporary license still being issued so is there a problem yes when I talk to people they still will say well that's your stem area that's your science technology engineering and math yes it is it's also special education it's also else our school counselors it's also finding good administrators we need to list those on now i sat as a superintendent for seven a half years between Anderson University and while State University and back in the day I would have stacks of applicants stacks so it was like getting on you knew you were going to get good people by the time I left before I lost my mind but by the
015time I left that stack that I really really really really been really event and I was sitting between two universities there are districts that still have stacks but there are many more that are either thin stacks so if we're not going to react to that really we're already in trouble that that urgency has passes we're already beyond that it is almost in crisis mode we have got to have good educators if we're going to see results it's not a secret as many if you had your own kids in classrooms or you're in the classroom stove or you have great consider sitting in classrooms you know the power of great educators if we can't figure this out we're in big big trouble but this is also who we are to help share that information the option
016I put up here is something that many of you a familiar it's being discussed in order to help state districts some money on the end of your payment to turn percentage which is a little bit needy but it didn't say I found it to be a good solution for from the governor's office we were pleased to see that and met with this our team could get behind that it's hard to turn down that money back score to a 13 check decision came out for some of our retirees and so if you're a retiree don't shoot the messenger but there are a lot of moving parts with the Turk right now so trying to find solutions but also some other things that are coming out that are a bit problematic with turf budget ax you know
017people if you're watching Twitter right now it's interesting to say people will say me or started up and I'm like I'm just sharing facts and if the facts tarik stir it up there's something wrong with the policies creating facts so here they are we have obviously inflation the general fund k-12 tuition and economic development time those are my numbers those are Indiana's workers those are just actual numbers that's what you need to keep watching your districts are well aware of those numbers but those are just the facts we also look at the governor who are the k-12 budget quick facts when we rolled out our budget in October when I able to date about our budget I was like look I have a lot happened that day but when we rolled it out I said
018you know I'm a little bit worried I'm going to come in love like our budget asks and you might need to get crazy but I wasn't really come in love which would be a great thing to happen but I also know that we were wanting to support all of our educators interestingly we're still a hiatus because given a time when we're hearing a lot of messaging about we want to get more money into the classroom or still see numbers that aren't going to equate to money into the classroom for probably about 25 or 30% of our districts so watching those numbers is extremely important right now again this is where we are landing they are dissecting those numbers the senate number getting out a little bit better per se but when you look at the
019holistic piece the House budget would benefit more districts so there's a lot of wheat hearts don't get hung up on just the percentage increase because there's so many there are so many other pieces of the complexity to it that it doesn't tell the whole story so some of our districts are like oh we're getting there like you know a little bit of a race yeah but have you looked up a very poor waiver have you looked at what's happening with some of these other pieces do you have to look at the whole picture which is what we're trying to keep an eye on but that's where we are right now with bunch of quick facts this is us as a state so this is not a surprise to many of you however I think the
020joys a good reminder so although we serve 1.2 million students and that universe pretty much flat rainy it little bit up a little bit down but pretty much flatlining since 2012 you can see what's happening in two schools so where we have traditional districts going down just a bit traditional schools going down just a bit we have a nine pubs the Baptist referring to this story which we get a lot of our applications for non-public schools now and I will be honest I'm a big person about quality matters so we're going to have school choice we need to have it it's a quality not behind a taco stand and open for the best it needs to be quality matters so that where we're watching and the Turner school number is super fluid right now I
021honestly it is hard for our team to keep up as faxes I'm open there are just as many shutting down but we have an increase of about 52 percent so regardless of their philosophy on choice their whole picture here talks about the philosophy that it should talk to the quality choice our students are very very transient very transient so that one pocket of schools is it getting it done and we're all going to feel at one in one way or another so this is us as far as schools again numbers to watch I mean it really does tell a story we're also working with some universities to talk about capacity because I don't think as a state we're talking about capacity enough when is that time come we have hit a threshold where and that
022was enough how much choice do we need like the tacos thing at school and that's legit so when does that color enough is enough and we've hit that capacity threshold people will talk about the teacher shortage but I also remind them the more schools we are servicing the more chemistry teachers we need the more physics teachers we need because it doesn't work so much that just because of a Yorktown may lose fifty kids I'm not cutting a cow teacher a physics teacher I still need all those and so it doesn't quite work the way people are making it sounds work well if you don't need those teachers anymore and that school needs them aren't we just kind of switching from one location to another no no it just doesn't necessarily work that way so the
023capacity conversation here again what is our threshold when does that need to come into play because we're all raised your teachers and we're just making the conversation horse interesting as well when we talk about access and opportunity for students this plays into that so if you can't find a physics teacher that plays into this if you can't find a Spanish teacher or a Russian teacher or a couch teacher this plays into that so all these conversations about capacity need to take place that I tell you it is not popular it is not a popular conversation but we're watching that as a department we're also watching this so that graduation rate I know there are some schools that are represented tonight that your grad rate is high high high which is a good thing that doesn't
024happen by accident but I can tell you demographics and many of our districts are very very different so I walked into some schools that are not great on the grade graduation rate and I would send my son there to New York minute because of what's happening in that school I've also walked into some schools and on my camp and in a for 15 years and I would not deserve the opportunities difference so it just depends on what is happening in that school without getting hung up too much on letter grades but the graduation rate does tell the story interesting this year legislation we have a court Civil War that was introduced and we came out and said ah now there were some people who loved it I use as a state superintendent at Smith a
025little superintendent the thought of not including graduation rate and anything accountability for high school did not set well with me so people were like what in the Aaron Scott Woods it wasn't if you looked at the language it was not in there now since then they put it in they put it in however it was absent to begin with and many of our schools do a fairly good job with the Graduate now I do believe I was told earlier that it didn't get pulled up so we'll see what happens to 1404 but an accountability piece with the grad rate is just interesting to watch something we're paying attention to are the gaps so we have to accountability systems in Indiana once state once federal the federal the departments and controller on the federal side we
026are watching the subgroups how we break that down because when you lump everybody together it does so that when you start looking at individual subgroups we should be a little bit concerned especially if you look over at the AP column we should that should give us some pause when you throw everything together it becomes a very different story now the state whether we like it or not looking have that debate but the state throws it all together we need to keep it separate on the federal side which I know I was a principal during a time where we did this and it is hard it's hard to move subgroups you know who those subgroups are going to be that are going to be huh you're going to be hung up on our biggest charges I
027wish there was a way to do it without it so cute ative but until that time comes from the federalism from the state and that's where we are but this helps us drive our resources so we have been committed to say what are the areas who are the target subgroups that we need to beef up our resources special education is one PLL is another some of our subgroups by ethnicity would be others so we have really been better to target or support interestingly the department is targeting supports and when we do that it's very very purposeful so it really would make no sense I don't want to use your town as an example because I can meet up my backpack school and it's not really meet up in reality I wouldn't need it as much
028support as a Gary Indiana so our charges get resources to Gary give nor town a little bit of what they need but give resources to where they need to go our plan was made up that way so schools that were comprehensive in need of support like a big big big trouble we have a mechanism comprehensive support plan the state doesn't necessarily like that so some of our lawmakers the power city said so where I had a bunch of fnd schools that I was trying to get money to I was pretty much forced to give it to some C schools that is hard hard harder to defend so in those that schools call and say what in the world why are we not getting any money because they know darn good well that the ski school
029just got a bunch of money it is a hard it's hard to explain so we are watching these number for a lot of reasons but you just have to know conflict in the state which is not good but it's there it's real it's but as a state superintendent we will continue to try to get our resources to our most oppressed it's no different than what you do at the local level that's usually how you control graduation rates if we can pay attention to the third one down traditional public school rate for the first time in a long time here over 91 percent and that is something to be celebrated that is not by accident that is a lot of hard work I thought the high school principals and they're really wasting of their power to
030get kids across the stage I talked to counselors talk to administrators I talk to teachers like we have actually come in we are committed to this classic closely you do whatever you can do because you understand what is disadvantaged the students are at the routine in them across that state that great again should be celebrating we're not probably having as much conversation we should about a year or not that is some really great work Caleta if you look up on some of the items there are some areas that we know about concern I will tell you when you look at virtual schools in virtual charter schools I have argue those are some of our most at-risk students those are either medically fragile they have needs and are great for depositional setting we have students who
031are Olympic athletes and they're just not around we have kids it's like this is their last stop until Allah Street we have students who are a little bit older they come back to examine him interact a little or a little bit why is how many of this attracts knowing those are going to be a little bit down understanding which stuff however if you look at a virtual Charter and traditional of the virtual charter schools that day that kind of sent red flags up to state board and to our legislators and I understand that we probably need to look at we have some anxiety about saying shut down but have eyes on the problem McCain is at loved one of the charter schools in with virtual education so if you think about where we are virtual
032education or credit recovery your credit acceleration your students you have IES or by for whatever reason you have hybrid of learning modality there are a lot of different reasons why students maybe participate in virtual education now carving out the remedial part of it leaving the rest of it in if you hit a certain which many of our districts are gonna hit maybe but many of our districts in theory would hit if you hit a certain threshold those students who have so much percent of their day in virtual education are going to get eighty percent of the funding now the reporting of that I could see people looking at me now like are you crazy lady those are the people who have done the reporting the recording of that would be crazy almost almost impossible to
033follow because that is fluid you can have a child hit that threshold for the first six weeks and pop right back out of it and go back in it because of their circumstance that happens a lot especially with mobility however that's where we are with some of our bills who knows how how to end up in the end but we have had a lot of conversation trying to talk through you have got to leave virtual schools separate commercial education because all of you who are in the technology know we have some tech folks in here you know that makes us go backwards that does not help us go forward Indiana's one of the neck and national leaders of technology whether you love technology or not tech integration with instruction we got out ahead of it
034we've done really good work in that area are we perfect no but we really have done some really solid work if you start saying you can do it but we'll take your money watch what happens you have one person you have a student that's the only person in the middle but less so here are some items that we are watching but just pay attention to some of the conversations about virtual because it's getting quite interesting from both the House and the Senate I've had a lot of people call about this and say are all schools getting $500 extra no so what happened was it was a charter innovation area they came out really other house-senate that I have no idea where exactly cuz today it may be completely modern it could be back who knows
035but right now that would be $500 extra per child is a 77 million dollar expense our charge was we have 77 million dollars you put it in basis tuition support where everyone that was our touch now I'm not sure going to get that done but again I'm not today I don't know where that means that right now mr. senator Mitchell took that out and we'll see what happened in this big a lot of you are confused by AK just because it's a per tile increase but that is not traditional public schools so just something to paint it to do enrollment changes we're watching this information because of the way the formula works the more did you have with more money you have but is not a speak secret Indiana however bottom line with education well
036that you can see where we're at 157 out of 289 districts are defining an enrollment that's a problem then we look at our town it was 37 out of the 92 are declining in population there is a correlation and we're watching it closely so we keep an eye on because not tell you who's going to be in trouble and in two five ten years we can look at that trend and it's not a big secret I can also tell you that they cast people who are they're going to be okay for a while okay it's just the way the formulas set up I know it's meeting with diets being review but this is something that we don't really keeping our eyes on right now this is where we are the population at night will tell
037you having been across this day you are so fortunate to have a green you are so fortunate to have very that means you are increasing you are growth so for everything to be on County population and again on a 1617 day of it to be increasing there are people who would love to be this I guess the south and I find it hot this I would have been a lot of places it doesn't look like this so try to go to Delaware County Madison County does not look like this so kudos to all of you but keep in mind as you are reviewing policy and I know and then the moment you are reviewing it from your lens from our lady's apartment we have to look at it holistically this is not the norm that
038we see but it really does help in any ways for some of our schools in this area so that's a good day and you can also at least one roll windows so there's a lot of different movement going almost student enrollment that we are also paying attention to but again I know some no one wants to see any red or any decline but boy when I do a comparison of slightest slide this is one that you should be appreciative of it really does make a difference the voucher impact so as we go across the state and talk to folks about the voucher program there's a lot of misunderstanding so whether you buy a program or not that is completely your business here's what I want you to see the fiscal impact that is happening and
039I know the superintendent to the CFO's in this room are particular in well aware that this is the impact when I am out and about people ask me there's still confusion on all those kids never to do that are they were in schools they were at schools and it got backed now Mike that was the initial intent that was an initial story but when you start pulling data whether you like the data or not you're just pulling data with no record of you it is a white suburban program that's what it is at this point so if you want the data you want to call it something else so I had but if you look at the data that's what it is so a big 8% of the students who are utilizing and have never
040been in a public school so when I go out for Mike it's a great way to get kids out in failing schools they not leave any school that's not gonna bid at this point you also have 50% using it that all right followed by 21 Hispanic you have 59% you are using it that have an income of over $50,000 so when I hear people saying well that only helps students of the poverty I'm not sure your definition of poverty but when there's 50 90 percent using $50,000 or maybe $50,000 or more that using the program I think it's just good for us to be aware of that information we have an increase in the voucher program I know today you have a lot of people stop by our office that were upset if they do
041something okay I mean that that's outside of my authority but we didn't we didn't share the information eighty thousand dollars for the voucher expansion that you have to remember the other monies that are coming off the top so again some of you may think that is a great program we like it in others like it's very problematic regardless of where you stand is just good to be informed it's good to be informed so as you're looking at programs you can talk intelligently about truly what's happening with that impact referendums crystal clear every day I'm told this probably multiple times a day right now is we're meeting with General Assembly members if they don't have the money they have a mechanism tell them to run a referendum and some of you in here have done it's
042a mere year enough to do it some of your we're all over the place but if when you get upset with their little schools because you're like records indicating your beef is not with your superintendent they have to generate dollars to operate so the referendum game is real it is real interestingly when you look at their to going to be three now as far as to referendum options if things go through the general fund revenue anthem is interesting out of the 66 that have been attempted so out of the 66 that have attempted with declining enrollment to argh sorry 26 of the 66 had declining enrollment so when you talk about the school's most oppressed and who needs the funding and who probably needs to be looking at a referendum those are your tools who
043some of the time aren't even attempting it when we talk to them it's a lot of we know our communities that's never going to go up too much farmland to be retirees we just know our folks that's not going to work so is it an option for everybody I mean that's the conversation we're having aren't we creating the house we have an honest you try to run this trade-off counter you try to run run in Cass County you try to right line up the key area I mean it really does send another picture and another message the construction we're having us with as well I don't tell me over all these percentages aren't impressive because I know we talked about this earlier referendum targets fun time of work for everybody there for the community for
044the students for families for administrators it's a lot of work Indiana's been pretty successful with that then again I'm worried about those are like there's no way I'm trying out cuz there's no black and passing the other piece is going to be interesting is if the safety referendum language stays true that's going to be interesting because I think it's a different dynamic when you come to your community and say I need to build versus I want to keep your kids safer so that's going to be interesting on where that lands I know really and we've had some other districts that have used some of that don't fund referendum for safety purposes but when you can say they're doing it for the purpose of safety period that's that could be a different conversation will be interesting
045to see what happens with that the government structure we share this because it is unique and people will argue this is at night week you make up your own line that I will tell you the cross the nation I've had some possible and you people I've watched your mind so this is the government structure currently Indiana's is designed that our state board is very heavy with government governor appointees now when they agree or disagree that that's what it is it's the governor's board period then you move over to the Department of Education my office the commission of higher ed gwtp which are at the developer so the governor's sent three out of the four classes which I understand I did I gave the position I understand the authority of the power and I understand it
046what's interesting is post-2020 when my position becomes a appointed position this structure is what's not known so we will have the State Board still by the governor you will have a departmental Commission than Department of Education all controlled by one office that is not the norm we have found one other state that plays in that arena and it's not little so this is just interesting to watch the dynamics we have said if you want - is that a state superintendent position to be appointed okay I get it I get it we don't have to debate on whether we agree with it so there's no people voice there so where's the people's voice we say confirm that person so I have a federal level where it goes to the Senate to get confirmation we've said at
047least let the power would be in the people's voice in those confirmations or you look at the State Board which many many states have state boards that are elected so they're regionally elected so that you have some other mechanism for your local voice in this dynamic if not you have a tremendous amount of power in one office it's just what you may be like yeah that's awesome and others maybe like a comma so depending on where you stand on that it's just good for you to have that information so you can think about it because it's just an interesting governance structure in 2020 I have told the people and I'm sure it's going to the press again because we talked about it yesterday today we keep telling people in 2020 shame on us as k12
048educators if we don't start pushing on officials who are running for offices at the local level at the state level at the national level that we 12 conversation needs to be alive and in the forefront we need to start asking some questions but sometimes on the campaign trail which I think I own I would say those education questions and I watched everybody else trying to skirt around I thought but at the time I knew that was my charge and I in fact I mean I knew what I was writing for it'll be interesting but there's no meaning when there's no blender running but there's no one running for that office but the governor are we going to the whoever the people may need are we going to push on those issues are we going to
049give them a pass shame on us that we give them a pass what is the philosophy of education where is your plan who are you running a superintendent who you on point we need to know your philosophy we need to know where you stand if we don't ask I promise you no one's going to tell so we need to start making some really concerted efforts to start being educated and start asking questions it doesn't matter if it's a Republican Democrat independent where I'm going with it I don't care who's running for governor on any side we need to start asking some questions because of this there's so much power in that office this is just an area that we need to pay attention to this is where we are at strategic plans as a state
050we're watching literacy stem science technology engineering math and CTE this is not a seizure its districts a lot of districts are on the same path interestingly the bottom two pretty much aligned to that it stays as a whole where we get a little off and I get a lot of questions needle is that all of you in this room no you don't get a good solid foundational start and literacy it doesn't matter what happens on the other two because it's pretty darn hard I think it comes to high school after high school principals I like the kids reading at fourth-grade level I got to get him through your psyche good luck good luck so we are still made to be meaning that emphasis on literacy in that a to space and time to add some
051really good framers and really good tools I thought early literacy people are trying to go in front of it it is a tough lift and I know many of our districts have focused through multi-tiered systems of support and some of your programming and your staffing and you I have faith in our districts to get this area done but I will tell you this is one area that we get a lot push push back on what would you like well you can't take your eyes off that you can not now the next probably well that you will not so Sten and then that College of career-tech Adam these are just some tools that we have provided for your districts and the reason I show you this is because we have a really really good team with
052the Department and I super proud of them they don't like then our philosophy at the department is more of guidance and support it is not top-down control and we went through that it does not work so R cross P is followers and our followers have to be very dangerous and I will tell you I am really really really impressed by a leadership across our state do we have some work to do absolutely that we have customer really great leaders across our state that are doing some really really great work and that's leadership that the central almost level building level in the classroom just really solid work so some of them may be proud of the SEL I'm going to take a moment for non-educators of people were like unity snack that's that social-emotional learning which
053we all know is extremely important beyond just the academic piece we are struggling to get that push through with school safety it's the oddest thing I've ever been part of so we thought we had it through the house then we had some pushback in the Senate we're going back and forth as far as is it too soft and I'm like really I mean educator to know how much emphasis right now and how important the social emotional learning pieces if we can figure that piece out as any piece would be so much easier that that is a piece that we're all struggling I don't care if you're coming from a district of poverty or a district of wealth we are all struggling with I see how it is expensive so the partnerships were trying to develop
054the staffing we're trying to lose that is an expensive adventurer ask your superintendents they will tell you it is not cheap it is necessary but that SEO piece we are still having conversations on it I don't even know how to react to mine I'm told it's just soft it's too hard to define well you tell that to an estate that has second in the nation on suicide a tennis for high school students like are we going to have the conversation are we going to say too soft so those are the areas that we are still hammering into really see some movement in you've got to address this we have too many volatile parts again a lot going on in stem one piece of care I want to bring your attention to is the cyber course
055interestingly when we open that up I was like we get 10 I'm super excited we start a sign of course for high school we also started a cyber campaign for the district level to help employees I think it is going that's awesome we're now at 60 high schools and that is a very very short amount of time now sends me over yet we thought okay that's great but your team is closed so we're trying to give some of that out but I will tell you that site our piece is moving enough up and thank you to the districts you are saying you will download that opportunity for students but these might not completely make a difference now our Simmons based on our Sun council based on the governor's request came up of the stem way
056we have a lot of people to take that Lily we have a beautiful we had educators we had legislators we have a lot of people to take you for the steps on its side it is solid but we need twenty million dollars to even just start pushing the envelope so we put our twenty million dollar apps right now it's sitting out of million dollars now if you want to push them in the state of Indiana less than a dollar per child is not going to get it done so at a title we're saying no those chocolates got a million to fill over the next ten years and oh by the way and many of them are high-wage high-demand STEM jobs but we're going to give you a dollar less than a dollar per student per
057year in addition to what you get out of your funding it becomes an issue of priorities and I know twenty million dollars won't even scratch the surface I did we have labs they don't have equipment we have labs that are modifies we have curriculum that needs serious work I mean I'm across the state I am look at those things because you have those who are like man this is this could go up against any college the facilities are just amazing and lab equipment the modernization and I walk into some and there's a back at dirt and appeal now my blood is going on because they're like we don't have the funding for the equipment or the clientele it doesn't necessarily take care of some of the equipment and so they've got this non-stop battle with
058trying to fund it so the stem piece is something that we're paying attention to that all of you know the importance of that we have got to fund it I can find the money today I can find it it's just you gotta prioritize so that funding piece is interesting we do have our framework out that I know many of our districts are looking at but we will continue with the stem plan we're just going to struggle with the funding CTE as a state we're doing really really well something to pay attention to 88% of our high school graduates already take at least one career-tech many course now where some of you like you like that career tech ed we talk about you to be like vocational education some of us out depending on them when
059you went through school but that career-tech penny piece is very much more modernized we have districts that work and really learn in this arena but I know it got a lot in a ways this session something to pay into to hook to all this if our educators are getting license renewal with PD PD points so you can either go traditional to a problem or you can get it pointing at night and reading their races so most educators are like I get back now it's reading license it's the language stage you have traffic 15 hours is industry so ready for a kindergarten teacher especially teacher shocked to hear you know CTE welding whatever the case may be we'd have to have those 15 hours so we've already had people call note how are we used to
060scale that like what does that look like I don't know I mean we'll see if the language those throat sticks you will have to have no error we are gearing up to help we're going to have to have some districts help us I met with the South 18 when I brought it up and they looked at me I got ten hats and I like to have a bigger back so when you think about 75,000 teachers who may know that about where is the capacity for that so I know we also had teachers going is that really appropriate for the kindergarten teacher and we can have that things regarding I can get good for us to know what's going on in the workplace we have programs that allow that now but that pgp piece is going
061to be interesting some districts don't have a problem at all there are the other districts or we're really going to have to assist so we're trying to gear up to figure out that's going to go through externships we have put a lot of hard money or state money toward allowing educators to go into that business arena and work for two weeks he exposed for three weeks one week whatever the case may be toward their interest so if they're like I'm a physics teacher and I want to see how Lily works we're going to say okay here's your money to go into Lily for one week two week three week whatever maybe if they agree to take you as an extern so we are doing a lot of that partnering so I'm not going to tell
062you that my concern is scaling it and making sure it's of quality and also listening to the educators on interest I think that's going to be an interesting dynamic a lot of things happening obviously in the State House we talked about most of the something of the importance that's kind of coming in and kind of coming out so if a school principal it's heads up in that virtual bill you saw that many surgeons of code 20 which is when this kids are in your school and they say I'm going to meet you and they'll get home-schooled there's some caveats now I believe you can and cannot count them so that I got the last hour I don't know it's in there now honestly it could be out it's a moving target but just something to
063pay attention to school safety letting me know sixty million dollars a year in Indiana for assessment sixty million dollars of what we say on assessment school safety were making for 14 so will you have school C referendums probably probably that's going to be a mechanism all of us are trying to re-roofing and some of our districts has done a really great job others are trying to figure out the funding a piece of it so the schools a piece they still out there it just even in perspective when we react to this number so that people who are not educators understand the working of the priority on the millions of dollars it's just I think something important to know any questions I found a new trick you guys got thanks for coming tonight actually for me
064I don't really have a question I just want to give you a couple of comments one to confirm what you said earlier about House bill 1404 we ended up today was what they call third reading deadline which basically means if it doesn't pass today it's dead and senator rocks was that the Senate sponsor and did not call it so that bill has cease to exist as a Senate session one other thing I was just going to say just to affirm what dr. McCormick is saying she will be for the first time in Indiana history the last publicly elected Superintendent of Public Instruction and I have been one of those that's been consistently against that for exactly the reasons you described and that is that this was at least one way in which the people of
065our state could have a voice in this process my very first year very first session everything's new and this one came down the pike and sent me to the principal's office a few times where I had conversations with the governor about it and so I remember sitting in his office and he was feeling me out on this thing and I said well here's here's my feeling should more power be in the hands of more people or less people which is exactly the point you're making here I said based on our system of government in our Constitution and power should be in the hands of more people and this is a mechanism by which the people can speak he said well if that's the case then in theory every position in the administration should be elected
066I said yeah you could make that point but they aren't this one still is and that he and then also said that also assumes that people should be informed and who they elect I said exactly right and that's their responsibility to be informed my responsibilities to protect their ability to have that voice at the ballot well as you no that has passed and then based on dr. McCormick's announcement of not running they've moved that date up and so I just want to affirm what you're saying and that that call to all of you to make sure you stay on top of these things because it will be up to you to make sure that you're vetting whoever the potential candidates are for whoever it's going to be the next Superintendent of Public Instruction but this
067one to give you a couple of days there and thank you very much for being here speciated sure it's alright Patel look your name on you mentioned is social-emotional learning and the money that you're spending on that did you define which eg by social-emotional learning and also here in Avon be kind of a successful program called leader in me and too little entry schools that were aware of my son actually 10sec great and it's an amazing program and just wondering if you've had any comments about that was specific without that program in the state yeah I would say we got a large federal grant then it allowed us to select three districts a only one of them we try to get a large midsize small to really have districts try different models that would be
068useful to scale collect data on to say is it good or why and how we make sure that we are in an territory and that even how to measure it is being questioned and so we're looking at our districts who are piloting many many different programs we try to make sure that those were some vetted programs so that we are servicing our kids using multiple mechanisms through our model value multi-tiered systems of support different districts are using different things for the behavioral piece and I know there's debate whether the social learning in the mental health piece which is more diagnostic it has been an interesting conversation but many of our districts in if I go to see very video of the exact definition no but I'm going to tell you there are a lot of
069students through that social-emotional learning piece through the need a lot of assistance so we're trying to develop some of those to learn from achievement each other I don't have all the answers we'll look at working with a lot of the university folks our healthcare professions and them say other agencies that helped us with this what I will say though is we have a lot of schools that tell us we need more school counselors we need more social workers we need more behavioral type of contracts to help us with some of the social emotional pieces so the other piece of it is we're looking at some of the coursework that universities are doing in that arena to be more purposeful about it in the middle school high school arena so we are doing some of that
070work again it is not perfect but there is enough people who are sending signals from us from the local level to say we need assistance in this arena look totally buried in the question I have from your point of view is while I realize the state funding for education is a large piece of that pie and I know it's I know it's intricate and I know that there's something to watch them watch there that's fairly respecting for that step the buildings themselves of the teachers in your opinion is the amount of funding that the state gives to education sufficient or is it possible in Kent and maybe she's not being managed directly or do we need more allocated and you know so it's a great question so a couple of things one we are expensive
071we're we're having a state budget so we do get a lot of attention because we're super expensive I get that I also hear conversations from folks saying I live in X district and they're not fiscally efficient or they're not fiscally responsible or they're not transparent so I've heard all that - I've also seen districts that are doing a magnificent job with balancing that being very fiscally prudent but making sure that you are partnering that a lot of great works going on in that in that arena so you've seen it kind of all over the place here's what I will tell you when you start comparing at the national level when we are dead last 50 about a 50 on the amount of teacher increase in pay from 2002 to now were dead last you have
072to have a conversation is it enough I would argue it's not enough I know it is extremely expensive to educate a child and I know that one does any way to every single child because there are a lot of different needs but that amount of money has become problematic with inflation with some of our programs going through with the way our formula works there are a lot of layers to it but can we get better at the physical piece we always have room for improvement we always have a front ruin but I would say the majority of our districts are doing a really good job with the resources they have but they it's at that point where we have got to invest more in that Quito arena we have to a lot of our do
073you got attack in the pre-k area that were woefully under spending in that dream a piece many of our districts are doing a great job but we still have counties that are void of quality programs that is going to catch up with us it's already caught up with us so it's never enough there's no and people say what is that dollar amount it really want depends on district but it also it's just when you start looking nationally and making those comparisons we are we're not what we need to be doctor buds supertunia [Applause] [Music] couple of times if you hit on obviously we are over happy but we need not forget that in 2007 we as voters made the conscious decision in two consecutive years to put in place at that same time our General
074Assembly crops to feed upon our schools inflation and our property taxes have been capped so the assumption that 50% is high is true however it is a result of the state saying we're going to take this burden off little taxpayers and then put a backlog in this referendum which we are today that being said there have been many opportunities in many discussions this session on how to fix the teacher page all of that falls flat because it's a terribly complex issue is one that is part of globally the exclusive representation competition obviously so it's a complex question I appreciate the question and it can be quite frustrating every binder the governor came out and saying he's gonna develop a committee and he's gonna study this the concern came because there was really no educator on
075the committee except for on the committee that was for informing purposes only so there was a superintendent I believe in maybe a teacher a CFO sorry but there's a committee being formed to help study that we've also said now that I am looking at the lens of the state level we have provided some suggestions for cost savings so a lot of us have do a lot of good cost sharing right now a lot of us are really good at purchasing right now at the local level that ia would argue there are some more cost savings to that there are also programs some shifts that are being built at the state level but there is no intention to sell that shift and innovations for that so where I'm like we don't need that where we have
076it that's five million dollars we may not have the cataract but we have a Volkswagen and it's running why are why are we not looking at all those pieces and putting it toward that fun ways to get dollars back into the classroom there are some other ways to look at some things differently as far as there are some ideas being floated that just because we weren't asked to be part of that committee the department was carved out of that we're not going to be quiet we will develop our own committee and there's some folks in here that are on that to generate some ideas to say what are we going to take to that committee we just can't sit back and be quiet we have to look at the big picture but it goes wrong
077anything from purchasing tax generation there are just a lot of pieces to it so there's no easy answer to that you also are sitting on a huge surplus and I know people who are consistent conservative fiscally are like leaving a lovely no love there are other people like spend that sector now so you've got both sides of that coming into state level but that's another piece of this Indiana is very heavy on some of their tax forgiveness tips districts are getting very interesting for some of our districts so there are a lot of pieces to it that we are looking at there's no one answer to this but it's going to take money to operate you cannot operate expensive schools without putting toward the money it has to have to operate there just have to
078look at it through a lot of lenses there's no point answer but I know there are a lot of people trying to look at it for this biennium we're out of time I mean that's the reality of it here's what's frustrating there were a lot of promises made a lot of promises made out of the gate for instance the 85/15 I listened to state leadership saying and we do this your teachers are going to get a 5% increase you know that was that was a big false promise no way there is no way that's when you weight into a fighter separates and if you're in a district where you can get one you should celebrate and stay put for a while that is not the norm but to come out I go across the state
079and teachers are now telling me but I read the article and there's a 5% increase coming that is a false promise and what that's going to create is promise at the bargaining table so we have a superintendent a CFO going not really and the way that I read the article based on the news clip I'm watching social media and they said it would equate to a 5% raise then you have local infighting versus your energy should be spent at the state level but those are the kind of thing is going through now we did appreciate the turf option buying down that turf get that percentage down for our districts that is a good solution and we went to the governor's office it's a good solution I mean that was a good thing there were other
080parts of it that we're not super happy with but those are the type of conversations you have to have but I don't agree with is carving people out of that conversation that is not healthy for a state you got a lot of smart people who have been in school finance for a long time there's some really really good ideas but there hasn't been time but you start asking them they're like you could look at this without way and you could look at this you can look back you could mean they just are traveling on things that make real the common common sense but you have to have that conversation so we are looking at that super complex issue there no easy solution but for this biennium that ship is safe I mean there that we
081are out of time with that budget dr. McCormick thanks for being here and thank you for being a rebel rouser I appreciate appreciate you standing up for our teachers and our kids well you said I believe you said sixty million dollars we are spending on assessments can you talk a little bit about how we get a handle on these assessments and we do what's right for the kids so some of that is a necessity out of the federal requirement not all of it now interestingly there are people who are hearing from the feds he created do this do that good luck admit through so it looks good in an article it looks good for the one districts which are the state he tries it and they're back to square one so careful what you read
082and read out that the lintons it's more accurate so that testing piece a lot of that comes from the federal government the requirement now we can say is to say we don't want to do that any longer out of our nine million dollar budget 1 million is federal money so we're willing to forget 1 million dollars we can say hasta to the testing which is interesting we've also approached some of our state leaders and say we have a solution here's how we can save money so we're throwing all kinds of solutions out for instance I read it would not take a huge lift to turn with the two questions in I learned three to do the exact same thing and give you some good data that would be a big cost savings time savings prep
083savings the list goes on for third grade but you have to have an appetite to change that so until that happens we will continue to spend an enormous amount of money on testing I would also argue although there are parts of grad pathway that I think people can get behind we are already getting calls going who's funding that tag got it I don't have the money to fund it so I have districts that are saying some of these credential tests are extremely expensive and we've not given it because X Y Z II although we do have the money we would put toward it but who's going to ensure access to different pathways that students can now take to graduate and some of them are assessments some are free some are just pricey and so who's
084going to pick that that love so when we win it with our numbers that suddenly that sixty million dollars is it going to get us there because some of our districts do not have the families that they can't say will take the SAT we'll take a CT we'll take it a couple times and if that doesn't work I'm gonna pay for the welding certification good for you and that your district but that is not the norm so we are trying to figure out what that looks like what do we need to do but my fear is that expensive testing is continuing to climb or like I said already any calls we're saying how is this going to work and it's not what they're saying we don't want to do it it's how is it going
085to actually work and so the fiscal piece that we were saying from the beginning pump the brakes innocent to figure out the physical piece because we knew the biennium was coming up no not going to pump the brakes here we are today and we have about 1% of our schools use it so I think that that I don't think it will pick up especially with some ice I stepped in issues that will pick up but I do not receive a cost of assessment going down anytime soon I also don't see the time going down that was our low light and at that time you never get the tight down that mr. got pathways for our high school kids I'm assuming that's going to go up I'm already hearing a lot of stories about a lot
086of testing so we'll see what that takes us that's recording thank you so much for coming to talk with us I would like to talk more about teacher compensation but unfortunately it raises my blood pressure before in Phoenix I think I think that was on my radar until just recently I come in to go to the National School Board Association meeting the convention in Philadelphia where there was a lot of talk in some of very dense population states about the effect of the 2020 census accuracy on educational funding unfortunately there are a lot of illegal as we can see it reflected in the PLL that also homeless population that will have profound impact if not counted in the funding for school corporations that enjoy a great deal of those types of populations on Indiana School
087Board Association is really working hard in the next 12 months because the census will hit us in 12 months to assist with getting more accuracy and reflected so that every student counts and the funding can follow those students I would just appeal to you and then ideally to partner with us along with other collaborative partnerships in order to make sure that we do everything possible for educational funding to make the census of Factory is are there any things that your office is presently doing to ensure that yes and I appreciate that question our team depending on the area they serve we've been on a DC quite a bit having conversations about just this will it in Indiana you bet so the debris is the decor is the question so yes given some of our counts
088are very dependent upon that data and if that data is skewed in a negative manner we're gonna feel it we're gonna feel it again it's 1 billion dollars so we are watching that issue we've been having conversations it's interesting I'm just to be honest regardless of your political affiliation you have to have a willingness to have that conversation on the impact is going to have and that risk versus reward of what's happening and there are some folks at the federal level that when those numbers suppress and that does not help us and so we are having those conversations it's just odd because of the situation that that's in but but we are aware of that I know a lot of people we have some time not a ton of time but it will impact our
089schools so we have teams that go out in different areas trying to just bring back information talking about the situation trying to educate ourselves and others and so it's been quite interesting that we're worried yeah she's not a plant that is Holley software our communications director so she reads all our communication that goes out I appreciate the hobby yes so we're one of two states that has an SEO person who is specifically obligated to that work we are watching a lot of the other states so hopefully not to reinvent the wheel but we are watching a lot of programs for watching a lot of the results we're watching some of the assessments that are connected to that area so we're trying to get a good handle on what's out there what is worked what is
090that doing across the board to some of the data putting attention to discipline and it goes on so our team is working on that again we're are in really early stages and we rely a lot on outside partners so we're doing a lot of partnering in that area to try to move that work it's not perfect I'm not going to stand up here and say it's perfect but we're hearing about over there from our schools that they need a lot of assistance we've had people call about curriculums we've had people call about assessment pieces the privacy tied to that or having just a lot of interesting conversations and that was space this is school safety conversation regarding shared data that's getting a lot of noise in Indiana because Indiana we really love our privacy I'm
091not saying I don't love money too however when you're trying to share some of that data that's playing into some of that maybe that's across agency that's linked to one individual that that could get a little dicey so we're trying to work it's just can't be the department coming up with some of these solutions we're trying to learn with a mole to talk to to state level health care and the list goes on so it's complex again we're not exactly where we need to be but we are looking at everything that we can potentially look at if you have anybody in this room has information to share or some expertise in that area we are always willing to to listen and take feedback more astonishing and I'm a Mormon [Music] so three question how do
092you wish that conversation what makes sure people are educated in your district on that number people who push back on that say well yeah that districts still spend a lot more out of their operation or education fund yes they do but they're also spending more money on an assessment as well so that argument doesn't wipe out the other so I understand that piece of it but districts are still spending money out of their operation and education fund for both of those items so it's extremely expensive districts have done a really good job of trying to balance that school safety piece it is expensive so there are some districts that have total East Apartments somehow my necks are others have multiple SRO some don't have any suddenly have a heavy in school counselors others are like
093one school counselor I have social workers I mean it's all over the place school safety is expensive and it depends a lot on the need and community and there's just a lot of pieces to it so making sure people are aware of some of those numbers I just don't want you to feel like that's the only money going to school safety is like I said schools are putting a great deal there their funds that are current accessible ones toward school safety and we'll continue to do that with that 14 million interestingly that stayed from the special session and now given where we are more people will be eligible for that money so more density so private schools more charter schools will be so before the maid let's say we're under smells around number we had
094a hundred schools that were eligible to receive that grant you now still probably have a hundred schools that are eligible and run a number up to receive that grant but your potential applicants has sort so you have more people needing the money and less money so that's gonna bring an interesting dynamic to or some of our districts and somewhere in here say you rely on that money or half of our SRO or drug dogs or whatever the case may be ER acts our bus cameras you name it now you're like now what now what would it do because you've been relying on that money I know I heard from a lot of people those grants are moving slow the grants that come that's another issue so if you apply for a grant and you're expecting
095the grant and it's super slowly we're trying to be a good partner that that's not our office I will take units for a lot of things not that one and but they'll try to be a good partner on trying to help get those out because I know some schools are quite frustrated with the pace of that money is going out we're trying really hard to to help with that it is like Chris is right in my eyes I know that from downtown and a place where they're not close to the public schools and things like that it'd be really easy not to people they aware of the challenges facing teachers challenges facing the students and all of this do you know what it is that our legislators are doing to stay closely in touch with
096the needs of our teachers in the k-12 schools it's a great question we have some legislators that attend events and listen and make comments and question we have some that are not going to go to their school and everything in between so you need to Iowa's still challenge our legislators invite them into your schools I've always had our lawmakers into our school invite them in educate them get them in front of teachers that it shouldn't be a situation that's hostile I've seen that go back that's not the best way to handle that if you bring a legislator in you need to make sure that it's a professional conversation so there are different ways that handle that but it's all over the place we've had something that you know will attend those teacher meetings that go
097to staff these but to our schools are very involved they go to events in others you just really have to push and if you can't get them to come in if they're not involved if they're not interested that's where it becomes I don't stop the emails you don't stop the phone calls you don't stop the testimonies on the floor you still have to be a voice you know we get it we are who we are and we get what we get by who we move it into office and I am a firm believer usual people including myself and you hold us accountable I am your voice I am an extension of the public education focus in Indiana so you need to make sure you're holding people accountable you need to do a deep dive into
098asking questions ask them that goes back to the 20/20 you ask them whatever what is your philosophy in public education we'll miss a lot of you were in their schools that you represent when have you talked to your superintendent what did you talk to your school business official when did you talk to teachers wouldn't you talk to community folks we need to start ask the better questions we let them would help they looked and then they're in office and were like oh it's not going so well really so that's on us to be better voters more educated and also hold people accountable we have to do that it's a great question Dunsparce a wonder we rely on the kids I want to thank you for your time today and I also wanted to recognize senator
099crane for being here but also representative Thompson representives der waals you have been very professional and very willing to meet with us as a group hear our concerns and respond to them in a very tiny ways I wanted to recognize them for that as well I have someone who we worked with the local group trying to get a referendum passed and so glad that it did and I see a 1.5 million dollar hit that we're taking because of the voucher program and with the information you shared today as well as some that I've learned prior really changed my view about the purpose of the voucher program school choice because I the impression is many are that it was that wait for people to escape failing school but and it's not seem to be that way
100that being said there seems to be quite a bit of momentum around without your program and I don't believe it's going to be reversed but I'm curious if you have any kind of thoughts about how a group of parent advocates and others might work to at least slow down on that drain or get a point where perhaps the impact is capped so it doesn't continually eat away so again we are who we look for that you have to educate people you have to get the information out social media is a beautiful thing facts are stubborn so people are upset because you're sharing the fact that your school system loses that amount of money that's a result of a policy that's not that you're making it up you're not even telling them what to think about
101it it's just you are sharing information people are this you have busy lives things get moving and you are trusting the system will work as school people we are pretty resilient so we're like in or not gonna like that what we're gonna figure it out like at work at some point we have to stop that at some point we have to start asking questions but our chart is trying to educate our communities and it is tough we have one of the lowest states voting percentages across the nation our youth voting percentage is with the only state thirty-six states and we were like number twenty-nine so that's not great so there are a lot of pieces to that in addition to educating families and community members we have to encourage people to voice voices through vote
102and so there are a lot of pieces to it which is big pieces sedative to deal with but I would just encourage you to share that information and again I think there are a lot of ways to do that but we have out the data I will give a shout out to dr. downs in Allen County he's done an extensive amount of work he knows it inside now and he will be happy to come to any community that asks him for information he's done presentations for General Assembly he's given presentations to communities it's just to educate folks on how those programs actually work and then you make up your own mind whether you like it or you don't like it it's a matter of staying educated but we have all that information that's how you
103get it out how do you share in a way people can understand it perfect thank you for coming we're very very grateful the mission of the oral advocates that started 5 years ago was to learn communicate and advocate and I know who have experience that they do so in a manner that is very civil and very respectful we appreciate that listening to you speak tonight reminds me of just prior to your election when you were gracious enough to come to Hendricks County to meet with the Henderson County superintendents and I'll never forget did not you are not lusting after this job but you are not dying to be in this elected position and yet you ran you got elected and you have served remarkably well and on behalf of all of us I just want
104to say we are so glad that you are our state superintendent and that you are advocating for our children and for our teachers and for all Hoosiers and that we're going to continue until 2020 so thank you very much [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] yeah I tried to make my strong I'll be the short straw but it didn't work out no it was really a moment of service and I would encourage you some of you folks who are in here we need new people to run for office we need them to get your like create X interface for a lady no we need people to do it we need the good people to run for office look what's happening across the nation with educators who are running for office with smart business folks
105who are running for office who people who serve in different capacities running for office we need people to run it is super hard and it is not super fun but we need good people so if anyone out there has a thing to do something about that we're happy to help as some of it figured out I appreciate all of you being here I know you're busy thank you a lot thank you other districts who took the time to come out Thank You community members if you need something please contact our department we do not have all the answers it is not a pride issue for us let us know how we can get better so we can continue to search the case again thank you for having us we appreciate it [Music] [Applause] [Music] amazing
106so where do we go from here let's take this energy and keep it up so lowly we make several shameless plugs to the Lord advocates I want to thank all of them for hosting this event for our administration's or facilities promise or helping us with the technology thank you you to all of you for taking time out educated on this topic so check us out for oral advocates on Facebook another shameless plug twitter our handle is at a lot advocates you have dr. performance information up there as well don't let up continue those emails interview handwritten letters continuing conversations talk to a small group of us prior to her speaking in front of all of us was don't just limit your communication to our representative and our senator reach out to the Ways and Means
107Committee Education Committee and I know that's intimidating because I know for us a lot of us attention a lot of quick catch-up on governments that govern human lives our state site actually is really helpful you know what it's a great PowerPoint and don't let that intimidate you they're very approachable and they get personal let them know how it affects your family little you they're not going to attack you they're easy especially what you call that fountain tip they're easy to talk to do as well so again thank you everyone dr. McCormick you have flowers please take them yeah [Applause] [Music]